assassination

[devout lantern]

the m+ build changed again?

every mdfcker playin with a different build

[dawn heath]

alot of viable shit

[oak tangle]

never been any different

the whole of DF was the same

[dawn heath]

bottomline is

whatever u play is within 1-2% of the other specs assuming u dont play complete troll talents

i like to take subterfuge in the duengons i play ironwire otherwise i dont play subterfuge at all

[dense hamlet]

yeah not sure if this is just lag or whats happening

[dawn heath]

but u can see the mobs are acting real sus

the animations of the autos in the start looks really off

visual of his aoe is off too

[dense hamlet]

ye ive seen this happen in dawnbreaker also

stuff are just desynced

or im just not even remembering what they used to look like or what looks right

[dawn heath]

im suprised

we timed the key

when i played with this shit

[dense hamlet]

thats a W

we take that

[dawn heath]

frfr

[gray flower]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[foggy juniper]

I play iw on only half of them

[dawn heath]

when u get into 15s-16s its helpful not to play wire in the duengons u dont need it as its a quite considerable dmg gain

and u will need the dps

i think

[foggy juniper]

Yep

[dawn heath]

SV-GB-NW u need to take wire

others u can skip

[foggy juniper]

Cot, dawn, siege and mist

[dawn heath]

u can maybe skip in NW but its helpful to vanish on 2nd boss

depends on ur comp

[foggy juniper]

Yeah

Ara too

[round fjord]

Guys there any reason why not use 2 639ilvl dagger instead of crafted one, 2x dusktrehad on offpiece still worst

[foggy juniper]

Iw useless

Imo

[dawn heath]

y

its never useless but

u rather pick damage

its always good for controlling casters

and making tank take less dmg

[foggy juniper]

Casual posted such a weird buils

[dawn heath]

i played it in my siege i think

[foggy juniper]

I cant see that working on my monkey brain

No MA, no sub, just ahhh

[dawn heath]

tried it in this key

[foggy juniper]

Enjoyed it?

[dawn heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103960660527816746/1303138925153488986/image.png?ex=672aaa32&is=672958b2&hm=a0c4a3519a0c3be4360bb6dd9629453520b6cc7ff32ee65515e5306fafce7fd9&

it wasnt bad

[dapper cradle]

[dawn heath]

my team mates were abit sus though

it was their first 15 a

all of them

its slightly better on ST

but nothing major

u wont do any crazy damage with it still

[foggy juniper]

Idk, I like sub too much and started enjoying WaT since pugs and weird tanks

Fucking hate tanks that run when a mob has 5m health

Ffs

[dawn heath]

ye

tanks chain all the time in high keys

[dapper cradle]

i'm starting to get the sub ST rhythm

[dawn heath]

cause its so ineffiicient to finish mobs

[dapper cradle]

but sub in keys idk man

[dawn heath]

it feels really bad not to get a restealth but honestly u do damage regardless

its abit of a situation basis

i always try to hit the highest hp targets to make sure they die evenly

u can control that

[foggy juniper]

I mean, I don't mind chaining

But running with ONE MOB with 5m health

[dawn heath]

if all mobs are close in HP then it makes sense to complete the pack

[foggy juniper]

That isn't chaining

[dawn heath]

ye

[foggy juniper]

That's annoying

[dawn heath]

if its 5mil

u can actually solo it

and get restealth

[foggy juniper]

Depends on the next pull

:/

[junior isle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[worn tulip]

what should be first assassin rogue upgrade with gilded harbinger crest

[drifting cloud]

dagger craft

[worn tulip]

siphoning stiletto?

does it take over for regicide or blood kissed

[spice surge]

No

A regular agility dagger

[spice surge]

If you have a mythic one of those then upgrade that for your mainhand instead of crafting

[slate crown]

Anyone know , is there a way to take a log on wcl and download the raw log file? I want to be able to see order of events of different types directly

[spice surge]

If only hc then dont

[worn tulip]

hero for both

[unborn wharf]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[gloomy heart]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[loud trench]

with woat are we just vanish every KB now?

[slate crown]

not how it works

WaT = 2 charges, they still have 2 min cd

[loud trench]

ty

what is the optimal play with 2 charges rn

[real onyx]

hey, kinda stupid q but its hard to get an aswer

so is evasion basically just melee and ranged shots

and clock for all aoe and

well like a firebolt for eg

[oak tangle]

they really should make them cd independantly

[real onyx]

idk which ones to use, most of the time i pop cloak when there's an aoe i cant dodge

[oak tangle]

cloak is magic damage, evasion is for the most part direct damage physical

there are edge cases for both

[real onyx]

ok ty, is we use cloak in a one shot aoe

does it legit just

negate all dmg?

[oak tangle]

if the aoe is physical, cloak will do nothing

[severe sparrow]

if it's purple it's probably cloak, if it's brown it's probably evasion. does it sound magic? probably cloak. does it sound like a physical attack? probs evasion

[real onyx]

gotcha

sick ty guys

[oak tangle]

first attempt at mythic last night, im embarrassed

died in execute on sikran 😦

[buoyant mortar]

Hey, you're better than like 40% of people out there that have attempted mythic. You should be happy your probably at least in the top 10% of all players but probably closer to 1%.

[keen spruce]

boss died

that means u did enough dmg

[oak tangle]

yerp, i got a dagger off bloodbound

pogo

[keen spruce]

me too

mine had avoidance

so i'm more handsome than u

[oak tangle]

no myth dags in vault, so when i get the crests there's a 3 ilvl upgrade in mainhand

[keen spruce]

big

what's your toons name?

[oak tangle]

mèmz

[keen spruce]

i wanna investigate

[oak tangle]

frostmourne

[keen spruce]

oh u were 2nd on your team

bruh your parses don't matter

when you entire raid is grey parsing

u did gud

[oak tangle]

yeah not bad, it was first time for all in there, not my guild, but me and a couple friends filled in (friends guild)

[keen spruce]

i love mercenary raiding

no expectations

just show up and pump

[oak tangle]

i wish i knew how to do damage on first boss

pump the boss dam, but couldnt pad

[keen spruce]

why

do i have more ilvl than you

[drifting cloud]

have better gear, dont take 9min to kill bos

profit

[coral ibex]

yea kill time is big

[keen spruce]

yeah on 1st boss you just go full ST and pray you don't too many intermissions

[coral ibex]

also getting good add pad

[oak tangle]

what you mean?

[keen spruce]

i've only had 2 vaults

are you crest capped?

[oak tangle]

not yet, i've slacked off on keys once we got aotc

[keen spruce]

oh ic ic

[hushed elbow]

is it possoible to get 100% uptime

or is that a meme

[runic hinge]

you're a degen

[keen spruce]

i'm a casual

i'm for the delves

i'll have you know

i levelled my herbalism today

[balmy condor]

I mean rup/gar will never say 100% because your first gcd is always ambush and so you’ll never truly be at 100%

[keen spruce]

open world content

[hushed elbow]

so the time in between ambush and rupture counts as downtime?

[drifting cloud]

well yeah its combat time

[balmy condor]

It’s time that you are in combat without a rupture

So yes

That counts as not having rupture up

[hushed elbow]

got it

[keen spruce]

it's okay you're parsing golf

[hushed elbow]

thanks yall

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

I wasss in florida all week

[peak gull]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

M+ gamers make me sick

[keen spruce]

mini game fun

[runic hinge]

it's fun with friends, but i dont have those

[keen spruce]

at least i'm not asking you if i should drop IW or which version of subterfuge i should take

[pure raptor]

!Tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

I see you’re also in Illinois

[keen spruce]

am i missing lore

[drifting cloud]

the mental kind

[balmy condor]

He’s mentally Illinois

Like the state

The state of mind if you may

[keen spruce]

yes

this is accurate

i have mental illinois

[blazing pumice]

a friend of mine told me that bad players raid because they can hide how bad they are in the crowd, is that true

[runic hinge]

with how everyone parse watches these days? not likely

[peak gull]

Im making a script to change the plater purple when I have deathstalkers on the target and it works but I dont know how to make it revert to its normal color once it falls off, does anyone know how to do it?

[blazing pumice]

https://wago.io/398Lv0cuq/5 use this bigdog

[spice spire]

Parse doesn’t mean good player fwiw

[runic hinge]

That's true but it's harder to hide if you don't know how to play and also can't or won't do mechanics

[peak gull]

thanks homie

[blazing pumice]

i've been meaning to add deathstalkers mark to that mix

[runic hinge]

I think the idea you could play badly and fuck up mechanics in raid was true back in the day cause you'd just pull until the baddie didn't get the mechanic and you'd eventually kill the boss but now if you grey parse and fuck up mechanics people are more likely to call you out

[amber brook]

I parsed even worse than that

[coral ibex]

its true that sometimes good players get bad parses but its much rarer that actually bad players get good parses

you really can't freestyle and get a good log, and you'll get called out for it

[amber brook]

Im just dogwater

[peak gull]

do you know the spell id for the deathstalkers debuff?

[blazing pumice]

457157

[spice spire]

Same bestie

[blazing pumice]

i actually can't figure out why i can't get ds working though

[peak gull]

hmmm cant get it to change colors

yeah same

[blazing pumice]

457129

that one works

[sand briar]

can you vanish mechanics like in classic wow?

[blazing pumice]

some yes

[peak gull]

457129

[blazing pumice]

some will cancel, others will recast on someone else

[peak gull]

oh you beat me to it haha

[ember mural]

you keep saying youre in illinois but you never visit

[worn tulip]

thanks for the help new dagger rips

[cunning needle]

yeah this is why i stopped pushing m+ and only raid.

[dawn heath]

I want myth track trinkets in vault this week otherwise its socket time

Still missing 3 sockets

[past bobcat]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gloomy heart]

can anyone dm me their details of a decent key, i wanna see the breakdown difference from mine please

[tough canyon]

well depends i dont play mythic+ beacause keys below 13 are boaring af and packs die way to fast and getting into groups isnt worth the effort as dps

[oak tangle]

mists 10 1.46m dps

[gloomy heart]

ilvl?

[oak tangle]

627

[tough canyon]

did you pull pack by pack? seems just a bit low

[oak tangle]

this is a scuffed key, but the only one on my details

[tough canyon]

ah

[static glacier]

probably a wipe on a boss

i'd imagine

[oak tangle]

we had no lust in group

[static glacier]

owch

[oak tangle]

and if i recall yeah we wiped on guessing game

[blazing pumice]

ct is low in that breakdown

not a good representation

[static glacier]

ct isn't amazing in mists tbh

esp if they were lustless

bosses probably took forever

[oak tangle]

we used drums

but yeah

[blazing pumice]

it gets use on first and third boss

it should be higher

[static glacier]

anyways no point shaming memz, he knows it's lower than the 1.7-2.x we'd expect

[oak tangle]

woah woah woah

haha

[static glacier]

might be a hot take, overall is not a measure of the quality of player in a key

I do good on overall, im a wack m+ player all things considered

[amber brook]

Once you join one mythic raid you cant join another?

[oak tangle]

if it helps gauge my skill in m+, i average about 1.5m in a grim

[gloomy heart]

I just asked because i’m learning m+

[static glacier]

grim is a very consistent 1.8-2m for me

[oak tangle]

only when you accept lockout, which is by either killing a boss, or joining a raid that has killed one

[static glacier]

rarely deviate

though I am 631

[amber brook]

Killed first boss and left the grp, So that means im locked huh

unlucky

[gloomy heart]

My breakdowns is horrible if anyone wants to see what i’m doing wrong i can link my vod of a 7

[tough canyon]

if the tank doesnt sleep while walking 😂

[oak tangle]

you'll have a rough time on a tyranical 7

mobs don't last long enough for half our casts to get value

[gloomy heart]

So i shouldn’t stress about it yet?

[oak tangle]

unless you are less than tank damage, probs not

[gloomy heart]

im not, doing 850-1mil spending on dungeon

[patent gust]

How strong is the rare queen ring for us

[oak tangle]

ilvl?

[tough canyon]

kb+dm are kinda rip on most packs below 11/12 if your grp is decent

[gloomy heart]

607 now

[oak tangle]

you're cruising, dont stress!

[blazing pumice]

as strong as it is for everyone else lul

[static glacier]

play bleed build

just accelerate ur cds on highest hp mob in a pack ASAP

[gloomy heart]

Bleed build?

I’m fresh to assa pve, elaborate

[oak tangle]

plays into sudden demise, it offsets the mobs dying before our dots get full effect

[static glacier]

it's in the wowhead guide

[oak tangle]

bottom right most talent

[static glacier]

ideal for lower keyss

relies less on kingsbane

[gloomy heart]

I understand i can get my dots up and Burn cds on a bigger mob to aoe the rest

[static glacier]

most frequent issue I see is people not knowing how to accelerate their opener / cds

[gloomy heart]

wowhead is down

[static glacier]

and over-prioing greedy openers

[gloomy heart]

it says for me

so i can’t see

[oak tangle]

imagine if we still had the opener from pre snd

🤮

[static glacier]

with subt it's actually legitimate to open dm > kb > gar > rup > mut + ct

if the pack is dying giga fast

and you just want to get cds out

and yes, in any real key this opener is illegal

[gloomy heart]

Do you have this? Can’t check wowhead bc downtime

[static glacier]

but in low keys we have to switch up how we play if we want to keep topping overrall

[grim plover]

im playing 7 right now, and a pack is dead insta lol

[static glacier]

can probably switch sang blades or something else for rMA with subterfuge

[gloomy heart]

ty

[waxen oyster]

Yeah it basically takes the execute talents

while hybrid paths into amp poison and dtb

at 607 I'd say do some delves too

Ifyou get a ritual knife you are big chilling

[gloomy heart]

Yeah tried

I have a good vault for tomorrow

[waxen oyster]

🙏

hero knife is best passive outside of myth track proc trinkets

[torn mist]

Say Bismillah before opening vault

It increase the chance to drop a bis by 100%

[gloomy heart]

Any raid trinkets that are decent

[torn mist]

(I got Spymaster 1st week)

[waxen oyster]

transmitter if you dont have skardyn's

[torn mist]

There is nothing ig

[waxen oyster]

contract isnt bad but worse than most of the stat trinkets from m+

[oak tangle]

transmitter is close second to skardyns

if you dont have skardyns

[waxen oyster]

and mandate you just press outside your cds and hope it crits

[gloomy heart]

Other than top players, should i even grab rare items from raid? I think ring is okay but others im unsure of

I have a champion skardyns

[waxen oyster]

sikran neck is bis on st because it just has more stats than any other neck for its ilvl

but haste falls a bit behind on aoe

[oak tangle]

cloak will save ur butt in keys

[gloomy heart]

Okay i see, can i link my char in here? See what needs fixing

[oak tangle]

if you wish, but at 607. my honest answer is to just get ilvl

[gloomy heart]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/turalyon/mcglizzy

ik i need enchants

[waxen oyster]

the very rares also come at max ilvl

for their track

which would save you crests

[gloomy heart]

True

[waxen oyster]

If you pvp you can craft the pvp gear at 610

[oak tangle]

hit up that 8+ grind, to get yourself 90 crests, and then craft a 636 dagger

[waxen oyster]

the conquest pieces that is

[keen rover]

Should I be using all finishers at 7 combo pts?

[oak tangle]

no

[gloomy heart]

have like 50 gilded, was gonna
prayge i get hero dagger from raid and make my 619 one 636

[keen rover]

Ok. Haven't been. Been using at 5+ unless I have a darkest night

Heard ty

😛

[waxen oyster]

offhand is low prio

since it doesnt contribute much

[gloomy heart]

If i get the dagger from 2nd boss tomorrow ill make my 619 dagger higher and use that

Or farm the one from NW

[waxen oyster]

craft 636

and bug abuse offhand

[gloomy heart]

2 crafted daggers?

[waxen oyster]

to make that slot free

[oak tangle]

recraft your 619

[gloomy heart]

Yeah that’s what i’m saying

Wym bug abuse offhand

[waxen oyster]

recraft it again

[oak tangle]

the offhand does not matter, it's kinda lower prio than anything else

[waxen oyster]

game thinks they’re two different items

[gloomy heart]

So put it in mainhand recraft to 636 then put it in offhand and do it again

so i spend less crests when i get a dagger ?

[waxen oyster]

no just recraft it with diff stats or embellish

and relog

[gloomy heart]

Okay

Which dagger is bis

Raid one or NW

[oak tangle]

higher ilvl

[waxen oyster]

Any

[novel star]

bis doesnt matter

stats are all very close in value

just go max ilvl for agility

[oak tangle]

stats are like m&m's, they are all different colours, but they taste the same

[novel star]

^

[gloomy heart]

I’m just a minmaxer and i will just copy most top players

[waxen oyster]

if you get an ilvl increase

its going to be better

due to more agi

[gloomy heart]

Except rings and stuff

[novel star]

a real minmaxer knows that bis doesnt matter

and simming every single piece that drops

is the real answer

:3

[oak tangle]

ring ilvl gives you hp, underrated stat

[jaunty lotus]

Do we fok once in st after applying mark?

[novel star]

you are not minmaxing by prioritizing an item without knowing that that exact item is a dps increase for your specific gearset

[waxen oyster]

higher ilvl rings still give more stats

[gloomy heart]

i have a 590 ring and i got the 610 NW ring and simmed it and said my 590 was better

[waxen oyster]

also queen ring just has like an extra 1% damage proc

tacked on for free

[novel star]

without vicious venoms yes, so with all current raid and m+ builds yes

[novel star]

rings break the rule

but only rings

[waxen oyster]

socket on both?

[jaunty lotus]

Huh, I haven't been doing that

[novel star]

its a small gain

like 0.3% or something

[jaunty lotus]

Is that for Clear the witness?

[waxen oyster]

yes

[jaunty lotus]

Okay, will make a WA to remember it

Thank you

[waxen oyster]

personally i like to save my ctw

[amber brook]

Does heroic lockout differ from mythic?

[waxen oyster]

for if mut brings me to 5 or 6

with a dn proc

[waxen oyster]

You’re only loot locked on hc and normal

[amber brook]

Ahh explains

So mythic is pretty much oneshot or just host

[oak tangle]

raid lock = you can't join other groups
loot lock = you can't get loot from boss again

mythic is raid locked

[thin portal]

HEY SIN ROGUES

[oak tangle]

hi outlaw

[thin portal]

STOP HOGGING ALL THE KEYS

xD

[waxen oyster]

get more ilvl

[oak tangle]

BFA called, they said "it's time for revenge"

[amber brook]

that clears it up, ty

[thin portal]

[runic hinge]

[jaunty lotus]

Can't wait for classic bfa so we get to 3 outlaw again

[waxen oyster]

ryu back to the delve mines

with you

[thin portal]

bang bang

[waxen oyster]

i’ve done outlaw keys this season

[oak tangle]

does it have to be different?

[waxen oyster]

or diff embellish

[torn mist]

Cloak of Rashanan is good?

[rain wraith]

Yes

[torn mist]

Nice

[oak tangle]

1.25 ilvl till i hit the big 3 0

[slate crown]

30 ilvl is a pretty big deal. Proud of you!

[oak tangle]

XD

[jaunty lotus]

In case anyone is curious, crest discount from recrafting a dagger still works

[novel star]

[oak tangle]

this guy is being antithetical to his cause

[novel star]

?

oh

lmao

based

[oak tangle]

kinda wanna queue for the meme

[novel star]

notes coming up in search is so shit man

[jaunty lotus]

How else can you find that one "big Pampers only" note key

[misty torrent]

How big is the Seal of poisoned pact from a standard Scallywag ring?

I know Sim it, but how good does it feel? Does it have more interactions with our kit?

[oak tangle]

my understanding would be it works jsut like trinkets, where our abilities dont affect them

[blazing pumice]

again idk what feeling good means on a ring proc

since it doesn't change gameplay

it does some damage for free, it benefits other classes, it's not a big deal in aoe

[jade abyss]

short question about supercharger when its active we still finish with 5+ cp or with max cp?

[blazing pumice]

finisher rules don't change

[jade abyss]

gracias

[ashen bluff]

Morning! :D Checked pins and it doesn't seem to be anything about that, but when simming for m+, is dungeon slice appropriate for assassination? or is there a bettere more accurate option?

[blazing pumice]

yes

[ashen bluff]

im assuming yes to dungeon slice not to a better option

[blazing pumice]

yes to dslice

[ashen bluff]

Great thanks appreciate you!

[west crown]

I cant remember who mentioned it but what are we taking if we drop lethality for ST because of change

[static glacier]

middle capstone

Forced induction

not echoing reprimand

[manic pebble]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[warm vortex]

Tomorrows reset and I haven’t gotten a full M+ vault yet

[austere ridge]

With supercharger now do we basically shiv on cd?

Or use around burst phases?

[torn mist]

Anyone know this WA plz ? Its from Vspeed but i can't found it

[kindred hinge]

Look like the standard one Luxthos or afenar can't remember which is which

[cedar canopy]

not lux. i can say that for sure as i use lus

specifically the resources are flipped making me think afenar

[subtle tundra]

tomorro is reset and i have to do delves

[kindred hinge]

You would always shiv on cd from the moment you use it with KB /opener.

Supercharger doesn't change anything

[torn mist]

ok i found it, just have to be sub to his channel xd

to get his wa

[subtle tundra]

@balmy condor did you vote, king?

[cedar canopy]

Also, im new to rouge, and im learning the spec for the first time, but i have been runin into a problem when i run out of energy when not in aoe. ST i always seem to blow through me teas and end up oum. should i not be trying to fill out the GCD?

[kindred hinge]

Why though? Knife?

[subtle tundra]

yea knife...

.5% better than crystal in m+

[kindred hinge]

Fuck...

[subtle tundra]

😦

[kindred hinge]

Noooo

Why you tell me that

[torn mist]

crystal ? u mean the dawnbreaker trinket ?

[subtle tundra]

sucks 2 suck

[kindred hinge]

I have to rush my delves now

[subtle tundra]

just do 4

thats what ill do

i refuse to do 8

[kindred hinge]

And I curse myself to not have taken it week 1 now in vault

[torn mist]

imagine drop the knife when u have the map

[subtle tundra]

i had a map yesterday and i didnt

😦

[torn mist]

ouch

[kindred hinge]

Need to sim though, I have araka mythic rather than crystal.

[subtle tundra]

i wouldnt do delves then

theoretically i can also receive ovinax trinket but idk how good it is to play

[wise gull]

just did a 110 death +4 arakara with my friends who just started

[subtle tundra]

no

no

wtf

no

i actually dont need to do delves cause i have a mythic ansurek finger in vault

[grim tree]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[formal cliff]

Imagine the repair bill

[torn mist]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-its-over9000-gif-14419267

[unique plume]

What's the drop rate on maps

Do they drop more at higher tier?

[subtle tundra]

no idea i dont do delves

[misty torrent]

It’s not better to try and line up the big max combo point after using 3 finishers with shiv?

[oak tangle]

pls no one go depose me

[ripe bobcat]

Hey everyone. Short question: If we have our "Subterfuge" Window: Ambush or Mutilate as builder? I am a bit confused atm. Ambush seems right, but as I am watching streams noone uses it after breaking stealth 😄

[normal mist]

That LFR parse

(no judging, I have fun parsing normal)

[oak tangle]

lol, i wanted to get 99 across the baord

went into rashanan with exhaustion

and no stealth

95

😢

[warped shard]

at how many combo points do you guys usually envenom? 5+? or go full?

[oak tangle]

5+
unless supercharged
unless DN

[warped shard]

and do you use FOK to maintain clear the witness 32% crit damage buff?

or just whenever CTW procs?

on single target that is

[oak tangle]

what damage buff?

[warped shard]

when FOK crits you get 32% crit damage buff

[sinful scroll]

I think you only use it to apply your deathstalker's mark then carry on as usual

[warped shard]

Momentum of despair its called

[oak tangle]

oh, that is only a buff for fok

so no

[warped shard]

thats only crit damage for FOK? oooh.. thats weird

[blazing pumice]

and ct

[warped shard]

well screw that then 😛

thanks!

[ripe bobcat]

Ok, but the dmg of ambush is higher than mutilate. What makes mutilate better? Am I missing something?

[blazing pumice]

mutilate hits with both weapons

[sinful scroll]

^

[ripe bobcat]

Ah for applying possions etc?

[warped shard]

wait.. we never Ambush outside of applying mark?

[blazing pumice]

not unless you have blindside procs

[warped shard]

because im getting the procc all the time and i spend it on ambush

[oak tangle]

i do not know the numbers but it'll be negligible

[blazing pumice]

blindside you use

[sinful scroll]

yhh if you are using blindside then yes

[oak tangle]

blindside is good for energy management

[ripe bobcat]

I am mainly speaking about m+. sorry forgot that

[blazing pumice]

you aren't spamming it during subterrfuge

[ripe bobcat]

so m+: Ambush just for mark. got it 😄

[sinful scroll]

if blindside is not talented, use ambush to apply your mark and then forget about it

[ripe bobcat]

Thanks very much 🙂

[oak tangle]

really though, it is hardly worth thinking about

[ripe bobcat]

Yeah I played with ambush in the window and did good dmg. Than I looked at streamers which are better and recognized that they dont play like that, so I asked 😄

[oak tangle]

mut = 2-4 cp
amb = 2-3 cp

the difference is mut gives more kb stacks, and can give higher cp

[ripe bobcat]

❤️

[oak tangle]

but its very minimal

[ripe bobcat]

Will check it later in m+

[oak tangle]

in saying all this, we have freed up keybinds that you could have bothm ut and amb on your stealth bar

[quiet oar]

My button 4

will be empty

in rememberance

of ER

[warped shard]

that's why im doing.. i have Mut and Ambush both on "Q" depening on stealth status or blindside proc

[quiet oar]

RIP where ever you are ER

[warped shard]

so im spamming Q regardless.. if ambush is usable it will use it.. otherwise it use mut

[oak tangle]

my 5 key is empty, for SND

it doesn't get rememberence, im just too lazy to put anything there

[warped shard]

i've started using Mwheel up and Mwheel down both for feint.. and im surviving alot more 😛

[subtle tundra]

😒

sus

[oak tangle]

can't bind anything to mwheel, i need ot be able to zoom in for mog reasons

[coarse summit]

just checked my logs, and ive been doing this accidently aswell after we swapped to the subterfuge build...

[ripe bobcat]

😄

[coarse summit]

cus we didnt need a seperate button for mut in stealth before, so i was just pressing the same button

[ripe bobcat]

good i am not the only one 😄

[oak tangle]

i know this 'problem' exists, and i choose not to worry about it

i don't know the current sims, but back in DF it was literally like 0.1%

[ripe bobcat]

to be honest: Ambush applies mark. I liked in the sub window because U can change your target and swap the mark you know

[coarse summit]

its nice that you can apply dots first if your mark target isnt in range

like running to gatekeeper in nw first pull

[primal oasis]

Wait

If I run subterfuge I can't use the ambush / mut macro anymore?

[coarse summit]

its a tiny loss, you dont have to care about it

[ripe bobcat]

In sub my "stealth" row is active. so i need to put muti in

[spring stream]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
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Whispyr's Plater

[ripe bobcat]

Didnt know that u need a makro since blizz changed to "auto" switch on proccs

[coarse summit]

most annoying thing is that you want the macro for blindside builds, so i cant use shared action bars

[primal oasis]

Yeah but if u don't use a macro and you're in stealth then you need a button for mutilate and a separate one for mut

[coarse summit]

yup

[ripe bobcat]

can you show me the macro for that?

[primal oasis]

I'm trying to figure out why it's a loss

Ambush just does more dmg than mut right

So why is pressing ambush over mut bad

[coarse summit]

less combo points and dont think it applies doomblade

[cedar canopy]

First time Assassin, few questions. 1 in Single target should i be trying to constantly rolling GCD? when i do that i find myself out of energy a lot. i am maintaining bleeds on target with venomous wounds, but not generating the energy i need to keep pressin in Single target boss fights. haste is currently 5%. (probably low) but even with more haste is that normal? or should i stop pressing buttons to pool energy for burst windows instead?

[ripe bobcat]

that was my og question. The reason was both weapons hit + poison apply

[primal oasis]

I think there is a command for it somewhere

!ambush

[ripe bobcat]

yes energy pooling is key. If you get your burst window up soon, just pool

[primal oasis]

!mutilate

Uhm

[coarse summit]

doesnt it auto swap to ambush in stealth now

after the df changes

[ripe bobcat]

yes thats what i said 😄 ^^

[coarse summit]

think what you need is a macro to be able to mut

similar to the sinister strike macro outlaw uses

[ripe bobcat]

So now i need something like: cast Ambush once than use mutilate 😄

[coarse summit]

or 2 binds

[balmy prism]

Pooling is irrelevant more or less

[coarse summit]

did this in a key where mutilated flesh isnt applied for 24 sec, so im missing 2% dmg from lethal dose (so 4% in deathmark)

[ripe bobcat]

why?

[cedar canopy]

yes curious.

[ripe bobcat]

so mutilate is more valuable?

[oak tangle]

we are not gcd capped as a spec, we are energy capped. your aim outside cd's should be to manage envenom uptime, whislt not exceeding combo points or energy

[cedar canopy]

okay so i need to start tracking envenom. should i not be running out of energy when outside of cooldowns then?

[oak tangle]

you will slowly

[coarse summit]

yeah, most important scenarios are small pulls where you are triggering caustic spatter in subterfuge, and when vanishing in your cds

[oak tangle]

im not sure on the exact fight duration needed to cause it, but on shorter 2-3 min fights your teas will cover for you

[ripe bobcat]

I dont like the auto use of tea btw

😄

[coarse summit]

well if you dont pool at all you auto pop the teas early and run out

[cedar canopy]

yea the auto pop teas is what is getting me.

[coarse summit]

leads to no energy with kingsbane

[ripe bobcat]

I changed my WA so that my Energy turns deep red, when I am under 100energy 😄

[oak tangle]

i just have a weakaura on my energy bar, that sits at 85 energy, so i know when to wait to mutilate if i dont wanna use tea

[coarse summit]

thats good, i should do the same

[primal oasis]

I got tea macro'd to shiv for kingsbane

[thin widget]

They really could have made it a choice node imo, one is tea without auto-use and the other is tea + auto-use. Wouldve been a nice compromise

[ripe bobcat]

under 50% orange for the "Sanguine Blades" and under 100energy red for auto tea warning 😄

[primal oasis]

But I heard people say that assa doesn't pool anymore so idk how you're supposed to not auto use tea

[coarse summit]

no auto use is just better tho, so people wouldnt use it

[ripe bobcat]

true

[spice spire]

You don’t want this smoke

[primal oasis]

Right click toggle would be bis

But that's too much to implement for blizzard

Actual smoothbrains

[coarse summit]

tbf you get so much energy in st now

[oak tangle]

what i would like even more than tea, or auto use tea, IS ANOTHER FREAKIN TALENT THAT I CAN PICk

[coarse summit]

but its sometimes still needed

[primal oasis]

I'm mostly running out on st in m+

And I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be chaining envenoms at the last sec of buff running out like in season 2 DF

Or was it 3

[cedar canopy]

is this from bleeds, haste and venomous wounds? (i havent tried a ST raid build yet most of my problems arise so far in Dungeons)

just want to make sure im not missing a fundamental tech of the spec

[blazing pumice]

the m+ energy situation hasn't changed since before 11.0.5

[coarse summit]

im not 100 % sure, my guess would be dashing scoundrel + more poison procs cus of TTK

[oak tangle]

it's a combo of alot of things, we dont take vidious venoms, so mut is cheaper, we take ttk, so envenom lasts longer (easier to maintain uptime)

[blazing pumice]

it's only the raid build that doesn't have energy issues

[coarse summit]

wait not venomous wounds, whats the green energy on crit talent

we play now

[primal oasis]

I didn't play assa in m+ back then so wouldn't know tbh

[blazing pumice]

dashing scoundrel

[ripe bobcat]

what do you mean?

[coarse summit]

right dashing scoundrel

[cedar canopy]

oh i see. but TTK and Dashing scoundrel are not used in M+ builds i have seen yet. well i did see one that dalaran was playing but he dropped doom blade and bone spike to get ttk. also, who should i look to for learning assassin on youtube? any good content creators you all would recommend?

[normal mist]

Wowhead.com

[coarse summit]

should have clarified st talents, not st in keys

[normal mist]

Or Whispyr on youtube

[oak tangle]

ST in mythic plus is more of a struggle, but you are also ideally not doing bosses for more than 3 minutes so it's ok, on aoe you have infinite energy

[cedar canopy]

oh goo dpoint!

i didnt think of it like that.

[primal oasis]

Does usage of envenom differ in raid vs m+ on ST?

[cedar canopy]

TYVM!! this has been very helpfull understanding the spec

[oak tangle]

but there are m+ builds using ttk

[normal mist]

Not really

[warm vortex]

Morning Assa boys
We all doing good?

[normal mist]

I would be doing better if my work day was over

[primal oasis]

And should I be just chaining an envenom on the last second of buff running out on ST , and smashing envenom as soon as possible during CD's

[coarse summit]

yeah not bad, you?

[normal mist]

Other than that I'm pretty good

[warm vortex]

Won’t we all

[normal mist]

Yes

[warm vortex]

I’m ok
Been slacking on wow, only got 5/8 vaults rn

Idk if I’ve been burnt out but I’ve only got the 3 mythic slots instead of the 4. I get home late tonight but i should really try and jam 2 more 10s

[normal mist]

I usually enjoy being here

But not today

[warm vortex]

I think me getting the 13 overtime’s made me salty

[primal oasis]

I'm a bit confused on that front because guides don't seem to mention it anymore?

[warm vortex]

Was my first 13

[normal mist]

Mention what

[warm vortex]

Still malding because it was my key too

[oak tangle]

last second at least, it depends a bit on if you are taking ttk or not

[coarse summit]

brutal

[primal oasis]

How to play around envenom

[warm vortex]

TBF

[normal mist]

You play around envenom uptime

[primal oasis]

To pool or not to pool etc

[warm vortex]

My dps could have been better

[normal mist]

If you are in cds

[sinful scroll]

I was in a 12 DAWN yesterday and I did less damage than the tank. I was wondering why i could not get energy. Turns out my poisons faded away a while ago...

[normal mist]

You full send

[primal oasis]

Yeah kk I was doing it right then thx

[warm vortex]

Was ilevel 628
Should be doing like

1.8 tbh

[ripe bobcat]

Anlackyy

[warm vortex]

Doesn’t it like

Remind you every envenom

Lmao

[ripe bobcat]

you dont have a WA for that?

[normal mist]

It does yes

[sinful scroll]

this was on the last boss only off course

and yes, i have WA, but i was too tunnel visioned on staying alive

[warm vortex]

If you press an envenom it says like
“You don’t have a wound poisons or deadly poison equipped

Bro staying alive on the last boss is just pressing feint when it does aoe?

That’s it

And SS when you get the ring

[ripe bobcat]

I have a big warning on my playermodel when its around 5min. but i put new poisons on before every m+

[coarse summit]

did a db before swapping to subterfuge, and i accidently fucked up my vanish after flying down, so was just sitting there with no mark

[warm vortex]

Hate that
It’s worse for me in ST

[sinful scroll]

ma heart was racing man, ofc I know that xD

[warm vortex]

Like on queen if she had the mark after the pull in phase

And goes up

I’m just sad he

*sadge

[normal mist]

That's why I don't press vanish on queen

[warm vortex]

Yea but it sucks to have to use a vanish like that

And not for MA

[normal mist]

During p1 shield phase

[sinful scroll]

which WA is this. I only have clickable poison timers

[normal mist]

You're right. But better safe than sorry

[warm vortex]

It’s called world of Warcraft

It comes with the base game

XD

Base wow tells you if you don’t have one and envenom

[coarse summit]

it does?

[sinful scroll]

hmm never noticed

[coarse summit]

how?

[warm vortex]

Yea for Me at least

Only time I notice is when I go to test my rota and do the opener on a dummy then get the message

[ripe bobcat]

I most class WA´s there is a reminder

some are hidden options some are active by default

[coarse summit]

its an error message?

[willow rover]

How much of a dps difference is the icy veins vs wowhead M+ build? Wowhead uses masterassassin/2x vanish/subterfuge but whispyrs vid said he didnt recommend it but the guide recommends it im so confused

[coarse summit]

have those turned off

[warm vortex]

Hold on imma try and find it

Yea

Like if your out of range

The red text “out of range” pops up

On like the top ish of your screen

[coarse summit]

ok

[oak tangle]

nothing for me

[ripe bobcat]

you can try different builds. Master assa + double vanish etc. all works good

[primal oasis]

They changed subterfuge I believe

[sinful scroll]

i think I have those off, will check later thanks

[primal oasis]

He said double vanish wasn't worth it because subterfuge was useless

[warm vortex]

I can’t get it rn as I’m at uni

[primal oasis]

But I think it extends IC now or something

[warm vortex]

It does yes
Subterfuge is fucking massive

Now

[oak tangle]

it's MA

[warm vortex]

And personally I recommend WoT with sub

[ripe bobcat]

If u have a tank who doesnt pull rogue friendly, double vanish is very very good 😄

[warm vortex]

Nah if you have a tank double vanish is good

If you have buttons double vanish is good

[oak tangle]

subterfuge did not used to extend master assassin

it doesn ow

[warm vortex]

Ye

[willow rover]

So now with the subterfuge change, the wowhead build is probably the way to go and not icy veins?

[ripe bobcat]

yes it does. just check the time for MA without and than with sub

[primal oasis]

I've also seen a build that puts the point from double vanish into lethality

I think casualaddict was playing it

[ripe bobcat]

with sub you have 12 sec 20%. and double vanish makes 24 sec burst

if u need it

[oak tangle]

you would never need 24s

[ripe bobcat]

Have is better than need 😄

[oak tangle]

also double vanish would give you 36 s

[ripe bobcat]

even better 😄

[warm vortex]

24s I could MAYBE see used in like obnoxious pulls made by pug tanks
But I’ve never seen a 34sec one be needed but the point of double vanish isn’t to chain them

[ripe bobcat]

^^

[oak tangle]

it's more useful to just have a bank charge for iron wire / restealth

or certain mehcnics like roots

[willow rover]

Do I try and use both charges of vanish asap between packs to maximize the improved garrote/rupture dmg or should I hold 1 charge based on situations?

[oak tangle]

so there is a misnomer abotu how wat works

the charges are not cooldowning independantly

[warm vortex]

You don’t leave a trace

Simple

[oak tangle]

which means that once you've put both on cd, they effectively work the same as a single charge, if you press it on cd

[ripe bobcat]

if u are on his dc you can check his builds and choose which you like. Even He is still testing new builds. yesterday he tried one with forced indiction and st in m+ was great

[surreal adder]

any log expert able to explain how someone does 3 deathmark+6kb in a 4min window this patch?

[solar wyvern]

WoT is okay in like GB and Arakara. Everything else is w.e imo would rather 1 point sub 2x lethality personally

[warm vortex]

I’m confused by what you mean

[oak tangle]

so if you are using wat for a damage benefit only, it's working for the first pull in the dungeon only

[solar wyvern]

Link the log, thats not possible

[surreal adder]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VKbLvJWwn4fyxctY#fight=16&type=auras&source=54&view=timeline

[ripe bobcat]

not possible

[oak tangle]

vanish still a 2 min cd, it takes 4 minutes to get both charges back

[surreal adder]

only thing that would make sense is autumn but its not in auras/buffs so

[warm vortex]

Yes

[surreal adder]

must be a secret tech?

[coarse summit]

not playing it with group, but double vanish seems super nice for pug tanks

[warm vortex]

I thought that’s how people would think it worked?

I thought you meant like

[oak tangle]

nah there's a bunch who think you have vanish twice as often

[warm vortex]

If only

[solar wyvern]

Well that's not really a 4 min window, thats a 4:15, which means half the cast will go through so thats totally doable

[surreal adder]

his 2nd deathmark is 1:40 xd

[warm vortex]

Bro I’m so tired I just wanna play wow instead of uni

Tuesdays the longest day of the week for me

[quiet oar]

maybe autumn?

[warm vortex]

Leave home at half 7 and get back at around half 7 :(

[balmy prism]

Because it's like a 1% dps increase after tea changes, someone else on a PC can explain more gooder @balmy condor

[surreal adder]

ye was thinking autumn too but it doesnt show on logs for some rzn?

odd

[coarse summit]

are we looking at the same log

person just uses it twice no?

[surreal adder]

no lol

1st dm open
2nd 1:40
3rd 3:17

6 kingsbanes aswell

[coarse summit]

huh

ok idk what happened

[surreal adder]

ur looking at vanish

not dm

XD

[coarse summit]

o

[solar wyvern]

Hmm that is quite

Weird

But he used skardyns as well at 1:40

[waxen kelp]

Does Hekili addon work good w assa Rogue?

[balmy prism]

Always better to learn the spec

[blazing pumice]

hekili is garbo in general

[digital wind]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[quiet oar]

Maybe the Log is scuffed?

[blazing pumice]

unless it's some garbage alt you have no interest in playing properly, just spend 5 min reading the guide

[solar wyvern]

Either the log is scuffed or theres some bug abuse

Its not even the cdr affix week so he cant have found some weird bug with that

[primal oasis]

He has a discord? Damn didn't know that

[waxen kelp]

Yeah because i just did some normal bosses and got 98% ilvl parses ST with hemili

[warm vortex]

Bro seeing what a high log for Assa looks like makes me realise how dog water I am at the spec

[blazing pumice]

pressing your face against the keyboard will get you a 99% on normal bosses

[warm vortex]

Mythic sikran last night on a 26%ish kill I got like 1Mil dps only

[primal oasis]

Wouldn't tea changes make pooling better rather than worse? Because pooling would prevent you from accidentally triggering tea and wasting it

At least that sounds logical to me

[blazing pumice]

the only people running normal raids are ungeared/clueless/really bad

[primal oasis]

^ me who started the season 2 weeks ago

[warm vortex]

I mean mythic

Or heroic and mythic rather

[primal oasis]

Oh wait I'm just ungeared

[ripe bobcat]

I stay with pooling 😄

need my mastery buff in DM/KB

[solar wyvern]

Idk i just chain envenoms until I'm forced to pool, which is pretty rare during most encounters

[primal oasis]

I'll just trust what the big brains tell me but I do need an explanation to understand why it's bad now

[solar wyvern]

With twist the knife, your apm is higher because you're getting more poison applications which means more energy which means more ttk uptime

[ripe bobcat]

if u auto tea. blizz decides when u have a mastery buff. if u pool you decide 😄

[solar wyvern]

Its a very minor gain to tea during shiv, compared to on CD.

I just follow the dont mutilate on >89 energy rule and auto tea almost never occurs

[warm vortex]

I still dislike the tea auto change
Yes it rarely effects you when playing with the shiv macro
But still happens sometimes

[ripe bobcat]

Which macro are you talking about? 🙂

[solar wyvern]

Yeah its certainly annoying but thats all it is really, play well and it doesn't happen

Oh people just macro thistle tea into their shiv casts

For brainoff gameplay

[ripe bobcat]

Ah ok 😄

[warm vortex]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[warm vortex]

Still the fact it CAN happen is annoying

[solar wyvern]

Agreed but what can ya do

[ripe bobcat]

castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null -> whats that part? I never saw that 😄

[solar wyvern]

It will be much more annoying on sub rogue if they ever play tea again

[ripe bobcat]

i am a macro beginner tbh

[merry bison]

so you dont get rid of all three stacks after shamshing shiv 3 times

its like a blockage

[ripe bobcat]

ahhhhhhhhhh

ok cool

[warm vortex]

When are we getting more flavours of tea blizzard

[solar wyvern]

Pinecone tea when

[oak tangle]

log is scuffed, the guy has less than 1s gcd

[quiet oar]

The question is

does everyone else have less too

[warm vortex]

I’d post my best sikran log but I’m worried how bad my damage is

[oak tangle]

i was on track for 1.3m then i died

[west crown]

we will all be judging dw

[quiet oar]

This is really weird

Can you just

Manipulate a log

[solar wyvern]

Yeah im a bit confused how this log exists ngl

[oak tangle]

now i dunno if dh is locked to 1s gcd too, but if so

[solar wyvern]

Nah you're not locked as dh, meta goes fast lol

[oak tangle]

what specs are

[solar wyvern]

That is, quite fast though

Just energy classes afaik?

[warm vortex]

I only had 1Mil dps by 26% sikran mythic

[solar wyvern]

Sounds like low boss/envenom uptime, are you shadowstepping lots?

[west crown]

sounds like mechanics

[warm vortex]

Yea I’m trying to, I think I could just be bad aswell

[ripe bobcat]

do we need a KB macro like this too?

[warm vortex]

Fuck it imma post the log and be judged

[west crown]

i dont do mythic so i cant compare dps really

[warm vortex]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kZC19ghTafHxFpdY#fight=62&type=damage-done

[oak tangle]

why no kill

[warm vortex]

We didn’t kill it

[oak tangle]

i belief in u

[warm vortex]

But yea, can someone check what I did if I did stuff wrong

[west crown]

Bad envenom uptime and not procing DN fast enough I can see at first glance

[solar wyvern]

You have a lot of downtime indeed

[quiet oar]

Only Energy based classes are locked to 1s gcd afaik

others reduce with haste

[solar wyvern]

Ik charges are annoying, but with shadowstep cd reduction talent on DS you should be able to shadowstep every charge, and shadowstep to an ally during shattering sweep to minimize downtime

[warm vortex]

Yea

Also when DN prove its immediately prio to get it back in right

[solar wyvern]

Yeah DN is top priority

You should be able to have rupture/garrote refreshed before DN as long as you're looking at DS marks

[warm vortex]

Alright

And the downtime is dashing right? Or do I also mess up just in general

[oak tangle]

no troll, but you guys died right when you were about to slam an execute dm

[warm vortex]

:(

[solar wyvern]

Downtime is sweep and charges yeah

Theres a big 6 second gap at 51 sec

That nukes dps

[warm vortex]

Ah fair

I just don’t wanna sit in melee then mistime a SS
I know I can get a mouse over macro but I’ve done that and somehow moused over the boss when I’ve tried to SS to an ally

[solar wyvern]

I just click on raid frames tbh

Impossible to fuckup

[oak tangle]

hit that i-frame cloak

[warm vortex]

…

Please check my brain

How the fuck did I not think of that

[solar wyvern]

Ahhaha i learned that during sarkareth knockbacks

[warm vortex]

That’s literally putting the square in the square hole

[primal oasis]

You mean with tea?

[solar wyvern]

I said fuck this no more

[primal oasis]

You'll use shiv during KB anyway so

[warm vortex]

I’m trying to put the square in the triangle hole

Bro I was CLICKING my shadow step the start of the season

[solar wyvern]

Banger

I clicked my defensives in DF season 1

[warm vortex]

Only thing I still click is stealth and vanish

[solar wyvern]

How far i have come lol

[warm vortex]

Bro I also did that at the start of the season

[shut jolt]

wait does CoS not work on rotspew in NW anymore?

[oak tangle]

i still click my defensives

but fr, hit that i-frame cloak and dont even run out

[warm vortex]

Real players play by typing /cast mutilate /cast mutilate /cast envenom

[warm vortex]

What do you mean? I thought sweep was physics

[karmic crystal]

If you have key bound other spells why don’t you finish it off

[warm vortex]

*physical

[karmic crystal]

Be bold and brave

[oak tangle]

cloak has a sexy 1s immunity

idk where it works, but it works there

[warm vortex]

Oh

Ok that should help a ton

[worldly sail]

yeah its the fun and intuitive cloak mechanic once again

[shut jolt]

any1 know why this happends

ah sorry saw the answer above

ty

ffs

[worldly sail]

i really think they should make the cloak tooltip a bit better

[warm vortex]

I’ll try the cloak

[worldly sail]

just say ONE SECOND OF IMMUNITY

[warm vortex]

It’s at the start right

[icy acorn]

inb4 they say its unintended and remove it

[worldly sail]

you need to use cloak as the cast has under 1 second left

[shut jolt]

yeah first boss

cheers for the info

[quiet oar]

Because its physical

[oak tangle]

i'm enjoying just watching that clip and seeing everyone get yeeted haha

[quiet oar]

Evasion works afaik

[warm vortex]

So just 1 sec left

[oak tangle]

yup

[warm vortex]

Ok

[oak tangle]

doesn't cloak have "brief moment of immunity"

[ripe bobcat]

yes

[oak tangle]

and then the linger part is harmful effects

[cunning needle]

get vuhdo and assign a mouse cl ick on your party frame

[waxen kelp]

Have any1 seen a good informative Assa guide on YT, I'm to lazy to read trough IcyVeins

[karmic crystal]

Whispyr has one for raid and mythic + that is still largely relevant

[waxen kelp]

Thanks ❤️

[karmic crystal]

Some changes since then but all those updates should be in the pins and even in the videos whispyr mentions a few times some predictions about what would change (and did)

[latent pike]

Is there any way to track the amount of interrupts/Silence uptime from Iron wire?

[polar gorge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[autumn gyro]

is there any youtube guide you'd recommend for assa? I've been reading the wowhead guide but a good video is great to

[clever sapphire]

like 5 messages up

whispyrs channel

[lusty kraken]

what embellishments are you guys using for m+? is ascendance any decent?

[clever sapphire]

has an around 1:30h long video that has pretty much everything in it

[clever sapphire]

embellishments are small gains anyways so if you are mythic raiding, ascendance is probably your go to because thats the best for raiding and not bad for m+

i personally use double dawnthread because i dont raid

but double dawnthread is also not bad for raid so its like whatever floats your boat i guess

(also check pin with with screenshot of casuals message)

[warm vortex]

I use ascended as I do a mix of both

But always sim the embellishments

[warm vortex]

Yea weren’t they massive in DF