#assassination

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vagrant brook
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full raid buffs in dslice definitely matters

spice spire
vagrant brook
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but overall it doesn't matter cause like 10 builds sim the same

balmy condor
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okay liar

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there's way more than 10 you rat

coral ibex
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i love having to do 6 dungeons to upgrade one piece of vault gear on a tuesday BatChesting

vagrant brook
spice spire
coral ibex
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i know you're going for a different meme but when i see your name all i think of is the sufjan stevens album come on and feel the illinoise

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and thats tough

fluid dagger
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shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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champ track ring gg!

jaunty quarry
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hey guys is there a way to handle the tea manualy and not letting it gets used auto ?

fluid dagger
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transcend time to 3 weeks ago

spice spire
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And you’ll always do it manually

jaunty quarry
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i see 😄 ty

cyan surge
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What's the preferred balance for mercurial egg?

coral ibex
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under 20 stacks

hollow river
thorn crater
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ok so do we run sanguine blades or not?

coral ibex
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if you want to

spice spire
coral ibex
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whispyr has been typing for like 4 minutes now, the cook is legendary

solid venture
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this is probably a very stupid question but with 2x supercharger + FI talents , is our gameplay changing in any way ?

split flame
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ayneone know what's this rupture/garrote tracker?

normal mist
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Its his cat

coral ibex
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what are the applications of this action

coral ibex
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i'm a visual learner

molten echo
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
hollow river
thorn crater
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does anyone hve premium raidbots?

strange python
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If a good rogue assa with high rio can Dm me for some question , would be amazing

coral ibex
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just ask in this channel

honest needle
strange python
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Ok i have issue with rogue assa on mono, dont know how to manage well my resources, and with auto consume of tea its painfull. also their is a min haste required to manage well phase between cds ? i feel like a fucking turtle

normal mist
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you don't need a HIGH rio rogue to answer that

late ravine
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Whispyr can answer you on that then

normal mist
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No, you don't need specific % haste for that

late ravine
strange python
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someone experimented i mean

normal mist
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spam less in ST

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play for envenom uptime

thorn crater
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1,2% is minimal or?

strange python
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but play for envenom uptime is painfull too .. maybe im rly bad but ..

thorn crater
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i thought we would want TTK for the boss dmg maximization

coral ibex
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bro wants to press buttons

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should reroll outlaw

strange python
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Nah , i accept this slowing phase its ok

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but maybe some tips to do it properly

late ravine
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!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
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Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

  • For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
  • For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

normal mist
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the only tip

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in ST

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is to NOT spam mutilate

coral ibex
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the tip is to not spam your energy away

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haste won't change anything

honest needle
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can some 1 take a look at my sim

balmy condor
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lets count m+ builds:

  1. 2 subt 1 leth
  2. wat
  3. 1 subt 2 leth
  4. 2 leth 1 super
  5. 1 leth 2 super
  6. forced induction

then on the spec tree you got:

  • hybrid
  • sanguine/sd
  • ma/sd
  • ttk, no sd
  • ma/sanguine/ttk, no sbs
  • sanguine/ttk, no sd
  • ma/ttk, no sd
  • ma/ttk no iw
  • sang/ma no iw
  • ma/sang no iw
  • cleave
  • ma
  • sang
  • ttk no arterial
  • ttb over bs
  • dashing over arterial
  • ma/ttk no iw
  • sang/ma no iw
  • ma/sang no iw
  • bleed
  • sbs no ap
  • ap no sbs
  • ttk no sbs
  • ap/lws no sbs
  • ap no sd
  • lws no sd
  • ttk no iw/sd
  • Weird shit we ain't gotta talk about
  • 1/2/2r9
  • 1/2/2r9 ttk
  • 2/2/1r9
  • 2/2/2r9 no kb
  • 2/2/1r9 ap

Fatebound:

  • 2 subt no tea
  • 1 subt no tea
  • dd no cb
  • wat no tea
  • all the same spec trees

so that gives us 6 * (10 + 8 + 7 + 5) = 6 * 30 = 180 deathstalker builds, follow the blood would make those 360, and 4 * 30 = 120 fatebound builds, so without swapping improved ambush/tight spender you're looking at 300-480 viable and playable builds for assa currently depending on how you count or spin it

runic hinge
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Okay but I need you to tell me which does the most damage rn with my gear and also any upgrades I could possibly get

solid venture
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holy yapperoni

balmy condor
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mfers be arguing about oh we play ttk?

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oh we play ma?

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shut the fuck up

spice spire
runic hinge
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Play whatever you want and sounds cool tbh

golden loom
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Pick some talents and press some buttons

thorn crater
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alright so TTK and MA are considered strong for ST right?

balmy condor
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yes

thorn crater
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to help with the low ST in m+

balmy condor
coral ibex
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ma/sang no iw
sang/ma no iw

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WHAT

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bro is just typing

balmy condor
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hybrid or cleave

coral ibex
balmy condor
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we do this chipotle style you dense brick

thorn crater
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can also skip ironwire for secon shiv Kappa

glacial crypt
balmy condor
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what protein you want

shy pecan
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LOL

coral ibex
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double cockwool

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please

balmy condor
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name a spec tree from the 1-6 list

coral ibex
balmy condor
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I don't

coral ibex
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yea lemme get uhhhhh

balmy condor
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the mental is about to shatter again

novel star
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get well soon man

coral ibex
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1 leth 2 subt with MA and SBS and no SD

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i said no fuckin SD

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toasted

novel star
shy pecan
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He was forced to explain sin

amber brook
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I can get mythic tier set without killing the mythic boss?

gloomy heart
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Is cheat death worse than elusiveness?

balmy condor
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sorry you said sbs

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hybrid or bleed

coral ibex
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i'm thinking hybrid

novel star
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bleed with no SD

novel star
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is this guy stupid just make the burrito man ICANT

normal mist
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welcome to M+

balmy condor
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that's just this

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alternatively

coral ibex
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yea that's my M+ build kekw

balmy condor
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you could put that no sd into your sang

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but you didn't tell me

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where to put that point

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so

coral ibex
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sometimes you gotta let the sandwich artist roam free

balmy condor
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NEXT IN LINE PLEASE

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KEEP IT MOVIN

thorn crater
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alright

balmy condor
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KNOW YOUR ORDER WHEN YOU GET TO THE COUNTER

coral ibex
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wait i wanted this fatebound

floral ore
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is no SD much of a loss overall?

coral ibex
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can i speak to a manager

high epoch
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Wait we can order here?

glacial crypt
shy pecan
balmy condor
thorn crater
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wat into both sanguine and MA, skip SBS, take what else is best (TTK?, SD?)

coral ibex
novel star
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that’s not a very clear order

balmy condor
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now you gotta pick where those 2 points go

spice spire
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Oh this is a menty b boys

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It’s joever

thorn crater
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ye apparently for me IP is a 20k dps increase over TTK

balmy condor
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aight IP sauce

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and what cheese

thorn crater
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and SD

balmy condor
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aight there ya go

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NEXT IN LINE

high epoch
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Can I take that to go?

west crown
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anyone top 100 on their realm can give me an idea of what it takes?

thorn crater
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that looks mental though no?

west crown
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m+

marble hemlock
novel star
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bread?

vast loom
coral ibex
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what do you wanna know

novel star
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i don’t want anything on it

balmy condor
west crown
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just want an io estimate for top 100 on realms

ocean ore
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hey all!

shy pecan
marble hemlock
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i still thjink

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playing tea and vigor when youre capped on energy in aoe

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is kinda cringe

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if you could play supercharger with FI insdtead

thorn crater
balmy condor
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that isn't one of the options I listed seli

coral ibex
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fugma i need more io

ocean ore
marble hemlock
balmy condor
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class tree is it's own thing

marble hemlock
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i do wonder hgow much worse that is

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but im too busy to check myself

vast loom
marble hemlock
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someone @ me

late ravine
coral ibex
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or do you mean all class io

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overall top 100 io for my realm cluster is 2630

river nebula
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yo is there a known bug on NW with the add ?

west crown
shy pecan
west crown
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or class

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just cant find it on raider io

thorn crater
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sorry can someone explain forced induction to me? i do not understand the wording

river nebula
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I kill it, have about 50% hp left then I get insta melee to death

thorn crater
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what does it mean by bonus granted

balmy condor
# ember mural

it's okay seli said drop tea for forced induction and just added another uh...... 70 builds

balmy condor
thorn crater
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oh its that simple?

balmy condor
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yes

thorn crater
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does that add to envenom/rupture timers?

balmy condor
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yes

coral ibex
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this section

west crown
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ok ignore me

vivid mulch
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Why does it show his poison dmg but not mine?

west crown
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didnt know you could click realm

thorn crater
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so i assume lethality is a ogner now

vivid mulch
thorn crater
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for ST

balmy condor
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lethality is fine

thorn crater
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just the other one better?

balmy condor
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depending on the person sure

chilly lichen
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!guide

spice spire
thorn crater
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tea and vigor 3,2% higher than FI

vivid mulch
thorn crater
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for me ofc

balmy condor
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yeah

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that's reasonable

spice spire
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Are we 100000% sure

coral ibex
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well yea you'd be cooked to not take vigor and tea

vivid mulch
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Otherwise i would've seen the "no poison" on envenom hits

spice spire
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Because that list says you didn’t

high epoch
vivid mulch
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i was expecting to get #1

coral ibex
# vivid mulch

pull the log and show your deadly poison debuff being applied

shy pecan
coral ibex
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bc details thinks you had no poison applied

coral ibex
shy pecan
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Wouldn’t be high though

balmy condor
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wound poison HM

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would be the only thing doing dogshit enough damage

vivid mulch
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I always know when i forget to apply poison's cos the red text in the middle from envenom says it

coral ibex
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idk what red text you're talking about tbh

shy pecan
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Pull up your auras.

balmy condor
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I mean it's just

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no logs no evidence

spice spire
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Yeah

coral ibex
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yea i'm sending envenoms without poisons and no red text is popping up saying poisons missing

balmy condor
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can't say shit about what happened without logs

coral ibex
coral ibex
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really really

vivid mulch
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I mean i guess i didn't have em on then

coral ibex
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maybe i have that turned off

vivid mulch
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Text ususally pops up

balmy condor
vivid mulch
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"no amplified poison on"

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for envenom

coral ibex
balmy condor
torpid linden
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I have reach my 40th run of grim batol

high epoch
torpid linden
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the despair has set in

coral ibex
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damn imagine losing the 50/50 40 times in a row...

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hope you're in outlaw loot spec for a smaller loot pool

cerulean nest
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are people frfr running double supercharger and the thing under it in raid?

coral ibex
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fr fr, on god, no cap

cerulean nest
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say less

strange python
drifting cloud
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well do you want to loot a dagger?

fickle jasper
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whats the point of subterfuge over supercharger? i tried both but i didnt see the use case can someone explain please

pliant silo
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Subterfuge extends effects like IW, IC, MA

thorn crater
pliant silo
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So you can vanish for crit during kingsbane

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From master assassin

grave sonnet
pliant silo
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Sim them on something else, cleave etc

fickle jasper
pliant silo
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If they’re that close on ST probably interchangeable

unreal epoch
pliant silo
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Subterfuge gives extra time to spread bleeds and silence everything, adjust to slightly-late chain pulled packs, etc

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Hard to quantify value

fickle jasper
novel star
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i like spyglass because the item has a cool icon

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:)

solar lynx
pliant silo
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Casualaddict and anyone else 15+ can do whatever they want and their coordinated pulls are different from our avg gameplay

coral ibex
fickle jasper
# solar lynx hate me

ive done 31 runs of gb in the past 3 days no agility trinket yet never dropped neither to me nor my mates i feel like the last bit of my will to live is slowly leaving my body

inland fox
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oh so lethality's out and we goin forced induction on DS builds noice

fickle jasper
unreal epoch
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after opener, how many targets should we keep rupture on in M+?

novel star
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Sadge dogpiss vault every time

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neck angle unfortunately

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goodbye hero sikran

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fuck my healers mana

torpid linden
worldly sail
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in outlaw lootspec you get the outlaw coded trinket that makes your KB 15% more likely to be parried

unreal epoch
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i been missin out

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tysm

solar lynx
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is it worth spamming bleeds on everything in opener beyond 5+

tropic cedar
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no

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get Caustic rolling

plain basin
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
solar lynx
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so legit just 5

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always

tropic cedar
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yes

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or you can do 6 if you want to min-max by swapping targets as you bleed, but thats cancer

solar lynx
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ya fuck that

cerulean nest
grave sonnet
torpid linden
old hedge
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At how many targets does Fan of Knives generate more than 1cp?

worldly sail
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forced induction sims better for me so i run it in raid Surebud

tropic cedar
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i think double supercharger became marginally better when they fixed KB double dipping from Lethality?

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not 100% tho

solar lynx
tropic cedar
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3+ for fan, 2+ for CT iirc

novel star
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fan of knives cp generation is not based on targets hit

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it just generates 1 + 1 for each crit

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you can hit 270228937562 targets

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and get no crits because of astronomically bad luck

worldly sail
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its always funny when that happens

novel star
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and it will generate 1 cp

thorn crater
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we skip AP?

balmy condor
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sure

thorn crater
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everything is so close

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its so frustrating

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u cna literally run anything

lavish geyser
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how much easier do keys get when I go from like 621 to 630 ilvl?

balmy condor
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correct

old hedge
thorn crater
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also kind of ironic that u drop bleed talents for AP when it buffs bleed dmg

novel star
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ignoring sims to prioritize crit items etc is not worth

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you just hold an L sometimes

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gamesucks

lethal turtle
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gaming

thorn crater
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crystal?

thorn crater
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whats the ring like dps wise?

old halo
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1.2 Mill club

thorn crater
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half a %?

lethal turtle
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I am m+ pusher on this toon. snap crystal

steel sable
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so in the M+ build the combo point generator is FoK?

coral ibex
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fok on 2+ targets

steel sable
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ok so on ST its still mut

cobalt sphinx
lavish geyser
solar lynx
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feint feint feint

slim pebble
balmy condor
runic hinge
lavish geyser
silk bane
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E

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!

runic hinge
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Being hard locked cookie cutter is less fun

silk bane
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N

coral ibex
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its true, you could randomly assign talents and probably be within like 8% of the "bis" talents

balmy condor
solar lynx
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gratz

runic hinge
outer marsh
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if i have a crafted weapon and a hero weapon, is it better to spend crests to upgrade gear or save up 90 to craft another weapon? is this something i can sim easily?

coral ibex
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do not craft an offhand

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offhand is a tiny upgrade

lethal turtle
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wouldnt even worry about the OH. can also just ebug it with recraft to get to 626

coral ibex
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yes just recraft your 636 so you get a free upgrade to 636 in both slots

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if you already crafted 2 pieces, probably just save crests for myth track items

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i crafted 3 pieces bc didn't anticipate mythic raid at the start of the season

timber pawn
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Is it strange that a 626 Quickwick Candlestick is outsimming a 626 Sikrans Aresenal for me. A B tier trinket losing to a D tier?

balmy condor
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fuck the tier list bro

wispy epoch
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How many 12s and 13s is that

wispy epoch
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that's why i use transmitter

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🙂

woven shore
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wait wait wait

novel star
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to my knowledge tier list and bis list are both things the guide websites force their writers to make

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and not stuff writers actually want on the guide

woven shore
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double vanish now for mythic + ?

wispy epoch
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for 10s, idk about high keys...

woven shore
novel star
balmy condor
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bro is living under a rock

woven shore
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yea

timber pawn
dull prism
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how can u even do double vanish on m+

woven shore
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didnt play for like a week

balmy condor
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patrick star lookin mfer

woven shore
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was in prague with my girl

novel star
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wdym

wispy epoch
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giving up empowered shiv and shit

woven shore
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LOL

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didnt see

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xD

wispy epoch
balmy condor
viscid spear
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mmmm, jewelry

jaunty warren
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So is there a go fund me or kickstarter for Whispyr mental care that we can contribute to or what ….

indigo meadow
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is there anything special i need to do for ovinax trinket? i got a myth one in my vault but reading it, it seems pretty weird to use

wispy epoch
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i listened to your 34 minute video!!!

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i trusted you!!!

balmy condor
vast patio
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Is nelf our best race or is it dwarf?

Leaning nelf just for looks tbh. Maybe dragon for swag.

cinder quartz
wispy epoch
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okay this is how i figure out what i should take:

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"which one am i less likely to fuck up"

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and the answer is sanguine blades, honestly

balmy condor
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how is that possible

cinder quartz
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whichever requires fewer button presses and timings is better

wispy epoch
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panic vanishing to live, panic vanishing to interrupt/stop

balmy condor
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whatever man

cinder quartz
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its why i will never stan master assassin

novel star
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i stan what the robot tells me to pick

wispy epoch
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im sorry whispyr, im just kidding

novel star
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and otherwise dont care

wispy epoch
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i still go your build

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cause im not doing 14+s

balmy condor
cinder quartz
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pick master assassin, never press vanish. I'm bult diff

novel star
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is i dont sim m+

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because i dont fucking care

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everything i sim i sim for raid

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and raid only

balmy condor
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amen

novel star
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literally who cares about any sim that isnt patchwerk 1 target

cinder quartz
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m+ it either does damage or it doesn't, and it's all up to the tank

novel star
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dungeon slice?

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5t?

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10t?

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hectic cleave?

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these are delusions of the western mind

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lock in man

cinder quartz
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dungeons are minigame content

cloud fox
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
cinder quartz
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like the yoshi flower thign in mario 64 DS

wispy epoch
arctic socket
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WE ARE SO9 UP

hollow river
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i saw that

arctic socket
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lmao

stark scroll
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is it troll to take the dagger

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?

arctic socket
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take the crystal

wispy epoch
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unironically a better upgrade

novel star
nimble vector
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if you are killing bloodbound horror every week you will get a dagger eventually

stark scroll
arctic socket
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take the crystal

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100000%

stark scroll
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we are already on kyveza as well

novel star
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any other 639 dagger would sim like within margin of error

stark scroll
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yeah

novel star
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and

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dozens of trinkets would be a loss

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so

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go trink

dull prism
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so subterfuge and the double vanish is to make it easier to spread garrote and rupture?

stark scroll
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Ok thanks guys

novel star
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double vanish is still kind of a fake talent even now

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you take subterfuge because it's really good with master assassin and iron wire

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without subterfuge the 6s base ic duration is still long enough to get out all the bleeds you need to get out

dull prism
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yeah thats what i think too

balmy condor
novel star
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double vanish or 1/2 leth are like

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the same shit

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damage wise

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just go vibes

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double vanish can help make bad tanks hurt less

nimble vector
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being a vibes player is very based

novel star
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but thats it rly

arctic socket
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@balmy condor can i trade you my myth track skardyns for your myth track crystal?

cobalt sphinx
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forced induction is the new wave

novel star
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i fuck with forced inductions vibe really heavily

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in raid

balmy condor
novel star
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but i dont want to drop subt in m+ now

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already addicted to it

balmy condor
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only myth track I have is my throngus's finger ya know what I'm saying haha :3

novel star
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alright man

runic hinge
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:3

balmy condor
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what you know about throngus and his fingers man

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hater

dull prism
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2 leth 1 sub should be good

quasi stump
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time for a 10 ara-kara as arms War

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this is gonna suck

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i hate ara kara

gaunt pike
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!plater

prisma monolithBOT
latent grove
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is it worth it at all to craft a necklace if mine is champion track?

novel star
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sim pissing me off man

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ion hazzikostas curse of ra

limber lion
novel star
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Based

balmy condor
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straight slorpglorpin it

novel star
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7tv fav gifs having the link pisses me off so i had to make it a gif

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so i can favourite it

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and post it on demand

dull prism
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thats like the nasties gif ive ever seen

novel star
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Sunscreen

coral ibex
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the nastiest you've seen yet

west crown
dull prism
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🫣

balmy condor
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every guy wants to be a girl on the inside

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very normal

coral ibex
high epoch
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I want to be a jas39e gripen fitted with 6 mica meteors so my enemies can know fear

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but go off ig

balmy condor
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I can't read half those words

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but go off

coral ibex
high epoch
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scawy plane wiff scawy missiwes

normal mist
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I want to be a red chocobo

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now thats fear

dull prism
burnt zodiac
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Just leveled my Assa rogue, Currently have Hero Tier shoulder and chest, and Hero Transmitter from raid. Can someone help me pick? i think Wings would be the way to go here but not sure, sims will prob show tier helm or the hero helm (tiered) but im not sure

high epoch
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is the red chocobo spicy?

burnt zodiac
coral ibex
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yes

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the red chocobo blows the fuck up

white orchid
#

This myth track spyglass legit doesnt proc and when it does I havent gotten it to go more than 1 stack lol feels like it sucks

novel star
dull prism
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i would pick set pieces

novel star
burnt zodiac
balmy condor
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yeh just cata the tier

burnt zodiac
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gotta fight for cloak, can get hero gear all over the place

dull prism
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thats true didnt see 626 ilvl

ripe rapids
#

We vanish at 6 seconds left of KB right>?

cerulean walrus
keen spruce
limber lion
#

I just realized that you get Cut to the Chase when you're level 18

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But you get Envenom when you're 22

keen spruce
limber lion
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Love it

hollow river
#

sounds like maybe envenom should be level 10

limber lion
#

Yeah, Assassination is running around with Eviscerate until 22

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Weird choice lol.

limber lion
#

Also funny how you can get 2x Shadowstep charges

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before you even unlock Shadowstep itself

distant plinth
ripe rapids
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You vanish at 6 seconds left on KB now with MA right?

limber lion
iron valve
ionic fox
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Have cape at 626 already... transmitter strictly ST, hands easy to get. Don't need anything else. What you guys think?

uneven ibex
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:S double on use highest sim

ripe rapids
keen spruce
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last 6s of KB if you're runnin MA

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otherwise it's kind of flexible to spread IW

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or apply bleeds on chain pulls

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i'm assuming you're talking about M+ hmmge

ripe rapids
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yeah

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I just needed to fix one of my WA's it was telling me to still vanish at 3 seconds

keen spruce
#

There's probably a "correct" time to maximize damage

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but like

novel star
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leveling is so shit man

keen spruce
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it's more useful to just use it flexibly

quasi stump
#

10 ara kara timed yay

spice spire
#

Gj

west crown
#

@balmy condor Sorry for the ping, what was it you were saying the other day about desyncing shiv form kingsbane?

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on Ovinax

indigo meadow
#

caustic spatter splashes from the center of the mob right?

royal lantern
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ye

indigo meadow
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so on bloodbound i need to target the adds individually cause hitting the boss wont reach the adds?

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or is that wrong

royal lantern
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yes

spice surge
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Spatter from boss wont reach adds ye

agile locust
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What are people running on Mythic Ulgrax? Cleave build or AOE?

coral ibex
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spatter range is center of your target -> edge of aoe target hitbox

agile locust
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I have checked the guide and run both, just wondering what ppl prefer

indigo meadow
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all the cleave fights seem like so annoyingly hard to parse on with sin atm idk why. my group kills adds on ulgrax instantly i got a 97 on m sikran but ulgrax and brood its like gl trying to parse that

agile locust
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Yeah I agree, blood is easier. I find the add phase on Ulgrax annoying

coral ibex
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probably just play spatter if even that

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depends on how fast adds die

indigo meadow
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spatter, full aoe, st

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i luckily got a good log on bloodbound before all the gigachad padders started their bs

static glacier
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it's ourr last reclear before extending

undone pollen
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Ulgrax has been my only issue parsing

static glacier
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last chance for a bunch of the v rare items

undone pollen
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People run aoe builds and demolish adds and ruin parses

static glacier
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90 is easy just playing st on the boss

undone pollen
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I have all orange on heroic trying to parse mythic

static glacier
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yeah im talking mythic

indigo meadow
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i have 98 average in heroic

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so its not a rotational thing ppl are just padding

static glacier
indigo meadow
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yeah i have a 97 on m sikran as well

static glacier
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my last kill on ulgrax was 94 on boss, 90 overall

indigo meadow
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how are we suppose to play rash now that they added add dmg?

undone pollen
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Yea idk how your running 90s on single target ulgtax

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Doesn’t make sense

static glacier
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primarily played for boss dam

indigo meadow
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spatter doesnt reach adds on rash does it?

coral ibex
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you pay your guild to drop adds up rash's ass

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and get rank 1

undone pollen
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That’s like 80mil damage loss

static glacier
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aka whispyr's guild

indigo meadow
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yeah bro im cooked for parsing

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sin is too situational

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for aoe

static glacier
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regardless you can do decently on rash regardless

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90+ is possible off the boss alone

indigo meadow
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yeah but 90 doesnt make me happy lol

static glacier
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maybe we're different, ill take a 90 and it's fine

remote trellis
#

doesnt rashanan parses ignore add damage anyway

undone pollen
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Hitem with the double regardless, that’s parsing regardless

indigo meadow
remote trellis
static glacier
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parsing feels like a roulette, some weeks 99 rank 10 other times it's some 85-90

indigo meadow
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if i had a myth outlaw wep i would just go outlaw for our reclear lol

static glacier
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I have one but OL is troll

indigo meadow
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not really its actually really good in raid aside for silken court

static glacier
coral ibex
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i was getting topped ( ayoo ) by an outlaw on heroic ansurek and i had to check wcl to see if this was supposed to happen

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(it is)

indigo meadow
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the adds die instantly

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now at least

static glacier
undone pollen
indigo meadow
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its actualyl pretty close if your good.

undone pollen
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Yea try to convince a pug your boss dam is sick bro 😎

zinc vine
#

Is fatebound and deathstalker pretty similar in terms of DPS?

coral ibex
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in pure single target yea

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fb falls off big time with more targets compared to deathstalker

zinc vine
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I see

static glacier
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that's not close in my book

coral ibex
static glacier
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on our 1st kill of ovi I was rank 7

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i don't think r1 OL competes with me

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infact rank 1 OL is behind 95% sin

indigo meadow
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yeah i guess 140 is quite a bit.

static glacier
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don't get me wrong, in a vacuum OL is good for ovi

indigo meadow
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i dont think its troll tho.

static glacier
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it's just sin is exceptional

indigo meadow
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playing outlaw for reclear

coral ibex
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OL is close to assa in literal pure ST

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assa just gets way more funnel

indigo meadow
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yeah exactly

coral ibex
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CT, singular focus

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cranks the boss

indigo meadow
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assa does more boss dmg on that fight strictly bc of the funnel

undone pollen
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Especially for brood

indigo meadow
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i hear ct is ass now for brood lol

coral ibex
undone pollen
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I don’t think so

coral ibex
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based on what

static glacier
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the spiders / worms live for a while normally

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it's just the lil parasites that get blown up, but that was always the case

indigo meadow
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well my group is full saving aoe cds for the parasites

static glacier
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you had like 5-8 globals on them

coral ibex
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yea you're getting almost a full 5t CT

static glacier
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so ur dam on boss / bigger targets will be good

coral ibex
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i'm aware, but the singular focus

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CT does a ton of damage and 5% is always getting added back into ovinax

indigo meadow
#

are you waiting till everything gets grouped to ct?

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or just sending it as soon as adds drop

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bc if i wait too long it feels wasted

static glacier
coral ibex
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i mean it should be like 2 gcds for parasites to spawn and get knocked in

static glacier
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they're knocked by evokers n druids

indigo meadow
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yeah ig

static glacier
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then hard gripped by the tanks

coral ibex
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as soon as you see them flying at the slug

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rip CT

indigo thicket
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when youre not playing supercharger, do you shiv at the beginning of KB or still end?

soft surge
#

do i ever use shiv outside of kingsbane and/or deathmarks window

static leaf
#

what is the mastery dr im at 50% 15.2k mastery, would 54% be better or worse sim showing no difference really with swapping

runic hinge
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Stats don’t matter that’s why it doesn’t show a difference

balmy dome
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On Court, I'm seeing a lot of sin rogues vanish at 20 seconds into the fight before the amp phase

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is it not worth holding for your deathmark/kingsbane phase?

soft surge
rain wraith
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Why are they vanishing at 20%

marble hemlock
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scrolling up in this channel was a mistake

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i blame you @balmy condor

rain wraith
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Its the worst channel in this discord

rotund oak
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then why are u here

rain wraith
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Because im a sin main and i like it

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But shit gets dicey alot

rotund oak
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idk,u smell different

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but might be the fact that i was over a barbeque for 8 hours

rain wraith
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What u make

stray adder
#

glizzies

stray adder
#

you're just uncultured

sinful marsh
#

Are amber gems worth using for the bonus to the blasphemite?

rain wraith
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Wtf is a glizzie

stray adder
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it's a hot dog

rain wraith
#

What makes the hot dog a glizzie

stray adder
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it's called slang

rain wraith
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Like fancy mustard?

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Ahh

rotund oak
stray adder
rain wraith
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Glizzy gladiators

stray adder
#

sounds like you ngl

rain wraith
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New 2’s team bame

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Name

west crown
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How tf do you 99 Ulgrax

stray adder
#

he went from hater to supporter real quick

rain wraith
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No hater. Just old

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Confused by all the skibidis and rizzys and all that shit

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My nephew calls me a boomer

rotund oak
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join the club fam

stray adder
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deserved tbh

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tbh = to be honest

nimble vector
rain wraith
coral ibex
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insane loot lmao

rain wraith
rotund oak
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pretty normal

waxen oyster
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So wait since we dont have a real job on ovinaxx

rotund oak
waxen oyster
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is only mythic change for us to break eggs

fickle girder
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Interrupt, if you're assigned

nimble vector
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just more adds, more swirlies, more interrupts

waxen oyster
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yeah that too

rain wraith
keen spruce
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I still haven't seen a zenith token drop since I came back

rain wraith
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All my tier pieces have been catalyst/spelunker

waxen oyster
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Mine all say mythic+

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5/5 of them

rain wraith
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Getting there

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Could have had. But ive manages to get crystal,arakara and spyglass 639 from vault. Prob could have had 5/5 myth tier but i like trinkets

old halo
cobalt sphinx
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3 passive trinkets and only one passive trinket slot lol

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that is cooked

coral ibex
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oh we got paid back tho

rain wraith
cobalt sphinx
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yeah vault seems weighted toward trinkets

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half my guild has arakara

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i saw gb+arakara in the same vault, took gb and got arakara back 2 weeks later

proud dust
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
lime pelican
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any good m+ builds for 12+ keys?

balmy dome
upper oak
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damage amp?

balmy dome
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just want the last tick of death mark on the daamage amp? damage amp is at 40

ebon notch
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anyone around for a log review

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@balmy condor ?

runic hinge
ebon notch
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wait shmeep is back?

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cant wait for him to open a vault with every very rare item in it

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@spice spire

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!log

prisma monolithBOT
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Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

ebon notch
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fuck

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!logreview

prisma monolithBOT
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Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

ebon notch
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WHATS THE COMMAND

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usually this place is crawling in cops

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where they at

balmy condor
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I'm raiding man

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the command doesn't work cause we don't have people to review

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so we turned it off

dawn heath
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surely one of these rows has my skardyns?

marble hemlock
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no

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sorry

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try again next week

dawn heath
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:/(

junior aurora
#

mythic 15s

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what is this

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legion?

zenith tree
junior aurora
#

just do ur 10s

hardy crypt
#

can't wait to get a 4th myth mistcaller ocarina

ebon notch
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@marble hemlock help me ;-;

hardy crypt
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instead of skardyn's

quasi stump
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+8 w/o hekili POGGIES

dawn heath
frank condor
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so the shiv macro doesn't work anymore right? anytime i press it it doesn't drink the tea at all

coral ibex
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weekly vault is +10

sterile spade
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anyone's weakaura stop working after latest patch? dhaturo edit luxthos

marble hemlock
ebon notch
marble hemlock
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no i mean, how do you think you can get me to care

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what do you need looking at?

ebon notch
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i dont know

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im rusty at the spec

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any glaring errors i guess

marble hemlock
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have you tried wowanalyzer

ebon notch
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is it up to date

marble hemlock
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uptime good? low cp waste?

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using CDs properly?

pastel talon
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Anyone know where I can get this WA?

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Where it shows casts

ebon notch
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it looks ok

flint hound
marble hemlock
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good envenom uptime looking at the log

nimble vector
marble hemlock
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think you just have low ilvl

nimble vector
marble hemlock
frank condor
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well no, wowanalyzer uses the wcl url

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voila magic

ebon notch
nimble vector
ebon notch
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all my fan of knives hit things

marble hemlock
ebon notch
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usually used it just to get to last cp for DN

pastel talon
nimble vector
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okay wowanalyzer just doesn't work properly then just made me laugh when i saw that

marble hemlock
nimble vector
marble hemlock
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you still send mutilate

ebon notch
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ew

marble hemlock
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and fok after proccing DN to get the clear the witness proc

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ye its cringe af

ebon notch
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ok

marble hemlock
#

ye

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i forget it

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half the time

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its not a big deal

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but without VV you wanna fok

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since its 2cp guaranteed for 35energy

ebon notch
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okok

marble hemlock
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and decent dam with CtW up

frank condor
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clear the witness extra cp is pretty large when you're out of tea and gassed between cds

amber brook
#

How huge is the dps diff when using flask and tempered potion

marble hemlock
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pot is pretty big

fallow canopy
nimble vector
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@ebon notch don't double garrote opener (this is sikran from the same log), also vanish > ambush during the fight doesn't do anything if you didn't lose your mark at some point

drifting cloud
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noob

nimble vector
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doesn't matter you refresh with vanish anyway

drifting cloud
frank condor
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Vanish ambush is a loss too usually since you reset your TDN progress

drifting cloud
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wait vault is in 3h now instead of 2h its joever @ebon notch

ebon notch
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okok

ebon notch
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since us election is on

heady ridge
#

does the ansurek ring interact in any way with anything in our kit? (like Shiv or Lingering Darkness)

sharp swallow
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No

slim pebble
#

Mandate on Silken court is fun af

sharp swallow
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It does what it says and doesnt get any dmg increase from our kit

spice spire
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@ebon notch what the fuck do you need

drifting cloud
#

he needs a log inspection

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he sent you pics in dm

spice spire
#

?

amber brook
drifting cloud
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lvl 2 pots are borderline free

ebon notch
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wanted log review

spice spire
#

Okay post you dumb bitch hello

drifting cloud
errant mauve
#

anyone having trouble logging into game server?

errant mauve
#

i been stuck at logging into game server then getting disconnected

drifting cloud
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are you EU by any chance

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since we have maintenance

errant mauve
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nah NA

novel parcel
#

Question about m silken court. Why are a lot of the logs pressing deathmark on anubarash right before he jumps for the charge before 1st damage amp? How much of a loss is it to be lazy and just wait to deathmark whenever he charges when you kingsbane?

drifting cloud
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dont overthink it

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you can also just send on pull

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its just alot of the top20 logs are prob by like 1 or 2 different cn players

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because of splits / sales

novel parcel
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I'm just curious about the reasoning behind it

wise gull
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im not normally one to get salty over loot but man not winning a single roll the entire tier feelsbad

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since mythic at least

nimble vector
drifting cloud
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and since its court it also has the 2 other variables of your color and if youre doing a net

lean moss
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
novel parcel
novel parcel
drifting cloud
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its whatever, boss has negative dmg check

novel parcel
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Its negative fun tho

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I'm just glad I aint that person

oak eagle
#

after my vanish, i let my imp garr drop before applying a new garrote, right?

spice spire
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like you're not in stealth or any effects and you're looking to reapply?

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yeah

oak eagle
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yeah when i vanish with 6 sec left on KB, and I apply a new garrote, I let that new garrote I applied with Imp Garrote, I let that one fall before applying a new one

spice spire
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correct

oak eagle
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ok wanted to make sure i wasnt gimping myself

wild pine
#

How do we maximize kb damage exactly? I never seem to be able to reach full stacks before timer runs out

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Or if i do theres like 1 second left if not less lol

woven shore
#

how do you guys use your cooldowns on Ovinax

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Deathmark kb on add spawn

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on pull just gar rup mut env?

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or do you KB on pull ?

balmy condor
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nothing to be done

wild pine
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Ah, fair enough ig

novel star
#

first mythic 99 parse on rashanan b_yipee

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pink gamer time

spice spire
#

External check

balmy condor
#

guild diff

oak tangle
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i don't know why, but i always do well on rashanan, what are all the other rogues doing, i just press button with no thought

spice spire
novel star
cunning needle
spice spire
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Over half is execute

novel star
#

the 3 guilds ive been in so far this tier

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i upgraded all of my parses instantly after leaving

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both times

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kill time moment

oak tangle
cunning needle
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i dunno i'm just a monkey or something

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my parses have dropped from purple to green/blue since the update

spice spire
#

Yeah partition

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We’re not fighting 590 rats in mythic anymore

cunning needle
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nah as in used to parse purple, now i'm a green parser

spice spire
#

It’s all current geared people

oak tangle
#

is that maybe it? there is just so many undergeared alts, that for some reason cannot do well on rashanan?

cunning needle
#

some people are just monkeys

oak tangle
#

but can on other bosses

cunning needle
#

simple as that

drifting cloud
#

its just gear and kill timers on first 4

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for assa atleast, since you cant really pad that much

cunning needle
#

also yeah timers make a big part of it

drifting cloud
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even if others wont let you

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so if youre undergeared, with bad kill timers and then maybe even missing a raid buff or two

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youre drawing dead regardless

oak tangle
#

would you consider 3:45 a bad kill timer?

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heroic*

drifting cloud
#

what boss

oak tangle
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rashanana

drifting cloud
#

yeah probably too slow

oak tangle
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hmmm, cause i got a 97 with that time

drifting cloud
#

but yeah cant really say for heroic since I stop doing that difficulty like week 3

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im guessing parsing 95+ is kinda free in such a big pool

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esp on a semi-fotm spec

oak tangle
#

i'm just curious, cause out of the first 4, i overperform vs the others on rashanan

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oh rather, i underperform on the others