assassination

[subtle tundra]

ok yea

[severe sparrow]

this is the spider xpac it makes sense

[subtle tundra]

it happened to me

on dummy

rn

[gusty mirage]

Maybe it’ll come with those pickpocket crimson vial buffs we were promised at blizzcon 5 years ago

ANY DAY NOW

[limber lion]

What timeframe is this?

[slate crown]

I'll grab it

[severe sparrow]

nah theyre too busy making pistol shot glyphs

[slate crown]

Again I only have the yt vid didn't look at log

[gusty mirage]

I remember they nerfed vial for those buffs

And then never gave us the buffs

[limber lion]

If it's the timestamp that I linked, you can see Envenom dropping just barely before he reapplies it

So he's not applying a second Envenom

[lavish geyser]

When it comes to stats, am i hurt alot by outlaw stats? Like do i need to farm gear, in order for be to deal big dam?

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

Because it gets dropped like 0.1s before he applies the new 8s one

[spice spire]

No

[limber lion]

Right before this Envenom at 2:09:05 is applied, it gets dropped

[gusty mirage]

Nah it’s not a big deal. You probably get like a few % max from optimized stats but that can be fixed with legit swapping shit like rings/enchants if you’re super worried about it

[slate crown]

https://youtu.be/apjG_pEn5V4?t=7739 - I think we're justlooking at a different timepoint, talking about different things

The envenom after this, watch its duration, it goes down to 6 sec, then jumps up to 8

[lavish geyser]

Amazing. Was lucky i had 2 daggers XD

[slate crown]

without a stack being added

I guess what I'm looking at is the envenom right before the one you linkk

[limber lion]

Yeah that's definitely a parry angle. Maybe TTK works differently with parry

[slate crown]

[limber lion]

Let me pull up the log

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LKf8tVmQnWyaMGrp#fight=85

[slate crown]

There's still some fuckiness going on

for sure

separate from the bugs I already knew about

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

Oh, I think the log was made private again

[spice spire]

It’s so joever

[slate crown]

yeah looks private

[native nimbus]

let me ask about this

[limber lion]

Tyty

[slate crown]

I just need to update the aura to clear the states if the aura clears cause right now I only let them naturally expire

or I lock them if the munch happens

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-out-gif-18252480

[lavish geyser]

Laaast question, can you just pop the big cds at any moment? After setting up snd and the bleeds and splatter?

[gusty mirage]

I just checked it again, and it was working

[native nimbus]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LKf8tVmQnWyaMGrp

[crimson zephyr]

How do I figure out if my m+ damage is good?

[limber lion]

Nice they're quick with it

[native nimbus]

Ok GM set to public

[slate crown]

I know parry adds envneom duration but doesn't consume points

[royal lantern]

when you time the key without running into dps related problems

[slate crown]

but I'd be really interested to confirm if parry does not add a ttk stack

[gusty mirage]

Also applies cttc

[subtle tundra]

and eats DN...

applies mark but rip the damage

stupid parry

[high walrus]

love eating dn

[spice spire]

What’s dn?

[subtle tundra]

dafuq

[crimson zephyr]

Well I did a 9++ GB the other day and I think compared to others I was ok, but I still think I did bad/can do 20% more

[subtle tundra]

these nuts

[spice spire]

!8,3

[royal lantern]

i love how bloodbound parries 1 KB every week

[limber lion]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LKf8tVmQnWyaMGrp#fight=85&type=damage-done&source=217&start=94889861&end=94892862&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24casts%240%240.0.0.Any%24232665125.0.0.Rogue%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%2432645

Yeah definitely a parry

[grim jay]

I wouldnt ever parry your king

[crimson zephyr]

What?

What does parry mean?

[slate crown]

nice good call

[gusty mirage]

Parry is thematic, okay?

[limber lion]

Gets the Envenom buff but doesn't do any damage.

[gusty mirage]

@marble hemlock

[slate crown]

wait but does that answer the question of why the stack then disappears?

I mean it's still a bug

[crimson zephyr]

A boss can parry dots?

[limber lion]

No

[slate crown]

but does parry correlate to the instances of it disappearing?

[royal lantern]

yeha, i feel outsksilled so hard everytime it happens on all those boses that turn around 20 time in 4 seconds or force you to stay in front of them because of how the fight works :3

[limber lion]

Hmm

[grim jay]

I'd assume so

[gusty mirage]

It’s honestly so fun

[grim jay]

since you consume/use everything before the hit

[gusty mirage]

10/10 experience

[limber lion]

Yeah, looks like to me that the parried Envenom doesn't actually contribute to the Envenom buff timer/TTK

And instead only visually adds the 2s on top

Thats' why it drops early

[slate crown]

nice we solved the mystery

[subtle tundra]

during whole of progress i had 0 issues on queen ansurek parries
after patch i pug some hc and i almost break down in tears cause of parries

[fallow canopy]

another reason to remove parry its all I'm reading

[subtle tundra]

this game sucks

[limber lion]

And the reason the Envenom that drops after that

Is because the "parried" envenom would drop at that moment

[quasi steeple]

Guys, sorry to bother, im starting to do +10 keys but im constantly getting energy starved periods during the runs, any tips?

[grim jay]

not everything can be feet

[native nimbus]

guys I was parried by a worm, skill issue

[subtle tundra]

if you mean in ST

thats ok

[spice spire]

St it’s normal

[quasi steeple]

Yea, st mostly

[spice spire]

You’ll just starve

[quasi steeple]

AoE is all gucci most of the time

[subtle tundra]

intended gayplay

[slate crown]

so the actual uptime is still "correct" but the buff icon is just wrong

[grim jay]

some people would argue it is, they will hit you with the "just stand behind it" bat

[royal lantern]

no

embrace the Hater way

dont remove parry, add Spell Resist into the game again

[subtle tundra]

if its ever not gucc in aoe, youre misplaying

[royal lantern]

fuck ranged dps

[fallow canopy]

somehow all of our nature dmg would get resisted and we'll get double fucked

[spice spire]

Nothing I hate more than myself

Win win

[grim jay]

actually adding spell resist would be the fairest way if they wanna keep

parry

and it would be a shitstorm

never seen before

[quasi steeple]

Sometimes i get invited to groups with 630 peeps that delete everything so, there's not much to do on my end hahaha

[slate crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[quasi steeple]

But yea, problem is on ST, "glad" is intended

[grim jay]

ngl that would be so me

I'd embrace it

bask in it

and treasure it

[spice spire]

Me to the homies buss

[subtle tundra]

ok?!?

IM MISSING 3 FOR MY CRAFT

GRRRRRAWR

im about to craft a ring with elemental focusing lens

for m+

[thorn crater]

good for you

[versed gulch]

Any chance you have some spare Runed to upgrade?

[fallow canopy]

any runeds to trade?

[slate crown]

Honestly not even sure I want to update the aura then... it's going to be messed up but like, how much do I update it to correspond to bugs like this. I'm pulling info from the aura in blizz UI, it's the only source of truth I have as I can't simply use casts from envenom because of other bugs that legit remove the buff. I'd love to just make the aura be "what it should be" beyond the bugs. ugh

[subtle tundra]

thats after all trade ups possible

😦

[fallow canopy]

rip

[native nimbus]

I don’t think you change the aura

it’s true that it falls and I need to reapply

[slate crown]

no but I do need to update it then

[limber lion]

The uptime would be correct if there was a second Envenom at the same time, but the second one instead is just happening at the same time as the previous Envenom

[native nimbus]

and yeah, bug chasing this patch is like trying to catch flies with one hand.

[limber lion]

So they overlap their durations as one singular Envenom instead of having 2 Envenoms

[slate crown]

because the aura won't disappear when the blizz ui does

in that example at least

currently

[native nimbus]

ahhh yes ok

gross

[limber lion]

So it looks "first Envenom has 0s left, time to remove it" even though you just reapplied it and it should have 5s

[slate crown]

it's fine, just bugs are annoying

Just when I thought I was done

[marble hemlock]

listen here you little shit, parry is a mechanic that lends itself very well to World of Warcraft

[native nimbus]

iMmErSiOn

[cinder quartz]

is sikran just an L if you get picked for first images

[native nimbus]

you hold

it’s not too long

[subtle tundra]

and i agree
just needs a whitelist

[old obsidian]

and brothers how about the new skilltree?

[spice surge]

What is this parry you speak of? Is this something im too much of a trickster to comprehend?

[old obsidian]

for raid?

[spice spire]

Yes

[molten flicker]

it's the same skill tree

[native nimbus]

its something worms do

its in the lore bro

[spice surge]

Classic worm behaviour

[hardy dagger]

Did you guys not have a sub rogue?

[fallow canopy]

worm has insane hands we are just oblivious

[subtle tundra]

we did, why

[spice spire]

Too busy focusing on the thickness of the worm tbh

[native nimbus]

I'm curious why this self corrects when the boss transitions to next phase. Is that coincidence?

[white whale]

when did envenom procing slice and dice?

[cinder quartz]

patch notes, read em. 11.0.5

[spice surge]

Trickster prevents parrying

[subtle tundra]

wtf?

[fallow canopy]

he's tricky and stuff

[subtle tundra]

how is this the first time i hear of that

[spice surge]

The parry prevention is raidwide

[spice spire]

Two weeks ago

[subtle tundra]

i didnt know they had anything parry related

[native nimbus]

such a cool thematic element. so tricky

[subtle tundra]

thats so fucking weird

[cinder quartz]

i thought it was personal but i haven't looked hard

[spice surge]

(its not up all the time, but its like 90%+)

[subtle tundra]

how did i miss it

[spice surge]

Well it being raidwide doesnt make much sense, but it do be like that

Probably not intended

[fallow canopy]

that's the tricky part ha

[subtle tundra]

actually a pretty decent raid buff

on bosses where parrying is prevalent

[limber swallow]

this is a good sign that it'll get removed in the future. We can't have rogues bringing raid utility

[cinder quartz]

its funny that parrying isn't a thing in m+

[subtle tundra]

thank god

[cinder quartz]

but raid is some holy ground that needs parrying

[hardy dagger]

Was gonna say how the hell where you not frustrated with ansurek haha

Kinda absurd how ansurek can parry in intermission

[sullen steppe]

Do we refresh CT during KB or just keep blashting envenoms

Isit just my missplay not refreshing ct before going into cds

[pastel talon]

Anyone here running twist knife instead of sudden demise for M+? How does it feel?

[crimson current]

during aoe just refresh CT and maintain envenom on KB target while aa

[crimson current]

i like it

not running on all dgs tho

[exotic parcel]

Should i go for this trinket?

[crimson current]

actually i run sudden demise on every dungeon and TTK depends

[flint tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-it-salem-nailfile-watch-your-back-gif-13691887

[crimson current]

without a doubt

[exotic parcel]

Not sure how up to date it is

[molten flicker]

no, take socket

[lavish geyser]

Can i send big abilities on cd?

[molten flicker]

if u can reach the buttons

[heavy canopy]

Probably the best trinket for Assassination Rogue...

[exotic parcel]

Haven't played rogue at all this xpac, just been leveling a bit here and there as an alt lol

[lavish geyser]

Lol, so that is a yes? I just need to do them in the right order

[lavish geyser]

I hate you dude, have been trying to get this on hero track forever on my dh. XD GZ

[dry dagger]

Quazii managed to remove Rupture tracking from Sin in his WA package.......

[crimson current]

yea

[dry dagger]

How on earth do you have that happen?

[crimson current]

until you learn the optimal cd management on each dg

packs etc

just keep it on cd

[lavish geyser]

Okok, im assuming that comes with exp. Like on most classes with big cds you learn when its smart to use em

[limber lion]

I run both on all dungeons that I run

I don't run SBS instead

[heavy canopy]

30% ilvl parse I suck and I don't know why 🙃

[crimson current]

i am running SBS and SD on all, TTK depends

i dont run MA and i switch IW for TTK the dgs we dont need the silence on garrote

but being honest, just play what you feel comfortable between those

[quartz spear]

Which dungeons aren't you running iron wire on?

[crimson current]

mists and sob

[quartz spear]

Makes sense

[crimson current]

and i will try on DB

didnt have the chance yet

i mean, GB theres a lot of caster until boss 3

and boss 2

[cinder quartz]

if you can be on boss for the 15 seconds, let it rip. you want to pair every other KB with Deathmark

[crimson current]

dont think i would drop IW

[heavy canopy]

Yeah, I mixed up the mobs, mb

[limber lion]

monkas

I would run MA in every dungeon

[crimson current]

i dont like using vanish for damage

[heavy canopy]

what do you use it for then?

[crimson current]

skipping some mechanics

[limber lion]

What else would you use it for?

Yeah

[crimson current]

in 12s/13s+ u dont need that damage

satying alive is more important

[limber lion]

Lol

[crimson current]

i use it for util also

with silence on garrote

[heavy canopy]

I can't think of anything other than Corruptors from GB that I'd save Vanish for 🤔

[limber lion]

Once you get to high enough keys, damage is the thing that will hold the group back

[spice spire]

First boss targeting with the pillars - vanish drops

[cyan karma]

Vanish is the emergency “I lost DSM” button lol

[heavy canopy]

Ah true - but haven't yet had the need for that, so I'd probably still use it for damage then

[crimson current]

and some casts if you run out of interrupts/cc

[ashen totem]

it lines up with cds, you dont hold vanish for it

[spice spire]

Usually I’ll hold an extra few seconds on launch on first boss and if I’m targeted, will vanish and just use it

[limber lion]

And having MA for every opener that you do on every single pack

pretty big

[spice spire]

Damn it’s like I had it lined up

[crimson current]

yeah, on bosses i use on cd

but in general

i dont use MA

dont like it

and im fine with it

again, just play what youre comfortable with

[limber lion]

Good thing you can play whatever you want and still be within 5% or whatever

[crimson current]

its not one or two talents that will keep you stuck

[limber lion]

SBS, TTK, MA, SD, Sang

Doesn't matter

[crimson current]

yea

and also depends on your party tbh

a lot of things can be considered

with pally tank u dont even need IW that much

[night iris]

I might be crazy, but are there some delves where Venemous wounds just doesn't activate sometimes?

[limber lion]

No

Do you have poisons on?

[night iris]

Yes

[limber lion]

VW works everywhere and the spec wouldn't literally function without it

It might feel slow

But without VW it's actually unplayable

[night iris]

I don't know but I've had moments where I have everything on the enemy and can see on my energy bar that it isn't going as fast as usual

[uneven rover]

Got a question, how is assa in open world or delve stuff? I know he is in keys strong but how is he outside of it? I ask because usually dot classes are a bit slower in grinding fast monster down and im probably to old to play outlaw apm wise haha

[limber lion]

Assassination is very good for all of that stuff

Sudden Demise is very good for open world stuff

And Assa pumps in single target currently so all the big boys also get destroyed

You will do well with Assa

[uneven rover]

Okey thank you very much for the helpful and quick answer

[pliant remnant]

[wraith surge]

Hi all, quick question, i've been running 'Authority of the dephts' on both weapons for a while, but just now see a lot of people using 'Authority of Radiant Power'. Is it much better?

[limber lion]

No, they're about the same

Doesn't really matter

Gotta sim yourself if you wanna know which one is better for you

[wraith surge]

Thanks!

[quartz spear]

Radiant Power for M+

[wraith surge]

Ah, im only running m+, so i'll swap then

[stark scroll]

you get rooted on final boss of nw by someone dispelling too early and you have no cloak and are watching comet cast go off

[little storm]

hi all! any idea what addon/bar this is so I can move it?

[drowsy hatch]

Looks like it's part of elvui no?

[dusty crescent]

i've died and borked a key because i thought i still had cloak +2seconds talent and stood still for comet

i was unbelievably angry and embarrassed

[little storm]

i thought it was* but when i go to the mover settings theres no moveable frame where it appears

[stark scroll]

I just run

[barren linden]

If im playing with subtersuge in m+, i dont need to vanish for DM Burst?

[stark scroll]

but now that I think about

there is not really any other good cloak on that fight

so may as well use it and keep uptime

I played that fight on outlaw

[dusty crescent]

cloak duration talents allows you to not move at all

no point

[stark scroll]

so i grappling hooked the exile

[dusty crescent]

if you use the talent*

[stark scroll]

and used the cloak to get rid of the debuff

so i was used to holding it

but i have been sin entire season

[dusty crescent]

i do it to keep uptime yeah

[stark scroll]

Good call

[dusty crescent]

and give tank more room

just PLEASE

[stark scroll]

yup

smart

[dusty crescent]

talent +2seconds

lol

don't be like me

[stark scroll]

otherwise it doesnt last long enough?

lol

rip

[dusty crescent]

yea

2 seconds is perfect duration

wait til swirly appears under feet then pop

and it'll last 1s after comet ends

[undone stag]

hey guys whats the bot commands i want to see them all

so i wont miss anything

[dusty crescent]

! help

[undone stag]

thx

if i come and spam them it only shows them to me ?

wont bother others ?

[dusty crescent]

nah it shows everyoen

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[lunar sonnet]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dusty crescent]

see?

[undone stag]

😐

[dusty crescent]

lol

[undone stag]

where can i spam em lol

[dusty crescent]

go to #bot-spam

[undone stag]

thx mate

[daring glen]

do you guys try to keep envenom uptime 100% on st in m+ or you pool energy

[dusty crescent]

but is that a penis

bruh*

[undone stag]

hahahahaha

[arctic socket]

It’s a bird with some giant nuts

[daring glen]

ignore my selfie and answer question

[undone stag]

kekw

[arctic socket]

Don’t answer him now

[dusty crescent]

yeah

i can't focus

thresh you answer them

[undone stag]

wait i just see ur name

[arctic socket]

Nah

[arctic socket]

It’s true

[undone stag]

😐

i found my home

[dusty crescent]

lmao

[undone stag]

after all these years then

[dusty crescent]

i give gold to people because i'm charitable

it's a meme

i don't pay for feet

that's wild

Ask thresh

never asked for toes

[dusty crescent]

i just gave them money cuz they were peasant mode

[dusty crescent]

did you buy longboy?

lol

[arctic socket]

I didn’t no

[dusty crescent]

why you buying all dem toekns

[spice spire]

🐳

[arctic socket]

Someone got it for me

[dusty crescent]

lmao

[arctic socket]

And I converted gold over

[dusty crescent]

what did you send

them

[arctic socket]

Nothing

[dusty crescent]

UHUH SURRREEE

[crimson current]

feet pic

[tired gull]

batwing

[dusty crescent]

100 bucks for feet pic

wild

[arctic socket]

Them grippers

[dusty crescent]

saudi prince mode

[shut edge]

hey guys, how do i sim the best for m+?

[arctic socket]

Dungeon slice

art

Where’s the art channel? @spice spire

[crimson current]

is this ahri

[spice spire]

#off-topic

Looks great tho

Idk what it is but you’re sick bud

[arctic socket]

Mhmmm

[crimson current]

yea actually sick

[arctic socket]

[crimson current]

while i almost reproved in art class in my school times

miss those good ol times

[flint tusk]

Excuse me nothing is offtopic.

This is assassination chat.
It’s a special place where all and no rules apply.

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-interview-it-goes-without-saying-gif-12669775144079688963

[crimson zephyr]

I like rules

[flint tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-banhammer-ban-hammer-mod-gif-458944485492049902

[gusty mirage]

I like you

[crimson current]

rule number one: love kittens

[stark scroll]

I think in an Ideal world you would

this is mine on rash fight purple parse nothing outstanding

[dusty crescent]

you do your best

not enough soles though

assa discord fell off

[past panther]

hi spirit blossom ahri

[arctic socket]

[subtle tundra]

Fax

[arctic socket]

Sole pic soon?

[subtle tundra]

No

I've only sent thirst traps

[coral ibex]

[wicked quartz]

hey guys say you wanted to sim for top gear/droptimizer for both m+ and raid/st without having to sim both dungeon slice and patchwerk which is the better of the 2 options to go with

[arctic socket]

If you post your sole pic I will too @subtle tundra

[subtle tundra]

Gooned to that already

[heavy canopy]

YEEEEEES, NO MORE GRIM BATOL EVER AGAIN

[slate crown]

gz

[dusty crescent]

such goated art

[flint tusk]

Now you can begin the journey for a new discord

[drowsy hatch]

Until you want it in myth

[old obsidian]

ON SILKEN with new talents ;D thx Whisp!

[hardy dagger]

Last time they changed parry was in wod

[heavy canopy]

New Discord?

[flint tusk]

Anyone who is lucky enough to get the trinket is not allowed to exist with us peasants without it :p

[dusty crescent]

i JUST recently got it

[drowsy hatch]

Don't worry, you can join the exclusive Skardyn's haver channel now.

[dusty crescent]

mines hero

[heavy canopy]

Haha, well, it did take 52 runs, so not sure if I'm on the lucky side 😅

[flint tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-fresh-prince-thrown-out-kicked-out-gif-5919348

[dusty crescent]

115 runs for me

[flint tusk]

holy fuck that

[dusty crescent]

( i'm counting normal , heroic , and mythic 0's before m+ came out included )

not normal heroic

i'm dumb

myth 0's

idk why i typed norm heroic lmao

i'm thinking of raid rn

T.T

gearing an alt atm

[heavy canopy]

I would've stopped at 100 probably 😂

[flint tusk]

It's ok we know you did it 100 times on follower mode first

[dusty crescent]

nah i can't

it started to mock me

i did a gutteral war cry when i got it

ngl

[flint tusk]

but now you've got to get 8 m+10's per week and play the gambling game for mythic track every week 😛

still so dumb it's super like that

[limber lion]

I see nothing bad in it

The ultra bis trinket is like a few 0.% better than a maxed out hero one

[cursive adder]

Took me just 36 runs with friend trader to get the trin

[limber lion]

At least sometimes you might actually get something of value from vault

And not just an abundance of sockets

[spice spire]

I love @gusty mirage dearly

[flint tusk]

it just feels bad you know
the best gear being locked behind 100% pure RNG of all m+ items

[pure moth]

I took mythic track trinket out of vault to get the drop from the dungeon the next time..

[spice spire]

[cursive adder]

Are retri pals trash destroyers in m+? My overall is always pathetically lower than any decent pally, most things just die in seconds

[dusty crescent]

yes

press 2 button and laugh as they kill your caustic target

[drowsy hatch]

WAKE OF ASHES WAKE OF ASHES WAKE OF ASHES WAKE OF ASHES

[dusty crescent]

they are our enemy

[spice spire]

Own them back homies

[subtle tundra]

Problem is the existance of items that are only available from the vault rng

[spice spire]

You have the power

[subtle tundra]

There should be a way to get it even if at a high cost

[arctic socket]

Not in low keys

In higher keys sure

Low keys fuck no

[drowsy hatch]

ret will just eat your lunch in low keys

[undone stag]

can i have em ?

[subtle tundra]

Like 3 weeks of vault gives tier upgrade of an item

[drowsy hatch]

tis the world

[versed gulch]

I'm still mad Rets are the only melee to keep extra melee range.

[dusty crescent]

they're melee casters

hue

[versed gulch]

Though I still hear our Rets complain about how hard it is to play melee and not stand in shit.

[arctic socket]

Lmao

[gilded wasp]

Hey guys , do you have a weak aura that calls you when a chunk of damage is coming because i feel i'm not abusing feint enough

[drowsy hatch]

if the average ret had to have actual melee range

[arctic socket]

Our rets we have use heliki

🙂

[drowsy hatch]

it would be a 40% nerf with their play

[subtle tundra]

Their melee range is the same as every melee though, right? It's just that their spells are high range

[versed gulch]

I mean, Ret Hekili doesn't even have to be optimized, right? 3 buttons. It could show them in random order and still work

[subtle tundra]

Can't you make a 1 button macro for ret

And do plenty good

[versed gulch]

I could have sworn they still had plus 3 yards.

[heavy canopy]

Just smash your head onto your keyboard repeatedly

[arctic socket]

With how simple ret is I’m sure it’s completely fine

Besides cooldown usage

[subtle tundra]

Their cd is 30 sec

You press it as many times as possible

No think

[limber lion]

Yeh agree

[spice spire]

Jokes on them I want them to have gains like I do

Enjoy the chicken and rice blud

[heavy canopy]

DBM does that for me

[versed gulch]

That may be the biggest crime. Other classes are locked at 1.5 min, 2 min burst etc. 30 seconds is nuts.

[hollow river]

anyone know if haste makes this proc more?

[limber lion]

It does

Read the first line

[hollow river]

don't see that often anymore

[limber lion]

Under the name

[hollow river]

bro

i can read

[subtle tundra]

Well it's a new thing

[limber lion]

Hmm?

[hollow river]

i know what it says

[gilded wasp]

Oh do you have to configure something or does it come vanilla ?

[spice spire]

[heavy canopy]

Reading the item explains the item

[hollow river]

just asking for clarification

[limber lion]

What is the issue then

It does proc more yes

[spice spire]

Magic player detected

[limber lion]

That's the point

[hollow river]

that's all i needed

[heavy canopy]

Vanilla I'm pretty sure? It just yells "AoE" when boss does AoE 🤷‍♂️

[heavy canopy]

Guilty

[iron valve]

I thought all RPPM things scaled with haste?

[limber lion]

No

If only

[hollow river]

a lot of stuff lately has not

[spice spire]

Enjoy

[hollow river]

that's why i was asking

[iron valve]

I see I see

[limber lion]

If wowhead says it does

It does

It'll clearly drop out the haste if it does not

[hollow river]

idr any wep enchants doing so in a long time

[limber lion]

Yeh

[hollow river]

so wasn't sure

[limber lion]

Sophic Devotion didn't

[hollow river]

i couldn't find the page myself, copied the pic from someone else

[limber lion]

Likely because it's a damage proc

And not a stat gain

[scenic plank]

guys anyone knows what's the addon that adds teleport buttons for dungeons on escape menu ?

[onyx apex]

hey guys i seem to have an issue but i might just be DUMB. sometimes on m+ pulls my deathstalker mark stack doesnt get consumed ? is it a bug or am i missing something. Yes im spending more than 5 combo points, yes on the right target

[heavy canopy]

Do you have Darkest Night up?

[rare isle]

I think ret is fine, the game is supposed to be available to everyone regardless of their eventual disabilities. And ret fills that availability slot perfectly

[hollow river]

yeah. iirc the SL damage proc didn't either

or was that weapon oil idr

[gilded wasp]

does it works for adds ?

[onyx apex]

hmmm idk why

[heavy canopy]

It'll call out important add abilities too, yes, but not all

[crimson current]

its because darkest night is up

[heavy canopy]

If you have DN up, it can't proc marks

Gotta envenom at max points first

[crimson current]

you need to full combo point envenom before

yea

[onyx apex]

dude how clunky is that in m+

[crimson current]

that will fix your issue

[drowsy hatch]

if you have DN just open w/ garrote instead

[heavy canopy]

It is very clunky, but you'll get used to it

[onyx apex]

bruuuh ok thank you very much much love

[heavy canopy]

My WA highlights my last combo point, and if I see that, I know to gun for 7 CP Envenom

[crimson current]

just get an aura to track it and you will be fine

[frank jetty]

Is double vanish better than 1 point in lethality if youre only pugging atm and the tanks chainpull like crazy all the time ?

[crimson current]

i dont like double vanish

idk

[rare isle]

Or have a cancelaura for DN on ambush when you open from stealtj

[heavy canopy]

That's what I do! But that's mostly because I hate chainpulls but still wanna do damage.

[crimson current]

if you feel like playing it, maybe worth

[drowsy hatch]

double vanish is arguably better even without chain pulling

but its pretty neutral

[crimson current]

was talking about talents with ceverion earlier

just play what you feel better with

u dont lose/win much cause of 1 or 2 talents

[drowsy hatch]

neither is going to move the dial much

[iron valve]

there's no way that's better than using darkest night

[versed gulch]

I'm leaning towards double vanish as insurance when I inevitably make a mistake, drop Mark, and can't get out of combat.

[frank jetty]

okay thanks guys for the quick reply 🙂 then I guess I go with double vanish - just "feels" better to me rn

[versed gulch]

But that's because I'm not very good at keeping track of it

[crimson current]

thats it then

[heavy canopy]

Especially with the affix taking you out of stealth, sometimes it does it right before a pack and I can't restealth

I'm very happy to have Vanish then

[versed gulch]

So that's what it is. I kept blaming my Aug.

[heavy canopy]

Affixes suck, pretty much all of them take you out of stealth iirc

Some even put you in combat for a while

[versed gulch]

Though he also likes to rescue me into the next pack when I'm trying to restealth so he low key deserves the blame.

[crimson current]

those affix sucks

so good 12s+ dont have them

[tawny rapids]

does anyone know if vanish is used in single target fight for the MA buff in raid_

[drowsy hatch]

Yes

[crimson current]

if you use MA you need to vanish on CD for damage

[drowsy hatch]

Use it with your cooldowns. 6/9/12s left on KB/DM based on subterfuge

[crimson current]

listen to her

[drowsy hatch]

Probably 6s based on the current raid build

[heavy canopy]

Do you guys know if temporary stat boosts (like Skardyn's Grace) count towards stat penalties?

[drowsy hatch]

with being induction pilled

[drowsy hatch]

They do but it's super minor for us. You're barely going to DR and even if you do it's 10%

The cap is very high

[heavy canopy]

It's only 10%? I thought it was much higher

[drowsy hatch]

It will go higher if there's more

[heavy canopy]

Oh it scales, the penalty

[drowsy hatch]

but you would need a crazy amount of mastery

[heavy canopy]

I just remember something like 40%-50%, but that's only if you have ONLY mastery lol

[drowsy hatch]

Don't worry about it this tier basically

[hoary ginkgo]

What racial is best for dps oriental m + ?

Under 12 key

[nimble vector]

if it gives a flat amount of stats it counts towards DR, if it gives a % amount of stats it won't

[cobalt sphinx]

probably orc but dwarf has by far and away the best m+ racial

[versed gulch]

Dwarf? Self dispel of bad stuff saving your life is probably more benefit than any racial DPS buff.

[heavy canopy]

That's good to know, thank you!

[crimson current]

under 12 u dont need dwarf

dwarf is for the dispell

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah you don't need flasks or enchants either

under 12 you could 4-man the keys

[crimson current]

damage wise i think is orc

[cobalt sphinx]

but why would you

[crimson current]

idk

but why would you take any race specifically then

[versed gulch]

They're all close enough damage wise that you should play the one you enjoy looking at the most.

[cobalt sphinx]

to optimize your performance or output regardless of the relative difficulty of the content

[drowsy hatch]

The real answer is it's so insanely inconsequential if you're doing under 1s

12s

[crimson current]

yea

[crimson current]

i mean, u dont optimize shit playing 11s

just your rotation

[drowsy hatch]

So you might as well be a dorf in case you go higher

[cobalt sphinx]

lukewarm discord waffling aside, for damage it's orc

[drowsy hatch]

Or just be pretty = )

[spice spire]

Yeah but dorf aren’t cute

So miss me w that

[drowsy hatch]

I'm a prettymaxxer

so I agree

[crimson current]

i hate being dwarf

miss my old belf

[spice spire]

Amen

[ionic fox]

who said dwarf isn't cute?

[spice spire]

Belf master race @royal lantern

[crimson current]

and then send the most UNCUTE screenshot of all time

[spice spire]

Me and I stand by it

[ionic fox]

unbelievable

[spice spire]

Dogs out tho

Incredible

[crimson current]

🤢

[ionic fox]

Yeah I am cuter than that

[spice spire]

Okay guys hear me out here

Worgent

[crimson current]

istg ive never seen a worgen

[versed gulch]

Fem worgen has a surprisingly good stealth animation. That's all I have to say about Worgen. Even looking at the word Worgen actually makes me think I'm spelling it wrong. It's that unfamiliar.

[crimson current]

how specific

[drowsy hatch]

people have called me a dog enough in league, I dont need to be a dog in wow too

[minor dagger]

!wa

[versed gulch]

I wonder if the play is just go dwarf for the racial and then just always play Recalibrated.

[prisma monolith]

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Whispyr's Plater

[cobalt sphinx]

you can use the enchanting things apparently

[spice spire]

Rather be a dog than a bitch

[drowsy hatch]

Bit of both, bit of both

[spice spire]

Nah ur a nice lass

[versed gulch]

I mean, are you really gaming if someone doesn't start shouting curses, slurs and death threats the moment you fail to last hit a creep.

2000 hours of DOTA2 still lingers with me after years

[spice spire]

Seek help bestie

(Do not ask my WoW time)

[crimson zephyr]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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Whispyr's Plater

[versed gulch]

Like I understand competitive games are stressful but people get so vile about it.

[spice spire]

Games are meant to be fun

[cobalt sphinx]

league is the perfect game for flaming others because you have 40 second overhead spectator windows for typing in chat

when you're dead

[spice spire]

In the end that’s my line on games

[cobalt sphinx]

type 2 fun

[spice spire]

If they bring more stress than joy I simply won’t play (which is why I’ve collectively spent 13ish years away from WoW)

[spice spire]

Sometimes you take silly little things too serious tho

[spice spire]

You wish bud

[slate crown]

goals

I mean what?

[spice spire]

HUH

[slate crown]

gm

[arctic socket]

[wispy marsh]

uwu

[spice spire]

Are you guys good ?

[wispy marsh]

cat stepped on keyboard, ignore that

[arctic socket]

Woof

[slate crown]

do you always ask questions you know the answers to?

[drowsy hatch]

I am, unfortunately, down horrendously

[arctic socket]

I wasn’t expecting le to respond to that one

Tbh

[crimson current]

and they are

ppl are the problem

[slate crown]

Correct, games don't have to be fun to be good. I'm not joking

[spice spire]

Yeah I do actually assuming does not equal knowing. Can infer that likely no, you’re not. But would like to make sure

[spice spire]

Cataclysmic even?

[slate crown]

Thx homie

[subtle tundra]

bro

[spice spire]

Good thing wow cata is here for you homie

[subtle tundra]

thats me

[spice spire]

Hey king

[subtle tundra]

just came back from the new gym

[drowsy hatch]

wish deathwing would do that to me

[subtle tundra]

sheesh

[sturdy python]

@balmy condor your tech almost helped me beat the goat

[spice spire]

Disappoint you?

Because that’s what he did in cata

[drowsy hatch]

you know what

[spice spire]

Anticlimactic ass fight

[spice spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/779189221168513055/1087066384577597480/7f27gs.gif

[wispy marsh]

You don't like standing on the dragon's back for 10 minutes??? Come on now

[crimson current]

:3

[spice spire]

Honestly

Spine was fine

It was madness

Like

That fight was piss easy

[drowsy hatch]

I didn't play in cata

but I conceptually think spine is neat

[spice spire]

I’m old

What can I say

[wispy marsh]

Only 2 more weeks for my daggers to be done. I'm so tired of AFK'ing for bloods, lol

[spice spire]

I didn’t mind spine

But it definitely

Showed weaknesses in guild

[coral ibex]

dragon soul’s problem was it existed too fuckin long

[spice spire]

And I definitely wiped the group some healing

[drowsy hatch]

Also I like that one guy had several encounters in 1 raid for him

Makes it seem more epic

[umbral sierra]

this look about right for a +7 necrotic?

[drowsy hatch]

Rather than the boss jerking off in the corner til we slap them in some room

Spatter seems low but you might not be able to get as much value in a +7

[crimson current]

idk spatter seems low

but its a 7

[coral ibex]

the first tier in cata was fun as hell on heroic

[umbral sierra]

yeah im having some issues with keeping spatter up lol

[slate crown]

yo wtf where do you work

[umbral sierra]

forget to mut in aoe

[drowsy hatch]

90 degrees turned from by work pc = )

[crimson current]

need to keep spatter up

[rotund oak]

HC Spine was one of my favorite fights and without sub rogues it wouldnt be possible

[umbral sierra]

was also unfort bc i was having to tab rupture bc tank was chain pulling and i couldnt get a restealth

[ionic fox]

Don't go around tab rupturing too much. Just CT and spatter everything instead.

[spice spire]

I was on combat then

No daggers no bitches

[umbral sierra]

i only had 1 rupture out lol

[hollow stone]

I was also combat then

without sub is jebait

smh

[spice spire]

That’s a cool boss tbh

[rotund oak]

💀 i had fangs of the father

[hollow stone]

bro, you used them as combat too

wut

[rotund oak]

those tentacles where getting chopped

[spice spire]

Fangs sub was piss easy

Combat was piss easy

Legitimately

[ionic fox]

that's fine just blast with spatter, it is a 7 so you will get more output before pack is dead that way

[spice spire]

Just hated that tier

[crimson current]

your top damage must be spatter on breakdown

[rotund oak]

ye u couldnt do rly alot of dmg,wpn speed was a thing then iirc

[hollow stone]

no, you definitely played combat with the lego daggers

[rotund oak]

u are crazy

on heroic spine

it was sub

no sub no party

boss wouldnt die

[hollow stone]

no, it was combat the entire tier

[crimson current]

many grannys here

[hollow stone]

boss definitely died

[slate crown]

You used the daggers as combat

[crimson current]

that played spine

[rotund oak]

u are insane.

[slate crown]

They had a modifier

to make them usable as combat

a specific effect to buff sinister strike

[crimson zephyr]

whats a good assassination m+ content creator videos stream whatever - or just a good video about how to play m+ in general as assa

[slate crown]

to make it make sense that you had a dagger mh

[spice spire]

You swapped off of combat for hero daggers - because party buff.
But combat was just mega busto that tier

But also 3 button spec

[crimson current]

i watch casualaddict and vspeed

[rotund oak]

💀

[spice spire]

If you had two rogues you were chuckling

[rotund oak]

idk what game u played back then

[spice spire]

We did

So I did a chuckle

[crimson current]

but they dont teach

they just play

[crimson zephyr]

yeah already followed them but hey bot hwere raiding when I checked 😄 figured more can't hurt

[crimson current]

and if you ask something, they answer maybe

[spice spire]

Idk speed, but casual does try to answer a bit

Very nice lad

[crimson current]

yea

speed too

answered me a few times

[spice spire]

Yeah he’s in here occasionally too.
Honestly all the WF rogues seem pretty nice

[wispy marsh]

I saw casual typing in chat yesterday to answer questions between keys

[crimson current]

it is good to know what they do on their runs, but they dont teach you rotation etc

[spice spire]

Yeah he does that

[spice spire]

Yeah they don’t do mega basics

[crimson zephyr]

You know, pikaboo does lots of content where he just comments himself non stop - I always liked that or xaryu has videos of where he analyzes runs etc. learned a lot form that back when I was cool and tried myself in arena

[spice spire]

They probably would

But they get a lot rn I’m sure

I barely get to watch Vhispyr and I’m a mega simp for that man so

[crimson zephyr]

I mean lots of that stuff you just see by watching right

[crimson current]

yea yea

if you know the basics, its good to watch them

[pliant silo]

Casual has a display for all of his casts

So if you were ever curious about procedure on different packs, mob counts, scenarios, it’s actually good content even for learning basics

Maybe nuance is lost but yeah

It’s hard to watch people who don’t have some kind of global-by-global display

[crimson zephyr]

why do people use plater

[drowsy hatch]

Because it makes it easier to see things

[crimson zephyr]

first itme using it - I cant see shit

ok then I have to adjust it

but e.g. casts I can barely see o.O

[spice spire]

Sounds like you need a better profile

Cev’s is so good (to me)

[crimson zephyr]

I use default I have to turn this off I can play like that xD

[wispy marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8m3aBSIzqbU

[spice spire]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

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[unique wolf]

hey guys, wanted to ask about iron wire, why do we run it if it only activates when used from stealth, isnt ambush always our first button in stealth?

[spice spire]

Use a couple there

[wispy marsh]

Watch that and it'll tell you why

[drowsy hatch]

It lasts after stealth for 6-12s based on subterfuge

[spice spire]

Improved garrote and SS both let you do garrotes out of stealth

[unique wolf]

we dont talent subterfuge though?

[drowsy hatch]

We do and it's 6s even without it

[spice spire]

Also you don’t always open with ambush if we have dn running

Also there’s like

15 viable builds

Lot to work with

[nova aspen]

im actually running without a trace, never thought i would

the extra round of silences are so good

[drowsy hatch]

tis a dark time

[unique wolf]

so its basically we have subterfuge without taleneting into it anyways?

[spice spire]

I also think that early 2000s crime dramas are underrated, good shout malarki

[crimson zephyr]

watch that?

[spice spire]

Subterfuge from like uh.
Shadowlands, yeah it’s covered by other talents

[nova aspen]

dexter

[pliant silo]

Indiscriminate carnage

Or somethin

[unique wolf]

yep

[spice spire]

@crimson zephyr

[drowsy hatch]

Improved garrote has this

[spice spire]

Oh I was saying without a trace

[wispy marsh]

Thank you

[spice spire]

It’s a pun

[nova aspen]

oh

[spice spire]

But dexter fucks with the lights on good show

[nova aspen]

i never saw without a trace i think

[spice spire]

Uh

No need

Show was aggressively mediocre

[nova aspen]

noted

[spice spire]

Honestly the best part of the show has been using it as a D-tier pun at best

[heavy canopy]

What alts are you guys running? Any class you, as Sin rogues, enjoy as well?

[wispy marsh]

Demo lock or bust

[valid pulsar]

Started playing rogue not too long ago, should you be stealth before every pull to maximize this? And rupture also

[ebon river]

Frost mage, fury, enhance

[cinder quartz]

ideally yes

[crimson zephyr]

ah thanks

[cinder quartz]

you want to open with Ambush for hero talent, then garrote

[spice spire]

Spriest/arms warrior/tank spec x.
Usually it’s a pick your choice tier for me

Feral is also fun

But I’ve never dedicated a tier to it as an alt

[cinder quartz]

enhance has been fun but i haven't done it seriously

[valid pulsar]

Right thank you

[spice spire]

This tier Im an spriest gamer

Feels like a passenger princess ass class ngl

[drowsy hatch]

If you can help it its good to start in stealth

but not a huge deal if you cant

[spice spire]

In keys I have one kick and a scream

Outside of that glhf

[drowsy hatch]

IE if you're chain pulling well it's nbd

[valid pulsar]

I have been doing that 90% of the time. Thought I saw it on wowhead maybe. Glad I’m doing that right haha. Hardest class I have played so far but super fun

[spice spire]

Glad you’re enjoying it homie

[valid pulsar]

Man I’m already getting arthritis

[drowsy hatch]

Don't play outlaw then

[valid pulsar]

LOL

[spice spire]

If you have anymore questions, people are super friendly here (if they’re not they’re subject to lashings)

[royal python]

Play fire mage for cure

[heavy canopy]

Thank you guys for the replies!

[valid pulsar]

I got to like 2600 io on destro

Literally 4 buttons

Maybe less

Was falling asleep playing

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah destro seems like it caps out at 1.5 overall though

[valid pulsar]

This keeps me awake

[wispy marsh]

I play Demo primarily but there's a bug in Dawn where your demons just, fly off the ship??? Switched to Destro for it after not touching that spec in like 6+ years. Yup, still easy as hell

[crimson zephyr]

that looks way better let me try that

[valid pulsar]

Yeah and your rain of fire goes through the ships

[agile kestrel]

!crafy

[valid pulsar]

Pog

[agile kestrel]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[wispy marsh]

Don't be afraid to try different platers. I really like this one but there are a ton that others use.

Gl;

[tacit charm]

Sin rogue in mdi pogo

[spice spire]

Oh MDI rn

Gotta hate watch daps

[heavy canopy]

What's MDI?

[drowsy hatch]

Mythic Dungeon Invitational. Basically competitive m+

[spice spire]

Mythic dungeon invitational

Speed running normal keys

[heavy canopy]

Oh what

[spice spire]

There’s also the great push

Which is pushing higher keys

[heavy canopy]

Imma watch that for sure

[spice spire]

And highest possible

http://twitch.tv/warcraft

[crimson zephyr]

eh where exactly is the import button on plater? o.O

[tawdry flume]

@balmy condor I think I found out what causes DSM to drop. If you try to reapply DSM to a target that is weak (dies very fast after applying), it doesnt reset DSM and is just lost.

[cobalt sphinx]

yo

kasp's angels is my exact comp?????

ret havoc??

[wispy marsh]

Well guys, looking at this enhance dmg it's been a good run. I'll see y'all when enh gets nerfed.

[cobalt sphinx]

and htey're getting smoked????

[tawdry flume]

Also happens to bosses with intermissions. Why it occurs on Siege so many times.

[cobalt sphinx]

yo.....

dashing in keys

[wispy marsh]

Profiles, import profiles

[crimson zephyr]

yeah found it, thanks. way better.

[cobalt sphinx]

neither rogue is running bonerspike

i wonder if i'll give it a go

[torn dome]

for ST, are we generally taking ER and Supercharge over lethality?

[past bobcat]

Fatebound sin on queen kinda slaps

Ngl

[wispy marsh]

Alright boys, I lied, sin rogue beat enh shaman in overall. We're back.

[spice surge]

Grim batol is also a really insane dungeon for assa

Since pretty much every pull has one big mob

That you can funnel down

[crimson zephyr]

so I suck even more lol 😄

[loud brook]

same 😦

[sonic zinc]

well does ur tank pull everythin in a room for ur to funnel?

[past bobcat]

Not to mention the silence on the packs is giga

[limber lion]

Practice, practice, practice.

[severe sparrow]

Ass do be at home in grim butthole

[crimson zephyr]

so do assas in m+ just focus the biggest mob for their dmg instead of focusing down the most annoying one?

[limber lion]

Yes

Usually the biggest mob is the most annoying one as well

[crimson zephyr]

oh that's convenient 😄

[pliant silo]

You just “focus” a caster and kick it

But melee the prio target

[sonic zinc]

focus macro with focus kick and cc

[crimson zephyr]

tyty

[umbral sierra]

is it just me or is wound poison looking like the move this week bc of all the dog shit healers who cant do the affix

[fickle lotus]

wut

[cinder quartz]

what ilvl are MDI toons

[fickle lotus]

639

[limber lion]

How would wound poison help with that?

[sonic zinc]

giga max ilvl

[crimson zephyr]

how is that related?

[umbral sierra]

if its not dealt with it heals the mobs

[spice spire]

They’re in absolute bis

[limber lion]

Lol

[wispy marsh]

Took me a second, because the adds heal lol

[crimson zephyr]

ah lol

[limber lion]

You never ever play wound poison in pve

[umbral sierra]

im watching bosses heal for 30% of their hp

[limber lion]

Just kill the mobs faster

So they don't have time to heal

:)

[severe sparrow]

That's not yours problem to fix tbh lol

[spice spire]

I see the vision of wound weren’t so shit

But

It’s absolutely shit

[dire sphinx]

I really don't get this, in mythic plus i'm topping out at around 2.2 mil dps. Just ran an instance with another rogue with worse gear topping out at 3.5 mil on the same packs. I'm opening with amb -> gar -> rup -> rup-> gar -> fan -> crim -> mut -> fan -> env -> dm +temp -> king -> mut/enven 6-7 pt. When i check his cast logs with details he's doing the same thing. What am i doing wrong?

[crimson zephyr]

can you guys send screenshots of your UIs infight? I don't pay tough

[wispy marsh]

Prob letting bleeds/caustic drop. I will say, I prefer to second garrote (depending on how many mobs) then CT into mut fok

[severe sparrow]

Are you bleeding the same targets/maybe they're getting better spatter value bc of mob grouping/main man choice?

[dire sphinx]

his splat value is nearly twice as much as mine

but i'm not letting it drop

and the packs were tight

in arakara i would go on the scarabs

they would be the last to die

[wispy marsh]

so my typical opener is amb, gar, rup, rup, gar, gar, ct, mut, fan, env, dm, shiv, kb, procced with rotation
If his caustic damage is double it might be dropping.

[silk sundial]

How do yall deal with the affix this week? If it doesn't get dispelled cast cloak? My issue with that is you then don't have cloak when you need it.

[crimson zephyr]

hmm might have to do similar

[sonic zinc]

crimson vial and pray

[wispy marsh]

I racial one, cloak the next, repeat.

[dire sphinx]

you want your shiv to land for the last 8 sec of kb, when it's doing more dmg

[fickle lotus]

You let the healer deal with it

[heavy canopy]

If healer doesn't disspell or heal it, I cloak it, yeah

[nova aspen]

just run 12s and above

[umbral sierra]

i also bring a spriest or other class like paly who can dispell as well

this affix is legit just the 2 ghosts that spawn and need healing but on crack

[wispy marsh]

True, this is very important. This is also something I don't care to do because I'm lazy in my 11/12's

[silk sundial]

Just feels bad to cloak it in something like GB when you have a ton of dots and heal absorbs

[arctic socket]

Who wouldn’t like that tbh