assassination

[zenith cradle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fUAcwsyhTfQf2CjZW2r3LB

does Sureki Zealot's Insignia passive not get simmed or is it actually 3.3k DPS behind emergency stop keychain for me?

[hollow stone]

for sure, but when the sims are so close its almost a “why bother tho?”

[small wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[sullen granite]

Do I want to cast Rupture and Garrote after I deathmark or before or does it not matter?

[hollow stone]

Definitely before

[subtle tundra]

i thought my 2nd reply would be enough to raise some questions LOL

[small wagon]

bleeds then deathmark

[sullen granite]

deathmark will trigger the already existing bleeds?

[small wagon]

yes

[sullen granite]

ok thank you

[arctic socket]

False information? That’s punishable by death

And back shots

[ancient rain]

actually, no

[normal mist]

yes it will

[spice spire]

Quick q.
Do you have a comparable ring/trinket. try that. The neck has a ton of haste. Will eventually lose out to non cantrip options if you have other haste gear

[ancient rain]

if you garrote and rupture after DM they still get doubled. its just worse to do it

[spice spire]

If that’s the case half of the population here would have received them

[inland fox]

on sims is the first envenom just for the buff before burst? so 2-3 cp envenom?

[normal mist]

???

That was not his question

[subtle tundra]

its 5-6 cp

that rupture generates cp

[arctic socket]

If only that was possible

[ancient rain]

the question was if deathmark "triggers" the bleeds. idk what that means tbf

[spice spire]

Do not doubt me TO

[inland fox]

havent notice that XD

[small wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[spice spire]

Then why answer

[inland fox]

ima try later

[subtle tundra]

you need the correct talent

[spice spire]

He’s just asking if they duplicate existing

Which yes they do

[quasi wigeon]

is there some1 kind enough to share with me the plater ids for the duplicated dots from deathmark so i can hide them ?

[hollow stone]

you still want to finish at 5cp+ for that first env before cds

[arctic socket]

I like to press my deathmark raw without bleeds

[small wagon]

i use jundies plater, looks pretty clean

[ancient rain]

well, yeah it does duplicate existing and it duplicates them if you apply them after

[arctic socket]

I just watched someone take a heroic track transmitter over a myth track skardyns

[ancient rain]

thats all i intended to say

[arctic socket]

While I’m telling them not to

[quasi wigeon]

it hides em ?

`thanks

[small wagon]

looks like that, cuz they look very clean

[spice spire]

I wouldn’t listen to u either

But I’m a hater

[arctic socket]

Yall looking forward to the kingsbane buff coming soon?

[hollow stone]

Uncapped kingsbane????

[kindred hinge]

You means KB removal from the game?

[small wagon]

what did they do to KB? im raid logging

[wise gull]

say it aint so

[spice spire]

They didn’t

[arctic socket]

Go read the rework of it

[small wagon]

should i be scared?

[subtle tundra]

you should get banned for misinformation

im not joking

[arctic socket]

You would have been gone a while ago

Me aswell

[subtle tundra]

ive been the most helpful person on this discord, 2nd only to everyone else

[spice spire]

Least propaganda’d varas post

[arctic socket]

Just like how you almost had a threesome last night? Were just missing the other two

[subtle tundra]

no it was a 5some

[spice spire]

In November? Miss him w that

[subtle tundra]

on the 15 arakara

+2'd that hoe

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

she ara on my kara till I deplete

[subtle tundra]

we did deplete the 16

on first boss

cause its hard 😦

[tough trail]

what talents are u dropping for SV? currently running MA, IW, SD

[coral ibex]

she empower my crystal until i anub all over

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/windahbasudara-brando-gif-25980747

[wise gull]

we are eatin' so good

[meager crane]

yo boys is the rasha’nan cloak that good for us? between that on hero track and a myth trailspinner neck from vault

can’t sim rn just curious if the cloak is that much better than like a crit mas cloak

[hollow stone]

The cloak proc has no dmg element to it right? So its just stats

[arctic socket]

[meager crane]

yea survivability I suppose

is the benefit

[hollow stone]

right so thats it

[meager crane]

which I do m+ so it’d be useful

[arctic socket]

@spice spire

[meager crane]

but is it that much survivability to be worth it?

[spice spire]

I’m not clicking that virus

[arctic socket]

Click it

Worth it

Tbh

[spice spire]

No

[hollow stone]

it would also save some crests potentially; hero track comes at 626 right? So saves 30 crests vs 619

[spice spire]

I’m also on mobile and that doesn’t work Blud

[primal iris]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[arctic socket]

You can’t listen to voice messages?

[spice spire]

Nope

Not on disc anyway

Plus I cba

[hollow stone]

maybe, youll have to sim and see if its worth it in your case

[spice spire]

[severe sparrow]

I replaced my heroic track rashanan cloak with a myth track other regular cloak but i dont go higher than like 11s and usually when i die a little bit of avoidance or w/e wasn't gonna save me

[pure moth]

Meow to you too

[spice spire]

Oh especially not now

[pure moth]

Lol

[subtle tundra]

this is an even better reason for the ban

youre doing this to yourself

[spice spire]

Tell her big dog

[subtle tundra]

bro you should hear me

during keys

when i start meowing

💀

[spice spire]

Gonna stop you here king

Nah

[subtle tundra]

i start getting frustrated

and i bust a meow

or two

and its all good

[granite pagoda]

How come we dont use ambush after vanishing during the opener? Dont we still get improved garrote afterwards?

[limber lion]

We do

[balmy condor]

ambush sucks

[spice spire]

Ambush does less dam than mut

[limber lion]

Oh yeah I forgot people don't permaplay DS

[granite pagoda]

Oh does it? I must’ve looked at the damage wrong

[balmy condor]

I mean it does more damage

[slate crown]

.ogg ready for WA import

[meager crane]

yea valid

[balmy condor]

but it is the worse button

mut double hits and there's shit and nonsense

[limber lion]

Mutilate does like 17 different things

[spice spire]

With modifiers + double hit + everything else?

[granite pagoda]

Ohh okay I didn’t account for the double hit

Thanks!

[wicked valve]

How good is seal of the poisoned pact? a 6/6 hero better than a ythic track shoulder? Sims saying the ring.

[limber lion]

Then take the ring

[severe sparrow]

this got me thinking, imagine sliding into a pug 10 for vaulters, shit goes down, half the group is hard carries. the key is depleted. the vibes are bad. shit talking in party chat. and then someone meows in the in game voice chat that no one remembers exists

[limber lion]

Very simple

[spice spire]

Listening to sims

[limber lion]

Depends what you want to do and what content you do

[wicked valve]

Will do, thanks friends.

[spice spire]

I’d immediately leave

[severe sparrow]

i have a champ version of that ring and the sims are making it real hard to get rid of

[rancid bloom]

!MACROS

[limber lion]

I'm rocking 2x crafted

[rancid bloom]

!macroes

[severe sparrow]

also my luck with only ever getting 5x of the ring from nw

[rancid bloom]

!macro

any shadowmeld stealth macro ?

[brisk forge]

Ring som high

[lavish geyser]

I just do /use shadowmeld and /use stealth in one macro

[severe sparrow]

i dont think there's a good macro for that cuz youre gonna have to hit it twice anyway so all youre doing is saving a binding idk

[lavish geyser]

works sometimes depends on what mobs you are fighting

[rancid bloom]

not working for me

[lavish geyser]

you do wanna press it 2x

[fickle fossil]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[rancid bloom]

i do

[lavish geyser]

are you doing it on dummies?

[rancid bloom]

idk if has anything with poisens

yes

[lavish geyser]

wont work on them

[severe sparrow]

i wish the dummies werent fucking pain

oh you want to drop combat?

[lavish geyser]

do it in dungoens, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt. still isnt rly a waste to try 🙂

[rancid bloom]

ok ty

[lavish geyser]

I just used it for subterfuge for outlaw

and ig you get improved poisons for assa? I dont rly know the spec that well, I just play it XD

[severe sparrow]

oh i was just complaining that you have to go halfway across the map, or wait for a cd to drop combat with them

[rancid bloom]

ty

[inner current]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

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[lavish geyser]

btw when is it worth to use CT, just more for more then 1 target?

[balmy condor]

yes

[timber gust]

Okay so anyone got a WA for this shitty Thistle Tea change?

[balmy condor]

yeah, whatever tea you have now

right click delete

[severe sparrow]

what kind of wa lol

[timber gust]

Like something that helps me keep track of my energy, some symbol or something

[balmy condor]

easiest tracking is not tracking

why

[timber gust]

If the energy is below 80 for example

[lavish geyser]

do you wanna use stealth and tea at the same time?

[timber gust]

Something that warns me not to muti

[balmy condor]

just mut

[severe sparrow]

i have a marker on my energy bar just for personal mild interest, but it's also not a wa so

[balmy condor]

like just don't care

it's that easy

[timber gust]

I'm a guy like that man I'm too nice I care too much guess that's why they don't want me in their mythic groups

[jagged pebble]

so is skardyns better than transmitter just because its ezer to use?

[balmy condor]

yes

[severe sparrow]

it literally doesnt matter so you dont need to care is the point

[timber gust]

I feel like if I care i can finally do 1.5m overall

[balmy condor]

surely

[limber lion]

Yeah that'll be the deciding factor

Mutilating or not under 80 energy

[pliant silo]

Sometimes tea is automatically popped on my literal final global on a dying mob

[limber lion]

(It won't be)

[pliant silo]

It’s sad but it is what it is

[robust axle]

Does Subterfuge make us play any differently in m+ when talented?

[balmy condor]

no

[timber gust]

It's not about muti but rather keeping your tea stacks for when they're useful

[late surge]

I mean u can delay mark a bit

if big mob is gonna be pulled

within subt window

[limber lion]

They're useful when it automatically pops

Because you use it for energy

And if it autopops, it uses it for energy

[late surge]

but most of the times subt would not change how u play

[limber lion]

So it's good

[timber gust]

Blizz bootlicker get away from me

[balmy condor]

what

[limber lion]

Hmm

[woeful meteor]

[balmy condor]

are you like going through something man

[timber gust]

I'm divorced, my kids hate me and I only have my beloved assassination rogue to keep me going

[pliant remnant]

[severe sparrow]

did your wife take the bruto

damn

[balmy condor]

you are a strange strange human

but gl with that I guess

[timber gust]

no she took the car thank god my 5k pc setup is safe and sound

[dim hill]

Yo guys, is it stupid to craft 4 items? Or is it better to upgrade what i got? I have no mythic items yet and crafting a 4th 636 item would give some nice Ilvl

[spice surge]

If you dont have myth track to upgrade crafting is fine. But generally upgrading your myth track items are more efficient than crafting

Obv if you dont have any, then thats not an option so crafting is good

[wise gull]

i might craft a ring tbh

[frosty bridge]

just make sure to do 1x ring and 1x weapon recraft thing to save a bunch of crests

[wise gull]

actually maybe not if the new ring ends up being good

[dim hill]

Yeah i did both ring and weapon 🙂

[charred tree]

Thoughts about mythic ring vs weapon. At max upgrade, weapon sims higher in ST but Scalawag ring higher in AOE.

[dim hill]

Ill try my luck for a myth item tomorrow for vault! Tyvm!

[woeful meteor]

!WA:2!DvvZUTrvu444kfPbbkXuQOOUiksGawKgcTfecw4X1UjGJT74jnbjKSVZmh75sgFVd37D8pzhwcPS27zJxdBSuFbI4byKfpbzbpa5jGZ9oJDABKI95V75NVZpUqTsdkfuk4QpFo1NZAZte(WJ2qmUzVEsqvybj4xtKki4eY4nVJHY2umzTjm)qUOfNYuEvQ2WTQZsFopkGpI1Eeng6E9k2Qb9HqbXxr5m5ZCKkIqzztzuLLxp8lzO1uLG2VpiKFWNjYjVAB7e0eV4iYeqyRMedPBhxkrcDiEsUW7iGeDcpa66eZhbIpzVV9GBmuD4XGGO4OOV)hMPFGrCxhyiWuoT0m3it8mSTeqp6yN2TQwV(uTT6G2DM5f6yU1uzmefDCG0YHrgasRBUlfmHFTRAN0dD1Iovk32TtB3YoUlxhCTR6opa8qBCrAXrvR3Q2P1NLWYRxR4D0q0qWnJx77)AJBr4fems0RqWbXV)82laiUmMt(khcIOHZKquptBiDlmasIkblEiCoMwoqFnM)DpiT0sK1J4FrFbpHfC19JlPGXQoYqc2IopVPg)qJqZh94Ibe0GCcBgNbZwREVpvgV9B4Hk8iU4hluOqXBYKUkPSlFQBZ4p0iKKO4ORO(NrduH2Lr2BZIfDmeye(7lZMR(58m6AJE98hT3eSafCfwCUOq7gnBunTKaRlTnZng6BsJI4FZYlcMkE7Ac6L7(YesacmKDDDFRAFvKwAKnIlcotqINEworwcmKkPErq38A(nM9J354gnQ60XUPRBZtCo(fh5UCDOBtVeEyEfD(BfhTwZCqZtDRFCJQ)3Y(r8r1eWVLam)jTU3b7F4tZQoTIR1F8CDJf7NfNQ50VEPxIsXznhccClzUwCDG1xf(rl00RkTzAMkRHMRXPYxSssOXYvjNTMj0yFBFseu0KwUHu)lyGuw0OPofP3XenBeLarOxiq7hQU3pzhXjbVYgx2blpf6aM6bodsIuulh)iIu(G0FXYwp9MrG4JMiEBmLkNFMXC1j8DfrzHZfMXzDHBRpB5H)3J23AgHrhyqMNL(E1slL(4RbIeARegSyRLb5axh9wOqc47cKt12O9v6JThqOmZdt7TvA)0Wuks((VRKPRoO1n1V7sCyg7QnJnx1SIV)kL6zZNtLeCCji05UbY5kU)WSL4pUWF)69ObEnAU7jN6EB28rnbEDrNpETR4uTAdhsuCiPOZi9AX)8hMlFvYJbEBax(HUhMqdw8YVaQF4btOJFYebLPdbeUON2BicGd8fTVKZh0Q4b7)1Z1vonlJxqzzB2iN1nXcEFb2HZ(PGV8rBSzjP3t3)R(M9FsPH)75))p

[dim hill]

Else im gonna craft tomorrow

[limber lion]

monkas

[halcyon portal]

Mountain dew promotion hypeeee

[woeful meteor]

cba uploading it to wago

[timber gust]

Is this going to mail my gold to you?

[woeful meteor]

no

[timber gust]

Good ty

[waxen oyster]

all 20k of it

[severe sparrow]

fuck

[limber lion]

Hey that's like half of my bank

[severe sparrow]

i forgot to sell the boe i got last night

[timber gust]

I can't lose my 3k

[severe sparrow]

rip

[wise gull]

are you doing mythic raid?

[charred tree]

Did 1st boss, but not sure I will do it again.

[wise gull]

ah, hard to say then

[late surge]

then go dagger

[wise gull]

myth track dagger is pretty easy cuz second boss

[late surge]

id say

[wise gull]

so ye

prolly dagger

[cobalt sphinx]

Is there any logic to picking your supercharger finishers on AOE? Is a 9 point ct better than an envenom? Does 9 point rupture suck?

[late surge]

mh ilvl big

u could also sim it

[timber gust]

Man you're a genius, when I go below 80 energy the whole screen fils with notooltip icon so i don't see shit

[late surge]

639 vs 639

[woeful meteor]

cant cast when you dont see anything

[timber gust]

fucking a-right

thank you so much

[spice surge]

Extra combo points doesnt increase the damage of rupture or crimson directly, it just increases their duration

[severe sparrow]

wdym? you can spam fok and ct

[woeful meteor]

just make the icon smaler

[severe sparrow]

youll probably hit something

[timber gust]

no no this works perfectly

[spice surge]

But generally when you shiv you'd want to envenom anyway

[charred tree]

I did sim it, but I think dagger is the right move. Need all the ST I can get for M+ 10 and over. Thanks

[waxen oyster]

10s not really

still do a mil

[wise gull]

You're simming it main hand with crafted in OH right?

[charred tree]

Sure, but I run with people doing half that.

[wise gull]

idk i want that ring really bad haha

[charred tree]

Yes, 639 MH and crafter 636 in OH.

[waxen oyster]

find better friends

[severe sparrow]

awww let them flex on their friends

[charred tree]

Friends are rare. I pug when I need better players.

[waxen oyster]

pug

better players

[vapid geode]

simming worse than tier chest is vers that good?

[crisp stream]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[severe sparrow]

is losing the tier chest breaking your 4p?

[waxen oyster]

easiest way to do pug 10s fast for vault

dont invite people below 630

did you sim with an enchant

[severe sparrow]

i have ever gotten to the point where the sims say to gem haste so yk, idk, the math maths sometimes

[vapid geode]

@severe sparrow no i have helm in bags

[inner current]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

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[waxen oyster]

did you put helm into sim

[charred tree]

Actually, looking at it again, at 639 in ST the dagger beats the ring by 0.2%, but ring beats dagger in AOE by 0.5%

[vapid geode]

ye

[vivid mulch]

Anyone know what all the 20th anni bosses drop?

[charred tree]

Yes, I simmed with Depths enchant.

[frigid pilot]

35 GRIM BATOLS AND IM STILL PROGGING WITH NORMAL TRANSMITTER

SKARDYN GANG

[waxen oyster]

lol depths enchant is worse on st for me

[pliant remnant]

[frigid pilot]

tears of happiness rn

[severe sparrow]

i woulda taken off the transmitter for the next nearest trinket, fuck that thing

[sudden trench]

well this is a shit choice xD

[frigid pilot]

i can finally prog braindead skardyn

doing little jumps and orb going through ansurek was AIDS

cant see orbs under the 20 billion melee on top of the boss

orb*

[strange maple]

2 on use trinket sim highest

sos

[balmy condor]

yeah thats normal

[strange maple]

would u recommend me to take 2 on use trinket ?

[balmy condor]

yes

[spice spire]

What’s not normal

Is mandate slot 1

[balmy condor]

doesnt matter

[lethal turtle]

is it tho? wouldnt eve blink twice between grace and sac

[strange maple]

skardyn u with my death mark

then i will use the mad queen after ?

[balmy condor]

yes

[strange maple]

cool ty

[spice spire]

Well in sims it’s using mandate first, right? So like it’s even more of a gain because that combo isn’t listed innit

[balmy condor]

no

[spice spire]

Does it not use the first slot first?

[balmy condor]

if it has no other parameters then yes

APL blocks mandate first

[spice spire]

Ahh

[onyx cloud]

hey guys, should i sim in single target dummy or dungeon slice? i mainly play m+

[spice spire]

That explains it then

[balmy condor]

dungeonslice

[spice spire]

Dungeon slice.

[desert vault]

Was simming some gems and it is just showing to use all the same type? Mast/crit onyx and nothing else? I might have done the sim wrong, but thought it was right

[onyx cloud]

thank you for the help!

[ashen horizon]

myth track tier pants or hero track cape from rash, damn

[normal mist]

I'd go for pants, since they can go up to 639

but the cape is indeed rare

[ivory kernel]

Wowhead says to get 1 of each color gem for the algari diamond, but raidbots doesnt seem to want to do that. Should I listen to wowhead or raidbots? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9y4EYktE6AP9MkrnPhzqPy

[versed rapids]

Did you select the option to have 1 of each color?

[sudden trench]

nah 100% grace. just sucks to get a good vault for once but then have to choose between this

[ivory kernel]

Probably not, didnt know that was a checkbox. Thanks!

Disregard!

[desert vault]

Oh, I guess I need to find that too cause was seeing the same thing with my gem sims

[ivory kernel]

Looks like if we select "Always use" another checkbox appears to let you tell it you want 4-5 gem colors

[versed rapids]

There ya go. I couldn’t get a screenshot as I’m on my phone.

[limber lion]

Yep

[desert vault]

Yep, I see it now as well. Thank you

[severe sparrow]

i misread this conversation and spent too much time trying to figure out how you were simming on your phone

which is doable i suppose

but gross

[halcyon hamlet]

ez vault

[versed rapids]

That grace is nice!

[halcyon hamlet]

hell yeah, grabbed it the moment i saw it

[lethal turtle]

why am i seeing 500 graces today

[graceful solstice]

Is there a way to sim the ovinax trinket at different stacks? Curious how much worse it gets in situations where you can’t stay under 20

[versed rapids]

Gives me some hope

[balmy condor]

its tuesday

[iron valve]

it's skarday

[balmy condor]

opening vault

will do that

[runic hinge]

People only post when they get something good

[balmy condor]

no

[runic hinge]

no one posts their trash vault

[lethal turtle]

ofc its vault day. but i dont recall seeing this many grace posts in past weeks

[balmy condor]

you're not around enough then I guess

it's like this every week

[vivid mulch]

damn that clear dmg

Didn't even realize lol

[limber lion]

Lol.

[balmy condor]

yeh it scales really weirdly in shit

[pliant remnant]

I'll post my trash vault when EU reset comes

[graceful solstice]

Is it a huge problem? Like better off running something else? Or mostly fine if you’re over a bit?

[mossy fossil]

Hi, is it a big damage lost, when i use a macro for tea and shiv during the kingsbane window?

[pliant remnant]

and then I'll begrudgingly go and do a quick 8 +10 Grim Batols

[vivid mulch]

I was inviting people

for the world boss

[limber lion]

It's fine

[vivid mulch]

and got knocked far away

[runic hinge]

I got you

[mossy fossil]

ty

[balmy condor]

loses about 1.8% if you're perma 30

[limber lion]

I kinda wish we had a vault-channel for posting vault pics

[pliant remnant]

[limber lion]

So I could avoid looking at them

every week

[cobalt sphinx]

do i grab a new chest for 0.5% dslice or a socket

woohoo

[scenic nacelle]

blizz put mythic Skardyns in the majority of rogue vaults it seems

grats guys

[pliant remnant]

That's a very questionable interpretation of the word "majority"

[frigid pilot]

its true, theres some conspiracy

can finally do 8 mists like the other nerds instead of grim batol jail

[balmy condor]

why

[frigid pilot]

because pugging grim batols showed me that even if a tank is 2750 or higher they can still be braindead pull 3 packs with 8 casters wipe and leave

[severe sparrow]

gb > mists. cba with all those aoes and the last boss 🤮

[frigid pilot]

and waste 4 people's times

mists is so forgiving its not even funny

on top of the tanks that dont move on the last boss and get stunned by tentacles

[balmy condor]

true

[frigid pilot]

NA is wild

straight garbanzo players

rogue tank spec when

[violet timber]

anyone mind telling me where i can find the ideal apls to sim for m+?

[junior isle]

Im finding energy management in M+ harder with the Tea changes. Any tips?

[balmy condor]

what

just sim dungeonslice

[balmy condor]

ignore tea

[junior isle]

I just find that sometimes without realizing it Ive dropped below and then Don't have it up for CD burst

[balmy condor]

that's fine

[keen spruce]

i mean it doesn't rly matter but you can just watch your CDs and pool a bit before DM comes up

or KB

or w/e

but it doesn't really gain you anything

[junior isle]

okay dope Wasn't sure, some bosses Im like just sitting there out of energy> Didn't know if taking twist the knife/dashing scoundrel would be worth it. Thanks for the tips

[balmy condor]

problem with dashing is that it's entirely pointless in aoe

[vivid mulch]

It might not be much but this still makes me happy on worldbosses

[balmy condor]

so it's generally just really bad

[junior isle]

Okay makes sense, appreciate it.

[runic hinge]

yeah but it makes me feel dashing if i talent it

[junior isle]

My vault has been good to me, I got M track Skardyns, and M track helm with leach, and M track chest. Almost 630 Party

[nimble tartan]

nice job what are those boxes

[vivid mulch]

Oh you mean the whole dmg thing?

[keen spruce]

there's some builds with TTK for more ST

[slate crown]

auction house sales blowing up my chat window like political campaigns are blowing up my phone rn

i love tuesdays

[keen spruce]

i haven't foudn that the yreally perform any better than just the old hybrid build tbh

[pure moth]

i got you, i took a socket!

[coral ibex]

names with characters not supported by the chosen font

[nimble tartan]

ohhh

[vivid mulch]

oh the names

Didn't even realize lol

[ancient widget]

!shiv

[vivid mulch]

!Tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[warm vortex]

Peak assa stats

[scenic nacelle]

confirmation bias 🙂 most players are posting their Skardyn vault today

[soft surge]

@balmy condor why do we use shiv in the last few? seconds with kingsbane if deathmark is on cd

[balmy condor]

kingsbane ramps

buff bigger ticks

[soft surge]

explain the shiv and kingbane interaction like i am 5

[balmy condor]

kingsbane does nature damage

shiv increases nature damage

[spice spire]

I’m doing my part big dog 🫡

[soft surge]

hmm

this is with only 1x shiv like in m+

we still hold for last few secs?

[haughty lantern]

still no fist weapon for outlaw but this does put a smile on my face

[balmy condor]

yes

the end of kb

does more than the start

[daring minnow]

Yes, so your biggest ticks from Kingsbane are moar with shiv

[soft surge]

okidoke

[waxen oyster]

@bleak spoke its bt timewalking again

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-rat-ratjam-catjam-ratjammers-gif-21929051

[pliant remnant]

Exactly (and it happens every week btw)

[gusty mirage]

I got a ring and the rest of my vault was useless. Stay strong king

[waxen oyster]

which ring though

[trail locust]

Bad ring probably

[scenic nacelle]

[stray adder]

Another tuesday another bad vault

should I buy more tokens

so blizzard reward me properly

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-dancing-rat-dancing-gif-24339527

[inner current]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[trail locust]

Do I wanna exsanguinate or deadmark first? @limber lion erion

[coral ibex]

[hollow river]

[coral ibex]

wtf is exsanguinate

[umbral sigil]

HOW DO I GET RID OF THIS?!?!?!

[hollow river]

shift click

[stark kraken]

Right click

[umbral sigil]

ty 🙂

[hollow river]

the best ability to ever grace the Assassination specialization

[covert sedge]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[verbal blaze]

feels bad getting rid of a heroic rash cloak for a mythic cloak

I'm gonna miss my free procs

[spice spire]

Going to eat ur ass for this one king

[normal kite]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

[thorn crater]

those of you that live in murica

did you vote?

😛

good luck tonight

[blazing grove]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[minor heath]

hello criminal braintrust. i am confused. wowhead says that the bleed build is bad and should only be used in really low keys. when i sim, it says that it has a 7% edge on the hybrid build i was using in dungeonslice. should i ignore this, or is it legit?

[normal mist]

Both are fine up until like 9s

[subtle tundra]

brainthrust

[versed sky]

wtf did i do

[normal mist]

you sim

and then choose ara-kara

[subtle tundra]

id choose crystal

[timber gust]

Lucky dog

[versed sky]

did**

i know i am bless

[normal mist]

got mine yesterday, 626 me happy

[minor heath]

so past that, regardless of sim, i should not be using it?

[lean plover]

Even if egg doesnt sim more, you take it so the other dps are mad at you

[subtle tundra]

well yea but thats myth

[minor heath]

also what is the deal with crystal why is everyone going nuts over it

[subtle tundra]

its a good trinket

best passive trinket for m+

[severe sparrow]

crystal

[wooden elm]

Been a minute since I’ve touched base, we vanish lords now?

[normal mist]

Yeah, i dont know many people that play bleed in high keys, but @subtle tundra can help you understand that better

[subtle tundra]

st have other choices

[subtle tundra]

ill touch you

[normal mist]

please.

[severe sparrow]

imma be real i dont even know what build im playing in keys atm

[subtle tundra]

3rd time today i have to touch someone

[spice spire]

In November homies?

[severe sparrow]

i have a profile called "dunjo"

[spice spire]

I have two profiles

[severe sparrow]

i dont know what it do but it go

[subtle tundra]

i can blue ball the homies

[spice spire]

M+ but for idiots (me)
M+ but for idiots (Whispyr’s version) like that mf is t swizzle or some shit

[humble cradle]

Fellow rogues I need guidance. Just came back to retail 2 weeks ago after years off. What is my best way to get into some mythic raids outside of joining a guild? I’m 622 ilvl with a few timed 10’s and 7/8 heroic in raid from pugging

[spice spire]

Guild is the primary way.
Outside of that check for pugs

[subtle tundra]

pretty hard to without any experience

[spice spire]

But mythic pugs are rough

[subtle tundra]

he wont get invited to begin with

tbh

people are probably very strict by now

[humble cradle]

Yeah that’s my concern. Maybe I can get into a pug doing just like first and 2nd boss mythic and go from there?

[novel star]

i joined a guild with no mythic xp at the start of the tier

at this point you prolly want pug parses tho yeah

[subtle tundra]

first 4 bosses are "easy"(for mythic standards, very easy)

[severe sparrow]

even if you get 1 or 2 mythic bosses down in a pug gl getting far in since the lockouts are the way they are

[novel star]

varas how do u feel about my take that rashanan is the easiest of the 4

[bright timber]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[novel star]

mechanically

[subtle tundra]

my take is that its irrelevant content to me considering how easy it is

[novel star]

Ok based

[severe sparrow]

idk i feel like the one with the pools and the ghosts is easier maybe

[humble cradle]

Maybe I try the sympathy card. Had to do that to get invited to my first 10’s.

[severe sparrow]

im so bad at names

[subtle tundra]

though i hate seeing alts with mythic very rare loot

[severe sparrow]

the one before it

[subtle tundra]

and i have none

[humble cradle]

Are there server discords in retail or just well known pug raid discords?

[subtle tundra]

if i had a 2nd rogue that i actively geared aswell it would probably have been better geared than my main by now

cause of neck and back

[severe sparrow]

idk if they do raids but there's that uh

warcraft made easy or whatever?

[glad osprey]

Question guys

[severe sparrow]

wow made easy*

[glad osprey]

Why is the spyglass bis if it’s A tier for trinkets

[normal mist]

SIM

[glad osprey]

Wouldn’t you be better running with sac brood

[subtle tundra]

my fucking cock bis trinkets

[cobalt sphinx]

sac brood sucks

[novel star]

tier list and bis are both fake

stop looking at them

[glad osprey]

what are the best trinkets to get then?

[novel star]

they don’t matter

[cobalt sphinx]

whatever shows up in your vault they're all the same

[severe sparrow]

fuck me dudes i somehow never updated my key build

[subtle tundra]

arakara has haste stat -> worse for m+
spyglass has crit proc -> better stat for m+

[novel star]

there’s like 6 passive trinkets that are all good

[severe sparrow]

still using the old one

[novel star]

just sim em

[trail locust]

I think tierlists are good

[novel star]

you cant target farm myth trinkets and any myth passive will beat a hero passive generally

[subtle tundra]

ill touch you

[spice spire]

I’m going to kiss you on the lips bud

[novel star]

so like

just sim

[spice spire]

That was a wild back to back

Ngl

[cobalt sphinx]

tier lists are good for people who need an answer in under 10 seconds

[subtle tundra]

im on a streak today

[glad osprey]

yeah I finally got skardyns which made me get rid of my champion 603 treacherous but like

[cobalt sphinx]

which is a lot of people

[spice spire]

Kreem is just being mischievous

[cobalt sphinx]

most people

[glad osprey]

Idk what to get for my 2nd one

[severe sparrow]

why do you need an answer under 10s

[cobalt sphinx]

because you don't care any more than that

[still sky]

I pulled a fuckin myth skardyn today and my sims still look like this

[glad osprey]

yeah I don’t want to sim every trinket individually especially since it’s very situation based

[subtle tundra]

yes transmitter sims better than skardyn

[spice spire]

Honestly whichever you get and sims the best.
Not really anything to target, crystal, knife, spyglass, and Sa brood are all fine options

You run those

[glad osprey]

I just want one that would complement skardyns well

[subtle tundra]

sims dont always translate

[spice spire]

And if you get it sim it and see

Those listed + mandate work well

But mandate is a double on use

And Ik people aren’t a fan

[glad osprey]

Transmitter is situation based, sometimes you can’t even proc it

[still sky]

Let me upgrade all my trinkets to 623 for free so I’m happy

[trail locust]

If I start playing rogue will you coach me

[subtle tundra]

.tv/varras

pushing

[trail locust]

What score are you?

[severe sparrow]

i hate mandate in keys

[subtle tundra]

3270 or smth

just started pushing this week

[trail locust]

Oh nvm then

[still sky]

What do you mean? It’s on use

[trail locust]

Thought you were higher

[subtle tundra]

bro my team 1 banged 15 siege

[glad osprey]

It requires you to collect things

[novel star]

noobo

[severe sparrow]

it's nice for boss dam but i feel like i scuff it on trash trying to clip the effect

[glad osprey]

It’s random, there’s 3 scenarios

[spice spire]

They mean that you can’t move to certain places etc

[spice spire]

Call me 15 siege

[still sky]

I know, I have it. It’s pretty easy

[glad osprey]

Yeah like sometimes it will spawn inside an LOS etc

[subtle tundra]

my team had 10 siege highest key -> go in 15 siege time it, first try

[novel star]

Hey 15 siege

[spice spire]

Hey bud

[still sky]

You can position the spawns

[novel star]

you good today ?

how’s life

[glad osprey]

I’ve used it for 3 weeks, I’m not saying it’s bad, it’s just I had to replace it since mine was a champion one

[spice spire]

And if you have to collect in big thick worm boss pool in mists

[trail locust]

Yeah maybe i can ask someone else tho

[spice spire]

That’s what they’re saying

[glad osprey]

but in high keys etc you have situations where sometimes you can’t proc it

[subtle tundra]

just wait

youll see

[spice spire]

I am mentally in Illinois every day

[subtle tundra]

😉

[glad osprey]

so it will sim better but in actual scenarios you can’t play it perfectly

[spice spire]

Been chilling

Work etc

[trail locust]

Nah dw about it

[still sky]

The orb and platform always spawn to the front right of your facing position. Makes it easy to keep them out of bad stuff

[trail locust]

You need to probably focus on yourself

[subtle tundra]

i dont play 16hrs a day like the other pushers

mb

[balmy condor]

be a lot cooler if you did

[trail locust]

Yeah dont worry about it

[subtle tundra]

no? the guy that does it has zero cool

[trail locust]

Actually have to ask zerocool to help me

[subtle tundra]

13 score more than me..

[spice spire]

Brother you need Jesus to help you

[subtle tundra]

im in shambles

[tropic dove]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[trail locust]

I mean having a full time team and cant beat puglord zerocool

[subtle tundra]

yea

im just

dog

gg

[trail locust]

Some have to be

Its alrgiht

[gloomy heart]

people play supercharger in m+?

[subtle tundra]

behind every shining star is another left in the shadow

[severe sparrow]

i have been cuz i never changed off it

[trail locust]

Yeah you can be shadow star

[balmy condor]

generally subterfuge

but if you hate subterfuge for some reason then like

yolo

supercharger is fine

[gloomy heart]

yeah saw some low rogue playing it so i assumed its eh

i like subter

[spice spire]

@trail locust wdym you need help you have a top ten m+ rogue in the world in your guild

Hello

[balmy condor]

technically depending on the rest of his talents it could actually just be better

[trail locust]

Yeah maybe actually should ask speed

[balmy condor]

but yeh in pugs and stuff with iron wire

subt

etc

[tired gull]

feels bad having every slot hero track and still have a veteran skardyn's

[limber swallow]

Imagine having Skardyn's....

[spice spire]

Nah it’s some rogue named tomelvis

Idk never heard of him tbh

[subtle tundra]

da frenchie...

[tired gull]

true, i suppose i should count my blessings

[trail locust]

Oh but he mostly plays outlaw

[keen spruce]

i still play supercharger

[subtle tundra]

yea a bit of a Loser

[spice spire]

Yeah but he’s higher io than zerocool and varas

[keen spruce]

i don't notice a meaningful difference wit hsubterfuge

[spice spire]

So clearly he’d know more

[keen spruce]

but idk

[spice spire]

Hello

[subtle tundra]

youll see youll see

[severe sparrow]

i feel like i still have subterfuge ptsd from playing outlaw and fucking crackshot windows

[subtle tundra]

this week is rio injection

[keen spruce]

i'm just a duck

[subtle tundra]

ill be eating 16s

16cms

[spice spire]

Dog?

[plucky fable]

Hello, I have a question, 2.6% upgrade for the main weapon is worth it (?

[subtle tundra]

woof

[snow kindle]

so we dont run lethality anymore?

[severe sparrow]

a 2.6% upgrade sounds good lol, but worth vs what?

[plucky fable]

vs not having the upgrade xD

[arctic socket]

Did you like my meow?

[severe sparrow]

[trail locust]

But speed is number 2

[spice spire]

Yeah but you have to pay one and the other you just promise a farm kill to hello

Ur thinking too hard on this one, cost vs gains

[trail locust]

Surely he can help a guildie out

[spice spire]

What I’m saying

[trail locust]

Maybe not

[plain basin]

Hello guys im new as assa and i have a little issu for the mono im always low energy do you know why ?

[spice spire]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[plucky fable]

I ask cz need to craft that weap, and idk if worth to spend gold for that % :c

[plain basin]

Ok so instead of spaming i have to focus on envenom only

only generate combo and spend into envenom

[subtle tundra]

he doesnt help plebs

[severe sparrow]

I would, but Im not worried about gold too much so that's up to you, the content you play, and your finances

[thorn crater]

uhm

does electrified dagger work with our nature dmg thiings?

[spice spire]

No

[rancid bloom]

Ladies and gentelmens, after 29 runs, Skardyn's Grace dropped

[spice spire]

BLESS

[trail locust]

Well now im triggered:(

[thorn crater]

hhas someone baited zerocool in farming keys for the bleed and nature dagger?

[stark scroll]

huh

which one

[rancid bloom]

should i upgrade it or wait weekly?

[torpid linden]

how many runs of GB does it take for me to be able to complain about not having the trinket

[stark scroll]

grats on neck

[arctic socket]

Cool necklace

[balmy condor]

50ish averrage I think

[torpid linden]

I'm almost there

[balmy condor]

my loot council gave me a myth transmitter

so I'm free

I guess

[thorn crater]

barman shanker

[novel star]

when boss die

yesterday?

[balmy condor]

yesterday

[stark scroll]

hahaha

[novel star]

gz goat

have fun on the silken court

[stark scroll]

If only I could get mythic track

[balmy condor]

reclear first

[novel star]

yeh

but

[stark scroll]

hi whispyr

[novel star]

still

[balmy condor]

hello

[novel star]

surely kyveza isn’t a reprog boss

one tap today

[thorn crater]

hes talkin about offhand for raid for the eff

i dno man

[copper shore]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[balmy condor]

yeah surely one tap

[stark scroll]

Yeah but you cant get it at a high ilvl

[thorn crater]

i mean 626

ilvl doesnt matter on offhand no?

[slim pebble]

Oh shit that is real good neck

[stark scroll]

whats better a kukri and a regicide at 636 or a kukri and a barman shanker

[balmy condor]

I mean it matters, it just matters less

[novel star]

it matters for stats

[arctic socket]

It is yes

[balmy condor]

cause it's a bad slot

[stark scroll]

stat stick

[spice spire]

Offhand dps isn’t huge.
The big thing is if it cantrips and would work with our stuff it’s good

[stark scroll]

I am waiting for mythic blackrock

[balmy condor]

the same way that like, wrist ilvl doesn't matter compared to chest or leg

[arctic socket]

Now you’re stuck in transmitter hell

[balmy condor]

like wrist ilvl is still good

[arctic socket]

Would rather be stuck with gb hell

[balmy condor]

it's just bad compared to bigger slots

[arctic socket]

Ngl

[thorn crater]

the thing is, does a dmg proc supercede the secondaries? normally i would say no but if ure really high on stats already... i dno honestly no idea guess its somethhing to sim

[balmy condor]

generally not on assa unless it's like within 5ish ilvl

[novel star]

it depends on the proc i think, for the brd ones no they all suck

[balmy condor]

yeh

[novel star]

[spice spire]

Any edge of night fans in chat

[thorn crater]

guuess he got baited then lul

[novel star]

i like to do it in the morning

[spice spire]

Huh

[novel star]

Nothing goat

[spice spire]

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

MDI brainrot

[spice spire]

Tbf first pull of necrotic is usually a bit of a thiccy

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

But that’s a uh classic

[arctic socket]

Lmao

[keen spruce]

I wipe to the first pull of sv about 10x more than NW

[novel star]

cot first pull can be scary too

lots of first pull bricks

[spice spire]

Pants are brown never wiped a day in my life

[waxen oyster]

real

[novel star]

alright man

[keen spruce]

so real for that

stay stinky

[spice spire]

I do my best big dog

https://tenor.com/view/deer-interview-it-goes-without-saying-gif-12669775144079688963

[keen spruce]

imagine wiping when you're just gonna poo again

[waxen oyster]

Why do people even

[keen spruce]

[waxen oyster]

pull that big

[spice spire]

So the big pull I’m thinking of is first bit plus the right pack by spear plus 2 pats, plus gatekeeper + pack in middle

[cobalt sphinx]

it's fun

[spice spire]

Right

[limber coral]

would CT be decent of a pick to get instead of DB and SBS for brood?

[cobalt sphinx]

i did like 15m on my lock on that pull in wake

[spice spire]

You just pop two survival CDs

And laugh because it’s pretty easily managed

[waxen oyster]

Yeah I mean

the guy could have jus

popped meta

[spice spire]

Yeah

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

If you’re not popping CDs you’re an idiot

And demon spikes alone ain’t it

[waxen oyster]

probs died mid fel dev

[spice spire]

Absolutely not

[waxen oyster]

while they were grouping

or you know the vdh special

of leaping into a pack which causes all the auto swings to sync together

[keen spruce]

that's teh defaulter

[spice spire]

Middle plus stage is a wild drag

Plus a lot of kicks wasted on just moving the one caster to prevent him from fucking the pull up solo

[keen spruce]

dk yoinks

[cobalt sphinx]

stage isnt in the route

[spice spire]

And If no dk

[keen spruce]

also no stage

[spice spire]

Oh

That’s just the Pat

[keen spruce]

man hasn't looked at MDT since his name was green smh

[spice spire]

Oh yeah that’s fine

[cobalt sphinx]

just a bunch of pats that will pull anywya

[spice spire]

Yeah

[sudden swan]

Do we have any strong feelings about red vs blue on silken? My team is about to get there, and it seems like the normal strategy lets blue melee funnel off scarabs more but idk much of a difference it makes.

[spice spire]

I thought that was back stage

[empty tide]

you guys playing radiant power on raid? siming a little more for me on st than depths

[spice spire]

Then sure.
Difference is super minimal

[empty tide]

ye its like 3k more

[spice spire]

Yeah that’s honestly a milder pull than I’ve seen @keen spruce

[keen spruce]

i mean anything more than that seems a little overkill

cuz you need a CD pull anyways

after

[warm vortex]

First time i got a good aug :D

[keen spruce]

i think that's mostly you

lizard shadow bar lookin a little sussy

[warm vortex]

Maybe idk

havent hit 2 mil yet

and i did

[keen spruce]

[warm vortex]

Acc lemmie get the dmg breakdown

i think i still did bad w my splatter

[severe sparrow]

Did they ever make details be able to estimate aug or is the shadow bar still just like a fixed amount slapped on?

[warm vortex]

Like it was still just above CT

[iron valve]

no, shadow bar is a loose estimate
it's like buff uptime * target's dps * some fixed percent

[warm vortex]

was a 10NW for ref

I think i got an89 parse or summin

[spice spire]

Parse is time not dam

[hollow river]

[keen spruce]

pretty lose estimate

[warm vortex]

Acc damage graph is ok

[hollow river]

i got so lucky that season

[warm vortex]

A bit more caustic

most likely

[severe sparrow]

I got a sick parse in a key the other day cuz i got carried by my friend's 2 large man friends

[warm vortex]

but still

[hollow river]

2 mythic Edge of Nights

brrr

[keen spruce]

but it should be like within ~20% of your DPS if the aug is good iirc. also depends if they're playing scale commander or simp lizard

[severe sparrow]

I was trash compared to them

[merry bison]

Ladies with gentlehands, if anyone needs a log review @spice spire is your men, he‘ll be absolutely grateful to review and improve your logs! Big up for Quake !

[spice spire]

Why tho

[thorn crater]

sim is asking me to drop MA for sanguine

for m+

[severe sparrow]

I'm too soft for log reviews thanks, I'd probably cry

[thorn crater]

is that a thing now?

[trail locust]

Exsanguinate?

[thorn crater]

XD

[spice spire]

Sanguine blades

So yes

[hollow river]

these?

there's something weird about this rogue

[merry bison]

Wdym, u said i loved it !

[warm vortex]

Anything else that should be diffrent here btw

[spice spire]

Going to eat ur ass pt 2

[thorn crater]

oh we dont play MA anymore? nerfs too hard?

[spice spire]

I love helping others

[hollow river]

(that's a Druid)

[trail locust]

Can you log review my windwalker?

[spice spire]

No MA offsets some ST. That’s why we run.

[trail locust]

There was no spec mentioned

[spice spire]

Probably but I’d rather jerk off with a cheese grater than look at WW logs

[trail locust]

Wtf

[hollow river]

o.o

[trail locust]

Ww is not that bad ok

[spice spire]

Oh WW is chill

I just don’t have the knowledge

And learning a spec to review a spec

[merry bison]

That is pin worthy

[spice spire]

Is uh

An extra layer of

I don’t wanna do that

[trail locust]

Just prepare the grater then

[spice spire]

On it king dw

[deep gyro]

!tricks

[merry bison]

Send a snap when u grate it

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[spice spire]

Nah no one gets the meat pics

[merry bison]

[thorn crater]

im sorry english hard, i dont understand what you mean

:S

[spice spire]

No you’re good

So our main weakness in m+, it’s single target right

[trail locust]

I give you ww coaching if you snap me

[spice spire]

In single target (especially with Without a trace having extra vanishes) master assassin provides a bit more st

[slim pebble]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

Just don’t press the same button twice in a row ex

[trail locust]

Eksdee

[thorn crater]

yes but that would mean you will have kept vanish for the boss fight instead of commiting it anywhere else.

oh so we swap to without a trace?

[spice spire]

Check the wh build and try that in sim 🙂

[trail locust]

Thats it im making a rouge

[spice spire]

Need viklund to teach me spriest (I’m actually an idiot)

[thorn crater]

wh?

[spice spire]

Wowhead

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[thorn crater]

oh it was changed?!

[spice spire]

Yeah

[thorn crater]

huh

[spice spire]

Last week iirc

[thorn crater]

my bad

[spice spire]

No worries

[trail locust]

Can i look at method guide

[spice spire]

How are you supposed to know everything

[spice spire]

Probably

Same writer

Idk how recently he’s changed

[thorn crater]

oh shit

[trail locust]

Ok i give up then

[thorn crater]

we ditched lethality?

no double dippin no party huh

[slim pebble]

Wait the wowhead build changed

[spice spire]

Ye

[spice spire]

We’re double vanishers now

It took some getting used to

But it’s kind of juicy

If you’re not bad (I’m very bad)

[slim pebble]

Unless im being trolled that isnt currently on wowhead

[thorn crater]

i guess we hold one charge

[trail locust]

Wait zerocool was right

[thorn crater]

btw @balmy condor you have the recommended builds to without a trace but you still have this in text "On the damaging side, Without a Trace is a huge DPS loss of multiple percent and is never recommended." not sure if intentional

[slim pebble]

Unless you were discussing the m+ build with double vanish

But also raid ST changed too and I didnt know

[thorn crater]

HUH

should pay more attention to guides i alwasy go to see if there is a new pin

if not i move on with my day lol

[cobalt sphinx]

we are supercharging now

[spice spire]

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAzixsNDAAAAAAttNzMYmxYmZWmlxYwMzYGMzMbbLjZA2MLDMglglhJwwyA

That’s the recommend m+ build - shit internet isn’t loading

[spice spire]

Oh hell yeah

We’re changed again

Love it

[thorn crater]

lethality is gone huh

gone gone

[slim pebble]

I think I misunderstood, just uploaded the new wowhead build for m+, but..... raid build now does 2/2 supercharger AND forced induction?

[spice spire]

Oh

[faint vessel]

supercharger raid single, and Without a trace M+, neat

[thorn crater]

i feel like there should have been a mention somehwere

but i aint complaining

ty for this mate

would not have noticed on my own

@spice spire soooo https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/myZkwcvEmyBv3FgFZAqEk6

[fair stirrup]

also, ppl might sim higher fatebound vs. deathstalker for ST

[coral ibex]

why are you simming with full raid buffs in dslice

[thorn crater]

does it even matter

[snow kindle]

is supercharger suppose to be a buff where would i see it

[spice spire]

It doesn’t

[thorn crater]

sooo am i supposed to ditch SBS now we got double vanish? and ruun SD?

[spice spire]

Truthfully there’s like 6 builds that are good. Should play around and figure the best out

[balmy condor]

okay liar

[spice spire]

Ik I am a liar

[balmy condor]

there's way more than 6 you rat

[coral ibex]

wouldn't having extra stats affect the sim?