assassination

[quasi ingot]

11.7/4

[drowsy hatch]

its 30 energy, not 30%

[grim jay]

armin

[balmy condor]

ain't nothin wrong with taht

[gilded belfry]

doh, thanks

[pliant remnant]

[silk bane]

fucking snitch

[quasi ingot]

1.9/10 looks but i hit 2.3k io last night. i think that atleast bumps me up to like a 2/10 now

[drowsy hatch]

half this chat would have you believe we start at 50

[grim jay]

thats revenge

[drowsy hatch]

with how much auto tea is complained about

[silk bane]

for wht? whatd i do! *gasps

[grim jay]

idk, didnt think you would ask

[pliant remnant]

Brother, that bumps you down to a 1/10

[silk bane]

its deserved. my dad said he lefft cuz of auto tea

i hate auto tea

[gilded belfry]

yeah not sure why Id bottom out energy like that in most play.

[quasi ingot]

AS IF YOU EVEN HAD A CHANCE WITH ME! you sexy heathen

[subtle tundra]

whats the chance ill be able to tank 10s on prot pally. i have close to 0 tank experience 611 ilvl

[drowsy hatch]

only scenario youll probably go low on energy is M+ spec ST

and its not bad

[rotund oak]

she's selling it,no way she's like that

[subtle tundra]

she mid af

dont care

[quasi ingot]

youre smokin bro

[sinful spear]

LUL man i love this server

[subtle tundra]

i dont smoke

whats stat prio on prot pally?

[quasi ingot]

you high on something

[sinful spear]

like 2 days ago i meet the current world rank 1 OL rogue in here, and today im seeing a wholeass discussion about whether taylor swift is hot

[quasi ingot]

@subtle tundra youtube yoda wow

[subtle tundra]

dont fucking 😂 me

[sinful spear]

this is so peak

[grim jay]

pot pally

[quasi ingot]

and im eating mcdonalds. ++ on peak

[grim jay]

2 ounces

[subtle tundra]

GOD man

i need to live in a place

where pot is easily acuqioarable

that word

[rotund oak]

haste/mast

[subtle tundra]

easy to get

[inland escarp]

I think yoda runs crit mastery though

[subtle tundra]

good thing vers isnt it

[quasi ingot]

i live in a state where pot is legal...hell i can drive a block down t he road to a dispensary. want me to pick you up something?

[rotund oak]

im not joking btw,prot builds haste/mastery 😂

[subtle tundra]

haste wtf

weird af

[rotund oak]

yes gcd

[quasi ingot]

i believe it depends on the build tho

[rotund oak]

no its not weird

[quasi ingot]

look it up semi weird

[subtle tundra]

sorry i play locked gcd specs

[subtle cipher]

Here you can find it at every corner lmao

[rotund oak]

almost all tanks work with haste

[subtle tundra]

2 hc very rare items

[quasi ingot]

look dont take it from me then..take it from yoda

[subtle tundra]

yep cock

[balmy condor]

the short green fucker?

[quasi ingot]

dont talk about me like that

but yes

[ebon geyser]

Hi question to yall , is it normal for me to run out of energy in boss fights in M plus?

[quasi ingot]

Yes

[spice spire]

Yes

[rotund oak]

yes friend its natural

[rose crown]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[proper hare]

gamers who do mythic, yall go ct on brood or just single dingle with spatter?

[quasi ingot]

i dingle single and CT when adds come out. dunno if its correct

[stray adder]

are we back to rogue discussions or is it still feet pics time?

[ebon geyser]

even in raid ?

[rancid crypt]

why we dont take cheat death in m+ anymore?

[spice spire]

Raid should be easier

[rotund oak]

yes even in raid

[dusty crescent]

She's... exceptionally normal looking

[subtle cipher]

Found a top 20 rogue not running IW, guess that's the secret strat

Fuck your tank

[spice spire]

Too much shit kills us

[proper hare]

elusive is better for m+

[drowsy hatch]

evasion op with off gcd feint. Also feint is just good

[quasi ingot]

Taylor Swift is a queen. yall just hating nerds

[subtle tundra]

i am hating hard

she looks so mid

[stray adder]

her bf is a zug zug

[ebon geyser]

btw is something making thistle tea instant activate ?

[halcyon portal]

Based

[spice spire]

Why are we rating people on looks

[stray adder]

arent you a gymbro

[drowsy hatch]

we should be rating tay tay on IO like people do for us

[rancid crypt]

so elusivness makes feint flat 20% reduce dmg taken ability/mitigation?

[subtle tundra]

i just want to make people who like her mad

[subtle cipher]

Let me find it sec

[rotund oak]

yeah there was recently introduced the 30 or less energy instant activation

[ebon geyser]

damn that sucks

[rancid crypt]

what about raid?

[quasi ingot]

i bet if Taylor Swift seen me..id get a smooch.

[stray adder]

from her bodyguard prob

[spice spire]

Yeah and I’m ugly as fuck

I don’t workout to look better

[stray adder]

sure about that?

[spice spire]

I workout because if I don’t hit those endorphins I’ll menty b

[quasi ingot]

if thats you in your pfp you already made it cutie pie

[real granite]

sad you cant do facepush ups uh

[spice spire]

Yeah I’m not vain enough to care about my looks

[rotund oak]

if u get used in managing ur energy in general,u wont notice it alot but might take some time to get used to it

[spice spire]

No that’s my dog, he’s the best dog ever and I love him

[stray adder]

start mewing and looksmaxxing

[balmy condor]

don't like him lie

that is him

in the pfp

[spice spire]

[quasi ingot]

i figured

[balmy condor]

quake's a dog and seli's a cat

[subtle tundra]

check my pfp

[balmy condor]

and ronkles is also a dog

[subtle tundra]

thats me

[proper hare]

cheat death is a raid talent pretty much

[balmy condor]

and koffing is a pokemon

[quasi ingot]

nobody asked lil bro

[rancid crypt]

btw, when i use Indiscriminate Carnage in m+, and run up to prio target and wanna spread rup and gar, should i only have the prio enemy targeted and spam gar or rupture on him and let it spread, or should i tab + garrote/rup?

[languid ferry]

so we dont pool for envenoms anymore? Just wanna have as high uptime possible on envenom buff?

[subtle tundra]

leafie

[balmy condor]

either works

[balmy condor]

pretty much

[rancid crypt]

do u spread fast with spamming on one target or tabbing?

[spice spire]

I mean I do.
To a degree but I’m objectively ugly as fuck.
I’m not vain to the point of working out solely to look better was more the point

[drowsy hatch]

You can spam on the prio target. That's way easier and probably slightly quicker, but changing target is technically better. Not much better though. 2 Ruptures on prio gets you 5 stacks of scent so that's enough

[blazing slate]

is bubbling wax worth using for raid?

[proper hare]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[quasi ingot]

is there a channel in here where i can post a selfie to get roasted?

[dusty crescent]

pet thread

cus you're prob a dog

[quasi ingot]

stop it honeybun

[dusty crescent]

JKJKJKJ

[stray adder]

assume your words

[quasi ingot]

they still do that roast deal on reddit?

[blazing slate]

is bubbling wax better than whetstones in raid?

[drowsy hatch]

whetstones is best

[dusty crescent]

I'm a big bald bearded brown man who lift heavy weight whoever finds this sexy send me gold

[quasi ingot]

im a skinny weird tattooed guy who gets called Machine Gun Kelly all the time..whoever finds this sexy send me gold

[prime hull]

Why dont I see the supercharger buff on my auras when I press shiv?

[novel star]

i’m gay

[subtle tundra]

fuck yea

[novel star]

there is no buff

[prime hull]

How can I track it then?

[drowsy hatch]

dont think any auras bother to track it

[proper hare]

i own a dog

[dusty crescent]

@quasi ingot i do, send me gold but then send me some gold too

[drowsy hatch]

since its not necessary

[novel star]

you don’t

[blazing jewel]

@balmy condor when are you getting a beard

[novel star]

it’s a waste of time to track

no gameplay around it

[dusty crescent]

if he doesn't ahve one now

[novel star]

just passive

[prime hull]

I wanted to highlight the 4th combo point when supercharger was active, to indicate I can finish on 4 and proc DN.

[dusty crescent]

prob can't grow one

[novel star]

that is not how supercharger works

it’s not ER

it’s just passive damage on the next finisher

[prime hull]

According to whispyr's pin, that is how it works now.

[feral mason]

thats not what he means

[novel star]

oh i see

[balmy condor]

??

idk like 6 years ago

[quasi ingot]

can we supercharge our rupture? i need bleed stonks

[blazing jewel]

Do you have one

[dusty crescent]

whisypr doesn't have a beard

c'monnn

[balmy condor]

you could I guess

[quasi ingot]

but very bad yes?

[balmy condor]

no?

[novel star]

uh it’s not a gain to finish early for dn i think

or if it is it’s insanely minimal

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter what you use your supercharge on

[prime hull]

If i finish on 4 with supercharger, it procs DN.

[novel star]

so tracking charger is cosmetic as fuck

[prime hull]

we don't wanna play around that?

[halcyon grail]

Nah, because body shaming is never cool.

[novel star]

yes but that’s not a relevant gain

[novel star]

no

[balmy condor]

you can

if you want

optimally sims do

but it's whatever

[prime hull]

I just couldn't find a supercharger aura to track.

[quasi ingot]

oh fair enough then. i was always scared and using supercharge for envens

[limber coral]

would it be recommended to macro skardyns to DM or are there uses outside of DM to pop skardyns?

[stray adder]

who is this Sims guy

[balmy condor]

macro it

[stray adder]

he does a lot of shit

[limber lion]

Macro good

[limber coral]

tysm

[prime hull]

So if I wanted to track supercharger, how do I do so since there is no buff haha.

[novel star]

what’s da % gain

surely tiny

[spice spire]

Sauce will be found

Cev heard gains

[limber lion]

Just track power usage. Once it uses power, it clears the buff

[spice spire]

He’s ready

[limber lion]

Nah I've been

Nothing new here

[stray adder]

just to wago and search for supercharger

[prime hull]

What do you mean by power usage. I have combo points and energy tracked, but nothing is highlighted and there is no aura buff for it.

[real granite]

and what if ~~ i~~ he wants to get bodyshamed

[limber lion]

Weakauras.

[spice spire]

Seek help bestie

[stray adder]

it's my kink

[spice spire]

Bro no

[glad osprey]

Is it worth speccing into indiscriminate carnage still?

[spice spire]

I’m the biggest hypocrite but love urself

[real granite]

thats fetish shaming

[limber lion]

Huh?

[spice spire]

For m+ yeah

[limber lion]

You always spec into it

Why wouldn't you?

[spice spire]

I’m in raid

[prime hull]

Thank you I will find one from wago, I was hoping to just quickly modify my Echoing Reprimand aura if it was a different buff.

[spice spire]

That’s why not

[glad osprey]

yeah im confused since the aoe build on icyveins doesn't have it

[limber lion]

If there's multiple targets, you use it

[glad osprey]

thats why i was asking lmao

[subtle tundra]

😔

[limber lion]

Big doubt

Link it

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[spice spire]

@marble hemlock

[subtle tundra]

yea seli youre so bad at guides

[limber lion]

Take a screenshot or link

Because I ain't seeing an "aoe build" in there

[drowsy hatch]

hmm

[stray adder]

time for a redbull

i am dying

[limber lion]

There's a raid build and mythic+ build

[coral ibex]

ain’t no way an m+ guide says not to take carnage

[limber lion]

And the m+ build uses it

[novel star]

[cold sparrow]

At ovinax, is it possible to disable nameplates of parasites?

[spice spire]

I see it too

[limber lion]

Awfully quiet that one

[spice spire]

I also checked easy mode sometimes it gets lost

[glad osprey]

oh wait i see i think i just got lost

[spice spire]

I’m confuse - iirc newer to the spec don’t think they’re trolling

[limber lion]

It's okay

[sick abyss]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[limber lion]

But yeah IC good

[glad osprey]

why would i be trolling? that's a bad way to troll lmao

[spice spire]

Ic very good for m+

[glad osprey]

i can think of way better methods to troll

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-interview-it-goes-without-saying-gif-12669775144079688963

[spice spire]

I’ve seen a lot of shit dog

[quasi ingot]

hes seen alot of dog shit

[limber lion]

bambi :´)

[glad osprey]

yeah im newer to the spec and i was looking at the hybrid build which i believe doesnt have

[limber lion]

What hybrid build?

[stray adder]

quake, i think you're supposed to say dawg

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-deer-gif-6471048343895749095

what a fake animal

[limber lion]

I'm seeing 4 talent builds

[novel star]

the deer

[limber lion]

Delve, Mythic+, Raid and Raid

[quasi ingot]

ST raid and Raid Cleave

[spice spire]

Nah

[novel star]

[spice spire]

Love dogs (the animal)

[limber lion]

Muchos confusion

[stray adder]

that's what outlaw rogues were using after 11.0.5, little critters

[spice spire]

And love the dogs (people)

[novel star]

zacro is typing…

[glad osprey]

i think it was raid cleave

[limber lion]

Where are you finding these builds

[prime hull]

Thank you for the weakaura suggestion, I peaked one online and they seem to use "Charged Combo points" to track supercharger which did the trick for me.

[limber lion]

Hybrid and Raid Cleave

There's nothing like that

[novel star]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[limber lion]

Yupyup

[novel star]

hybrid and stuff should only be on wowhead

[midnight mist]

what do i do with hero talent when say a pack is not fully pulled and my main target on which i want to cd on will be pulled slightly late, should i just ignore ambush till i can get to that target or do i always want my first gcd to be ambush on said target so i kinda just sit in stealth till i can

here image example, i want to cd big dude, but since he might awlays be slightly far i would have time to setup bleeds on casters first, do i do that or do i wait for big dude

[coral ibex]

ambush later

[subtle tundra]

little guy youre blasting as outlaw...

[novel star]

with subterfuge you can iw first and ambush later without having to vanish iirc

[subtle tundra]

you can ambush later with subteruge

[coral ibex]

this is a perfect use case of 2/2 subt

[novel star]

so yea

[midnight mist]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxL0rZXPZj8ieY2JOJNjWIUegl8izWGfM0?si=hf1py9ksfrIhGI_l

[spice spire]

Pick a quick focus target to spread your bleeds (and CT) and then use your darkest night buff on big add and blast him

If it’s enough for you to wait

[limber lion]

Subterfuge allows you to use Ambush whenever

[spice spire]

Also that

[coral ibex]

you don’t need to do all that, literally just press ambush

[subtle tundra]

classic

[midnight mist]

ok that sound good

[marble hemlock]

sup cutie?

[subtle tundra]

17 minute pull as outlaw

[spice spire]

Icy veins mentioned

Wanted to ping you

[marble hemlock]

ah

[vital haven]

whos tanking in that clip?

[marble hemlock]

ye i still need to update for the changes this week but IC in M+ build exists like yall figured out 😛

[novel star]

someone got very lost and allegedly found a hybrid build on icy veins with no carnage

which i think is impossible on multiple levels but

[midnight mist]

:/

[limber lion]

Yeah

Some psycho stuff going on

[marble hemlock]

mistakes happen so i always wanna make sure, thanks for the ping

[halcyon grail]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[novel star]

be nice!

or don’t

[vital haven]

im sorry im osryr im sorry

you are way ebtter than me at outlaw ill never be as good as youi

[spice spire]

Yessir I do this to ensure.
It’s not always the most easy thing to write due to formatting

[limber lion]

Is that not nice?

Seems pretty passive to me

[novel star]

cranking

[spice spire]

Cev is nice he’s just very straightforward

[novel star]

i’m just joking

[spice spire]

Yeah

You’d be amazed how many people actually think that tho

[subtle tundra]

Im not nice and im straightforward

[novel star]

I’m not straight

But i’m nice

[spice spire]

You’re actually very nice sometimes

[limber lion]

Maybe I'll start playing the goodie two shoes act again

[spice spire]

You’re just young

Nah dog be yourself

[subtle tundra]

ive been young my whole life

[quasi ingot]

rekt

[limber lion]

It's true

[quasi ingot]

make sure you thank the bus driver!

[limber lion]

I'm actually very kind irl

[spice spire]

If someone can’t understand who you are - then that’s on them.
Understanding comes from all sides

[limber lion]

No time for that stuff in the interwebs though

[arctic socket]

Don’t do that

[limber lion]

🕺

[limber lion]

Based.

Alright I'll take it

[spice spire]

You’re never malicious.
You just don’t sugar coat.
That’s the difference between us, and you’re better for it tbh

[novel star]

i had my argument(s?) with cev and now i like cev

u must simply go thru the process

[ancient pendant]

hi

[jaunty dew]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tpP318iVLxn4QH2aGVbg84

Am I simming something wrong? dmg feels a bit low

[subtle tundra]

unfortunately in real life its starting to get worse
ive been meaner and meaner this past year and i need to get better

[arctic socket]

@subtle tundra is on a new leaf

[pliant nest]

brd loot isnt useful for us, right?

[arctic socket]

Well the first issue is you have the 639 in offhand

Swap it

[spice spire]

Why do you have your higher weapon in oh

[arctic socket]

No 626 trinkets which is wild

[quasi ingot]

true. take back the taylor swift hatred right now

[jaunty dew]

Embelishment procs more on mh no?

[jaunty dew]

Got the trinket when gilded was capped :\

[spice spire]

Happens with stress. Sometimes you just have to center yourself.
Life’s hard it’s easy to let it get to you

[spice spire]

No

[arctic socket]

No

[arctic socket]

L

639 boots

L

[jaunty dew]

eh?

[subtle tundra]

not just stress, but people made me change 😦

[quasi ingot]

i could be crazy @jaunty dew but you have too muc haste going on? somebody correct me if im wrong here

[spice spire]

Yeah I get that.
But change isn’t always bad, be yourself first and foremost. And if that’s meaner so be it

[spice spire]

Stats don’t matter tbh

[limber lion]

Well, I wouldn't go that far

[cobalt sphinx]

what's so bad about 639 boots lol

[limber lion]

I know how to be malicious too

[cobalt sphinx]

those are good

[rotund oak]

yo man at approx 20-23 seconds the man envenoms and the mark falls,is that a bug? https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/iYjdCHCoQO8D8Ype6/3QseZTVibr7G?invite=cr-MSxDQW4sMTY3MDkwNjg5LA

[jaunty dew]

I think he's trying to say I upgraded boots instead of trinket

[spice spire]

You can be. You’re not actively

[limber lion]

Very true

[limber lion]

Those health numbers not being shortened

is actually demonic

[azure flare]

Nah its fine

[arctic socket]

I’m hating on the fact he hasn’t got the 639 helm ;P

[cobalt sphinx]

that's weird, i think it's fine to prioritize myth gear over hero gear

[subtle tundra]

ive become more blunt, less forgiving which should be better in the long run

[arctic socket]

Trinket is big

[jaunty dew]

Of course. No point in hoarding gilded crests

[rotund oak]

yeah the initial mark bug comment form raid is shortened,he didnt max cp envenom and DN fell off,checked the logs

[quasi ingot]

this happend to me last night while on dummies...i got invited and changed phases and most of my dots fell off

just assumed they fell because of the phase change

[cobalt sphinx]

idk i simmed it and chest to 639 was like the same or more damage than skardyns to 639 for me

[limber lion]

That's not what I was saying

Just that his hp doesn't say 5.5m and rather 500560505050

But yeah, that's not a bug

The dummy resets

If you look closely

[rotund oak]

yeah u meant the health bars,i was just focused on the whole thing

[limber lion]

Before he Envenoms, the dummy resets entierly

[limber lion]

Yeyey

'

[rotund oak]

cool thx

[limber lion]

Here before he Envenoms, the dummy has reset everything

[rotund oak]

yup it resets

[jaunty dew]

My actual stats

[spice spire]

2% vers

You live nothing

[jaunty dew]

Living on the edge

[azure flare]

Being low hp is his comfort zone

[jaunty dew]

With feint being off gcd

[spice spire]

Brother

Idk how you ever live the siege dot

[jaunty dew]

lol

I do

[azure flare]

Siege dot?

[jaunty dew]

xD

[azure flare]

What about

Dawnbreaker dot

Ticking for 1.7m lol

[coral ibex]

feint eva vial

[azure flare]

Healer losing their mind

[coral ibex]

pray

[spice spire]

Bro siege dot was ticking me for 2.4

[jaunty dew]

What level?

[spice spire]

[jaunty dew]

I ran a 12 and didn't find it too annoying

[spice spire]

11 lmfao

[azure flare]

[rotund oak]

yup its nasty it ticked on me on a 10 for 2mil+

[jaunty dew]

Evasion, vial, feint with elusiveness

[azure flare]

Bro

[rotund oak]

yeah

[azure flare]

Evasion is 2 min cd

[jaunty dew]

cloak one, evasion the other

if you get a third

potion

[spice spire]

Yeah I’m thinking on 10s it’s a feinter

Elusiveness I mean

Holy

[azure flare]

Sweat on every dot

[jaunty dew]

Not rly

I run with a premade

Got a prot paladin

[spice spire]

All melee 10 sweating my balls off

[azure flare]

Im thinking more about dawn +12

[jaunty dew]

Can dispel one

[azure flare]

When that third lieutenant hates u

[spice spire]

Oh ur laughing

[jaunty dew]

?

[azure flare]

Oh paladin ok moving on

[spice spire]

Prot Pally makes it easy

[quasi ingot]

my buddy plays a prot pala...its nice to see him have like 200 interrupts by the end of a run

[spice spire]

Let me rephrase

[azure flare]

Prot paladin is a true mitigation machine for dps

Its nice

[spice spire]

It doesn’t eliminate the difficulty

[jaunty dew]

Prot warrior makes it easy with nerub trinket and their 12m hp

[spice spire]

But it’s utility helps a ton

Ye

Same shit

[jaunty dew]

so whats your point

lol

have a comp that compliment the other classes

[spice spire]

The point is it’s nice utility

[azure flare]

Bro hes nkt shitting on u

[spice spire]

That’s the entirety of it

?

[azure flare]

Not

Hes saying prot paladin helps out a lot with util

Check wowhead is innocent

[spice spire]

This time

[quasi ingot]

its ok wowhead i like you

[azure flare]

Fr

[spice spire]

[jaunty dew]

Of course it does

But thats the whole point of have a premade that compliments each other

[azure flare]

I mean sure?

[spice spire]

so we agree

?

[azure flare]

Why are we agreeing in circles

[spice spire]

That’s literally my comment

[azure flare]

[jaunty dew]

If you aren't trolling yes.

I thought you went like "oh you have it ez"

[azure flare]

[quasi ingot]

people are agreeing and complimenting prot pala and hes getting defensive

[spice spire]

Immediate follow up

Buddy

[azure flare]

Yeah its weird

[spice spire]

Like I’m not trolling I even said “oh I worded that shittily”

[jaunty dew]

Where did you see me getting defensive?

[azure flare]

...

[jaunty dew]

All good

[azure flare]

Nah

[pale socket]

rogue duel to the death

[azure flare]

Moving on

Hate evokers!!!

[spice spire]

You definitely took it defensively

Otherwise this thought doesn’t arise

But agree

[quasi ingot]

nobody is trolling bro. lol people are just agreeing and you think others are trolling/meaning you "have it easy"

[spice spire]

Ban augvoker

[azure flare]

Fr

[quasi ingot]

not a big deal but nobody is being negative. just chatting and complimenting pala tank

[azure flare]

Wish i had a pala tank

I notice huge leaps on survivability with even just a retri

[spice spire]

me rn

[azure flare]

"Sac me pls"

[quasi ingot]

omw

[spice spire]

Yeah Paladin is a really neat utility class for m+
Wish more tanks had the same

[azure flare]

[spice spire]

You mean broodsac right?

[cerulean walrus]

Quake

[spice spire]

Hello young ohio man

[quasi ingot]

n.....yes??

[spice spire]

[cerulean walrus]

Ara Kara Sacbreed morelike

Hey hey

[spice spire]

[quasi ingot]

nobody talk..everybody stop speaking..i gotta throw a load of laundry in..i dont wanna miss out incase my girl Taylor Swift comes back up

[cerulean walrus]

[spice spire]

Not the tswizzie comments

[cerulean walrus]

Quake you can’t escape her

[arctic socket]

I didn’t expect the day sin chat would mainly discuss Taylor swift

[cerulean walrus]

It’s always someone

[zenith cedar]

interrupt bananza aside, the best defensive these days is to kill shit fast and prot pala doing 1.5m overall does that pretty well

[quasi ingot]

i just recently joined...

[spice spire]

Dog what I’m saying

[arctic socket]

Imagines not being in this discord server for years

[proper hare]

fear of dying everytime i get it

[arctic socket]

Been here longer then quake

[spice spire]

Couldn’t be me I just joined this year smh

[proper hare]

• here

[cerulean walrus]

Been here longer than you

[arctic socket]

5 long years

[proper hare]

havent played retail since wod xD

[cerulean walrus]

[arctic socket]

[stray adder]

dont think thats a flex

[spice spire]

Oh no I actually joined in March 2020

[drifting cloud]

yes and?

[arctic socket]

It definitely is

[spice spire]

But @balmy condor is a fan of memeing me

[cerulean walrus]

2016 is a fake year didn’t exist

[spice spire]

Real

[cerulean walrus]

Ryler you don’t exist

[stray adder]

[drifting cloud]

youre the one from Ohio

[wraith kettle]

What´s the best talent built now for m+10 and more? im watching some different builts.

[cerulean walrus]

Yep

Don’t make me come over there and derail a train

[quasi ingot]

whats wrong with Ohio? im from Illinois...basically the same

[cerulean walrus]

[deep gyro]

anything and everything all at once

[dawn heath]

does evasion work on the shooting mobs in Siege of boralus?

before teh spotter

u know

[dawn heath]

can i run with evasion and dodge the shots

[cerulean walrus]

No you’ll die

[dawn heath]

ok

[quasi ingot]

shooting mobs? i see alot of guns in SoB personally. even ones with cannons

[spice spire]

This is up in the air and attributes likely
To what you need.
Base build is good for aoe but suffers from st usage.
TTK/MA/subt is a good mix of both and provides more single target than the other

[dawn heath]

i mean here

can u evasion run?

[cerulean walrus]

You will die

But feel free to try

[wraith kettle]

Ill test this one now, ive been testing with sanguine blades before

[subtle cipher]

https://raider.io/characters/cn/isillien/傲慢贼?season=season-tww-1

fuck IW

[spice spire]

Gross

[cerulean walrus]

Whispyr mental about to plummet

One patch and suddenly iron wire is hated

[arctic socket]

You can drop it

But why?

[cerulean walrus]

Maybe it’s the FotMs

Maybe they’re to blame

They don’t want the utility

They just want

[mossy sundial]

how long does bubbling wax last?

[cerulean walrus]

Dam

[spice spire]

I do enjoy blaming @ebon notch

[cerulean walrus]

2 hours

[subtle cipher]

he is top 5 sin rogue

idk if he is fotm

kek

[cerulean walrus]

You can goon for 2 hours with your bubbling hot wax

[limber lion]

I mean if you actually spent some time looking deeper

[mossy sundial]

through death still?

[limber lion]

You'd see that he uses Iron Wire in plenty of dungeons

[subtle cipher]

yeah

[cerulean walrus]

Yes

[subtle cipher]

i was talking about the last one

[ebon notch]

what did i do now

[mossy sundial]

thank you

[limber lion]

He skips it on some of the obvious ones

Grim Batol he takes it

In NW he plays a completely different build

[subtle cipher]

ara he doesnt

[limber lion]

Yeah

[arctic socket]

I couldn’t imagine nw/gb without iron wire

[limber lion]

Not much use there

[arctic socket]

I don’t want to

[limber lion]

There's plenty of rogues who skip IW on some dungeons

[subtle cipher]

just have everybody playing eng

[limber lion]

Like a lot of people don't play it on Mists

[arctic socket]

I just spec it and forget about it, I’m also not doing high enough keys where I have to worry about stuff to hard

[strange python]

We have any bis in BWD?

[spice spire]

Didn’t play rogue before this season

Gonna call it as I see it

[spice spire]

No

[arctic socket]

Does someone have a feint macro where it won’t double use?

[vital blaze]

hey guys sorry for asking you this i'm new on rogue i saw a streamer using this with a macro with the deathmark is this a toy?

[arctic socket]

I got way to used to spamming it and now I find myself using double charges

[subtle cipher]

stop spamming it

[spice spire]

This is the buff from skardyns grace

[limber lion]

!tea just use this but change it to feint

[vital blaze]

thank you

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[limber lion]

And remove the Shiv line

[stray adder]

Skardyn does not exist

fake news

[midnight mist]

ty for tips assa people im now a one trick poney assa

[limber lion]

Np

[spice spire]

You always have been

Since cata

Wdym

[arctic socket]

Goated

[mossy sundial]

tbf there is a couple dungeons where ironwire just doesnt get a lot of value so swapping it isnt the worst if you have a competent team. pugging? every dungeon every day take it

[midnight mist]

oh ye sorry

[limber lion]

I mean, as memey as it is, sometimes damage is the best utility

[arctic socket]

It’s also your best defensive

[stray adder]

based

[unreal cedar]

Zac will you change your UIs envenom bar for TTK tracking at all

[limber lion]

If you actually have no use for Iron Wire whatsoever, it's a pretty safe bet to spec into Sang and kill that pack ever so much quicker

[stray adder]

if you hate pugs, taking off IW is great

[spare cargo]

how do you caustic splater of rasha guys ?

[limber lion]

I have always been #1 dps in every single key that I have done

So not sure how much dropping IW would do

[mossy sundial]

how are you guts feeling about ttk on bosses in m+?

[limber lion]

It certainly doesn't increase the damage my allies do kek

[limber lion]

You don't

[mossy sundial]

feels like im struggling to keep both stacks up

[final dawn]

Any recommendations on what to wear and why?

[limber lion]

You don't need to keep them both up, that's not the point

[spare cargo]

so why does whysper has so much Caustic dmg ?

[limber lion]

Sim

[midnight mist]

no

(yes maybe )

[final dawn]

I think that sim does not count in the neck proc, does it?

[mossy sundial]

the general idea is to prevent overlap and get a higher overall uptime no? but ideally you keep both refreshed with pandemic

[spice spire]

Because they cheesed and brought every single add to the edge

If you can convince your guild to do the same

You’re in

[subtle cipher]

[spice spire]

But also warriors to not warrior

And fdks to not fdk

[balmy condor]

ain't even cheese

😩

it's just how we do adds man

[subtle cipher]

padding

[spice spire]

Riddle me this Batman

[mossy sundial]

sure whispyr

sure

[limber lion]

Yes and no. The first part is correct, but ideally you do not keep both refreshed with pandemic. If you don't have the energy to maintain 2 stacks, it's completely fine

[spice spire]

Where was your fdk during this fight

[unreal cedar]

As a humble and loyal fan I am requesting it

[balmy condor]

he plays ST

[drowsy hatch]

ah paid off your fdk to play st

[spice spire]

I rest my case (cheddar)

[limber lion]

Proud of my boy

From shitting on himself for his blue parses

Now he's racking up r1's

[spice spire]

He’s a king

[quasi ingot]

who we talking about

[balmy condor]

I'm top boss dam too what am I supposed to do

I'm just hitting boss

[mossy sundial]

gotcha, so its just a if you can situation to keep more than 1 stack up

[balmy condor]

and our add strat lets me caustic

what do you want from me

[spice spire]

Ur bussy

[storm forum]

delete ur daggers for our entertainment

[spice spire]

[drowsy hatch]

just your admiration

[short comet]

where them shaman at youre blocking from the raid

[limber lion]

Again, no. It's just to prevent losing uptime on Envenom. You don't really have to think about it. Sometimes you Envenom twice in a row, sometimes you slap a Rupture between 2 Envenom casts

[limber lion]

It's fine either way

[balmy condor]

we have one of those too

[stray adder]

are those LFR parses?

[balmy condor]

mythic rash

[ebon notch]

who you flaming now

[spice spire]

Mf are you hate watching me or

[ebon notch]

you pinged me noob

[spice spire]

Yeah not for that tho

[ebon notch]

kinda for that

[spare cargo]

ty!

[foggy juniper]

was said that wrist + belt are the best for m+, but literally every top sin rogue im seeing its running crafted dagger

[ebon notch]

answer ho

tho*

[balmy condor]

turns out that every top sin rogue doesn't want to waste crests crafting 4 embellishments for 0.1%

[foggy juniper]

really hard to believe that top 0.1% rogues doesnt care about 0.1% more performance

[stray adder]

do you know who you're talking to

lmao

[foggy juniper]

yes

[balmy condor]

yeah my bad bro

they'll just waste 180 crests

crafting 636 gear

when they could upgrade other gear

[ebon notch]

top 0.1% rogues are also usually raiding at a high level

[balmy condor]

for more

[limber lion]

Wild take

[balmy condor]

using the same crests

[ebon notch]

in which case crafting a weapon is the best choice

[storm forum]

can you even get 4 embellishments and fully upgrade ur gear?

[foggy juniper]

90

[mossy sundial]

crafting the dagger was also the better play early and its just carried over

[limber lion]

180

[balmy condor]

they have to craft 2 items

90*2?

[foggy juniper]

they already have wrist

why 2?

[mossy sundial]

if they couldve had a myth dagger week 1 they wouldnt have crafted one potentially

[balmy condor]

aight sure they could recraft it

and then go into raid and recraaft

[storm forum]

the wrist for raid and optimal m+ are different

[balmy condor]

and then go out of raid and recraft

[golden loom]

First Mists run ever, a +6, feel like my caustic looks good even though I really struggle with kingsbane usage in dungeons

[scenic nacelle]

Oh oh

[balmy condor]

and then go in raid and recraft

and then go out of raid and recraft

[scenic nacelle]

His mental is deteriorating

[balmy condor]

and then go in raid an recraft

[stray adder]

moral of the story: BUY TOKENS

[balmy condor]

and then go out of rraid and recraft

good fucking luck with that

[foggy juniper]

wrist + belt was told to have similar performance in raid and better on m+

so..?

[scenic nacelle]

[serene solar]

nooo keep going man

[mossy sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-rubber-room-gif-10524477174166992043

[proven jasper]

Hows the mental recraft going for you

[ebon notch]

crafting weapon in raid is almost always the best bet

[serene solar]

then goes in raid and recrafts

[ebon notch]

you're self-reporting here

[limber lion]

Trying to "optimize" or minmax for mythic+ is absolutely wild.

[scenic nacelle]

Shattered

[static glacier]

thoughts on fb for court?

[final dawn]

you simply need more experience in running keys and then you will have a feeling of when to use and when to hold cds

[foggy juniper]

things you expect top 10-20 rogues on the planet would do ig

[storm forum]

most people crafted embelished dagger early cause getting 2 mythic daggers isnt realistic

[sinful spear]

wait, 4 embellishments?

im so confused

[limber lion]

Not really because Mythic+ is a massive environment where things like that literally do not matter

[sinful spear]

WAT

[indigo leaf]

break

[limber lion]

Tank pulling differently, your team pressing their buttons differently, you positioning differently, you moving out of melee range for 1s

[foggy juniper]

im pretty sure for the top 0.1% they do.,

[limber lion]

All of that is more than 0.1% gain you would gain

[limber lion]

No

[stray adder]

are you part of the top 0.1%?

[ebon notch]

bro link your top 0.1% title

[golden loom]

yeah its kinda scary to que up for runs tbh when trying to learn tho idk

[ebon notch]

before i lose my shit

[limber lion]

The people at 0.1% are literally just playing whatever the fuck they want

[foggy juniper]

bro, some of them even changed race for 0.1%

[ebon notch]

you're cosplaying

[limber lion]

They don't look at sims or theorycraft or shit

[foggy juniper]

imagine crafting a belt lol

[limber lion]

they just slam shit on and do whatever they want

[stray adder]

bro is baiting, there is no way

[proven jasper]

I crafted a belt

A

[limber lion]

They literally do not

They change race for compeltely different reasons

[proven jasper]

Self reported

[limber lion]

It's not for damage

[ebon notch]

i went dwarf last season despite being a dps loss cause i couldnt live otherwise

way more important to live than to do 0.1% more dps

[limber lion]

Yeah, people play dwarf because of the racials

not because it does more damage

[drifting cloud]

shadow priest player talking

[ebon notch]

truuuue

[limber lion]

if racial damage mattered, EVERYONE would play orc

literally

[storm forum]

if they changed race, it wasnt for 0.1% dps, it's cause they liked how something looked better or cause some mechanic was pissing them off and they wanted dwarf purge or meld or something for it

[limber lion]

every single melee

would be orc

[ebon notch]

i wish i was belf ;-;

[limber lion]

but orc is a dogshit race otherwise

They swap races for utility

not dam

[balmy condor]

it's literally not optimal to spend crafts for a third embellishment man

what the fuck are you talking about

[indigo leaf]

imagine spending 180 crests for a 0.1% increase through embellishment instead of spending 180 crests on upgrading actual pieces of gear and getting a lot % of increase

absolutely cooked

[balmy condor]

do you know how the upgrade system works in this game

[foggy juniper]

looking at their gear doesnt seem like they have anywhere else to spend 90 crests

[limber lion]

I don't think he realizes who he's even talking to to be fair

[foggy juniper]

90

[ebon notch]

yeah im pretty huge ngl

[stray adder]

he's baiting

[indigo leaf]

180

[subtle tundra]

i will bark at you

[foggy juniper]

most of them have either belt or wrist, to make either belt or wrist is 90 lol, they wouldnt need to make both, wut

[indigo leaf]

that belt or wrist is crafted with the wrong embellishment, and since they still want to raid, theyd need to craft another one

[proven jasper]

[subtle tundra]

recrafting has never been a thing i guess

also you can just..

you know

play suboptimal

[foggy juniper]

lol

[subtle tundra]

who cares

[foggy juniper]

recraft = i dont exist

[limber lion]

Literally

Walking out of melee for like 2s

is a bigger loss than any choice of embellishment

[indigo leaf]

did you not read the sentence "they still want to raid"

[mossy sundial]

or just craft your shit for raid now and wait for them to uncap crests then make your m+ 0.1% upgrade embellishment swap

[indigo leaf]

or are you saying they should recraft their piece

every time

[cobalt sphinx]

are you asking about ascendance vs double dawnthread

[stray adder]

[indigo leaf]

they go from m+ to raid

and back

[foggy juniper]

belt + wrist is similar performance than crafted dagger on raid, so yeah, they are fine (:

[indigo leaf]

nah but the 0.1% increase though

apparently they care

so they need the 0.1% in raid as well

[balmy condor]

"looking at their gear" I just went on murlok to look and most of these mfers are barely 630

what are you on

[limber lion]

Lmao

[storm forum]

i got baited to look through raider.io and like half of these peoples' gears are 4/6 H or 3/6 myth

[subtle tundra]

holy kush gear

[mossy sundial]

no casual or speed

fake news

[foggy juniper]

and they dont need the 0.1% on m+? interesting

[balmy condor]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[indigo leaf]

what

[limber lion]

You do not understand how mythic+ works

[balmy condor]

ITS LITERALLY

[limber lion]

It shows

[stray adder]

kush is 635

[balmy condor]

LESS DAMAGE

[stray adder]

fuck

[limber lion]

And you don't understand how upgrading works

[proven jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[limber lion]

Or gear works

Or anything

[nimble tartan]

chat i thought we were trying to keep 2 stacks of envenom the whole time, i downloaded whisprys cute lil bar weakaura

[balmy condor]

yep

[subtle tundra]

blindly follow mr strimmer

[nimble tartan]

sigh im so confused

[subtle tundra]

thats how i do

[limber lion]

Using 15 crests upgrading your pants is a bigger upgrade than spending 90 on a different embellishment

Now imagine you can do that 6 times

[storm forum]

i cannot believe we are letting ourselves get baited like this lmao

[limber lion]

Pretty crazy

[mossy sundial]

whispyr reporting #6 as number #1 no wonder he doesn't understand the difference 0.1% makes

[ebon notch]

oh no

this will get messy

[subtle tundra]

whispyr is not rank 1 rogue so he is bad

btw

[limber lion]

Will?

[ebon notch]

messier

[mossy sundial]

[dusty crescent]

is there a race tierlist for m+?

[limber lion]

walls are painted in shit

[silk bane]

So I see this, and your name says recovered mental… are you sure about that?

[limber lion]

Gnome > everything else

[cobalt sphinx]

dwarf is the only option

[dusty crescent]

like i get it, i know orc is bis but like.. belf is way better for m+ no?

[limber lion]

I mean Dwarf

Not gnome

fuck

[balmy condor]

bro has NO USE FOR CRESTS

[coral ibex]

til 3 crafts is trolling lol fugma

[balmy condor]

RECRAFT GO GO GO

[proven jasper]

He’s still recrafting, needs to get his gilded crest to fix his mental

[spice spire]

Man is queen ansurek pilled rn

[indigo elk]

Dwarf is king for this season

[mossy sundial]

[limber lion]

truetruetrue

[mossy sundial]

At least youre seeing the light now

[dusty crescent]

oh stoneform wild

[stray adder]

Looks like we've got a Wild Avaktsuki on the loose! Beware, folks – this crafty critter is on a quest to stir up some reactions and snag a few unwitting replies! 🕵️‍♂️🪤

[dusty crescent]

yeah that makes sense....

[subtle cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-kind-of-losing-it-stan-marsh-south-park-s16e12-a-nightmare-on-face-time-gif-23195761

[north tartan]

!bugs

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[mossy sundial]

if he crafted wrists with better embellishment he wouldnt spend crests upgrading those ones

[storm forum]

god i love when whispyr loses it

[mossy sundial]

its obvious

[balmy condor]

what will he do

with these crests

nothing left than to recraft embellishments

for a pointless dps gain

[subtle cipher]

craft a cloak

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-definitely-lost-it-stan-marsh-south-park-hes-gone-psycho-hes-crazy-gif-22243952

[balmy condor]

that's within margin

good heavens

are the guides wrong?

[limber lion]

good heavens indeed

[stray adder]

from Mentally Illinois confirmed

[subtle cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-oh-yeah-insane-gif-3571476595804301266

[balmy condor]

just when I think it's fine

[subtle tundra]

good heavens youre within margin

[balmy condor]

I read the dumbest shit I've seen all week

[subtle cipher]

its never fine

and its only monday

gl

[static glacier]

papa, is fatebound justified on court or is it troll

[balmy condor]

on court?

[static glacier]

ye

[balmy condor]

that sounds troll

[static glacier]

silken court m

[balmy condor]

deathstalker is way better on 2 target

[limber lion]

Fails playing the mark

So swaps hero talents

[static glacier]

lmao

[balmy condor]

I mean reasonable

[limber lion]

[balmy condor]

but probably not whats happening

[glossy light]

Is worth spreading dots the whole duration of subterfuge (if enough targets) ? just in theory

[limber lion]

We had this exact same discussion with Mo and someone else the other day

[glossy light]

or just 5 rupture for agility bonus and go to bursting?

[limber lion]

And that was the reason

[drowsy hatch]

nah 5 ruptures is plenty, the dmg isnt much. You wanna get splattering sooner

[limber lion]

Nah

[balmy condor]

this

[glossy light]

thanks

[drowsy hatch]

nice to iron wire stuff during the window though

if you need to

[limber lion]

but we're not playing iron wire

remember

:----)

[glossy light]

Im just trying out builds, now im not playing iron wire

[stray adder]

big dam > IW

[glossy light]

but i hate to not play it

[drowsy hatch]

oh dear

[stray adder]

feelycrafter btw

[storm forum]

[drowsy hatch]

no iron wire brainrot is real

[proven jasper]

shut it down

[storm forum]

what dungeon doesnt have casters?

[glossy light]

idk what to replace to play iron wire

[subtle cipher]

depends on the dung tbh

some are fine

[balmy condor]

literally anything

[limber lion]

Sang

[drowsy hatch]

yeah I mean prob dont need on mists

[subtle cipher]

neither on ara

[storm forum]

I would legit talent out of a capstone for iron wire

[drowsy hatch]

but at the same time

I dont want to encourage non iron wire usage

[static glacier]

mark has been fine so far

[glossy light]

okay SB out

[drowsy hatch]

even if its ok on a certain dungeon

[static glacier]

just wondering while im early in prog

[indigo leaf]

brb replacing death mark with iron wire

[storm forum]

like iron wire > KB/10% bleed dam

[static glacier]

if the other tree might be better

[subtle cipher]

no iron wire on gb

lets see it

[glossy light]

yeah i played 2x +12 without iron wire and i feel naked

it feels weird

[balmy condor]

honestly sure

wouldn't be much worse than without a trace last patch

[indigo leaf]

[balmy condor]

and people ran that

[unborn wharf]

idk about you guys but if the target count is lowish like 5 target count im just spamming shrouded suffication garrote as builder over fan of knives for perma silence during subterfuge.

based or cooked?

[balmy condor]

burnt

[unborn wharf]

💀

[indigo leaf]

cooked

[balmy condor]

to a crisp

nothing but ash

[static glacier]

u can fit a few fok between silences even

[storm forum]

i mean, not the literal worst thing ive ever heard of

could be throw knife

[unborn wharf]

my utility gain is off the charts

[balmy condor]

it's pretty fucking bad lmao

[unborn wharf]

😎