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I mean it's pretty hard yeah
to get below 30
damn i must be the goat then
what you mean by CR? combat rez?
ik its basically dead but
so lethality is getting fixed? so what i understand is that WaT got buffed?
i stil press s&D 
yep
i see i see
i mean you can slightly space them
outside of cds u still wont run out of energy tho? i swear i mustve been doin something worng
yea its fine to take subt
so you arent just sendin envs at full 2 stack
how do u take 2 points th0
1/2 lethality
is it rlly worth -1 lethality
just trying to upkeep both stacks i assume
crazi
i was using LE's tracker but
seperate convo
i dont like bars
ok but
i think the 2/2 subt build sims better in dslice but maybe not, i just like the extended duration
how bad is fatebound now that play MA
my brain is cooked and likes a number countdown
I'll have an icon version soon
1/2 vs 2/2 lethality isn't going to brick any key im doing
do u have one rn cuz im in that boat too
baraphobic players man
i use zac's but
no
he's grieving his 30 second pre pulls
Top dps on psp, +10 NW

Joystick gaming
what about an ironfur-like bar with separate sparks for each buff
it should be illegal to post phone pics of screens
Brother, call me personally and I will teach you hot to screenshot
to press win shift s
last time you did this you said oh it was my brother

where do you live i can come and teach you in person
I'll have an icon version out soon, also if you think it's off be sure you have the latest versions, I've made several updates for accuracy and will have another one out soon
nah i just got a migraine looking at your game
-200k dps
I mean a little yeah
@spice spire u gotta do what u gotta do to get ur weeklies done, +10 NW
is that a steam deck
respect the grind
Rog ally
@slate crown is something like this possible or is the env buff just too weird
every time you press the screen you have a chance to either send a whisper, cast a spell or open the quest log
NAH MAN YOURE PLAYING ON A CONSOLE
Ya
I'm sure it's possible
whats your ign

so i can block you
tompelvis
Tompelvis
in that case do u pool back up
no
sheesh what a spec we are
the rule is:
- if you can be fucked for 0.18%, never drop below 30 when out of cooldowns
and
uh
legit that's it
U dont have to block me, wont play psp again next friday
blocked
dont play by the rules 
but surely.. fatebound is better than deathstalker now with this 74% crit I have..
surely
fatebound slams in raid yeh
74% crit?
I need you to seek help buddy
49% + MA
youre like that guy that asked why his crit is so low this season, he said he had 78% at the end of DF
bro go to bed what are you doin
Ngl I'm a bit burnt out on WA stuff so I probably won't add something for this any time soon, the bar aura itself has a lot of the scaffolding and frameworks to support it especially the newer version I'm working on where I made further structuring improvements, but it would still take work
Might try a splatter WA later, any one that has it
I don't know you're right I should go to bed
aruaghh
Ur mom bud
good for her tbh
how tf do you have 49% crit
im just saying thats how you'd get there
lie to my face
she deserves a respectable man like you laying the pipe quake
can get that high with procs
with procs ๐

hell nah this mf is UNMOGGED
yea im getting brain cancer
in the RAID GEAR
brother who asked
What the hell is going on
i wish i had the transmog mount
dude is afking on dummies with his character screen open for the number porn
not even chaining for pandemic timer?, all the tiem I spent being a good sin rogue watching @balmy condor5793 youtube videos are all gone
which dude
mfer you
bro im waiting for my 500th grim batol to fill
ill see about trying to bridge the gap, thanks for your hard work 
ngl
bro im waiting for my ass to fill
Oh
the set this raid is kind of clean
game is dead at 7am
Yikes
okay so when I say that the only rule is the tea thing, whats confusing about that
Bro itโs 7 in the morning on a weekend
yea i have to lock in morning gym soon
so i can play in the afternoon

i just go back to this normally
that was just troll i wanted to shoutout the youtube didnt realize it @ 
I was wondering why them boots had such a crazy sole, its the ilvl of the weapons ..
oh I see
yah
spec is cooked a lil
got the m639 yeezies
wow they're nerfing MA
of the current tier
fucking cucks
cant wait to have it all in 6 years.
yeah massive nerf, B-
I have this black mog ready to go
no
bro LMFAO
i cant believe you made me look at that
guys where is this hat from i dont like it
is it worth it though.
its not on mychracter
profession equipmet prob
this is the hat i should have
that would probably do it ill fix that up now
I love me some albino gecko love making
It's still kinda smart to watch the auto proc on raid fights like rash where he flies away right? It proccing right as he flies has to be bad right?
can i disable hat
yes
no
there is a npc in dragonflight
Is supterfuge now the play for high m+? Saw the top rogues using it + twist the knife
yeh it's good now
idk i've considered making my warrior a dragon
how do u even get enough points for twist
pins
why did they turn headless horseman into a raid boss
Ye just wondering cause its not in stabdard wowhead m+ Build
This singlehandedly saved my weekend, no more ugly enchanter dress
Thx tho โค๏ธ

idk doing horseman on alts for the harvest golem set
it's not the standard build cause this week has been a lot of testing and we aren't entirely sure if it's better or not
probably update tomorrow
Aye i see ๐ซก
standard build is still fine
just many many options
for how to talent
there's like no less than 9 or 10 variations
u dont play sudden demise? crazi
low key i fucking hate that spatter is so strong we fucking vanish for MA and not bleeding
i hate this game
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
is it not implemented for m+?
wdym is it not implemented
well for aoe you're spreading bleeds obviously ya dingus
idk casualaddict was telling otherwise
he was also simming 1t 5t 10t instead of dslice
but he is mr rank1 assa so he must be right
all i know is that i can play WaT on reset and lose even less
how can i talk to blizzard to fix my game this is getting annoying
when did assa become a battery anyway
what
i got DC'd in a key yesterday
true
dont try the support
wtf is a supercharger
Just returning to wow and crafted my mh dagger today. Should I craft oh next or wrist/belt
wrist belt
offhand is insignificant
Good to know tyty
can someone please explain me what this amcro is doing?
preventing u from using tea for 5 sec a second time
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
when u press shiv is consumes 1 tea charge,not more if u are spamming the macro
sorry i cant see im wathcing the parkour in the corner
can u see anything of the game anyways?
man its doing its job too well
gotcha. do u use tea with KB or with shiv (8 secs into KB)?
you just made a mouse macro that opens up your character panel
thats only on the recording ๐
ild do you 
nah i hold the keyboard button
my game is bugged
or smth
when i hold keyboard button its as if i press it repeatedly
the fact they nerfed dracthyr utilities for non-evoker dracthyr is so cringe
i mean drac doesnt provide anything
I will never give up SM
i guess you can negate ansurek yoinks
do u use tea at start of KB or with shiv (8 secs into KB)?
its much cringier to actually be a dracthyr in general
quick question from a MASSIVE Rogue beginner , is it worth to make a use both cds macro like kingsbane and Deathmark ?
so if i press W, A, D for 10 seconds i get disconnected
on a scale of 1 to 10, how cringe we talking? pun intended
then dont
dracthyr are kinda cute


the biggest downside is you cant mog people from your character page
Ngl I like my dracthyr rogue
You can't. They both use the GCD.
since you show as a dragon
yeah but doublepress off gcd will work right ? i just want to make it one hotkey
if u are specced into a 2nd shiv stack u cover the entire KB,that includes pressing shiv before pressing kb and the last 6 seconds of KB u repress.If u have only 1 shiv u press sub 8seconds of KB to cover last ticks
and i want to be able to press my movement buttons without getting disconnected
I think it would be very unwise to macro dm and kb
But but but I have no friends to blast with ๐ฆ

That's not a drac
make some friends
ok ty
That's the grinch
Can you write a guide for that please?
dragonscaled cringe 
to explain more, you want to shiv between dm and kb anyways if you have 2 ( in st)
Is raidbots supporting friends builds? ๐ฎ
so youd have to macro all 3... plus any trinkets you might get.
3 strikes and ur out
stuff from nightmares
watching u buddy
chat, is this real life?
Tbh I want more monstrous playable races. Like a spider race
the hunter is nothing without the chase
i will go hunt.... some io in another dungeon besides gb
kinda irrelevant but MA nerf on reset is 
what
Didn't they just buff it too
25% to 20%
well they "nerfed" it
cause it was 30%
but it still had the old 3 second timer
cause for some reason they didn't give it the 6 second treatment that the rest of the stealth effects got
so they made it 6 and 25
but with subterfuge extending, and the duration change
i mean the crit chance not the duration man 
we essentially when from 30% for 3 seconds to 25% for TWELVE seconds
oh so we are buffed
yeah true
yeah kinda compensate
cause the durations are all standardized across the stealth effects
so idk what's sus about it
but yeh
fear of getting more nerfs type of thang
I hate suffering from success as a spec
do i use algari oil or these kobold boogers?
neither
whetstone
we arent all made of money
whetest of stone
whetstones are like 400g each right?
use one booger
and oil isn't?
if youre poor use boogers then
just use boogers if you have no gold yeah
its like 0.5% of your damage
iunno lemme get on my brutosaur and check 
god I wish I was stone
uwu
HUH
whispyr, sometimes shiv flashes on your ui. what is that? is it when shiv comes off cd?
it's not during kb
ye
Oh im an idiot i wanted to ask something regarding the tea macro, what exactly does the castsequence reset=5 mean? Is it blocking the input until 5 different i outs have been made or hows it working, cause i thought i could do the same for feint but didnt want to blatantly smack some jibberish i dont understand in there eventually leading to feint not working when i'd need it

it's blocking you from using another tea for 5 seconds
to prevent you from full mongo mashing
since tea is off gcd
also the 5 sec timer resets every time you press the macro, so if u keep pressing it on after 4 sec it will never let u tea again
So number equals seconds and thats all? So i can just mash that in front of feint aswell 
you slam your shiv
Its not a big nerf I guess
and it's like whatever
cause it blocks you
and by the next time you mash
it'll be back
I mean I guess yeah
does mashing = more dps
no but I need to do something
are you mashing or it the 9 monsters you have every day
Thank you plenty mucho
I've been mashing since I was like 7
exactly
!feint
wasn't there a feint macro command too
hello guys
have a quick question
i didint see any hotfix on leathality
can someone explain what was the hotfix?
check the hotfixes
aka not double dipping
ty ty
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has there been a list posted about any relevant timewalking gear to get from tokens
pins don't mention anything
What is the best thing to do while you wait 5 mins once you apply to 5 dungeons ?
I'm gearing a new rogue
I doubt anyone has gone through that effort
masturb-
!macro
what to do for the next 4 min 40 secs?
post nut clarity
hit the training dummies
contempelation on why i came back to wow?
sorry if this explained somehwere already but i originally crafted dagger, belt and wrists with dawn thread on belt and wrists. im about to recraft dagger to 636, do i have the option to swap to ascension?
all the timewalking anniversary stuff is roughly equal to war within stuff at equal item level
or it's strictly worse
so like if you have some dogshit ilvl slot that you need to badly upgrade
go for it
otherwise it's whatever
you don't have to swap and recraft stuff
it's either double dawnthread, or it's ascension+writhing band
they're pretty much equal everywhere
so if you have 2 dawnthread
just stick with that and don't bother
my rogue is 570
:^)
any recommendations
or something
no
F
not sure how the token gear works
kinda wanna grab hand of justice on the offchance its good
token exchanges up to hero track gear
banger
but I don't know where the catch is
but how do you get the tokens
you can buy lfr and normal track
24 is the free runed crests
enchanted
not sure if korrak's revenge triggers the pvp crafting quest
that can get you a 610 crafted wep
for no sparks
Is anyone doing the macro for shiv and thistle tea?
my thistle tea is auto drinking at below 30
it does that yeah
do I take that off
I assume its just /cast shiv /cast thistle tea?
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
40th run of grim and didnt see skardyns ones

yep
๐ฎโ๐จ
how do i queue for this
pvp brawl
I just dipped after I got the 500 honor
korakks takes like 30min or even more with clueless groups
you need to win a game generally for quest to trigger
got it on my warrior since got ashran
and team insta rushed boss
and won
Did my first +10 run yesterday and got skardyns xd
if I wasn't of strong recovered mental
you would be getting a ban in your inbox
but I am reformed
I feel nothing but elation for your success
oh he's PISSED
already have the win but there's a quest from korrok
Were the bug fixes huge dps loss for us?
Haha i checked right after i sent it sry
yeah thats a different quest
the pvp quest thing that gives heraldries is just nice to make 2-3 610 items
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fastest way to gear is prob to chill in warmode collecting crates for conq
then buy marks and craft all 610
Just Q rated arena
if youre alliance and not on rp servers, you can do warmode in old xpac zones where its dead. not fun though
youre right deev, i guess i meant lowest effort
crates give 60 conq per zone per day
any fatebound builds competitive in m+?
or if you kill people who are marked bounties you get like 50-60 from their bounty bag
Surely having capunlocks on a character makes gearing on alts super fast
i got 2 vicious bloodstones on my alt
because the pvp wq was a warzone that day
from 2 bounties in like 5 minutes
dps wise yes its the same (more rng tho) problem is defensive wise fatebound is way worse
nop
is it not aanymore?
Fatebound raid build is still the easy mode build from ur wowhead entry whispyr?
fatebound kinda dookie in aoe compared to deathstalker
fatebound in raid though
pretty good
ha y true no funnel
but fatebound has very little in terms of aoe
yeah was slamming fatebound in raid was fun asf
thats not the reason though
it just does less dmg in aoe
you still need the crests
clear the witnesses? momentum of despair? big envenom buff? the mark and everything caustic and better defensives and funnel and
holy
like
doesnt make it free
you kinda want LESS funnel tbh
it's just more damage, more everything
I mean then fatebounds your guy
it's worse overall but the damage is real spread
fatebound in aoe is just awful yea
fucking wow toke plummeted
it peaked at 350k
270k on eu is literally same price before bruto
yea bro im not NA
Saw it yesterday at like 400k o.O
real money wins again
ohhh
sorry had to check
yes
Is the new thistle tea considered a dps loss if you go under 30 energy?
"Addressed an issue with the interaction between Deathstalker's Mark and Supercharged combo points." Does this mean 5cp with supercharge procs Deathstalkers mark?
im pretty sure its cause people saw token skyrocket and bought tokens to sell for gold
i rergret not buying out a bunch of tokens at 200k each
and then converting back to sell them at 350
letting auto tea go is an extremely minor loss compared to perfect teas
woulda made profit even with the $5 loss per token
is it $5?
its 7 euros for me
for usd yes
and euro > dollar
20 usd to buy a token, 15 when using one
wtf
yes
yes it is
150/200 is 75% profit good sir
for NA at least
varas u dont use sbs in keys?
no
look at it this way. if you buy 4 tokens at 200k, you spend 800k. you can get 3 tokens back, and selling them for 350 gives you 1050k
thats 250k profit from 800k
that is a little more than 25% profit per token
sbs kinda mid
it feels good though
so if youre a feel gamer, go ahead
play it
yeah it does feel good haha
gotta bare in mind its also helping your lethal dose though
thank you @balmy condor
np friend
and why do u use 2 points sub vs 2 points lethality? im just gonna copy your build
Longer master assasin window
if i bought 1 token for 200k and sold it for 350k, that means i earned 150k, which is 75% of the original token price
k im swapping. ty
when you redeem a token, you only get 15 bnet balance
was lethality hotfixed or is it wednesday patch?
but it costs you 20 to buy one
I think lethality was hotfixed
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yeah go for it
slam it bro wat all day
bro this rant is amazing, completely what i was feeling and now i feel at ease
if you do vanish for MA only, then wat doesnt really have a place
but if you use vanish for spreading bleeds when they run out, wat is good
how would i send my cd's here
that photo is an example pretend ur on last platform in siege and wanna send cd's on tentable
tentacle
do i vanish garrtote mut mut evenom
you'd probably vanish ambush gar rup dm kb mut mut env
cause its running out in 10 sec
gonna fall off yeh
10 sec is magic numbner?
no its based on logic
there is no magic number
it's just like you could mut mut env and then sit there without any bleeds and no cooldowns and gg you used your darkest night
that's cool
but also like
you could've just ambushed
and gotten the mark
and who cares
ya know
on stitchflesh i remove my darkest night before the fight starts and i ambush on the first guy
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and by the time the hook goes off, i get darkest night up
yeh that's a reasonable move
what's wrong with vanish garrote mut mute envenom dm kings tea mut fan rupture ?
Guys when we have one charge of ship do we use it on the last 8 seconds of kingsbane?
rupture that late gives cancer
late ass rupture
you DONT want cancer
yes
tried and tested
yeah tail end
3 GCDs of deathmark ticking without a rupture
o right that's bad
Transmitter gives me so much dmg
Do you think changing poison duration in code to 12hrs from 1h would create 9000 other bugs?

Bursting for like 2.2mil and steady at 1.4mil on ST
skardyns crystal is my love 
I have mythic spyglass and heroic transmitter rn
Was able to get rid of heroic blood dagger for a heroic regicide which was nice
yes a trinket to give you dmg in your cds is really good
that has been the case for like a decade
maybe more!
i always feel energy deprived with ttk+ma+subt build
Question about aoe outside of CDs , if an extra pack is pulled in before you can get stealth up , and assume vanish is on CD..
Am I spamming 7 point crimson tempest (and fok) or is there no benefit doing so
Like do I fok>fok> crimson then just regular single target a prio mob ? Bleeds and such or kinda lost when this situation happens whatโs best
especially in singletarget
you never want to spam crimson tempest ever
Is it better to use Transmitter off CD and line it up for the 6minute and get 4 uses out of it total, or hold for 30 seconds each time to get it on our Mark?
Sure but I mean like . Do I just put it up
you just gotta get gar/rup up
you treat it like a 2min
Just tab targeting bleeds then ?
yep
Kk
What if you need to hit another pack of adds with it that came into the pile
Will the overlap be a big dps lost
but more on ST with TTK outside of cds am i supposed to keep the envenom buff at 2 stacks or just go back to 1 stack?
no
Figure pandemic will kinda soften the energy blow
fatebound feels better in raid ST? would you recommend it?
as long as you don't waste uptime you're good to go
keep 2 up as much as possible, if you cant do 2 then do 1. 1 should be plus energy
it's good yeah
can play it if you'd like
Iโve been activating it at like a minute and 45 and just finishing transmitter mission late
So it goes into mark
yea sure
Im struggling to keep energy up during single target in m+. Do I just need to cast mutilate slower, or is it better get combo for envenom?
Slower yeah
ST in M+ is really lackluster but things get better when orbs get dispelled
And we get that 20% haste
i thought we were supposed to envenom before dm? why is this situation acceptable to envenom after death mark?
Any splatter WA? I donโt use any and wanna start using some as people here have recommended it
Still on the aoe subject when stray packs come in , just using fok to combo point Gen > tab rupture , garrote when I can , then mute for spatter once in a while ? (While keeping crimson up ?) lol
then you get into a 12 and suddenly theres no affix
I also use fan of knives on orbs to insta max combo pointsโoh yeah
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12 all bets are off
you gotta vanish to get stuff up and get your energy rolling and get into the pull, master assassin is ticking, mob needs to die, no time to waste
luxthos weak aura package has one built in
yep
any WA package should have it
Can I no longer be a new member
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
I think that's just the default member role cause of how onboarding works
to avoid bots and shit
How many other WAs does it add, Iโd rather add them in increments as I find it hard just starting with an entire package
so I just read the pinned post and Whispyr wants to make us believe everything stays the same while it changes. I smell a conspiracy here. I don't trust this hmm.
Oh yeah
yeah I don't trust that guy either

it's the whole ui if u want a single one there are some on wagio I used to use one before i got luxthos
Did these new bug fixes reduce our throughput significantly btw?
Ah alright
Sorry if asked
Cheers
Cause atm I donโt use any WAs minus a clear the scene (or whatever itโs called) one and before I step into 12 keys I might wanna get some other WAs
I just started bloodbound prog btw on mythic, should I just be rupturing all the guys in the pile then teleporting to the solo add to help kill?
While slowing adds
Small adds
There's no way to guarantee the 7 coinflips in fatebound opener right? You can get up to 6 and the last one is chance?
Envenom from stealth opener = 2
Deathmark = 3 (+1 for the other)
Envenom cold blood = 4
Vanish Envenom cold blood = 6
Or am I missing something?
correct
your rupture will give 2
and then you have to hit the 50/50 on the envenom after that
if you hit the 50/50 and go to 3
you guarantee 7
u could ask to be the assassin guy and go to the far add with shiv/kings/tea and caustic splatter off that add to the small adds
Iโve just been doing that as needed
But the first rupture doesn't give a coin: garotte + mutilate doesn't add to 5 combo points in the single target build
Is rupturing the other adds first wrong though
just do it solo lol don't let anyone come take ur dps
I feel like dps is better along with energy regen
Ah nvm, with deal fate it can get up to 5 i guess
If I rupture the others first
the first rupture will give 2 coins
Then just funnel into far add
it's your first finisher from stealth
Yeah but the finisher has to consume 5 or more combo points
in order to get a coin
New nerf pretty irrelevant right?
Dunno, for some reason I figured with the opener you wanted to avoid rupture to give you a coin, but the first envenom to give you the first coin instead, because you'd start activating mean streak, but ye that's also not relevant because inevitable end is procced on the next 2 envenoms
SO i thought the garotte + muti + rupture was on purpose to avoid getting 5 combo points
Check pins
Ok, but now I get the comment how fatebound is "very rng" because it's 50/50 to hit the capstone 7% agi
well not only
you want the dmg increase in your cds
and the direct dmg outside of cds
for most optimal result
How much overall can you pull on your avg grim 8-10 run
im kinda stuck
at like 1,7
like 1.7-1.9
grim is a small pull dungeon
when packs die too fast
ambush, double garrote into rupture into mutilate into fan into crimson and then pack is dead
ye
what is a possible quicker way to bomb a group w 5 targets
gotta do bigger keys
ofc

Yeah get rupture out quickly if itโs gonna die fast but youโre just gimped
@balmy condor , can i have a question about your WA package? I love it, but the recent update killed something.
hm
any good subterfuge builds? for m+
I geuss it's also not worth intentially keeping that first rupture under 5 combo points, so that you can delay the 7d coin RNG to the end with an extra envenom, which gives 33% higher odds of hitting it because of meanstreak? Sorry to reiterate on this
guess I need to settle down on minmaxing keys below 10 
did you move stuff around
This only happens if im on mount, but the envenom tracker position overlaps everytime
the hybrid build on wowhead feels quite good
yes, i moved out DM and KB, but before envenom tracekr it didnt cause any problem
not much I can do about that
the envenom tracker is it's own group
so it's just doomed
the solution is move it to fit your layout
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That one doesn't run subterfuge though no
i did that, but for some reason when i mount it just get this janky ๐
when you unmount it's good?
ye It wasnt the hybrid
this one
This is when im unmount, i placed there manually. As you see there is nothing behind it as well
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It feels weird not picking up master assassin with 2 points in subterfuge, I guess it'rs just impossible to move any of the other talent points?
I play it with 1 point in sub and two in ma
That's lethality you're talking about
Woops xd
but when i mount why CT fade from the bar? ๐
uhh what is "ma" I'm new to sin
I meant lethality xd
oh
thats what i say when i need new hot pockets
I thought like, master assasin xd
cause it's set to that from the load conditiosn
im missing MA Rotation :/
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Wait so is lethality useless now if it was bugged ?
Gm is assa dead ?
Yes
no
Jk
it's just slightly worse
Same icon xD
What's popular m+ build rn?
And big L on longer twist knife
aaaah okay! I fixed now, thanks! ๐ For some reason i didnt think to check this since it was part of the group. Thank you very much for the help!
np
This one looks interesting
Felt sรฅ cringe without bonespike
either of these tbh
have been making the rounds
people dropping bone spike for some reason
Yeah i saw that from casualaddict
Yeah dropping bonespike feels bad, but the damage feels nuts with master assassin
I donโt get the bonespike tech but ok
I got a bone to pick with whoever did that build
Hmmm so garrote garrote rupture fan rupture fan tempest then?
ooh u like numbing over atrophic?
Get this garbage outta here
Tru and real
I sim higher with it but didnt rly try it in dungeons
isnt the build on the right hand side for higher keys tho? since it needs ramp up time?
you need to spread the without a trace variation, we still didnt have our "SEE WE TOLD YOU WHISPYR" moment
m+ builds are so conflicting. taking out bone spike feels bad, taking out sudden demise feels bad but MA and TTK seem so good ๐ญ
sure idk
Feels like we have to be lvl 81 to hit the sweet spot in talents, can't take anything out
i genuinely like without a trace for pugging
I mean yeah, good balance in the tree
Ikr fucked if you do fucked if u donโt
its overall pretty valid for flexibility and 1x lethality isnt a real diff anyways
2nd vanish charge makes super weird chainpulls fairly managable
without losing it for cds
oh ya definitely, good balance between good convenient feel good talents and big number talents. i think its well designed in this regard but that makes the choice so much moren painful
Tbh with the lethal bug fix ima just go WaT tech
so you mean the marginal impact of the bugfix was somehow big enough to change builds for you? 
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The whole allure was Kingsbane double dipping
Which one of em do you like the best? Pros and cons if possible?๐ฅถ
it was pretty minor either way
Let's just drop iron wire so we can fit in master assassin without losing bonespike or sudden demise and agree to never tell our m+ parties that we're griefing them for damage
Do you like sbs?
Hi guys
If so play the sbs one
Is Notter's Kingsbane tracker still something usable atm?
I love it๐คฃ
This is diabolical i like it
tfw next 4 casts are all focussed on you with your party not kicking first 5s into pull due to muscle memory of them being silenced 
Only 4% of players are rogues, there is no muscle memory to begin with
True and real
and barely half of those get invited to keys
Is Notter's Kingsbane tracker still something usable atm?
If my tanks chainpull with 1 mob at 10% health 99% of the time, i'm betting that none of them even know of the existence of iron wire

even better that some rogues argue that it's fine to play like that
It feels shit but what can u do
bitch about it in the class discord
Hahah
o shit that sounded so highly targetted
No, saying that the fuckwit Auya from Bleeding Hollow says that, would be targetted.
in some situations, you can stay behind and hit the mob and when it dies you can re-stealth even if they chain pulled
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Ye I know, but it doesn't feel great
You gotta do what you gotta do
true, but it feels even worse having to bleed a whole pack without carnage
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I do this, and luckily my mates know I do this so they usually stay behind and do it with me. Tanks be damned.
Me staying begin to kill the one low health mob while the rest of the party continues to AOE the next chain pull
It is a nice racial. But when you pvp, meld is too good
I could make nelf work perhaps
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"You would also need to vanish the last stack of your cold blood to double edge case (this is old rotation, just as a reminder)"
How does vanish interact with edge case?
if you have cold blood/inevitable end up
it'll match edge case
so the combo is always deathmark -> cold blood(2) -> finish (cold blood 1) -> vanish -> finish
tell it to casualaddict xd
i also heared that his hairline is awesome and just gets better with every single m+ score increase
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LE's Group
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Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
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Is there a way to show +3 cp in cp wa when supercharger is up๏ผ
I very rarely don't get chance to restealth, even when chaining. Granted I'm only doing 11s, but you can hang back a touch on the last nob and usually get restealth....but if you can't it really doesn't make too much difference. Mouseover bleeds ftw
Heh, mob not nob
with a proper chain you inevitably wont be able to restealth
so that kinda doesnt make sense
Bro this community is so cancer, a dk used abomination limb on the last boss of ara kara on a +11 killed everybody, was told to take care, use it again, key broke and he said "get rekt" ppl like this remind me why I gave up wow one for so many years /rant
is tea shiv macro only for supercharger
well average weekly key behaviour
I'm sure there's a way somehow but there's no reason to track it so idk
Literally thought keys above 10 would have less trolls
you're telling me there's people with social problems
no like 10 and 11 are still weekly keys
what changed it to that then out of curiosity
on world of warcraft
Time to stay on 13+ ig
Like its 2cp but you could envenom
potentially might help
Most 10s are with people that do those keys for score,if they struggle to do 10s they can't be very good
MA/dashing
Yes I'm elitist

yeah you definitely could
but you shouldn't
or at least it doesn't matter
hu, my average weekly 10 rio is like 2.7k









