assassination

[warm vortex]

But still sim

[crude sequoia]

636 crafted mh, 619 OH

[arctic socket]

Mythic track pants if turned into tier assuming you don’t have them could aim higher

Since you already have a 636 main hand

[warm vortex]

Yea

[crude sequoia]

you guys make some decent points

don't fuck the sim

[arctic socket]

Offhand wep really doesn’t matter at all

[warm vortex]

Unless it’s the biggest upgrade ofc

God I hope I get mythic grace

[verbal vessel]

i believe in you

[royal lantern]

[warm vortex]

Or mythic crit/mast ring
and not like
Ocarina, shoulders and wrists

[royal lantern]

@outer lotus vault blessing pls

[warm vortex]

Because that will not be an upgrade to anything

[royal lantern]

do your Magic old man

[blazing pumice]

i'm cursing your vault

bl

[verbal vessel]

wow

[blazing pumice]

jks you can't get bad items from vault because all stats are the same

[warm vortex]

I’m blessing your vault to offset the curse and return it to normal

[runic basin]

I just saw on a twitch that there seem to be issues with MA? When you exit stealth and go back into stealth, the buff doesn’t reset??

[warm vortex]

What if you get it in a slot where you have a mythic piece

[spice surge]

Correct

[warm vortex]

Tbh I have 3 shots at a good vault

So if one of my chars doesn’t get a good myth piece I’m salty

I have 4 mythic slots on rogue, so I am likely to get something at least passable

[languid cipher]

Is deathstalker still better than fatebound?

[warm vortex]

Yes

At least I would most likely assume so as I haven’t seen anyone running fate, and guide also doesn’t prio fate

[crude sequoia]

the sim has spoken

[warm vortex]

Stabber

Gratz on it btw

[crude sequoia]

ty ty

[warm vortex]

Has nice stats

[verbal vessel]

dont forget you can do some recraft shenanigans to save some crests if your current OH is hero track

[crude sequoia]

yeah i heard somet good things about it

[verbal vessel]

hero track/lower ilvl i mean

[knotty kindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1301035911206666250/image.png?ex=6723039d&is=6721b21d&hm=dbd1df8747c387417c4bbb2a9474614c5f5fbf0ccccadd231108cd259968265a&
what do we get boiz

[crude sequoia]

i have a 619 regicide yeah

[warm vortex]

Sim

I’d assume grace though

If you don’t already have it
But again, sim

[warm vortex]

Had some dude the other day try and argue it wasn’t a bug/exploit

Was p funny

Because it clearly is

[raw wyvern]

do we know if the bugs for assa has been sorted yet (since last reset) besides the lethality stuff? or are we still seeing Deathmark stuff disappearing etc.?

[crude sequoia]

how does this work

[warm vortex]

Idk but I think it’s like
If you redraft a 636 weapon into another 636 weapon the game will think you have had 2 636 weapons and make it so both slots have discounts to that level

I THINK
I don’t know but I remember someone saying smth like that

[crude sequoia]

oh

[warm vortex]

Don’t quote me, but that’s just what I remember
Could be wrong, but it was smth like that I believe

[crude sequoia]

does seem like its unintended yeah

[verbal vessel]

you recraft with a different missive and equip it in both slots, it treats it like 2 separate items for whatever reason

[austere ridge]

Yeah works for rings also, change embellishments and log out between crafts

[elfin bear]

Dead-Eye Spyglass vs Void Reaper for M+ ? (as passive trinket paried with Skardyn)?

[willow wren]

Why does the m+ build feel like you have zero energy in ST

[warm vortex]

Sim

[spice surge]

void reaper is a ST trinket

[warm vortex]

But yea I doubt anyone will get banned for it

Considering they can’t really track it

[spice surge]

So its unlikely to be good in aoe

[crude sequoia]

never know lol

[austere ridge]

Because you have 0 energy

[warm vortex]

Still I doubt it

Cause you can’t track someone doing that

[crisp walrus]

Because it doesnt 😛

[subtle tundra]

cause we dont play the energy talents

[willow wren]

😭

[subtle tundra]

cause the energy talents are bad in aoe

[warm vortex]

We don’t have energy we have rage

[willow wren]

we are the padder class...

[subtle tundra]

yep

[crisp walrus]

Have any of you ran sims comparing lethality + supercharge with sanguine blades to subterfuge + master assassin??

[willow wren]

[warm vortex]

I believe subs on top

[crisp walrus]

4 dungeon slice

[warm vortex]

From what people are saying

But idk after the balance

[crisp walrus]

I'm sending one rn

[subtle tundra]

probably can play more ST and lose aoe

[real pike]

hey guys I have a question, does the dragon in GB where you sneak around the corner have a bigger aggro range if you're stealthed than if you're not?

[subtle tundra]

and still do very fine on aoe

[subtle tundra]

it does

you dont want to be stealthed

[crisp walrus]

Holy

[real pike]

thank you!

[crisp walrus]

sub + master assassin sims +1.2% for me on dungeon slice o.0

[subtle tundra]

yes subterfuge good

[crisp walrus]

wth

[subtle tundra]

yes we knew

[crisp walrus]

yeah i just didnt lol

[warm vortex]

Leaving uni, gonna be home in like an hour 30 or so, hyped to check vault

[crisp walrus]

guess who just got the fucking RING

IN VAULT

BABY

[arctic granite]

Hey I got a question I got both Skardyn's grace and Treacherous transmitter on Hero track but idk which 1 to run can anyone help me with this?

[subtle tundra]

not me

sdfaoifjweoijnokcvnjoiesrhgkxcc,x

blizz lied to me

i cant believ

[warm vortex]

Not be either

[crisp walrus]

sim it

[warm vortex]

*me

[crisp walrus]

ive completed the trifecta

got wings insignia and ring now

[subtle tundra]

WELL IM SO HAPPY FOR YOU

MAYBE ILL GET A RARE ITEM TODAY

[crisp walrus]

GAME COMPLETED SEE YOU NEXT PATCH BYEEEE

[unkempt scaffold]

When should i Use Blind in M+?

[spice surge]

Assa has some of, if not the best, priority target damage in the entire game. Its definitely not a "pad" spec

[subtle tundra]

when you want to stop the mobs

[verbal vessel]

as pack control or for the DR if you're not running tricks

[crisp walrus]

For kicks, can also be used on big packs in general because of the DR it gives

[unkempt scaffold]

Ah thanks for th answers

[crisp walrus]

30% DR for 6 seconds after blind being broken, has saved alot of pulls for me on M+

[unkempt scaffold]

Insane ye

[warm vortex]

Apparently not good enough for some people who think tricks is better (????????????)

[crisp walrus]

hahahah what

[warm vortex]

Which the blind is like 100x better

[verbal vessel]

transmitter can be really awkward sometimes but might sim better. skardyn's doesn't have any downsides and lines up with dm every use. i think its still personal preference, but afaik most prefer skardyns

[crisp walrus]

theres no way anyone is running tricks in keys

[warm vortex]

Every day you have someone arguing about tricks being better

You would be surprised

[crisp walrus]

How are you pulling aggro as a sin rogue

Its happened to me like twice

[subtle tundra]

it happened to me from a naked kb in a 15

some tanks just make mistakes

[crisp walrus]

yes

[fallen arch]

I run tricks

[subtle tundra]

i dont run tricks and i wont

tanks need to l2p

[crisp walrus]

they have to really fuck up for me to pull aggro in my experience, even with full cds rolling on a mob

[fallen arch]

True

[crisp walrus]

but i only do 11s and 10s idk about 15s

[subtle tundra]

(i am tanks)(i tanked a 10 siege)(it was BAD)(i had a 590 ilvl healer)

[fallen arch]

Last week my shaman pulled aggro every other pull tho

He just overaggro’d supe hard during ascendance

[warm vortex]

Enhance?

[restive thistle]

Hello,

Is there a way to see if the Elusive blasphemite work? I don't see any change in movement speed

[fallen arch]

Ele

Ele was so busted last week

[crisp walrus]

If you really want to you can run tricks in m+ but its way worse and i dont see why u would

[warm vortex]

Fair you should run blind tho

[fallen arch]

I know, its to save myself from pug tanks

[crisp walrus]

its not like in dragonflight when prenerf kingsbane regularly pulled aggro with dm

idk what pug tanks ur getting

[subtle tundra]

theyll be getting Unlovedvaras prot paladin

oh la la

[crisp walrus]

i very rarely pull aggro, but when i do theres this cool evasion button i press that allows me to tank it for 10 seconds

[subtle tundra]

you get aggro with that guy

[azure owl]

Hey guys how do I find the talent sims in here?

[brittle lynx]

Do you guys usually switch to the highest HP target to cleave off of that or do you want to kill off low HP enemies for the "getting energy back based on time left on your poison/bleed talent" (that I obviously dont remember the name of)

[drowsy hatch]

Just chill on the big boy and spatter off

[brittle lynx]

Thanks

[drowsy hatch]

Youll get enough regen from the passive ruptures

[crisp walrus]

ok getting the queen ring from vault was fucking awesome but why does gemming and enchanting one ring cost 25k 😭

[spice spire]

For raid we kind of have the one build with a choice node.
For m+ we’re uh.
All over the place and have a lot of viable builds

[azure owl]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[drowsy hatch]

the problem with general sims for m+ builds right now is it varies on what you have

but they're all close

[azure owl]

Yeaaa the m+ is what makes me wonder right now ;p Getting into 14s gotta make some decisions xD

[spice spire]

Subt+ma+TTK has made a splash in the build department especially as things live longer

[nova aspen]

damn without a trace simming better than lethality now

does iron wire DR?

[royal lantern]

no

[drowsy hatch]

iron wire does not dr afaik

[spice surge]

Fwiw the difference isnt that big, its very unlikely what build you decide impacts if you time your key or not

[nova aspen]

like if i send out 2-3 silences during one pack

[spice surge]

The silence DRs

[nova aspen]

nice

ahh ok thats what it seemed like

my group loves me when i say "sending groots"

(garrotes)

we have groots into solar beam into groots

into blind

so gud

[stark scroll]

I only pull aggro from bear tanks

[drowsy hatch]

Yah I play with a prot pally

so silences all day

[azure owl]

Bone spikes feel like a nice comfortable thing to have but idk if its worth dropping sudden demise and one more point somewhere to get it. Opinions?

[stark scroll]

maybe first 2-3 seconds on a pack

Have to run tricks or I int

Think it may be 2 outliers but cant tell for certain as I havent played with guardians other than these two

so could be isolated

but regardless

[drowsy hatch]

Bears definitely have the worst time

[crisp walrus]

Might be nice if you're doing really high keys? In 14s the execute basically doesnt matter

[stark scroll]

TY for confirmation

[spice spire]

Monks would like a word

[drowsy hatch]

Well ok I can't talk about monk lol

since I havent seen one

ever

[stark scroll]

hahaha

[crisp walrus]

On the other hand sub gives you double the window to spread bleeds which is basically the point of bonespike but i havent pushed those levels and am just speculating

[stark scroll]

I see them que for tens sometime

[real granite]

playing monk is playing hardcore honor mode no hit

[drowsy hatch]

I heard DHs can have trouble

[spice spire]

Dhs are abysmal in the tanky department

[stark scroll]

I hear prot just farts and the entire dungeon aggros

[spice spire]

Monk is just the one tank I’ve never understood

[azure owl]

Yeaaa, so many options

[spice spire]

And if you don’t have a brm mainplaying

You’re gonna have a bad time

[drowsy hatch]

prot war and prot pal slap

no issues there

[crisp walrus]

If I were you I'd probably sim the difference in dps and if its small enough id just play whatever is most comfortable for you

[real granite]

did rogues complained about button bloat? well

do brms have a thing to say about that

[spice spire]

Yes they did

And brm also have and do

[azure owl]

Yea but dslice sims are so cooked

[junior yoke]

!up

[spice spire]

But brm has insane amount of buttons

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[drowsy hatch]

brm needs a patch like we just had

[real granite]

thats what i meant, brms after trees rework are insane

[spice spire]

Brm needs Jesus

[crisp walrus]

Yeah they are :/ very hard to know what is optimal

[spice spire]

They have like infinite utility though

[real granite]

they gave them half the ww skills plus the ones they already had

[drowsy hatch]

dslice is cooked as hell

but its the best weve got

[spice spire]

Running different sims helps.
If you want aoe, run 10 bosses for x time.
If you wanna know boss dps, run a singular.
Ofc. These are just models to compare builds and gear

They’re not there to show “target” dps for keys

But just as a comparison

Dslice is just the great middle ground for people who don’t need to bother

But like there is nuance in figuring it out

[crisp walrus]

Yeah I dont bother that much

[spice spire]

Same

I’m running 10-11s

[desert vault]

I guess I should have been looking into sub/MA builds, like +150k for me, little less when I go back for iron wire though but still pretty nice

[spice spire]

I could run ST (hyperbolic) with spatter to clear

[crisp walrus]

Even 10 bosses for x minutes runs into issues like, is there a prio target? did the tank pull all the mobs at the same time or did he pull 3-3-4 and now you are fucked trying to spread bleeds? etc

[spice spire]

Yeah

[raw zephyr]

does the DR effect apply to mobs that are immune to the blind itself? sounds too good (rog trying desperately to survive a 3rd corrupt on GB 😅 )

[spice spire]

It’s a whole bit

But like I said, it’s just models to compare gear and builds

Not to see what dps should be

[crisp walrus]

Same. Especially if youre mostly pugging 10-11s like i currently am, im pretty certain the way your pug tank pulls matters 10x more than any possible talent build

[fresh kelp]

i think without a trace is pretty good in gb for extra mob control and safety against the corruptors

[verbal vessel]

no but sometimes yes, idk. sometimes i'll see the debuff on mobs that are immune to the blind if they're the main target, other times i won't

[real granite]

i've read some people complaining about other people running patcherk multitarget sims like its a bad thing to do

[crisp walrus]

sometimes they know what i want and make life super easy for me, and i do 1.6-1.7m overall, or he just chainpulls the entire dungeon not letting me restealth, in which case i can be as low as like 1.25m

[azure owl]

Yea you might be right, I'll just run a sim in a few different scenarios and go with the best option overall

[desert vault]

Are there any of the sub/MA builds on wowhead for m+? I was looking and didn't see anything

[spice spire]

It is for different reasons

[crisp walrus]

obviously there are alot of other parameters but the way pulls are done is huge for sin

[spice spire]

When the purpose is just “how much aoe do I do”

It’s not a good reason to sim

If the purpose is “what build does my best aoe”

It’s a bit better

[real granite]

than dslice?

[spice spire]

Not having a concrete answer is painful when someone asks what the best build is

[deft wagon]

Guys is crystal of anub better than sacbrood? Top rogues uses crystal but guides say sac

[spice spire]

For aoe on x tsrgets and aoe only on z targets yes

[real granite]

i've always simmed 5t 10t st and dslice, and compared

[spice spire]

A combination is always best to paint a picture

[spice spire]

For keys or raid?

[verbal vessel]

for what content

[deft wagon]

Sorry for keys

[spice spire]

People seem to be stanning crystal

I’m only going to give the answer that those who have it say “yeah it’s real good”

[deft wagon]

Crystal just sims worse for me, at same ilvl as sac so i dont get it

But i cant stop being a sheep and just following top players

xd

[spice spire]

[drowsy hatch]

realistically either work fine

[spice spire]

Don’t do the sheep thing

Test it

See which one you see more noticeable diff in

[crisp walrus]

Differences seem very small in my sims

[spice spire]

And then become the herder of the sheep

[drowsy hatch]

generally its skardyns then like 4 options

[spice spire]

I’m not crystal hunting so sac is fine for me

[deft wagon]

Yeah i have skardyns and sac, just got anub trinket

[desert vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[crisp walrus]

currently running void reapers + transmitter, sacbrood and crystal all sim within .1% of eachother

[summer viper]

im driving nuts, is this trinket dropping in delves?

[crisp walrus]

Keep in mind this is for m+

[crisp walrus]

yes

[spice spire]

Yes

[summer viper]

i dont fucking get it since ever

[sick mortar]

anyone has a good recommendation for a good plater profile that only tracks the mandatory debuffs?

[drowsy hatch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[sick mortar]

thanks!

[glad tusk]

Hey guys. Very new rogue player here. I'm running deathstalker AoE talents for mythic plus, and im just reading up on it everywhere. There is 1 thing i cant find and thats a good ST opener ( on boss fights in dungeons ). Anyone has a good ivdeo or guide for this? I know its all about keeping the poisons up, but i cant find a good opener anywhere, and dont understand the class enough to figure it out myself xD

[spice spire]

I’m a Cev plater simp fwiw

[pure moth]

Yes I've got many. Dunno why it sims better then everything except skatdyns lol

[deft wagon]

ambush garrote rupture brrrrrrrrr

[drowsy hatch]

The regular ST opener and the M+ build opener is essentially the same, just with -1 shiv

[brave comet]

why is the sacbrood simming lower for me than either of these trinkets

[subtle tundra]

cause its worse

[drowsy hatch]

because those trinkets are gud

[subtle tundra]

wooooooooooahhhhhhhhhhj

[spice spire]

It’s real good

It just stops at 626

So it loses some value overall

[drowsy hatch]

knife is by far the best if you have all hero

[brave comet]

is there something better?

[drowsy hatch]

skardyns really

[glad tusk]

do we use Crimson tempest on single target bosses?

[spice spire]

Skardyns and myth trinkets

[crisp walrus]

Ambush > garrote > rupture > mutilate > envenom (if at 5+CP) > deathmark rotation

Wowhead has the exact opener with all the different stuff

[spice spire]

If you have momentum of despair rolling and are talented into it

[drowsy hatch]

You can if you specifically have momentum of despair up, but it's not really worth it

[spice spire]

It’s very minimal

[spice surge]

Not after the tier buffs

[spice spire]

[glad tusk]

im specced into Momentum of despair ye

[spice spire]

Poison dam up

Makes sense

Ignore

[glad tusk]

so this is a valid opener / rotation ig

[spice spire]

Seli did a good job

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah that's fine. Just don't do the first shiv, save it for the end of KB

[glad tusk]

alright, dope!

[crisp walrus]

Did they fix the bug with marks not being consumed when you have darkest night up?

[glad tusk]

do we spec into Blindside in the deathstalker AoE talent? the online builds do not show it, but ambush is in the rotation so idk

[drowsy hatch]

No

Ambush is automatic in stealth

So that's why it's there

[dull pulsar]

hi, anubikaaj or spyglass for M+ ?

[spice surge]

No

[crisp walrus]

Aight

[supple frost]

The opener is easy. It’s afterwards, longer the fight the lower my damage.

[glad tusk]

ye, been trying on a dummy and it drops hard indeed

[crisp walrus]

thats just the way it is

[drowsy hatch]

I mean thats most classes in the game

[crisp walrus]

^

[drowsy hatch]

Post burst window your dps goes down

[glad tusk]

sorry for all the questions, but i got 1 more xD when ST on a bosses, when i have 6 CP, do i press envenom or another mutilate to get max CP?

[drowsy hatch]

slam envenom at 5+ if you dont have darkest night up

[crisp walrus]

Do you have the capstone talent that reapplies deathstalkers mark?

[supple frost]

But other classes plateau at a certain spot. I seem to keep dropping

[glad tusk]

so if darkest night up i get to max CP

if not i cast from 5

[drowsy hatch]

yep.

[glad tusk]

idk what this is sorry

[drowsy hatch]

That's darkest night

[glad tusk]

ahhh ye okay, fair

so darkest night WA is probably gonna be quite nice

[spice spire]

Love DN

[supple frost]

Darkest night and clear the witness

[drowsy hatch]

darkest night is very important

[crisp walrus]

Sin is one of the specs that have the most of their ST damage bundled up with their CDs, with some of the worst outside-of-cooldown damage of all specs

So its normal

[subtle tundra]

false

[crisp walrus]

Really? you think so?

[subtle tundra]

outside of cd is pretty high with DS

[pure moth]

i know the agility is always good but you would think the stat loss on the second part wouldnt make it better

[crisp walrus]

Still not as high as most other specs though

Atleast not in my experience raiding this patch

[spice spire]

As long as it doesn’t proc during CDs

[glad tusk]

whats the clear the witness WA for

[spice spire]

Thing is giga

[glad tusk]

whenever i get it i press fan of knives?

[crisp walrus]

I could very will be wrong though

[subtle tundra]

our ST burst is not that high inraid

[spice spire]

Ye

[pure moth]

i suppose

[crisp walrus]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[supple frost]

Ye after consuming darkest night you get clear the witness and fan

[crisp walrus]

Then I am wrong and stuck in the dragonflight mindset

[indigo ginkgo]

what happen ? my sims went from Deathstalker in front of Fatebound for like 5k to 14k Fatebound in front Deathstalker !
Wtf happen ?

[subtle tundra]

nothing

[drowsy hatch]

seems like a pretty minor shift that can happen with secondary stats changing

[glad tusk]

aight fair, thanks for answering everything guys! time to practice now 😄

[indigo ginkgo]

didnt change gear

[valid slate]

Is there a sim review channel on this disc ?

[subtle tundra]

sim review?

[drowsy hatch]

Then maybe it cut out flensing knives

[slim pebble]

When do you guys blow second set of cooldowns on heroic Ansurek

[subtle tundra]

wasnt in the sim

[slim pebble]

It didn’t feel like there were any spots that were worth so I held it and only got two used and I know that ain’t right

[indigo ginkgo]

ohh!!

[noble light]

Hello, need a second/third opinion on my vault: I'm a rather casual player so this is my first myth piece: I can decide between Mythic Spyglass (currently equipped is Hero Skardyn and Hero Sacbrood/Crystal) or Mythic shoulders (currently equipped heroic). What would you pick?

[hidden torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[delicate trench]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[nova aspen]

if u will never raid mythic, and ur not familiar with simming, i would probably take shoulder imo

shoulder will never be replaced, the spyglass could

this is my logic

[verbal vessel]

second dm when it came up and 3rd in p3

[valid slate]

I meant logs

[slim pebble]

So even if the mob didn’t live the whole time you just sent it

[astral cypress]

hoi folks! I spoke to someone yesterday claiming doing chainpulls in m+ is only a -2% dmg loss for rogues overall in m+ is this true? cuz this way vanish is the only way to apply our hero talent on targets and to have aoe silence and dmg reduce correct?

[fallen arch]

It is

[drowsy hatch]

It's slightly better to restealth now but it is ture

true

[verbal vessel]

second came up before queen phased so all 3 were on her

[fallen arch]

Damage wise it’s fine to chainpull

[nova aspen]

depends on ur definition of chainpulling

[oak tangle]

you get hero talent back when mobs die

[drowsy hatch]

You should be able to shift the mark around with darkest night though

[fallen arch]

But the silence and dr is nice

[royal lantern]

yes its true

chainpulls are good

[fallen arch]

I hate chainpulls

But I cant blame tanks

[royal lantern]

your problem then

[fallen arch]

And it depends on the kind of chainpullung

Pulling 2 10% into a new pack is just annoying

[undone pollen]

It’s not about the dps loss it’s about the cc loss. Chain pulls are not always good and not always bad but they can be both

[fallen arch]

Yes

[oak tangle]

you got 2 other guys in your squad doing theoretically as much damage as you total, waiting for your 5% buff aint worth not doing their 200%

[fallen arch]

Usually u have this weird spot where u can finish off the last pack and restealth when the tank already ran into the next pack too

[undone pollen]

If the tanks want to lose a pretty good damage reduction and caster silence that’s gonna reflect when some squishy class dies.

[wary herald]

-2% is a copium number

[oak tangle]

i mean vanish does exist as needed

dont need to be hurrrduurr i press vanish in dps cd

[wary herald]

U have vanish for every pull

[undone pollen]

And I said chain pulling can be good and bad. So yea.

[wary herald]

If u think 2% is all u lose

[delicate trench]

!wa

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[spice spire]

2% across the entire dungeon.
The solution is to have to spread bleeds manually. Sucks but is what it is there 600 ways around losing stealth between pulls

[oak tangle]

don't conflate what impacts your enjoyment for something that is detrimental to the key though

[undone pollen]

Not having silence and dmg reduction is detrimental to a key. Dying as a result of that is detrimental to the key.

[oak tangle]

sure, but dont act like you can never restealth, or that you dont have a pocket vanish for when needed

[spice spire]

You can just like

Not run ahead

That’s completely an option if something is about to die

[oak tangle]

you also have a significantly stronger DR in blind and blackjack

[spice spire]

Literally hang back as they start pulling

You get to restealth, and ur laughing

[oak tangle]

or play nelf

restealth inside the pack

[spice spire]

Miss me w that

[oak tangle]

i mean that's tripple silence

if we're caring about the silence and dr XD

[marble hemlock]

Meow

[wary herald]

It is a larger number tho.

[oak tangle]

2% for you, not for the team though

[normal mist]

I can't stop but laugh at your profile picture

[oak tangle]

how much damage would a pally lose waiting for your restealth

[dapper valley]

is sub good now?

[normal mist]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

Yes

[marble hemlock]

I can't stop and laugh at people who know what something isn't, while not being able to say what it is. If it's not 2%, what is it?

[idle gazelle]

you are all arguing about nonsense, because you haven't even defined pull sizes, health% of the chain etc

😛

[dapper valley]

insane!

[drowsy hatch]

I mean people have talked about restealths for months

[idle gazelle]

numbers of chains throughout the instance etc

[normal mist]

Wait is this a tea talk or a restealth talk?

[oak tangle]

doesn't really matter about defining that, your individual damage gain from restealth is literally not worth the time taken out of other's dps

[undone pollen]

No one is arguing really it’s a conversation. It’s not a victim mentality

[fallen arch]

Restealth

[wary herald]

I mean if u say 2%, and u go and do a dungeon with stealth only every 2 mins see how ur dps is

[drowsy hatch]

We're in restealth land rn. Sad the ! is gone

[fallen arch]

Grab the popcorn @normal mist

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-por-que-no-gif-23322568

[marble hemlock]

Stop caring about restealths regardless of what it is, you'll be happier in the long run and time more keys.

[normal mist]

Ahahah

[subtle tundra]

we complain about teas here?

hi

[gusty mirage]

New tea is fucking garbage

[marble hemlock]

You summoned varas

[normal mist]

Not if it is black tea

[gusty mirage]

CACA

[marble hemlock]

My mentioning tea

[dapper valley]

is stealth bug fixed yet?

[fallen arch]

Bring back exsang

[gusty mirage]

which stealth bug

[fallen arch]

Which of the 1000

[gusty mirage]

Lmao

[subtle tundra]

tea change bad, revert

ty for listening

[dapper valley]

bring bak dust!

[marble hemlock]

L2p bozo

[keen rover]

Do yall run sanguine blades in keys?

[fallen arch]

What dust

Vanish dust?

[normal mist]

Nah I rather go look at my full T2 set and be happy

[fallen arch]

I remember

[fallen arch]

Same brother

[gusty mirage]

How does one learn to play about tea automatically activating?

[dapper valley]

better yet just bring bak preparation as a whole

[raw wyvern]

speaking of bugs, are we still having fun with Deathmark disappearing still? 👀

[marble hemlock]

Don't drop energy below 30 bozo

[gusty mirage]

Instructions unclear

[subtle tundra]

thats just how the cookie crumbles....

[marble hemlock]

[normal mist]

There's an easier way to play tea...
Remove it from the bars, macro it to shiv

[gusty mirage]

Makes sense now, ty for the clarification

[subtle tundra]

macro my ass

[marble hemlock]

You're welcome

[gusty mirage]

Maybe I will

[marble hemlock]

Can't

[normal mist]

When

And where

[verbal vessel]

to what

[marble hemlock]

Macros have size limit

[subtle tundra]

🙄

rn

[fresh kelp]

how do i keep my energy from dropping below 30 while yelling at my tank to stop chainpulling as i spam mutilates on a 40% hp mob though

[raw wyvern]

[verbal vessel]

lmao

[subtle tundra]

yea i got a fat ass

ty

[gusty mirage]

Wtf you’re toxic

[dapper valley]

in pve u dont care about pooling energy

[marble hemlock]

gbvvhfffffffffffff5trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtrtt

[gusty mirage]

Hi nova

[subtle tundra]

good nova

[marble hemlock]

well

[fallen arch]

Is that ur talent layout?

[marble hemlock]

i just got up from bed but apparently

[normal mist]

Nova said hi

[marble hemlock]

nova responded for me

[gusty mirage]

[marble hemlock]

you saying you dont appreciate varas massive badonkahonk?

[gusty mirage]

By the looks of it, everyone here does

@subtle tundra confirm?

[spice spire]

In details or logs? Details only labels uptime. Logs shows up and downtime

[subtle tundra]

everyone and anyone can have a look and appreciate greatness

[spice spire]

Look at logs next time

[drowsy hatch]

more like varass

[gusty mirage]

GOT EM

[fallen arch]

Fatass

[drowsy hatch]

(in a good way)

[spice spire]

Don’t bully my goat

[drowsy hatch]

(im sure you have a great butt)

[spice spire]

I love him

[marble hemlock]

you have a goat?

[gusty mirage]

Don’t kink shame him

[wary herald]

I mean u can go try, go stealth every vanish only to see the % loss

[marble hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-typing-kitten-typing-typing-gif-9421482755570860732

[subtle tundra]

when i say i am an assassination main, i mean ass main

[fallen arch]

Yes

[wary herald]

Im gonna have a wild guess its more than the 2%

[fallen arch]

Maybe it’s 2.2

[drowsy hatch]

that is indeed a wild gues

[fallen arch]

Move on

[drowsy hatch]

given you havent done any work to figure that out

while people who have reached that number

[gusty mirage]

Remember when ele sham got nerfed like 10%+ and is still oppressively better than everyone else?

[wary herald]

[spice spire]

Real

[marble hemlock]

no

[gusty mirage]

[fallen arch]

Is it ye?

[royal lantern]

you have some of the actual TC people tell you that its ~2%

[marble hemlock]

but im old, i have bad memory

[royal lantern]

and your conclusion is "they are wrongx

[fallen arch]

My shaman friend was on a bit of a rollercoaster ride this week

[gusty mirage]

Haven’t played with one yet, but it’s probably still disgustingly good

[raw wyvern]

is it really 2% tho pulls up ChatGPT

[fallen arch]

They just broke that class didnt they

Nerf by 10%, still busted

[royal lantern]

nah they hotfixed changed the hotfix change

no joke

[gusty mirage]

Enhance is still stupid strong too

[royal lantern]

[gusty mirage]

And frost dk

[drowsy hatch]

if people just parked on enh theyd be fine

[subtle tundra]

and ass

[fallen arch]

Meanwhile resto druid got buffed into heaven, still dogshit

[drowsy hatch]

ele is all over the place the last week lol

[gusty mirage]

Poor rdruid

[marble hemlock]

i like how half the pulls on silken

[raw wyvern]

you gotta love that they hotfix a hotfix

[gusty mirage]

Actually doo doo caca

[marble hemlock]

the enhance that doesnt get PI tops the meter

cuz of how dumb that spec is

[gusty mirage]

Enhance is just fucking silly tbh

[fiery onyx]

Will my allready applied Garrote benefit from Deathmark, or do i have to Deathmark, and then reapply?

[marble hemlock]

highest melee ability on the damage distribution is 4% of thier damage

rest is lightning bolt, tempest etc

[gusty mirage]

It’ll dupe already applied bleeds

[royal lantern]

the thing i hate about frost DK is not even the dmg

its how stupid immortal they are

like, if you skill elusivness and use feint, you have the same deffensive power of a DK that does absolutely nothing at all

wtf is that shit

[fallen arch]

All bleeds will be benefited

[gusty mirage]

It just checks for the bleeds and dupes em nothing special needed

[raw wyvern]

imagine the shaman community if they hard cap ele and enhance like they did with outlaw

[marble hemlock]

i bought 10 kinder bueno this morning. will they all be eaten by the end of the day?

[fallen arch]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

By the end of the hour*

[royal lantern]

yes

and you will feel bad

[subtle tundra]

wdym "like they did outlaw", outlaw has always been like that

[gusty mirage]

Kinder bueno is muy bien

[raw wyvern]

just for reference

[gusty mirage]

Good candy

[subtle tundra]

stay capped losers

[gusty mirage]

My old sub sound

[royal lantern]

i dont think Outlaw players realise how many nerfs outlaw would probs need if they uncap blade flury tbh

[pseudo cosmos]

sim time

[gusty mirage]

Sheeeesh

[hardy crypt]

do we have the no sudden demise/twist the knife build somewhere?

for m+

its not on wowhead

[drowsy hatch]

build logic is in pins

[marble hemlock]

mine

[spice spire]

Never took you as a bottom

[royal lantern]

yeha cus there are like 30different builds that all do roughly the same and you cant put them all on wowhead

pins give the information there

[wooden perch]

got myth track sacbrood in vault but it sims bad??

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tDXQ415mHsm5VM6rAwh9vV

[subtle tundra]

i just checked bfa, it was uncapped 50%
nerfed into 45%
nerfed into 30%

lol

[marble hemlock]

ye

capping skills was the problem

thats why hunter and monk were the best aoe classes, both 5t capped

[stray adder]

ST sims with m+ talents?

[wooden perch]

ye thats for m+ bosses

[royal lantern]

i love that part everytime the ussual "outlaw bad cus target cap" comes up

[wooden perch]

but in dslice

[stray adder]

kk

[wooden perch]

its all lower

[marble hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/qeliameow-cat-paw-cats-paw-dance-gif-3807241812430059413

[wooden perch]

all sims

how

[royal lantern]

SL s1 where the best classes had a 5target hardcap

[real granite]

aoe shlands rework is bullshit imo, it brought so many problems, and looks like they did it just for mdi

[wooden perch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/42kyDXeoV8TWjccJfJeYq7

[marble hemlock]

target capping was a good thing, they just executed/designed fights badly for it

and people are dumb

[royal lantern]

^

[hardy crypt]

but we drop scent and sudden demise for master assasin, twist the knife and dashing scoundrel in that build?

[coral ibex]

no

[hardy crypt]

idk if im blind but i dont see what exactly to change

[coral ibex]

never drop scent in m+

that is so cooked

[real granite]

ah yes, lets introduce 3 different variables into every aoe skill, instead of making every aoe mechanich linear

[hardy crypt]

ok

[hardy crypt]

so just sudden demise for twist the knife?

[drowsy hatch]

Right there

[coral ibex]

-sb -sd +ma +ttk

[subtle tundra]

ehhhhhhhhh you can play -sob in some variation build

[hardy crypt]

sb?

[coral ibex]

i dont want to know

[coral ibex]

sanguine blades

[runic hinge]

You’re right. Lower blade flurry to 5 targets

[subtle tundra]

? its just another build

[hardy crypt]

ah alright

[quasi stump]

Hi sin rogues

How are we doing today

[drowsy hatch]

fuck it blade flurry should be 2 targets

you only have 2 blades

[coral ibex]

locked a fatty 33 log on rash so im doing great

[marble hemlock]

brb gonna spend 7 hours figuring out the m+ build that gives me 0.7% more dps then fail the key cause i missed a kick.

[ornate raptor]

😂😂😂

[subtle tundra]

i dont miss kicks

[ornate raptor]

Legend

[subtle tundra]

kicks miss me

[marsh falcon]

!wa

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[raw wyvern]

but muh deeepeeeeessss

[quasi stump]

lemme see what my parses are on the raid so far

[marble hemlock]

you aint missing the kick of energy you get when you auto-proc tea either.

[gusty mirage]

Yeah cause you’re used to me bottoming out in your dad. Stay woke step son

[coral ibex]

talking about mythic, heroic logs are a lot chiller

[quasi stump]

holy moly a mythic raider

Mythic scares me tbh

[agile wedge]

team another loganalysis: can sb tell me why his envs do so much more dmg? he has a little more uptime on the buff though

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/LRbTwQamYcWt2Gn4/self#fight=11,11&source=17,16&type=damage-done

[coral ibex]

easier than savage so far

[quasi stump]

I mean I think thats because they tend to really turn up the difficulty in the latter half

[coral ibex]

scales up obv but 4/8M is easier than week 1 savage for sure

agree

[quasi stump]

Which I think is fine? But like… jesus christ mythic court looks miserable

[marble hemlock]

log laggy as fuck but just from the onset, one of the rogues has 3k more agi than the other

[coral ibex]

ovinax should be like 100-150 pulls which is how long my week 1 m4s prog took

[quasi stump]

Oh damn ur a week one guy??

[coral ibex]

sunday week 1, so barely

but yea

[quasi stump]

[marble hemlock]

weirdly enough, the one wiht less agi has higher envenoms

[quasi stump]

Still counts

Im not built for like.. week 1 full clears

My brain turns to mush after 3-4 hours of prog

[spice spire]

You sass me again and I’m going to Kiss you in the damn lips

[coral ibex]

thats basically what we did, 3-4 hours each day

[gusty mirage]

Sorry I’m taken BUD

[coral ibex]

our vibes were immaculate tho so we got a big buff from that lol

[stray adder]

he has more crit than you

[spice spire]

Spero it’s me again

[marble hemlock]

idk why that log is so damn slow

[drowsy hatch]

yeah this is the laggiest log

I have ever seen

[marble hemlock]

they have 35.1 and 35.2% crit on envenom respectively

[spice spire]

Didn’t say which lips

[gusty mirage]

[quasi stump]

Theres several depending on the sex

[subtle tundra]

yes thats why thats what most guild raid in a day

[marble hemlock]

the one with higher envenom has more PB procs

https://i.imgur.com/JEqz0rX.jpeg

[quasi stump]

My ff group is pretty casual so I think I cleared on week 8? Then again we would have cleared much sooner but we kept losing people

I think we cycled through like… 6 people

Most of them healers

[coral ibex]

yea thats tough

[normal mist]

Fucking healers

Can't they just press 1 1 1 1

[coral ibex]

yes

[normal mist]

(I can only heal casually as a sage)

((and I love it))

[quasi stump]

Healing in FF is a lot more chill than WoW but its more boring. Honestly they should prune healing buttons and give healers tank rotations

[drowsy hatch]

Glare rotation is too hard

[quasi stump]

I love mistweaving in wow but fuck me its stressful

It works out a part of my brain I dont use a lot

[stray adder]

maybe it's a trinket diff? one has sacbrood and one has crystal

[coral ibex]

i will never heal in ff for that reason

[normal mist]

Blood for the blood lilies

[coral ibex]

ill literally just fall asleep

[marble hemlock]

probably a bunch of different stuff

[subtle tundra]

if current ovinax takes your guild 100-150 pulls, idk if current*queen is killable

queen will get nerfed

[coral ibex]

ok? we havent pulled the boss at all

[marble hemlock]

it could straightup be down to how many CP were used on envenom each time

[coral ibex]

so idk how long it will take us

[marble hemlock]

i dont wanna prog ansurek after court

[coral ibex]

just going off what ive seen

[marble hemlock]

i just wanna be done with the tier

[quasi stump]

Didnt they drop a new set of nerfs for queen recently?

[coral ibex]

heroic

[subtle tundra]

hc

[quasi stump]

Ohh

Ok

[subtle tundra]

queen is exponentially harder than ovinax

[agile wedge]

but only some littl gear diff (and he has worse gear) makes that diff?

[quasi stump]

Can I say amth

Its so annoying

How theres a boss called princess

[subtle tundra]

quite fun fight, cause i only progged kyvexa

[quasi stump]

And one called queen

Its confusing

[marble hemlock]

ye that will do it

we suck monkeyballs on court so

i just wanna be done

ovinax and kyveza were dogshit fights to prog on

cause you kept wiping to the same mistake 100 times

just deeper into the fight

[quasi stump]

I will say

Heroic court?

Prob my favorite fight ive done in this game

[subtle tundra]

i missed an egg on my first time mythic ovinax...

[late surge]

noob varas!

[subtle tundra]

2 mechanic fight

[marble hemlock]

at the start you wipe to people dying to debuffs and daggers 30seconds in, right before the kill you still wipe to people dying to daggers and debuffs, just later into the fight

[frank axle]

!wa

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[quasi stump]

More fun than Heroic Nymue which was my previous fav

[marble hemlock]

and ovinax is the same shit

[coral ibex]

they should have kept it 2 webs to stop anub

[drowsy hatch]

hc court is such a meme

[coral ibex]

on heroic

[quasi stump]

THE WEAVE CANNOT CHANGE

[coral ibex]

its so easy with 1

[quasi stump]

Yeha agreed

[marble hemlock]

you either die to interrupts, missed eggs or missed CCs. for 10 minutes straight. cool shit

[subtle tundra]

i wouldnt know!

[drowsy hatch]

missing eggs on ovi is insanely mind numbing

[subtle tundra]

tonight is reclear and i wont miss egg

[marble hemlock]

idk why ovi needed to be 10 minutes

instead of like

6

[late surge]

I believe in you varas

[subtle tundra]

well i missed egg cause i didnt know there was a 2nd egg, it was in the boss hitbox

[stray adder]

my favorite fight ever was mythic sennarth

[quasi stump]

LMAO ur pfp

[marble hemlock]

banned

[stray adder]

just press shadowstep

[marble hemlock]

some opinions shouldnt exist

even if the fight was free as rogue

it was still dogshit

[stray adder]

Im canadian, we love ice skating

[marble hemlock]

forced loss of control in any fight is just a dogwater mechanic

[arctic socket]

@subtle tundra how many pull did it take your guild to clear brood?

[late surge]

I LOVE SLIDING

WEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[coral ibex]

i need to experience more mythic fights overall to have opinions on good vs bad

[marble hemlock]

the only 2 things that are worse, are lack of visibility, or line of sight mechanics

[subtle tundra]

108

[late surge]

ovinax swirlies 8)

[quasi stump]

I did the first two DF raids when they were awakened on heroic

Since I joined in S3 DF

Echo of neltharion is really fun

[drowsy hatch]

mythic kiljaeden 😍

[quasi stump]

Same with scalecommander sark

[arctic socket]

We start prog on it tonight, any tips 😂

[late surge]

do big dam

[subtle tundra]

i didnt prog it

cant help

[late surge]

what u need to know homie

I hated ovinax

[quasi stump]

I will say smth that I hate, hellfire assault

[late surge]

then we gt to kyveza

[subtle tundra]

seems like very straight forward

[quasi stump]

Ive been doing mythic hellfire every week for the mog

[real granite]

kil jaeden...

[late surge]

snooze fight

[quasi stump]

Boring ass fight

[arctic socket]

Nah any little rogue tips? Like any way to pad damage or cheese a mechanic

[subtle tundra]

well if you 5 heal it, its pretty boring

[drowsy hatch]

u know whats up

[late surge]

play CT

[subtle tundra]

4 heal before nerfs... you were playing with fire

[late surge]

delay second dm a bit

atleast I did

[dapper cradle]

CT pad

[late surge]

so I could pad more on adds

[quasi stump]

Mythic guldan where you have to make an incredibly complicated shape with a weak aura to solve it

[real granite]

KJ is probably my fav encounter ever, but that loss of vision mechanich and looking at the minimap to move...

[late surge]

I was top boss dam by miles anyways

so we good

[quasi stump]

Or mythic naga bitch where the first phase is just an add fight LOL

I forget her name

Azshara?

[crisp walrus]

on last weeks affix u can crimson tempest the orbs

[soft shale]

wally got knife again wally missed mask oh we all die

[fallen arch]

Azshara

[crisp walrus]

big dam

[quasi stump]

Yea thats her name

[soft shale]

repeat 100 times

[quasi stump]

Me in england

[crisp walrus]

does very little in terms of actual ddamage but it makes details look cool

[arctic socket]

I’m referring to mythic brood tips

[crisp walrus]

oh

hahahha

[late surge]

u can vanish if u ever get rooted(unless playing MA ofc)

[subtle tundra]

first end boss i progged!

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/53h4oem.jpeg

i dont even remember what i said

that warrants that

[late surge]

u can cloak the egg absorb thing

[drowsy hatch]

just reminiscing

[soft shale]

big ky veza ptsd

[subtle tundra]

wasnt gonna kill it, joined my current guild and got the kill in the last possible week!

[quasi stump]

Azshara was after Uu’nat right

[soft shale]

yes

[arctic socket]

Would long cloak be useful on that boss to soak some circles?

Or is that a meme

[quasi stump]

Cause it was uldir then dazar then crucible then that

[marble hemlock]

uunat top3 fights in wow history

dont @ me

[late surge]

seems meme

[soft shale]

i liked uu nat a lot

even if were too bad for it

[late surge]

u dont need long cloak

[quasi stump]

God why the fuck did they remove tier sets in BFA

The uldir sets look so ass…

[late surge]

plate set

all of them

look like plate

[quasi stump]

LIKE

Imagine how FUCKING COOL nyalotha tier sets would look

[late surge]

evasion magic dr is kinda helpful during the vial slurping from ovinax

[arctic socket]

Uldir set as a whole was kinda bad, but you could make some sick mogs with a few pieces

[quasi stump]

Also can I say

Its criminal that my favorite warlock set is locked behind LFR hellfire

[arctic socket]

Feint spamming fight

[quasi stump]

Felfume Raiments look so good

[late surge]

nah

dont

no need if ur 5 healing with the gear u got now

[quasi stump]

https://www.wowhead.com/item-set=1260/felfume-raiment

[late surge]

feint if u get egg debuff

[quasi stump]

LOOK AT IT

Its so fucking cool

[arctic socket]

I won’t lie from doing so much m+ I’m just like smashing my feint bind

[late surge]

and if u wanna be helping ur healer during the slurping

[arctic socket]

Had to make a macro so I didn’t double use it

[crisp walrus]

feint off dr is soo huge

[arctic socket]

[soft shale]

we 3 healed ovi nax quite well

[crisp walrus]

i'd take it over no snd any day its insane

[quasi stump]

Remember when feint was the basis of the trickster tree

LMAO

[late surge]

wtf

3 heal

hachadino

gimme ur healers

[arctic socket]

Our guilds average ilvl is 630

Sorry

[late surge]

then no need to feint

[arctic socket]

629

[late surge]

during slurp

imo

[soft shale]

i mean you 3 healed and 2 tanked it until they nerfed the hp

otherwise you didnt have dps

LUL

[late surge]

yeah

[dapper cradle]

How hard are first 4 bosses

[soft shale]

quite easy

[dapper cradle]

On m

[late surge]

bro I struggle to live with 5 healers

[coral ibex]

not very

[late surge]

tbf 2 of them did 0 log

[soft shale]

well it is what it is sometimes

[late surge]

so

[soft shale]

yea

[arctic socket]

The only boss sorta difficult was rash

But once you got the patterns down it was easy

[quasi stump]

I do wonder what the next raid tier is gonna be

[marsh falcon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[crisp compass]

I am fotming into a assassination rogue. LETS GO

[quasi stump]

fotm players

[stray adder]

good luck plz read pins

[arctic socket]

Watch whispyrs 3 hour long yap videos

Will learn a lot

[fallen arch]

I would fotm enhance I think

[arctic socket]

And will answer everything

[marsh falcon]

has the colours changed in whispyrs plater?

[dapper cradle]

Anyone have a link to Whispyr’s LiveJasmine?

[arctic socket]

Enhance is broken man… it’s like impossible to compete with their ST

[fallen arch]

We are doing aight too

[late surge]

bro how am I supposed to ever log on rashanan now

we place adds too far from boss

😦

[fallen arch]

Rip

[stray adder]

yell at your RL

[late surge]

KEKW

[quasi stump]

How does rashanan go from the worst boss on dawnbreaker to a really fun fight in raid

[arctic socket]

Every rash pull I have done I have always got targeted by the first set of webs

During cds

[fallen arch]

Or kick the rl and replace him

[arctic socket]

And why aren’t you dropping adds in the middle kinda like a square?

[spice surge]

Strat issue

Just drop it to the side

[strange python]

What’s the fastest way to get valor stones 🥹

[arctic socket]

If I drop it to the side, my rl will scream at me

[arctic socket]

Full clear lfr normal / heroic

[stray adder]

30 grim batol in a week gets you a lot of valorstones

[strange python]

I’d rather not play than do that 😩

[quasi stump]

Id rather put my nuts to a rock polishing machine than do grim batol that much

[late surge]

bro just loot the trinket

[vast loom]

do the world soul thingy from delves

[late surge]

smh

[royal lantern]

funny enough, it apperantly isnt really

[quasi stump]

Do codex of chromie for 5 hours

[quasi stump]

[royal lantern]

cus the biggest part of that is the heal absorb, and not the dmg

[stray adder]

[royal lantern]

and your dr cant reduce heal absorbs

[late surge]

yeah but reduced dam taken is still better than not reducing dam taken

[vast loom]

i was never that scared on ovinax it felt like everytime there was a scary overlap i could just cloak

[royal lantern]

ye sure

[wispy epoch]

Dumb question

Is Atrophic poison technically our raid buff?

[royal lantern]

like, you use it, no reason not to use it

[stray adder]

plz end my life

[royal lantern]

not just technically

[late surge]

and I dont think long cloak gives u any valuie

[royal lantern]

it IS our raidbuff

[late surge]

I got it traded on my third run

just get good

[gusty mirage]

My god

[late surge]

or get other ppl to loot good ig

KEKW

[stray adder]

my villain arc just started because of you

[late surge]

I still havent looted it myself

[wispy epoch]

If you have two rogues, is mind numbing poison on boss also worth?

[late surge]

so thank fuck someone traded it

[gusty mirage]

There isn’t any amount of dps worth running that shit dungeon 30 times in 1 week

[late surge]

lul

[gusty mirage]

Yes

[royal lantern]

somewhat, but mindnumbing is not really a "raidbuff"

[gusty mirage]

Tf you mean somewhat

[royal lantern]

VAULT TIME GUYS

[cursive smelt]

hi is it possible to use only a nerubian enchant in addition to the embelish proc gem?

[gusty mirage]

What else are they going to use lmao

[stray adder]

listen bro, it's an Obsessive–compulsive disorder

[late surge]

dw

[cursive smelt]

my vault is ring last boss )

[fresh kelp]

doesn't atrophic still stack or was that fixed

[late surge]

I remember farming plaguefall 42 times

@stray adder

I know the struggle

[gusty mirage]

I am concerned for your mental health

[royal lantern]

hmmmm

[stray adder]

bro at least GB isnt as shit as PF

[wispy epoch]

Hmm

[late surge]

had a dh friend doing cos 112 times in 2 weeks for whetstone

KEKW

[gusty mirage]

I used to run outlaw loot spec and hand out poxstorms. Took me 55 to get my phial

[cursive smelt]

hi is it possible to use only a nerubian enchant in addition to the embelish proc gem?

[late surge]

yeah fuck the phial man