assassination

[spice spire]

Ty jez

[limber lion]

!tott

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[spice spire]

Appreciate figured you’d know

[vivid mulch]

Alright, well ill learn with time :)

[wild lantern]

@vivid mulch I’m an ATT dev so feel free to DM me with questions

[last otter]

dragon tempered?

[wild lantern]

Currently on vacation but I’ll respond as I’m able 🙂

[spice spire]

Yep one of our talents that lets you place two poisons per type on rather than one of each

[last otter]

ohh

my non lethal doesnt matter as much?

[arctic socket]

Say less

Count me in

[coral ibex]

nonlethal doesn't matter much

[last otter]

okok

[drowsy hatch]

youre just taking crippling and whichever one you pick from the rogue tree there

[coral ibex]

you have crippling which is just a slow, and then either atrophic for the raid buff (3.6% damage reduction from target) or mind numbing for m+ utility (reduced attack/cast speed)

[drowsy hatch]

for nonlethal

[young light]

Some tanks hate crippling though 😛

[drowsy hatch]

they can deal with it

[coral ibex]

yea who fuckin asked them

[young light]

Lmao

[last otter]

okokok

[spice spire]

Seek help bestie

[young light]

YEAH FUCK the tanks cries in veng DH

[spice spire]

I appreciate your work tanking

[young light]

You wouldn't say that when you see it 👀

[spice spire]

Yes I would

It’s a hard role in keys

And anyone who shits on a tank for messing up

Would be better placed in their shoes

[coral ibex]

dont die, dont let me get melee'd, ur a good tank

[spice spire]

Route bad? We learn

[drowsy hatch]

dont make me take tricks

[young light]

For sure. Love it when mob packs are stronger than bosses

[spice spire]

Wonky grouping? We learn

Like

I don’t expect perfection, just do your best homie

[young light]

Always

[spice spire]

Same shit with healers

[haughty lantern]

frame perfect shadowmeld into stealth or you get kicked

[spice spire]

Now dps I’ll clown all day

[vivid mulch]

Anyone know what weakaura shivz use?

[coral ibex]

who?

[young light]

DPS that pump damage = ok, DPS that pump damage + actually help control packs = gods

[coral ibex]

[young light]

DO you have a screenshot

[vivid mulch]

ye

one sec

[ebon geyser]

do weee need to have a % haste ? i feel like im allways runing out of energy in boss fights , and sims keep telling me to replace haste items ... pls help

[drowsy hatch]

no we dont

[coral ibex]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[coral ibex]

!haste

fugma

[drowsy hatch]

I forget what command youre looking for

[coral ibex]

the one that says haste doesnt matter

[haughty lantern]

the pooling one

[coral ibex]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[drowsy hatch]

not the pooling one

[coral ibex]

no

[drowsy hatch]

its like playstyle

[coral ibex]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[drowsy hatch]

yeah

[spice spire]

Proud of you guys

[young light]

Maybe Afenar?

[spice spire]

That looks like luxthos to me

[young light]

I thought Luxthos was more narrow

But you could be right

[spice spire]

It’s been a bit

[young light]

I think you are right with Luxthos though

[vivid mulch]

?

[quartz spear]

M+ question: Any reason to Mutilate in a large pack assuming Caustic is already up?

[young light]

https://wago.io/HJe5_pfNm

[vivid mulch]

I dont know much about weakaura's i just wanna know my debuffs better

[drowsy hatch]

no, mut is only for spatter

in aoe

[quartz spear]

Ok ty. Follow up noob q: What's determining whether FoK gives more than 1cp?

(other than ctw)

[drowsy hatch]

Seal Fate

[spice spire]

Seal fate

Crits

Essentially

[quartz spear]

Oh ok ty

[vivid mulch]

which should i download

just wago?

[spice spire]

Companion iirc

[random fossil]

are we running 2/2 lethality in st or has that changed?

[spice spire]

I did this last week

[young light]

I dont use the app tbh

[coral ibex]

bruh what

just copy the string

[spice spire]

Oh god she’s gonna pull out the screenshot

[young light]

you have weakaura addon installed right?

[drowsy hatch]

noo

[coral ibex]

click copy import string

[drowsy hatch]

yeah that's still normal

[random fossil]

sik

[vivid mulch]

nope, installing rn lol

[coral ibex]

i run 1/2 leth

2/2 subt

[tawdry flint]

is TTK only showing one bar on the updated whyspr edit?

[drowsy hatch]

in ST? I'm sure that's fine too

[random fossil]

oh shit we doing subt shenanigans in st as well?

[young light]

Yeah install that, then as subterfuge said. Press copy import string, then type /wa in game, press import button, paste string and press confirm. You should be golden

[rare jackal]

flensing knives got fixed right

[drowsy hatch]

they both work prob. 2x lethality more common

[old hedge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

Ye

[vivid mulch]

nice start lol

[deep breach]

hi! looking for some advice about what we are doing in between KB window. Are you just maintaining bleeds and trying to stay above 50 energy because of the new thistle tea change?

[haughty lantern]

oh god my eyes

[spice spire]

Yep

[young light]

thats fine. Close WA

[spice spire]

I’m between maintain bleeds

[rare jackal]

rogue rotation be like

[vivid mulch]

yeah ik xd

[drowsy hatch]

That's how WA is supposed to be

[spice spire]

Maintain envenom buff

And chill

[coral ibex]

thats what they look like when you preview the entire WA

mine too

[vivid mulch]

hope its gonna be nice tho, can keep track of everything now

i had to mouseover my KB debuff to know when to use shiv lol

under the enemy's hp bar

[coral ibex]

wow

[young light]

Dedication that

[vivid mulch]

Well i learned that when its at the bottom right corner

thats around 8 - 9 sec

[balmy condor]

Longboi

[peak musk]

!shiv

[vivid mulch]

i use shiv there

[drowsy hatch]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[indigo mulch]

Is there a way to garantee you getting 7 coin flips in your opener? 😒 I'm trying fatebound for the first time and i keep getting to 6 but never to 7 for the buff

[vivid mulch]

damn cant get in now lol

[spice spire]

Whispyr’s shiv icon glows

[balmy condor]

No

[spice spire]

Makes it pretty easy ngl

[indigo mulch]

So if you just get 1 flip in your opener your just fucked for that pull?

[vivid mulch]

doesn't this one aswell?

[spice spire]

[winged sun]

QUAKE

[balmy condor]

Idk bout fucked, but you have to get the capstone later

[vivid mulch]

Surely it does

[winged sun]

HI

[spice spire]

I simp for the blue haired man

[haughty lantern]

hiiiii whispyr :3

[spice spire]

Hello zeross

How are you today king

[balmy condor]

Hello

[winged sun]

36 hrs left !

[spice spire]

Hell yeah

[winged sun]

Good good

[spice spire]

[haughty lantern]

no zac here either zeross

wonder where he went

[winged sun]

How are u guys

[balmy condor]

Yet

[indigo mulch]

I mean yeah, you can get it on the second DM but i was just wondering if there was a way to garantee you getting to 7 early on.

[spice spire]

Nah zeross is a sin main now

[indigo mulch]

😦

[winged sun]

True true

[winged sun]

@midnight mist prove him wrong G

[spice spire]

Work is work but it’s been a chill day how are you king

[keen spruce]

Gm zeross

[haughty lantern]

it's a shmeepy 😄

[winged sun]

Chill week just few prep then i’ll poof out for a 10 day vacation

[coral ibex]

zacro on his way to sow discord about envenom stacks

[keen spruce]

[winged sun]

I think i’ll sleep now tho just wanted to say hi

Oh and

[haughty lantern]

guys i know it's a but this still goes insanely hard

[young light]

does it?

[coral ibex]

full set andy

[winged sun]

I probably said it 100 times but i have 2x 639 daggers now

[keen spruce]

I like the original better

[merry bison]

ok ross

[soft shale]

big kukri

[spice spire]

@normal mist tell him the about the bennies coach

[young light]

I want the Mantle of the Forgemaster's Dark Blades

but cba

[winged sun]

Ok guys heading off to bed gn

[wispy marsh]

Sleep is for the weak

[spice spire]

Gn king

[ebon geyser]

is there any loot spec we need for grimbatol trinket? ive done more than 30 runs and no trinket

[dapper cradle]

outlaw is the move

since it filters out the dagger

[winged sun]

Dw i sleep only 28 hrs a week

[ebon geyser]

really?

[limber lion]

man loves his zerossthinking

[dapper cradle]

ya bro

[spice spire]

Yes

[wispy marsh]

Then you've earned it, gn king

[winged sun]

Gn gn

[midnight mist]

wtf!

[haughty lantern]

we found him!

[west cove]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[normal mist]

good job.

[bronze pike]

r u guys exicted for the new annulet comin?

[spice spire]

No

Are you

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[bronze pike]

no

is anyone?

[spice spire]

Hell yeah brother

Idk

Probably

[warm vortex]

I feel like im doing bad on st for my ilevel

Is the damage breakdown correct?

[limber lion]

Stop looking at damage breakdowns first of all

[warm vortex]

Ok

i removed it so my eyes cant see it

[limber lion]

Very good

Just like stats, it's information

But is it relevant information?

Not really

It can help if it's suuper far off, but usually not

[spice spire]

It had some relevant information (idk how accurate details uptime % is, but that’s fairly relevant)
Logs will always be king in deciding how you’ve done

[warm vortex]

Tbh im just worried

i am top dps tho

and ill look at logs in a sec

[spice spire]

[warm vortex]

Only reason i asked is friends new to assa is doing fights like 10 ilevels lower and he is getting close to my dps and i just feel like im doing something wrong

[limber lion]

Could very well be

I also did a key yesterday and did more dps than a 629 ilvl rogue

And I'm 614

[coral ibex]

would you rate them as more of a gamer overall than you

[bronze pike]

gotta post a log fren

we really cant help without one

there could be some issues rotationally that your not getting

or your friend is cracked

[coral ibex]

btw can i see your ui in combat?

[spice spire]

What’s this we he ain’t post Ret logs lil bro

I actually don’t know if you’ve played rogue in a bit.
Ik you did at SOME point

[warm vortex]

yeye

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ft3TLV4gdh9vrcNx

[warm vortex]

Basic blizzard hud

[bronze pike]

not tww sin

[warm vortex]

only thing on it that isnt there is a Clear the scene weak aura

[bronze pike]

but a fair bit

not enough to help

[spice spire]

The case of the new rogue

[bronze pike]

playing and gearing up my outlaw again with anniversay gear

[spice spire]

I mean not much has changed from the last iteration at this point

Outlaw

I’m gonna be sick

Why would you do this to me remby

[bronze pike]

cause i like clicking

and outlaw is the ultimate clicking challenge

[stray adder]

clicking you said?

[honest needle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[frank minnow]

bruh

I have been playing ass since i came back to retail and slowly been gearing up, doing research into how to play some of the specs from wowhead and after going into a raid last night I was like "Damn something doesn't feel right" so this morning I was in an LFR and noticed some assasination rogues doing more damage than I was and as a good scholar I started reading their break downs and noticed their hunt was doing incredibly more than I was. Then I reread all my hero talents and realized

I HAVEN'T BEEN USING DEATHSTALKER MARK SINCE I STARTED PLAYING.

SMH

[spice spire]

That’ll do it

[frank minnow]

I didn't know you needed to open with ambush to start the deathstalker chain and so this WHOLE time I've been garroting at the start of fights

please shoot me now

I thought your ambush procs would start the chain

[coral ibex]

they do with subterfuge

well not blindside

[spice delta]

626 sacbrood vs contract guys, which one is better, sims the same

[coral ibex]

but ambushes during subterfuge windows do

[frank minnow]

right BUT

[normal mist]

the part when you say "doing research on wowhead" does that also mean reading? hehehe i jest i jest

[frank minnow]

the amount of damage I was losing in my opener with all my cds without deathstalkersa

[normal mist]

You're a better player now

[frank minnow]

jesus christ it was alot

[coral ibex]

lol yea

[frank minnow]

tbh reading guides is one thing

but testing and watching players

is how you really learn

I watch details and read break downs alot

[warm vortex]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[normal mist]

if you read you'd know how to use your mark

don't shoot yourself on the foot there

[frank minnow]

Yea. regardless it was a big win for my dps

[normal mist]

ofc it was

you playing the game now 😛

[frank minnow]

I had everything else down "Timing Kings ect"

but that one thing was so huge

[normal mist]

The dps spike from "not using the hero tree" to using it

oof

[indigo mulch]

Okay i'm banned from using transmitter in raid now :S apperantly it DC's people wtf

-_-"

[normal mist]

thats a reason to do it

[frank minnow]

so wait, if I use up the 3 marks on a mob, does the buff I get to start the chain again work if I use envenom on a new target?

[indigo mulch]

I don't have a skardyns :/

[high epoch]

New to ass rogue but holy jeebus this class feels so much better than what I was playing previously

[normal mist]

3 marks - DN - 3 marks - DN

its a loop

DN -> darkest night

[frank minnow]

Right, but does DN allow me to use it to switch targets? or it doesn't matter.

[indigo mulch]

anyone know if there is a fix for the trinket?

[thorn fjord]

[indigo mulch]

Not being able to use transmitter because it dc's people is going to fuck me over :c

[frank minnow]

shadow i want you to know something

[jovial imp]

DN empowers your envenom, i guess you can cheese some dps by using it in low hp targets? and then u chain DN on to another low hp mob

[frank minnow]

I was being evil and used transmitter in dorm after you made that comment

and didn't realize you have to stand on the transmitter to get the agility

LOL

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[floral fractal]

don’t forget that Supercharger doesn’t work on DN under 7 points

[lethal turtle]

Is the momentum of despair 2nd portion crit dmg all dmg?

[floral fractal]

i miss Echoing Repremand

[normal mist]

it was fixed iirc

or is it another bug

[floral fractal]

so you can cast 5 points on a supercharger and it counts on DN?

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah it works now

But it's just not worth doing

[frank minnow]

why would you waste shiv for supercharger and not save it for your windows on kings

[noble flume]

Guys what would be better for raid, transmitter + ara kara, transmitter + skardyn or just dont transmitter?

[frank minnow]

in reference to DN

[normal mist]

sim

[floral fractal]

fuck transmitter

[limber lion]

No transmitter if you use Skardyn

[indigo mulch]

Apperantly Transmitter DC's people in raid though

[noble flume]

already simmed , ara kara + transmitter, but idk its weird thats why i ask

[floral fractal]

sometimes it lines up and you accidentally shiv on DN, you’d be lying if you say it doesn’t happen

[frank minnow]

Im not lying because i didn't use DN until today

LOL

[floral fractal]

lolol ah well that makes sense

[frank minnow]

remember the whole "omg i didn't know how to use my hero talents" speech haha

[floral fractal]

i just came on, slow period at work

[normal mist]

Your going to be unstopabble LOL

[frank minnow]

bruh my life is a lie

[normal mist]

that CLICK

[thorn fjord]

all of ours are

the simlation duh

[floral fractal]

remember, if it falls off and you stealth, make sure you ambush and don’t accidentally Garrote out of stealth

vanish*

[frank minnow]

true, it is an addon that makes it so my stealth and regular bar are the same? im assuming so

they are not seperated for me

I think its probs some addon I need to remove.

[floral fractal]

ambush is in my stealth bar yea, has to be. my garrote is not tho

you can put spells in your Bar 2 so it’s usable in and outside of stealth

makes bar 1 more specific to stealth or not

and that’s all on Blizzard ui

[limber yoke]

Guys, using icy veins build for raid, single target. Last time my parses were atleast blue, now they are gray. I can see that there were changes in the talents since last week. Anyone with same issue?

[mint creek]

when do i press garrote in the st opener when i dont have Shrouded Suffocation?

cause id imagine i press it sometime before DM right?

[warm vortex]

Ok

first time using was properly

wanna see how it goes

:D

[drowsy hatch]

ambush mut gar rup should be fine

can do gar after rup depending on CP

[floral fractal]

i’d still do ambush out of stealth to garrote and then vanish garrote when the first one falls off. after that just keep it on target

[drowsy hatch]

that's fine too

probably better tbf

[floral fractal]

parsing is way more than damage, not dying is a good start 😆

i just do the Amb, garrote, rupture, DM, shiv, KB, shiv again, TT, then vanish and re garrote. simple

[west crown]

If you parse grey it’s a skill issue not talents

Or you died

[raw swan]

www

/wa

[drowsy hatch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[mint creek]

so basically do the same as if i had shrouded suffocation?

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah I mean if you still have imp gar it's the same logic

The only thing that's different is if you dont have both you dont have to vanish for it

[old hedge]

@limber lion hi, do you know if its possible on the deathstalker mark script to increase border thickness just of the purple border on the marked target but other targets have default border thickness?

[mint creek]

yeah true, makes sense, ty

[floral fractal]

whyspr’s plater import does something like that

[limber lion]

It doesn't

[indigo mulch]

Does anyone know if there is a fix to people dcing when using transmitter? Apperantly thats a thing.

[limber lion]

He colors the entire plate

[indigo mulch]

My RL just banned me from using it, im losing like 50k dps since i don't have skardyns

[floral fractal]

it makes the target bar purple

[limber lion]

Yes

Not the border

[floral fractal]

on his plater, i said something like that. not the exact but maybe it’ll help

https://wago.io/oEgXLFhtk

[limber lion]

Read his cmoment

[floral fractal]

i also use this

[limber lion]

Again

Please

[west crown]

Definitely still vanishing though

[floral fractal]

stfu and get off my dick lol

[drowsy hatch]

yeah totally its just for another reason

[warm vortex]

How the fuck did i not play with weakuras

i got every pandemic so muych easier

[limber lion]

duh

[keen spruce]

Can someone explain this interaction or if it's just a plater / ui display bug?

So I have DN up. I go into a pack. I ambush. So now I have a DSM on a target AND DN buff. I finish on, let's say, 6 CP. I still have 3 DSM stacks and DN buff. like the stacks don't drop as long as DN is active

then if I consume DN. I don't get CTW if DSM is on the target

and DSM stacks will consume normally

[limber lion]

Yes

It's a bug

Previously it did consume the marks

[sacred schooner]

thats why need consume dn asap

[limber lion]

But it's been bugged for a while

[keen spruce]

oh so it's not like you're getting the benefit of DSM while the marks stay on the target

it's just not interacting with them at all?

ic ic

so get DN off you asap even if you apply a new DSM before consuming it

[spice spire]

Yes

[keen spruce]

[old hedge]

in that case is it possible to cancel DN aura before opening again?

[verbal flower]

so according to my guild archon says assasination doesnt use madqueens in raid

[spice spire]

Archon

[west crown]

Basically just always ambush on opener if you don’t have 7cp going into opener

[cerulean nest]

any thoughts on skardyns + transmitter on M silken for damage amps?

see some people doing CDs like that and others more or less sending

[drowsy hatch]

I dont see why not if you're sending CDs on them anyways

[late kestrel]

ik i should sim it butttt any suggestions on trinkets that i can run both sub/sin on?

[limber lion]

Yes, but don't do that

[snow hamlet]

Why this log show 3 tail coin after rupture?

[gleaming gyro]

guys do you know any guides to assa rogue zekvir ?? with the updated talents?

[waxen oyster]

Just play the st build?

[late kestrel]

right now im running sacbrood and void reapers contract but wondering if a swap to treacherous transmitter would be worthwhile

[waxen oyster]

I did mine as outlaw first attempt idk

[waxen oyster]

you always want one on use as sin

[late kestrel]

for deathmark?

[waxen oyster]

yeah

[floral fractal]

ovi egg has been pretty legit, and void reaper. Grace just won’t drop for me

[late kestrel]

maybe will look into getting mad queens mandate then

seems decent both sin/sub

[floral fractal]

and it’s a 2 min Cd

[waxen oyster]

nah you want skardyn or transmitter

then a passive

[late kestrel]

no sacbrood?

[waxen oyster]

can use mandate but that is used outside cds

you can play skardyn and sac

[floral fractal]

i’ll swap the egg for grace when i get it

[late kestrel]

ok cool tysm

[waxen oyster]

at hero track ritual knife is the best

purely because it gives more stats

[sacred schooner]

i killed him using this build weeks ago 🙂 https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DAOFVFFBVRRVQmJBQCEFNVUVVVEYQUFiEUBEEFVVUCFA , let brann dispel first poison, vanish other 2, after brann will dispel again (hold cloak for emergency, like spyder etc)

[fallow canopy]

double jeopardy + rupture? not sure

[blazing tulip]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[thin zephyr]

On queen during her pull, can rogues shadowstep right when she pulls to dodge it per say?

[normal mist]

AFTER the initial pulling cast has been done, yes

[thin zephyr]

nice, ty!

[waxen oyster]

If you step in the circle around her even post pull

[normal mist]

be ware you're still being slowly pulled

[waxen oyster]

you insta die

or be a dragon ig and glide negates the entire mechanic

most useful part of that race

[drowsy hatch]

I just shadowstep to a ranged just before it

Much safer

[normal mist]

numbers must go up

[waxen oyster]

step a dk imo

is usually safest

[wispy marsh]

If you want maximum pumper damage

step boss

and slam keys

[waxen oyster]

those mfs just payphone with deaths advance

every forced movement mech

[drowsy hatch]

Well I'm saying that if you arent trying to skip it

and just let the pull go

[waxen oyster]

stepping boss is kinda sus

psure you'd die

[wispy marsh]

Nah

It keeps you outside of range

[waxen oyster]

i have a step tanks macro when i need to get around

[subtle tundra]

yep you step

[wispy marsh]

Just don't W forward into it lol

[subtle tundra]

the boss

on hc

[fresh horizon]

anyone has Darkest Night activating at 6 combo points?`or are my CPs bugging?

[spice spire]

Yeah

Once pull starts

Step

And you’re safe

[spice spire]

Did you shiv before

[wispy marsh]

The first time I did it I was anxious af

[spice spire]

If so supercharger

[nimble vector]

you can do it on mythic as well you just need to delay it so you spawn your puddle not in melee

[wispy marsh]

Raid leading and I told them if you die in p1 you're gone

[spice spire]

Same

[fresh horizon]

no, it was outside of KB

[spice spire]

supercharger only time that should happen

[wispy marsh]

Can't say that and then proceed to int into the boss

[waxen oyster]

ngl once on dh

i dashed back in

too soon

and got into the chomp hitbox

[fresh horizon]

kk i'll pay attention to it, see if it happens again. Might be my CP weakauras lagging with the amazing 9 fps

[waxen oyster]

idk why my terrorist reflexes spike when i play that class

[open canyon]

any fatebound talents for ST so i can simulate my char? please?

[old obsidian]

is heroic but im happy (':

[floral fractal]

who still uses W to move?! wtf, keybind that shit like a man

[waxen oyster]

i only have qe bound to strafing

no w movement

[proven belfry]

how exatcly does kingsbane window work

we sent cds then shiv into kings bane

[floral fractal]

keybind W and shift W, oh and shift space bar, game changers

[waxen oyster]

You press it with shiv

[spice spire]

Yeah

[proven belfry]

and just envenom envenom and send 2nd shiv?

[crystal helm]

What dps is decent to have on single target in a m+ run as assa? Feels like im whacking noodles against the boss outside of dm+kb window

[proven belfry]

on ST

[waxen oyster]

you apply poisons as you attack and it ramps up

[spice spire]

Send second shiv with 8s to go

[waxen oyster]

or you just get parried on kingsbane because wow is a good game

and ignore everything being said

[balmy condor]

Take your deathstalker talents and just swap to fatebound inevitable end + cold blood, gg

[raven panther]

If you have to choose 2 bis ring, does the ring from bloodhound horror (haste++ mastery) could be BIS ?

[spice spire]

Doesn’t matter what you do just stack up poisons passively

[waxen oyster]

Every time I get a kb parry

I want to commit

[spice spire]

Kermit

[balmy condor]

1 mil is doable on bosses, but yes, a burst spec does not do damage outside of burst

[past bobcat]

Whispyr did you kill Kyveza using fatebound?

[wispy marsh]

is racial /cast or /use when inputting it into a macro? I forget. Dark Iron Dwarf

[waxen oyster]

Well it could be worse

[late kestrel]

cold blood on sin - when do we use it? deathmark

[floral fractal]

aoe builds are you friend in m+

[waxen oyster]

You could be sub and be whacking with a literal pool noodle.

Outside cds

[nimble vector]

cast should work

[drowsy hatch]

macro to kb

[late kestrel]

love sub dont hate on us

[indigo thicket]

whats a decent haste level to aim for in raid and m+?

[spice spire]

Above 0

There’s no set number

[cerulean walrus]

An amount

Whatever the robot tells you

[late kestrel]

it doesnt entirely matter

[waxen oyster]

The amount that gives you more agi

in your gear

[late kestrel]

but obviously some haste helps with energy regen

[spice spire]

[waxen oyster]

nah it doesnt

energy is beyond cope

with haste

[drowsy hatch]

dont make me do the design command

[cerulean walrus]

Lmaoooo haste energy regen LOLLLL

[spice spire]

10% is 2 extra apm

[indigo thicket]

im at 6% and am energy starved on st in keys

[cerulean walrus]

LMAOOOOO

[drowsy hatch]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[spice spire]

Buddy at 20% you’re still starved

[nimble vector]

you will always be energy starved in st in keys

[cerulean walrus]

My brother in Christ you’ll be starved at 50%

[runic hinge]

That’s why I run 300% haste

[cerulean walrus]

[waxen oyster]

WAIT

a whopping

2 energy

per second

[cerulean walrus]

HUUUUUUUUGE

[waxen oyster]

[cerulean walrus]

God yeah fuck yeah gimme that 2 energy

Gimme that gimme that gimme that

[runic hinge]

I’m at like 28% and I’ll still starve big dawg

[nimble vector]

28% seems excessive

[indigo thicket]

thank you all

[cerulean walrus]

Bro uses a haste flask frfr

[drowsy hatch]

chaos flask always rolls on haste

[cerulean walrus]

Yummy yummy haste flask

Yeah Alchemical Haste

[waxen oyster]

the best is when my ritual knife debuffs my vers

[cerulean walrus]

[waxen oyster]

right before a big hit

blozzad?

hello

[cerulean walrus]

Just cloak the debuff bro don’t you know?

[waxen oyster]

real

[rotund oak]

thats why i dont like it personally

F that rng sht

[cerulean walrus]

Just proc it right when you need to cloak another thing

[mint valve]

is there an easier way to sim talents than making an entire build and simming each one of them seperately ?

[cerulean walrus]

Giga blightbone gamer

Cloak last second puke ritual knife combo

[quasi ingot]

hey guys with the announcement of 11.0.7 we get a ring again...do you think it will be bis? if im wearing that ring do you have any idea what the best build will be? asking somebody who can tell the future with their eyes closed. thanks in advance

[cerulean walrus]

[waxen oyster]

i wonder

can you pre immune

the debuff from knife

[cerulean walrus]

Brother

How

Would you know

[waxen oyster]

macro cloak to dm

[cerulean walrus]

[waxen oyster]

obv

in hc

do not do this in mythic

[cerulean walrus]

Ah yes

Ah yes

No you’d wait until last 6 seconds

[nimble vector]

dangerously based gameplay

[drowsy hatch]

bro doesnt have future sight

[runic hinge]

+1% damage taken

[runic hinge]

I do as the robit commands

[spice spire]

That set came out in like 2008 if he amazed if anyone had future sight tbh

[waxen oyster]

realistically you can probably just set up a WA

that puts a giant icon on your screen

[drowsy hatch]

might as well use hekili if you cant see into the future

[spice spire]

My jokes are actually insane

[waxen oyster]

if you get debuff while dm is active

[spice spire]

Delete this one nephew

[crimson zephyr]

is that left trinket by cahcen especially good for m+?

[cerulean walrus]

True put a fucking massive ritual knife icon covering your entire screen

[drowsy hatch]

no

[spice spire]

#1080572530554835072 back to the mines

[runic hinge]

Imagine cloak on cd

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah rip bozo

Just git gud

Demon Hunter RP

[waxen oyster]

i was disappointed to realize

you cant stoneform knife debuff

[cerulean walrus]

Oh nyoooooooo

Clearly ritual knife punishes mashing gameplay cause it’s based off abilities used/casted

[cerulean nest]

anyone have a good fireblood WA to tell you when theres an effect on you it can purge?

[waxen oyster]

Isn't it most debuffs

[chrome mirage]

Anyone got a reliable meld -> stealth macro

[cerulean nest]

it is most

and ive been using it for dps lol. still would like something to just light up

[waxen oyster]

its a weird ability honestly, having your dps cd tied to a dispel

[cerulean nest]

i just macro it to vanish tbh

[waxen oyster]

at that point you might as well play orc

[prime hull]

How do you use transmitter on queen ansurak (mythic), on pull the liquify stack happens right as you have to soak your transmitter? I keep almost dying.

[runic hinge]

I do like a cast sequence with meld then stealth and just mash it

[waxen oyster]

Also can blizz nerf queen

[cerulean walrus]

Deep down you know the answer

[waxen oyster]

because i dont want to be a gnome

[cerulean walrus]

It’s called

[waxen oyster]

ty

[cerulean walrus]

Not using that shit

[runic hinge]

Idk uhh @light jacinth made it I just copied

[gray horizon]

Or just hold your CDs

[chrome mirage]

Can you share it?

[gray horizon]

I mean if you're on the last boss in mythic and asking how to use your trinkets.... idk bro

Fyrakk was the same last tier

[nimble vector]

yeah 🙂 you just have to angle yourself in a way where your shit spawns away from where you will put puddles

[prime hull]

Thanks, I'll try that.

[spice spire]

Imagine posting nibren and not sending him a gif too wth

[cerulean walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[nimble vector]

you might be able to overlap your cloak to soak it + still immune first set of webs, not sure on the exact timing though

[runic hinge]

No im like 2000 miles from my computer

[velvet cairn]

does kb do more if there is adds to spatter on?

[runic hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/193423263387353088/1164071018025984040/ezgif.com-gif-maker.gif

[late surge]

since when did they remove dots from parasites on player

how I fix?

[quasi ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[dreamy ridge]

can someone give me some good talents for +10 keys? like tyrannical and fortified

[prime hull]

I was using vanish on the first set since it's part of my assassination opener.

[quasi ingot]

yea wowhead can brother! @dreamy ridge

[coral ibex]

yea here are some talents

[green magnet]

i see shit bout FB so I am checking the pins like a responsible person

[quasi ingot]

best build can confirm @coral ibex

[wispy marsh]

Not bad boys, didn't even have potion for for pull

[nimble vector]

is your guild breaking roots on 3rd set or are you all immuning

[fringe valley]

is there a soft cap on mastery for sin? if so what is it

[dreamy ridge]

ok i wasnt really sure if its good for those

[prime hull]

I am doing vanish -> gnome -> cloak -> gnome

I think we are all immuning.

[quasi ingot]

@dreamy ridge also i use Murlok.io to check out all the top 50 players builds and gear..etc

[coral ibex]

you are a fotm reroller just copy wowhead and go do keys

[wispy marsh]

Just realized no flask either, damn I'm trolling

[coral ibex]

[nimble vector]

alternatively you can try the VV build and do cloak > gnome > vanish > gnome and then cloak the explosion from the last pop

[waxen oyster]

same build every week

[quasi ingot]

are rogues even fotm atm?

[velvet cairn]

anyone know?

[coral ibex]

have you seen recent tier lists and wcl stats

[quasi ingot]

i have not good sir

[fallow canopy]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[quasi ingot]

i tend to stray away from tier lists and just try to enjoy the game

[coral ibex]

assa is always a top tier in the m+ tier lists and assa tops boss damage on many bosses

[waxen oyster]

Who stares at tierlists all day

[coral ibex]

fotm rerolling monkeys

[quasi ingot]

well ill be damn! a turtle made it to the water! good thing im playing my rogue again this xpac

[nimble vector]

you could beg someone for a freedom if neither of those things work, but vanish > gnome > cloak > gnome means you're probably getting smacked very hard on that last toxic explosion of the phase if that's a concern

[coral ibex]

they hear some youtuber say "assassination is doing a ton of damage rn they're A tier for sure" and they go POGGGGGGGGGGG

[prime hull]

I can confirm I fotm rerolled from ret paladin 😅 .

[hallow patrol]

you guys know what rotation to do ?

[quasi ingot]

@prime hull brother..ret is good

[waxen oyster]

Rogue is the only class i can main without being bored.

[coral ibex]

and then they come in this channel and ask for talent builds without reading anything

[dreamy ridge]

opinions on Twin Fang Instruments? its the only Myth trinket i have the ones that are S tier are champion

[quasi ingot]

@dreamy ridge sim it brother

[velvet cairn]

sim

[dreamy ridge]

true

[prime hull]

Our freedoms are all assigned already, will try moving cloak later if I die on end of p1, maybe I can evasion the last explosion.

[waxen oyster]

i got a warbound bow like wtf am i gonna do

real hunter chads only play surv

[fringe valley]

so after reading that if im understanding it correctly stacking as much mastery as possible is ok?

[dreamy ridge]

on raidbots?

[quasi ingot]

@dreamy ridge yea unless you wanna do the math in your head

[coral ibex]

you can if you want, you should just use the best gear according to sims

[prime hull]

Our other rogue left mid tier and we needed the rogue buff so I swapped.

[nimble vector]

yes if you do that you will probably be doing pretty well (within reason)

[fringe valley]

got it thanks!

[waxen oyster]

i mean what you do is

copypaste into topgear

and equip what the sim says

[spice spire]

No

[nimble vector]

you could sim how much of a dps loss the VV build is to be able to solo each root and cloak at the start / end of phase, but if the only issue is getting your trinket at the very start then you can honestly just tank standing in puddles on the ground for a few seconds before the first root

[spice spire]

VV is a big NO

[waxen oyster]

i wonder how lok's is doing

[spice spire]

You wanna max envenom stacks at all times possible

[waxen oyster]

they're running double outlaw

vanish every root set

[spice spire]

And VV does not

[spice spire]

No one’s ready for the outlaw conversation smh

Also lok is always pumping

Dude is nuts

[waxen oyster]

Does queen on mythic have specific burn phases?

[nimble vector]

I am aware but if it's causing significant problems it's worth considering

[nimble vector]

the lust at the end of the fight I guess, nothing else is really a burn phase, just hit the boss

[sour oasis]

I want to die

[prime hull]

Yeah I was considering playing outlaw, it seems quite good at the moment in both raid/keys.

[grand trail]

got baited

[sour oasis]

We will have a ring

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i was more curious why that spec isnt more considered

[sour oasis]

and i take a ring in the vault today vs crystal trinket

[waxen oyster]

Usually sin/sub are taken because a boss wants cds at certain times

[fringe valley]

okay got yes's and no's but all answers say just to sim understood lmao o7

[nimble vector]

it wasn't very good on the previous fights so people didn't play it after crafting daggers and gearing for sub / assa, and it suffers from downtime issues during the fight

[waxen oyster]

i mean ring is very good

and conteste

[prime hull]

I need to lookup where rogues are using personals on the queen fight.

Stuff kinda hurts.

[wispy marsh]

N, H, or M?

[prime hull]

Maybe elusiveness is worth it?

Mythic.

[nimble vector]

you need to feint the overlap of toxic explosion + liquify at like ~1:40ish, feint doesn't reduce the damage of toxic explosion but it does for the liquify damage

[waxen oyster]

like obvs on hc pirate felt better on queen than the other two specs

besides the transition timings

[nimble vector]

elusiveness is always better if you never make mistakes 🙂

[waxen oyster]

and watching adr run out

[nimble vector]

(you will make mistakes just play cheat)

[proud badge]

Still can't believe elusiveness is worse than cheat in m+, even now with the gcd change

I guess too many one shots

[coral ibex]

it isn't, elu is goated

[nimble vector]

I cloaked first root set, the last explosion in p1, the 2nd platform in p2 and then on shackles during p3, otherwise just feint liquify / wrests and basically anything in p3

[sudden sigil]

if you win a piece of loot in a raid grp and leave the grp and go offline does it take some time for the loot to arrive?

[nimble vector]

elusiveness is extremely good in m+, but it's more niche in raid because you are going to survive more often with cheat

[merry bison]

Why is it worse, doesn’t scale elu with gear so you can mostly tank any big mistakes and have feint on 100% cd

[prime hull]

Thanks for all the tips mate, it's very helpful.

[proud badge]

Worse isn't correct here, just the public opinion I guess. I could just try it out

[waxen oyster]

i feel only boss people play elu on in raid is kyveza

[prime hull]

Does feint work on wrest? Or were you running elusiveness.

[waxen oyster]

but that shit kinda kills you regardless

[nimble vector]

feint works on wrest

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah there's no reason to play cheat on kyveza

She just executes you

[nimble vector]

also pick a mage you trust and just shadowstep the circle in p3 every time

[waxen oyster]

ngl

being able to play bait and switch again

feels nice

[drowsy hatch]

So even if elu isn't that great it's better than nothing

[waxen oyster]

[west crown]

you progging queen?

[waxen oyster]

i mean im close

and i dont want to go gnome

[nimble vector]

[prime hull]

My guild paid for 3 race changes as it's on discount right now.

[waxen oyster]

i mean my mog looks aight on gnome

but its a fking gnome

[balmy condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1270066351863627918.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[coral ibex]

im so tempted to go dracthyr

but belf is so cute

[waxen oyster]

i say this while being a dwarf

btw

[coral ibex]

i wish i could preview it

[lapis saffron]

Who’d give up elven supremacy. Smh

[spice spire]

[waxen oyster]

i mean dracthyr are basically humans

[bright violet]

Hello is Energy starved Normal in long boss fights?

[waxen oyster]

unless you weird and play male

[spice spire]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[balmy condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871188656357015623/1230735406186631260/succ.gif

[waxen oyster]

i should call her

[lapis saffron]

Still lizard. People just feel better for hiding it

[spice spire]

What if instead of raising canes.

[balmy condor]

It was raising cocks

And I ain’t talkin chicken

[spice spire]

[drowsy hatch]

He means penis

[spice spire]

What’s good king

[waxen oyster]

honestly

[spice spire]

Ty wasn’t sure I followed. Appreciate that

[waxen oyster]

kinda sucks you cant be visage in the game menus

so when you look up your character

you still see a dumbass lizard

[drowsy hatch]

Yw I usually know when that comes up

[spice spire]

What if the lizard isn’t dumb

[waxen oyster]

void elf still has the best qol racial

50% off mogs

[dusty phoenix]

Why cant mogging be free

[waxen oyster]

real

[west crown]

What would I need to get into a CE guild? Opinions?

[spice spire]

Mogging your guildies is always free

[wanton mortar]

adds in rashan now count toward logs?

[spice spire]

Yes

[lapis saffron]

Cause that’s what you’ll be. No matter how much you gonna hide it. The lizard is still there. Inside of you

[spice spire]

Logs and ability to trial.
Usually those are the two

[spice spire]

I don’t want a lizard inside of me

Not into that

[west crown]

Well im top 100 so maybe

[spice spire]

It’s apping then

[cerulean walrus]

Oh now you don’t want a lizard inside you huh?

[nimble vector]

just apply to guilds that fit your raiding hours and have some semi competant heroic logs I guess, it's hard to say, you kind of just need someone to take a chance on you

[wild lantern]

🦎

[spice spire]

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah Jez

Show him

[spice spire]

Jez

What the fuck

[cerulean walrus]

I offered my lizard to Quake

[spice spire]

You’re on vacation

[cerulean walrus]

And he denied me

[sour oasis]

the ring will be out middle of december n,o ?

[wild lantern]

You pinged me in here earlier it’s your fault

[cerulean walrus]

Turned me away

[spice spire]

For legitimate reasons hello

[wild lantern]

And this isn’t a vacation, I’m miserable

So

[spice spire]

Why

[cerulean walrus]

Can you write a Wowhead article about this betrayal

[wild lantern]

[cerulean walrus]

Please Jez

[fading stump]

a wa for twisting knife?

[spice spire]

[spice spire]

Le has one and le and whispyr’s group both use

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[fading stump]

ty

[balmy condor]

🦎

[wild lantern]

Same shit every time, my psycho bitch sister in law. I’m likely going to be having a talk with James, I don’t know if I can do this again. Five years of all of my vacation time going to sitting in my father in law’s living room watching her berate him.

[balmy condor]

You show up in my good rogue discord and trauma dump?

[spice spire]

Fuck her

[balmy condor]

Who would do such a thing

[spice spire]

Literally

[wild lantern]

Quake pinged me

His fault

[balmy condor]

True

[spice spire]

For actual ATT question

Like

[balmy condor]

It actually all started when my dad…

[spice spire]

7 hours ago

????

[spice spire]

Oh no

[wild lantern]

Don’t finish this sentence brother

[spice spire]

If you do let me ping roujin first

[wild lantern]

But ye nap time ❤️ ping for more ATT and or psychological terror for quake, either or really

[spice spire]

I don’t ping for psych terror bud wdym

Only as it pertains

[wild lantern]

Every time you ping me is psych terror for you

[runic hinge]

He deserves it

[spice spire]

Dog?

[wild lantern]

[spice spire]

Why am I catching strays?

[sacred bloom]

Quick question when I’ve been watching shivz and he mentions to chain energy, so like what I’ve been doing is after I complete my rotation I usually wait to get to 185 energy then muratlate then envenom,

After this then when cooldowns are back I will blast is this correct?

I heard your meant to have atleast 180 energy before pressing death mark right?

This helps me not be completely drained and struggling to even cast

[runic hinge]

Death mark floods you with energy and the spec (in single target) is pretty just send

[coral ibex]

yea because you are just casting fewer things

how do you think you got to 185 energy

[stray adder]

I just lost crystal to a healer that needed it for offspec

kill me

[sacred bloom]

Okay so this is correct off me to you know not spam

Just hold off and chain 185 energy until cds are up

[coral ibex]

ive never heard of that

[sacred bloom]

So like when you have used all your rotation and your like idle

Waiting for cds to come back

[quasi ingot]

uh oh..im starting to see alot of the top end m+ players switch to subt

[sacred bloom]

If you just spam mutstliate and envenom eventually you would crash out and have no energy even with bleeds up

[runic hinge]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[arctic socket]

That is outdated

[runic hinge]

I know but

[coral ibex]

Pooling currently is basically dead, sim logic currently is "maintain envenom buff without wasting uptime"

from pins

[runic hinge]

They need to start somewhere

Oh okay. Check pins thanks

[cinder bone]

Just got back from being a week away at a wedding and this is a tough one

[runic hinge]

Rare cloak

[arctic socket]

During cds spam as much as you can outside of cds wait until the last second of envenom while maintaining uptime of bleeds

[cinder bone]

Yeah figured, especialyl since i'll never get the mythic version

[runic hinge]

Also I’m away at a wedding. Get to see my vault Sunday

[arctic socket]

@sacred bloom

[sacred bloom]

What do you mean last second of
Envenom? I thought it was just like a finisher ability?

[brave leaf]

ah stink. makes sense i was comparing it to diffuse magic but

[arctic socket]

The envenom buff

[sacred bloom]

Does envenom leave a dot?

Oh I see

How long is the buff?

[dusty matrix]

should i use 5 piece, if not which piece is the off piece?

[quasi ingot]

it leaves a dot...on you 🙂

[arctic socket]

Idk like 8-10 seconds

[sacred bloom]

Hahha oh okay and how long are you buffed for

Oh okay

[arctic socket]

You should have a weakaura tracking it

[sacred bloom]

To be honest I’m fine with packs, it’s just single target I always find myself with very low energy and out of teas

[coral ibex]

do what sims tell you, sim with top gear

[sacred bloom]

And then I’m sort of stuck and have to stop attacking for like 8 seconds to get energy back

[coral ibex]

i think its usually chest off-tier

bc the tier chest stats arent great

[sacred bloom]

Does anybody here review logs?

I timed a 12 COT today and would be good if anyone can see my rotation and let me what I’m doing wrong

I’d like to get to very high keys like 13-15s but I don’t think I’m there yet I’m struggling

[hallow patrol]

what's the strongest talents

[quasi ingot]

research thats the best talent

[sacred bloom]

Subterfuge look at shivz YouTube video

Or look up casual addict he uses subterfuge build too

[quasi ingot]

murlok.io

[stray adder]

Quake does but don't DM him @spice spire

[spice spire]

I’m so tired of key reviews

[sacred bloom]

I feel your pain I also don’t have skyardyn

[spice spire]

I have to actually be on the computer for them

[sacred bloom]

Hahaha I will pay

If you want

[stray adder]

ohhh shit

[subtle tundra]

start asking for vods

[limber lion]

I actually just flat out started to not do them after a while

[sacred bloom]

For a review

[spice spire]

No none of that

[keen spruce]

key review

[hollow warren]

Hey quick question do u really just use envenom for the buff outside of cds?

[sacred bloom]

I’ll send money irl

[subtle tundra]

with addon to see button presses

[sacred bloom]

For a good review

[wispy marsh]

How do people get so much caustic damage on H Blood? I feel like the adds just drop

[spice spire]

I don’t want money

[subtle tundra]

woah

[hollow warren]

cuz I feel like I spam it too much and energy drain myself

[sacred bloom]

I’ll suck it

[subtle tundra]

wait

[spice spire]

I’ll never take money

[subtle tundra]

im 3.2k

[stray adder]

send him steroids

[subtle tundra]

i can vod review

[keen spruce]

I don't need key review I know exactly what I'm constantly messing up

[sacred bloom]

I’ll suck it on god

[spice spire]

Varas

[stray adder]

aware

[spice spire]

All yours

[subtle tundra]

LOL

[spice spire]

HauG

HUH

[sacred bloom]

I’m 2.9K I just need to min max now I need a sweaty rouge to help me

[spice spire]

Brother I can just read graphs and tell you what you tucked up

That’s like 99% of what key isn’t tho

[drowsy hatch]

if you have enough energy you can keep slamming envenoms, but at minimum keep the buff up

[spice spire]

It’s the misplays

The deaths

The bs in between

[hollow warren]

I just feel like I get energy starved too much

[spice spire]

That’s @subtle tundra to a T

[drowsy hatch]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[sacred bloom]

Yes I get you but first I need to know if my rotation is where it needs to be

[subtle tundra]

so you wanna garrot 1 garrot 2

[spice spire]

Brother

Just post it

[sacred bloom]

Okay okay

[spice spire]

If I get to it I get to it

[subtle tundra]

i dont have it on fucking speed dial

[spice spire]

Key review is a big ordeal tho I shan’t lie

So if I don’t

I don’t

[sacred bloom]

Yea bro that’s why I said I’ll pay you hahaha

[spice spire]

Yeah and I don’t wanna be paid

I do this out of free time

[sacred bloom]

😂😂😂

[spice spire]

There are far more qualified and better people for it

[sacred bloom]

I mean fair enough

[spice spire]

I’m not worth the money

Can just tip on rotstion and shit

[feral mason]

pay me so i can eat this week the brutosaur drained me