assassination

[final star]

[balmy condor]

Blindside

[weary holly]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7pBuB97fArLKX36QHiDeQX okay that seems a little less dire then with buffs

[quiet oar]

Only took 1 tset so far

[surreal canopy]

thanks! nothing in the m+ hybrid build though yeah?

[balmy condor]

Yeh the number dslice spits out is pretty much useless too

I wouldn’t worry

[balmy condor]

No

[weary holly]

i know

still 1.4m to 2.1 mil got me a little worried lol

[surreal canopy]

thank you very much

[balmy condor]

Yeh for sure

[rotund oak]

gnome

gl on queen

get them lots

[weary holly]

also playing 3rd boss in siege on hardmode

[wide elbow]

Hi guys, i was wondering if the m+ talents were up to date on wowhead ? (Because I saw some of top raider io rogues with different talents)

[final star]

queen is dead, just not by my hands

[balmy condor]

Big gaknowmuh

[weary holly]

because little characters have to fekking SWIM around the pillar

[final star]

guild killed it a week ago

[drowsy hatch]

theres like 6 builds floating around

[final star]

(about a week ago)

[drowsy hatch]

wowhead works but alts are in pins

[final star]

7/8 forever (rekilling that boss is stupid as fuck)

[balmy condor]

Why do I type when lili is just faster

Doomed

[drowsy hatch]

and im playing league

[subtle tundra]

yes

[drowsy hatch]

get better

[balmy condor]

Sorry to hear that

[real granite]

m+ builds variates a lot rn, but the differences are so marginal that you can ignore it all and play the same hybrid build as before

[subtle tundra]

hope shield and p2 adds get obliterated

[serene solar]

Lili trying to save your sanity

[final star]

the amount of planning and assigns that need to be done just to do the boss is fucking stupid and it isn't condusive to rekilling with different comps

[subtle tundra]

so you can do the boss without minmaxing every cd

[drowsy hatch]

by ending my own

[final star]

remove a silken tomb set thanks

[wide elbow]

So is there any clear winner or we dont know yet ?

[balmy condor]

I don’t need saving from a league player

[serene solar]

League does that to a person

[drowsy hatch]

nah theyre all super close

[subtle tundra]

youre a league player?

L bozo

[drowsy hatch]

custom vs ai go off

[balmy condor]

Excuse me what

[drowsy hatch]

you heard me

[rotund oak]

[subtle tundra]

💀

youre a different breed

[wide elbow]

Ty guys 👍

[balmy condor]

Damn aight queen standing on business you a strange one but you aight

[serene solar]

Playing league willingly is wild. Learning you only play ai bots might somehow make it even more wild

[balmy condor]

Woman knows what she wants fucking damn

[drowsy hatch]

I dont only

but es fun since bot update

[subtle tundra]

she wants to beat some bots

[drowsy hatch]

I did that with dota 2

as well

[real granite]

you can go this https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFBRRUVUmJBCVQNVUVVFUZEQFKFQBFEFVVUCEA if you want to play the new guy in town subterfuge

[subtle tundra]

you should try follower dungeons

[balmy condor]

Real

[cold halo]

Does that count as self harm

[drowsy hatch]

next arc is healing a follower dungeon

[balmy condor]

Why

You don’t have to be this way

[serene solar]

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-gigachad-big-gif-21053844

Giga

[drowsy hatch]

my disc priest is being prepped now

dracthyr pirest

[cold halo]

smite priest?

[cinder bay]

Lmao

[balmy condor]

You can choose to be different, not as in healing a follower dungeon different but like different from who you are currently

[quiet oar]

Im sorrythat this happened to you

[serene solar]

You absolutely pour your milk before your cereal

[drowsy hatch]

nah I eat that dry

[balmy condor]

Okay wait no she’s cooking

[final star]

I like this talent build, probably swap sudden demise for sanguine though, it's just more damage over a key

[radiant snow]

...

[drowsy hatch]

dry corn flakes are just better chips that dont give you mouth ulcers from the salt

[real granite]

what a son of a bitch HAHAHAHAHA

[balmy condor]

True actually

[serene solar]

Thanks I hate it

[cold halo]

Dry corn flakes are pretty good as a snack

[balmy condor]

Sir

Why

[final star]

?

[drowsy hatch]

see not everything I say is braindead

[cold halo]

But wouldn't that go for most cereal

[balmy condor]

So many car

[final star]

I know sudden demise isn't as good as sanguine wassup

[subtle tundra]

dry cereal kinda good

[grizzled geyser]

Improved ambush, really?

[subtle tundra]

wait how

[real granite]

oh shit

[drowsy hatch]

eh corn flakes is just a good example

[balmy condor]

Minor import error, you’re fucking done for

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/im-going-to-stop-you-right-there-stop-shut-up-hush-arguing-gif-13476334

[cold halo]

True but the choco balls are also really good

[real granite]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFBRRUVUmJBCQRNVUVVFUZEQFKFQBFEFVVUCEA this instead, mb

[cold halo]

Forgot what they're called

[serene solar]

You’re COOKED bro. Fired. Banned. Never show your face. (I’ve done this before)

[final star]

in regards to the background, that took a good 2.5hrs of scrolling through twitter and editing them together

jealousy is ugly on you all

[balmy condor]

I look great in jealousy actually

[serene solar]

You could have used all that time to actually cook us a good build

[woeful meteor]

[final star]

I did it's in the screenshot

[balmy condor]

Jealousy has a foundation in exactly my shade

Blends real nice

[final star]

green

[balmy condor]

Seethe

[subtle tundra]

i just wanted to know how to change the background...

[final star]

it's a weak aura

[subtle tundra]

YOU HAVE WEAK AURA

NOT ME

[late ravine]

I feel like zerocool playing with WAT

[final star]

yeah I have the weak aura

[woeful meteor]

https://wago.io/VZbilQXgb

[subtle tundra]

woah thankies

[final star]

you can't use talent tree tweaks with it though

[drowsy hatch]

no zerocool would play with wat and no MA

[sharp wing]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

One time I put a bag of popcorn into a microwave without realizing that it had ANOTHER layer of plastic wrap on it and when I opened the microwave the smoke was like an insanely dark green

I was like 8

[subtle tundra]

whats your favorite color whispyr

pujrple?

[balmy condor]

Purple

[late ravine]

They did taste good tho

[subtle tundra]

i know you

[final star]

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-boy-the-boys-the-boys-season3-солдатик-пацаны-gif-26083230

why on earth is there russian on this

[woeful meteor]

gz on ansurek kill, how does Sin perform in P2 compared to Sub?

[final star]

I should've watched it all

[serene solar]

Reminds me of the time I made easy mac but forgot to add water and it just melted and smelled terrible for like 2 days. I was old enough to be ashamed

[balmy condor]

Trying to sway the election again bro

[final star]

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-boy-the-boys-jensen-gif-26046944

2 parter

[subtle tundra]

depends on your assignments
i had first portal so i did 0 dmg first platform
but 2nd platform was kb and it was good spatter

[hexed frost]

how can i sim difference races (not being racist)

[subtle tundra]

and 3rd platform its not bad to kill smallies

[hexed frost]

[subtle tundra]

you cant compare assa to sub

cause they have diff dmg so they get diff assignments(if raid leader is smart ofc)

[drowsy hatch]

big if

[final star]

Sub is a bit different now anyway

[subtle tundra]

i was told to look at frost dk pov

[woeful meteor]

ok ty

[balmy condor]

The first time I ever made rice I didn’t realize it needed to be like submerged in water, but I was old enough to realize it was burning, so I started running back and forth between the stove and the sink filling a glass of water and dumping it into the pot like one of those old timey cartoons that have a firefighter with a bucket

[balmy condor]

There’s a race= line in your simc import, change that

[final star]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-fire-panic-blow-gif-4531289

[balmy condor]

Or there’s probably something if you use the search in #tc-research

[woeful meteor]

copy below your simc input in advanced

[balmy condor]

Yeah there

That works

[woeful meteor]

doesn't have earthern cause it's from df but they suck

[sick scarab]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[woeful meteor]

and no dracthyr

[sage cosmos]

Can someone enlighten me if im dumb - Why does lightweight shiv never sim higher than iron wire in any scenario?

[royal lantern]

lies

[woeful meteor]

it does

[grand trail]

is itr worth to always build to max cp with DN or with supercharger now working we can do max-1 if we land there?

im always really madge pressign builder at max-1

[balmy condor]

Whichever you prefer

It’s all equal

[royal lantern]

ignore that supercharger exists

tbh

[balmy condor]

Yep

[royal lantern]

just play and get some bonus cp

weird as fuck talent, idk

[real granite]

real question is tho, why lightweight shiv

[past panther]

i kind of miss echoing rep already

it smoothed out low energy times

[final star]

but we have more energy now

than we did with ER

[sage cosmos]

Im just sending builds combinations into sims for shits and giggles, but it never comes out on top of iron wire

[final star]

[oak tangle]

i managed to burn a microwave safe dish when i was cooking rice

[royal lantern]

ngl

this version of assa plays horrible

[final star]

it's better

than it was literally last week

[royal lantern]

just mindless mut mut envenom spam

all the time

[past panther]

ya it still feels fine just a lil diff

[final star]

pressing button more fun than waiting to press button

[real granite]

it should

[past panther]

sound like an outlaw main in disguise

[woeful meteor]

mut env spam good

[past panther]

shun the betrayer

[drowsy hatch]

I just play for the brutosaurs man dont even worry about the spec

[sage cosmos]

I know that's why I'm looking for an explanation 😂

[final star]

I am the #1 outlaw hater

and that's very well known information

[past panther]

i don’t think you’ve ever met me

because fuck outlaw

[real granite]

link the sim results

[past panther]

and everything blizz has done to trash that spec

[serene solar]

Yeah fuck those guys

[final star]

@midnight mist please confirm my outlaw hater credentials thanks

[past panther]

lol

i believe you

[final star]

generational hater fr

[drowsy hatch]

sims secretly make iron wire count as damage to make people take it

[royal lantern]

i dont belive what the french man says

[serene solar]

Guys I started as outlaw but can play all 3 specs now. Currently assa, please don’t banish me

[final star]

sure but that's just because he happens to be french AND an outlaw player

[serene solar]

Crazy combo

[final star]

I don't throw subhuman around often but that is possibly it (joke)

[serene solar]

Sometimes I forget my name is yellow. Then people make jokes about yellow names and I get sad

[past panther]

i can also play all three but outlaw feels like poopoo

[royal lantern]

mate i dont even remember where you change the name color

[glacial crypt]

Same hehe

[serene solar]

Same. I found it once but then decided to just stay yellow since it’s where I started

[past panther]

It’s like the very top room

[glacial crypt]

Gna be real I learned assa rotation as we were pulling first boss on heroic week and haven't touched sub or otl at all this season

Do have the fist weapon set from princess ready to OS though

[sage cosmos]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aJpT3vKMiuYYCrVCDR8ytk

Just cleaned up the whacky builds here's just 2 compared

[limber abyss]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[subtle tundra]

what if iron wire got hard coded some dps to make people more inclinded of getting it

id believe that

[serene solar]

Give it flensing knives

[lavish bane]

does sin pull always for 2 evenon back to back? or pool only before using 2min cds?

pull = pool

[subtle tundra]

it doesnt pool

youre welcome!

[honest night]

!sim

[hexed frost]

no dracthyr?

[woeful meteor]

oh true those exist now

[raw swan]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[woeful meteor]

1 sec

[woeful meteor]

copy="Dracthyr"
"race=dracthyr"

no clue how eathern works they have diff names based on the gems you eat or something like that

[hexed frost]

earthern look like dollar story dark iron dwarves

No way i'm playing them

too ugly

[drowsy hatch]

Im pretty sure those gems act as food

[woeful meteor]

ye, but the name for sim isn't just "eathern"

and not sure where to look for the correct names

[drowsy hatch]

oh gotcha

[warm vortex]

Simmed shiz and found out i don't need anything that isnt from a vault for mythic +

feels nice

and the only thing i would need is in my bag :D

[ocean ferry]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[ocean ferry]

how do we make sure to not energy starve in ST during kingsbane? like never dip below 30energy except during CDs, so we have tea rdy for it?

[drowsy hatch]

you really shouldnt be energy starved with the new st build

like at all

at most just maintain 1 envenom outside of cd and youll go up

[ocean ferry]

what about m+ build?

[spice spire]

Macro tea with shiv and you’ll always at least have a tea during kb

[drowsy hatch]

m+ depends on build but if youre doing the ttk subt build then a little pooling before if you need to. Very similar though.

and that

[real granite]

i've simmed lws, scoundrel, imp pois, and doomblade, all of them sims higher than iron wire excep lws, thats the only one that gets a 0'7 less than iron wire

weird, idk why

[ocean ferry]

my issue is i'm energy starving quite a lot

so tea gets autoused

[viral spire]

So did anyone try out subterfuge cook in keys yet?

[cold halo]

Yes

[serene wyvern]

so what build are you guys playing atm?

[drowsy hatch]

subt seems to be more popular now than the previous

[viral spire]

Or did anyone log it to compare yet is maybe what I should ask

[spice spire]

Yeah but if you start with Tea on a shiv during kb and kb is a one minute cd and tea has a one minute cd

[drowsy hatch]

but theres like 5 varying levels of subt builds

that are similar

[viral spire]

Also makes me wonder if MA is actually winning over exsang

[spice spire]

Iron wire provides 0 damage. Utility is too good to pass up

[viral spire]

With subterfuge

[forest nacelle]

ironwire saves keys.

[real granite]

and all ill say is that scoundrel is 2'5% more than iron wire

[viral spire]

Ironwire is massive dude

[real granite]

i know, but the convo was that lws for some reason simmed less than iron wire

im not vouching dropping iron wire

no one is

[spice spire]

Oh mb

Just woke up

[viral spire]

Probably something to do with other talents

[royal lantern]

"a dps talent is more dps gain then a utility talent"

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

very smart

[viral spire]

Maybe class tree subterfuge vs supercharger thingy?

Subterfuge substantially sims higher in slice

[real granite]

did you deduced that you alone?

[royal lantern]

yes

math master

[real granite]

wow

im impressed

[viral spire]

Nah we don’t do math here

We do meth

PhD in meth

[warm vortex]

Is there a build that runs TTK and scoundrel in m+
i assume not, cause of how much youd have to sac in terms of points but im just curious

[sage cosmos]

I've tried comparing supercharger builds aswell to see if it's a ST logic in the dungeon slice etc..
The only sus thing I've found is that the sample sequence table pops shiv on an add spawning, before applying bleeds, then applying bleeds into deathmark rotation

[viral spire]

I mean technically you might be able to drop iron wire and get ttk

Also drop exsang and get dashing

[warm vortex]

Dropping iron wire is

[viral spire]

But sounds yuck

[warm vortex]

yea as you said

yucky

[viral spire]

Exactly

[real granite]

"technicaly"

[drowsy hatch]

I think this is how you would do it

[viral spire]

[drowsy hatch]

if you were

[viral spire]

No sbs

[real granite]

i keep quoting what i dont want to quote

[drowsy hatch]

no sbs is ok

[warm vortex]

Yea
id assume you would do that if you needed to go on some more ST damage with scoundrel and TTK

i keep calling it TTW

which makes no sense

[drowsy hatch]

the twar within

[real granite]

twist the wire

[fresh kelp]

Twist the wife

[warm vortex]

yes to all three

[grim vigil]

am i an asshole if i play twist the knife over iron wire in m+?

[warm vortex]

Also at that point where i have more avoidance than haste peak

[drowsy hatch]

over iron wire yes

[real granite]

i mean...

[drowsy hatch]

better to drop something else

[grim vigil]

over what else could i pick it

[real granite]

its not bannable

but...

xD

[grim jay]

Youd just play an actual ttk m+ build

[drowsy hatch]

sd and sb for MA/TTK

[warm vortex]

I do wanna try this tho tbh
however not having SBS (which is completly fine) is gonna mess w my shoddy muscle memory

[spice spire]

I only play myself

[warm vortex]

True that

[grim vigil]

is the actuall ttk m+ build on wow head?

[drowsy hatch]

im gonna run with sb instead of scoundrel

[grim jay]

You could play me like a violine

[drowsy hatch]

no, the talent logic is in pins though

[grim jay]

Without a trace or 1 leth is pp

[grim jay]

I mean the St is already pretty good with ttk MA builds

Imo no reason to double down

[warm vortex]

Yea fair

was just curious

[drowsy hatch]

worth trying

[quartz osprey]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[drowsy hatch]

theres a lot of options

[warm vortex]

Loving this

i just like trying the options atm

especially now that i can't get anything else from m+ minus vault
It means i can chill and run whatever 10s or 11s or 12s i want

[drowsy hatch]

going to be trying this when my m+ frens get on

[warm vortex]

Im gonna try this one

i mainly pug atm, but i can try some silly ones with friends later

maybe fatebound

[real granite]

i dropped blackjack a week ago and ill tell you

life is much better

[spice spire]

I tricks for pugs

[real granite]

in the end

[drowsy hatch]

my tank is human

its ok

[real granite]

you dont blind for tank def

you blind as aoe stop

[spice spire]

False bestie

I blind to clear balls

[real granite]

so the dmg reduc is almost always wasted

[spice spire]

[grim jay]

No sbs imo is insanely cursed on keys below like 13

[drowsy hatch]

i mean i use it as a stop first but i think it helps

[real granite]

it ends wasted for most of it most of times, in my experience

[warm vortex]

Yea i take trix for pugs

[drowsy hatch]

i dont think the extra fok or 2 is gonna be that big of a deal

[grim jay]

[warm vortex]

i reall REALLY need to swap off cheat death though

[real granite]

plus tricks is godsent

[drowsy hatch]

oh yeah mean to change is evasion there

[warm vortex]

Cuase i know elusive is strictly better

[real granite]

i took it back and felt what i was living without

[warm vortex]

But i end up popping CD on some things randomly

and i don't wannja add 15s penalty to keys

[grim jay]

Tricks sucks ass

On sin

[real granite]

what

[real granite]

who told you that

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[warm vortex]

Fuck it

[grim jay]

Ups

[warm vortex]

now that Feitn is off gcd

imma try and spam it and run elusive

[grim jay]

Thought there was a macro aswell

[grim jay]

Most people playing sin for a long time will tell you that

And Whispyr

[subtle tundra]

if i have to blind for aoe stop, most likely next casts go through
and id rather have them do 30% less dmg

[grim jay]

Also mobs always Auto attack

[real granite]

48 out of 50 top rogues all tricks

[grim jay]

Thats their main dmg on tanks

[fringe perch]

who the fuck are you speaking for lmao

[grim jay]

Doesnt mean they are smart

[subtle tundra]

i have never needed tricks when playing with humans

[grim jay]

Certainly not you

[subtle tundra]

though the pug bots did complain

[grim jay]

Like that one asian that called Whispyr chicken leg Thief?

[balmy prism]

pretty sure you drop a fuckton of ST by not going TTK here but should be fine in lower keys

[subtle tundra]

i dont think TTK alone is that much st

ttk shines when you have a lot of energy

[real granite]

varas is one of the 2 rogues using bj

it does not count

[subtle tundra]

which is true on st, cause blindside + dashing

[lime pelican]

any ttk m+ setups

[tacit otter]

hes probably also one of the few with a brain (sometimes)

[subtle tundra]

id like to sim that

[grim jay]

Again, just because they are up there doesnt mean they are making any educated decisions

[drowsy hatch]

id be curious to see how much theyre tricksing

[grim jay]

One thats always around the top is feelycrafting 90% of the time

[halcyon merlin]

Any gamers in here have a weak aura for tracking twist the knife? 🙂

[subtle tundra]

im also one of the few that actually has played assa m+ in high keys before!

[real granite]

pretty much every pull, allows them to dot all when the pull is coming to the tank

[maiden pewter]

https://wago.io/lcM4ssa54

[grim jay]

Very true

[spice spire]

Idk I remember the sub arc

[ocean ferry]

mhm with the old m+ build. is it normal we energy starve in st? and should i prevent tea from autoTrigger or not?^^

[grim jay]

Can do that without taking aggro if your tank has half a brain aswell

[drowsy hatch]

mm yeah im not worried about it then

[subtle tundra]

and the monk arc?

[grim jay]

Bcs sin barely generates aggro

[spice spire]

Oh fuck

[real granite]

you gain enought globals also help tank to get pull together and allows you to silence them without getting aggro

[grim jay]

Just like without Tricks

[real granite]

nope, first garrote tick ur ded

[spice spire]

You say this and I’ve still yoinked from bad tanks

There’s a very operative word here

[subtle tundra]

ive had title on 3 diff specs, and probably outlaw too if season 1 SL had title introduced

[grim jay]

Yeah funnily I do this all the time

[tacit otter]

ye i remember that time really well... maybe copied everything you did but pssh

[grim jay]

And never die

[subtle tundra]

im not proud of outlaw

[grim jay]

I only yoink aggro on CDs

Tricks is over by then

[real granite]

then ur not garroting bodypulled mobs

[subtle tundra]

!??!? why you link that and not r1 or r2

[tacit otter]

nah thats me when you were r1

[drowsy hatch]

well sorry for starting this debate im cool with bj good night

[amber brook]

Can you recraft an embelished weapon into an unembelished one?

[subtle tundra]

ah

[subtle tundra]

you should copy the top players

[grim jay]

Im garroting whatever is there and a decent tank for one doesnt body pull only ever, unless he runs was through and you neither need to nor should open already

[grim jay]

Its reoccuring anyways and people get told the same all the time

Dw

[subtle tundra]

youre cool with blowjobs?

weird thing to state publicly

but ok

[tacit otter]

back then i could trust the r1 assa players, not like nowadays...

[spice spire]

Never trust anyone

Especially yourself

[subtle tundra]

back then you had a set in stone talent....

[empty pagoda]

what do you guys think of this. 1 point only on scent. It's simming higher on dungeon slice

[tame valve]

Would anyone be able to read the logs and timelines? Please, is it possible to come in private?

[real granite]

they do though, they pull 1 mob from packs with taunt or throw or whatever and wait for them to stack

[drowsy hatch]

That would be the least suggestive thing I've said

[velvet bridge]

!wa

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[grim jay]

Less prio for small gain

[fringe perch]

Play with better tanks

[untold stone]

anyone else feels like assa is a bit "laggy" now? when fan of knives, and envenom etc, applying garrote from stealth, it likes does not feel as smooth as before?

[real granite]

top world tanks must be better tanks... ok

[fringe perch]

check your outdated weakauras and addons, it shouldn't feel laggy.

[real granite]

xD

[drowsy hatch]

If I'm pulling stuff off my tank I'll take tricks but my tank is my goat so it seems ok

[untold stone]

could be maybe

[empty pagoda]

why less prio? sorry i'm new to assa

i'm playing around 11 atm

[ocean ferry]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[amber brook]

sometimes

[fringe perch]

for real if they're body pulling and "waiting for things to stack" they need to re evaluate what they're doing

[vocal widget]

Is there any reason for mark to not have its own button?

[grim jay]

Thats no bodypull and even in that case I never had any issue if I just garroted them. If you do however rupture them with sbs its your own fault for being greedy, which isnt worth sacrificing DR for

[real granite]

i would like for you to link clips on how do they make big pulls on 15 and 16, do you think they can aggro pulls that are coming from more than 100y distance from each other xD

[grim jay]

And usually people still hit the packs

In proper play

[real granite]

but ok, im out of this

[drowsy hatch]

Well in the end I'm also not doing 16s on a top team

So my pulls are chiller

[fringe perch]

every single tank has something that generates threat, whats your raider io so i can see the tank that you play with that you're claiming is doing top keys

[vocal widget]

Idk trying out this spec and sometimes you just play with no hero tree if something bad happens lol

[real granite]

tricks acelerate keys, thats my opinion

[normal mist]

Y'all are missing the entire point

https://x.com/Gingitv/status/1849774543662928110?s=19

Gingi (@Gingitv) on X

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[grim jay]

They start gathering from the pack they are closest to unless they really need to ranged pull something and in that case you cant go there anyways

[normal mist]

Insta mount up

[royal lantern]

its wrong, but ok lol

[grim jay]

Yeah an opinion and not a fact

[warm vortex]

i cant deal with necrotic wakes and pugs

I have failed abour 7 runs with someone leaving

[drowsy hatch]

But if i insta mount then I'm not on my $90 goated mount

[royal lantern]

like, assa doesnt even generate threat on start anyway, its dmg is delayed

[normal mist]

Go to sleep American

[subtle tundra]

99% of the times people use tricks its at the start of the pull

[royal lantern]

and by the time the big dmg happens, the tank is not really fighting for threat anymore

[real granite]

ad verecundiam, no ty

[warm vortex]

I was doing good damage too D:

[drowsy hatch]

I'm in bed already it's good enough

[fringe perch]

sit idiot

[bright tartan]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[grim jay]

But what about the aggro you generate with garrote on bodypulled mobs

[real granite]

excuse you?

[royal lantern]

that doesnt make you sound smart, more the opposite

[ocean smelt]

nah beat this

[normal mist]

Fair now go rest

[fringe perch]

"I don't need to prove myself to you" - guy saying he's playing with the best

just stop

[drowsy hatch]

Fine fine. Nighty night don't let the tricks of the trade bite

[pseudo cosmos]

Depends who’s doing the biting

[subtle tundra]

😝

[tame valve]

Could someone who knows a lot about logs and timelines please help me with this?

[real granite]

you are starting to act like a pag, ngl, you ask me to link my io when i dont actually need to to defend a point, also saying that being top io is not a reason to be right, you contradict yourself and just try to shame the one you dont agree to

[drowsy hatch]

It's a pretty minor talent choice all things considered so don't anybody lose sleep over it

[subtle tundra]

idk if tanks started treating blind as a defensive, which they dont, they would start calling it

[fallen narwhal]

guys should i be using Crimson Tempest on a single target scenario? or not really?

[royal lantern]

like, once again

if VARAS tells you its not really true, you should step back

[fringe perch]

you got me confused with the other guy but ok idiot

[subtle tundra]

TRUE

[warm vortex]

This a good TTK sub build or should i take Sudden and not SBS

[subtle tundra]

I CAN ONLY SPEAK TRUTH

[royal lantern]

cus varas actually plays/played din high keys

[cinder steppe]

is the master assasin and subterfuge with ttk better than without with supercharger?

[subtle tundra]

YOU SHOULD BOW TO ME

[iron carbon]

Doesn't avoid tank loosing aggro when chaining

[grim jay]

No bcs I said the thing about being high rio doesnt mean they are right, noone else did

[crisp pine]

why is it whenever I check this channel there's a stupid ass argument going on

[grim jay]

But I didnt say the other things

[untold stone]

it was actually 2 old rogue WA packs that made it

[fringe perch]

mans cant read

hes struggling

[royal lantern]

why are you doing bigtime burst when the stuff is still getting gathered lol

[pseudo cosmos]

I like how there’s 4-5 m+ builds and no one knows what to play with

[iron carbon]

Sorry, FoK is big burst

[tame valve]

Could someone who knows a lot about logs and timelines please help me with this?

[grim jay]

If your tank loses aggro while chaining you might wanna get a new tank

[crisp pine]

with what

[pseudo cosmos]

Am just running the subterfuge ttk Ma one

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-slugcat-oh-moderators-gif-27512105

[drowsy hatch]

This is fine but I drop doomblade and sbs for sanguine and sd

[iron carbon]

Pug life 🙂

[grim jay]

Never had that happen to me even in pugs

[real granite]

ah yes i have to answer every one by turns

[normal mist]

Same

[real granite]

i would like to know who did you so much dmg irl

[warm vortex]

Fr?
how does the opener go without sbs giving points then

if i may ask

cause im super used to sbs

[drowsy hatch]

You just fok for the 2nd rupture

[subtle tundra]

you do some foking

[grim jay]

No you just combined two different peoples sentences into a wrong context to weave the fabric of your story

[subtle tundra]

foking big dmg

[normal mist]

Foking good

[fringe perch]

go to bed old man

[drowsy hatch]

I actually took your advice varas

It sounded good

[tame valve]

Could someone who knows a lot about logs and timelines please help me?

[drowsy hatch]

To drop sbs

[warm vortex]

so

[grim jay]

Famous last words

[balmy prism]

varas liar

[iron carbon]

Bro, the level of people are kinda low. I stopped pushing for 2 weeks, good players are high in rio now

[drowsy hatch]

Lmao

[balmy prism]

susge

[fringe perch]

cant post links here bb

[warm vortex]

amush, garrote, rup, FOK, rup garote?

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah or fok garrote rup if you need more cp

[normal mist]

I can open a thread but idk if there's someone to look at it

[grim jay]

@spice spire

[spice spire]

Ok

[normal mist]

Quake wanna tag in?

[drowsy hatch]

Should be better the higher key. Sims well for me

[spice spire]

Sure

[nova aspen]

morning

[tame valve]

Ok thx

[normal mist]

@tame valve send the link

[spice spire]

I can thread it too

[normal mist]

Ohhhh

You got the powers?

[spice spire]

I’m special

[royal lantern]

good people dont play m+

[normal mist]

Fuck yeah

[royal lantern]

[spice spire]

Yeah I’ve been threading the logs

[pseudo cosmos]

Ye we know

[tame valve]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/yzJ2cX8CAa7B9HKk/3-Heroic+Sikran,+Captain+of+the+Sureki+-+Kill+(2:23)/Ñilo/standard/timeline

[spice spire]

Oh don’t do the WoWa

Just send the log

[tame valve]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yzJ2cX8CAa7B9HKk#fight=3&type=damage-done&source=14

[normal mist]

I've been playing too much so I haven't been checking this chat.
Being FOTM also kinda sent me away from this channel for a while

[crisp pine]

real

[pseudo cosmos]

It’s calmed down abit

[normal mist]

It calmed down because of outlaw fiasco

[pseudo cosmos]

True and real

[iron carbon]

Bad people being good m+ player ***

[grim jay]

If you are asian I'll gladly be a wowa

[crisp pine]

Now that sin is finally really good
I've been playing 100 hours of Metaphor ReFantazio

Can't wait for us to be ass again so I can come back

[drowsy hatch]

But we're ass now

[normal mist]

Important question:

• are you having fun?

[drowsy hatch]

[crisp pine]

ass(a)

[crisp pine]

That game is so fucking goated I swear

[pseudo cosmos]

Compared to fdk and ele sham were still meh

[grim jay]

You just dont wanna see quake and me daily

[normal mist]

You can go to #transmog or #1170654455973294110 and I'll be there hehehe

Or idk #1262437829150113855

[royal lantern]

game is good

[amber brook]

Can you recraft a weapon to remove embelishments?

[normal mist]

Yes

[pseudo cosmos]

Any oilers buy the new long boye

[grim jay]

Im back in the League swamp between wow sessions

[austere mesa]

I swear to god whoever thought auto use on tea was a good idea should get fired

[pseudo cosmos]

Actually cooked

[crisp pine]

Ah shit man, I'm sorry to hear
look if you need some help, just ask ok?

[normal mist]

We read that sentence around 100 times a day

[austere mesa]

well now it's 101 times

[pseudo cosmos]

Ikr

[drowsy hatch]

Let's just pin an auto tea conversation

[crisp pine]

I made the auto use tea change

[normal mist]

Yes

[crisp pine]

sorry guys it's on me

[fringe perch]

I like the tea changes. I also play fatebound and double vanish.

[normal mist]

Goddamn it khaddel

[grim jay]

It doesnt get better tho. Because the answer always is either learn to play correctly or dont care for the 0.18% diff

[royal lantern]

its the first atlus game where agility is a great stat

Heismay just carries you the moment you get him by fucking the enemye turn Economy harder then blizz fucks Arms warrior lol

[quasi coyote]

god i fkn hate auto tea its so bad and my mark is dissapearing and what build do I play?

[drowsy hatch]

Auto tea bad - it doesn't really matter - but I don't have energy - new build has infinite energy - well I have less damage - it's a max .18% difference

[amber island]

!wa

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[drowsy hatch]

That's every auto tea conversation

[grim jay]

Lies, even the haters know that mark got fixed

[quasi coyote]

frick u got me

[pseudo cosmos]

Imposter

[midnight mist]

gonna be honest i dont think i have met someone that hated outlaw as much as you

[normal mist]

I've seen people totally re gem 6+ sockets because 0.5%

[crisp pine]

real
Actually hilarious when you unlock his royal archetype and just give him the taunt
bosses can't do shit anymore
I haven't fought the super special dragon boss yet tho

[spice spire]

Delete this

[grim jay]

Oh im quite positive I hate it as much

[drowsy hatch]

No

[spice spire]

Buddy we’ve interacted

[grim jay]

Im just not as vocal about it

[halcyon merlin]

If we play MA - Vanish becomes a pretty strong CD no?

[spice spire]

Yes

[quiet oar]

Stealthi?

[fringe perch]

becomes?

[drowsy hatch]

Yes vanish is a real CD with ma

[spice spire]

Mm stealthi is a good one

[quiet oar]

And you are the best

[halcyon merlin]

maybe it allready is, but then im unsure what makes it a strong CD

[spice spire]

Before some guilds weren’t vanishing

[quiet oar]

[fringe perch]

I'll throw hands with anyone that tells me to use vanish for anything but dps

[spice spire]

Builds even

Holy

[spice spire]

Vanish to silence the affix

[quasi coyote]

is mid pull vanish b4 dm real or fake news with ma

[fringe perch]

fine but i'll hate it

[spice spire]

Fake

[drowsy hatch]

Should do it after dm/kb

[spice spire]

Last 6s of kb

[grim jay]

But can I vanish midday?

[royal lantern]

"oh yeha, agility actually has big impact on evasion in this game"

"and hey, the agility heavy character has multiple moves in hie Archtype that reduces enemy accuracy, and the last unlocked class for him just has a passive that halves enemy accuracy again against him"

[nova aspen]

guys, for brood mythic prog, the recommended build does not take imp garr or MA, so the question is what do we vanish for?

[quasi coyote]

fair enough less thinking buff

in reality

[nova aspen]

do we just hold it in case we lose mark?

[crisp pine]

best thing is how atlus knew how broken he is so they made his royal archetype giga cringe to unlock

[final star]

real shit

[drowsy hatch]

Sounds like it

[final star]

then you don't hate it as much

[drowsy hatch]

Like the previous MA less build

[midnight mist]

nah bro

[grim jay]

Im just dead inside and the hate fills the void

[midnight mist]

you guys dont know kieron enough

[grim jay]

So I cant let it out without ceasing to exist

[spice spire]

Wish I did

[nova aspen]

lil bro zac

update nao

[midnight mist]

who

[nova aspen]

u

[quiet oar]

Who asked

[subtle tundra]

guys

its weekend soon

[crisp pine]

gotem

[subtle tundra]

be happy

[midnight mist]

who is nao bro

[nova aspen]

nao is slang for now

keep up sir

[final star]

that bloke who left project to go raid in rwf and then back to project init

[midnight mist]

oh ye

[winged sun]

Zac

[midnight mist]

xd

[royal python]

Flensing knives finally removed 😄

[winged sun]

Did i tell u?

[subtle tundra]

zac your facking french

[midnight mist]

sorry vara

not banned yet

[winged sun]

Big news

[subtle tundra]

???????

[final star]

r2 rogue

[midnight mist]

soon

[final star]

not banned

it's coming

[subtle tundra]

did they delete all the keys?

[winged sun]

Zac

Check dm

Cant send this pic im public

[spice spire]

Zeross

Check DN

[midnight mist]

feets?

[spice spire]

[midnight mist]

nop

[subtle tundra]

blizzard is full of cucks

they like taking it up the ass

hope you get perma'd after you buy the mount

[spice spire]

Dog you good?

[subtle tundra]

the weekend is soon

[winged sun]

Quake

Check dm

[midnight mist]

well

[subtle tundra]

finish work on friday... still have to go to uni

[midnight mist]

what i learned is

that i can buy the mount

[spice spire]

Reporting you as we speak mister zeross

[midnight mist]

and use it on second account

same blizz accont i mean

[winged sun]

?!

[subtle tundra]

exploiter

[normal mist]

Yeah if they are linked is huge

[midnight mist]

so that wont even matter

[spice spire]

Happy for you king

[subtle tundra]

why do i keep seeing so many dexter memes

ahoy

[winged sun]

Zac

Ur an ass player now?

[spice spire]

He’s playing it safe

[nova aspen]

dornogal AKA jurassic park

[spice spire]

Maybe blizz won’t notice he abused the bug

[nova aspen]

[winged sun]

Guys i wanted to ask for a long time on ass rotation

[spice spire]

(I actually don’t think he did)

[winged sun]

Do i need to envenom before my cds in aoe?

Cuz like

No time to waste gcd’s

Things die fast

[nova aspen]

ideally u want to KB while envenom buff is up

but if u know itll die too fast

send it

[subtle tundra]

the rota is
wipe, look at hand, smell, wipe again for safety
dont wash hands

[nova aspen]

i suppose

[winged sun]

U sure it isnt bad?

[glad rapids]

I’m actually surprised no one has made a video with the Jurassic park music while walking through Dorn

[winged sun]

Like its ok right

To envenom after cds

Or before cds is just better?

[nova aspen]

i mean its not ideal, but its better for it to last the full duration

than to be cut short

i think

[subtle tundra]

i have never envenom'd before kb in aoe

unless kb wasnt up

[quasi coyote]

dont forget to slice n dice!!!!1

on cd

[crisp pine]

god I love slicing and dicing

[nova aspen]

i think he mentioned it in one of his videos while showing the opener graphic

[quasi coyote]

i still press it for fun

[subtle tundra]

based

[quasi coyote]

just a fun button

[subtle tundra]

yep

[nova aspen]

"sometimes u wont have time to envenom before deathmark"

[midnight mist]

no xd

[crisp pine]

Honestly pressing Tea should remove your slice and dice buff

so you can press it again

[quasi coyote]

^

[crisp pine]

can't slice nor dice while drinking tea after all

[merry marsh]

im sure this has been asked a million times but running m+ build with single shiv we are holding shiv for the final 6 secs of KB right?

[spice spire]

Yeah

[merry marsh]

ty

[spice spire]

It’s not a GIGA loss if you monkey brain send it before hand

[past marten]

Am I tripping or did casting FoK during the opener disappear on wowhead?

nvm: I am tripping

[subtle tundra]

8!

[spice spire]

But better to hold

[quiet oar]

Hello im Monkey Brain

[glad rapids]

Last week: “Thank god Slice and Dice is automatically cast now. Hate the ability”.

This week: “I still press the SnD key just because it’s fun”

[spice spire]

Same Tira

[subtle tundra]

its clearly sarcastic

[merry marsh]

ty. 8! appreciate

[glad rapids]

I mean comical too

[quiet oar]

TBF my monkey brain treis to use it with DN

[quasi coyote]

I was happy... Until I wasn't.....

[subtle tundra]

🥺

[plain whale]

!wa

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[subtle tundra]

youre outlaw

[quiet oar]

Love me some big ass crits

[radiant snow]

im swapping to sin from outlaw and im getting mixed signals about stat prio?

[subtle tundra]

you cant be happy

[subtle tundra]

she said she loves me

but in a joking way

out of the blue

[quasi coyote]

ok man how do i even change it

[subtle tundra]

-.-

[glad rapids]

I still press it out of habit, had to take the lil guy off my spell bar. I have to say, I do miss it after casting it for so long.

[quasi coyote]

yea ive pressed it too lol

nothing is in its place

[glad rapids]

Phantom Slice and Dice

[quasi coyote]

out of respect

[glad rapids]

Same. It’s been with us since 2004.

[tepid pier]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

Our stats fluctuate

[fringe perch]

Just gotta make a #showtooltip Slice and Dice and not make it cast anything, whack it on the bind and relax.

[spice spire]

It’ll change a bit as you gear

[glad rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[radiant snow]

so what missives do i put on my gear

[quasi coyote]

slice/dice

[nova aspen]

missive of the sim

[gusty mirage]

General rule of thumb is crit/mastery

[radiant snow]

thank you

[glad rapids]

I’m sure they’ll reintroduce SnD next expansion, ability won’t die.

[gusty mirage]

You can sim if you truly want to min max

[nova aspen]

but i just took snd out of weak aura package

[gusty mirage]

@royal lantern punching air rn and he doesn’t even know why

[nova aspen]

[glad rapids]

Where’d this macro come from btw? Didn’t see it on wowhead.

[glad rapids]

The animation reminds me of Henry Cavilles double fist reloading tbh

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-gif-22574298

[spice spire]

Here

[gusty mirage]

You can’t make me check wowhead nerd

[quasi coyote]

is wowhead up to date?

[grim jay]

Imo its fine to milk people that wanna get milked. Everyone thats not buying it has an advantage now aswell, because you can just use everyones ah mount for free

[normal mist]

No

It isn't

[royal lantern]

i was right all along and stil lcatchin strays smh my head

[gusty mirage]

[quasi coyote]

i figured the author kinda iffy

[grim jay]

Wdym

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/justin-timberlake-snl-saturday-night-gif-26491818

[grim jay]

Yes

Id like to have your input rn

[spare shell]

in the sticked posts it says pooling is dead. Does that mean we just full send it all the time without a care for the 30 Energy Tea pro point or any cds? Or do we only use as much as is necessary so that we can keep the envenom buff up

[glad rapids]

Damn got the game genie hacks in here

[grim jay]

Chaining still a thing

Chaining aint pooling

[glad rapids]

Is there a bot command to show useful macros? Or do I gotta use the search feature like a chump?

[grim jay]

We dont have useful macros

[raw lodge]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[quasi coyote]

how would one chain properly in M+ single target with ttk

[raw lodge]

That and a trinket/death mark macro

[grim jay]

Tea macros are ew and Tricks aint useful, so no point in macroing

[grim jay]

Same as in singletarget

[spare shell]

so our goal outside of cds is to keep the envenom buff up as long as its possible but we dont drop it in order to pool energy for the next kingsbane right?

[glad rapids]

Yeah woulda loved something like what Trickster has in sub for tricks of the trade

[quasi coyote]

so u want 2 stacks as much as possible right

without being 0 energy and loosing envenom right essentially

i honestly never really know when to start chaining

[grim jay]

Well if you just chain you wont really reach a point with low energy frequently, you are juggling envenom uptime still ye. For kb you should have decent energy, but that should happen naturally especially with tea

[spice spire]

Check dn pal

[grim jay]

May I?

[spice spire]

Sure king

[crisp stream]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[flat pulsar]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[autumn wren]

I'm new. When chaining, does that mean keeping Envenom up? Is there such a thing as refreshing it too early?

[grim jay]

Well if you refresh early you are spaming

Not chaining

[swift sage]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[grim jay]

Which mostly happens during CDs or bloodlust

Or if you have many blindside proccs

Basically whenever you would overcap otherwise

[blazing pumice]

if you are doing trash in m+, you shouldn't need to pool for kb

and assuming you have dots up, spamming envenom is normal

[grim jay]

How did we just transition from St

To trash

[blazing pumice]

o sorry, i thought he meant chaining trash

[sudden sigil]

What is the poison setup with dragon tempered?

[blazing pumice]

isn't that what he meant?

[grim jay]

No, chaining envenoms

[silver dagger]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cursive adder]

Are poisons still only 1h?

[grim jay]

Yes

Probably wont change

[lilac marsh]

New Rogue question - is Assassination still better than Outlaw in M+ (without using the Outlaw bug)

[grim jay]

The outlaw bug is gone

And yes

[lilac marsh]

Cheers

[flat pulsar]

Are we still able to pandemic the envenom buff?

[nova aspen]

with TTK yes

[ionic flame]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[wanton root]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[royal python]

Any idea about the ban period for the outlaw abusers

[wide atlas]

This is new to the tea rework?

[grim jay]

No, but hopefully a month or smth

[wide atlas]

I'm currently looking to disable to automatic charge consumption. It makes harder to dps. Is this possible?

[glad rapids]

I don’t think anyone knows currently, a huge ban wave went out yesterday so would be hard to know which is for which.

[autumn wren]

I noticed my tea was not auto consuming at 30 energy on raid last night as far as I could tell. Maybe I'm crazy?

[grim jay]

No and it doesnt make it harder either

[quasi coyote]

so with ttk u just chain the second stack of envenom or doesnt matter cuz ur spamming during cd's anyways

[wooden flare]

Either it was already on CD, or you are crazy

[quasi coyote]

?

[wide atlas]

Yes it does because normally I had a charge of tea reload 6 second before kingsbane is up

[autumn wren]

Already on cooldown is likely.

[wide atlas]

And bec of that I lose 6 second of tea

[wooden flare]

Don't sell yourself short

[autumn wren]

LOL

[grim jay]

Oh god no

Losing 0.18%dps

How will you be able to parse

While not playing correctly

[wide atlas]

?

lol

Where should I ask then #transmog ??lol

[grim jay]

Well you for one only lose 0.18% dps with proccing tea automatically after the initial charge

And you play wrong

If you autoprocc

And no you obviously cant disable it

As its part of the talent

[normal mist]

I can answer Transmog questions

[steel ridge]

wdym initial charge?

[wide atlas]

I rather have control of where I want to have my damage windows than just the same every fight

[grim jay]

The one you use in your opener

[grim jay]

Then you can just play correctly

And you have full control

[normal mist]

This chat feels like the UK, always a shitty tea conversation

[steel ridge]

if you macro to shiv like whispyr suggests, you kinda use 2 charges in your first dm right

[grim jay]

Ikr

[wide atlas]

You don't understand what I'm explaining. But what point its to explain you prefer call wrong on me than answering my question

[grim jay]

Idk I dont macro tea

[grim jay]

I already answered your question

As your question was if its possible to disable and I said no

[amber brook]

Just have a regular shiv and a macro shiv next to each other

[wide atlas]

Ok my bad

[normal mist]

That's an answer

[wide atlas]

Yes I didn't read

I don't want to use a macro. If I fight a boss that has a window like council I want to save my teas for that part and use two consecutive

[grim jay]

Which is good, I dont either

Relatable, I like being in control

[arctic socket]

So

[quasi coyote]

some1 rewrite game code pls

[arctic socket]

Killed mythic rash last night, how did I grey parse doing 1.4m dps 😭

[tropic tundra]

adds now count

[real pike]

Adds count now

[grim jay]

Low amount of parses maybe aswell, there were only 1.8k on our rekills

[tropic tundra]

its a cringe shit boss anyway

[slim pebble]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[wide atlas]

I support

[grim jay]

Shouldnt change much as most people wont hit the adds anyways

[quasi coyote]

the adds on that fight die in nanoseconds bro

[tropic tundra]

if there's a thing to fix they should remove heal aggro from the fucking adds

[arctic socket]

Also I tried pre cloaking and still got targeted by webs >.>

[grim jay]

As the timer said Webs in 1sec?

[nimble vector]

parses on add fights are meaningless because the best way to get logs is to have your raid fuck up the fight

[real pike]

There's no point complaining about the tea change in here, even though it's perfectly reasonable to have the opinion of wanting control over your abilities there will always be people waiting to type how small the dps loss is and to just play correctly with one hand while the other is firmly down their pants

[arctic socket]

Webs would cast in 2 seconds and I would cloak

[real pike]

I sometimes wonder if proper egoists get their guilds to lay off the adds so they can uber parse and things like that

[grim jay]

Seems like someone that is struggling to watch their energy bar

[arctic venture]

Guys what u think about this build?

[real pike]

I recommend finishing directly into the tissue, it makes cleanup a lot easier

[grim jay]

Dont like no sbs

[quasi coyote]

sennarth skitterling padders wya

[nimble vector]

it's more likely that fury wars / dhs die in the fight and then the rest of the raid is free to actually do damage to adds for once

[lavish bane]

does sin uses [Poisoned Knife] for some reason?

[marble hemlock]

What are you on about? You still have perfect control over your abilities, the Tea change didn't change that. Well, you're supposed to have control over it, but I guess if you just mash buttons randomly you don't.

[wide atlas]

I loved this emoji

[halcyon merlin]

Am i the only one who is really strugglin with Enerygy on ST? :S