#assassination

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low junco
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lets calm i didnt explain a lot

balmy condor
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I mean it's pretty hard yeah

waxen oyster
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to get below 30

arctic tusk
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damn i must be the goat then

balmy condor
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regardless you'll always have 1 charge for kb

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just from cooldowns

arctic tusk
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ye

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so what exactly is the pooling logic outside of cds atm

stray adder
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what you mean by CR? combat rez?

arctic tusk
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ik its basically dead but

low junco
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my IMMERSION from pressing snd is deadge

arctic tusk
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basically doesnt mean fully

subtle tundra
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so lethality is getting fixed? so what i understand is that WaT got buffed?

drifting lance
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i stil press s&D OkayGa

balmy condor
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it's 0.18% to avoid auto proccing tea

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and that's it

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that's the whole logic

arctic tusk
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o

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so are you just sending envenoms down the bosses throat

balmy condor
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yep

arctic tusk
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no thought of energy in the wrold

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world

balmy condor
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that's what happens

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when assa is fast

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like this

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it's fucked

arctic tusk
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i see i see

drifting lance
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do u take 2 point of subterfuge

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or can

waxen oyster
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i mean you can slightly space them

arctic tusk
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outside of cds u still wont run out of energy tho? i swear i mustve been doin something worng

coral ibex
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yea its fine to take subt

waxen oyster
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so you arent just sendin envs at full 2 stack

drifting lance
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how do u take 2 points th0

coral ibex
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1/2 lethality

drifting lance
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is it rlly worth -1 lethality

arctic tusk
drifting lance
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crazi

waxen oyster
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also w're talking raid build

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which doesnt play subter

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๐Ÿ’€

arctic tusk
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i was using LE's tracker but

drifting lance
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seperate convo

arctic tusk
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it felt a little wrong

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unless i misunderstood it

waxen oyster
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i dont like bars

drifting lance
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ok but

coral ibex
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i think the 2/2 subt build sims better in dslice but maybe not, i just like the extended duration

drifting lance
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how bad is fatebound now that play MA

waxen oyster
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my brain is cooked and likes a number countdown

slate crown
coral ibex
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1/2 vs 2/2 lethality isn't going to brick any key im doing

waxen oyster
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oh

arctic tusk
drifting lance
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baraphobic players man

arctic tusk
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i use zac's but

waxen oyster
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no

arctic tusk
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he's grieving his 30 second pre pulls

winged sun
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Top dps on psp, +10 NW

waxen oyster
winged sun
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Joystick gaming

coral ibex
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what about an ironfur-like bar with separate sparks for each buff

drifting lance
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aint no way

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u took a pic

subtle tundra
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fucking get a keyboard

coral ibex
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it should be illegal to post phone pics of screens

serene solar
subtle tundra
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to press win shift s

coral ibex
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last time you did this you said oh it was my brother

stray adder
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crazy ui my guy

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love all the shit overlapping each other

winged sun
subtle tundra
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where do you live i can come and teach you in person

slate crown
drifting lance
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i think that picture is rage-bait honestly

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ignore it

subtle tundra
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-200k dps

winged sun
waxen oyster
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is that a steam deck

serene solar
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Wait, PsP are you playing on this thing?

low junco
winged sun
coral ibex
stray adder
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every time you press the screen you have a chance to either send a whisper, cast a spell or open the quest log

subtle tundra
winged sun
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Ya

subtle tundra
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whats your ign

winged sun
subtle tundra
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so i can block you

waxen oyster
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tompelvis

winged sun
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Tompelvis

arctic tusk
subtle tundra
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Zeross

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what server

balmy condor
arctic tusk
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sheesh what a spec we are

waxen oyster
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im pretty sure i once watched a guy pvp on a ret pally

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on an xbox controller

balmy condor
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the rule is:

  • if you can be fucked for 0.18%, never drop below 30 when out of cooldowns
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and

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uh

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legit that's it

subtle tundra
winged sun
subtle tundra
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blocked

drifting lance
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dont play by the rules NE_Cool

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but surely.. fatebound is better than deathstalker now with this 74% crit I have..

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surely

balmy condor
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fatebound slams in raid yeh

subtle tundra
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74% crit?

spice spire
coral ibex
subtle tundra
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youre like that guy that asked why his crit is so low this season, he said he had 78% at the end of DF

balmy condor
slate crown
warm vortex
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Might try a splatter WA later, any one that has it

slate crown
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aruaghh

spice spire
balmy condor
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good for her tbh

subtle tundra
coral ibex
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i dont

subtle tundra
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ah

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cool

coral ibex
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im just saying thats how you'd get there

drifting lance
subtle tundra
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lie to my face

balmy condor
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she deserves a respectable man like you laying the pipe quake

drifting lance
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can get that high with procs

balmy condor
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with procs ๐Ÿ’€

drifting lance
coral ibex
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hell nah this mf is UNMOGGED

subtle tundra
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yea im getting brain cancer

coral ibex
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in the RAID GEAR

balmy condor
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brother who asked

warm vortex
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What the hell is going on

drifting lance
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wdym

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the raid gear is my mog

subtle tundra
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i wish i had the transmog mount

balmy condor
arctic tusk
drifting lance
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which dude

balmy condor
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mfer you

drifting lance
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bro im waiting for my 500th grim batol to fill

coral ibex
waxen oyster
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ngl

subtle tundra
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bro im waiting for my ass to fill

waxen oyster
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the set this raid is kind of clean

drifting lance
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game is dead at 7am

warm vortex
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Yikes

balmy condor
warm vortex
balmy condor
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that is the only rule

subtle tundra
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so i can play in the afternoon

winged sun
waxen oyster
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i just go back to this normally

arctic tusk
wintry pagoda
# drifting lance

I was wondering why them boots had such a crazy sole, its the ilvl of the weapons ..

balmy condor
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yah

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spec is cooked a lil

drifting lance
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got the m639 yeezies

arctic tusk
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guess ill just macro it to shiv

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and callit a day

waxen oyster
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ngl

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i kinda want the lfr color

coral ibex
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wow they're nerfing MA

waxen oyster
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of the current tier

drifting lance
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yeah

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its dank

coral ibex
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fucking cucks

drifting lance
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cant wait to have it all in 6 years.

stray adder
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yeah massive nerf, B-

coral ibex
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i'm gonna blow up

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patch is now DOOM

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not BOOM

drifting lance
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I have this black mog ready to go

waxen oyster
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someone rate my lizard

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xo

coral ibex
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no

arctic tusk
coral ibex
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i cant believe you made me look at that

stray adder
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also are they having sex

drifting lance
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damn

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that makes me wanna go evoker

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dracythr

subtle tundra
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guys where is this hat from i dont like it

drifting lance
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is it worth it though.

subtle tundra
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its not on mychracter

drifting lance
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profession equipmet prob

subtle tundra
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this is the hat i should have

arctic tusk
stray adder
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I love me some albino gecko love making

serene solar
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It's still kinda smart to watch the auto proc on raid fights like rash where he flies away right? It proccing right as he flies has to be bad right?

subtle tundra
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can i disable hat

drifting lance
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yes

molten flicker
drifting lance
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on this guy

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ok no

stray adder
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there is a npc in dragonflight

drifting lance
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its next to profession shit

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crafting orders

knotty canopy
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Is supterfuge now the play for high m+? Saw the top rogues using it + twist the knife

balmy condor
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yeh it's good now

waxen oyster
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idk i've considered making my warrior a dragon

balmy condor
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the talent actually does something

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it's very sick

drifting lance
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how do u even get enough points for twist

balmy condor
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pins

coral ibex
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-sb -sd +ttk +ma

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or -sbs

stray adder
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why did they turn headless horseman into a raid boss

subtle tundra
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74% crit goat

knotty canopy
wintry pagoda
knotty canopy
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Thx tho โค๏ธ

wintry pagoda
waxen oyster
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idk doing horseman on alts for the harvest golem set

balmy condor
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probably update tomorrow

balmy condor
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standard build is still fine

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just many many options

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for how to talent

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there's like no less than 9 or 10 variations

drifting lance
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u dont play sudden demise? crazi

subtle tundra
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i hate this game

balmy condor
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I mean single target optimization

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for a burst spec

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kinda crazy

dense talon
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
subtle tundra
balmy condor
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wdym is it not implemented

subtle tundra
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for aoe situations

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to vanish the aoe dm

balmy condor
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well for aoe you're spreading bleeds obviously ya dingus

subtle tundra
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idk casualaddict was telling otherwise

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he was also simming 1t 5t 10t instead of dslice

balmy condor
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oh well yeah sure

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if he sims rando ass aoe sims

subtle tundra
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but he is mr rank1 assa so he must be right

balmy condor
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it'll vanish in DM

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I mean it'll vanish for DM regardless cause that's just good

subtle tundra
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all i know is that i can play WaT on reset and lose even less

balmy condor
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but like

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if you have add waves

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why wouldn't you

waxen oyster
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nah go supercharger

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clearly

subtle tundra
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how can i talk to blizzard to fix my game this is getting annoying

drifting lance
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when did assa become a battery anyway

balmy condor
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what

subtle tundra
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i got DC'd in a key yesterday

stray adder
molten flicker
drifting lance
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wtf is a supercharger

regal cape
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Just returning to wow and crafted my mh dagger today. Should I craft oh next or wrist/belt

regal cape
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Good to know tyty

drifting lance
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I actually have 4 blood-kissed kukri's,
2 with aoe 2 with st enchants

waxen oyster
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now get 4 regicides

drifting lance
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lmao

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will be a while

dense talon
drifting lance
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preventing u from using tea for 5 sec a second time

molten flicker
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
molten flicker
subtle tundra
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can anyone else do this

rotund oak
drifting lance
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sorry i cant see im wathcing the parkour in the corner

molten flicker
subtle tundra
dense talon
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gotcha. do u use tea with KB or with shiv (8 secs into KB)?

stray adder
subtle tundra
rotund oak
subtle tundra
drifting lance
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is it worth giving up shadowmeld for dracthyr..

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who went drac and regretted it

subtle tundra
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my game is bugged

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or smth

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when i hold keyboard button its as if i press it repeatedly

stray adder
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the fact they nerfed dracthyr utilities for non-evoker dracthyr is so cringe

waxen oyster
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i mean drac doesnt provide anything

scarlet wyvern
waxen oyster
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i guess you can negate ansurek yoinks

dense talon
rotund oak
inner scroll
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quick question from a MASSIVE Rogue beginner , is it worth to make a use both cds macro like kingsbane and Deathmark ?

subtle tundra
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so if i press W, A, D for 10 seconds i get disconnected

stray adder
molten flicker
drifting lance
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dracthyr are kinda cute

slate crown
drifting lance
waxen oyster
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the biggest downside is you cant mog people from your character page

regal cape
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Ngl I like my dracthyr rogue

shy pecan
waxen oyster
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since you show as a dragon

subtle tundra
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but my game is still bugged

inner scroll
rotund oak
subtle tundra
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and i want to be able to press my movement buttons without getting disconnected

stray adder
drowsy hatch
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I think it would be very unwise to macro dm and kb

jaunty dew
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But but but I have no friends to blast with ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

drifting lance
regal cape
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That's not a drac

balmy condor
regal cape
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That's the grinch

jaunty dew
rotund oak
drowsy hatch
# inner scroll ok ty

to explain more, you want to shiv between dm and kb anyways if you have 2 ( in st)

waxen oyster
jaunty dew
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Is raidbots supporting friends builds? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

drowsy hatch
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so youd have to macro all 3... plus any trinkets you might get.

drifting lance
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3 strikes and ur out

dense talon
drifting lance
ebon prism
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chat, is this real life?

regal cape
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Tbh I want more monstrous playable races. Like a spider race

drifting lance
stray adder
ebon prism
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i will go hunt.... some io in another dungeon besides gb

rotund oak
balmy condor
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what

regal cape
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Didn't they just buff it too

rotund oak
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25% to 20%

balmy condor
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well they "nerfed" it

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cause it was 30%

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but it still had the old 3 second timer

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cause for some reason they didn't give it the 6 second treatment that the rest of the stealth effects got

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so they made it 6 and 25

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but with subterfuge extending, and the duration change

rotund oak
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i mean the crit chance not the duration man starege

balmy condor
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we essentially when from 30% for 3 seconds to 25% for TWELVE seconds

ebon prism
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oh so we are buffed

rotund oak
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yeah true

balmy condor
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which is obviously way too strong

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so now they need to put the % down to 20

drowsy hatch
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we're still better than before the patch

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its just tamped down

rotund oak
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yeah kinda compensate

balmy condor
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cause the durations are all standardized across the stealth effects

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so idk what's sus about it

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but yeh

drifting lance
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dont be reasonable

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doompost instead

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rogue is dead man

drowsy hatch
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I mean if MA really gets that bad

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The old build is untouched

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soo

rotund oak
regal cape
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I hate suffering from success as a spec

ebon prism
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do i use algari oil or these kobold boogers?

balmy condor
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neither

drowsy hatch
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whetstone

ebon prism
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we arent all made of money

balmy condor
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whetest of stone

ebon prism
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whetstones are like 400g each right?

waxen oyster
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use one booger

balmy condor
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and oil isn't?

drowsy hatch
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if youre poor use boogers then

balmy condor
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just use boogers if you have no gold yeah

waxen oyster
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its like 0.5% of your damage

ebon prism
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iunno lemme get on my brutosaur and check kekdog

drowsy hatch
ebon prism
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uwu

balmy condor
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HUH

ebon prism
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whispyr, sometimes shiv flashes on your ui. what is that? is it when shiv comes off cd?

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it's not during kb

balmy condor
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ye

wintry pagoda
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Oh im an idiot i wanted to ask something regarding the tea macro, what exactly does the castsequence reset=5 mean? Is it blocking the input until 5 different i outs have been made or hows it working, cause i thought i could do the same for feint but didnt want to blatantly smack some jibberish i dont understand in there eventually leading to feint not working when i'd need it

balmy condor
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it's blocking you from using another tea for 5 seconds

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to prevent you from full mongo mashing

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since tea is off gcd

molten flicker
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also the 5 sec timer resets every time you press the macro, so if u keep pressing it on after 4 sec it will never let u tea again

balmy condor
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yeh

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the idea is that if you're a button masher like me

wintry pagoda
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So number equals seconds and thats all? So i can just mash that in front of feint aswell SmugPeepo

balmy condor
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you slam your shiv

faint path
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Its not a big nerf I guess

balmy condor
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and it's like whatever

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cause it blocks you

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and by the next time you mash

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it'll be back

stray adder
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does mashing = more dps

balmy condor
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no but I need to do something

stray adder
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are you mashing or it the 9 monsters you have every day

wintry pagoda
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Thank you plenty mucho

balmy condor
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I've been mashing since I was like 7

molten flicker
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!feint

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wasn't there a feint macro command too

fresh blaze
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hello guys
have a quick question
i didint see any hotfix on leathality
can someone explain what was the hotfix?

drowsy hatch
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The tooltip is the same

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It just interacts with kb differently

stray adder
drowsy hatch
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aka not double dipping

fresh blaze
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ty ty

pearl flower
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need a log review for this one

versed nexus
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
pearl flower
jade cairn
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has there been a list posted about any relevant timewalking gear to get from tokens

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pins don't mention anything

dense talon
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What is the best thing to do while you wait 5 mins once you apply to 5 dungeons ?

jade cairn
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I'm gearing a new rogue

drowsy hatch
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I doubt anyone has gone through that effort

drifting lance
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masturb-

strong radish
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!macro

jade cairn
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anything I should bother getting then for prio slots

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dagger for example

dense talon
drifting lance
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post nut clarity

sharp viper
drifting lance
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despair

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hate life, the usual

dense talon
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contempelation on why i came back to wow?

humble cradle
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sorry if this explained somehwere already but i originally crafted dagger, belt and wrists with dawn thread on belt and wrists. im about to recraft dagger to 636, do i have the option to swap to ascension?

balmy condor
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or it's strictly worse

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so like if you have some dogshit ilvl slot that you need to badly upgrade

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go for it

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otherwise it's whatever

balmy condor
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it's either double dawnthread, or it's ascension+writhing band

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they're pretty much equal everywhere

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so if you have 2 dawnthread

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just stick with that and don't bother

balmy condor
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yeh

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so dagger

jade cairn
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any recommendations

balmy condor
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and maybe like

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trinkets

drifting lance
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aight boys

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we wasted money

balmy condor
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or something

waxen oyster
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isnt timewalking gear super low

balmy condor
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champ track I think

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and hero from the top difficulty raid?

waxen oyster
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oh i mean the actual dungeon gear

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idk how that shit works

balmy condor
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oh yeh

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the dungeon stuff is veteran

waxen oyster
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like does it scale to your ilvl

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in the raid

balmy condor
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no

waxen oyster
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F

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not sure how the token gear works

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kinda wanna grab hand of justice on the offchance its good

jade cairn
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token exchanges up to hero track gear

balmy condor
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banger

jade cairn
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but I don't know where the catch is

waxen oyster
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but how do you get the tokens

jade cairn
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you can buy lfr and normal track

waxen oyster
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like obviously first you get renown gear freebies

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if you have rep

jade cairn
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i got the shitty ones

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not the renown 24 or w.e

waxen oyster
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24 is the free runed crests

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enchanted

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not sure if korrak's revenge triggers the pvp crafting quest

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that can get you a 610 crafted wep

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for no sparks

gleaming bough
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Is anyone doing the macro for shiv and thistle tea?

balmy condor
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tons

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yes

jade cairn
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my thistle tea is auto drinking at below 30

balmy condor
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it does that yeah

jade cairn
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do I take that off

gleaming bough
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I assume its just /cast shiv /cast thistle tea?

balmy condor
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
merry bison
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40th run of grim and didnt see skardyns ones

balmy condor
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only 40?

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weak

merry bison
balmy condor
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I'm at 54

merry bison
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You also miss skardyns?

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sadge

balmy condor
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yep

merry bison
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๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

jade cairn
merry bison
waxen oyster
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korakk's revenge in pvp

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or any bg win can trigger the quest

merry bison
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I just dipped after I got the 500 honor

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korakks takes like 30min or even more with clueless groups

waxen oyster
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you need to win a game generally for quest to trigger

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got it on my warrior since got ashran

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and team insta rushed boss

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and won

lost grotto
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Did my first +10 run yesterday and got skardyns xd

balmy condor
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if I wasn't of strong recovered mental

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you would be getting a ban in your inbox

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but I am reformed

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I feel nothing but elation for your success

drowsy hatch
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oh he's PISSED

jade cairn
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already have the win but there's a quest from korrok

distant plinth
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Were the bug fixes huge dps loss for us?

balmy condor
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pins

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have the answer thou seeketh

distant plinth
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Haha i checked right after i sent it sry

waxen oyster
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yeah thats a different quest

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the pvp quest thing that gives heraldries is just nice to make 2-3 610 items

crystal oxide
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
dim yacht
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fastest way to gear is prob to chill in warmode collecting crates for conq

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then buy marks and craft all 610

wild birch
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Just Q rated arena

dim yacht
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if youre alliance and not on rp servers, you can do warmode in old xpac zones where its dead. not fun though

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youre right deev, i guess i meant lowest effort

waxen oyster
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crates give 60 conq per zone per day

fresh terrace
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any fatebound builds competitive in m+?

waxen oyster
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or if you kill people who are marked bounties you get like 50-60 from their bounty bag

wintry pagoda
waxen oyster
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i got 2 vicious bloodstones on my alt

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because the pvp wq was a warzone that day

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from 2 bounties in like 5 minutes

brittle quail
balmy condor
brittle quail
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is it not aanymore?

wintry pagoda
#

Fatebound raid build is still the easy mode build from ur wowhead entry whispyr?

balmy condor
#

fatebound kinda dookie in aoe compared to deathstalker

#

fatebound in raid though

#

pretty good

brittle quail
#

ha y true no funnel

balmy condor
#

but fatebound has very little in terms of aoe

fresh terrace
#

yeah was slamming fatebound in raid was fun asf

subtle tundra
#

it just does less dmg in aoe

balmy condor
#

clear the witnesses? momentum of despair? big envenom buff? the mark and everything caustic and better defensives and funnel and

#

holy

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like

dim yacht
#

doesnt make it free

subtle tundra
#

you kinda want LESS funnel tbh

balmy condor
#

it's just more damage, more everything

balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

cause if you play meta classes

#

your target dies too fast

balmy condor
#

it's worse overall but the damage is real spread

dim yacht
#

fatebound in aoe is just awful yea

subtle tundra
#

fucking wow toke plummeted

ebon prism
#

it peaked at 350k

subtle tundra
#

270k on eu is literally same price before bruto

subtle tundra
lost grotto
drowsy hatch
#

real money wins again

ebon prism
#

ohhh

ebon prism
#

NA tokens are 200k now lol

#

270k would be nice

heavy canopy
candid ibex
#

Is the new thistle tea considered a dps loss if you go under 30 energy?

sinful fable
#

"Addressed an issue with the interaction between Deathstalker's Mark and Supercharged combo points." Does this mean 5cp with supercharge procs Deathstalkers mark?

subtle tundra
#

im pretty sure its cause people saw token skyrocket and bought tokens to sell for gold

dim yacht
#

i rergret not buying out a bunch of tokens at 200k each

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and then converting back to sell them at 350

drowsy hatch
dim yacht
#

woulda made profit even with the $5 loss per token

subtle tundra
#

its 7 euros for me

dim yacht
#

for usd yes

subtle tundra
#

and euro > dollar

dim yacht
#

20 usd to buy a token, 15 when using one

subtle tundra
#

wtf

dim yacht
#

if you brought tokens at 200 and sold at 350

#

a little over 25% profit per token

jade cairn
#

what

#

that is not correct math

subtle tundra
#

and it gives 13 euros

#

europeans getting robbed

dim yacht
jade cairn
#

150/200 is 75% profit good sir

dim yacht
#

for NA at least

ebon prism
#

varas u dont use sbs in keys?

subtle tundra
dim yacht
#

look at it this way. if you buy 4 tokens at 200k, you spend 800k. you can get 3 tokens back, and selling them for 350 gives you 1050k

#

thats 250k profit from 800k

#

that is a little more than 25% profit per token

subtle tundra
#

it feels good though

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so if youre a feel gamer, go ahead

#

play it

ebon prism
#

yeah it does feel good haha

dim yacht
#

gotta bare in mind its also helping your lethal dose though

sinful fable
#

thank you @balmy condor

balmy condor
#

np friend

ebon prism
#

and why do u use 2 points sub vs 2 points lethality? im just gonna copy your build

subtle tundra
#

2 sub points -> more MA value

#

you vanish at 12 sec on kb

wintry pagoda
#

Longer master assasin window

jade cairn
#

if i bought 1 token for 200k and sold it for 350k, that means i earned 150k, which is 75% of the original token price

ebon prism
#

k im swapping. ty

dim yacht
subtle tundra
#

was lethality hotfixed or is it wednesday patch?

dim yacht
#

but it costs you 20 to buy one

drowsy hatch
#

I think lethality was hotfixed

sweet snow
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

aha so i can play WaT

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and feel less worse

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(if i want to ofc)

balmy condor
#

yeah go for it

drowsy hatch
#

slam it bro wat all day

subtle tundra
#

yea but casualaddict was saying how dogshit it is

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and he is rank1

balmy condor
#

true

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I mean I'm not convinced on it either

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but subterfuge seems real gud

narrow siren
#

i ran a situation just now on the last platform in siege

jaunty phoenix
#

bro this rant is amazing, completely what i was feeling and now i feel at ease

subtle tundra
#

if you do vanish for MA only, then wat doesnt really have a place

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but if you use vanish for spreading bleeds when they run out, wat is good

balmy condor
#

or

narrow siren
#

how would i send my cd's here

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that photo is an example pretend ur on last platform in siege and wanna send cd's on tentable

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tentacle

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do i vanish garrtote mut mut evenom

balmy condor
#

you'd probably vanish ambush gar rup dm kb mut mut env

narrow siren
#

why ambush if i have darkest night?

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cuz it will fall off?

subtle tundra
#

cause its running out in 10 sec

balmy condor
#

gonna fall off yeh

narrow siren
#

10 sec is magic numbner?

subtle tundra
#

no its based on logic

balmy condor
#

there is no magic number

subtle tundra
#

in the situation

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"do i have enough time to get it up"

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no

balmy condor
#

it's just like you could mut mut env and then sit there without any bleeds and no cooldowns and gg you used your darkest night

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that's cool

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but also like

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you could've just ambushed

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and gotten the mark

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and who cares

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ya know

subtle tundra
#

on stitchflesh i remove my darkest night before the fight starts and i ambush on the first guy

rough oyster
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
subtle tundra
#

and by the time the hook goes off, i get darkest night up

balmy condor
#

yeh that's a reasonable move

narrow siren
maiden gale
#

Guys when we have one charge of ship do we use it on the last 8 seconds of kingsbane?

subtle tundra
#

rupture that late gives cancer

drowsy hatch
#

late ass rupture

subtle tundra
#

you DONT want cancer

subtle tundra
#

tried and tested

drowsy hatch
#

3 GCDs of deathmark ticking without a rupture

narrow siren
#

o right that's bad

wispy epoch
#

Transmitter gives me so much dmg

balmy condor
#

yeh, good on use

#

difficult to use

#

skardyns better

cursive adder
#

Do you think changing poison duration in code to 12hrs from 1h would create 9000 other bugs?

balmy condor
wispy epoch
#

Bursting for like 2.2mil and steady at 1.4mil on ST

drowsy hatch
#

skardyns crystal is my love exs_uwu

wispy epoch
#

I have mythic spyglass and heroic transmitter rn

#

Was able to get rid of heroic blood dagger for a heroic regicide which was nice

subtle tundra
#

that has been the case for like a decade

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maybe more!

mental dirge
#

i always feel energy deprived with ttk+ma+subt build

livid dagger
#

Question about aoe outside of CDs , if an extra pack is pulled in before you can get stealth up , and assume vanish is on CD..

Am I spamming 7 point crimson tempest (and fok) or is there no benefit doing so

Like do I fok>fok> crimson then just regular single target a prio mob ? Bleeds and such or kinda lost when this situation happens whatโ€™s best

mental dirge
#

especially in singletarget

balmy condor
wispy epoch
#

Is it better to use Transmitter off CD and line it up for the 6minute and get 4 uses out of it total, or hold for 30 seconds each time to get it on our Mark?

balmy condor
#

it's a dot

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it does no instant damage

livid dagger
#

Sure but I mean like . Do I just put it up

balmy condor
#

you just gotta get gar/rup up

balmy condor
#

for energy

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get CT up on the mobs

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and then back to caustic

livid dagger
#

Just tab targeting bleeds then ?

balmy condor
#

yep

livid dagger
#

Kk

wispy epoch
#

Will the overlap be a big dps lost

mental dirge
#

but more on ST with TTK outside of cds am i supposed to keep the envenom buff at 2 stacks or just go back to 1 stack?

balmy condor
wispy epoch
#

Figure pandemic will kinda soften the energy blow

quick shore
#

fatebound feels better in raid ST? would you recommend it?

balmy condor
drowsy hatch
balmy condor
#

can play it if you'd like

wispy epoch
#

So it goes into mark

subtle tundra
#

yea sure

tawdry flume
#

Im struggling to keep energy up during single target in m+. Do I just need to cast mutilate slower, or is it better get combo for envenom?

wispy epoch
#

ST in M+ is really lackluster but things get better when orbs get dispelled

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And we get that 20% haste

narrow siren
warm vortex
#

Any splatter WA? I donโ€™t use any and wanna start using some as people here have recommended it

livid dagger
# balmy condor yep

Still on the aoe subject when stray packs come in , just using fok to combo point Gen > tab rupture , garrote when I can , then mute for spatter once in a while ? (While keeping crimson up ?) lol

subtle tundra
wispy epoch
#

I also use fan of knives on orbs to insta max combo pointsโ€”oh yeah

lost grotto
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
wispy epoch
#

12 all bets are off

balmy condor
narrow siren
subtle tundra
#

any WA package should have it

wispy epoch
#

Can I no longer be a new member

hollow moss
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

balmy condor
#

to avoid bots and shit

warm vortex
spice plover
#

so I just read the pinned post and Whispyr wants to make us believe everything stays the same while it changes. I smell a conspiracy here. I don't trust this hmm.

wispy epoch
#

Oh yeah

balmy condor
#

yeah I don't trust that guy either

lost grotto
narrow siren
wispy epoch
#

Did these new bug fixes reduce our throughput significantly btw?

warm vortex
#

Ah alright

wispy epoch
#

Sorry if asked

warm vortex
#

Cheers

warm vortex
#

Cause atm I donโ€™t use any WAs minus a clear the scene (or whatever itโ€™s called) one and before I step into 12 keys I might wanna get some other WAs

wispy epoch
#

I just started bloodbound prog btw on mythic, should I just be rupturing all the guys in the pile then teleporting to the solo add to help kill?

#

While slowing adds

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Small adds

fringe crater
#

There's no way to guarantee the 7 coinflips in fatebound opener right? You can get up to 6 and the last one is chance?
Envenom from stealth opener = 2
Deathmark = 3 (+1 for the other)
Envenom cold blood = 4
Vanish Envenom cold blood = 6

Or am I missing something?

balmy condor
#

your rupture will give 2

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and then you have to hit the 50/50 on the envenom after that

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if you hit the 50/50 and go to 3

#

you guarantee 7

narrow siren
wispy epoch
fringe crater
#

But the first rupture doesn't give a coin: garotte + mutilate doesn't add to 5 combo points in the single target build

wispy epoch
#

Is rupturing the other adds first wrong though

narrow siren
fringe crater
#

Ah nvm, with deal fate it can get up to 5 i guess

wispy epoch
#

If I rupture the others first

balmy condor
wispy epoch
#

Then just funnel into far add

balmy condor
#

it's your first finisher from stealth

fringe crater
#

Yeah but the finisher has to consume 5 or more combo points

#

in order to get a coin

balmy condor
#

yeah

#

why would you rupture with less than 5

gloomy tusk
#

New nerf pretty irrelevant right?

fringe crater
#

Dunno, for some reason I figured with the opener you wanted to avoid rupture to give you a coin, but the first envenom to give you the first coin instead, because you'd start activating mean streak, but ye that's also not relevant because inevitable end is procced on the next 2 envenoms

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SO i thought the garotte + muti + rupture was on purpose to avoid getting 5 combo points

pearl flower
gloomy tusk
#

Just woke up

fringe crater
#

Ok, but now I get the comment how fatebound is "very rng" because it's 50/50 to hit the capstone 7% agi

subtle tundra
#

well not only

#

you want the dmg increase in your cds

#

and the direct dmg outside of cds

#

for most optimal result

merry bison
#

im kinda stuck

#

at like 1,7

balmy condor
#

like 1.7-1.9

ebon prism
#

all depends on tank pulls

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if they solo pull everything....

merry bison
#

yeye but sometimes

#

I just fail to find a quicker way to get out my poisons

blazing pumice
#

grim is a small pull dungeon

merry bison
#

when packs die too fast

#

ambush, double garrote into rupture into mutilate into fan into crimson and then pack is dead

balmy condor
#

ye

merry bison
#

what is a possible quicker way to bomb a group w 5 targets

balmy condor
#

gotta do bigger keys

merry bison
#

ofc

balmy condor
#

there isn't

#

you're a dot class

#

things die quick?

merry bison
balmy condor
#

too bad

#

that's what sudden demise is for

tulip fern
#

Yeah get rupture out quickly if itโ€™s gonna die fast but youโ€™re just gimped

sullen monolith
#

@balmy condor , can i have a question about your WA package? I love it, but the recent update killed something.

balmy condor
#

hm

quick shore
#

any good subterfuge builds? for m+

fringe crater
#

I geuss it's also not worth intentially keeping that first rupture under 5 combo points, so that you can delay the 7d coin RNG to the end with an extra envenom, which gives 33% higher odds of hitting it because of meanstreak? Sorry to reiterate on this

merry bison
#

guess I need to settle down on minmaxing keys below 10 parse

balmy condor
#

did you move stuff around

sullen monolith
#

This only happens if im on mount, but the envenom tracker position overlaps everytime

merry bison
balmy condor
#

yeah

#

the envenom tracker overlaps cause of jank

sullen monolith
#

yes, i moved out DM and KB, but before envenom tracekr it didnt cause any problem

balmy condor
#

not much I can do about that

#

the envenom tracker is it's own group

#

so it's just doomed

sullen monolith
#

yeah i see that

#

i hoped you have a solution ๐Ÿ˜„

balmy condor
#

the solution is move it to fit your layout

raven trench
#

guys are u playing hybrid or MA ?

#

in m+

merry bison
fringe crater
sullen monolith
balmy condor
#

when you unmount it's good?

merry bison
#

this one

sullen monolith
#

This is when im unmount, i placed there manually. As you see there is nothing behind it as well

balmy condor
#

perfect

#

no issues then

sullen monolith
#

๐Ÿ˜„

fringe crater
#

It feels weird not picking up master assassin with 2 points in subterfuge, I guess it'rs just impossible to move any of the other talent points?

lost grotto
fringe crater
#

That's lethality you're talking about

lost grotto
sullen monolith
merry bison
lost grotto
merry bison
#

oh

ebon prism
merry bison
#

I thought like, master assasin xd

balmy condor
raven trench
#

im missing MA Rotation :/

quick shore
#

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pseudo cosmos
#

Wait so is lethality useless now if it was bugged ?

grand trail
#

Gm is assa dead ?

drowsy harness
#

Yes

grand trail
#

Jk

balmy condor
#

it's just slightly worse

lost grotto
grand trail
#

What's popular m+ build rn?

pseudo cosmos
#

And big L on longer twist knife

sullen monolith
balmy condor
#

np

distant plinth
balmy condor
#

either of these tbh

#

have been making the rounds

#

people dropping bone spike for some reason

lost grotto
fringe crater
#

Yeah dropping bonespike feels bad, but the damage feels nuts with master assassin

pseudo cosmos
#

I donโ€™t get the bonespike tech but ok

balmy condor
#

I don't get it either

#

it's aight

karmic stream
#

I got a bone to pick with whoever did that build

distant plinth
ebon prism
#

ooh u like numbing over atrophic?

distant plinth
lost grotto
dense cloud
# balmy condor

isnt the build on the right hand side for higher keys tho? since it needs ramp up time?

grim jay
# balmy condor

you need to spread the without a trace variation, we still didnt have our "SEE WE TOLD YOU WHISPYR" moment

oblique hollow
#

m+ builds are so conflicting. taking out bone spike feels bad, taking out sudden demise feels bad but MA and TTK seem so good ๐Ÿ˜ญ

fringe crater
#

Feels like we have to be lvl 81 to hit the sweet spot in talents, can't take anything out

wintry pagoda
#

i genuinely like without a trace for pugging

balmy condor
pseudo cosmos
grim jay
wintry pagoda
#

2nd vanish charge makes super weird chainpulls fairly managable

#

without losing it for cds

oblique hollow
#

oh ya definitely, good balance between good convenient feel good talents and big number talents. i think its well designed in this regard but that makes the choice so much moren painful

pseudo cosmos
#

Tbh with the lethal bug fix ima just go WaT tech

grim jay
#

so you mean the marginal impact of the bugfix was somehow big enough to change builds for you? PogO

distant plinth
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
pseudo cosmos
distant plinth
# balmy condor

Which one of em do you like the best? Pros and cons if possible?๐Ÿฅถ

grim jay
fringe crater
#

Let's just drop iron wire so we can fit in master assassin without losing bonespike or sudden demise and agree to never tell our m+ parties that we're griefing them for damage

winter gale
#

Hi guys

subtle tundra
#

If so play the sbs one

winter gale
#

Is Notter's Kingsbane tracker still something usable atm?

distant plinth
wintry pagoda
fringe crater
#

Only 4% of players are rogues, there is no muscle memory to begin with

pseudo cosmos
#

True and real

fringe perch
#

and barely half of those get invited to keys

wintry pagoda
#

based take

#

u win

winter gale
#

Is Notter's Kingsbane tracker still something usable atm?

fringe crater
#

If my tanks chainpull with 1 mob at 10% health 99% of the time, i'm betting that none of them even know of the existence of iron wire

wintry pagoda
fringe perch
pseudo cosmos
#

It feels shit but what can u do

fringe perch
#

bitch about it in the class discord

pseudo cosmos
#

Hahah

wintry pagoda
fringe perch
#

No, saying that the fuckwit Auya from Bleeding Hollow says that, would be targetted.

charred helm
upper meteor
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
fringe crater
subtle tundra
#

You gotta do what you gotta do

charred helm
#

true, but it feels even worse having to bleed a whole pack without carnage

subtle tundra
#

๐Ÿ˜”

fringe perch
fringe crater
#

Me staying begin to kill the one low health mob while the rest of the party continues to AOE the next chain pull

oblique flare
#

That's why you say fuck it and pick a second vanish

#

Bonus points if you're Nelf

pseudo cosmos
#

Tbh og me likes human for Everyman for himself

#

I cba to change

oblique flare
#

It is a nice racial. But when you pvp, meld is too good

pseudo cosmos
#

I could make nelf work perhaps

lime light
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
bright tartan
#

"You would also need to vanish the last stack of your cold blood to double edge case (this is old rotation, just as a reminder)"
How does vanish interact with edge case?

balmy condor
#

if you have cold blood/inevitable end up

#

it'll match edge case

#

so the combo is always deathmark -> cold blood(2) -> finish (cold blood 1) -> vanish -> finish

quick shore
subtle tundra
#

He is rank 1 assa

#

He is the smartest

#

And bestest

#

Shut up

royal lantern
#

i also heared that his hairline is awesome and just gets better with every single m+ score increase

young garden
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
ebon steppe
#

Is there a way to show +3 cp in cp wa when supercharger is up๏ผŸ

strange python
#

I very rarely don't get chance to restealth, even when chaining. Granted I'm only doing 11s, but you can hang back a touch on the last nob and usually get restealth....but if you can't it really doesn't make too much difference. Mouseover bleeds ftw

grim jay
#

so that kinda doesnt make sense

barren island
#

Bro this community is so cancer, a dk used abomination limb on the last boss of ara kara on a +11 killed everybody, was told to take care, use it again, key broke and he said "get rekt" ppl like this remind me why I gave up wow one for so many years /rant

quasi coyote
#

is tea shiv macro only for supercharger

balmy condor
balmy condor
#

just for always

barren island
blazing pumice
#

you're telling me there's people with social problems

grim jay
quasi coyote
#

what changed it to that then out of curiosity

blazing pumice
#

on world of warcraft

barren island
ebon steppe
#

Like its 2cp but you could envenom

grim jay
subtle tundra
balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

Yes I'm elitist

ebon steppe
balmy condor
#

but you shouldn't

#

or at least it doesn't matter

grim jay