assassination

[winged quail]

Why are you simming 4 mins?

[cerulean maple]

idfk i always sim 4 mins

for funsies ig

no real reason

[winged quail]

It’s not gonna include ur final death mark/kb

[winter willow]

seconding the ttk/ma question

[winged quail]

Since you cast on 4

[dawn heath]

https://did-my-husband-buy-bruto.com/

[vague thorn]

Master assins buff not reapplying when stealthing while the buff is still running only visual or actually not applying?

[crimson zephyr]

I must be blind but what's the darkest night proc? I can't see anything proc from that talent.

also I don't get it - since when does deathmark have charges?

[arctic cove]

i really enjoy SBS hope it doesnt become meta to remove LUL

[winter willow]

it's already happening from what i've seen

[arctic cove]

yupp..

[winter willow]

this is why i need to know what to press

like, what kind of rotational changes does it entail?

[dry ore]

do you guys spend combo points with envenom at 6-7 CP or 5 ?

[arctic cove]

duno, thats why i asked, i was just checking some of the top rogues talents on murlok website and some of the top10 players had removed SBS and DB

[waxen oyster]

It barely changes the rotation

you just cant go rupture rupture on packs

[coral ibex]

you can keep sbs if you want

[winged quail]

Losing SBS means you need to FoK to get extra ruptures out, adding MA means you want to vanish last 12 seconds of KB in cooldowns. Ttk don’t think about tbh

[coral ibex]

its not like you'd be trolling

the change is minimal

[waxen oyster]

the build diffs are minor

[spice spire]

That’s not how 4m sims work

They go 30 above and below

[jaunty dew]

Quick question, does it matter if the embellished dagger is on mh or oh?

[arctic cove]

hmm i see

[jaunty dew]

Cause I got a myth track dagger

[spice spire]

And take the mean

[winged quail]

Oh I never knew that

That is much better

[spice spire]

Usually ends up 4 22 for us

[sudden sigil]

ís there some bug in mists, that breaks stealth before packs in the maze?

[coral ibex]

idk if blizz thinks its a bug

[winged quail]

It’s something

[winter willow]

probably, because it happens to me

[coral ibex]

but yea the swirly wind effect pulls you out of stealth

[thorn crater]

are we playin differently without the SBS on that m+ build thats been going around? i would think its just an extra button press to fok into rup on opener right?

[sudden sigil]

got it thanks

[thorn crater]

or do we work the vanish into that to maximize MA?

[deep abyss]

i am rly new to assa and rogue period so expect some misclicks but here

[spice spire]

On target dummy too?

[cerulean maple]

well ive left teh settings the same that i always have when dps simming

[winged quail]

With subterfuge and MA you vanish last 12 seconds of KB, without subterfuge you vanish last 6 secs of KB

[cerulean maple]

so that i can compare to previous sims

[spice spire]

Double checking is all! In moment

[thorn crater]

so its just for KB and has nothing to do with bleeds right

[cobalt sphinx]

are you fatbound or deathstalker

[deep abyss]

ds

[spice spire]

Did you force 4p before

[thorn crater]

and the SBS thing doesnt change your playstyle?

[cerulean maple]

oh ye!! didnt mean to come off defensive lmfao sorry

[rain island]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[cobalt sphinx]

didn't you open with garrote? it's over before it even started

[spice spire]

Same here I was trying to clarify my stance as well

[coral ibex]

you need to open with ambush to apply deathstalker's mark

but otherwise it looks right

[winged quail]

It’s all for more burst in CDs and yeah you need to FoK without bonespike for more ruptures

[coral ibex]

you can envenom before cooldowns

[deep abyss]

yes ok mb

[coral ibex]

its a gain for your kingsbane

[cobalt sphinx]

no

that sequence is way off, that's a garrote, 3cp rupture, 7cp garrote

you should be ambushing, rupturing at 5+, and garroting below 7cp

[sudden sigil]

what the recomended build for m+ atm?

[deep abyss]

so ambush garrote garrote rupture

[coral ibex]

you press rupture at 5+ cp

[cobalt sphinx]

depends on your combo points

[coral ibex]

so if ambush garr gets you to 5+ you press rupture

[rain island]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[coral ibex]

otherwise you garr again

[deep abyss]

ic

[cobalt sphinx]

with bonerspike on multitarget you rupture twice in a row

[ocean ferry]

are you guys pooling in ST or just send?

except for the envenom stuff

[coral ibex]

check pins for pooling info

[cobalt sphinx]

so it's typically ambush garotte rup rup then more garrote(s) but buffs talents and procs and crits can change it

and target count

[deep abyss]

gotcha so the spread at start of fight will always be a bit diff

[coral ibex]

yes

[ocean ferry]

well it only states we pooling energy with envenoms but not builders and i'm constantly energy starved, so i gotta do sth wrong

[coral ibex]

generally tho its either ambush garr rup rup or garr garr rup rup

[deep abyss]

ok danke

[royal python]

Why doesn't shiv pandemic

[coral ibex]

[winter willow]

small indie dev

[spice spire]

Okay few more questions now! Last eeek do you remember if you enchanted things or forced 4p sim?

[spice spire]

It isn’t a dot

“But envenom pandemics”

It’s a weird one

And shiv is only a buff for like us usually

[royal python]

But symbols of death pandemics

[spice spire]

Let me roll this back

[royal python]

That's also a buff

[spice spire]

Symbols

And envenom

Are a buff placed on us correct?

[royal python]

Ok got it

Thanks

[spice spire]

Shiv is not

[marsh raven]

Do you guys know if MA or TTK is more efficient in MM+?

[royal python]

Run both imo

[marsh raven]

dropping exec?

[spice spire]

Dropping sudden demise and sanguine blades yeah

Ma TTK provides more prio damage for bosses

[marsh raven]

oooh sanguines blades

thanks!

[sudden sigil]

dont we run MA in m+ atm?=

[spice spire]

There are several builds being looked at, truth is they’re all close but excel at different things

MA Is used in a few

[thorn fjord]

The world is your oyster

[marsh raven]

Yeah it is probably all very close

[sudden sigil]

Ah dope, stupid question for something around +10's what the recomned build if there is any or again if its varaint

[thorn fjord]

Subt/MA 1.2% higher than SB SD for me so its whatever you vibe with

[marsh raven]

looking at the sims I could do.
(It never occured to me to drop sanguine blades)

[strange kindle]

On Council, do you guys bother keeping dots up on both targets?

[spice spire]

Depends on what’s needed

[thorn fjord]

yes

[spice spire]

Yes

[strange kindle]

Thank you

Any preference on who to use as main target?

[kindred hinge]

You can run w/e you want in 10 and it won't impact your performance in key if you press buttons

[onyx linden]

Whoever is going to be vulned next

[spice spire]

If you need more single target (boss damage) ma TTK is good.
If you have boss spammers but need help with aoe sd sb gain value

[sudden sigil]

Dope,

[marsh raven]

this is from wowhead and is up to date (variants are still cooking AFAIK).
Variants go get TTK and MA for more mono

[spice spire]

Usually beetle

[pseudo cosmos]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[strange kindle]

Thank you!

[sudden sigil]

Also this one i am running

[thorn fjord]

Swaps throughout the fight

[onyx linden]

You only go on beetle if charge is next

[marsh raven]

From there you can get MA / TTK by loosing sanguine blades / sudden demise

[kindred hinge]

You can also get MA without TTK

[marsh raven]

I'm wondering if dropping iron wire can be a good move in groups with a lot of control though

[tender cedar]

So would you base going ttk and ma vs sb and sd on your group in M+ more than the dungeon itself?

[marsh raven]

both

[kindred hinge]

TTK and MA are not linked, you can also change them depending on your sims /Want for gameplay

[true elbow]

Hey, am I doing something wrong if I'm out of energy on boss fights in dungeon ? My damage seems low even withk ttk. (this is my build).

[marsh raven]

If you need big aoe damages run the basic tree. When you want more mono, get ttk, if you want more mono burst, get MA

[thorn fjord]

Longer the fight the shittier the energy regen is going to feel on bosses but it is what it is

[runic hinge]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[kindred hinge]

TTK / MA + SUBT / Lethality/ WAT / SD / SB / AMP /SBS all those points are interchangeable and all the variation are close to each other with different use and slight gameplay change

[spice spire]

I literally just slam beetle until he’s about to phase and then slam speaker p2 and intermission until they phase then slam beetle rest of

[marsh raven]

oooh nice I did not know this bang

[spice spire]

Making constant swaps through dn gets old quick

[winged nacelle]

does assa have a bug list?

[thorn fjord]

Swaps kinda line up with cd's tho so you can swap mark at certain points

[spice spire]

Not if they push weirdly.
Like second beetle charge etc

[marsh raven]

In theory they are all resolved by a hotfix

[abstract warren]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[winged nacelle]

i mean all the bugs

[thorn fjord]

Im not looking forward to progging that fight... The brown circle phase is cancer to my eyes

[spice spire]

Honestly

The hate one of the easier fights clarity wise for me

[cerulean walrus]

@balmy condor just gonna post your toes rq hope you don’t mind

[spice spire]

Purple on top of purple on top of purple on top of purple

Ain’t it

[thorn fjord]

I cant see the outline of the circles its rough

[thorn fjord]

Yeah it sucks

[subtle tundra]

idk man i feel like my dps kinda

shit

but atleast pugs appreciate me

[thorn fjord]

Also on Brood there are certain parts of the arena where the circles blend with the floor and you REALLY gotta look to see them

Shits rough

[cerulean maple]

4p sim?

idk i used the same settings as always, havent changed enchants since last week

[woven shore]

Lol

[spice spire]

No idea why yours is lower then

[woven shore]

Grim batol +8?

[spice spire]

It shouldn’t be

But wasn’t sure

[cerulean maple]

yeah no clue

[woven shore]

[spice spire]

If you had enchants or whatever

[subtle tundra]

i wish i could play and help others

[spice spire]

Last week but didn’t this week

[subtle tundra]

but i barely have time to help myself

[spice spire]

May I tell u something?

[cerulean maple]

im happy bc no more gcd for snd but i have no idea why my dmg went down

[subtle tundra]

ofc

[abstract warren]

How come when I copy Cevarian plater profile and paste it into WA addon it doesn't work?

[spice spire]

I love u I want you to be my sugggar rogue

[subtle tundra]

sorry i have boyfriend....

[fast fog]

Is there KB graphic I can share with a buddy so they can visualize when to press their buttons?

[spice spire]

Because it’s a plater not a weak aura

[abstract warren]

ah shit oyu right

[cerulean maple]

so i was thinking maybe somehow some stats got less valuable than others bc im suuuuuper stacked on mastery, but like... w/ ttk existing now i would think mastery is worth more than before?

[spice spire]

You have to paste into plater

[abstract warren]

lmfao just woke up

[woven shore]

Are you okay bro?

[subtle tundra]

i am ok just no time to enjoy myself

always tired

[woven shore]

I feel you

[thorn fjord]

heard that

[spice spire]

Not necessarily.
In reality rn you just wanna chase gear gains and not focus any specific stat

[thorn fjord]

Find yourself some booger sugar

[subtle tundra]

i want to play wow but i need to sleep i also want to watch the new ep of the penguin

[cerulean maple]

yeah oh whale
ill gain the dps back somehow

[woven shore]

Being a chef in my Restaurant isnt easy

[spice spire]

You need a vacation

[spice spire]

Ye glhf homie sorry for being less than helpful

[runic hinge]

Ask them to buy you bruto

[subtle tundra]

i dont really, but its hard to manage job uni wow gym and sometimes irl

[cobalt sphinx]

i want to chase gear gains too but i don't want my nuts to shrink

[subtle tundra]

i bought it within 5 minutes of it appearing

[woven shore]

Are you crazy

[spice spire]

Yeah I feel that

[spice spire]

Stay natty king

[thorn fjord]

Gym is for squares bro

Aquire a drinking habit

[spice spire]

When you hit multiple wheels you feel real good

[runic hinge]

There’s timelines on wowhead

[subtle tundra]

tomorrow my friends go clubbing
i cant really go unless its i choose to ruin my sunday aswell and then its so fucked

i want to spend time with friends

want to push

[spice spire]

Gotta prioritize stuff king

You’re only one person

[cyan cipher]

Is sudden demise still the strongest for high keys?

[thorn fjord]

When i was single i never wanted to play wow and always wanted to be out drinking (it was the depression) lmao

I can only play wow when im happy irl

[subtle tundra]

i also cant just go clubbing until 6 in the morning cause them in fucked the whole sunday and thats a weekend day i dont want to lose

[fast fog]

I see it now thanks!

[honest crow]

Any of the timewalking weapons any good? Bleed on Barman Shanker?

[thorn fjord]

Just go home around 2-3

Also if you take vaca come to Miami and we'll fuck this town up bro

[subtle tundra]

for fucking sure

[distant birch]

is caustic still working for rasha?

[thorn fjord]

@spice spire Jess is going to Nashville in Dec for a work retreat but im not able to go 😦

[subtle tundra]

but i doubt ill ever have a salary in romania that allows me to go to miami for vacation LOL

[spice spire]

Wtf

[thorn fjord]

Fair

[spice spire]

What part of nash

[thorn fjord]

Not sure yet

[spice spire]

I can at least tell her some neat places

[weary spear]

felt like it wasnt working for me last night idk why

[thorn fjord]

For sure i'll ask her and DM you

Sucks i cant take work off else I would have gone

Just hung out in the city while she was doing work stuff

[distant birch]

yeah i'll run internal bleeding fk it

[spice spire]

Adds have to be on rash’s asshole

To work

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s a fun ass city to visit

Less to live here

[subtle tundra]

oh yea my gym is closing on monday. i have to start going to another gym

[plucky dock]

How does the supercharger talent work?

[subtle tundra]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[plucky dock]

is there a certain CP that gets charged

Like echoing repremand?

[harsh ingot]

i dont think its a certain combo point

[cobalt sphinx]

No it just adds to your next finisher so you can pretty much ignore it

[harsh ingot]

it just gives you an additional 2 points to your next finisher

[plucky dock]

oh shit

ok

[cobalt sphinx]

Or finish at 3 or 5 for deathstalker min/max

[wise mist]

what is everyone enjoying more for keys, oldschool with supercharger or subter/MA

[subtle tundra]

so i watched casualaddicts stream

and uh

he straight up said dungeon slice sim is complete dogshit

i hate this game

(the community)

[fleet mountain]

in M+ What have u guys preferred so far? Old build with SD or with TTK and MA?

[subtle tundra]

MA subterfuge cause its new

[thorn fjord]

It is for some classes

[subtle tundra]

yea but it was in assa rogue

discussion

[thorn fjord]

Oh lawl

[keen spruce]

He was probably talking about it as a measurement for your actual damage

[thorn fjord]

I’ve realized that people who know a lot about this game

[subtle tundra]

nope

[wise mist]

do we have a little rundown/guide on maximizing sub/ma? assuming it ties in with KB window

[thorn fjord]

Tend to not know a lot about this game

[subtle tundra]

he was talking about simming talents

[thorn fjord]

If that makes sense lmao

[keen spruce]

[thorn fjord]

Like I got dudes in my guild that are extremely knowledgeable

Over all in the game

[subtle tundra]

he is going around saying its bad and people should sim 1t 5t 10t etc

😦

[thorn fjord]

But they say the hottest takes when it comes to rogue cause they just don’t know enough

[unreal fern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[thorn fjord]

But why would they… they don’t play the class

[dry ore]

is there a way to shadowmeld and go into stealth mid combat ?

[thorn fjord]

Just blast the chat and tell him why he’s wrong

[subtle tundra]

haha

he does more dps than me!

so he is right

[thorn fjord]

Next he’ll say sub is still the funnel spec

[north tartan]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[arctic cove]

damn, i sim so much higher without SBS and DB, time to say goodbye

[dry ore]

you put TTK instead ?

[arctic cove]

and MA

[sudden sigil]

is SB like good?
Im kinda unsure of it but again also new assa here

[dry ore]

how much dps diff between the two builds ?

[modest nexus]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9yod9oUzntrB6ZZUTvx7oL

hmm, subt + ma sims bests?

[keen spruce]

[brave comet]

can i replace iron wire with either twist the knife or lightweight shiv?

[spice surge]

Its technically possible yes

But i would strongly advice against it

[humble cradle]

I’ve seen lots of discussion in here since patch about cooking new m+ builds. Does anyone have anything new they recommend for the 8-10 range?

[hearty reef]

still consistently losing mark on DB rashanan p2

[modest nexus]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[brave comet]

why?

[spice surge]

Because iron wire is really really good

[subtle tundra]

i finally gave it and went orc

agggh

im a pussy

[spice surge]

Big burst is fun

[arctic cove]

how could u

[subtle tundra]

troll is kinda bad in m+...

its ok in raid

but orc is much better in m+ and a bit better in raid

[brave comet]

well iron wire is only active for a very small percentage of any given fight

thats why i was thinking of replacing it with the other talents

[subtle tundra]

a bit of dmg wont time the key

not wiping will

and iron wire is hands down the best talent in the game to help with not wiping

[mild phoenix]

its a blanket silence to start a trash pack. invaluable imo

[limber swallow]

silence and damage reduction

[still stone]

my first 13 playing sudden demise + 1 subt + 2 lethality and no MA

[proven jasper]

its literally one of the best talents in the game

[mild phoenix]

if you feel inclined to not use it, give it a shot

[subtle tundra]

1% dps wont time yo key

[proven jasper]

^^

ur party living will though

[old sequoia]

this week's affix just eats your blind and doesnt proc airborne right? need to cast it on an actual mob to spread to affix?

[proven jasper]

Yes

[tawdry flint]

are many of you playing subterfuge/ MA in m+ if so how you finding it?

im running 12s and using the standard m+ build atm

[mild phoenix]

try 1 subt / 2 lethal and norm m+ assa tree

no ma or ttk

[waxen oyster]

whats the point of subter

if no MA

[still stone]

thats what im playing in my 13 dawn there

1 subt no MA

no ttk

[proven jasper]

MA do be good with subterfuge

[waxen oyster]

this

[tawdry flint]

more so than sb?

[primal quest]

does shadowmeld work in combat to get stealth benefits?

[waxen oyster]

i personally wouldnt run subterfuge no ma

[tawdry flint]

ye i feel that way too

[spice spire]

No you still have to stealth

But meld let’s you stealth

[normal mist]

Hello

[spice spire]

Outside of boss fights

Hi

[normal mist]

a reminder you can already farm this head and shoulders:

[proven jasper]

[proven jasper]

YOO

where

That looks good af

[wise mist]

2 sub 1 lethality or 2 lethality 1 sub?

[normal mist]

Hallow's end vendor. You need 200 candies total

[waxen oyster]

also can do horseman on chars

for the recolor set

[normal mist]

TWW innkeepers + DF innkeepers + Pandaria innkeepers gave me that total amount

[limber swallow]

why must they give me reasons to participate in these events?!

[proven jasper]

On it boss

[normal mist]

BRO SAME

[half dawn]

are you guys running the Wowhead build for M+ or something different?

[proven jasper]

I wasnt gonna do it at all until you sent that

[waxen oyster]

make an earthen

[normal mist]

i wasn't either

[waxen oyster]

and fly around on it to level it

while getting buckets

[north tartan]

is bubbling wax still not scaling down in the mage tower?

[normal mist]

#1170654455973294110 message use that addon

life saver

[waxen oyster]

royal do you know how tw brd works exactly

[normal mist]

I do

i cleared it

xD

[waxen oyster]

is it weekly reset

or

[normal mist]

(i cleared normal mode pre nerf)

seems like it

[proven jasper]

[waxen oyster]

looks like meh

[lunar dragon]

What would you guys drop to pick up subt?

[waxen oyster]

i kinda wanna get hand of justice on the offchance its good

[normal mist]

Its just a fun activity to do with guild/friends that is NOT killing bugs

[arctic cove]

where do i find this location lol never done this

[normal mist]

for the alliance it is outside stormwind's gates

[arctic cove]

TYTY

[waxen oyster]

isnt it just in blackrock mountain

[weary spear]

dropped SD for TTK can anyone confirm what losing SD is bad for?

[proven jasper]

Planning to do jt with my guild but on an alt probably, dont think anything will be worth it in there for my rogue

[normal mist]

nop, you gotta Q

[waxen oyster]

yeah i meant the og

[normal mist]

oh OG is blackrock mountain yes

[waxen oyster]

the damage on being attacked ring

looks funny

[normal mist]

there's also a 1handed sword with agi proc

seems fun, no idea if it has full stats

[waxen oyster]

that has no mainstat

it might be good for bursty specs ig?

[normal mist]

oh yeah no agi/str

[waxen oyster]

because if the mainstat is allocated into a proc

[normal mist]

Idk how easy it is now that it was nerfed

hopefuly ALTS can clear it

[hollow talon]

Ethereal Cloak no longer grants an unavailable talent. ARE WE NERFED AGAIN

[normal mist]

fixed

thats the word

[tough trail]

double vanish sims higher then sub leth for me, cant play it right tho. any tips?

[normal mist]

you can

[molten flicker]

surely he is saying he is not playing it the correct way

[hollow talon]

How much % nerf is this I cannot believe its

[cobalt sphinx]

like 2%

[hollow talon]

I'm finished

Rerolling ele sham

[cobalt sphinx]

wait till tues to see if they axe it

[hollow talon]

Lightning Rod now transfers 10% of all lightning damage dealt to Lightning Rod targets (was 20%).
Resolved an issue causing Ascendance to send out more Lava Burst than desired to a single target.

ALSO NERFED

Need new fotm

[spice spire]

This is blud’s 9/11

[drowsy hatch]

Buy into spriest stocks now trust

[spice spire]

Already on it

Quakemother is rising

Worst case I’m someone’s PI kitten

[drowsy hatch]

Being a kitten isn't too bad

: 3

[hollow talon]

Everything is nerfed game is unplayable

[spice spire]

#1080572530554835072

That’s the last time before I send the pasta

[drowsy hatch]

Got it

[balmy condor]

Meow

[thorn fjord]

Im hungry

[spice spire]

(This is all jokes promise)

[balmy condor]

Meow

[spice spire]

You know better

[proven jasper]

[spice spire]

Please DO NOT announce to the server when You are going to :3 in ⁠:3 .This has been a reoccurring issue, and I'm not sure why some people have such under developed social skills that they think that a server full of mostly male strangers would need to know that. No one is going to be impressed and give you a high five (especially considering what emotes you've been using). I don't want to add this to the rules, since it would be embarrassing for new users to see that we have a problem with this, but it is going to be enforced as a rule from now on.

[balmy condor]

:3

[drowsy hatch]

:3

[spice spire]

I actually hate ur ass sometimes

I hope yolo gets the skardyns

[drowsy hatch]

I'm just a follower

[thorn fjord]

Oh damn a throwback

[normal mist]

A question since i was using mostly WoWhead hybrid:
I wanted to try subt (without double vanish), do i just take out sudden demise for master assassin?

[thorn fjord]

:3

[spice spire]

Dog wdym throwback

[stiff bronze]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[spice spire]

That’s been used a ton

[thorn fjord]

I havent seen it in a while

[spice spire]

Sb

[normal mist]

aight

[thorn fjord]

I remember the old one

[spice spire]

Sd if you want TTK too

[balmy condor]

It’s sang/sudden demise for ttk/ma

[drowsy hatch]

Take out SD for ttk

[balmy condor]

In any permutation you like

[hollow talon]

pistol goes boom boom boom 手槍砰砰砰 infinite power無限的力量great shame for family對家人來說是極大的恥辱banned by heavenly decree被天命所禁止would do it again會再做一次

[balmy condor]

You could drop sd for ma

[thorn fjord]

Green name asking questions wow

[balmy condor]

Or sang for ma

Or anything

[drowsy hatch]

Or my new cook with is doomblade and sbs for ma and ttk

[normal mist]

Dude, i'm shit at this game

[balmy condor]

World is your oyster

[thorn fjord]

ily

[normal mist]

I'm green because i'm somewhat good at transmogging for sure

[hollow talon]

Ya that's what I did

[spice spire]

This could actually be sauce

[normal mist]

and at repeating what purples say

[balmy condor]

Yeah sims have been spitting that out, I threw up in my mouth when I saw that

[thorn fjord]

Oh dude I gotta get you to rate my mog

[loud light]

I'm too used to sbs, the cp gen feels so weird without it

[hollow talon]

You can also take out 1/2 of Scent and put it where you like

Seen that tech as well

[drowsy hatch]

I think cutting sbs is totally the sauce unfortunately

[spice spire]

But I’d never abandon my goat (bone spike)

[thorn fjord]

gonna tag you in #transmog

[spice spire]

Miss me w that

[stray adder]

no sbs adds 3 business days to your opener

real

[hushed blade]

everyone experiencing stattering + lag spikes when they play? or am i crazy

[drowsy hatch]

I mean really it's 1-2 extra builders

[stray adder]

adds up

[crystal vault]

in 10s where everything dies in 12s, yes its bad

[spice spire]

It’s not the opener discussion

It’s the sbs discussion

I’ve played bone spike when it was BAD

[drowsy hatch]

Well be better than 10s

[spice spire]

And I’ll be damned if I let them take it from my cold dead hands

[crystal vault]

Well, just do 10s for vault 🙂

[drowsy hatch]

But no for serious I admit it gets better the higher you go

[stray adder]

why you repping DSM instead of SBS next to your name though

if SBS is so cool

[hushed blade]

guys everyone having statter or any minor lags in leys?

[spice spire]

I GOT FUCKING KICKED AND LOST IT

[stray adder]

hahaha

[spice spire]

Because mods find it funny to bully me

[stray adder]

did u even try

[wise mist]

without supercharge how many cp's should we aim for with envenom now?

[spice spire]

I cba with asking oxi or whispyr for it

[stray adder]

it's right there in the id:customize channel

[drowsy hatch]

It's still 5 normal 7 with dn

[spice spire]

5+ unless dn then 7

[wise mist]

sweet

thanks

[barren island]

got all happy cuz looted a spyglass

shit is worse than a 619 binding

[runic hinge]

You can go get it in channels and roles bozo

Look at me

[spice spire]

And tell you the last time I used discord on comp

And that doesn’t exist on mobile

[hushed blade]

how to play this dog game with such lags?

or do dps

[stray adder]

just buy bruto

lags gone since

[barren island]

buy bruto

[hushed blade]

its 11.0.5

[barren island]

its bruto

[quaint hull]

binding is very good in aoe. So that makes sense if ur simming d slice

[barren island]

yeah

[quaint hull]

st will look different

[sonic fossil]

Hey guys, what are the best settings to sim assa for dungeons

[barren island]

will test it out

lets see

need to find a 626 binding now :3

[spice spire]

M+ and multiple patch both work

[sonic fossil]

o so the dung slice is fine then

[barren island]

yeah

use dung slice to sim m+

[quaint hull]

gl lmao

[normal mist]

Just did a bunch of sims to try out stuff (dungeonslice with hybrid build)

• https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/svU7hLMtie92znZxJ2wqxy 1.656M
• https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tYW6gTRqNGy9vDmnff1iTJ 1.663M
• https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nDTsQWgcxpbUieSwcJiai5 1,692M
• https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/817sJ28rtpRgdzTNsaxHd7 1.729M

[barren island]

619 vs 626

not even worth the crests

[normal mist]

For the raid buffs, i just went with monk/warrior/shaman/druid/rogue buffs

[stray adder]

do you hate TTK that much

[normal mist]

I just didn't try to sim with TTK xD

[stray adder]

lmao

[zealous arrow]

I'm a bit of a sheep, Are you purposely not TTKing or is it just not as great as we thought?

[normal mist]

let me check without sanguine and WITH ttk

[spice spire]

Why didn’t you topgear and just import builds

[normal mist]

bro

do you think i'm smart

i'm changing my talents and copying the simcode

[modest nexus]

subt+ma without ttk was best for me as well

[normal mist]

im simming with ttk now

[wise mist]

when running subter from opener from stealth should we be applying kingsbane immediately to maximize the MA crit?

[minor dagger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[upper spear]

so on the new Assa build, are sending our CP spender (Env) on max combo points + the empowered CP. Then after that we go back to 5+?

[normal mist]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/a9nps2ztcwBxyQNoB94zG8 idk if this looks like a TTK build or not but thats what i ended up with. If you want just gimme your ttk build and ill sim

I might be green but i'm no theorycrafter and no mythic raider

I'm a super cheep

[keen spruce]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ox547JoUEPZzXvEhPZTjx3

[stray adder]

are you intentionally picking internal bleed over spatter in dungeon slice?

[keen spruce]

idk

ttk stinky for me

[normal mist]

holy

fucking

shit

[zealous arrow]

So this is what I'm running, Is dropping TTK for sanguine the move now?

[normal mist]

I DIDNT NOTICE

WTF

aight ressiming everything

brb

[robust heart]

https://i.imgur.com/bDQcpnD.png does it looks ok ? SV +8

[barren island]

yes

[normal mist]

I'm tired

[zealous arrow]

Ight thanks

[normal mist]

don't judge me

[barren island]

sanguine > ttk

[stray adder]

You need a coffee first

[normal mist]

thanks brother you kinda saved my sanity

how dafuq did i had that shitty talent there

[strange python]

I’m going to try this tonight

[barren island]

swap

try mine

is better and bigger

[strange python]

Eh I’ll try both

[zealous arrow]

What I had felt fine, I'm curious to see how Mylker feels compared to it

[humble verge]

the gems still used is masterful ruby right?

[barren island]

ttk helps a little bit on bosses, not much

sanguine helps A LOT on packs

[zealous arrow]

I can see that yeah

[upper spear]

what is this cook? new M+ build? is this simming highest?

[barren island]

for me its simmim higher than other options, and feels nice to play

[leaden garden]

am i correct in assuming that chest is the worst of our tier pieces?

[humble verge]

no demise?

[barren island]

demise is poop

3% more dps

[upper spear]

i think its shoulders

[spice surge]

It doesnt matter much

[leaden garden]

ah okay. ty

[humble verge]

hmm

im just running standard wowhead

maybe i should swap to ttk

[barren island]

tested them all

[leaden garden]

i looted a crit/mastery chest piece so thought id use that +4set (currently using 5set)

[barren island]

test them*

[upper spear]

can we just drop iron wire and call it a tank diff

👿

[drowsy hatch]

100%

[barren island]

to grab what

[normal mist]

Alright after a bunch of sims

now with spatter

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6zUiNB4P6ZMbkWezzKS1Y2

[upper spear]

could TTK with your build, no?

[drowsy hatch]

just play with only prot pally

who needs iron wire

[normal mist]

thats my best simming build

[barren island]

wont help a lot on st and the tank will cry

[humble verge]

you dont run 5 patchwerk 2 min?

[stray adder]

try by moving 1 point from sub into 2/2 lethality

[normal mist]

hmmm

aight

[upper spear]

fuck'em 😎

[barren island]

will fuck my run :/

if the tank gets fucked, i get fucked

and i only enjoy being fucked after dinner

[upper spear]

636 tanks only EZ

[upper spear]

wait what

[normal mist]

never did

[humble verge]

its what ive been told to do but

[wide sleet]

Iron wire is fake bros. It cant hurt you or anyone else. Drop it

[normal mist]

in this channel?

[stray adder]

for M+ you sim dungeon slice

[barren island]

https://tenor.com/view/meganleigh-megan-leigh-um-nothing-nothing-gif-2866033700374522253

[humble verge]

no, by guildies and in my m+ group

but then it feels like my dps seems higher

cause its up to 3.6m

[normal mist]

LOL

[upper spear]

number bigger = better

[humble verge]

real

[upper spear]

sim is holy

sim is god

[humble verge]

big if true

ok ill dungeon slice

and see what i get

[normal mist]

Sims take into consideration Packs + boss encounters

not literally 2mins AFK hitting 5 targets

[humble verge]

yeah ig

[runic hinge]

D slice is an attempt to sim m+ it’s not perfect but the tc’s do work on it

[pure haven]

would I be able to ping for a vod review for raid? I think my damage is super duper low in raid and can't quite figure it out

[humble verge]

im wondering if i should just go no buffs tho

or atleast like

shaman buff and food/flask

[upper spear]

what lvl keys are you doing

[humble verge]

10-11

[normal mist]

try using the buffs that you usually HAVE

[humble verge]

gotcha

[normal mist]

to be more "accurate"

i per example am simming with a warrior/monk/shaman/druid party

which is my favourite type of party

[upper spear]

i dont like 5pack 2 min because thats assuming you're running ot a pack with all CDs

[strange python]

FoK > Mutilate at 2 or 3 targets?

[upper spear]

Dslice will do packs with and without CDs

[normal mist]

3

[humble verge]

literally full buff party lol

or well not monk

[strange python]

That’s what I though jc TY

[upper spear]

but always clear the witness

[normal mist]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kZKG4tnXCCdQpYdyXu8Aet

[humble verge]

lets see

what i guet

[strange python]

LOL yup yup

[stray adder]

that's a solid 59k drop

[normal mist]

For some reason yeah

[humble verge]

sadge not having raidbots prem

[stray adder]

that's like 13$ a year

[upper spear]

why subertfuge tho

[humble verge]

i thought it was like

[runic hinge]

It got buffed

[humble verge]

13 a month

[normal mist]

subt + MA good

[drowsy hatch]

subterfuge is the goat

[normal mist]

changes happened

[upper spear]

i know it lasts longer

but i didnt think about MA being up for 13 seconds

[humble verge]

subt actually?

dang

[upper spear]

is that the reason?

[humble verge]

wtf

[drowsy hatch]

yeah its for MA

[upper spear]

mmm

i see

[normal mist]

25% free crit

[stray adder]

and 12 sec iron wire is a nice bonus

[upper spear]

that is a bit nuts

[stray adder]

when you vanish at the bottom of your kb

BRRRRTTT BRTTTT

[humble verge]

wait is that with subt?

the MA

[normal mist]

yes

[drowsy hatch]

yeah that's with subt

[humble verge]

ahhh

[normal mist]

2/2

[drowsy hatch]

its still 6s without

[humble verge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sAzjFTNrTnmMz18NoBwu1m kek

wait why is it 9 minutes

[normal mist]

this is FOR ME my best simming build

[normal mist]

why 9 minutes?

[humble verge]

idk man

gonna resim

[normal mist]

do 5

[humble verge]

do you guys have standard 60% thread uptime

ive just not touched it

[upper spear]

man jsut do dslice lmao

[stray adder]

slice normally is 6 minutes

dont know why u got 9

[humble verge]

it was slice

idk why i twas 6

????

hmmm should i even add BL to it tho

[normal mist]

yes

usually theres a BL

[humble verge]

alright

[normal mist]

you gotta sim a "real" scenario

[humble verge]

you know what, im something of a dumbass

[normal mist]

this is my FAV party

i love melee parties

[stray adder]

I prefer diddy parties

[normal mist]

LOL

[runic hinge]

Mods?

[stray adder]

gotta start somewhere

[upper spear]

come over

[normal mist]

don't complain if you weren't invited

(i wasn't aswell)

[stray adder]

just gotta buy bruto

[normal mist]

Oof

[upper spear]

how do i change talents in raidbots, im not at my main PC

[stray adder]

top gear

bottom

[upper spear]

like a new selection, not something preset

[stray adder]

you can pick whatever build you got in your loadout

[upper spear]

gonna plug in this subterfuge and see what happens

ah

[stray adder]

and sim them against each other

[umbral sigil]

how hard sin to play in raid shit face hammered

[cobalt sphinx]

pretty easy

[spice spire]

Not very send it bud

[umbral sigil]

were getting liver damage tonight lets go

[upper spear]

currentyl simming some cursed shit, plz hold.

[pure haven]

oh hey fella, would you potentially be open to another log review but for raid? If not totally good, just wanted to ask

[spice spire]

Raid much easier

[umbral sigil]

I saw Dr. Poopers typing and thought I was about to get medical advice

[spice spire]

Just post in ur thread big dog

[runic hinge]

I averaged like an 85 parse on heroic drunk as hell

[pure haven]

heck yeah

[runic hinge]

Twice

[pure haven]

only for a type 😉

[quick condor]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[upper spear]

bare witness to my atrocities https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1dxvQ2S73b8EzAYUQxUjug

[stray adder]

you're gonna put that point back into iron wire bud

[upper spear]

XD

3-4% gain by dropping iron wire

CURSED???

[stray adder]

and a -20% utility loss

[iron valve]

interrupts and damage reduction are the tank/healer's problem

[upper spear]

true

[stray adder]

y'all are some griefers

[fair wharf]

This has prob been answered before so sorry for annoying you. But since its optimal now to Macro Thistle Tea to Shiv, do we use 2 Thistle Teas in our first opener with the raid Talents tree? Isnt that a bit excessive?

[humble verge]

forgot to post

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4wggoRJggfHwUAxEdYT6uD

but this is with wowhead

[spice spire]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[strange python]

when you sim for m+ is it dungeon slice w/ optimal buffs?

[spice spire]

Nah I usually take buffs off

Because you won’t have optimal buffs

[stray adder]

if you run with the same group you can cherry pick your buffs

[versed mica]

Using the subterfuge build with iron wire has made my keys so much smoother holy shit

[stray adder]

to match that

[hidden walrus]

Hello backstabbers, do you know a way to track hits on back ? I think my tank mate has some trouble to get in position during packs and he gets rekt

[versed mica]

Silence everything forever

[strange python]

ah ok, i dont run with the same group sadly, its pugs

[stray adder]

I would at least sim with lust because it's expected

to have it

[strange python]

ok ty, i appreciate it

[burnt venture]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[upper spear]

what was the gains on this over Hybrid?

[spare flame]

What do yall think the odds are of us catching a nerf tuesday? I had $5 on a -4% in the tuning notes this evening

[upper spear]

kill the heretic

[iron valve]

not that specifically, but you could probably extrapolate from incoming hits vs dodges/parries/blocks

[umbral sigil]

Coming from a frost mage, the whims of the balancing devs are impossible to predict

prior frost mage*

[spice lagoon]

How is frost mage?

I seen they buffed frost fire

[stray adder]

maybe ask the mage discord idk

[hidden walrus]

I'll have a look thanks !

[spice lagoon]

What’s the mage disc you know

[stray adder]

altered time

[spice lagoon]

You gotta link

[upper spear]

so in this Subterfuge cook, im only seeing a 0.1% gain

[cobalt sphinx]

i think all 3 mage specs kinda suck rn

[barren island]

just let me get my wrists...

[stray adder]

it's always like that

just give us 15 per key

[barren island]

yep

[stray adder]

always gotta be some weird ahh numbers

[upper spear]

maybe you have enough harbinger to boost

[barren island]

[heavy canopy]

How come AoE blind doesn't clear multiple of the affix orbs?

[upper spear]

unlucky

[barren island]

it does

if they are close enough

[dense talon]

Am I the only one who is struggling after the new update?

[heavy canopy]

I can never get more than one

[barren island]

recheck if talented

[heavy canopy]

Skill issue I guess

Ye it is

[errant mauve]

Why would rogue get a nerf? We aren’t that far ahead of the pack are we?

I haven’t seen data other than the outlaw bug abuse which skews the data

[zealous arrow]

You have to blind a actual mob, it doesnt work if you target orbs

[balmy condor]

^

[upper spear]

@balmy condor are you seeing these Subterfuge cooks? thoughts?

[barren island]

pins

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-i-was-there-gif-10950832

[dusty phoenix]

!wa

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[upper spear]

hear me out https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1dxvQ2S73b8EzAYUQxUjug

tank problem

[balmy condor]

yeah

so you're an idiot

[upper spear]

😄

[balmy condor]

[upper spear]

BUT

bigger number????

[balmy condor]

it's the strongest fucking talent in the game atm

what are you doing

[upper spear]

😎

numbers

[balmy condor]

yeah I can see that, you simmed a dungeonslice with all buffs

[barren island]

@balmy condor your plate is broken

or something else lmao

[balmy condor]

turn the fixate script off

[barren island]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

found it, ty ❤️

[dense talon]

what does IDC stand for? I believe IW is ironwire

[upper spear]

i meant sudden demise

[barren island]

i dont care

[upper spear]

was yapping into the titles

[runic basin]

Does rota change when swap to subterfuge build in m+? Or what are good to know

[heavy canopy]

Oof, that explains it

Thank you!

[grizzled geyser]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[timid hound]

Can anyone give me advice on what I can change?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vY9KXL1qhkn7MV5HyFgeHv

[balmy condor]

more item level

[dense talon]

if you are simming ST, go for ST talent build

[balmy condor]

idk if this works

[upper spear]

are you meaning to sim a M+ build on ST

[stray adder]

You sim ST with spatter

[subtle field]

what exaclty does subterfuge do for us now?

[upper spear]

So Subterfuge build vs Hybrid is only netting me 0.2%. does that sound accurate?

[balmy condor]

more master assassin, more improved garrote/iron wire, more carnage

[subtle field]

thanks

[balmy condor]

probably reasonable yeah

[ashen fog]

!build

[dense talon]

I used to keep shiv for KB, do we use it now on cd since supercharged is tied with it?

[ashen fog]

!talent

fuck me

[subtle field]

but doesnt improved garrote apply anyways for 6 secs after breaking stealth?

[iron valve]

wdym, shiv cooldown lines up with KB

[balmy condor]

yeah so now it's 12

[dusty phoenix]

when do you vanish in m+ with MA but w/o without a trace? after MA fades during cds? or to re-spread bleeds during long pulls? trying to learn assa m+ atm

[ashen fog]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

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[upper spear]

Help, my brain hurts.

I simmed Subterfuge change in Dslice, it said 0.1-0,2% DPS increase

I was curious if it was Boss dam or add dam so i simmed 5 boss 1 min, and 1 boss 2 min. Subterfuge came out lower on both. Is Subterfuge better on non-CD packs?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rAprsTuhimrETwrxGaJeFm 1 boss 2 min compare
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k8rHBGNmxLE7NdpJWTrSjh 5 boss 1 min compare

this is VS Hyrbid

[subtle field]

i see

[fervent relic]

!shiv

[spice spire]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

[hasty vine]

o sick

[fervent relic]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[hasty vine]

tbh i'll never get used to feint being off GCD so i just macro'd it to crimson vial for now lol

[ripe orbit]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

subterfuge is better when there's more opportunities to proc it (like stealthing) [like in dslice] {that doesn't happen in sustained sims}

[grizzled geyser]

I mean, you are simming fights without restealths and with 1 vanish charge, when subterfuge only gives benefits when you actually gain the effect (and longer MA therefore), while DSlice lets you stealth bewteen packs I assume

[upper spear]

so assuming we have a tank that makes it very tough to get restealth, we might not be outputting as much

does the sim give us a restealth every pack in Dslice?

[hasty vine]

first dslice sim i checked has 4 natural restealths

[balmy condor]

true

[hasty vine]

not sure how much it varies

[spice spire]

Isn’t it a 6m sim

[balmy condor]

well if you're "checking" a sim

I assume it's reporting back the averages

cause that's what those numbers do

[hasty vine]

oh no i just opened the sample sequence table and counted lmao

[balmy condor]

what

[hasty vine]

LMAO

my bad it's been a minute

[subtle field]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFRRBUVYmFBCQRNVUVVFEZEQFKFUBFEVVVUCEA

this build is taken from raider io top rogues, is subterfuge worth it without Master assassin?

[spice spire]

4 vanishes in over 6 minutes tracks

[hasty vine]

average execute of stealth is 6.3

[balmy condor]

yeh so 1 at the start for the boss

and then 5.3 restealths

[runic hinge]

Simming with augment rune

Jeff bezos

[hasty vine]

still using the DF perma augment rune

not like it really matters if it doesn't change how you play

[runic hinge]

Yeah same

[wise plover]

does mutilate help ramp kb faster? im wondering if i should by using mutilate over FoK during kb window in AOE

[balmy condor]

by technicality of it hitting twice, yes

does it matter? no

over 90% of the poisons you apply during kingsbane come from auto attacks

[wise plover]

okay tyvm

[charred helm]

if you run MA it'll prob even be slower due to FoK applying poisons on crit

[zinc field]

is anyone else having issues uploading whispyr's plater?

[upper spear]

is there an opener vid for Subterfuge? Or we just playing the same way and soaking MA

[mossy sundial]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[mossy sundial]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[tawdry gulch]

!shiv

[zinc field]

the string wont paste in plater for me

[spice spire]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[gloomy otter]

are you guys preffering m+ builds with or without bones

[tawdry gulch]

i find bone more fun

for 12/13s

[sonic fossil]

Guys do you know if we use Supercharged combo points on 5 or only on 7

[hasty vine]

extra question, should you use supercharger finisher on 3 cp

[blazing pumice]

you don't play around supercharger

you just play normal

don't think about it

[hasty vine]

surely there's minmax now that it works with deathstalker

[sonic fossil]

Hmm okay thanks, cause I've been trying to use it on 7 with Darkest Night procs

And also idk if double sub or 1 sub one supercharge is better for m+

Nvm that's bs you can't even do that just supercharge vs subter

[cobalt sphinx]

Yeah i assume it’s make sense to finish on -2 with deathstalker

[balmy condor]

it doesn't make a difference

[cobalt sphinx]

The damage difference is probably very close to zero

[balmy condor]

it also just like

doesn't happen

nearly as often as you'd think

[mossy sundial]

anything 5+ works I think

its all comes out to about the same in the long run

[sonic fossil]

Aight

[stray adder]

World of Warcraft has begun once again

[lucid silo]

i wonder if i should open wowhead

[runic hinge]

Some people on Reddit told me that game is bad

[balmy condor]

true

[cobalt sphinx]

Revenue is higher than ever

Must be doing something right

Jurassic park

[runic hinge]

Luckily just leaf eaters

[upper spear]

i spent months farming my long boy

only to get shown up by trust fund babies

[odd bloom]

you didnt convert gold to battle.net balance to buy it?

oh well

[upper spear]

i sold 5 masks at 100k a pop

closer to 50k towards end of Xpack

[humble verge]

posted this earlier

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4wggoRJggfHwUAxEdYT6uD

can probably fix a lot of stuff here

tree

[upper spear]

no Skardyns

[cobalt sphinx]

No ttk ma sub = i sleep

[humble verge]

dude

im on like

[stray adder]

skardyn? never heard of that

what is it

[humble verge]

30 runs atleast

:(

[lucid silo]

i think ive run grim batol like 40 times and only seen 1 guy get it who was useless the whole run

[humble verge]

well omw to 10 grim batol

gonna shoot my knee

[upper spear]

thats the rules

gotta int ur key if u want it

[humble verge]

ive seen 2

hunters.