assassination

[coral ibex]

you want LE’s

[nova aspen]

LE's rogue collection

[drowsy hatch]

oh yeah didnt read good

that one

[sand dirge]

what kind of damage is Heaving Retch from the first boss in nw?

[coral ibex]

painful

it’s an attack so either true immune it with the first second of cloak or evasion it or feint

[nova aspen]

warrior's intervene can also help u

[wide dome]

Is the WoWhead talents updated for m+? By the looks of it, nothing really changed talent wise for m+

[sand dirge]

i wanted to try to cloak it but it didnt work but its labeled as nature damage

[nova aspen]

only the first second of cloak works

[drowsy hatch]

you have to specifically use the 1st second of cloak

[sand dirge]

alright so bait and switch doesnt work on it either?

[drowsy hatch]

evasion + feint is fine

youll live

actually i think evasion works alone

[sand dirge]

yes i evade the whole attack then

[nova aspen]

yea it should work alone

i like to feint anyway just in case

[hoary ginkgo]

Evasion will only negate 20% of heaving retch right ?

[stark scroll]

I prefer zac's

[balmy prism]

someone test out the sl tech on heaving pls

just stand really close and you don't take dmg

[sand dirge]

no you will evade the whole attack

[stark scroll]

Ok I will go into a 12 tonight and just stand really close

[hoary ginkgo]

Weird cause it is an magic attack

[stark scroll]

no defensives

[hoary ginkgo]

I cloak it and dead lol

[balmy prism]

yes

[stark scroll]

you have to super cloack it

[balmy prism]

it works like 20% of the time

[hoary ginkgo]

Yeah i got what you mean

[brave stump]

!macro

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[stark scroll]

this doesnt work

[wispy epoch]

Is it physical?

[brave stump]

rly?

[wispy epoch]

Should be feinting either way

[nova aspen]

its phys + nature

[hallow ridge]

shiv

[real granite]

wdym it doesnt work

[wispy epoch]

Easily will have every feint up for it

[real granite]

is your wow in english...?

[stark scroll]

doesnt use tea

[wispy epoch]

Why would you use a big defensive for it

[stark scroll]

just shivs

have to manually use tea after you use this macro

[nocturne quail]

evasion dodges it

take zero dam

[toxic yarrow]

do we have somekind of trick for crafting daggers? Like seems that most ppl can craft one first r4 then r5 and have the other dagger free of crests?

[nocturne quail]

yeah theres a trick

[coral ibex]

no you can just make it r5

[drowsy hatch]

it just worked for me fine

[coral ibex]

and then recraft it

for free upgrades

[deep gyro]

U craft one. Then recraft with dif missive and no crest needed to upgrade later i believe

[nocturne quail]

have to get a different person to recraft it

[wispy epoch]

Craft, put in both slots

Yeah

[stark scroll]

oh what

You can get two 636 then?

[coral ibex]

no

[nocturne quail]

no but you get free crest upgrade

[deep gyro]

No just recraft

[coral ibex]

well yes but not really

[nocturne quail]

can do same thing with rings

[coral ibex]

a 636 and then myth gets free upgrades to 636

[stark scroll]

Thats nice i will be able to upgrade my myth for free

yeah

in theory same for every piece

[deep gyro]

If only i had a dagger to upgrade (:

[wispy epoch]

I fucked up

Wasted 90 crests

[olive shore]

you need a diferent missive for it to become a "new " item

[stark scroll]

on a siphoning stilleto?

[wispy epoch]

On a 639 upgrade wep

From bloodbound

[coral ibex]

lol

[wispy marsh]

Everytime I look at my 619 bracers I think about how I fucked up

[stark scroll]

lol i see hakari

Its funny because whenever I play law

and roll 6

I just think hakari

uhhhhh here it comes

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-hikari-gif-1408129775731152385

[toxic yarrow]

ur trolling right?

[wispy epoch]

I got some nice heroic socketed bracers

Kinda wanna swap to ascendence with wep and belt bc of it

But it’s haste vers bracers

So ew

Not worth shifting around 20k gold for a gem slot I feel

And losing dawnweave for ascendance

Dawnthread*

[karmic hemlock]

I am a really visable learner. Do you guys have any rogue that you follow on YouTube for kill videos in the new raid? I've been watching alot of logs, but looking for some quality videos of kills. Normally use VSpeed and Kushi, but they don't have any from the first 4 bosses 😦

[wispy marsh]

Thought we were talking about the recrafting thing. If I had done that I could have gotten 636 bracers this week. Might have responded to wrong person

[pastel roost]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[cursive adder]

How to deal with mass aoe pulls? Lets say Stonevault all packs in corridor, just get 6 garrotes rolling, 3 ruptures, then tempest and slam Deathmark with kingsbane??

[hushed elbow]

i wouldnt beat urself up about not abusing a bug

[drowsy hatch]

You want 5 ruptures for max scent of blood stacks, but yeah pretty much. Our gameplan is the same in pretty much any pull, set up a few bleeds, CT, then spatter all day

[wispy marsh]

I end up doing this on large packs. Ambush for darkest night, garrote. rupture, rupture, garrote, garrote, crimson tempest, mutilate, fan of knives, envenom, Dm and go hard

[glad tusk]

when u double rupture, do u swap targets? or dont u have to

[drowsy hatch]

You dont have to

2 on the same target will get you to 5 stacks

which is all you really care about

[wise whale]

You can literally tab, very minor to actually swap

[wispy marsh]

What Lili said

[drowsy hatch]

Switching gets you 1 more bleed rolling, but thats only 1 more rupture worth of damage

[wispy marsh]

I just slam the same target

[glad tusk]

okay, fair

[wispy epoch]

Max scent of blood is two ruptures if you think about it

[wispy marsh]

no point tabbing around and potentially losing Darkest Night (whatever it's called)

[drowsy hatch]

It's just an ease thing

[glad tusk]

and after all of this, its just fan of knives into CT spam?

[wise whale]

No

[drowsy hatch]

no ct spam

just get it rolling

[wise whale]

Ct once

[glad tusk]

wait wtf actually

[wise whale]

Yes

[drowsy hatch]

CT does no initial damage

[glad tusk]

ive been spamming FoK into CT as spender

[drowsy hatch]

it's only a bleed

[glad tusk]

wow

[wise whale]

Its a bleed

[glad tusk]

i'm so dumb

[coral ibex]

reading the tooltip may help you

[glad tusk]

ye i guess that could help me lmfao

[drowsy hatch]

you want to just spatter off your deathstalker mark target

with envenoms

[wispy marsh]

After this, keep CT up (refresh the last couple seconds), caustic spatter up (this is the biggest reason I see other rogues not doing as much damage), and fok envenom main target

[wise whale]

You havent been envenoming?

[wispy marsh]

I did that for my first couple days back

[wise whale]

Lie to me plz

[wispy marsh]

Don't feel bad

[glad tusk]

ive only been using envenom in AoE packs when i got the talent where we have to spend 7 combo points

idk the name

its a giga fresh alt, hence the dumb questions

[wise whale]

Its okay. At least you know you have big dam in your future

[wispy marsh]

You're about to do a lot more damage my friend

lol

[wise whale]

We've been there

[glad tusk]

lmfao ye i needed it

[wise whale]

Learning is learning o7

[wispy marsh]

I came back to the game this xpac after being gone since sl s1 and it's been fun relearning everything.

Legit CT spammed my first few m+ before I came back in here and asked some questions lol

[honest night]

Best way to sim m+?

[glad tusk]

same, i feel dumb about it now lol

[wise whale]

Dslice works

Just make sure to turn off raid buffs

[toxic yarrow]

ppl here are actually really helpful. Ty to you

[wispy marsh]

It's all practice to get better, go slam some damage now

Try to be, any knowledge I have about the game I'm glad to share. Granted I'm not doing the highest of keys but I rarely get beat in overall on 11's. Sin damage is really nice rn

[wise whale]

In comes the ele shaman

[honest night]

Thanks @wise whale

[gaunt pendant]

Is sin or outlaw the go to spec

[tardy summit]

Does anyone know the name of the weakaura that shows the casted spells and abilities in a castsequence

[stray adder]

sin but im slightly biased

[sullen phoenix]

always sin, outlaw is for girls

[stray adder]

outlaw is for bug abusers

[strange python]

Details streamer plugin

[heavy grail]

TrufiGCD or something

[wispy marsh]

Do you have your Skardyn's yet?

[stray adder]

nope

ran 5 more yesterday

[wispy marsh]

You EU or NA?

[stray adder]

NA

[wispy marsh]

If you want to I'll run some with you later and trade it if it drops for me? You're a cool person so I want to help out if I can

[pastel roost]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[strange python]

How does transmiter compare to skardyrns in m+ tried simming and says its better in both scenarios?

[stray adder]

I appreciate the offer but I shall suffer eternally

[strange python]

Got hero transmiter few nights ago wonder if the myth skardrnys is better

[wise whale]

Bro's a rogue irl

[thorn fjord]

A brogue

[wispy marsh]

I understand the plight of a forsaken man

[karmic hemlock]

Play around with it in M+ and get a feel for it, see what you like best.

[wise whale]

PIN IT

[stray adder]

I ran with friends here and there but its just not dropping

cant funnel an item that doesnt exist amirite

[wispy marsh]

I've had 3-4 now :/

Just lmk if you change your mind, I'll come through.

[stray adder]

Appreciate you bro 🫂

[wise whale]

Its in ur vault with leech btw

[wispy marsh]

Rogue's gotta stick together

[wise whale]

BROGUES GOTTA STICK TOGETHER

[stray adder]

can I just add that it took me 5 months to get grieftorch in DF season 1

it's a me thing

[strange python]

I got used to it and getting the buff quite fast and consistent but i feel its much bettet than skard since its 1.5 min cd and u can send it sometimes with KB and not play it as a 2min cd trinket to align with deathmark+ kingsbane and 15k primary stat vs 6k mastery felt much more bursty but it is 15s vs 20s tho if packs live longer might lose value..

Cant rly sim it efficiently since some packs die giga fast and sometimes the same pack dies giga slow depending on m+ variables happening in real time

[tacit otter]

If the options are heroic transmitter vs. Mythic skardyns, there's no way you wouldn't play skardyns

[hollow talon]

ill run GB with you too but im gonna take the trinket if it drops for me since you want to suffer eternally

[strange python]

I see, yeah I got that atm as a choice

[rotund oak]

Skadryn's is a myth created by big pharma to force us by drugs

[tacit otter]

Higher ilvl + no haste on it is for sure better

Haste is trash in aoe

[final star]

https://wago.io/b9euX-znp

[gleaming bough]

Im running the TTK and MA build for M+, I want to use Iron wire for GB and other dungs. What is the best talent to drop a point in to pick up iron wire?

[spice spire]

Ty mister kpbussy

[final star]

np I am very helpful

[limber lion]

np

[stray adder]

aware

[spice spire]

np

[coral ibex]

bruh

[limber lion]

SD/Sang

[coral ibex]

i swear people are just griefing their groups dropping iron wire

[stray adder]

ik bro

[paper cloak]

is evasion also for spelldmg?

[limber lion]

In regards to what?

[spice spire]

I’m a mists truther

[limber lion]

You cannot evade spells no

[paper cloak]

ty

[quasi stump]

7 mists downgraded to a 6 COT

this week sucks

legit why why do keys have to downgrade

[tacit otter]

Let's go dude! I'm so happy for you
Let's fucking goooo

[quasi stump]

[limber lion]

Think about this for a moment and I'm sure you'll figure it out

[spice spire]

You got this dude

Just gotta keep going at it

[stray adder]

its not you its them

[spice spire]

Improvement happens by practice

[limber lion]

One day at a time

One deplete at a time

[quasi stump]

dude I started this week at a 10 stonevault

[limber lion]

brings us closer to finishing in time

[quasi stump]

it aint just me

[wispy marsh]

You know how many hours I've sat on target dummy to get rotations down. This is the best advice there is. Keep at it

[limber lion]

This weeks affix is pretty bad

[final star]

Just do 12's

no affix

problem solved

[limber lion]

It's true

[spice spire]

Honestly it’s not that bad. Healer just has to be on top of it

[tacit otter]

Especially in <10 keys. People just don't know they can dispel themselves

[wispy epoch]

Dumb question. For mythic bosses, do all the attack speed reductions stack on the boss?

Like mind numbing, dk, and warlock

[limber lion]

It is very bad if it happens at the same time as other bad mechanics

It can be super deadly

Nothing else compares to it really

Imo

[spice spire]

That’s the oh shit button timing

[final star]

just use totemic recall on poison cleanse totem smile

[spice spire]

Real

[limber lion]

It's true, cloak and everything ready to go

[wispy marsh]

As a dark iron rogue I just cloak one, racial the next, cloak one, racial the next.

[spice spire]

Rdruid was able to do it fairly easily

[wispy marsh]

Now the problem is if I drop the ball and have to cloak

[gusty mirage]

Physical you can evasion it

[wispy epoch]

Is my raid inting by not having two rogues? 😞

[wispy marsh]

lol

[quasi stump]

im speaking as an arms warrior

[spice spire]

Outside of last boss

On 611

[spice spire]

Victory rush BABY

[wispy epoch]

It’s both

[quasi stump]

its not enough

[gusty mirage]

Evasion by itself works

[quasi stump]

I practically do it on CD when the affix comes up

i think the problem is more the paladin was doing like.. 300k dps total in a 7

[wispy epoch]

I wouldn’t waste evasion on it when feint works well enough

[ornate grotto]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[wispy marsh]

Did a 7 the other day where our other rogue did 250k overall

[wispy epoch]

My health doesn’t fall below 70% from max

[wispy marsh]

I was lost in the sauce

[wispy epoch]

On an 11

[quasi stump]

though

I am proud of myself

i am working on weaning myself off hekili

a lot of that key I was looking at my weak aura looking for the procs to use

i had hekili on the side to help with my opener for packs

[gusty mirage]

Good shit, I’m proud of you too

[wispy epoch]

Hekilli should be banned, or at least its detection stuff shouldn’t work how it does

[quasi stump]

i cant go cold turkey but I can work on it

[gusty mirage]

Hey, do whatever works best for you and whatever helps you enjoy the game

[coral ibex]

the reason hekili sucks is bc you don’t learn anything except to stare at the icon

[gusty mirage]

If it takes you a little longer to wean off of it, that’s fine too

[coral ibex]

at least now you can learn to read your weakaura

[gusty mirage]

It’s a game meant to be enjoyed

[real granite]

both are right

[wispy epoch]

Hekilli with critical thinking skills makes you easily a top performer

[stray adder]

what is hekilli

never heard of that

[gusty mirage]

Rotation helper

[stray adder]

oh

[spice spire]

Rotation helper

[coral ibex]

addon that tells you what to press

[toxic yarrow]

I know alot of ppl with 2.5k-3k raider.io using only hekili. It really works wonders for some specs

[wispy epoch]

Really really souped up rotation helper

[real granite]

but imo i think hekili gutting out the process of thought of every decistion, gets a lot of fun out of the gameplay

[coral ibex]

it’s often simply wrong

[real granite]

and people that uses it dont realize it

[quasi stump]

I come from FF so the rotation logic is really different from WoW

[spice spire]

Historically has not been great; however, I will say I got into a conversation with the guy who’s taken up developing on the rogue side

[wispy marsh]

Very different pace

[gusty mirage]

I agree, but I can see the appeal for it esp if you’re picking up a new spec/class

[spice spire]

And he’s done a lot of “fixing”

[wispy marsh]

I play NIN over there, burst phases are fun. Downtime is meh

[wispy epoch]

They literally light up on FFxiv

[spice spire]

I have to download tonight to double check

But like

Not smashing mut on 5-6 cp unless dn up

Is head and shoulders above where it was

Two expansions ago

[gusty mirage]

Sometimes you want to just blast and it helps you just do that albeit not the most efficient method of just blasting

Issue is some people just use it as a crutch when it should be training wheels

[real granite]

i mean, the dopamine start flowing when you get desition after desition after desition and you realize you are doing everything correctly instinctively

[spice spire]

And closing the gap in accessibility to new players is never a bad thing

[real granite]

those moments are wow for me

[wispy epoch]

It’ll tell you to be slamming ruptures and garrotes on low hp adds before you even get spattering going

[spice spire]

So I’m glad he pinged me in the log review.
Because maybe there’s a chance it’s good and while not recommended, it can be good

[gusty mirage]

I won’t ever shit on someone for using a rotation helper personally, because I get the appeal

[wispy epoch]

It’s funny in inexperienced hands

[rotund oak]

Besides hekili being wrong n stuff for obvious reason experienced rogues know of,there is nothing rly to expect from it.U should know how to perform ur opener,vanish on garrote pandemic to extend those bleeds sub 6 seconds and just repeat.Its not sub that u have to hold ur stuff and plan ahead,its very str8 forward.Also trust urself,u dont need any stupid hekili to tell u what to do.Become the king not the horse an addon rides.

[spice spire]

I’ll double check this.
He really wants feedback

And he can’t do everything but if it is, maybe that’s something fixable

[wispy epoch]

Naw don’t fix it. It literally just needs to be critical thinking for some people

[gusty mirage]

I mean if there’s someone double checking it, it’s better than it used to be

[wispy epoch]

Rogue current meta already discourages swapping targets. So all you have to do to counteract is target the highest hp mob in packs, or the one that’ll live the longest

And you’ll be fine

[spice spire]

That’s perspective from someone who knows the spec well and has played.

Everyone starts new and not everyone has the time to fully flush out and learn.
Rogue has always been a “hard class” despite not being that difficult subjectively. Accessibility is a major thing for us

And bringing player # up for a class we love isn’t a bad thing (unless it’s just fotms )

Man really wants to make it work

And I’m glad to hear it

[gusty mirage]

More people being introduced to the class is a good thing. Automatically shitting on people for using a rotation helper “because it’s shit” isn’t helpful to the person at all. Just my two cents

[spice spire]

Leagues better than it’s been by that alone

[spice spire]

I’m guilty of it ngl

[quasi stump]

ty

[wispy epoch]

Hardest class I’ve ever played was day 1 Legion survival Hunter

[spice spire]

That’s what sparked our conversation

Was I kinda did that

[rotund oak]

i know but still doesnt make an excuse to just follow an addon that doesnt help u learn through the hardships.Its cool and all to want to play it,its different to understand it 😉

hekili contradicts the concept

[spice spire]

Agreed

But playing is a step into understanding

Once MM is built

[quasi stump]

I realize that Hekili is kind of like a pacifier for me

[spice spire]

Then you can deep dive into it

[quasi stump]

and I gotta wean off it

[gusty mirage]

Hopefully they don’t use it a crutch and pick things up along the way and then use that to put in the effort to learn the rotation properly. Because there’s a lot of things that take critical thinking like Hakari said

[spice spire]

But there’s also that

[rotund oak]

true

[toxic yarrow]

On opener you spam garrote and rupture, not swapping?

[quasi stump]

its become a crutch

[spice spire]

Agreed

[wispy epoch]

Show me your logs and I’ll show you mine

[gusty mirage]

You realize it and now you can transition to moving off of it completely. Which means it did its job well enough to make you enjoy the class and spec enough to want to get better without it

[quasi stump]

sin rogue is def that

[gusty mirage]

Which is a great thing

You’re a gamer

[quasi stump]

i just love the feel of it

[gusty mirage]

I believe in you

[rotund oak]

hekili eliminates every like process of thinking how to make the spec work,thus learn from it.You arent rly expected to perform perfectly since the start thats delusional,u are expected to train and learn through mistakes,thats how we learn stuff 😉

[quasi stump]

[untold mural]

Pls someone explain me why Seratted Bone Spikes good (i know generate combo point)

[spice spire]

Wholesome chat

[coral ibex]

generate combo point

[wispy epoch]

It’s been said many times here that the dmg difference is negligible spreading rupture garrote from main target vs swapping

[coral ibex]

you already said it

[wispy epoch]

And offers more errors to fuck up when you do it

So risk vs reward

[gusty mirage]

Free cp, does damage, pretty goodly

[stray adder]

the quicker you move away from hekilli, the better you'll get

[spice spire]

Damage and cp Gen.
Also a lot of our talents are kinda booty so it’s worth just picking up over a few other things

[wispy marsh]

I tried tab target spreading garrote/rupture and gave up after losing my mark for the 5th time

Damage is fine just slamming into main target

[wispy epoch]

Last thing I wanna do is accidentally spatter the wrong target

[quasi stump]

I never do that tbh its so tedious

[spice spire]

Which is kinda nuts because it’s like a 2pt thing because the talent to get to it kinda cheeks

[coral ibex]

mouseover cast ruptures

[wispy epoch]

Nah I’m good

[spice spire]

Call me the right target then

[gusty mirage]

Bootyblade

[wispy marsh]

Same

[untold mural]

i testing this

[spice spire]

Ahh Doomblade

God bless

[coral ibex]

how else are you reapplying bleeds

[fallow canopy]

I assume it also counts for lethal dosage (i cant recall if thats the actual name, but the damage amp per bleed)

[coral ibex]

you’re tabbing!?

[gusty mirage]

Remember when it was good in SL?

[limber lion]

Why 2 Shiv's

[brave vector]

No sbs 😬

[spice spire]

I do 🙂

[wispy epoch]

Vanish

[spice spire]

Miss it

[untold mural]

yea thats why im here 😄

[wispy marsh]

If I have to reapply bleeds we aren't killing stuff fast enough at the key levels I do lol

[brave vector]

SBS cp gen too comfy for me

[wispy epoch]

Subterfuge

[gusty mirage]

Ceverion smells

Pass it on

[limber lion]

Woah

[wispy epoch]

Rupture and garrote

40sec dot

[spice spire]

99% sure it does yeah

[limber lion]

Smells good

[gusty mirage]

I bully you out of love

[wispy epoch]

Empowered

[coral ibex]

guess you don’t chain often

[dawn heath]

do i take caustic for mythic rashanan?

[wispy epoch]

Shadowmeld stealth too

[dawn heath]

or does it not work?

[stray adder]

I be chaining them grim batol yaaa feeeel me

[limber lion]

Was just smelling different fragrances yesterday

[wispy epoch]

And no, I don’t chain bc my tanks are brain dead

[gusty mirage]

Are you NA

[limber lion]

Gonna find a new go-to

[gusty mirage]

Or EU

[wispy epoch]

We pull 2-3 packs at a time

And kill

[fallow canopy]

If you want to try and parse and fail miserably if the add does not spawn directly on his chin yea

[wispy epoch]

I re enter stealth

[stray adder]

NA

[gusty mirage]

I’m determined to try to help you get a skardyn

[rare isle]

!wa

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[stray adder]

already declined an offer

but thks though

I must suffer

alone

[wispy marsh]

I cry for restealths 🥲 No shame, playing with random pugs. if I decide to push keys I'll prob do more stuff like mouseovers but don't need it rn

[amber brook]

How many GB runs in are you

[gusty mirage]

[wispy epoch]

Go night elf

[stray adder]

you dont wanna know

[dawn heath]

even if it barely hits

[wispy epoch]

/cast shadowmeld
/cast stealth

[wispy marsh]

I offered my help earlier

[amber brook]

Im at 24 and crying as well

[rotund oak]

2 shivs and MA.. u got me confused.. Do those nodes sim higher for u?

[dawn heath]

it must be better than the other talent no?

[gusty mirage]

The man is hitting those nick of time farming pains

[limber lion]

I got Skardyn's from my first vault I think

[fallow canopy]

I personally just blast boss and leave the adds to the dks and warriors and shit but it really does not matter

[gusty mirage]

@royal lantern suffered through like 60 or 70 to get his nick of time

Poor guy

[limber lion]

Heroic version though that shit was like a +4

[stray adder]

since you asked

[gusty mirage]

Jesus Christ

Your mental is shot

[stray adder]

that's like 34-35 in a week

[gusty mirage]

It’s joever

[coral ibex]

light work

[rotund oak]

im not that far away from that^^

[dawn heath]

go play cataclysm

[coral ibex]

back in the mines

[amber brook]

I'll join you soon comrade

may we find the skardyns

[limber lion]

That's not too bad

[cursive adder]

Does cloak grant immunity from Ara kara last boss Cosmic Singularity?

[real granite]

iiieaaa baadiii

[quasi stump]

id kill myself

[wispy marsh]

Bro, accept our help and get the trinket

[real granite]

lait weit

[limber lion]

Casual numbers comparing to the Plaguefall grind of the past

[wispy marsh]

That's a little too much for me

Well

[stray adder]

I am a crackhead

[wispy marsh]

I guess if I have a goal

[quasi stump]

honestly

[limber lion]

Good thing Skardyn's is not an every-season thing

Like Phial was

[quasi stump]

each run of a 10 dungeon

should give you a token

enough of the tokens

you get the loot you're farming for

[amber brook]

but the engagement will drop and blizzard be like NO

sad reality

[rotund oak]

i did like 100 runs to get countermeasure trinket back on legion TW from vault

[coral ibex]

are you guys ready for m+ priory next season?

[quasi stump]

i mean if you're farming for trinkets you're probably not only gonna do 10s

[untold mural]

without sudden is the best and this build is under 100k

[gusty mirage]

Dawn of time grind

[quasi stump]

M+ darkflame

[gusty mirage]

[untold mural]

not bad but not super good

[stray adder]

bad news is that the PoE2 early access got delayed so I don't have any excuse to stop playing for at least 5 weeks

[limber lion]

Don't know about it

Didn't play

AA ring from Court though

[gusty mirage]

Filthy casual

[amber brook]

Im terrified of heroic darkflame already

[limber lion]

That shit was ass

[gusty mirage]

@ember mural gave me mine

Rip bozo

[wispy epoch]

If priory is in the next season, all my weapon enchants will tank in price 😭

[limber lion]

Cute

[coral ibex]

darkflame is awful lol

[quasi stump]

that room where you do the fucking... moving the minecart around

[amber brook]

I dont want to deal with the candle mechs

[quasi stump]

is going to be worse than the room in DOTI where you're clearing the sand

like

its unbelievable

[wispy epoch]

Making like 100k every 3 days off my enchant build

Passive income

[weak forum]

healer mech*

[half moss]

Cries in brood prog

[gusty mirage]

GOOD ROOM

Everything broke stealth

Sick dungeon

11 out of 10

[rotund oak]

this build kinda contradicts its funcitonality if u ask me.Idk why u would want a 2nd shiv,u dont even play supercharger to buff ur finishers and u just rotate around a 1min KB cd that is nerfed to 50 poison stacks.Pretty bad build to run if u ask me

[stray adder]

yeah I'm not running a single darkcleft

[wispy epoch]

This fucking affix breaks my stealth

[stray adder]

this dungeon can f off lol

[wispy epoch]

Makes me wanna slam my dick into a closet sliding door

[gusty mirage]

I protested murozonds rise in 9.2

[limber lion]

Sudden Demise doesn't sim the damage at all though

So it's likely always going to sim less

[rotund oak]

the man said this build is less 100k than SD

..

its actually as bad a build u can get

idk

[gusty mirage]

[limber lion]

It's not

[gusty mirage]

Did a week 2 20 for portal never went back

[amber brook]

Not even a Tyr run?

based

[limber lion]

Not even close

[gusty mirage]

Fuck that place

I did it on fort week and said I’m good for the entire tier lmao

[wispy epoch]

What’re 20s the equivalent of?

Like a 10?

[amber brook]

but then again I didnt play rogue at the time, dk how bad it was there

10 now

[quasi stump]

do you guys think the mega dungeon this expac is gonna be as bad as DOTI

[gusty mirage]

I think 10s or 11s

[gusty mirage]

Probably

[wispy epoch]

I miss Kharazan

That was a good mega

[gusty mirage]

And it’ll be overtuned to shit for the first month

[rotund oak]

i miss mechagon

[wispy epoch]

Good I can sell it

[amber brook]

Khara was a maze

[gusty mirage]

Bro fuck junkyard

[limber lion]

The only bad thing about that build is literally 2 shiv's

that's it

[stray adder]

hahahaha

[limber lion]

And even that is fine

[gusty mirage]

Mechagon was cheeks

Workshop was ass

And junkyard was the bots

[rotund oak]

i hated the city one,junkyard was poggers my man

[gusty mirage]

And if you lost the bots it was extra ass

[stray adder]

for me the absolute worst dungeon is HoV

fuck that place

[rotund oak]

yup

[quasi stump]

i didnt play tazavesh but I like it because I think the brokers are attractive

[wispy epoch]

Depleting a key bc someone can’t stealth through workshop

Good times

[gusty mirage]

Tazavesh was fine after 30 nerfs

[spice spire]

Batman couldn’t get this outta me big dog

[gusty mirage]

Trash was deleting people week 1

[quasi stump]

brother im into way worse stuff

[rotund oak]

i liked it idk but yeah those robot spins and the garden boss .. so toxic 😂

[spice spire]

Bro I forgot the week one taz trash

Remember the first time you saw menagerie

[gusty mirage]

Garden boss can suck the entirety of my ass

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

Like real talk fuck Mechagon lmao

[spice spire]

Call me garden boss

[stray adder]

you guys remember pre-nerf So'leah

holy damage

[gusty mirage]

I unfortunately do

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

I remember mega dungeon release so’leah

[stray adder]

yes

[gusty mirage]

I sat in there with whispyr and his guild for 3 hours

[short comet]

darkflame will be dogshit idk who thought the candle thing was a good idea and my luck theyll throw in tol dagor in the season too ripp

[gusty mirage]

We wiped legit like 60 times

[spice spire]

Oh you mean the one so hard that you mega overgeared and still wiped?

[wild parcel]

with m+ talents how much u simm in st? This is normal for 622 ilvl ? Feel like is low dps in st https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/81BvqmnLg6PgNSBAmsevwL

[quasi stump]

you guys remember week one boralus when the tentacle smash knocked you back

[gusty mirage]

Yes cause the soak would just delete people

[spice spire]

I love soleah

[dawn heath]

damn

[spice spire]

Seems fine

[dawn heath]

we oneshot rashanan with my pug

i never got to practise the pug

my first pull on the boss

it was quite disasterous

popped my cds and it flew awy

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor I’d wipe in tazavesh for 5 hours with you again babe

[spice spire]

My pants are brown, never wiped a day in my life

[gusty mirage]

Hot

[dawn heath]

sincw when does a random pug oneshot 4th boss

bruhh

my parse was a mess

[quasi stump]

gonna do my 6 COT on fury war

just wanna turn my brain off rn

[spice spire]

I believe

Good luck

[stray adder]

dont you dare

back on the rogue

the only thing turn you're gonna turn off is hekilli

[quasi stump]

dude i've been a arms main for a long time

rogue is my alt

[stray adder]

stop living in the past

[quasi stump]

??

[dawn heath]

d00d

[quasi stump]

my hekili isnt on

[dawn heath]

you are a rogue main now

[stray adder]

rogue arc

[quasi stump]

[stray adder]

no more zugg zugg

[wispy epoch]

Wanna see my dps on boss fights vs our warrior?

Comparable 628 ilvl

[quasi stump]

ill zug zug when i want

[pure moth]

Zug zug rogue life

[spice spire]

You know what

Just for that

Zug 50% more

Zug 3 times

[quasi stump]

Zug Zug Zug

[stray adder]

Quake you do logs review right?

[wispy marsh]

ROGUE MAIN OR BUST

Rogue main AND bust

[wispy marsh]

which boss?

[wispy epoch]

It was a heroic boss don’t worry

[stray adder]

this person plays video games for sure

[wispy marsh]

I'm not a mythic raider, I only have my H parses to W off of

[ember mural]

Just happy to game with the homies

[wispy epoch]

Well balancing is done around mythic and upper keystones

So…

[rare isle]

As crafted weapon on an alt, should i make everforged stabber or siphoning stiletto?

[stray adder]

stabber

[wispy epoch]

Nobody ever said “oh shit fury warrior is doing too good on heroic Brood”

[stray adder]

stiletto is bait

[wispy epoch]

And nerfed them 3 times

[rotund oak]

welcome to the real world fam

[spice spire]

Yeah

[wispy epoch]

Turn your hekilli on

[stray adder]

waht you think

[spice spire]

Same

Even if they prog without me

[wispy marsh]

I just care about where I compare to other rogues playing my class. Most in guild groups when I am slamming pugs for sick parses.

[nova aspen]

nice log

[wispy epoch]

Blacklist uhhh, crippling poison

Blacklist…

Slice and dice

[spice spire]

Haven’t seen this bit before.
4.7, still young cut down in its prime

[wispy marsh]

I've actually really considered joining a Mythic guild for this raid

[royal lantern]

C R I N G E

[wispy marsh]

It's been fun

[stray adder]

how is this cringe

[wispy epoch]

Best time to. Lots of raids are missing a rogue or only have 1

[stray adder]

tell me

[limber lion]

It's a joke

[wispy epoch]

I’m just in a 4/8m andy raid group, but that’s 5 mythic vault slots so I’m happy

[spice spire]

Tryan historically not a serious lad

[royal lantern]

:3

[wispy marsh]

The mythic vault is a good point

I'm just getting my dungeons slammed out and hoping for good gear from it

[wispy epoch]

Need that mythic Rakashan cape

So bad

[wispy marsh]

Mythic Skardyn's please sir

[rotund oak]

skadryn's doesnt exist

[wispy marsh]

I got a myth crystal this week

Pretty Pog

[wispy epoch]

Heroic transmitter

[rotund oak]

huge

[wispy epoch]

Separates the boys from the men

[solid ivy]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rotund oak]

ive sharded mine

[wispy epoch]

I’m over here playing 5D chess

My keystone group sees me jump off the cliff of grim batol to get an orb

Then shadowstep back

[ember mural]

I hope you at least had a good time at the party

[wispy epoch]

You and I are not the same

https://tenor.com/view/gus-gusfring-gif-24463299

I think I’ll push io score hard when I get off my 48 hr shift here

Been hitting 2mil dps frequently in 10s and 11s

+2ing and +3ing too

[subtle tundra]

yea dps is whatever

[wispy marsh]

I had a rogue shit talk me because of low rio so now I want to slam all 12's to at least be 2.9k (which is still low to some of y'all but decent for me)

[subtle tundra]

thing is you can face tank in 10s

you wont later

[wispy epoch]

When that 90 second timer happened

12s became mediocre

Now it’s 14s

[subtle tundra]

no?

[wispy marsh]

F

[rotund oak]

at least 24

what 14

[wispy epoch]

Never forget me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/196724651039129600/1300594063430647838/Struggles_of_a_Mythic_Raider_1.mp3?ex=6724b3dc&is=6723625c&hm=9f766eeeb39fb564506aa2fdbc5be6d9fcb37af08132f40053b073d26aa4bc08&

[royal lantern]

let people humble brag if that makes them feel better about themself

its the same shit as all those guys going "omg im soooo bad at the game, only 95 on all fights :cccccccc"

[subtle tundra]

gym into rock trolling

i cant wait

bleed build with no tea

!!!!!!!

[wispy marsh]

Are 95's good??? Wouldn't know

[worldly sail]

95 is below average, 99 is average, 100 is barely above average

[wispy marsh]

I'm jk boys, don't kill me

[worldly sail]

[rotund oak]

its actually on the top end of the best parsers so yeah it is

[strange python]

Thats not alot bro, i did 33 on my hunter when it dropped and now rogue has 35 and it still didnt drop

[subtle tundra]

you guys get 95s?

[peak saffron]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rotund oak]

bro prolly parsing keys

[stray adder]

that's 34 GB in that screenshot in a week

[ashen rover]

um I parse 99 in all my keys u can call me god gamer

[wispy marsh]

I appreciate the explanation❤️ , I was just messing around though. I'm one of those dummies that'll rekill a boss until I have full 99's

[rare isle]

What weapon embelish should i go for? Or should i just dont get one and get on offpieces instead in the future?

[wispy marsh]

Waste my entire day and life for 1% difference

[wispy epoch]

Hey guys did I do good? Can I get feedback

[rotund oak]

idk how to react about that hekili,ild prolly break ur keyboard

[wispy marsh]

Why you trolling on Eonar and Argus #booted

[rotund oak]

dw ild buy u another

[limber lion]

Only one r1 and 2 ugly oranges idk man

[strange python]

Bro...

Thought it was total

Damn

[spice spire]

Average log review requester

[strange python]

Fucking hell

[wispy epoch]

Hey guys how are my Argus carry sales kills? Any feedback???

[rotund oak]

are u here to flex ur sht

[strange python]

!musclebrah

[rotund oak]

this is getting annoying

[thorn fjord]

7 years ago

Washed

[stray adder]

there is like 10 people who plays WW

[rotund oak]

who cares

[thorn fjord]

[wispy marsh]

After parsing yesterday and running Queen today, I can say with certainty that I prob won't orange that fight in pugs unless a bunch of people die 😭 looking at the top logs 60% of the raid dead lol

[wispy epoch]

I’m super washed

[spice spire]

Honestly though (and this is no shade at anyone) my most annoyed moment was after the partition weeks when people were like “my parses were 99s and now they’re only 90s what am I doing wrong?!?!”

Blud ur not fighting against 590 rats week one anymore

Or less of them

[limber lion]

So many kills and not a single r1

[wispy epoch]

I quit WoW for Conan Exiles for like all of Dragonflight

[limber lion]

Idk man

[spice spire]

And like they played well

[spice spire]

Tell him king

[subtle tundra]

idk i cant parse the adds fights

cause i never get to pad

[wispy epoch]

Impossible when half the people in the group are told to kill themselves to first scythe

[limber lion]

So?

[wispy epoch]

You’d have to kill the boss in like 4 mins

Ok dude

[limber lion]

Sounds like excuses to me

[ashen rover]

I can't parse 1st boss for the life of me ahahah

[wispy epoch]

I got a rank 1 on coven

[wispy marsh]

I think my highest parse ever was world 6th back during BFA. I'd lose my mind for an actual r1

[wispy epoch]

That’s like

[wispy marsh]

I quit during sl/df to play ffxiv

[subtle tundra]

im just bad man

[coral ibex]

show fflogs

[wispy marsh]

Bro not like this

[wispy epoch]

I lost all my good rogue parses from realm changing

I did rogue all of BfA

[tropic tulip]

Hey guys, im struggling a bit with mist first boss, im doing like 2m dps on it idk if thats good, but should we like death mark when the mob start taking dmg or a bit before

[wispy epoch]

What level key

[tropic tulip]

13

[wispy epoch]

He’s trolling

[tropic tulip]

new to it so no

:x

[wispy epoch]

Do you have an aug in your group?

That’s really good dmg even on 2 target without aug

[limber lion]

It's not that cool

I mean it is pretty cool

[wispy epoch]

With aug it’s meh

[limber lion]

But once you start getting them, there's nothing else to aim for

[tropic tulip]

ye, what im basicly doing is just pooling energy when mob is 25-30 and send everything

but it feels like ive still have more to give but he dosent take dmgs anymore

rofl

[kindred hinge]

Wish I could go ham on that boss but no, I am usually the one that have to pop cd on tree to make sure we don't die from anemic dmg because everyone hold

[limber lion]

Boost runs are one of the best ways to parse, highly recommend em

If you want money and parses

[wispy epoch]

I mean best you can do is roll vanish empowered garrote and rupture into his increased damage phase then let loose your cds

[drowsy hatch]

Be happy with clearing the content you want to clear = )

[limber lion]

I just use a KB on it and that's it

[wispy epoch]

Not true. Big parses come from speed kills

[limber lion]

Sending DM and KB on the boss once the tree drops down

[limber lion]

Not really

[wispy epoch]

Unless you’re healing

[limber lion]

No

Legit not true

[subtle tundra]

parses 🛌

[wispy epoch]

Healing parses come from boosts

[kindred hinge]

Did that once or twice in pug. Was not enough. The two other monkeys are not sending anything

[limber lion]

Dps parses also can come from boosts

I didn't do any speedruns or anything of that sort in Sepulcher or SOD

I just did boosts

And my parses were pretty good

[wispy epoch]

Let’s see

[limber lion]

You asked

[wispy epoch]

Stop bragging

[limber lion]

I just delivered as you asked for it, that's all.

[wispy marsh]

This was my claim to fame in BFA, worked my ass off for it. Went from a rogue who parsed greens in raid to a 99'r because I met a rogue who absolutely DUMPED on me in dps. Really nice guy too until Ashvane trinket dropped and I wouldn't trade. Refused to help me after that. Joined the rogue discord and been here since. It's been an adventure.

[stray adder]

he earned the bragging rights tbh

[winged sun]

Ceverion, crit dawnthread is best for m+ overall dps?

[kindred hinge]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[limber lion]

Oh shit nice, I never got Azeroth's champ

Always big respect for the Azeroth Champ boys who pulled through that

[winged sun]

Ppl are using different embellishments

For m+

[wispy epoch]

I forgot how hard rank 4 was to get

[limber lion]

Embellishments are pretty bad and don't really matter honestly.

As long as you use something, you're fine

Just like Casual says in the pin

[wispy epoch]

My claim to fame are all of my realm’s keystone first +15d

15s

And all the records

[wispy marsh]

I want to be this good

[waxen oyster]

cev is right tbh esp with current sin design

[wispy epoch]

During Legion and uhhh

[waxen oyster]

boost runs give you time to spatter

[wispy epoch]

Warlords

Spatter didn’t even exist

Back in my day

[limber lion]

And with so many bosses having adds, the longer the adds survive, the better

[wispy epoch]

Come back after DG

[subtle tundra]

back in your day

[wispy epoch]

ff

DF

[drowsy hatch]

Personally my claim to fame

[subtle tundra]

youre not the only one

[drowsy hatch]

Is having a HUGE peen

[limber lion]

Spatter didn't exist in my day either

Back in Shadowlands'

And it worked out pretty fine

[subtle tundra]

no need to compare dick sizes

btw

y'all bad regardless

[limber lion]

The faster the boss dies, does not necessarily mean that you'll do more damage

[wispy marsh]

I remember being awake for like 70+ hours straight to farm out the last one I needed the last week of reset, lol, crackhead energy

[wispy epoch]

I’m doing like 100 times this dps anyway

[limber lion]

Fight length matters a lot

[wispy epoch]

Means I’m objectively better

[limber lion]

If a boss dies in 1.5mins, you'll probs do less damage than someone that kills it in 2.5mins

Just because of cds

[wispy epoch]

Bc he’d get 2 of DM

Yeah

[limber lion]

Or if a boss dies at 6.5mins instead of 5

Yep

[wispy epoch]

Time to dox your toon name

Brb

[limber lion]

Yeah, I couldn't do it. The legendary essences were too much for me

[wispy epoch]

Kidding though

[waxen oyster]

i didnt have the patience to camp out the nazjatar crates

[limber lion]

Yeaaah me either

I did do the degen bubble-grind for the best gear

In 8.2 or whatever

[wispy epoch]

God

Bubble grind

Fuck me

All those rng gear

[limber lion]

I think I remember seeing you post like 5 details screenshots the past few days hmm

[limber lion]

Yeah that shit was ass

Trying to find the correct item WITH a socket

[manic quartz]

Am i playing right if i play the normal TTK st build and just spam envenom as much as i can even when not on CD''s?

[limber lion]

Love me some of that rng

[subtle tundra]

pretty sure context matters

[limber lion]

Yeah just blast

[limber lion]

Exactly Varas

You're getting it

[spice spire]

Yeah even if you weren’t at most it’s like 0.4%

[wispy epoch]

How much % if boss dies and I missed an envenom and 2 mutilates bc I was trying to chain envenom

[spice spire]

The amount that qualifies for “no hoes”

[wispy epoch]

That’s why critical thinking plays a part

If boss is at 40% sure

Chain envenoms

At like 3%

I’m going on empty

[limber lion]

Less thinking more blasting

[wispy epoch]

To fire off my last ones

[limber lion]

:wicked:

[spice spire]

Usually at the end

Ur proccing bs too

So like

You can also send and gain more

[wispy epoch]

I’m rupturing the most inconsequential add to get energy back

[spice spire]

Ur gambling

[spice spire]

Death

[wispy epoch]

Crystals? I’m rupturing

Little voidlings? Rupturing

[spice spire]

Counterpoint

Dn is up and you’re chaining like crazy

Envenom step envenom step envenom kill the group

Big

[wispy epoch]

I don’t know all these acronyms off the top of my head

[spice spire]

Darkest night

Or deez nuts

Either way

[limber lion]

haha got em

[wispy epoch]

Well I’m putting my full combo points on main target

Then I’m rupturing something

[quiet oar]

[spice spire]

Yeah but envenom kills quicker and gains you energy there checkmate pal

[wispy epoch]

Has anyone ever calculated energy return based on rupture durations?

[spice spire]

And you keep the dn buff

8s

Is where it’s worth

[worthy lintel]

new to rogue is there anything I can do for this weeks affix other than cloak of shadows, or dwarf racial passive?

[wispy epoch]

Am I capped on energy?

[spice spire]

That’s about it

[limber lion]

Noup

[spice spire]

Can cv it too

[kindred hinge]

Play with a shaman

[fleet turtle]

guys fatebound is better than deathstalker you play wit it ?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gFKGGqoJWF76dDJXqdH61R

[wispy epoch]

Be a good bitch for your healer and/or paladin and/or monk

[spice spire]

Nah but darkest night gets you 40 energy and does more damage than a rupture

[wispy epoch]

For ST

[quiet oar]

Quake

[spice spire]

Hi

[wispy epoch]

I can have both

[fleet turtle]

yeah i talk for ST

[quiet oar]

Can you tell me

Why my DN didnt get consumed

when i finished with 7 cps

[wispy epoch]

Bugs

[worthy lintel]

I watched the dragon boss on grim batol heal so much because my affix wasnt getting cleansed and we had two pallys and a shaman in the group

[limber lion]

Because you used Rupture and not Envenom

[spice spire]

Log and timing available?

[limber lion]

🕺

[quiet oar]

I ditn not

[wispy epoch]

Algari health pot

[quiet oar]

Ye sec

[worthy lintel]

W ill do that ty

[wispy epoch]

Or… wound poison like a mad man

[wispy marsh]

Did a dawn 11 yesterday, head into last boss with 11 minutes, affix goes off and we had to do the 2nd phase with double the health, lol

Still timed it but we were on that boss FOREVER

[spice spire]

I’m aware of a mark disappearing bug

[wispy epoch]

I’d jump off

[spice spire]

Haven’t had the context to replicate it but did it twice in a siege

[kindred hinge]

Have they changed shaman poison totem since last time this affix was there? Because they just drop it and affix does not exist anymore

[wispy epoch]

2min CD now

[limber lion]

Yup gotta use recall

[wispy epoch]

So now with downtime they can cast it every 1.5 affixes

Bc moving between pulls

[kindred hinge]

Or they use recall yes

[wispy epoch]

Idk wtf recall is guys

[spice spire]

Just have two shamans

Totemic recall

[limber lion]

Totemic Recall

[wispy epoch]

Okay

[limber lion]

It refunds the cooldown

[spice spire]

Resets your cd

[kindred hinge]

Basically a CD that reset the CD of your last totem

[spice spire]

Yeah Cev

[limber lion]

And that has a 3min cd

[spice spire]

One brain cell

[wispy epoch]

Is it worth

[spice spire]

Ty king ily

[limber lion]

Yuuup

[spice spire]

Probably,
I mean ele used it anyway

For lava totem before changed

[wispy epoch]

I’m happy when affixes give us mastery or crit

Haste affix

Naw

[limber lion]

I used it with my Enha as well before this week

Very sick

[spice spire]

Haste is decent ST

[wispy epoch]

What do shamans sacrifice for totemic recall on poison tide

No healing tide?

[quiet oar]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PGF7Zy9zgAn2YbWX#fight=8&type=casts&pull=2&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%24163346668.0.0.Rogue%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24457280&start=15996635&end=16016952&view=events&source=9

[kindred hinge]

You have it as a heal too but there it can be likely be better to do it on other totems

[quiet oar]

I had 7 CPs

[wispy epoch]

Poison cleanse*

[kindred hinge]

It's any totem with a shorter than 3 min cd

So nearly all of them

[quiet oar]

i mean it was 0,1 seconds

prolly lag?

desync?

[quiet oar]

Ye

[limber lion]

I'm confused

What is the issue?

[quiet oar]

It didnt get consumed

its just run out

[wispy epoch]

Maybe it ran out prior to registering your 7cp envenom

[quiet oar]

Ye prolly lag/ping issue

[wispy epoch]

.1ms is very narrow

[quiet oar]

Yeah but it was close enough i registered something wasnt right

[limber lion]

Oh yeah

[wispy epoch]

Crazy how you fixated on that. When I miss a darkest night I’m like

[limber lion]

Just looks like networking issues to me