#assassination

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wispy epoch
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shrug šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

limber lion
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Similar to how you could shorten Sepsis twice with the 4p in Sepulcher

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By macroing it together with Vendetta

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Networking shenanigans

wispy epoch
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God I hated Shadowlands assassination

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Having 4 separate big CDs

quiet oar
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Well i was like "Why is there no Deathmark, i used 7cp envenom)

limber lion
wispy epoch
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Vendetta sepsis/rb/bone spike and some other shit I can’t remember

limber lion
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What is RB?

dry dagger
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Is it better with 2 radiant ring enchants or one cursed and one radiant?

wispy epoch
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Reverberating blow

dry dagger
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Or can you not have 2 radiant?

limber lion
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What is that?

pastel onyx
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Bone spike big cd?Think

late tusk
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Hllo, do you know any wa that say if you are in range with the target? just saw it on a enhacenemnt one

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And think i need it on my rogue

spice spire
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Sepsis and sbs were also choice node

wispy epoch
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The thing from Kyrian

limber lion
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Yeah

spice spire
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Yeah echoing rep

limber lion
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That's Echoing Reprimand

wispy epoch
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When Kyrian was bis for everyone

wispy marsh
wispy epoch
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Okay

limber lion
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And you didn't use Sepsis/SBS together

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You always had one of those

spice spire
limber lion
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Like you didn't have access to all of them at the same time

spice spire
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Would look at log

limber lion
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Still the same amount of buttons

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Like there's more buttons now with Kingsbane in the mix

spice spire
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And double check dn rq

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Length

wispy epoch
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But kingsbane is fun when you put it on your spatter

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And it just gives you 5mil burst

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On a pack

quiet oar
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network issue

limber lion
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Lol

quiet oar
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like cev said

limber lion
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Yeh definitely just a networking thing

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Has happened in the past

spice spire
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It also could be a shortened length

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You gained dn 28s prior

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Since it’s a 30s buff

pastel onyx
strange python
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
wispy epoch
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If I can’t get a full CP envenom within 30secs

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I’d just turn the game off

limber lion
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Well if it's mythic+ and there's running to do or waiting on something

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It can and will happen

wispy marsh
limber lion
quiet oar
wispy epoch
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I just see them doing dumb shit with their 6.9mil hp and living

wispy marsh
wispy epoch
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Makes me seethe

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They do like 3.5mil burst once every 3 packs

reef bay
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anyone else getting stuck in m+ ? bricked two 13's because i couldnt move and keept dying in the same spot

wispy marsh
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But I love him, good dude kekdog

stray adder
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hahaha

wispy epoch
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Frost dk…

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Rip

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Who’s still above us on keys?

stray adder
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enhance has to be above

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right

limber lion
wispy marsh
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This is who I want to alt (and who I am alting) because this spec is fun af

wispy epoch
stray adder
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oh

limber lion
stray adder
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missed that

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rip bozo i guess

limber lion
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Like a 10% nerf in AoE

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6% or something in ST

wispy marsh
wispy epoch
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We got neefed a touch too

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sad about master assassin

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Makes iron wire look better I guess

limber lion
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Gonna head to work soon

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Still got a concert to play today

wispy epoch
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Garrote opener ā€œdid my partā€ and just go right into my dps rotation without feeling guilty about missing kicks

wispy epoch
limber lion
wispy marsh
limber lion
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prayge tyty

wispy marsh
wispy epoch
wispy epoch
cloud yew
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the damage from sb feels so good though

wispy epoch
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Not kicks

forest spear
wispy marsh
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^Me asking himw what he's talking about, 2 kicks, 30 minute dungeon done

wispy epoch
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I’d just be losing a lot of dps on bleeds during ST

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Bc I hate pooling energy

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And use feint a lot

cloud yew
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nothing to kick if its dead /s

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run that sb king

spice spire
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This is similar to the bug I ran into

wispy epoch
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Idk what I’d give up for SB here

spice spire
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But I thought it had to be back to back

limber lion
wispy epoch
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I’m not giving up Denise

spice spire
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But even if you quickly consume it loses on the follow up

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I wonder

wispy epoch
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Demise*

limber lion
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This trips me out

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As it's not the normal layout

wispy epoch
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Wait

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I do have

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Yeah

arctic socket
limber lion
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Looks like Doomblade + Sang

wispy epoch
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It’s sanguine

limber lion
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Both have the same pic

wispy epoch
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This whole time

limber lion
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Lul

wispy epoch
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The sanguine blades was there

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I don’t do my own talents

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I don’t think I read through the talent tree before

arctic socket
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What the the Ma icon look like

wispy marsh
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I copypaste wowhead/wowlogs lol

wispy epoch
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I just pull from the loadouts

arctic socket
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SD < MA

wispy marsh
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Actually knowing what all these talents do?? No shotOMEGAKEKW

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I know the important ones

wispy epoch
limber lion
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Should run MA and 2x Subt for every key

wispy epoch
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Unless you mean for raid bosses

azure flare
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Ok but

arctic socket
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Ma is stronger then Sd

wispy epoch
azure flare
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Seeing ppl swap out of ma all of a sudden

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After the patch

limber lion
azure flare
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Wondering if experimenting

quiet oar
limber lion
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And 1x Lethality for 2x Subt

quiet oar
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because lag etc?

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idk

subtle tundra
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i just died from aggro on queen ansurek pug

limber lion
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Ouch

subtle tundra
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holy shit

wispy marsh
azure flare
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Hello rogue use tricks šŸ¤“ some tank probably

wispy epoch
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I use tricks for everything now

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Tanks don’t deserve the dmg mitigation

sinful scroll
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how does SB work? Is it when u apply a bleed, or does it consume the extra energy each time ur bleeds tick

azure flare
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I took aggro from a tank yestersay due to caustic spatter

limber lion
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Actually, I'ma sim a mists real quick and see how MA fares

wispy epoch
hexed canopy
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do we use vanish in the last 6 seconds of KB too?(with Subterfuge 12) IN M+

azure flare
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Only thing u need to keep in mind with sb is, dont be above the threshold on pure st

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Shit drains for poop dmg then

azure flare
final star
azure flare
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More kingsbane crits are better

wispy epoch
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The kingsbane question is wild

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How much it gets asked

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ā€œShould I do the thing that amplifies my crits during my biggest dmg phase?0

azure flare
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Lol

wispy epoch
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ā€œYesā€

azure flare
spice spire
final star
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isit bruv

sinful scroll
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i watched a youtube vid that SB gains a bit during DM in ST, is that true?

final star
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madting

spice spire
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When your bleeds are doubled

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And it’s popping twice

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And you’re overflowing with energy

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It is indeed good

wispy epoch
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What’s DM

azure flare
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Deathmark

sinful scroll
azure flare
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Depends r u playing with twist

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If yes dont

wispy marsh
azure flare
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Infact dont even big brain it just press buttons tbh KekW

sinful scroll
wispy epoch
# wispy marsh Where it goes down

Wait till you’re starting bleeds and poison ramp on target while activating transmitter and solving the transmitter while lining it up with your DM and KB, shiv and thistle tea

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In unison

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At that point I’d rather not get the jump 3 times one

wispy marsh
wispy epoch
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Bc I’m already hitting a lot of buttons

digital spindle
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i h8 when shit dies so fast and your bleeds have barely been ticking

azure flare
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Bro

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Imma be real u send DM on a target sith skardyns

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And theyll always fcking die if u run SD

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SD IS GRIEF!

subtle tundra
azure flare
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Executes my caustic target at 20% hp left >:[

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Last tick of kingsbane didnt even go off MADGE

iron valve
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oh no, the targets you wanted to kill died

azure flare
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DIE LATER!!

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Im funneling!!!!

wispy epoch
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Sometimes I feel like SD doesn’t go off fully. I’ll see a dude go down to like 1mil and have a 30sec empowered garrote, rupture and CT on em

hot jay
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Ok I'm coming from a weird angle here but hear me out

wispy epoch
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Okay good

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Not just me

azure flare
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Sometimes ur like yea get fucked

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Sometimes ur like ???

wispy epoch
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In timewalking

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It’s real nice

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Just passive 2mil dps

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Running thru

azure flare
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In tw i run a full bleed build

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Similar what ud run on low keys

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And just have sd being top 3

hot jay
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I'm not actually a rogue main but I recognize how much funnel assassination is capable of on M ovinax - is it good to relax a bit on our raids parasite damage just so the funnel exists for longer? Or is that not much of a boss gain

limber lion
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Not that important

azure flare
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I mean wdym with relax

limber lion
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It's fine to kill the adds off immediately asap

azure flare
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U should just be funneling off the boss anyways

wispy epoch
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Parasites aren’t up long enough for good funnel

hot jay
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I mean they are dying well within the cc duration

azure flare
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Yeah

wispy epoch
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SPIDERS on the other hand

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Are good funnel

coral ibex
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you never swap off ovi except to apply bleeds

azure flare
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Exactly

hot jay
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Ah gotcha so the spiders are the funnel fuel

azure flare
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Dont swap off

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Hit boss and funnel dam into spiders and para

limber lion
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The old funnel meta is gone

coral ibex
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you exist to crank the slug

limber lion
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We still have some funnel, but nothing like in the good old days

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It's more of an extra flavor on top

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Rather than something that would highly increase the damage done

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Otherwise you'd see everyone pull adds on top of every boss in Mythic+

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But it's not really necessary

snow hamlet
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Have you guys ever encountered envenom buff suddenly disappearing? It happens to me often today and I don’t know what happened.

hot jay
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Well yeah I know assa never changes targets, I just mean like - if they parasites are allowed to exist for longer than 3 seconds does that help some caustic damage fueling back into the boss through the 5% mark? Or nah

limber lion
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Don't think so

coral ibex
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that is done when you need time but that’s not really the case this season

drowsy hatch
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This raid has spiders? I only see crabs

wispy epoch
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When I do prog on mythic Ovinax, I’m probably gonna run double vanish just to get rupture/garrote spreads without having to tab or mouseover garrote shit

azure flare
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Caustic doesnt hit the main target

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It doesnt really go back

limber lion
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He's talking about Singular Focus

azure flare
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Oh

hot jay
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Yes

azure flare
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Ehhhh no

limber lion
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But it's not relevant

azure flare
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Singular helps but its so small

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It wont make the diff

hot jay
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Word

limber lion
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What helps more is killing the adds off and then having the entire raid just focus on the boss

coral ibex
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you press CT you hit 5+ targets they all singular focus onto ovinax

dry dagger
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Do we pool energy as sin?

coral ibex
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that’s it

wispy epoch
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Caustic goes so far too, especially on Ovinax’s big ass hitbox

umbral sierra
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do thunderous drums not have charges? i thought drums had 50 charges

limber lion
azure flare
azure flare
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Unless u swap off twist

limber lion
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They are consumables

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One-time use

hot jay
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I'm speaking as the literal arbiter of who decides how long the parasites live, I'm the raids fury warrior OMEGAKEKW

azure flare
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Lmfao

dry dagger
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What about with the change to Tea? I feel like I'm not in control anymore PePeHands

wispy epoch
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I miss when leather workers got infinite drums

azure flare
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Just insta nuke em

umbral sierra
limber lion
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Doesn't matter

azure flare
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Raid dps increase to be faster back on boss

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So if para dies fast theres more boss dam

limber lion
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Feral Hide ones are also one-time use

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consumables

wispy epoch
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How fast are farm groups killing mythic ovinax

hot jay
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I never de-target the boss personally but yeah maybe some people are having to hit less optimal ST buttons while they are alive

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So I can see your point

sullen steppe
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Anyone got a WA that only shows up when kingsbane 8s or under for shivving?

gusty mirage
azure flare
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Notters wa

limber lion
limber lion
wispy epoch
limber lion
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Haven't worked like that in 10 years or whatever

sullen steppe
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
azure flare
gusty mirage
limber lion
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Yeh

gusty mirage
limber lion
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That was very fun

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And remember Battle Scrolls?

gusty mirage
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I had the mallet in BFA

gusty mirage
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Because I was a GAMER

limber lion
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Didn't have to bring a warrior

wispy epoch
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I cry out in pain if I have to swap to totems in Stonevault

limber lion
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just scrolls every dungeon

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No mages, no warriors

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just scroll it up

gusty mirage
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Loved scrolls

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Not sure why they removed them

limber lion
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DIVERSITY

hot jay
limber lion
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OPPORTUNITY

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VERSATILITY

gusty mirage
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Wasn’t ever as good as the actual buff so ya know

limber lion
acoustic pendant
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i have a question. In cds: deathmark + kingsbane do you spam envenom or do pooling thing ?

gusty mirage
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All those warriors they brought in DF xdd

hot jay
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I actually lose 8% haste if I cast a rampage on a new target

wispy epoch
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Oh shit

limber lion
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always spam in cds

wispy epoch
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Nvm then

acoustic pendant
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kingsbane alone aswell ?

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spam

limber lion
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Always

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Shiv

acoustic pendant
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but i have to enter with energy

limber lion
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spam

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KB spam

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DM

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spam

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Always

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Spam

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:)

acoustic pendant
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i sometime enter kingsbane window with low energy in st

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in m+

wispy epoch
limber lion
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That's fine

acoustic pendant
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ye but i cant press envenoms

limber lion
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You're not gonna pool during the cd

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Unlucky?

wispy epoch
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If you wanna do big dam

limber lion
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If you press KB, you spam

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If you don't press KB, you can chill for a bit as well if you want

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But during any cd

wispy marsh
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Even with queen nerf people still can't get this boss

limber lion
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you spam

wispy marsh
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It's insane to me

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I feel like the overlap they removed made this boss so easy

wispy epoch
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You gotta hit KB and DM on the highest hp mob that has your spatter

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Will fucking delete packs

limber lion
wispy epoch
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And just fan of knives into envenom

limber lion
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What is?

wispy epoch
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Till your dick falls off

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Spamming

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Idk directions unclear

hexed canopy
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anyone else feels ttk is hard to keep up in M+ ST?

balmy dome
wispy epoch
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Really eepy

balmy dome
raven egret
raven egret
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We got other things to do, CT stonks and all

wispy epoch
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I don’t even know why ttk does. Just kinda lowers skill gap for envenom chains?

limber lion
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It's not something you aim for

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You don't need to keep it up or anything

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It just allows for more freedom

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And more damage during cds

raven egret
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TTK will be maximized during CDs anyway if you have it

faint garnet
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can someone tell me where i can find a starting build for someone that comes back to assa?

raven egret
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That's what counts

hexed canopy
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alright

faint garnet
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ty !

wispy epoch
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Wait

limber lion
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Np

wispy epoch
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Does TTK amplify your spatter

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In any way

coral ibex
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obviously

limber lion
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It poisons your target more often

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So yes

fallen arch
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Yes

coral ibex
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it improves all envenom effects

wispy epoch
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But

coral ibex
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including damage

raven egret
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Just in case it wasn't said; yes.

austere ridge
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any had a bug where we arent getting energy regen from bleeds?

wispy epoch
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Your envenom uptime in aoe should already be 100% even without it, no?

limber lion
spice surge
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You get two stacks of envenom, which means you benefit twice from things like rapid injection and dashing scoundrel

limber lion
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You're missing poisons if you're not getting energy back

austere ridge
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poisions are up

coral ibex
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you get 2 stacks

raven egret
austere ridge
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i got everything up

coral ibex
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doubling all envenom effects

wispy epoch
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Hmmmm

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Well fuck

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Do I give up crimson tempest for that or what

coral ibex
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lol no

spice surge
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No

fallen arch
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Lol no

raven egret
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Hell no

fallen arch
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My guy

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Dropping ct

stray adder
spice surge
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Theres like 10 other points you can drop

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CT aint one of em

coral ibex
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the build is -sd -sb +ma +ttk

fallen arch
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Or sbs

limber lion
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You drop SBS for TTK + Dashing

raven egret
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TTK isn't needed in keys, but yeah like eleem said if you want it drop something less relevant

fallen arch
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I like ttk in keys

limber lion
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Me too

raven egret
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CT is needed soo yeah! Point is TTK is an option

wispy epoch
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I want to eradicate trash packs and do mediocre boss damage

fallen arch
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Especially since were envenom bots now

raven egret
fallen arch
raven egret
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Cause we do both

wispy epoch
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I just don’t know which build is better for that

raven egret
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We are eating good right now

wispy epoch
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Ttk build or SD build

fallen arch
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Both fine

raven egret
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TTK won't make or break the build

normal mist
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Every time I enter this channel, y'all are talking about m+ builds

fallen arch
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Cause thats the game

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M+

raven egret
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It's just gameplay preference at that point, you'll murder everything either way

wispy epoch
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It’s so crazy

wispy epoch
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I’ve braved both worlds as high end

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And to join a mythic guild

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Where mythic raiders are bricking 10s

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Boggles my mind

normal mist
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In my opinion it's two different worlds

drowsy hatch
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Some people just don't like m+

wispy epoch
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And then m+ 2700 io friends have never stepped a day into mythic

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And are 7/8h

raven egret
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It's a big world out there, they ain't all going to be batting a 1000

fallen arch
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I kinda despise raid

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Love m+

swift pendant
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Any1 know how well Hand of Justice trinket from the blackrock raid sims for assa rogue?

wispy epoch
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Procs often but does nothing

hexed canopy
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i like both M+ and Raids. I prefer M+ but raids are a chill time for me šŸ˜„

fallen arch
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I just cba to wait for the hunter and ret to learn the fights

limber lion
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I'll do mythic+ dungeons to gear my char and the second I don't need anything from there, I'm not setting foot in there

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Literally only use it to fuel me gear

warm vortex
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You do not have a deadly poison or wound poison applied

drowsy hatch
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Yeah pushing keys is just miserable for me

wispy epoch
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I just feel good for finally trying out improved feint and not using cheat death. Now that I have that tts girl shouting ā€œtargetedā€ or ā€œaoe dmgā€ when stuff is about to happen

hexed canopy
fallen arch
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Same for me for raid

spice surge
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I like both, but its a very different vibe

wispy epoch
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I just love selling carries

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Did archi carries, nzoth carries, Argus carries

spice surge
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Raids are something you can only really get with wow

fallen arch
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lso having to schedule raid around 25 ppl

spice surge
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m+ you can get similar experiences in other games

fallen arch
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Kill me now

fallen arch
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Genuine question

wispy epoch
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I don’t do 3 day raid weeks anymore either

spice surge
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Dungeons in other mmos

wispy epoch
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2 days, 6 hrs max

warm vortex
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Tbh imma try and get all done in 12s then call it a day

hot jay
fallen arch
warm vortex
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Maybe try for 3K on one char and 2.5 on other 2

spice surge
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Whereas 20 man exactly on precise times with 300 pulls to kill a single boss is unheard of

wispy epoch
austere snow
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Could someone help me with a subterfuge weakaura please? Cannot find any on wago

hot jay
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Like last night I got my stonevault portal after ignoring it all season, those guys were probably wondering why this guy is 633 ilvl but his highest stonevault is a 7 KEKW

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I just ignored that dungeon completely

coral ibex
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sv was my last 10 too

wispy epoch
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Or mostly garrote

coral ibex
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who looks at their hotbars in combat

spice surge
coral ibex
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that’s why you have weakauras

spice surge
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Premade auras is great and underutilized for simple auras like that

wispy epoch
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Did you learn them all by heart?

coral ibex
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yes?

wispy epoch
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Impressive

green nebula
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I hit 2500 m+ rating and used the item you get but it didn’t give me the appearances. Anyone got a fix?

raven egret
coral ibex
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looking at your hotbars in combat is so bad

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just hide them

spice surge
raven egret
wispy epoch
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This dude clicks

raven egret
drowsy hatch
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I personally just keep my hot bars in the middle of the screen

wispy epoch
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And he’s 2nd on meters

drowsy hatch
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I know where my character is I don't need to see it

wispy epoch
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Our spec is a joke

hot jay
misty skiff
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does indiscriminate carnage affect iron wire?

hot jay
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Loving assa right now I got no complaints

wispy epoch
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I bet some dude who’s really good at that cursor aim game

drowsy hatch
hexed canopy
misty skiff
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cool ty

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just checking

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for sanity

raven egret
coral ibex
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heroic raiding HOLY

wispy epoch
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That’s a mythic kill son

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He killed mythic bloodbound before you

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Probably did more dps too

coral ibex
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wow good for him

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why do you have a hate boner for me

hallow patrol
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shiv before or after kingsbane

pliant silo
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Both if 2 charges, after otherwise

raven egret
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That's the same argument people defending hekili have "but I'm doInG GoOD!" Ok but you can be better without it

deep gyro
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Me melee brain smooth

raven egret
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Now that I can understand

subtle tundra
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Idk buddy you should drop iron wire in m+, you need the dps

pure moth
raven egret
drowsy hatch
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Nah the greatest content creator for rogues, Shivz, says it's rad

crisp burrow
#

Hekili HOLY

wispy epoch
#

Why should I run iron wire? What have tanks ever done for me

raven egret
#

Some of them love you, maybe

wispy epoch
#

He should’ve played a paladin

#

If he wanted interrupts

coral ibex
#

oh this guy sucks, i am ahead of him in prog

#

so who cares

crisp burrow
spice spire
drowsy hatch
#

Lmao

lime parrot
#

Guy what is better for M+ Ara Kara Sacbrood or Dead-Eye Spyglass?

normal mist
#

Do it

drowsy hatch
#

Don't diss the goat

spice spire
lime parrot
wispy epoch
#

Depends

coral ibex
#

sim it

spice spire
#

There’s a lad specifically trying to make it work and implement

wispy epoch
#

Is the fight ST

normal mist
spice spire
#

And I respect it

wispy epoch
#

Then yes

#

Holy shit

normal mist
wispy epoch
#

Okay let’s do some critical thinking here

normal mist
#

No

coral ibex
#

no

#

sim it

normal mist
#

Robot does that for us

spice spire
wispy epoch
#

Haste, which is fuck all for aoe or dungeon slice, and sims very low, with a trinket proc that does ST dmg to one target

normal mist
#

Bro

#

Sim

#

It

wispy epoch
#

Vs a trinket that sims our highest stat when it procs

coral ibex
#

blah blah blah

wispy epoch
#

For dungeon slice

coral ibex
#

sim it

normal mist
#

And we press out abilities

#

It's that simple

raven egret
#

Sim yo self

placid adder
#

Did someone say sim?

coral ibex
#

don’t listen to this guy just sim it and take the highest results

jade owl
#

is there any item from the new raid which is BIS for us ?

normal mist
#

No

drowsy hatch
#

All of brd is the poop

wispy epoch
#

Sim yourself is the equivalent of going to your teacher to ask for help on a math problem and being told to look in the book

coral ibex
#

that’s the right answer lmao

crisp burrow
#

Xd

#

That's all

placid adder
#

Isn’t that how you learn?

spice spire
#

Any step in the right decision is a step worth celebrating

drowsy hatch
#

The alternative for simming is going "idk I guess that sounds nice in theory"

rotund oak
crisp burrow
#

NGL the idea of a father of 4 progging in mythic brain afk with hekili sounds funny to me

normal mist
#

Machine - does thousands of calculations and gives us the best choice.
Humans - feelcraft

drowsy hatch
#

Like yeah it's pretty easy to make educated guesses

cloud yew
drowsy hatch
#

But there's so many factors that it's not worth doing yourself

spice spire
#

It’s like having a complex equation and access to a calculator but not double checking your answer

#

Why would you ever not be sure

coral ibex
#

ā€œcritical thinkingā€ = ā€œlisten to my headcanonā€

normal mist
spice spire
#

Also don’t enjoy ramming at someone with the same logic over and over

normal mist
#

Give this man a raise

young light
#

!design

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
drowsy hatch
#

Not to mention when the comparison is too entirely passive trinkets

#

Feelcraft is even worse

#

Two*

spice spire
#

Just sim is the equivalent of of do it yourself.
When in reality, thinking is necessary for deciding which trinket is ideal.
It’s also okay to have a strong hunch and then run some tests to see if it’s right because in the end, sims are just models

wispy epoch
#

Patchwork ST

spice spire
#

They don’t 1-1 m+ and they simply won’t unless you upload the entire route and timing

wispy epoch
#

5targrt

coral ibex
#

bloodmallet HOLY

spice spire
#

Bloodmallet is another tool you can use.

It’s better to use your own character but like

#

Nothing to hate on here?

rotund oak
coral ibex
#

why would you sim a character other than yourself

raven egret
#

Like at the end of the day anyone asking others to decide a trinket for them is basically asking others to sim them themselves XD

rotund oak
#

yup

#

pretty much

wispy epoch
rotund oak
#

lazy ppl dont do their sims

spice spire
drowsy hatch
#

Bloodmallet is for giving you an idea of what to go for since it isn't your character

#

Then you sim for actual comparisons

wispy epoch
wispy epoch
coral ibex
spice spire
#

Like there’s nothing wrong with bloodmallet as a starting point or even as a bit

#

I legit don’t know why we’re hating so hard rn

#

When there’s nuance to all answers

wispy epoch
#

You pretending to be a victim is just funny man

drowsy hatch
#

I mean I thought that was the point

spice spire
#

It’s not like the man is saying ā€œiw is shit never take itā€

thorn fjord
#

BRO ITS HALLOWEEN VIBE OUT BRO'S

spice spire
#

Then I’d be the #1 hater fr

drowsy hatch
#

Give an idea of good trinks then be more distinct when you actually have the things

coral ibex
spice spire
#

Shivz is on sight (gonna kiss him on the lips)

#

Ladies you’re both beautiful and I love you very much

raven egret
spice spire
#

Now kiss and make up or block SmileDog

spice spire
#

Buddy I’m about to vibe with ur hole I s2g

thorn fjord
#

Holes wide open

spice spire
#

Creed playing? Hell yeah

thorn fjord
#

im six feet from the edge and im thinkin

spice spire
#

ā€œWith holes wide openā€ or whatever creed said

pure moth
#

Facepalm

thorn fjord
#

"My hole is nice"

spice spire
#

What can I say I’m a menace to chat sometimes

pure moth
thorn fjord
#

But look no more arguing

placid adder
#

There are ran out

#

Adr*

thorn fjord
#

Whats the opposite of adrenalin? Cause im all out

#

HOLE ME NOW

spice spire
normal mist
#

GUYS, PINEAPPLE ON PIZZA, YES OR NO??

spice spire
#

I’m always

thorn fjord
raven egret
placid adder
wispy epoch
#

Only with pepperoni

spice spire
inland fox
#

do we play fatebound for raid/m+ now?

spice spire
#

By itself no

raven egret
rotund oak
spice spire
#

M+ never

normal mist
wispy epoch
thorn fjord
#

Ham and Pineapple with cheese is a very nice combo

spice spire
#

Never said we were king

raven egret
#

Although I'll say this; pineapple is less offensive on pizza than anchovies, which should be an actual crime

spice spire
#

Never thought for a second we were either

spice spire
#

Who speaks a more beautiful language Portugal or Brazil

normal mist
#

Hehehehehehe

spice spire
normal mist
#

Brazil

wispy epoch
#

I’ve gotta survive 48 more hrs till I get to go home for 2 weeks

#

Fuck me

spice spire
#

@bleak sky @safe barn Brasil mentioned

coral ibex
#

portugal Surebud

thorn fjord
normal mist
#

Brazilians sound sexy as fuck

#

Also, Afonso padilha

spice spire
thorn fjord
spice spire
#

It’s almost the same language as Spanish (they’re both romantic)

raven egret
wispy epoch
#

Not with that mid anime pfp

spice spire
#

Spanish = French

thorn fjord
#

Spanish is a beautiful language

bleak sky
raven egret
spice spire
#

Both romantic languages pal

#

I don’t make the rules

spice spire
#

Yeah what’s good

wispy epoch
#

French Canadians…

thorn fjord
raven egret
spice spire
wispy epoch
#

I can tell

#

You haven’t done shit in chat like

bleak sky
wispy epoch
#

Oui

spice spire
coral ibex
wispy epoch
#

Whenever I talk to French Canadians, they always gotta be like Oui in chat

spice spire
#

A wat

wispy epoch
#

Idk why

raven egret
coral ibex
#

quebecois

spice spire
#

Ahhh

coral ibex
#

Qc

spice spire
#

Yes actually

thorn fjord
#

The only french word i know is Croissant

spice spire
thorn fjord
#

but you put extra emphasis on the OI

coral ibex
spice spire
#

I’ve a qc friend

#

Nice lad

mental wing
#

does zoldyck recipe increase kingsbane damage ?

wispy epoch
#

I guarantee yall there’s people out there that have automated their Hekili to peak performance

#

And do more dps than us

spice spire
#

Amen

wispy epoch
#

The customization on it is wild

#

Like keybindings

#

Smart shit

delicate trench
#

!lag

prisma monolithBOT
#

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

spice spire
#

According to the guy, the two most aggressively anti-hekili discs are rogues and dhs

#

And you know what

#

Maybe we can change that

#

(And be worse than dhs)

thorn fjord
#

It just blows for Rogue

wispy epoch
#

It’s got a timer on when to use mutilate/envenom so you don’t have issues chaining envenoms

#

It’s actually insane

spice spire
thorn fjord
#

Oh yeah?

spice spire
#

I hadn’t checked since sl

raven egret
spice spire
#

They fixed a lot of finishing logic apparently

spice spire
#

I still haven’t downloaded

thorn fjord
#

I used it S1 and S2 of DF on mage and DK

#

but never rogue... the APL's were always bad

wispy epoch
#

It’s awful for slayer fury Warrior

spice spire
wispy epoch
#

Bc it flashes execute then disappears

#

Every 5 secs

#

I know some ret Paladin who uses gnome sequencer and times 11s so

#

Fuck us I guess

spice spire
thorn fjord
#

The world will forever be your oyster

spice spire
#

Is already 5000x better

#

Than last time around

#

Going to dl and run through some dummy testing to see if it’s accurate

thorn fjord
#

I couldnt use that on rogue it would just fuck with my head

#

But on other classes I use it for sure

#

No alts for me right now tho =/

spice spire
#

Thing is

wispy epoch
spice spire
#

If I can provide insight as to what’s wrong. And fixes aren’t GIGA complex

spice spire
#

Gonna send that message to him rn (via link so he can see your comment specifically)

wispy epoch
#

Like certain talent loadouts like improved garrote and subterfuge 2x make you wanna slam garrote the whole 12 seconds

#

Or it tells you to

#

But that might be bc I refused to use the target swap setting on it

#

Past tense bc I haven’t tried it since

rotund oak
spice spire
#

Holy fuck

#

You’re so quick

rotund oak
#

bruh,im talking with my ceo

thorn fjord
thick citrus
#

I recently did some changes to allow hitting the same target with garrote during carnage for people who dont want to use target swaps.

spice spire
wispy epoch
#

Is this the guy

spice spire
#

Yeah that’s him

rotund oak
wispy epoch
#

I’ve noticed there’s like 2 different ones

thick citrus
#

the supplementary addon is a guy who makes his own tanking packs, that's all

thick citrus
#

I just volunteer code for the main addon

wispy epoch
#

And are those better than yours or do you not have them with the main…

#

Tank rotations

thick citrus
#

The ones in the main addon are based on the sims. His are more hand-crafted and guide-based because real tanking is not a DPS sim. More defensive, less raw damage. Users choice.

#

but regarding the garrote spam, I cleared that with TCs and it's better than not doing it.

wispy epoch
#

I guess the combo point accrual for the energy cost is a good rate compared to not doing it

#

Since I think it generates like 3 points?

thick citrus
#

its not really about that, it's about setting up your energy saturation

#

with the bleed+poison gives energy back talent

#

atleast that's my understanding of the explanation given to me

wispy epoch
#

Shouldn’t it kinda lockout after 5ish garrotes then?

#

Bc at that point

#

I’m flooded with energy

#

Like no matter how much I’m spamming spenders

thick citrus
#

that's not what I was told

wispy epoch
#

I’m not going below 100

thick citrus
#

until everything has garrote or you run out of carnage buff

spice spire
#

5 is only the number for scent.
You still have SS+imp.
And you want max energy as much as possible.
Spreading is still good

thick citrus
#

5 is for rupture, not garrote

wispy epoch
#

I guess it wants you to also put the timers up to like, their max duration empowered

#

So I guess that makes sense

wispy epoch
#

I kinda liked it when I was starting back up

thick citrus
#

you can, or join the Hekili discord so we don't derail this channel

raven egret
#

Main issue with hekili is that it takes focus away from everything else, instead of letting your muscle memory get used to it

spice spire
#

Appreciate you syrif

thick citrus
#

I have the opposite experience

spice spire
#

This goes for everything in the game

thick citrus
#

following it takes like 5% brain power max.

#

everything else is watching around me. A full night of prog on brood and i was the only person out of 20 with 0 damage taken from swirls for example, because I can actaully watch my feet and do my full rotation.

spice spire
#

Tools are meant to have you perform.
Sims? A tool
Weak auras? Same
Hekili is also the same

wispy epoch
#

Yeah I can totally see you growing used to it so well that your rotation can be followed out of your peripheral

#

Plus you can make it see like 6 actions ahead

spice spire
#

Relying on it only, means you’re not understanding the class.
Or why x happens when y,
But if you’re a new player

thick citrus
#

It's all down to how you use it. You can use the addon poorly.

thick citrus
wispy epoch
#

So glance down, know like your 3-4 next gcds

#

Rogue isn’t too proc reliant with ability usage

thick citrus
#

the odds of your 4th-6th GCds remaining the same is functionally 0.

wispy epoch
#

So it’s not too bad

spice spire
#

Do you have to know every single intricacy if you’re new, absolutely not

#

That’s why we exist

wispy epoch
#

Only thing that changes really is fan of knives if you’re going aoe build

spice spire
#

And if syrif makes the tool usable for people. That’s just good

wispy epoch
#

Fan of knives before each envenom

#

On ST

#

Otherwise fan on every target with mutilate to just keep spatter target going

#

Okay sleep time

spice spire
#

Gn king

wispy epoch
#

Sent you a DM

safe barn
#

gn

wispy epoch
#

Syrif

#

Gn

frosty bridge
#

what flask yall using for keys

coral ibex
#

same as raid

#

alc chaos

#

for tempered potion synergy

frosty bridge
#

wait does that make it give all stats or all stats - currently active one from alc chaos?

molten echo
#

All stats

upper vector
#

I think it's about bloody time poisons were made a permanent toggle

frosty bridge
#

ah cool

#

wait is there a string i can add for an advanced sim to not use pot

coral ibex
#

just don’t enable pot in buffs

frosty bridge
#

oh ye

frosty bridge
agile edge
#

hey guys 1 question
wich one is btter ?
algari mana oil or sharpened

rotund oak
#

whetstones

spice spire
#

Whetstone but oil hella cheaper

rotund oak
#

its 45g cheaper ye

agile edge
#

oh tnx

nova aspen
#

yea oil is basically the same price now

coral ibex
#

r3 whetstones are piss cheap these days

drowsy hatch
#

If youre worried about gold do kobold cum

rotund oak
coral ibex
#

either use cum or stones

frosty bridge
#

its not 45g

#

ok, not double, but 170g diff

nova aspen
#

on your server

spice spire
#

?

rotund oak
frosty bridge
#

wait AH is realmwide?

drowsy hatch
#

Oh we're talking about in game?

spice spire
#

HUH

#

Dog

drowsy hatch
#

Yeah I need help

#

It's ok

thorn oracle
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
rotund oak
#

prices vary a bit might go down or up but generally are close

#

whetstones cost almost 500g a piece now

#

so idk how do u call that cheap

#

alloys are cheaper now

nova aspen
#

i mean compared to a month ago

#

thats pretty cheap

#

xD

rotund oak
#

yeah for sure

#

compared to two months ago this is 90% cheaper

#

it was silly expensive

nova aspen
frosty bridge
balmy prism
#

bcuz nullstones are dirtcheap now

#

so whetstones are dirt cheap

frosty bridge
#

279 for oil, 447 for whetstone, kinda nuts

rotund oak
#

up or down

balmy prism
#

Yes

#

they were sitting at 5k+ for weeks

#

(on eu)

rotund oak
#

if u everburn ur forge and stack the buffs for whetstones

balmy prism
#

was hella good money making with maxed mining speed

rotund oak
#

u can multicraft them

#

thats why whetstones went down

#

its unreasonably low priced now

plain onyx
#

guys if i have only one charge or Shiv, do i cast it only in the last eight seconds of KB ? or I cast right after DM and them shiv into KB ?

coral ibex
#

shiv end of kb

rotund oak
#

thats sub 8sec to cover it

spice spire
haughty lantern
#

guys im cosplaying my rogue irl today

#

i wore my assassin's creed cloak to college

plain onyx
#

thanks guys

pure moth
haughty lantern
#

GRANTED this was a very like....cheap purchase. It was a birthday gift like.....fuck, a decade ago?

I had it tailored to have short sleeves because I live in a desert

#

🫠

#

and it's not super high quality. The hood isn't nearly that flexible on mine

spice spire
#

I’m doing the same bit I do every year

#

I’m dressed as an adult

#

Because I’m definitely not one

#

Three of the social workers dressed up as emotions a la inside out and I thought that was hilarious

pure moth
#

Im recording christmas music on halloween.. I should have wrote something spooky

haughty lantern
#

the ONLY christmas anything allowed before halloween is nightmare before christmas stuff

pure moth
#

You want to technically have it done by now though. When you pitch music. Sync placements look in july

upper oak
#

Is there any gear in BRD that we would want? Or is the ilvl just to low when compared to myth gear

haughty lantern
#

hey @pastel onyx the shiv macro wasn't working for me last night on queen, any idea why?

spice spire
#

Alim ping PogO

#

It should have worked

#

No extra spaces or anything right?

haughty lantern
#

i also tested it myself

I did
/cast shiv
/cast tea

and THAT worked, but ofc I spammed shiv and ate all my shivs and teas

but when i copy pasted the macro into the box and it didn't work

drowsy hatch
#

It's funny someone else said it didn't work

#

I copied and pasted it last night and it worked perfectly

haughty lantern
#

(might've been me, i was saying that last night too)

drowsy hatch
#

Nah someone else

#

My only thought is if tea was off your bar completely it might not work

haughty lantern
drowsy hatch
#

peeposhrug I'm going with the lazy IT approach of works for me then

haughty lantern
#

not at home rn tho so I can't test it rn

lavish hazel
#

hi where can i find SUF profile ?

next dust
#

!guide

velvet pier
#

I need to be clear, if i misunderstood something - we are using tea in the LAST 6 seconds of KB right?

rotund oak
#

u can macro tea with shiv yeah

velvet pier
#

Like i cant seem to figure out why my KB is hitting so softly, i see everyone elses KB hitting like a truck

rotund oak
#

its actually not bad but its not the only thing where we use tea

velvet pier
rotund oak
#

and cover the last ticks as well

velvet pier
#

yeah and then save the tea for last 6 seconds of KB for the extra dmg?

rotund oak
#

sub 8 sec

#

yeah

#

if u wanna have it fully buffed that is

#

its not bad

#

right mr @balmy condor

#

(a raid question for the tea usage)

royal lantern
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
royal lantern
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
merry bison
#

That shadowmeld isnā€˜t working on boss fights is a crime

#

I can cheez abilities but can’t stealth

haughty lantern
#

hand chum

royal lantern
#

sure buddy

haughty lantern
#

wouldn't that make NE even more broken than like....mechagnome or dracthyr?

#

specifically for rogue*

#

laughs in nightelf mohawk

merry bison
urban mantle
#

~Lot of people from warcraftlogs are using Radiant power enchant on both daggers. It is better then depths enchant now?