#assassination
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KEEEEEK
I’m going to have an aneurysm homie
God I wish
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mVFDT2ua87r7B1ytXZebGA swappin sang out for MA
40k increase
wdym?
^bveen farming a whole fucking day in the Underbelly... am i missing something ? i cant seem to drop the damn artifact appearance
you're either missing LUCK or the base weapon
then its luck because ive got the base weapon in my bank
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Hey so on shorter raid fights, when DM comes back up, do we hold it for 10 seconds until we get vanish back?
oh jeez, removing iron wire for sang gives deeps https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fJ2qniDdp6YHaYDZ7PT1v5
We’ve been nerfed!!!
You're only going to vanish the last 6s of death mark so it should like up
Noooooooook
ironwire is too good
Earlier you asked me why i don't like Subterfuge - basically because of the stance change. I want it either stealth action bar to change to the regular when i enter Subterfuge, or there to exist a stance bar for Subterfuge. The way it's now is Subterfuge uses stealth bar. I don't like that. And thats why I don't mind IC, cos it doesn't interfere with stance bars
Line*
i do not care for survivability
if im not dead im good
How bad is our nerf :’(
I can’t tell if this Uberscot is trolling or not
im not a THIS
First thing to always do is check pins
:(
Numbers are in pins. It's extremely minor
My b my b
He’s so fast honestly. We are blessed
anyone have the tea+shiv macro
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
^
@drowsy hatch thanks
I love this pin 
all roads lead back to rogue 
Quick! Do an ollie!
Ive looted the stupid cloak out of GB 7 times now

I want to die
does skateboard trick
you macro to deathmark
Dm
Rock onn
have you gotten speed or avoidance on it tho :D
or have on use trinket binds
:(
maybe remove 1 point of lethal dose to add Iron Wire back in? can you sim how much DPS loss that 1 point is?
3 boots, 7 cloaks, 2 chests
its not a rash cloak
Blizzard made grim batol for people to suffer
the most popular alternate builds are dropping sd and sb
ill do that, tho this is my dps with standard wowhead; https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fjPqvFaSdBxzCKK13Q7KqY
Im still playing the old hybrid build (SD/SB/Carnage), is there another build coming out ahead for M+?
just pure damage
man what is this, when i press rupture i dont have insta full combo points anymore
im spoiled
yall using way too many abbrevation for my ass
you want me to untalent it?
youll get the hang of it, its a rogue thing
Wasn't talking to you was referring to Koda
ah
i love whispyr pins rants
yea i was just memeing
im surprised ive been in this discord since i started back in 2017
and ive never really used this
around 70%ish if I do some quick math in my head
gonna try old hybrid -SC/recup + 1 subter and see how it feels
quik mafs
you can change tracking style in custom options if you dont like them
"With TTK working now in sims; single target we will want to be vanishing for last 6 of KB with master assassin" so the vanish is just purely to get MA back
more like anything not phys is magic
you just start from 100
and subtract bleeds/mutilate/autos
and gg
Fair enough
think i might need to relearn this whole spec if im gonna use ttk/ma/subt
it was kinda weird first key but not too bad
but from the text whispyr posted
youre gonna use the vanish to regain MA at the end of the kb?
Yeah
It's really not that different
Vanishing at the end of dm/kb is the main change
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Yeah just continue as normal
Also you can use it to spread iron wire again if you need
Well that's it's own cursed thing
removing iron wire is not the move
xD
no IT IS THE MOVE
How hard is assa for someone who has no idea about the spec/class ?
Easy
ezpz
took me 2 minutes to learn m+ rota
Sarcasm or ? 😄
no like unironically
Basically just wake of ashes
pretty high skill floor tbh
I see , thanks
But no St is pretty easy but aoe is more complicated than others
but i still learned the basics and what not
Spread bleeds and then just single target, never change targets
yeah i actually had the issue of changing target all the time
it fucked up my caustic
a lot of "we still"
i was wondering why my caustic was so much worse than others
yes congrats that's the point
literally went from like 150m to 350m overall caustic
smd
people with this mindset like removing ironwire for +80k theoretical dslice dps is the reason 80% of the playerbase cant figure out how to time a fucking 10 this season
real...
How do you all play the first boss of Ara Kara? Just st the boss and pray your other dps kill adds? Feels so bad to swap off
but ive timed plenty of 10s so its fine
i skip first set
and help on 2nd and beyond
usually
as long as they arent a AOE-heavy class
But I play with a group that switches back easy
id rather not spend energy helping
So hard to say consistently
^
im still running the normal wowhead one
Makes sense.. I feel like just taking a dk or ret is mandatory for that fight
Old hybrid build
its usually only an issue if your group has a fucking aug in it
but im swapping out and testing this tweeked out from pin
nah
though those work wonders
I was in a 8 with another rogue and he destroyed me with zero his build
i did like 4 arakaras today and none had a ret or dk
if you're confused by all the variations just use the build from the guide
running double rogue crushes my mental
and you'll be fine
im just fighting to do dps
!wa
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same haha,
the only reason i run double rogue is if my old guildies ask to run
and hes the key holder
It was just for gold
kek
kekw
improve garrote +subterfuge means 12 seconds of improved garrote, correct?
yes
yes
ty
wdym
wdym
Without whispyr it would burn here i think
he's gone
Wdym
unlucky
lol
wdym
bro is just yapping
hello OPEN WOWHEAD
as soon as whispyr questioned him, he deleted
bro was scared, when he saw whispyr typing
true
xd
bro did not do the exploit correctly...
have you not gone to primary school fr fr
Nah
is Whispyr the bully scaring people away from the sin channel again?
god I hope so
whos whispyr
Again? Never stopped
Whispyr is your worst nightmare
a person with very greasy bowling balls
im whispyr
Whispyr is Rasha'nan worst nightmare
If only Whispyr would give his opinion on auto tea
well 40* if you account for hero track
lmao end game scene, i love that part
I'm like william afton, from five nights of freddy, cause I'm the purple guy but I also rawr and scary
same
xd
im so done with this fucking dung
same
i might push it but
I dont think shiv/tea macro is actually good i think whispyr was just sick of answering that question on stream so he put it in the APL
hmmmmmm
i think using any kind of macro is just wasting your memory
xd
Thank for



so if i just have iron wire still; https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p3scdYsC11ek7QBTrdZxoL is there any place i could improve here
The sandbagging is likely
duel me
You withheld WaT tech too
i love ur pinned message whispyr
@balmy condor can I give you a feedback on the AoE APL, you do what you want with it
minor suggestion maybe
I can’t wait to see Whispyr cook up the WAP tech
uh huh
seems to be confusing people since we dont run double shiv in m+
What is wat friend
brother did you not see the names of his sims in the video?
dont give him apl work
that's not the APL what
start running it
Wet Ass Poisons
Hell yeah
I was scared we were getting some AI garbage I have to translate into real code
plenty of that as is
whatever, not the point
had to open your twt for a sec, actually didnt know maxroll just copypasted 💀
what do you guys consider the action priority list then
the.... sims?
APL is specific to sims
Not that
there is only one APL

it's the list of actions the sims take
ok well I had that wrong, we got this cover now, what do you think of what I said about the guide
this auto tea is insufferable
For MA, no bonespike, are we only rupturing once on opener in 6+ targets or is it worth to spread it a bit more. no bonespike opener only mentions rupturing once so wanted to check
sure I guess
idk if my opener on 6+ targets have been wrong
wheres the choice node to turn off the cringe passive blizz
Someone reset the timer 
i usually ambush, gar, rup, gar, rup and then start envenom phase on marked
We were doing so well too
sometimes another gar and rup if i still have uptime
I feel like ones opinion on auto tea is like a litmus test on understanding the spec
Oh noooooooooo I got a full 100 energy out of my tea! 
something like this makes sense in my brain as well but just trying to get confirmation
ive always ran this
where's your crimson tempest?
and i keep a steady between 2-3m
right after
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
right after which part
which might be bad
yeah might be
hmm
hmmm
nahh no way
so ambush, gar, rup, gar, rup, gar, rup, fok(?), crimson, mut and start envenom phase
Icy veins
Yeah man I think it’s called Thottbot or something
sure that works I guess
!wa
Noxxic my man
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rip thottbot
its worked pretty much in any scenario ive done
I mean yeah
as long as i have stealth
you just columbus'd the opener
i like to have some charges when i get to a boss, if im doing trash and i accidentally drop below 30 energy cant use for the mastery on the cds + getting the 100 energy
bro
it is
Do we just keep up CT or do we care about the last tick of the bleed. As far as im aware u cant pandemic it
ill pray when i get to that IQ 🙏
I just realized internal bleeding requires me to cheap shot
you can pandemic is like any other effect
should I be using cheapshot on CD then?
ah
just maintain it
assassination nerfed
bring back the old graphics pls they were so good
it does not
With 2 seconds left on the pull

Is there a timing for that?
Man it’s almost like it’ll be back when your CDs are back
so its gar, rup rup gar gar crimson fok, mut and then CD
!pd
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
Read the tooltip "Kidney shot and Rupture"
google doesn't like graphics
gonna try the guide intended opener then
tomorrow
have fun
I don’t think you can dip below 30 energy during trash unless you’re doing something very off
Yeah I get them confused, the combo point one. Kidney. Do I use it on CD then?
man its almost like they shouldve made it a choice node instead of forcing 1 option, even if its low impact its annoying
and see if theres a difference
being beholden to SEO is a fate worse than death
no
Just during deathmark with other CDs?
no
just don't think about it
What spell d be on top in dmg overall, envenom or garrote
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you just don't cast kidney unless you need to stun something
banner is accurate
caustic spatter
Well then why the fuck would I take Internal bleeding on raid fights
RUPTURE
Because it works on rupture
I'm gonna lose it
hahahaha
Read it again 🤷🏼♂️
Bro these people are goobers
Oh wow, I read that wrong. I thought you had to do both
Whispyr I commend your patience
Can we go back to being middle of the pack

these people cannot be real flesh and blood humans
Like caustic is mutilate on ruptured targets. I thought it require kidney on ruptured targets
dont, you need your brain
Ib would be the worst talent in the game if it was both
#1 gargler
This MA nerf seems pretty small, which is nice.
you are an amazon robot gone rogue
Yeah I love gargling his balls
@balmy condor sorry if this has been asked, but I macro’d shiv and tea but it leaves you with only one tea on the second dm if you play two shivs. Is that still okay?
go back to torturing warehouse employees
caustic to cleave and internal bleeding on single target its as simple as it gets
What can I say?
i realize now that i misread the opener on wowhead. i am sorry for my transgressions. please forgive me assassin overlords.
what does that make you
yep
that does seem to be how the world works
1 min cooldown every 1 min
Some people exist on here just to agitate Whispyr
Bro thinks I agitate that man
Cool just wanted to be sure thanks man!
(He’s right)
np
i exist here cause i still dont know how im playing this spec right or wrong, upside or topside
fere is #1 gargler so mike can come in and un-gargle them with some useless technicality no one asked for
amen I love it
BASED
Play shaco topside. You’ll be fine
I’ll dip Whispyr’s balls into my tea and then waterboard you with it 
AP SHACO PENTAKILL
Chug your tea
pause
this is worse than just calling them a slur man why would you wish that upon someone
Petition to rename Thistle tea to Whispyr tea
Always nice to dip into this channel at times and just watch things unfold automatically
I’m in here to ignore my job. I’m never actually in here when I play
yeah brb about to drink some weird ass tea with this in it
yeah bro like slamming your nuts into a woodchipper sucks but have you tried being a fiddlesticks main
yes
is this turning into a League channel
it's been a fucking ARAM since the patch
I unironically play shaco support woodchippers are fun
is there a point of tracking supercharged CP ? even minimal ?
no point at all
you should actually
have a great day
any tips for the crystal boss in stonevault as assa rogue? i do 0 dmg to them i feel like
Caustic should murder them
îs it ok to take numbing poison for M+? I feel like it makes it easier for pugs to interrupt
i swear my caustic is doing 0 dmg to them
idk bout always but you def can
we still need 7CP+Supercharged for Darkest Night
You can dn them if you plan ahead
you don't
ye I mean Supercharged 5+2 won't work
it does
idk if that's pinned tbf
They don’t exist
tried to ask earlier, but is there anywhere i could actually improve this shit https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p3scdYsC11ek7QBTrdZxoL (besides removing iron wire kek)
Any way we can disable the puddle forming from wax procs?
the what now
The visual from bubbling wax
Didn’t you type out a whole ass LotR book with that bug fix in it?
bubbling wax has a visual?
spamming as in mut into env?
(I have no idea if you can remove it)
I swear you did yesterday
I've seen that but wasn't sure about that 5 + 2 supercharged would work, so for Darkest Night it's just 7+
yeah looks like a puddle of cum
It does
that's crazy
Yeah looks like my special tapioca pudding
Makes me jump sometimes thinking its a swirly

Lmao
what
God I wish I could get bubbling waxed
It’s like a dead slime animation
I love that word
Ayo
Oh I still need your Laugh track kingsbane parry WA

It’s LEs KB weak aura I just changed the swirl sound to a laugh

Guess what I finally got
Shouldve had a trickster rogue in your raid bozo
No idea
I’ll Coup de Grace my nuts into your face Eleem 
holy shit wtf
My goodness
Nomnomnom
Don't post that kind of stuff in here
God I’m boutta BUUUUUUUUUUUUS-
New to rogue, I see most things talk about having two shivs but now it looks like only one shiv is ran. Do I use the shiv before kingsbane or whenever it hits 8 seconds now?
8 seconds left
Frankly that’s none of our Beesiness
Have you never noticed lmao it freaks me out sometimes
Latter
I can’t believe Whispyr never noticed the tapioca pudding puddle
Guess he’s a true gooner
Bro doesn’t even notice anymore
does it scale with mob size or something? did they change the size? it used to be smaller
hes got whetstones money
Man only sees numbers
I only used wax for like the first 3 days of the expac
Just buy whetstones now. They are finally cheap
I swear it's gotten bigger since they "Fixed" it from applying to higher ilvl items
Okay man but the visual is a DPS increase
I know Fereran is the type to go to diddy parties
So get to jorkin
fits right in
Nice try diddy. That’s projection

shit
He’d only go if Whispyr went. So I think he’s safe
the p in p diddy stands for patrick
i gotta wake up early for leg day
Its cool that theres a visual but man that is too much
Whispyr and I made sweet love in a KFC dumpster at Blizzcon last year

What if he’s been edging this whole time and his next puddle is gonna be huge
what in the Kick streamer are you talking about
idk where the nearest KFC even is at blizzcon
who you thought was whispyr was just a cosplayer
rogue only consumable
You can get them from any delve thing
just buy whetstones bro
Or random boxes and wax stuff
OPEN WOWHEAD
But yeah just use whetstones
nah im cheap as hell
They're cheap
so shiv and KB should be macro’s together?
imma go farm the wax
Yeah but why use whetstones when you can have a funny wax puddle?
diddy land
Yeah you don’t remember?
How convenient
No, they're both gcd and you use shiv alone if you're running 1 shiv
dude that's an 80 minute walk
cant hear you from up here what did u say
wait sorry i meant shiv and tea
Yeah that's good
sry i dont speak poor
based
sorry for not spending gas money on fucking pixels
based
cope
Nice counterfeit tier 3
but also based
not even real t3
bro has fiscal responsibility
hell yeah i do
show me yours
Woah you can’t just ask that
At least take em to dinner first
relax puffy
broke from mount
where did this diddy thing with fere even come from
him being sussy?
Who fucking knows man lmao
fere just comes in here to shitpost idk
off-topic poster breaches containment
Hey hey I actually play the game okay?
cause for punishment
can’t hear you on my Speccy T in my tier 3
zoom out
Someone check in on @balmy condor i feel like its been a rough 48 with all the faqs
wait wrong gloves
Ok now ur just flexing to flex
I'm doin alright, back to grim batol farm
:)

ez clap
you aint beating my ugly ass orc
Don’t worry bro I’ll manifest for you
pvp mog better tbh
how much you paid for those tabards
Ok now even I hate you
void was 800k
sending a ticket to blizzard sayin you abused the outlaw exploit as we speak @waxen oyster
nature 25k
Damn I paid 2m for void
For ST it seems that skardyn heroic and mythic is simming lower then treacherous and ritual knife at champion level
Bro knows he’s been beat so he resorts to that

You not get it yet

man i shouldve gone to bed an hour ago
its ok i wasted a mil on frost
before they made it a prime drop
they are all ass
Really got to get on those mog runs with the new changes
Can’t go wrong with artifact
Gurubashi poker
wrong dagger for cm
can get them on the AH
I really enjoy the new mythic track regicide. But I have nothing to match
I've really been enjoying this new dagger model from TWW
@waxen oyster does naxx T3 goes for gold cap on the BM?
Regular tier 3? No
You can also farm it now
i have the poor man version
nope
You can now
"dagger"
its fairly expensive the mats
Royal coming in
tier 3 costs around 3+M gold to craft
With the info dump
I know because i crafted it
yeah f that im the worst at making gold in this game i just buy tokens
im actually using full t3 and midnight tabard currently xD
but hey i used a different set for like 1 week
are we sexting rn, is that what it is
in dm/kb do we use improved garrote after shiv in vanish?
"what are you wearing?"
"full t3 with a midnight tabard"
specify the situation? this st / aoe? how long will mobs last
used this for a week but its not made to fit a human
oh hell naw
you know whats unhinged
win
my habit of buying every color cloak/glove/sarong
when trading post makes them avail
what m+build yall using for 12s and up?
same
14s
ussing this in 12s np
no more sudden demise interesting
Sudden deffo loses value the higher you go, but if you have insanely bursty people with you it can be kinda worth
sb diff is really big on packs, specially with how much hp they have
ttk dif on st is meh
they're running subterfuge too
Any rotational changes with subt?
no
Gey there, sry this question has probsbly been asked before but the Top M+ seems to differ a bit from the one on the guide sites (going into Subterfuge instead of overloaded Cp and Twist the Knife + Crit in Stealth Node in Assa tree instead of extra Damage on Muti/Ambush and Bone Spike). How does that impact our rotation if at all (besides fewer CP in opener oc. Mainly wondering about the Subterfuge part)
pins
Oh sry :'D ty
if it's dungeon aoe you should aim to spread gar if it's not on everything / is within pandemic duration
if we're talking raid aoe you won't really spread gar like that
then if there's mobs that aren't going to instantly die (lil shitters around the corruptors at end of grim batol) from aoe it's fine to spread gar even in dm.
just be mindful of spatter uptime on KB target and try to avoid spending a long time not autoing ur kb target
thx
Take bonespike, you aren’t a top rogue. Respectfully
casual is still taking bonespike / regular build last I checked
Yeah he was looking at some of the top rogues with aren’t, along with other stupid things like dropping iron wire
dropping iron wire is so cooked with how this season has played out
we have more than enough damage, stops and survivability are the problem
I'd imagine biggest overall build would probably take MA over IW, subt
why would somebody drop IW ?
tank slept with wife maybe?
xd
idk
"it doesnt do damage so why would i spec it"
(obviously a meme, always spec iron wire)
idk i get ptsd if i dont take IW people cant interrupt in m+ properly
all i'll say is I play with a shaman who 24/7 doesn't take useful utility and justifies it cus dps loss

time to shop for a better shaman
!WA
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You can do half the interupts in a dungeon now with sub
thats why he plays the game
ye
the play is just drop iron wire, and get sudden demise, let the tank do their job
quick question, whys people playing sub in raid over assa fr fe
the amount of times he's like "nah not got hex" "not got purge" "not got tremor"
don't take IW and do not shiv the enforcers in GB
last time I asked him what the fuck do you even have?
because they want to?
what fight are you asking about
ight thanks
some fights have good timings for sub cds
used to play sub in CN sadge
it's a damage profile thing mostly
silken court for example is a fight where you can play sub
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dw, you can get away with sin for pretty much all fights
ever since the most recent buffs especially
what do u drop for subterfuge for m+?
i started out the expac as sub, then i saw the numbers
ok back to sleep
hopefully i can get 5h this night
!wa
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you dont play spec musical chairs?
I'd say kyveza and sikran also lean sin
Supercharger, recuperator
but ye ovi and rash the others don't really compete
Just making sure I understand thsi right, our opener is to apply bleeds before going into DM-Shiv-KB
damn they nerfed double dipping?
(idk what that even is)
poor whispyr bout to get fkd up again 😂
Delete this before he returns
did they fix the bug?
is there a post
Fixed an issue that caused Kingsbane (Talent) to benefit from Lethality’s (Talent) effect twice.
so how much dps loss is it
ok i will ping whispyr two weeks from now and ask about if this changes talents or not
because i am an assassination channel user
I would be shocked if it's a 1% difference
might actually be considering the crit dmg
won't be much more if it is though
its a reroll balance druid angle now
Surely they also fixed kingsbane initial hit double dipping on mastery 
We pullin a mage discord and dooming about 5% master assassin nerf?
2 additional changes like 3mins ago
Anyway it would be nice to spec into supercharger instead of lethality for sure
poor whispyr
hence all the doom 😂
The nerf is not a nerf
wdym? this place is in perma doom mode - always 
we so dont care of master assassin in the old build
New double dipping change is a 11.7% nerf. Sims are up on nightly
and really 5% on 6 sec of kb krkrkrkrr
People are hitting turnips for a couple of minutes to rack up buffs
ah ok thats a bit degenerate then
They did that in DF too
i thought u just pressed ur buttons
but the new blue post about correct of bug ?
like how dhs just press meta or whatever
Tbf assa and sub can theoretically do similar things with lingering darkness
But its significantly less impactful
u can tell they just hired 40 devs from the bruto revenue
There’s also this cool precombat thing rogues can do that insane for damage
Called stealth
its called forgetting to stealth and needing to use vanish to apply your death stalkers mark after the pull kid
If the pug tank doesn’t back to back pull it works well
Nerub-ar Palace
Players can now speak with Widow Arak’nai to leave the raid after defeating Queen Ansurek.
only important line in the patch
lets fucking go man
Bro just read your Pin , thank you for your work . but please go outside take some air life is beautiful
i will still kill myself
thank you
That's what this is for
"without significantly impacting the value" I'LL BE THE JUDGE OF THAT
OH MY
all of my calculations in shambles
Oh shit thats about to fucking plummet
Good thing i sold of my gilded vial stock earlier today 
When is he not
I have a stockpile of gems
Which seem like will be reduced so that is good
but like
that's insane that rocks and glass will come from every prospect
i like how outlaw gets some clearly not intended stuff fixed
and the outlaw channel goes crazy how much blizz hates outlaw
all the time 
outlaw players are doomers
is assasin currently bugged?
if not fixing stuff, bad cus not fixing stuff
if fixing stuff that has some small benefit, bad cus omg you hate my spec
every time
How does subterfuge change gameplay in M+?
I was pre buffing 6 buffs before every key and still doing less than tank damage on every first pull
we all are the same idiots
You think that's fine to fix this
not me, I'm an optimistic 90 usd mount owner
well all the shitty bug are still there soooo
When outlaw is literally the weakest spec in the game in these type of things
bug or scaling? this is the least amount whole lfr
When other classes can pre cd
yes ofc?????
just cus they are shit at balancing doesnt meant they should leave stuff like that in the game
???
guys what of type of sim style for aoe for assa?
lvl scaling going crazy
Lfr is broken scaling
It's litteraly just pressing CDs before key
Everyone does that
Why did it need feeding
Fixing
if u guys were rly like setting down dummies to smack them for extended periods of time for ur prekey thats pretty degen
but i dont know how true that is
dont play or watch outlaw
pirate spec 
tbf it's just a 🖕 from blizzard after the exploit
Idk
Is there a second pin already?
have you guys decided what build is actually the best for m+ now
in one hand yeah, bugs should be fixed
on the other hand tho rogue goes years without bug fixes that affect the class negatively but the moment a dps increase bug shows up they hotfix it within the day
I don't wanaa sim 17 combinations
negative
of talents
i mean yeah if outlaw is that bad they should prolly buff it but
the no iron wire
It's not a bug tho
To press cds before a key
That's not a bug
Everyone does that
yeah idk why they changed that
yes but
It's litteraly just the game
this is what i'm usin now and it kind of just feels the same
!tea
as the hybrid build
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

putting down a dummy toy and hitting it for multiple minutes (again i dont know if this is true but some1 said it earlier)
unless they plan to change it on the other classes too
its weird
Just needed a 30 s pull timer
You could do things with 10 s pull timer also
Very fine
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It absolutely is
I go into the key and instill do tank damage on the first pull
Let me decide for myself what is annoying or not

You could literally just press ADR rtb kir
join us
it mitigated a fair amount of RNG on the first pull of the key, on others you have buffs and stuff rolling from previous pack/boss but you're kinda dry on first pull without being able to do this
Before key and be 90% here
Why can every other class pool resource and press all their CDs
When they are already doing infinite damage
we still taking 1/2 lethality in AoE?
On these type of pulls
And I can't press 3 buttons pre key
Devs having a hate boner for this spec at this point
remember pre key shadow priest shenanigans in df?
I mean are you the weakest spec in the whole key or just one pull?
I see the two top rogue play with a poly ring
no no no, we ignore that, its ONLY outlaw
ONLY OUTLAW
You mad about 39 seconds outta 25 minutes
:C
on the princess mythic
im mad its inconsistent
and when i log some items, have a minimun of polyvalence is not really bad
Litteraly every hardest pack of the dungeon are the first pulls
And you are doing tank damage
something like 4k of poly
why nerf only outlaw, wheres the other classes
At least this was helping
why meta and mage shield still a thing
None of the prepull stuff before a key should be a thing
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i agree
I can feel the pain zac is going through right now
its stupid outlaw's got removed, and the others still exist
Idk I was literally doing tank DPS doing that







