he's definitely not not a schizophrenic racist
#assassination
balmy condor
heavy canopy
Feels so good to FoK 3 mobs and get 4 CP’s though
spice spire
I’ll do it
woven shore
Yea fok Silvanas ass
mystic crest
I reckon blizzard just makes fok only grant 1 cp even if it crits
spice spire
Yea fok Silvanas ass
woven shore
limber lion
Feels so good to FoK 3 mobs and get 4 CP’s though
Damn maybe you got a hidden crit proc
heavy canopy
I always FoK when that void lady shoots her orbs at me
woven shore
Sir you have a very cute dog
heavy canopy
Can’t resist those feet
marble hemlock
fok should just generate CP randomly based on how much crit you have
spice spire
Damn maybe you got a hidden crit proc
Hidden opportunity is an outlaw thing
limber lion
:o
heavy canopy
It gives one CP when you use it too
drowsy hatch
why is it even giving combo points when im just mashing one button
doesnt seem like much of a combo
spice spire
Sir you have a very cute dog
Yes he is the best.
Here is a picture of him breaking the pet pic thread bubble
novel star
Feels so good to FoK 3 mobs and get 4 CP’s though
i dont really care since i have to hit another one anyway
4 mobs and 5
ur spitting
woven shore
Yes he is the best.
Here is a picture of him breaking the pet pic thread bubble
Where the head
novel star
but 4cp is just getting edged
woven shore
😂
novel star
fuck that bro
heavy canopy
Right right
novel star
id rather have 3
heavy canopy
I love edging
woven shore
spice spire
Where the head
He shrimping, removed his own head, too sleepy with lights on
heavy canopy
I never use a finisher
spice spire
I never use a finisher
Yeah I hardly know er
novel star
I love edging
woven shore
He shrimping, removed his own head, too sleepy with lights on
Poor guy
spice spire
Damn man didn’t cast another thing
woven shore
I only finish when im on top of the dps meter in raid
spice spire
All autos only
woven shore
And m+
spice spire
A real one
heavy canopy
Sometimes I let it drop to 0 just to FoK back up to 4😩
spice spire
marble hemlock
why is it even giving combo points when im just mashing one button
true, if you use the same ability twice it should just reset your CP
drowsy hatch
thats the change all rogues need
spice spire
true, if you use the same ability twice it should just reset your CP
WW new mastery
Holy
heavy canopy
We’re monks now?
spice spire
Beat u 2 it
drowsy hatch
But we should get no benefit for it, just make the class worse
iron valve
mashing light attack isn't much of a combo
spice spire
But we should get no benefit for it, just make the class worse
Ur a menace today eh?
drowsy hatch
spice spire
heavy canopy
Let him cook
spice spire
My 3 button is open rn
marble hemlock
if you just had it on one hotkey
novel star
i remember DH used to have annihilation bound on 2-4
I might do this
woven shore
Why nobody want to play mythic+ with me 😦
earnest remnant
i remember DH used to have annihilation bound on 2-4
i did that xD
novel star
on my havoc
marble hemlock
i did that xD
based
novel star
my 2 key is gonna break dawg
earnest remnant
i still have it on two different binds xD
cobalt sphinx
My 3 button is open rn
Yeah every time i swapped poisons it would get placed on 3, so i put feint there
marble hemlock
Why nobody want to play mythic+ with me 😦
its not about you. they just wanna play m+ with other people more.
woven shore
marble hemlock
why are teriyaki flavor potato chips so good?
novel star
dno never had em
spice spire
Yeah every time i swapped poisons it would get placed on 3, so i put feint there
3 was for snd
It’s free now
novel star
send me some so i can try
silent granite
Its been my experience with this weeks affix that I get invited significantly less
novel star
and ill have an answer ready
marble hemlock
dno never had em
not what i asked but ok
earnest remnant
why are teriyaki flavor potato chips so good?
teriyaki slaps
silent granite
versus other affixes
novel star
not what i asked but ok
i'm gonna do it and ur going in the note.
drowsy hatch
there's a korean market that opened near me recently and they have korean bbq chicken chips
earnest remnant
thats why
drowsy hatch
best chips ive ever had
marble hemlock
teriyaki slaps
true actually
heavy canopy
3’s such a high priority key for SnD, isn’t it?
storm forum
why are teriyaki flavor potato chips so good?
never had but probably cause every variation of sweet and tangy potato chip is good
spice spire
teriyaki slaps
Call me teriyaki
coral ibex
meh
earnest remnant
Call me teriyaki
damn u violent?
spice spire
3’s such a high priority key for SnD, isn’t it?
I started this when we didn’t have CttC
So like
earnest remnant
WIFE BEATER
coral ibex
12345 are cooldowns, not rotational abilities
earnest remnant
eh no
spice spire
damn u violent?
Nah but I’ll violently slap your insides
heavy canopy
1 sucks, my ring finger can’t press keys very well
earnest remnant
but not because its a trip with you
spice spire
Ya feel me
novel star
12345 are cooldowns, not rotational abilities
i see now
coral ibex
i prefer QERTF
novel star
kinda based actually
marble hemlock
okay wow
heavy canopy
2, prime real estate
marble hemlock
now im sad
earnest remnant
but because i dont wana go to korea
earnest remnant
can why go somewhere else?
marble hemlock
sure
balmy condor
@marble hemlock what if I bind 1-0 as gar mut mut rup mut mut env mut mut env, and then just 1234567890
thoughts?
buoyant schooner
how are we using vanish now on our burst with master assassin?
earnest remnant
like oxi's house
marble hemlock
can why go somewhere else?
id say we could go gnome but you already went.
drowsy hatch
I have 1 and 2 as spammables but then qerfzxc as common buttons
coral ibex
balmy condor
how are we using vanish now on our burst with master assassin?
so that it covers the end of kingsbane
quasi ingot
<@210784027752398848> what if I bind 1-0 as gar mut mut rup mut mut env mut mut ...
big brain
earnest remnant
id say we could go gnome but you already went.
marble hemlock
<@210784027752398848> what if I bind 1-0 as gar mut mut rup mut mut env mut mut ...
sure
buoyant schooner
so that it covers the end of kingsbane
ok, so last 6 sec, thanks!
heavy canopy
<@210784027752398848> what if I bind 1-0 as gar mut mut rup mut mut env mut mut ...
You mean FoK env FoK env FoK env, right? If it doesn’t work you need more crit🤓
/s
quasi ingot
i got all the hallows end achievements.. /clap
marble hemlock
You mean FoK env FoK env FoK env, right? If it doesn’t work you need more crit🤓...
anyone ever told you that youre not funny?
earnest remnant
if not i will
heavy canopy
Ouch
alpine pagoda
full tide
!tea
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
like, do you have nothing better to do in your life that you were sitting here the last 30 minutes just waiting to quote whispyr on smth every 5-10minutes to make a "joke" about fok because he blasted you for being kinda weird?
fickle quest
I was watching zerocool's replay of his +15 ara and noticed he was opting not to ambush / apply dsm out of some stealth and vanish windows. Whats the reason for this?
heavy canopy
wtf
novel star
I was watching zerocool's replay of his +15 ara and noticed he was opting not to...
you dont ambush if you have darkest night
storm forum
I was watching zerocool's replay of his +15 ara and noticed he was opting not to...
probably using darkest night
novel star
because ambush sucks and is only used for the mark
spice spire
severe lack of feet in this channel
Dog
quasi ingot
you dont ambush if you have darkest night
i was told earlier you DO ambush even when you have DN proc...
earnest remnant
https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-jumping-raccoonjumping-gif-24012628
me if Queen ansurek doesent die soon
novel star
that stops you from consuming ur marks
novel star
you can ambush if DN doesnt have enough duration
dusty crescent
i think dogs are what he wants
Speaka da language
spice spire
i think dogs are what he wants
Lil bro just has to see my pfp wdym
spice spire
me if Queen ansurek doesent die soon
Ur so real for that
quasi ingot
that stops you from consuming ur marks
im sorry i may have mispoke. going into a new trash pack with DN proc'd you still ambush
marble hemlock
im sorry i may have mispoke. going into a new trash pack with DN proc'd you stil...
you do not
novel star
having mark + dn active at the same time (what that achieves)
means
you cannot consume the marks
until you consume the DN first
its not good dont do it
quasi ingot
you just open with garrote then i assume
novel star
yeh
marble hemlock
ye
quasi ingot
then build to 7 and envem to get the DBM up
novel star
Ye
earnest remnant
Ur so real for that
storm forum
proggers
quasi ingot
perfect ty much @novel star and @marble hemlock
spice spire
novel star
good luck have fun
spice spire
earnest remnant
very happy we got done with that boss rather fast
quasi ingot
blizz needs kicked in the pp for putting Dorn portal at the bottom of Org
drowsy hatch
im starting at my guild is about to collapse %
spice spire
Oh that’s way better
drifting cedar
!fuu
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plush iris
sup, first key as sin. Based on details. Is there anything you guys can find that i need to work on.
marble hemlock
very happy we got done with that boss rather fast
ye i mean
plush iris
Anything that needs to be higher/lower on the breakdown
marble hemlock
i love that
spice spire
Envenom seems low
spice spire
Rest seems fine
marble hemlock
love losing half the 2nd intermission pulls to the game being dogshit
pseudo cosmos
what is this torture?
plush iris
Rest seems fine
Aight thanks!
drowsy hatch
what is this torture?
a casual guild averaging 611 ilvl trying to do heroic ansurek
pseudo cosmos
a casual guild averaging 611 ilvl trying to do heroic ansurek
just go 10man and kill her
marble hemlock
dont think these words should be in the same sentence
drowsy hatch
we are going to
stray adder
a casual guild averaging 611 ilvl trying to do heroic ansurek
let em cook
runic hinge
a casual guild averaging 611 ilvl trying to do heroic ansurek
Same here tbh
heavy canopy
Our casual guild was just like that, then one random pull we just killed her
pseudo cosmos
like after the changes they did to the 10man i only do 226 queen
dusty crescent
I'm in a guild of friends... I'm never hitting mythic
pseudo cosmos
anything more is just cursed
earnest remnant
dont think these words should be in the same sentence
hopefully freedom soonTM
marble hemlock
hopefully freedom soonTM
ye im not looking forward to even starting prog
knowing itll take us at leastl ike
3 more weeks
the thought of progging for like another month
is giving me conniptions
pseudo cosmos
gilded wasp
Hello i wanted to know if feint reduces litteraly all aoe damage , for example the orb explosion of the second boss of dawnbraker ( all stuff that doesn't has a floor indicator )
marble hemlock
Hello i wanted to know if feint reduces litteraly all aoe damage , for example t...
it doesnt
it works on almost all aoe spells (or rather, spells you might consider aoe)
but the game is a bit weird about what is and isnt aoe
i.e. fall-off damage, so damage that gets reduced you further you are from, say, a tank explosion, often ends up not being reduced
pseudo cosmos
until you swap to elusivness for the 20% damage reduc ontop
spice spire
Same here tbh
Same bestie
marble hemlock
kyveza both the twilight massacre and the regicide are not considered aoe either
so honestly, its often just a "try it out" thing
and see if it works or not
storm forum
it kind of goes the other way too though, sometimes DoTs that you wouldn't expect to be reduced by feint get reduced by it
marble hemlock
ye
storm forum
old game is inconsistent unforunately
woven shore
whisp do you like this area
raw lodge
I saw a video that ranked all dps from easiest to hardest, and they said assa is the hardest rogue spec. That actually true?
spice spire
I saw a video that ranked all dps from easiest to hardest, and they said assa is...
Probably not
But idk
storm forum
I haven't played the most recent version of sub or OL, but recently I would have put Assa in the middle.
heavy canopy
I usually default to whether DBM yells “AoE” at me
fickle lotus
When you vanish for MA at the end of kingsbane, is there any point in using ambush over garrote there? Obv pressing garrote next global as it's still buffed for 6 sec
cobalt sphinx
assassination is pretty easy right now
raw lodge
Their reasoning was that because assa is a dot spec, paired with having to set up for kingsbane windows made it the hardest
stray adder
whisp do you like this area
I don't
drowsy hatch
I mean I can see that being hard
raw lodge
But idk, I struggle with sub so much
drowsy hatch
compared to WAKE OF ASHES
grand trail
seems like some logs were remoived but not all
drowsy hatch
But you'll also be better or worse at certain things as a person
woven shore
fuck girm batol
stray adder
i got my trinket so idfc
fight me
pseudo cosmos
fuck girm batol
based
woven shore
❤️
stray adder
mist is not a cata dungeon
quasi ingot
mists is easy. just the puzzle is old and boring
drowsy hatch
I would agree if mists wasnt the easiest dungeon by a lot
winged quail
last boss needs a bigger hitbox and Mists is fine
heavy canopy
GB’s cool except for 3rd boss
stray adder
I will bud
I will slowly walk away from you and youll never catch up
drowsy hatch
well, dawnbreaker is easy too, but people fly through the floor too much for my liking
quasi ingot
I will slowly walk away from you and youll never catch up
gonna ride away on that 90usd mount?
spice spire
I will slowly walk away from you and youll never catch up
That’s what you think
heavy canopy
last boss needs a bigger hitbox and Mists is fine
Also make poison shit on the ground visible
stray adder
big muscle zugg zugg
winged quail
I thought I was gonna hate Dawn but it's actually not a bad dungeon
stray adder
ill fight you on a leg day
pliant remnant
yeah i also don't hehe xd
red bloom
royal lantern
I thought I was gonna hate Dawn but it's actually not a bad dungeon
dawn has the good thing going on that its fast as fuck
like, its length is how dungeons should be imo
swift dagger
Dawn is tight, bosses a bit boring but I like it
scarlet wyvern
do we drop SBS for MA atm?
stray adder
ty
winged quail
yeah Dawn is real nice for crest farming
swift dagger
do we drop SBS for MA atm?
read pin
stray adder
it's not like any of us has anything better to do anyway
spice spire
it's not like any of us has anything better to do anyway
Every single second I’ve been memeing here I was also working wdym
runic hinge
Same
winged quail
I've been playing -bonespike to run MA and it's better than it sounds
stray adder
Every single second I’ve been memeing here I was also working wdym
we're talking about grinding GB for skardyn
winged quail
for M+
runic hinge
I only come here when I get paid to do so
spice spire
we're talking about grinding GB for skardyn
Oh yeah just loot it
Only took one run baby
scarlet wyvern
read pin
i dont have friends to blast so i am a spredsheet nerd thats why i am still asking
stray adder
i would but it dont exist
quasi ingot
im still waiting on Whispyr to get his WoWhead page in order to explain MA to all the noobs who use that site 
stray adder
hahahaha
swift dagger
i dont have friends to blast so i am a spredsheet nerd thats why i am still aski...
pin says dont drop sbs for ma but u do u
stray adder
based
swift dagger
I also wouldnt cuz sbs is good qol
stray adder
I hope you let out a "rip bozo" or some shit
spice spire
Nah we were in voice
swift dagger
in addition to the dmg
winged quail
I thought dropping SBS for MA would feel awful to play but I tried it and it's honestly not bad
spice spire
I was joking the entire time that I was going to loot it as the rat rogue among us
Then apologized as I saw it
swift dagger
its not a big deal either way
spice spire
Healer also got gale
stray adder
he must've been heartbroken
spice spire
So was a juicer run
spice spire
he must've been heartbroken
I don’t think heartbroken is the right word
winged quail
I thought dropping SBS for MA would feel awful to play but I tried it and it's h...
Especially on Mists and NW where burst windows are valuable on the bosses, MA adds a good bit
quasi ingot
strokin?
dusty crescent
one day ironclaw whetstones won't be expensive... I hope
quasi ingot
one day ironclaw whetstones won't be expensive... I hope
should of bought a token when it was like 400k
undone pollen
Where does treacherous transmitter fall in the single target dps and M+ dps ranking
drowsy hatch
falls into pretty rad dude
winged quail
about even with Skardyn but cringe to play
stray adder
I can handle transmitter
that's hot
winged quail
I think Skardyn is a good bit better in AoE but that might be wrong now not looked in a bit
quasi ingot
you guys usually just Macro Skardyn with DM?
winged quail
yup
undone pollen
I have all trinkets at 626, I’ve been trying some combinations but I refuse to use mandate
quasi ingot
alright cool. i dont have it yet but when i get it tomorrow from vault ima macro it
pseudo cosmos
tbh if they made mandate have no cast time
id be ok with it
fast bite boss ass with rotation kk but no
undone pollen
In m+ if used correctly mandate is nearly another ability
But the cast time makes it awful, if removed I would use it
pseudo cosmos
exactly
winged quail
at least you can move while casting it, unlike beacon, puzzlebox or grieftorch
puzzlebox was not enjoyable but so strong
acoustic roost
S4 guzzler was castable on the move
winged quail
didn't play much of S4 tbh
stray adder
i miss grieftorch
undone pollen
I’ve been using empowered crystal and Skardyn but was wondering if treacherous might be better than empowered
coral ibex
man i used to hate siege and now its growing on me, is that fucked
severe sparrow
puzzlebox opener 
was a good time
winged quail
I’ve been using empowered crystal and Skardyn but was wondering if treacherous m...
nah no point going double on use like that
severe sparrow
30 seconds of piano
drowsy hatch
it might be better than crystal but crystal is rad
swift dagger
lemme just solve this puzzlebox real quick
drowsy hatch
crystal skardyns is my goat
winged quail
i need to farm a spyglass but I've ran so many Siege's and I hate it
coral ibex
im alternating siege and grim for either of the rings
winged quail
running skar and sac rn
undone pollen
My issue with deadeye is it applies to the target if I’m not mistaken which can be troublesome in effective use
severe sparrow
my favorite part of spyglass is the pirate noise it makes all the time
swift dagger
My issue with deadeye is it applies to the target if I’m not mistaken which can ...
It does apply to target yes
winged quail
meh with how Spatter works I prefer to be locked to one target most of the time
mouseover the bleeds focus macro kicks and cc
coral ibex
when i realized elvui has built in mouseover casting i was so relieved
dont need to make macros
haughty flicker
do people still not know base game has an option for mouseover casting since like dragonflight
balmy condor
The game has built in mouseover casting
wise pike
!wa
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runic hinge
do people still not know base game has an option for mouseover casting since lik...
Df was too long ago
woven shore
??
haughty flicker
ships are for outlaw
scarlet wyvern
ships are for outlaw
fr?
woven shore
do you go out 1 point of poison bomb for MA ?
drowsy hatch
Usually sd is cut for ma
woven shore
sd?
drowsy hatch
It's in the pins
tall jay
do people still not know base game has an option for mouseover casting since lik...
Umm I didn’t know lol
normal mist
Where did that come from xD
pastel talon
The Crystal of anub ims worse than my ovinax egg but most of the top sins use it, listen to murloc or sim overlord?
drowsy hatch
Sorry whispyr I'll go back to horny posting
balmy condor
The Crystal of anub ims worse than my ovinax egg but most of the top sins use it...
Whichever, crystal is passive, egg you have to manage
woven shore
whisp DADDY*
balmy condor
If you can’t manage egg, don’t use it
pastel talon
Ideal egg stacks?
balmy condor
Under 20
drowsy hatch
!tea
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
why do we want to cast thistle tea with every shiv?
drowsy hatch
That and skardyns dm are like the only real macros
hardy prairie
this was the one i was looking for ty
balmy condor
why do we want to cast thistle tea with every shiv?
Energy and mastery during cooldowns is neat
quasi ingot
ok you talked me into it. i shall macro it now
runic hinge
Energy and mastery during cooldowns is neat
We have so much energy in ST now I was basically not using charges until I macroed
balmy condor
Rank 1 on mythic rash has it macro’d so it can’t be that bad
stray adder
If i dont get skardyn from vault tomorrow im unsubbing...1 year sub btw
quasi ingot
Rank 1 on mythic rash has it macro’d so it can’t be that bad
is that you?
stray adder
is that you? <:PogO:1160145144872435792>
yes the padder himself
balmy condor
Nah, I’m whispyr of reformed mental
Rank 1 is whispyr-kil’Jaeden
Different people
quasi ingot
If i dont get skardyn from vault tomorrow im unsubbing...1 year sub btw
personally email me the video of you unsubbing
thanks for clearing that up
stray adder
im not sending you 💩
balmy condor
thanks for clearing that up
Yeah no worries
drifting cloud
Rank 1 is whispyr-kil’Jaeden
that guy killed his guildies to do more add dmg
storm zinc
Is there any merit to play fatebound? It's simming higher for me than deathstalker but noone plays fatebount
balmy condor
that guy killed his guildies to do more add dmg
So false worstie
quasi ingot
i think sims are wonky for deathstalker?
balmy condor
Is there any merit to play fatebound? It's simming higher for me than deathstalk...
In raw single target sure yeah
stray adder
he also blackmailed his tank into doing adds a certain way
woven shore
how do i use my vanish on opener +5 enemys for MA envenoms
quartz spear
Can we not Cloak the Heaving Wretch on NW first boss??
balmy condor
i think sims are wonky for deathstalker?
They are not
balmy condor
how do i use my vanish on opener +5 enemys for MA envenoms
Shroud can only be used out of combat
drowsy hatch
Super cloak*
quasi ingot
he will vanish into a shroud
balmy condor
Based
woven shore
ambush gar rup rup gar fok ct
fok fok vanish envenom fok envenom fok envenom ?
quartz spear
It will only work on the first second of cloak
Wait really? Explain? I'm confused
balmy condor
ambush gar rup rup gar fok ct
fok fok vanish envenom fok envenom fok envenom ?
Sure I guess
drowsy hatch
The first second of cloak is better than the rest
woven shore
Sure I guess
alr thx sir
strong wing
no nerfs yet for court shitttt
balmy condor
Does court need nerfs
drowsy hatch
Because game is fun e
strong wing
Does court need nerfs
mmmm its second day of trys, i think its easier than kyveza
woven shore
quartz spear
The first second of cloak is better than the rest
Ok well that would explain why I usually am able to but this time it didn't work
Is there some required reading? First time I'm hearing about this
woven shore
no nerfs yet for court shitttt
mythic sir ?
drowsy hatch
No it's part of the description
balmy condor
mmmm its second day of trys, i think its easier than kyveza
So a boss that’s later than a boss that got nerfed is easier?
strong wing
yep
balmy condor
Seems like court needs buffs no?
drowsy hatch
Usually there's like 1 spell a season that is impacted by it
quartz spear
Idk if the description really sheds much light but hmm ok
drowsy hatch
Well it won't be too specific
woven shore
i think kyveza is just overtunned
harder than ovinax ?
stray adder
1 hour maintenance tomorrow, i dont believe that
drifting cloud
So a boss that’s later than a boss that got nerfed is easier?
court also got nerfed
drowsy hatch
But I think wretch is the only thing you have to super cloak? Someone can correct me.
strong wing
harder than ovinax ?
yea 100%
woven shore
great
strong wing
in ovi nax nowadays you skip almost entire phase 3
drifting cloud
but it was hotfix nerfs on that same day when those pvp item exploits were happening
woven shore
my guild is on ovinax rn
balmy condor
court also got nerfed
Yeh like a billion years ago bud wake up it’s a new patch
drifting cloud
im hate watching you in 90min
drowsy hatch
Whispyr is wretch the only thing that needs to be super cloaked to work rn
drowsy hatch
On NW
balmy condor
Whispyr is wretch the only thing that needs to be super cloaked to work rn
Yes only thing this season afaik
woven shore
anyone else doing delves and world quests still ?
strong wing
Btw whispyr the recommended build for court running CT do you think its the go to or you have no clue yet? None is running CT
I hoped you reached that boss first so I could just copy paste ur build
runic hinge
oh right its that 1 week when EU moved clocks
Stop moving the clocks I can’t handle this madness
drifting cloud
its fine but realistically will just do same dmg because of all the downtime in the fight
balmy condor
but you didnt yet
Tbh the fact that you didnt already have the stream up this morning in anticipation of me turning it on tonight is pretty disappointing, I thought you had more dedication to your hating
Expected better
drifting cloud
vast loom
how do you guys feel about playing with ovi nax trinket?
balmy condor
Btw whispyr the recommended build for court running CT do you think its the go t...
I just assume it’s better since CT is so strong and you have a decent amount of uptime on 2T
vast loom
is it easy to keep the correct stacks>?
drowsy hatch
ovinax trinket makes me throw up in my mouth a little personally
balmy condor
Even with downtime like CT cranks and it’s very close to just being used in single target anyway
Like if it weren’t for the tier buffs, you would want to be casting it in single target
Now it’s 2+
drifting cloud
I think kush played CT on their reclear this week you can prob find it in his vod
(I could be lying)
strong wing
Okay Ill try it today
there s only chinese logs in public
and they only caustic this boss
drifting cloud
yeah because its 20 logs by prob 3 different people
balmy condor
It’s fine to not do CT I just don’t see a reason not to
drifting cloud
china splits and/or rmt sales go hard
drifting cloud
are you red or blue
strong wing
but kyveza was a bit more weird
strong wing
are you red or blue
redd
drifting cloud
doing web?
strong wing
yea
but i feel like there's no dmg compared to kyveza
at least phase 1 and interphase
kyveza was a fucking pain in the ass I had to move cloack for debuffs instead of where almost everyone is using it (interphase)
Dont want to reclear it tomorrow
woven shore
xd
fervent moat
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woven shore
would be great if you reclear it
strong wing
we spent 250 trys to kill her
woven shore
x-x
strong wing
unnecesary pain
drifting cloud
were you evasioning charges before you moved cloak to it?
they def hurt, but both options seem fine
strong wing
with charges do you mean the debuffs you get when phantoms go trough you?
drifting cloud
yeah
strong wing
Yea at first I was feinting them
but DOT hursts so bad
And I decided to start cloaking them
drifting cloud
4 or 5 heal?
strong wing
so you dont lose uptime
strong wing
4 or 5 heal?
5 cause my RL is healer
and seeing people dying make him thought we needed more healing
but going 5 is giga troll
with 4 you almost skip enrage
since the dmg most of the time aint healeable
strong wing
I dont find a reason why still doing it is the correct way to do it
drifting cloud
but if you were struggling with dot with 5 heals thats more concerning
strong wing
I struggled the same with 4 than 5
pliant terrace
guys I have a question
is my guild in the wrong for threatening to bench me after I macroed "/s HAWK TUAH SPIT ON THAT THANG" into my kingsbane
strong wing
I mean look at this
woven shore
priest out healing shaman ?
strong wing
priest out healing shaman ?
There was no healing requierement
Death log
2 Lines with 0.3 difference each
you r dead
ornate grotto
!tricks
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Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
strange jasper
Is assa hard to learn? Coming from a super simple spec (ele) assa seems very complex, i could be wrong tho
umbral sigil
its not
strong wing
Dont make the mistake going 5 healers, it will save you 100 trys
drifting cloud
Dont make the mistake going 5 healers, it will save you 100 trys
I mean respectfully youre just wrong
drifting cloud
maybe you feel like that based on how your guild did on the boss
but theres a reason 80% of recent kills are 5 heals
vast loom
you dont even need half of part 1 on that now too snd just works
strong wing
I mean respectfully youre just wrong
I mean the dmg isnt healeable
And now with the buffs
going 4
You skip last intermission
drifting cloud
youre not supposed to get hit by 2 regicides lol doesnt matter if you have 1 healer or 8
vast loom
5 heals helps a lot more than you realize, we have dps brain
intermission is full of range issues
strange jasper
That seems simple enough
vast loom
That seems simple enough
yeah its not bad, theres a few extra button presses but overall once you get the flow its easy
strong wing
I mean do what ever its better for you, but with 250 trys doing with both 4 and 5 healers FOR US 5 healers was useless
strong wing
Did you kill that boss yet?
azure flare
Yes but just as you we went with 4
But there's no reason to say that 5 is a mistake lol
strong wing
Well maybe we just had way way different experiences
azure flare
Probably yeah
strong wing
But this boss is mostly individual, knowing your class and surviving by yourself with good movement
You cannot argue that right
regal cape
!tea
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Shiv/Tea Macro
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/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
having more healers means players are more comfortable during pulls and focusing on dps output and not their life
cutting a healer for a dps isn't always the simple +dps of the difference between them
strong wing
having more healers means players are more comfortable during pulls and focusing...
The thing is if your life falls Its probably cause you missplayed and took 2 lines or didnt use defensive when you were suposed to
coral ibex
if your guild is sick, do whatever
strong wing
and having a mistake here is almost instakill
azure flare
Thing is having an extra healer allows you to make more mistakes and not insta die
It also means if a healer dies ur pull isnt auto over
3 healing that fight is a lot harder than 4 healing that fight when one of the healers hit the deck
strong wing
which healer can react to a random player eating double line before boss executes you? Mine werent able
strong wing
3 healing that fight is a lot harder than 4 healing that fight when one of the h...
I mean yea 3 is just too much, but 4 is standar isnt it
azure flare
From what i saw in logs
Standard is 5 healers for most groups
But i could be wrong last time i checked was like
3 weeks ago
fervent moat
oki
coral ibex
the irony of having "rank 1 rogue" but asking for talents
strong wing
Just checked recent logs and some people runs 4 healers others 5
idk do what ever is the best for you
but keep in mind with the buffs you might skip 1 intermission 🙂
drowsy hatch
just going to say this from the perspective of someone who doesnt give a fuck
youre both doing the peak of content rn
you can do it slightly differently
azure flare
Tbh i just rando entered the discussion to give my pov already said that groups just do what works
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fallow canopy
thoughts on playing fatebound on m silken just to not have to worry about juggling the marks?
strong wing
They talked about that a few days ago
Could be even better since you have more burst for dmg amp windows
azure flare
At least not now that we are spamming stuff
strong wing
but dont know if someone tried yety
fallow canopy
They talked about that a few days ago
shit, I hope the search function on discord works
mint night
hello guys
I just want to ask which spec is easier from assas and outlaw
for someone that never played any rogue
azure flare
Uh
coral ibex
hard to say
coral ibex
the last time i hadn't played rogue was 2007
strong wing
I just want to ask which spec is easier from assas and outlaw
I would say assa by far
coral ibex
i think both specs are equally easy
strong wing
for raid should be easier
coral ibex
if you are bad at reacting to procs, dont play outlaw
strong wing
if you are bad at reacting to procs, dont play outlaw
+1
mint night
😄
coral ibex
its one of the fastest specs and is often at a gcd of 0.8s
drowsy hatch
Or if you dont want to get it
coral ibex
your subterfuge windows have a tolerance of 0.4s to get 8 gcds in
mint night
holy
strong wing
Did eleem killed court?
mint night
sounds more exciting
fallow canopy
but dont know if someone tried yety
I'll try to be a visionary then
spice spire
completely flat
Just like the earth fr
coral ibex
if outlaw had the damage profile of assa it would be the greatest spec of all time, insanely fast with big burst
strong wing
I'll try to be a visionary then
Do it and share thoughts after king
worldly sail
damn, flat earthers weren't lying
coral ibex
if you don't like ace in the hole procs, pound dirt
azure flare
At least its consistent
mint night
outlaw damage output is extremely boring tho
like boomy ?
azure flare
Somehow
azure flare
No boomie actually has very good highs
azure flare
is this still the build being used after changes or is wowhead outdated?
This is hybrid ur looking at
Not used for m+ no
runic hinge
damn, flat earthers weren't lying
What a disgusting spec
azure flare
Most ppl swapped to MA with 1 or 2 points in subterfuge
wide ridge
Most ppl swapped to MA with 1 or 2 points in subterfuge
you got the build code by any chance?
coral ibex
they did not you big fat liar
azure flare
you got the build code by any chance?
Im in bed sorry cuh ;-;
But u can check raider.io
wide ridge
Im in bed sorry cuh ;-;
sadge
strong wing
sadge
Cassualaddict runned those ones in his highest recent key, dont know if those were the ones kayu meant
azure flare
Its one of em
strong wing
Yea
azure flare
There are so many variations
strong wing
I just saw depending on key they change talents
a few of them
so no clue why or which one is better where
drowsy hatch
its unfortunately better to just know the concepts of what to take or not
azure flare
Yeah
drowsy hatch
which is both difficult to explain and understand for yourself sometimes
strong wing
but that's a thing most people arent able to learn
azure flare
Understanding the talents is a better idea cus most talents for assa rogue are good
You can swap a lot for different stuff
drowsy hatch
So just gotta do your best
strong wing
understanding talents and deciding when and where its tc's thing almost
or at least for me it feels like that
drowsy hatch
nah its true
its just difficult to express
especially when you cant really just point at bigger number
Or if you do its like .5% bigger number which sims differently for everyone
west crown
!up
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median roost
!pooling
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Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom
- For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
ebon notch
@balmy condor mental check
balmy condor
horrid
ebon notch
chin up
subtle cipher
balmy condor
I love AI trying to identify itself
karmic fog
aany good BRD HC gears that is good for us?
drowsy hatch
negative
mint night
I would say assa by far
why tho
prisma sundial
stray adder
i agree outlaw is harder
alpine nebula
thoughts about dropping 1 pt in lethal dose for twist the knife in M+ build?
better funnel and worse similar ST?
I see some discussion about this now - potentially dropping sudden demise over LD
no free lunch
drowsy hatch
dropping SD is the more common move
I can't speak to dropping a point of lethal dose
but I haven't seen that
wide ridge
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFBVBU...
ty homie
spice spire
Rn with the double dip idk. Maybe post reset
drowsy hatch
busted in what way
civic bloom
Alot of dmg
drowsy hatch
yeah I mean caustic is usually our top source of damage in m+
woven shore
!hero
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Both Hero Talents are viable in all content, and are within 2-5% of each other.
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle in easy content like heroic/m0 dungeons
drowsy hatch
yeah fatebound is ahead in pure st
drowsy hatch
whispyr is playing is on kyveza prog rn
woven shore
im watching
woven shore
i gotta find out why
past bobcat
Is fatebound easier right
drowsy hatch
fatebound is 0 extra effort
civic bloom
is wowhead outdated for m+ or no?
drowsy hatch
no its updated
civic bloom
ok
woven shore
why do he macro kb with cb?
was it that your next ability crits or was it next Finisher ?
so you have to build cp shiv kb cb and then envenom ?
drowsy hatch
next damaging ability crits
drowsy hatch
and its cold blood kb rather than kb cold blood
real solar
!guides
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snow hamlet
and its cold blood kb rather than kb cold blood
Where do you watch this note?
balmy dome
!tea
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
foggy juniper
There is any point to run sub if you don't run MA / iron wire?
balmy condor
snow hamlet
Doesn’t cb for fatebound only active on envenom ?
balmy condor
correct
snow hamlet
Why do a macro on kb and cb?
hasty prairie
Sin rogue is a good choice for a beginner rogue player right? So far ive been running sin its easy
balmy condor
Sin rogue is a good choice for a beginner rogue player right? So far ive been ru...
yep spec is silly easy
hasty prairie
Cool. For like 2-4s ive been doing overall 800k-900k idk if there is any way to improve. Any tips?
Also does caustic splatter apply to 1 target only or multiple
foggy juniper
<a:HUHH:1170286990005108766>
I mean, any benefit?
hasty prairie
Like if i use improved garrote+rupture do i have individually mutilate each target or only 1
foggy juniper
Also does caustic splatter apply to 1 target only or multiple
1
hasty prairie
Fuck ok. Guess I'm stupid loool
spice spire
No you’re not
Stupid is assuming you know and being wrong.
You asked a question
Everyone needs to learn at some point
foggy juniper
Now i want to learn why people run sub without MA and iron wire
hasty prairie
Cool ty guys.
spice spire
Now i want to learn why people run sub without MA and iron wire
I’d also like to learn
snow hamlet
want to try fatebound in m7, I always lose dm when intersection
foggy juniper
Vanish
woven shore
alright
balmy condor
99.99% of people will run MA or iron wire or both
woven shore
looks like DS is better for me
inner blaze
is it better to let rupture fall off and then apply a 6-7 cp rupture or refresh it with a 3-5 cp rupture
smoky drum
How do I properly play Bone Spike?
balmy condor
you have like a full 10 second window
woven shore
How do I properly play Bone Spike?
what xD
drowsy hatch
Where do you watch this note?
late response but its in the pins
arctic tusk
what are some timers on silken mythic i should be holding if anyone knows
faint vessel
How do I properly play Bone Spike?
press rupture twice in aoe
foggy juniper
carnage/imp gar
Yeah but you want to have your dots on 5 targets right? Like theres no need to apply rupture or gar to 15 mobs
That what got me confused
balmy condor
you want to apply imp gar to as many targets as possible
inner blaze
you have like a full 10 second window
ah so there's no clipping or anything?
is that the same with garrote?
crystal vault
kyveza first kill, i got 3 items 
woven shore
kyveza first kill, i got 3 items <:Surebud:1083827360815665235> <:fateboundheads...
mythic ?
foggy juniper
So on a pack of lets say 12 mobs i want to spam gar?
faint vessel
garrote pandemic window is shorter because garrote is shorter
crystal vault
you got 639 trinket ?=
2x dagger + boots
hasty prairie
Nice gz
woven shore
lmfao
spice spire
Not a bad haul still
foggy juniper
Only rogue benefits
hasty prairie
I'm getting screwed in gear rn. I hate doing mythics
balmy condor
ah so there's no clipping or anything?
!pd
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Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
smoky drum
press rupture twice in aoe
In ST am I trying to stack?
crystal vault
my guild is dropping agi daggers 24/7, i got like 7 already xd
hollow talon
what boosting discords to people do these days i need some gold
haughty flicker
7 daggers
faint vessel
In ST am I trying to stack?
in ST you hit rupture and bone spike refunds CP so youd just move onto your next builder
foggy juniper
you want to apply imp gar to as many targets as possible
Because I thought I'd want to only apply bleeds to 5 mobs and start working on spatter, ig rupture spam that is
ornate onyx
!wa
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balmy condor
Because I thought I'd want to only apply bleeds to 5 mobs and start working on s...
okay, if you read what I said
I specifically said imp gar
smoky drum
in ST you hit rupture and bone spike refunds CP so youd just move onto your next...
Perfect, thank you .
faint vessel
rupture twice, garrote till theyre all garroted, profit
crystal vault
after rogue changes, whats the better specc for silken mythic, or w/e dmg
brave vector
does anyone know if there is an easy way for me to import someones colorings for their plater profile to mine without changing any of my other settings?
kindred crescent
should you save darkest night proc or just pop whenever
shut pollen
can someone share me a shadowmeld into stealth macro? I just changed race today
balmy condor
should you save darkest night proc or just pop whenever
pop as soon as possible actually
waxen thunder
pop as soon as possible actually
Is it worth letting rupture drop to pop darkest night?
balmy condor
yes
waxen thunder
Thanks!
kindred crescent
pop as soon as possible actually
Thank you Whispyr!!
balmy condor
np
low hare
hey all im new here, and def and old neck beard when it comes to the game lol,
but if anyone has time, id love to hear what people think of this post,
been maining sin for 20 years, and really really not liking the new tea changes
wondering how yall are feeling, and how your specs are fairing?
coral ibex
it doesn't matter if you use your auto tea procs
balmy condor
consensus is either "REEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE IT SO MUCH"
or you just realize that it's not really important
low hare
i dont hate it persay
low hare
but i will say, it makes effective energy management harder in a lot of senarios
balmy condor
we just macro the tea to shiv
and don't care for energy
and don't care for pooling
and just go on with our lives
low hare
yea pretty much what im doing now
doesnt feel great in m+ tho thats for sure
specially on chain pulls
coral ibex
the only time you feel it is in ST with an aoe build and its really not that bad then either if you practice good fundamentals of the spec
distant helm
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snow grail
Im using the LE wa pack, and sometimes in the middle of a raid fight, i get a garrote icon with a blue highlight around it. is this improved garrote or somethign esle?
ebon steppe
!fuu
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slate crown
Im using the LE wa pack, and sometimes in the middle of a raid fight, i get a ga...
It also might be the icon I added to vanish to tell you you can vanish to reapply imp garrote.
However vanish use changed recently so I've removed that with the last patch
snow grail
ah okay ill update
cinder ingot
best video guide on assasin ?
steel geyser
best video guide on assasin ?
vocal cradle
!fuu
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wooden pebble
Do y'all think we'll see assa in mdi?
slate crown
No
iron valve
yes
slate crown
do not think
drowsy hatch
Its not impossible
marble hemlock
since weve seen assa in the time trials
its likely well see them in the broadcasted events too
main issue is that things are very volatile with the recent and sweeping changes
proper nest
I started to play assa rogue again after playing a bit of outlaw but as assa do you still wanna use vanish after deathmark or before kingsbane, or is vanish now just used to reapply garrote after kingsbane rotation ?
drowsy hatch
Depends if you're running master assassin
latent badger
can we fit in a comp with frost/enh somehow?
assa aug oddly share a similar-ish spot in comp building so prolly?
drowsy hatch
if you're running MA you want to do it for the last 6/9/12 secs of KB (depending on subt)
latent badger
3xmelee is messy tho
drowsy hatch
If you aren't running MA you vanish for imp garrote and IC
wooden pebble
where do we stand numbers wise vs frost and enhance?
grim glen
!tea
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
its kinda w/e in +9/10/11 keys
proper nest
If you aren't running MA you vanish for imp garrote and IC
okey thanks
wooden pebble
I don't know whether I can trust mythicstats/archon much as a metric for performance
vapid jacinth
pin says no pooling, but do you all pool before dm/kb window at least?
marble hemlock
you cannot
marble hemlock
pin says no pooling, but do you all pool before dm/kb window at least?
definitely not. you generate more energy than you can spend during DM/kb
so going into it with high energy is actually counter productive
vapid jacinth
okay cool thank you
stark scroll
twin plume
Atheists where are you now
regal linden
**Shiv/Tea Macro**
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of t...
why shiv? I don't quite get it
spice surge
Because tea is used during shiv
regal linden
ic
inland escarp
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daring imp
how in the holy heck can i raid lead and play assassination at the same time
coral ibex
liquidreminders addon, put your raid calls on reminders and read them off as they pop up
balmy condor
just you
wispy epoch
liquidreminders addon, put your raid calls on reminders and read them off as the...
Wild that’s a thing
nova kelp
Idk my damage drops along with my will to exist after to many pulls too, that's normally a lot more than 5-6 though
more like 500
I start to spend more time in /r chat just proposing new dumb guild names like <Wiquid> or <Albussy Fumbledore>
wispy epoch
how in the holy heck can i raid lead and play assassination at the same time
We only press like 50 buttons a minute on avg in raid
wheat tiger
coral ibex
is this the mythic ovinax tree?
balmy condor
yes
coral ibex
thanks boss
rotund oak
Atheists where are you now
waves in atheism
steep gust
yes
If i needed to squeeze out more boss dmg on ovinax, do i just run the normal raid build w/ caustic?
stray adder
i stg if i dont get skardyn in vault tomorrow im gonna keep running grim batol
shut wave
So, you think you're unlucky? hah..... amateurs...
btw, yes... I lost a "1" roll tie
stray adder
So, you think you're unlucky? hah..... amateurs...
btw, yes... I lost a "1" roll...
skill issue
spice spire
So, you think you're unlucky? hah..... amateurs...
btw, yes... I lost a "1" roll...
OUTSKILLED tbh
covert jewel
If i needed to squeeze out more boss dmg on ovinax, do i just run the normal rai...
if your raid is lacking damage, singular focus from big ct and spatter will do more than full st+spatter
spice spire
i stg if i dont get skardyn in vault tomorrow im gonna keep running grim batol
brother, seek mental help
no one should do that to themself
covert jewel
- ct itself is doing a lot when cast on big amount of targets
steep gust
if your raid is lacking damage, singular focus from big ct and spatter will do m...
Oh really?
covert jewel
i think either way its better to play ct build
covert jewel
u will do more boss dmg with the one above 100%
coral ibex
CT cranks the boss, singular focus cranks the boss
steep gust
Glad I asked. Thanks!