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[static glacier]

number is just very very slightly lower

[spice spire]

we just do slightly less damooj

ye

nothing changed

no damage change

no hoes

no vault yet

[slim pebble]

Damn, my guild hasn’t seen one poison ring yet

[spice spire]

buddy I'm tryna see ur poison ring ya feel

[slim pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/i-feel-the-same-way-scott-forrester-fbi-international-i-have-the-same-feeling-i-feel-that-too-gif-25960278

[static glacier]

I got mine from the 4 myth dungeons weekly chest

[slim pebble]

I got wrists

From that

[spice spire]

I got a hero chest 🙂

my 584 rat bear got the ring though 🙂

[crimson vector]

is this the new talent build ppl are cookin

[static glacier]

NO

[coral ibex]

certainly not for m+

without ironwire

unless you have a very specific use case

[wary musk]

Tbf not every dungeon needs iron wire. Boralus has next to none kicks really, but NW on the other hand it's a must have

[coral ibex]

mobs that dont cast can still be silenced and therefore get DR'd

which is still good

silence immune mobs dont apply but those arent as common as just non-casters

[wary musk]

Yeah I agree, but it really depends on the group imo. In pugs iron wire is goated, but in a coordinated group you can get away without using it in some dungeons

[spice spire]

boralus is a pretty good dungeon imo, mainly before second boss - hitting the casters at the beginning is nice

the one I say I probably wouldn't run it on seriously is mists

like past the first few packs

it's just dr value only

no silence value

[iron valve]

I assume the elusive metagem move speed stacks with other bonuses, right? I remember speed bonuses sometimes being weird

[spice surge]

But its also incredibly helpful to pull the casts onto the big smashy dudes before first boss so

[spice surge]

Yes it does

[wary musk]

Yeah the DR is great, but if the tank and healer are comfortable with the damage taken you can spec out of it in some keys

[static glacier]

not every dungeon needs more dps. we have really high damage as players this season, challenge for timers is survival

[slate crown]

!wa

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[wary musk]

But if things die faster they don't get the chance to cast and kill anyone

Best defense is offense

[static glacier]

you know what helps more than having 1-2% extra dps on 1 out of 3 dps

having dr / silence on every pack from iron wire

in this case best defence is actually defence. Tanks are generally most vulnerable at the start of a pull

being able to let your group chill with aoe stops on pull and not dr the mobs early helps too

[dense cloud]

everyone jumped like 10 points because the new timer increase. pog

[wary musk]

Yeah, you're right. I love Iron wire. I was just being silly for fun. NW double vanish + Iron wire on the 2nd boss is so freaking good

[minor dagger]

!wa

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[static glacier]

I wish iron wire didn't have to be a choice and was baked in, but it is what it is

[spice surge]

"Ye dude you absolutely need elusiveness for those unavoidable throw flesh crafts"
"Nah we dont care about the DR from iron wire"

[red wolf]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice surge]

Not sure what the meme is here, it is undeniably good on this boss

Obviously the boss is completely playable without it

But not having the mobs cast for 5 seconds is good

[wary musk]

Yeah ik it's good. I was being serious xd I was only trolling about dropping iron wire for more damage. I'm aware it's probably one of, if not the, strongest talent in our tree

[unreal parcel]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

name misleading not an ape irl

[wanton pine]

Anyone know if luxthos weak aura isn’t showing supercharger after shiv or just a shiv bug

Wouldn’t be suprised if it’s the latter with the rogue bugs of late

[severe sparrow]

i think it just says that you do/dont have it up

[wanton tangle]

any tips on energy management when fighting bosses? im starved half way through the fight? do i just chill and pool more energy?

[severe sparrow]

my first cp is blue sometimes randomly and i think that's what it is but im mid raid

and dont have time to investigate

[wanton pine]

Yeah because before it would show blue as the supercharger

But after this reset doesn’t show

[prisma sundial]

i dont think it shows because its not important to keep track of

its just +2 combo points

but yeah on the blizzard combo point tracker its your first blue combo point

[wanton pine]

Interesting, yeah was just weirded out not seeing the blue combo point tracker anymore on my weak aura after this reset

[prisma sundial]

yeah its weird you just have to forget about reprimand

[severe sparrow]

i honestly didnt even notice it was gone

im way too tired to be playing atm

[spice spire]

Ur so real

[prisma sundial]

for ovinax do we not put rupture on adds for energy?

[balmy condor]

no

[little tulip]

are these numbers rookie

feels like

[drifting cloud]

the wcl parses for m+ arent for dmg

[severe sparrow]

points

[drifting cloud]

its a combo of timer and key lvl

[little tulip]

yeah i have no idea what i'm looking at

[limber coral]

Are there ways too better ST damage in M+, cause like it feels like I absolutely do nothing on Bosses an run out of energy pretty often.

[winged sun]

Crit haste+leech dont mind if i do

[little tulip]

oh okay i see, it's showing runs where other ppl logged keys that i happened to be in under damage

[static glacier]

having cds for bosses helps a lot, other than that make sure you're crystal clear on clean st gameplay. we're more energy starved in m+ build than raid st so proper pooling can be a small gain too

you can consistently do around 1m st dps on a boss if not more around high 620s

[spice spire]

Crit mast avoidance dagger today.
Twin?

[static glacier]

if the boss has significant downtime / you dont have cds 900k can happen too

[limber coral]

on ST I am around 750-830. never done 1m on ST just yet.

[static glacier]

ilvl?

[limber coral]

624 ilvl

[static glacier]

is that including bosses you send lust on?

[limber coral]

still fixing my secondary stats and gaining mastery

[winged sun]

Wtf u got crit mast dag?

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[limber coral]

no lust

[static glacier]

it's on the lower end, idk what your gear looks like but I suspect there's some small misplays

[serene solar]

I laughed so hard during this pull. We are progging so the boss aint dying rn anwyays and it was just hilarious to me

[limber coral]

are there ways I can get this deleved into more?

[echo cargo]

69 😂

[static glacier]

post a log, we can look at how you played a bsos and go from there

[slim pebble]

Silly question, I know I trust robot

Does it take into account natty cooldown for queens mandate on sims

or if we snipe a few

[balmy condor]

only natty

[spice spire]

Classic parry

[slim pebble]

hero Queens Mandate lost by like 45k in a dungeon slice sim to Hero sac brood

[hollow mantle]

how does the Culminating Blasphemite actually works? i need to have different gems?

[limber coral]

sadly the only logs I got are old, I normally do log keys but imma see what I can find

[balmy condor]

aoe sim and a single target trinket is losing to passive stat trinket?

that sounds very reasonable

[limber coral]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/V1x74k8pQLBntRwM#fight=3&type=damage-done

heres one from a few days ago

[slim pebble]

Yeah im an idiot and was big braining it

[slim pebble]

This is why you make the big bucks

[knotty kindle]

what do I get man fuck

[wary musk]

Skardyn 100000%

[wet dagger]

Skardyns no brainer

[weary spear]

skard

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s def skardyns

Very rare sucks to pass

But that can drop in raid whenever

[drifting cloud]

(will never go to a rogue)

[wet dagger]

Neck still had a chance to drop, that trinket is vault only haha

[wary musk]

Not if you run it 37 times in a row like me 😄

[dawn heath]

crazy

[static glacier]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/V1x74k8pQLBntRwM#fight=3&type=damage-done&phase=1&source=988&start=9070005&end=9224691 you did 950k without lust here at 619, well done

[wary musk]

( I never wanna go back to GB ever again)

[dawn heath]

how does this sim higher on dslice?

[wet dagger]

I did 49 before I saw it haha

[dawn heath]

than my crit mastery neck

[past bobcat]

uhh we blasting?

[wispy marsh]

On mythic track vault only

[limber coral]

It seems like the longer the fight goes on the less I do cause I was just in a 12 and couldnt reach that

[spice spire]

That’s a burst class

[static glacier]

so looking at a boss with potential optimisations your opener on general umbriss is good, a trick for umbriss is that vanish removes the circle you have to drop entirely, so you can stay in range of the boss and dps . a small mistake us using tea outside of kingsbane at 5:52, avoid this if possible (it's small but these things add up)

you're generally fine though, just get used to sending cds on cd

[balmy condor]

🙀

[static glacier]

too many people hold cds on bosses

[limber coral]

My issue is holdin CD on packs lol it feels weird to me

[balmy condor]

don't hold

[static glacier]

^

[drifting anchor]

on ovinax are we saving cooldowns for when eggs break?

[static glacier]

better to send everything nonstop then learn where you'd need to hold

[balmy condor]

should line up very naturally

[static glacier]

than holding too much

[balmy condor]

every deathmark lines up with an egg break

[limber coral]

I try not too but often I just misjudge a packs lifespan an dont get the full benefit from CD so I just dont send but then I misjudge it an lose out anyway

[drifting anchor]

yeha for the most par they are...a couple seconds off

[static glacier]

all DMs line up, some kbs are slightly late

[limber coral]

true

[grim vigil]

do we get a spark this week?

[balmy condor]

honestly no clue

isn't this like spark 6?

or 5?

[static glacier]

only other thing is your trirnkets, you have 2x passive

[spice spire]

Spark 69 maybe

[static glacier]

or had

[dawn heath]

thinking about taking this

[balmy condor]

how many sparks we need

[dawn heath]

its either this or socket

[limber coral]

I have skardyns and crystal now

[balmy condor]

gz

[static glacier]

and use full consumables

[balmy condor]

huge neck

[spice spire]

Best neck or a socket tough choice

[dawn heath]

is it a good neck for m+ tho?

[balmy condor]

probably not

[dawn heath]

its a raid neck

[balmy condor]

unless you're like giga haste starved

[limber coral]

full consumables?

[dawn heath]

i have 1k hastgeg

haste

[balmy condor]

then it's probably reasonable lmao

[dawn heath]

st sim

[balmy condor]

idk sim it

[dawn heath]

(m+ build)

[balmy condor]

yeah

[dawn heath]

lets see aoe

[balmy condor]

that reeks of no haste

[lone yarrow]

finaly ❤️ wwwwaaiiiit it's my alt 2 ....

[steep gust]

hello - im progging mythic brood and was hoping someone could do a quick look at my logs to see why my caustic spatter dmg is low? Its me comparing myself to other sin rogues who have killed it. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BG2jp73nDtrqadAZ#type=damage-done&fight=51&source=131

please and thanks

[dawn heath]

this doesnt make any sense

[balmy condor]

why not

[dawn heath]

how is it simming higher in dslice

[balmy condor]

cause.... its good?

[dawn heath]

haste is like 0.5 value of mastery

in aoe sims

[balmy condor]

I mean they are

dslice has a boss

[limber coral]

wait isnt the neck from mist BiS or no?

[dawn heath]

tbh i've been feel bad about my st

i think ill take the neck

its been a issue

(in keys)

[static glacier]

my hunters vault is insane wtf

[balmy condor]

okay well just on the first egg break alone, this is the first time you pressed envenome

[rotund oak]

huuuuge

[balmy condor]

you can't be pressing your first envenom at 20%

[steep gust]

im sorry 20% what?

[balmy condor]

20% health

[steep gust]

oh

[balmy condor]

you like

aren't hitting adds

idk

second add break it's the same thing, adds spawn and you're garroting and rupturing the boss, throw out a CT

and then doing nothing

everything's dead fam

they're all gone

[static glacier]

you're in aoe but you are too concerned with applying bleeds

[dawn heath]

my stats are lookinmg abit rough now ngl

[static glacier]

you need to get ct up then start pumping envs into ct

[balmy condor]

yeah

[dawn heath]

so little crit and mastery now

[steep gust]

i see

yeah i guess i am trying to get my bleeds out

[balmy condor]

also this can never be the move

[dawn heath]

gotta get rid of this shit

[static glacier]

while adds are up you env the boss, save rupturing high hp worms for after smallies are dead

[steep gust]

at least thats usually what im thinking

[balmy condor]

there is no situation where you would ever do this

why are we spamming CT

[dawn heath]

is this something that has any uptime at all? or is this considered just a non thing?

[balmy condor]

get your CT

then spam envenoms

that's your aoe

fuck the ruptures on the adds

just spam env

[static glacier]

might be first socket of the expac on rogue, if it's not mastery ring instead of haste mast ring from 2nd boss

[rotund oak]

chill with the getting ridding though

[steep gust]

well i dont recall myself applying ruptures directly to adds - i may rupture the worm im kicking

[dawn heath]

🤔

[steep gust]

CT spamming question - i guess im doing it when the tank is gathing adds

[balmy condor]

41% off the first enhance log I've seen

[dawn heath]

thats not too bad

[hollow elk]

for me its like 50% uptime the neck

[static glacier]

if this is on brood just wait til the tanks grip to ct

[balmy condor]

yeh looks like 4 procs per minute

[rotund oak]

its a myth track ring,the man has to sim for that ring,its not like he has to dump it

[dawn heath]

yeah i know

[balmy condor]

so 40-50% seems reasonable for 4ppm

[dawn heath]

i'm just down bad in crit mastery now like real bad

thinking of crafting a ring

[hollow elk]

whats ur stats

[dawn heath]

im never getting that queen ring

[short galleon]

guys give me some advice on this vault pls

[balmy condor]

didn't you just say you had 1k haste

where are your stats

[dawn heath]

yes

these are my stats now

i swapped to the neck

[balmy condor]

you can't have 1k haste and also be down bad at everything else

[dawn heath]

i took the neck

[balmy condor]

whatever sims highest

[hollow elk]

how is that down bad

[balmy condor]

that looks fine

[wispy marsh]

Haste is for lames

[hollow elk]

imo ur vers is too high

[dawn heath]

my crit mastery used to be way higher

ye its cause of the ring

myth track ring

with vers

[rotund oak]

[hollow elk]

if the vers ring is gone

[rotund oak]

1% vers bruh

[steep gust]

Thanks

[hollow elk]

ur gucci then

[dawn heath]

yeh

but if i raft a ring

[wispy marsh]

Why shoulders be doing this to me

[steep gust]

@balmy condor thanks for the look and advice

[dawn heath]

do i really replace the myth track one of the 619 ring?

[balmy condor]

np gl

[rotund oak]

we found the culprit! 😂

[hollow elk]

well u get free upgrade to 626 no if its hero track

[dawn heath]

ye thats true

good point

but i was thinking of ring exploiting

this week

that would put the other ring at 636

(crest exploiting)

[hollow elk]

whats that

how are you exploiting xd

[dawn heath]

u craft then recraft

use in both slots

upgrade for free

[rotund oak]

u recraft requip and dont need the crests to upgrade

yupyup

[dawn heath]

the queen ring would be so perfect for me rn

wish i had it

[rotund oak]

its the bis

[slim pebble]

My guild hasn’t seen one drop

[rotund oak]

everyone would love it

[dawn heath]

it dropped last week

i tried to buy it

but nope

[rotund oak]

[dawn heath]

ofcourse the resto shaman needs t have it for +7s keys

that he is playing

doesnt mythic raid either

im sure he needs it

[wispy marsh]

I'm sure the 5/8M warlock feels the same with the Spymasters I got last week

[rotund oak]

its been a wild chat when i got mandate on my mage as well

[stray adder]

I told my therapist about Grim Batol

[rich elbow]

Does this work for daggers?

[wispy marsh]

I started xpac late, and honestly, I've been pretty lucky so far with vaults and stuff, last 3 weeks I've gotten myth vaults and we've had Trailspinner, NW crit/mast weapon, and Dawn Crystal trinket. Daddy bliz is being kind and I appreciate it by spreading love and positivity in the World of Warcraft

[faint vessel]

did for me

[dawn heath]

ye

[wispy marsh]

Wish I'd known about this earlier, could have recrafted my bracers to 636 last week

[spice spire]

What new meds you taking king

[cinder geode]

which dungeons do you guys run elusiveness on versus cheat death ?

[stray adder]

Heroin

[spice spire]

Oh

[stray adder]

it's a prescription

[static glacier]

was about to say I hope it's not fent

[stray adder]

nah that's light

[little tulip]

hand and foot disease

[obtuse ruin]

All

[little tulip]

[cinder geode]

you run elusiveness on every dungeon ?

[stray adder]

it's just me or does the T2 belt does not fit at all

looks odd

[rich elbow]

So you just, get your crafted ring/dagger, equip into both slots. then recraft it with diff stats and equip into both slots and then the game should let you upgrade those slots for no crests?
Sorry, only been playing this xpac for 2 weeks. this crafting system is hella confusing to me.

[regal cape]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[dawn heath]

they need to have different id's so u either need to have like different stats via missive on one of them or a different embelishment, if u are crafting an item from the scratch purposefully craft it with the wrong stats first then adjust the stats and equip in both slots

[obtuse ruin]

Yep….once you know what each dungeon does elusiveness is really good

[drifting anchor]

why do we want haste on our crafted items?

[cinder geode]

makes sense, now that its off gcd im liking elusiveness a lot more

[haughty flame]

Morning all, im really torn what to take from the GVhttps://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gNQhaRbpeuddAv3bmt97Rr

[cinder geode]

plus with deathstalker evasion becomes one of the best defensive of any class

[prisma sundial]

i just noticed that, its like the red wasnt recolored like the rest of the armor

[floral fractal]

anyone feel like their damaged has randomly tanked today? or energy regen is super sluggish?

[raw lodge]

https://i.imgur.com/jZmHzcS.jpeg
need some help deciding on vault pick. sims say ascendancy trinket is the best pick for me. but if i get the legs, i can no doubt get my 4 set via the catalyst. idk how to sim for that possibility. should i still take trinket?

[tight cave]

I felt like that too, figured it was lag..area52 sucks on patch day

[tight cave]

more likely i was just sucking lol

[floral fractal]

ok im glad im not alone, but i did have a long day and maybe im just suckin too

[floral fractal]

id say shadow trink, that cloak is bis but pretty low. sim it

[neon thunder]

!guides

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[raw lodge]

i simmed all the items. it said ascendancy trinket gives the most dps. but legs would get my the 4 set from 0.

[waxen oyster]

knife is the best item there

[raw lodge]

okay

i will take it

[waxen oyster]

the only better trinkets are myth track proc trinkets

from m+

[raw lodge]

thanks

[waxen oyster]

serum is likely only simming better because you have no on use trinket

[raw lodge]

yeah my other trinket is void reaper contract

[floral fractal]

i have void reaper and ovi egg, serum is trash imo cause of the cast time on use

[waxen oyster]

serum is strong

its just not as good as transmitter or skardyn

[dawn heath]

wtf

owning?

pve hero

[sudden trench]

!wa

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[wispy marsh]

Lemme see the top dmg though 😉

Why shaman so cracked😭

[dawn heath]

enhance

bro

i usually blue

log

how did i pump so ahrd

must be my new haste neck

surely

[wispy marsh]

I was fixing to ask Gotta be the neck

[smoky drum]

Having problems regenerating energy in keys pure ST, any advice?

[drifting cloud]

get used to it

[floral fractal]

i was having issues tonight with that as well, was running a mythic spec tho

[gray raven]

does meld allow you to apply mark?

[ionic fox]

is ovinax egg just simbait or what

[dawn heath]

in m+ on trash yes

otherwise no

u can restleaht with it

(most of the time)

rashanan such a assa fight

[prisma sundial]

what would be the best way to sim for ovinax style of fight in raidbot? (I want to compare forced induction and double lethality)

[half tartan]

can anyone show their liquid reminders screenshot for kyveza?

moreso for densives*

[balmy condor]

There is no good way, but you can do a 1 target patchwerk, 1 target hectic add cleave, 1 target cleave add, and then use a bit of brain to compare for yourself

[prisma sundial]

ok sounds good

[crisp stream]

is it better to sim dslice without any buff?

or add food and stuff

[subtle cipher]

Sims default

[devout schooner]

Is the very rare neck from the raid any good for assa? Or is a normal crit/mastery neck better?

[vagrant brook]

there is a warning when you sim dslice with all the buffs, since it's not realistic

[crisp stream]

ye

[regal linden]

seems pretty good?

[subtle cipher]

Binding hard carrying

[worthy surge]

Hello all would the subterfuge build be better this week for tyranical or stick with hybrid ?

[remote vector]

Is it just me or does blizzy keep fucking us up?

[supple ether]

can someone help me out with this vault pick https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8y87mgyuuFWecGKmXtHDVB

its either spyglass 639 or ansurek hc ring but my trinkets are shit and assa rogues barely use boralus trinket

[dawn heath]

i forgot to take caustic on brood

i'm deadge

[subtle cipher]

Easier to get a better trinket or other spy than the ring imo

[faint path]

Guys ovinax or queen trinket? When I sim queen trinket 20k single upgrade but ovi at the same time 20k dungeon slice upgrade

[fallen arch]

Keep both

[faint path]

Cant because gonna pick from vault

[fallen arch]

oh

[gray raven]

oh i see - so meld - restealth - ambush

[dawn heath]

damn

do i want to play this over skardyns

🤔

lol

[slate crown]

Jump 3 times

[gray raven]

does not work on a dummy, but perhaps i am the dummy!

[faint path]

Does ovinax sim bait?

[dawn heath]

u need to

walk away

from the mobs

cant stand point blank

also make a macro for it

[ionic fox]

I feel like ovi trinket is just bad lul

[wispy epoch]

100% ovinax

[dawn heath]

why are some people using transmitter over skardyns?

[wispy epoch]

There’s no single target fights except Silkran

[dawn heath]

i see speed doing it

[faint path]

High ilvl maybe?

[wispy epoch]

Bc it’s better if you can line it up

[ionic fox]

kiled myth ovi and did pulls with 639 egg trinket was hovering around 2.5m. swapped to 626 shard ended at 2.9m

[dawn heath]

some guy wants to buy it for 300k

idk if i sell it

[wispy epoch]

Oh sell it

100%

[dawn heath]

it even has avoidance

[wispy epoch]

Hmmm

Think it’ll drop for you again?

Ask for 500k

He’s lowballing you

[dawn heath]

ye

i think so too

[wispy epoch]

That trinket is not replaceable

Till mythic

[dawn heath]

but i mostly play m+

and these are bis for m+

[wispy epoch]

I’d sell them honestly

But try to see if you can get 500

[slate crown]

If you play sub too it’s quite good

If you don’t then msg

Meh

[tacit nest]

Is crystal noticeable better than sac in m+?

[bleak sun]

Ehhhh 3 neck choice this week

[jolly heath]

Knife 619 from delve sim better than sac or crystal 626 for me

[kindred imp]

Voidreapers contract (Class C in guide) seems to slap based on sims. Even over Queens which is marked as class S in guide. Similar number dif in ST.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/588kdX5HLvPSN1edLuxg4P

Is it really that good? :?

[dawn heath]

hmmm

[dawn heath]

transmitter is better than skardyns for raid right

[faint path]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qQdkfLAfQYHkcTLkG7Ktsv helpp

[daring glen]

Any idea what envenom uptime should be on m+ bosses without twist the knife

[wispy epoch]

Yes

[daring glen]

I try to keep it close to 100% but im running out of energy even when waiting last second

[remote vector]

Is it even worth playing Assa right now? Feel like it was already meh in Raids, but now with the nerfs :/

[wispy epoch]

It’s still near top and brings a 3.4 dmg mitigation for the raid

[daring glen]

Its s tier in raids and m+

[urban tiger]

Bait used to be believable

[coral ibex]

nah assa fuckin stinks you should reroll to enhance

[steel ridge]

Enhance new fotm

go

[wispy epoch]

This guy just killed bloodbound horror

[daring glen]

Enhance nerfed today

And it was the best spec in the game but assa was still good

[dawn heath]

assa is rly strong

[wispy epoch]

I’m just sad that I can’t iron wire and silence everything for like 12 seconds at start of every pull

Now I gotta kick shit like everyone else

[slow tulip]

ye, with those 0.6% nerfs should be a hard sell to play it :/

[dawn heath]

we're done

its joever

[regal cape]

Finished

[tawdry flare]

Gutted

[slow tulip]

saw musclebrah FOTM rerolling to encha

yesterday

so its basically over for assa

[wise river]

I feel hard to maintain ds on court fight😔

[echo cargo]

it's always over

[drowsy hatch]

I feel hard sometimes too

Oh youre talking about wow

[wise river]

Unless i save the vanish just incase

[slow tulip]

ye, i was in the same boat so i made e WA telling me when you switch the mark between bosses, otherwise i used to lose it or have it on the wrong boss

[slow tulip]

omg SAME

[cerulean nest]

whats a good uptime for the crystal trinket?

[slow tulip]

[drowsy hatch]

[wise river]

Op let me try it tonight

[faint path]

Guys hows queen trinket for 10+ keys

With skardyn

[wispy epoch]

Bad

Need a spyglass

[dawn heath]

bruh

lost ring but won this other trinket

[wispy epoch]

See if he’ll trade the ring for it

[dawn heath]

i tried

600k

• trinket

idnt wanan trade

[faint path]

Not worth it

[remote vector]

Maybe I'm just trash :X

[wispy epoch]

Only fight I’d realistically use Queen mandate on is Silkran and uhhh

[remote vector]

How do you guys play around the talent change to Thistle Tea?

[drowsy hatch]

Some people just macro to shiv

But it's just inconsequential

[crystal helm]

I guess taking transmitter for m+ and keep using skardyn for raids? Really unsure here

[drowsy hatch]

Perfect tea vs auto tea is a .18% dps diffy

We're so energy flooded outside of M+ ST

[remote vector]

It happens quite a lot that i drop under 30% energy and consume a charge too early

[sonic prawn]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5aE9QsKKtbrNhmt8tdvp4P I thought weapons were important af, idk seems like i'm gonna pick the helmet

[drowsy hatch]

It's 30 energy, not 30%, and it just isn't a big deal dps wise

[drowsy hatch]

Mainhand is important, Offhand is stinky

[sonic prawn]

Mmmmh ! I see, thanks buddy

[subtle tundra]

i didnt get the fuckming ri ng

i got the wrong queef item

fuck

.!.

👎

[knotty canopy]

Ma still the Play in m+ after nerfs?

[fast mural]

Any tips with the Vault?

[subtle tundra]

egg

[echo cargo]

sacbrood 1000%

[fast mural]

I have Spyglass 639 and Batol 639

[subtle tundra]

ok

i also have batol 639

no need to brag

[cobalt sphinx]

6 refulgent crystals

nice 👍

[fast mural]

No i mean is it worth to pick egg with spyglass 639 and Grace 639 ?

[cobalt sphinx]

you should try to farm up a gear-a-rang launcher

[echo cargo]

did someone say gear-a-rang launcher?

[dawn heath]

this warrior stole my ring 🙂

how are u this bad?

5 kills

best parse is gray

100k

has he ever lived the boss

what a rat

"i dont care for gold"

[faint path]

Dude egg that good?

[subtle tundra]

i fucking love eggs

[stray adder]

shaming other people is not it bro

[wispy epoch]

He needs it more

[wispy epoch]

Neutral good poster

[subtle tundra]

you are not entitled to loot

[dawn heath]

surely the queen ring will make him survive

[wispy epoch]

This is a safe place for rogues

[subtle tundra]

eggggggg

[wispy epoch]

To vent

[sweet sinew]

sim can't handle the crit gem? top gear sim is telling me to gem only one type

[dawn heath]

i cannot stand when people who dont play the game are so commited to keeping the loot for what?

[drowsy hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/egg-iasip-always-sunny-philadelphia-gif-11094806

[dawn heath]

he doesnt raid mythic or doesnt do any keys over 10

why does he need this item so badly

[karmic crystal]

he pays his sub and wants his cool character

just like you

[stray adder]

it sucks but it is what it is dawg

[dawn heath]

an absolute bot

[echo cargo]

the egg 🥚 is very good

[karmic crystal]

he's a human being

[subtle tundra]

idk

[steady glen]

Hey I’m using 639 bis trinks what should I take from my 623 vault /s

[karmic crystal]

it's a video game, relax

[subtle tundra]

youre pugging

[stray adder]

the trick is to not form an emotional bond with loot

[drowsy hatch]

I personally send all my gold to casual

Since he deserves it more than me

[subtle tundra]

go play with guild if thats your issue

[dawn heath]

i need the ring for my key pushing

[subtle tundra]

no you dont

[dawn heath]

its a 15k dps gain

on signle target

[karmic crystal]

that ring wont change the keys you time

[subtle tundra]

ok????//

i should throw a tantrum in my mythic raid too cause i push and dont get loot

nvm i do

[dawn heath]

i mean its unlikely but if it comes down to less than 3-5 seconds then it would

[karmic crystal]

be real dude

[subtle tundra]

yea buddy youre not entitled to any loot

regardless of the content you do

[dawn heath]

no ofcourse not but i am offering big gold to buy it

[subtle tundra]

"big gold"

[dawn heath]

i am not saying that he should give it to me

i am paying over 1mil

for the ring

[karmic crystal]

and he doesn't care, so you call him a bot

[wispy epoch]

15k single target, and it falls off aoe bc it doesn’t spread to anything but your main target.

[dawn heath]

ye

[drowsy hatch]

if gold was useful that would be nice

[wispy epoch]

It’ll drop again

[dawn heath]

[subtle tundra]

just get it from mythic, or?

if dps is so important

to you

[karmic crystal]

true

[dawn heath]

tbh he is a bot from the logs he has

[karmic crystal]

mythic one will time you keys 10s faster

[dawn heath]

hes killed the boss 5 times and died every time

[subtle tundra]

ok and?

he keeps getting invited

[wispy marsh]

It's coming in the vault brothers, it's coming for all us #staystrong

[stray adder]

ngl I'm getting more and more happy that the warrior got the ring

humble yourself bro

[subtle tundra]

youre not the main character

[karmic crystal]

he's a human being pugging casually in a video game he enjoys and pays for

you're in the same raid as him

[steady totem]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

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[karmic crystal]

thats what you have earned yourself as a sentient human

[royal lantern]

it can

its just that the "bonus effect" is so forgetable small that going the same secondary is sometimes not worth it

[wispy marsh]

Based, I always remind people about this when they go off in my raids, lol

[fast mural]

@subtle tundra You would pick egg?

[subtle tundra]

ive tried to pug hc ansurek but the ring is not worth the shitty experience

[karmic crystal]

my vault freed me this week

thankfully

[wispy marsh]

Drooling a little at your trinkets

[subtle tundra]

it gave me the wrong quuef item....

i got 632 chest

.!.

[stray adder]

yeah a 639 skardyn

is no joke

[wispy marsh]

Pray for us brother, for good rings are acomin

[chilly mist]

im convinced it doesnt exist

[karmic crystal]

good rings for everyone who is nice to the people they pug with

[stray adder]

wanna talk about it

[wispy epoch]

I’m the main character of my raid

[short galleon]

should i convert it to catalyst? give me some advice pls

[wispy epoch]

See?

[wispy epoch]

If you can make it your off piece no

[drowsy hatch]

It's weird my friends call me this item name

[stray adder]

@chilly mist

[karmic crystal]

omg funnelled all gear to you...

[subtle tundra]

youre playing with side characters though....

[sweet sinew]

Ok. Thanks!

[wispy marsh]

Only if you're top dps

[wispy epoch]

If you wanna be the world’s best striker

You have to be selfish

You have to want it all

[karmic crystal]

show the ilvl parse

[wispy epoch]

NOOOOOO

[karmic crystal]

:^)

[chilly mist]

yikes, meant the 639 specifically. It's still fairly "early" into the season i guess

[wispy marsh]

You have earned your title brother

[chilly mist]

just frustrated with horrible vaults recently

[stray adder]

I started gearing the rogue a week ago, I got baited into playing aug this season then my tank got deployed with the army so I got completely fucked lmao

[wispy marsh]

I need to go through on a Parse run

[wispy epoch]

Your tank?!

[wispy marsh]

got a couple ilvl 99's 3-4 weeks back and was happy about it

[royal lantern]

tank

deployed with the army

HMMMMMM

[chilly mist]

american for sure

[karmic crystal]

literal tank

[wispy marsh]

that was like 10 ilvl ago

[stray adder]

canadian

I should've said "my friend who is a tank in WoW"

lmao

[chilly mist]

lol

[wispy marsh]

How do you play with a 138,900 lb killing machine?

[stray adder]

excuse the grammar

I am a dirty french dog

[wispy marsh]

Just giving you shit

[karmic crystal]

its ok its perfect

just a funny coincidence more than any error on your part

[wispy marsh]

Should I find a guild y'all? I've taken this rogue about as far as I can take it via pugs and casual play

[drowsy hatch]

nobody actually thought you were referring to a real tank, was just funny phrasing

[wispy epoch]

Fr*nch

[stray adder]

lmao yeah ik it sounds funny

[stray adder]

actually

[little tulip]

🤓

[wispy epoch]

Mon cieur

[stray adder]

I am the worst type of french

[karmic crystal]

canadian

[stray adder]

not some exotic baguette man like Zac

[little tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/loaf-of-cat-gif-22190070

[wispy epoch]

Ew Quebec

[gloomy otter]

is the mad queen trinket any usefull for assa?

[karmic crystal]

it does big dam yes

[gloomy otter]

but only 1 time right

[karmic crystal]

every time you use it

[gloomy otter]

yeh i know but its only 1 big hit , worth switching it out for skardyn or crystal?

[karmic crystal]

will depend a little on ilvl, worth a sim

[royal lantern]

exotic?

[little tulip]

[stray adder]

yes?

like this

[wispy epoch]

Do you guys think Ibelin was a rogue?

[feral wasp]

show is quite overdramatized imo

[gloomy otter]

https://i.imgur.com/EoWFjzk.png

Is this combo worth playing? lol , cuz its 2 on use trinkets

[balmy condor]

yes

[indigo mulch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[balmy condor]

transmitter/skardyns + mandate is the best possible combo in single target

[indigo mulch]

What about my 639 broodsac? 😦

[gloomy otter]

worth in m+ tho?

[balmy condor]

I mean

it's a single target trinket

[final dawn]

Any feelscrafting on what to pick for m+? Yes, I am simming but takes some minutes 😄

[balmy condor]

so

probably not lmao

[gloomy otter]

aight ty brotha

[indigo mulch]

Why is mandate stronger than broodsac though? It keeps simming lower than my broodsac on st. 😦

[final dawn]

How comes that my spyglass 639 sims lower than 626 shadow-binding knife?

[indigo mulch]

The knife is op tho

[wispy epoch]

Name one encounter that’s single target that isn’t Silkran

Go on I’ll wait

[gloomy otter]

transmitter is very hard to use on bosses like queen imo 😂 the fcking orb straight goin into the aoe lol

[drowsy hatch]

Kyveza

[wispy epoch]

Ok

[wispy epoch]

Ok*princess and Silkran

Name one other boss…

[drowsy hatch]

Realistically rash adds shouldn't count towards much but uh, sure. Nothing else that's pure st

[severe wyvern]

arakara sacbrood mythtrack vs dead-eye spyglass mythtrack? Mainly for m+, what do you guys think? (already have deadeye, so in this case i could take something else than trink)

[wispy epoch]

I get a good caustic splatter on em

[little tulip]

spyglass is recommended for aoe i think?

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah it's just not actually useful

[short galleon]

guys haste can be worth for m+?

[little tulip]

high peaks when it lines up deeper valleys issue or something if u logic it out or something

[drowsy hatch]

Pretty sure haste is distinctly worse in aoe

[indigo mulch]

That would be a correct statment.

[gloomy otter]

whichi simulation options do i have to choose to sim a m+ run? or a m+ pull

[final dawn]

feelscrafting i would say that due to many bleeds, haste gets useless (mostly)

[short galleon]

is there like any minimum value should i keep for haste in m+

[drowsy hatch]

No, we have no actual breakpoints

[wispy epoch]

Feels so nice with feint off gcd in aoe fights. Have so much energy to play with that you can be maximizing uptime with feint

[indigo mulch]

You generally want mastery/some crit/vers in m+, you legit start having trouble surviving high keys without vers.

[wispy marsh]

feint off gcd was my favorite change lol

[little tulip]

what's ideal? 5-8%?

[severe wyvern]

so... arakara vs deadeye myth track xd

[wispy epoch]

If you’re improved feint, you should be the last one standing even with 0% vers

[little tulip]

healers drop rogues all the time
they're gonna top boomkin/casters first for example in practice

[royal lantern]

yeha but the level where vers in m+ matters is not when you ask questions like that in a class discord, cus you are Pushing keys at the top 0,1% level at that point

[indigo mulch]

I mean yeah

If your just doing 10's or 11's vers is not really needed.

[wispy epoch]

Anything below 14

Vers isn’t make or break

[royal lantern]

bruh, if you think in 14s you need vers

is some bigtime cope

"vers to survive stuff" is one in general

[wispy epoch]

bruh, if you think in 15s you need vers

Is some bigtime cope

[little tulip]

unrelated saw some youtuber saying subterfuge is good in necro wake/stone vault/gb with low cc comps.
be the mass silence and all that.

[indigo mulch]

I like vers. Anything that makes me take less damage and do more damage is a W in my book.

[wispy epoch]

It’s upfront though. You pay for it in the long haul

[royal lantern]

taking more dmg is good because i want my guild healers to suffer

[dusty crescent]

just woke up cracked a monster energy zero white

how ya'll doing?

[indigo mulch]

[wispy epoch]

Not a prime?

[indigo mulch]

Seams like a healthy choice.

!ui

[prisma monolith]

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[little tulip]

chicken burger, questioning if vers or healers are why i keep dying during improved evasion

[little tulip]

pass the monster brother

[royal lantern]

i got diarrhea by reading that

[wispy epoch]

Using improved evasion for survivability then being unable to prevent a wipe recovery 1 min later when the tank dies

😞

[dusty crescent]

no prime

[indigo mulch]

Improved evasion? o_O

[wispy epoch]

Bait and switch talent

[indigo mulch]

Oh bait and switch.

Bait and switch is glorious though. Such a good talent

[little tulip]

also elusiveness so b & s + elu or
improved evasion

[wispy epoch]

God why does Silkran’s big aoe have to be physical though

I fucking hate not being able to cloak it

[royal lantern]

3rd boss?

[dusty crescent]

make cloak immune everything

even bans

[royal lantern]

you can cloak that slam

[wispy epoch]

No way…

[royal lantern]

if you cloak in 1 sec before it happens

[wispy epoch]

I still get knocked and lose like

[frozen wren]

Is that myth trinket good for assa?

[royal lantern]

cus lol cloak coding

[wispy epoch]

30% of my ho

[frozen wren]

👀

[royal lantern]

the first second of cloak is "more" immunity

🙂

like, not a joke

[wispy epoch]

Don’t troll me

[royal lantern]

you can cloak the frontal on NW first boss if you cloak 1sec before he does it

the first sec of cloak is a "full" immunity

the game is a mess btw if you didnt notice

[final dawn]

skardyns is very good, but i would sim it

[royal lantern]

"very good"

its the best trinet of the Patch

[wispy epoch]

Here does this post here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/196724651039129600/1300594063430647838/Struggles_of_a_Mythic_Raider_1.mp3?ex=6722b99c&is=6721681c&hm=cd049c4af142ba0877dd47db2bcbb48897f277e638afbf6b7a6a13669c10bfbe&

This was me 2 weeks ago

[little tulip]

evasion is legit safer if that hasn't been said

[slow tulip]

how about timing it with shadowstep

works or?

[little tulip]

playing wuth ohk in higher keys

[indigo mulch]

Not standing infront of them works as well ;o

[little tulip]

vanish causes new fixate & cast

[wispy epoch]

Just press fucking feint

[grand comet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o7LZj5ptqdHNcLGHKxcaRQ 639 ring sims better than a 639 dagger?

[little tulip]

forgettable talent 0 rizz

[quiet oar]

He is right

[blazing pumice]

oh daggers mean squat

[spring sigil]

Is bottled flayedwing toxin from BRD?

[blazing pumice]

nw

it sux

[spring sigil]

Fuck....my mythic slot is that stupid trinket

[grand comet]

so i go 100% ring then

[blazing pumice]

that ring is kind of bis yes

[serene solar]

Considering your dagger currently is only 3 ilvl from max and has the right stats and that ring is a BiS ring replacing your ring that has the wrong stats. Yes

[blazing pumice]

he has a 626 OH

[grand comet]

i have 636 craft and 626 from princess

[blazing pumice]

i got that dagger in my vault too, the stats are meh

[serene solar]

Cause your ring is a champ track high crit low vers ring.

[gilded wasp]

hey guys , am i to low on haste ?

[spring sigil]

What a shitty shitty vault

[blazing pumice]

for what content

[gilded wasp]

M+

[blazing pumice]

you don't want haste for m+

[gilded wasp]

like zero ?

[blazing pumice]

simc will tell you to do 0% yes

[gilded wasp]

There are still lot of st in M+ but i'll listen to you thank you

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

ignore everything else said about stats

it doesnt matter

[blazing pumice]

that is true for raid st, it's not true for m+

[royal lantern]

🤓

[gilded wasp]

wdym by it doesn't matter

[royal lantern]

that it doesnt matter

you take ilvl first for mainstat anyway

[blazing pumice]

mastery crit is going to end up highest value in m+ and vers is going to be value over haste

[royal lantern]

and if you have 2 same ilvl pieces, you sim

[royal lantern]

shut up and tell people to sim allready jesus

[wispy epoch]

I broke 2mil dps on a 10 key tonight

Was pretty happy

[royal lantern]

instead of waving around stuff that is not generaly true

[west crown]

i wish ilvl always mattered. had a potential 639 ring from vault sims less than 626 ring because verse

[blazing pumice]

it is true

[gilded wasp]

i don't think sim is the way to go because i'll replace a lot of piece *since i'm ungear at this point , and i wanted to know which craft should i do

[royal lantern]

yes, rings/necks are sometimes a exception cus they dint have mainstat

[royal lantern]

well, cant help you then if you dont wanna sim

[blazing pumice]

there's nothing wrong with knowing what stats are better

[gilded wasp]

You didn't reead ?

I just said that i'll probably replace half of my gear this week

[blazing pumice]

just ignore him 🙂

[gilded wasp]

and sim depends of my actual gear

[west crown]

craft crit mas and move on

[royal lantern]

then wait with the craft?

or just recraft lol

its fucking Secondarys

why make a big deal out of them

[blazing pumice]

because they impact dps

[severe wyvern]

arakara myth vs deadeyespyglass myth?

[blazing pumice]

what a stupid argument

[royal lantern]

1% haste or mastery or crut makes no impact

[blazing pumice]

yes it does

[west crown]

Sims they are close and both good

[royal lantern]

just shut up allready with your missingormation jesus

we have sims for a reason

[blazing pumice]

by your logic, no one would sim and we'd just go for highest ilvl

[royal lantern]

people work on them for a reason

[west crown]

1% doesnt but 10% together from a lot of pieces matters

[royal lantern]

you do that for all slots that give mainstat until its the same ilvl, and then you sim, yes

[gilded wasp]

Well , sim is releavant when at least half your gear will not change

[blazing pumice]

if he is only doing m+, it is advantageous for him to preference mastery gear over haste gear

[wispy epoch]

“Sim yourself” is the equivalent of your teacher telling you to open a textbook

[gilded wasp]

I wanted to go for a craft early this week and i just asked which stats should i be safe with

[royal lantern]

craft w/e

[wispy epoch]

Haste mastery

[blazing pumice]

mastery/crit

[west crown]

you are safe with crit mastery

[royal lantern]

and just re-craft later

[wispy epoch]

So much shit has crit mastery

[blazing pumice]

just ignore clowns, it's mastery/crit

you can go and look what other m+ runners are using on https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/assassination/rogue/mythic-plus/overview/10/all-dungeons/this-week

[wispy epoch]

Mastery will always be good

[west crown]

Crit mas is what the guide writer suggests on wowhead

[wispy epoch]

After a certain amount of crit

[royal lantern]

literally bot commands made by the people that do all the sim and API stuff that tell you that you should sim the gear

"ignore them, im smarter, listen to me bro"

actual clown

[wispy epoch]

It becomes your worst stat

[blazing pumice]

your bot command has no context

it's true for raid, it's not true for m+

[gilded wasp]

yes yes i actualy read wowhead guide , and i simmed stat weights , but i wanted to know if there was a "minimum" of haste i should have

[west crown]

no minimums

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

again

😄

first sentence

[west crown]

only thing you should do is not value vers highly (not a dead stat though), and when your crit gets high, start simming crit gear because as deathstalker we have a lot of crit base anyway so it falls off

[wispy epoch]

The is

This

I literally want mastery and haste before anything else

[blazing pumice]

for patchwerk or dslice

[cobalt sphinx]

haste sucks

[blazing pumice]

patchwerk will tell you to get haste, yes

dslice will not

[gilded wasp]

Thanks guys , i think i'll wait a bit then

[hollow compass]

i currently have skardyn's grace (myth) and Crystal (hero) trinket, in my vault i got spyglass (myth) is it better or not then crystal ?

[wispy epoch]

At 629 ilvl

[west crown]

get myth track gear

[blazing pumice]

patchwerk or dslice

[wispy epoch]

Patchwerk

[blazing pumice]

yes, i did go over this several times

[grand comet]

is dslice ok to sim or 5 targets 1.5m would be better for aoe?

[spice spire]

Stat weight sim

Huh

[royal lantern]

really just

craft w/e, if you want mastery/crit just do it

equip items with higher ilvl

sim the relevant thing when 2 items of sams ilvl (5min patchwerk for raid, dslice for dungeons)

you mastered gearing as assa

[spice spire]

Dslice is fine

[blazing pumice]

dslice for m+

[spring sigil]

What level does mythic items start dropping from m+ again?

[royal lantern]

they dont

cus that would be degen af lol

[wispy epoch]

I have spyglass, the ansurak ring that’s like 3.8k crit, and the crit mast neck from Mists

[gilded wasp]

Tyty

[wispy epoch]

So I’m all critted out

[spring socket]

i swear spyglass is legit simbait in keys

[wispy epoch]

Sorry 4.5k

[spring socket]

half of the time its never on my main target

[wispy epoch]

Doesn’t caustic proc it?

Or is it auto attacks only

[spring socket]

big if true

not sure myself

[wispy epoch]

Fan of knives is being used too

[balmy condor]

oh how the mighty have fallen

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah but then what do you gain

[balmy condor]

spyglass was heralded as the best trinket of all time in bfa

[spring socket]

attacking* assumed its AAs only

[balmy condor]

less than 5 years later and now it's simbait

unlucky

[blazing pumice]

@gilded wasp this is what my profile looks like with 2% haste

in dslice

not patchwerk

[spring sigil]

Yeah i thought spyglass wwas better than sacbrood but sac always sims higher for me

[blazing pumice]

haste is still fine, but it's never going to be a topdog stat for m+

[iron jasper]

St in keys is so boring omg

Feels so good in raid tho

[gilded wasp]

Yes i got you thanks ! What is weapong dps btw ? is upgrading weap from 619 to 636 the best i can go for ?

[blazing pumice]

yes

[orchid pewter]

The power of ambush procs

[blazing pumice]

dagger should be your first craft

[cobalt sphinx]

only 1 weapon though, because offhand weapon sucks

[blazing pumice]

craft a dagger then recraft it (you can just stick an embellishing powder or something on it), then you can upgrade your OH for free

[jolly abyss]

should i get a crafted neck with crit/mastery? currently ive 11.8k mastery, will craft embellish sword today too but when i sim it, dps goes down

[blazing pumice]

the game recognises the recraft as having upgraded your OH

[gilded wasp]

If i just have one dagger upgrade i can upgrade the other one for free ?

[blazing pumice]

ye

same with rings, but they are low priority

[wispy epoch]

Mr money bags over here

[blazing pumice]

recraft doesn't cost much

[gilded wasp]

for rings i need to have both rings upgrrade to start upgrading a new one

[blazing pumice]

if you're on frostmourne i will do it for free kek

[wispy epoch]

Mind donating a couple bucks?

[blazing pumice]

yes

and same with trinkets

[cobalt sphinx]

dude i would definitely not make a neck or a sword

[wispy epoch]

This dungeon slice takes forever

[limber coral]

Would sac brood be better then empowered crystal for m+?

[cobalt sphinx]

they're like the same thing

[wispy epoch]

No

[blazing pumice]

they are about the same

[jolly abyss]

why?

[blazing pumice]

empowered crystal is like 0.1% better for me

[cobalt sphinx]

sword is for outlaw and you have a 639 neck

[jolly abyss]

oh i meant dagger

[hollow compass]

whats do you think is the best trinket combo for m+ and for raid?

[blazing pumice]

m+ it's skardyns/empowered

nfi about raids, raiding is for weiners

[west crown]

skardyn, and a passive or mandate

[royal lantern]

m+ andys thinking their minigame mode is serious

[blazing pumice]

yer raiding is real difficult

[wispy epoch]

66% then you’re done kiddo

This dungeon slice

Is gonna be huge