assassination

[balmy condor]

Yeh so it’s dm flip both sides, then cold blood matches that and vanish double flip matches it too

[waxen oyster]

theres a vanish double flip?

[balmy condor]

So like opener you rupture, get 2 flips from stealth, envenom before CDs, if it matches the last flip you’re at 3

And by end of your CDs you’re guaranteed to be at 7/4

[balmy condor]

Yeah you flip 2 coins from stealth

There’s no buff, but the good news is that you don’t play around it at all, so you don’t need to track it

Very cool

[gleaming geyser]

Worm boss dead 😎

[balmy condor]

Grats

[pliant coral]

oh ok! ty for the help!

[waxen oyster]

are they the same as the last one?

[pliant coral]

Ahh i see it's in the pins now, sorry about that 😭 i appreciate you telling me anyway!

[real granite]

is the SD execute dmg working on dslice? also, curious about this one, but is sbs considered a bleed? forget i asked this

[balmy condor]

No the vanish doesn’t match but they do match with cold blood

[waxen oyster]

it is a bleed yes

so counts for lethal dose

That's what dslice was for me, was No SD>standard hybrid>No Bonespike for patchwerk.

[peak saffron]

what acronym is SD

am i dumb

[coral ibex]

sudden demise

[peak saffron]

thanks

[oak tangle]

any outlaws been hit with ban hammer yet?

[barren yarrow]

2215 IO im not gettting in a +7 GB

[bronze flicker]

no sbs feel kinda wierd to play

[barren yarrow]

this shit is annoying as hell

[real granite]

ye, but sd is around 1-2% of execute dmg in my keys, and the diff beetwing sd or no sd in my sims are literally 1%

[coral ibex]

gotta push your key bro

[oak tangle]

2530 io it doesnt get better

[coral ibex]

get more io

[waxen oyster]

get more ilvl

honestly

xD

[coral ibex]

im 2600 having trouble getting into 10's

[fallen arch]

A 7 gb gets 40 sign ups, why would they choose you

[coral ibex]

like

[hollow river]

don't think so

[coral ibex]

10's ive +2'd already

[waxen oyster]

i get invited pretty fast

[coral ibex]

getting declined

[waxen oyster]

at 2630

[barren yarrow]

its just annoying lol

[oak tangle]

waiting for "appropriate action"

[fallen arch]

Yes it is annoying

[icy acorn]

you obviously need an autograph from jesus and be 639 ilvl at expansion start

[waxen oyster]

being 631 equipped probably helps

[balmy condor]

No, the execute is not factored

[fallen arch]

If u want agency, use ur own key

Roll a tank

Or be patient

[barren yarrow]

all my keys brick

i went from a +10 to now a +6

its like why

[oak tangle]

i'll just be arogue tank

[fallen arch]

Probably

[real granite]

then sbs, sd, ttw it all sims exactly the same in dslice, but sd +ttw and no sbs sims 10% more in patchwerk

i think i have my answer

ttw highly upgrades dmg profile without losing aoe

[coral ibex]

ttk?

[fallen arch]

I’m just not gonna sim without my boy Bonespike

[real granite]

twist the knife

[fallen arch]

[real granite]

get over it my good sir, just another double garr or fok once

[coral ibex]

bonespike doesn't do shit in single target which is the point of the ma/ttk/subt build, better ST without losing too much aoe

im considering dropping it tbh

[junior yoke]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[real granite]

not losing aoe*

diff is under 0'5% its literally non existant

[coral ibex]

nice

[waxen oyster]

bonespike improves lethal dose

thats its main thing in st

[real granite]

ye, which is overshadowed by the other options in st also, so

[errant trail]

How do we feel about this build

[waxen oyster]

yeah i mean dropping bonespike was my highest dslice but weakest patchwerk

[barren island]

Omg my eyes why

[errant trail]

this build feels super torture

[barren island]

The image is torture

[waxen oyster]

it feels fine

i just did 2 keys on it

[royal python]

Did any outlaw abusers receive bans

[real granite]

what are yall talking about, that is THE build

[fallen arch]

I’ll drop deathmark and keep sbs

[barren island]

Wut

[fallen arch]

[barren island]

Weirdo

[errant trail]

I mean

ramp time feels

poopy

but

im gonna try it

[waxen oyster]

not really

you move your 2nd garrote

[ionic flame]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

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[woeful prawn]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[real granite]

also the fact that sbs demands doomblade sickens me, im starting to hate sbs

[waxen oyster]

ngl if doomblade didnt contribute to lethal dose

it'd be actually the single worst point we had

[stray adder]

Doomblade is giga ass

[real granite]

i think it already is

[ebon steppe]

Feels like combo points wa needs an update after today's fix

supercharger*dsm dn

[inner light]

whats the minimum percentage yall are going for in Haste

[barren island]

Wait

Thats false

Thats shit

[stray adder]

you run cloak?

[barren island]

W8

[stray adder]

lmao

[distant crow]

XD

[barren island]

this is the play

[crimson current]

didnt liek it

played all day with this today

i didnt think MA get much value since the first seconds i am spreading bleed

[barren island]

It gets insane value

[crimson current]

and since we drop bonespike, we need more time to spread it

so

[stray adder]

oh you dropped ttk

[barren island]

Yeah

[coral ibex]

2/2 subt is 12s of MA

well into your cds

and then you vanish

[barren island]

Not worth it to 2 sub imo

[crimson current]

didnt like it

[barren island]

1 sub point is good enough

Let you keep 2 lethality

[vagrant brook]

what packs you pulling to not get 5 cp with one fok?
when running MA

[oak tangle]

give us 2 more seconds so i can bind vanish to kb

[coral ibex]

[stray adder]

macro vanish kb is wild

[desert pine]

how much haste do i need to run ?

[coral ibex]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[barren island]

2871

[grim cape]

Anyone down to help me figure out why my Ky'veza dps was much worse tonight?

[fallen arch]

2876 also fine

[coral ibex]

1738 minimum

[real granite]

i go with 1939, i liked that year

[kindred cobalt]

Sd buffs alls your bleeds 10% more too.

[barren island]

Or 2923

[fallen arch]

Yes but nothing else or ur griefing

[barren island]

Ttu

[oak tangle]

ay yo WHAT

[real granite]

i know, but that 10% is considered in the sims already, i just need to add the execute damage to it, cuz sims does not consider it

[fallen arch]

I’m mentaly getting over the fact I’m gonna drop sbs today

[stray adder]

change that discord icon

let it go

[real granite]

no es be es, no es be es, no es be es, free us from es be es!!!

[crimson current]

just talented it again fuck it

[barren island]

Sbs > all

[crimson current]

stg didnt like the build without it

[real granite]

my ass > sbs

[barren island]

Your ass must be real nice

[waxen oyster]

it saves you like

[crimson current]

so easy to spread dots with it

[waxen oyster]

2 gcds in opener

[oak tangle]

you guys are not running sbs in keys?

[waxen oyster]

thats it really

[waxen oyster]

i did two without

[stray adder]

150 CAD longboi > sbs

[crimson current]

opening it with garrote garrote rupture rupture

[barren island]

Did a lot of 14s with it today, was feeling GOOD

[waxen oyster]

not opening with amb

[real granite]

dont we have an emote for feelycraft here?

[waxen oyster]

for dsm

[crimson current]

ofc opening with ambush

but after i mean

[barren island]

Dn ftw

[stray adder]

acronyms going hard rn

[fallen arch]

But bro

Hear me out

[real granite]

hear him out

[fallen arch]

Its the one animation we got going for us

And it makes me feel closer to my necrolord brethren

[oak tangle]

what node is giving 3% damage and qol that sbs isnt

[fallen arch]

Uh

[barren island]

If you don't run sbs is cuz u do drugs

Simple

[crimson current]

^

simple as that

i mean, i do drugs and run with sbs

jk

[fallen arch]

Why they gotta do me like that

Give it back for a half patch

[barren island]

Yeah, if you do drugs while running sbs you are a cool dude

[crimson current]

hell yeah im a cool dude

[stray adder]

after running GB 50 times you def start thinking about a lil drug

[real granite]

real chad players all already dropped sbs, dont be andy, be chad

[barren island]

Bro i did a 14 nw with a elemental today, dude melted stich

We killed it on 1 hook

I was like wtf

[fallen arch]

No way

[oak tangle]

ok, but like still, what node is competing with sbs

[fallen arch]

On 14

[barren island]

It was insane dmg

[fallen arch]

Ye I know

I run with one

Its kinda nuts

[barren island]

He did like 50% more dps than me 😦

[real granite]

there is two options competing right now, sbs + doomblade against sudden demise + ttk

[barren island]

On the boss ofc, overall he got cooked

[stray adder]

you know whats better than 1 ele? 3 x outlaw last night

[crimson current]

fuck em outlaws

[barren island]

My friend got 1 month ban

Cuz of it

Lmao

[stray adder]

deserved

bozo

[crimson current]

hoe they get what they deserve

[crimson current]

nicet

thats what i mean

[barren island]

And he had bought the new mount

He charged back

[stray adder]

kinda crazy to think that people thought it was a good idea

[grizzled geyser]

Rip account

[barren island]

P much

Blizz said: no refund cuz this account has a ban

[crimson current]

whats the point of playing it to fake increase your skill level

[barren island]

He called the bank and gg

[real granite]

for real?

[stray adder]

oh a bank refund

hes cooked

[crimson current]

like ur io just increased cause of a bug

[stray adder]

account dead

[crimson current]

not cause u a good player

[fallen arch]

Good riddance

[barren island]

Yep, but it was not his first tho

[stray adder]

actual outlaw irl

[fallen arch]

Is that actually true tho

[real granite]

dunno man, tundrah was exploiting that last night

lets see if he receive ban

[barren island]

He can be lying idk

But he didn't log today lol

[runic hinge]

You do a charge back after getting a one month. Probably just getting perma lol

[oak tangle]

idk about you guys, but bliz can't keep his money if that happened in AUS

[runic hinge]

Deserved for exploiting

[barren island]

Depends on the country

[oak tangle]

we got laws about anti-consumer and refund policies

[barren island]

If blizz retaliates and perma him they are cooked on some countries

[oak tangle]

just ask steam about it

[stray adder]

it's been a controversial last 48 hours for Blizzard

Shit patch into longboi into ban wave

[oak tangle]

AUS gov was like yo steam if you wanna sell in AUS you better offer refunds bro

[barren island]

They need to obey the laws of x the country they offer the product

Their site can say any shit

It's not above the law

[kindred cobalt]

The bans are depending, some ppl who extremely abused the bug are getting more days than others. Imagine if u did 1 key and u abused it its some time, if u pushed alot of keys, raided mythic and keeping doing it after u know that what u r doing is just wrong u get a month or more

[oak tangle]

in saying all this

rip bozo deserved ban

[median oak]

Doesn’t it depend on the store he’s bought it from?

[barren island]

No

[tribal zealot]

Hey, noob rogue here... Every breakdown of the cooldown window i've found so far assumes you have lightweight shiv, but the m+ hybrid build currently recommended doesn't seem to take it. Can anyone point me at a good breakdown of how to properly use kingsbane with the hybrid build?

[oak tangle]

nah i'm pretty sure its citizenship

[stray adder]

when does the alpha test ends?

[barren island]

If the store is selling products on his country, it will obey his country laws

[coral ibex]

shiv the last 7s of kingsbane

[real granite]

shiv when kb is 8secs left

[karmic crystal]

last 7 seconds of kingsbane, on aoe (especially outside of cds) its not important

[kindred cobalt]

Saw this on outlaw chat lol

[oak tangle]

rip bozo

[stray adder]

not enough days

[oak tangle]

this is wowheads fault

[crimson current]

shouldve been banned until next patch fuck it

[tribal zealot]

not enough people being reminded of when the world first raid team got like a 3 month ban for macroing an engineering item to their abilities in wrath

[crimson current]

this is blizz fault

[barren island]

This isn't nothing when some people cleaned a lot of 16s due to this

And that rank won't go away

[oak tangle]

they explain exactly how to do a bugged exploit, on a class full of adhd zoomers who have no self control

[barren island]

Neither loot

Neither myth prog boss

So w/e, nice 7 day vacation

[kindred cobalt]

Yea, i dont know what keys this guy did.

[hollow river]

This is a meme repost

[kindred cobalt]

It is? Idk, just seen that yesterday thats why i said im not sure. But u may be right

[median oak]

But the point is are they selling products in his country or is he buying it from “out of the country” the online page in it self doesn’t matter it matters if they are considered to operate in his country or not

[hollow river]

I know I’m right

[oak tangle]

say what you will about it being bliz fault for allowing to happen, there aint no way it got abused so much without the front page of wowhead explaining how to do it

[hollow river]

No one has been banned yet

[kindred cobalt]

Thats sad then

[crimson current]

i got banned

for still using sbs

[drowsy harness]

Took them a week to ban the renown exploit

[coral ibex]

blizz should ban wowhead's account!

[crystal oxide]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

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[crimson current]

yea they shouldve not explain it

[karmic crystal]

It probably gets it fixed quicker because they post about it though

[hasty crypt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[oak tangle]

i was also dissapointed in seeing a pin in outlaw channel about it too

[crimson current]

even tho blizzard updated the game with this bug that already happened once, no?

[coral ibex]

how else would blizz find out about the bug?

if wowhead didn't post about it

[barren island]

Depends on the country itself, like here for example, if you want to sell anything here you NEED to have local representatives, like steam itself, my friend got banned from steam because one sell that went sideways and it was a mistake, steam didn't cared, he sued them and got his account back, they literally have a law office here responsable for them

[karmic crystal]

less about them finding out about it and more about it being a more urgent matter to fix

[subtle tundra]

it did

they removed keys

[oak tangle]

there is such a thing as communication. posting a bug on day one of it existing is not because a lack of fixes

[barren island]

Removed boss kills too?

[subtle tundra]

uh

not my problem

idk

[oak tangle]

the time to make something massively public is when it's existed for ages and not being fixed

[median oak]

Yeah in that case fair enough

[barren island]

Rip

[subtle tundra]

i care about m+ only

progs done!

[runic hinge]

This man has killed the queen!

[subtle tundra]

the queef!

[drifting cloud]

gz on your aotc varas!!

[subtle tundra]

yea i can join pug groups easy now!

[barren island]

Lmao

Imagine dudes asking for aotc link

[oak tangle]

AOTCE

[barren island]

You send them a CE

[coral ibex]

declined

"thats the wrong achievement idiot"

[barren island]

😦

[subtle tundra]

i do sometimes get into heated arguments and just link most recent boss kill

[naive spindle]

!wa

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[subtle tundra]

and the earlier in the season, the more impactful it is

[real granite]

playing the waterpolo olimpian card uh

[subtle tundra]

if words dont count, maybe flexing will

[oak tangle]

i wanna go do proving grounds so i can link silver tier dps

[lament stump]

lmaooo

[gray flower]

are the bloodmallet sims fucked up right now

[ashen creek]

Pour one out for flensing knives

[gray flower]

maybe its only for sub that its messed up

[oak tangle]

haven't even been using it

[ashen creek]

Was around 2% ST lol

[oak tangle]

my stonks just went up i guess

[ashen creek]

lets us use the better defensive now though lmao

[oak tangle]

in lieu of other's going down

for the meme

of "never go full bleed"

[subtle tundra]

youre fucke

in the

what the fuck is that class tree

what the fuck is a fatebound\

you go king

no kb

keep popping

[ashen creek]

Is there a way to sim mana oil vs whetstones vs bubbling wax? Was using hissing runes until this week lmao

[jaunty lotus]

Bait bitten successfully I guess

[oak tangle]

😄

[stray adder]

that build is something else

[real granite]

beat this

[stray adder]

nah we fighting

put the gloves on

[hasty crypt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dry ore]

got a question here probably im missing something, in the AOE prio list, it says i can cast a 2nd shiv when kingsbane is active (thats what i understood). but i do have only one charge of shiv. how am i supposed to cast the 2nd ?

[stray adder]

you have 2 in ST

[small sequoia]

Hey you guys feel like ASSN is flooded with energy now that you dont even use thistle tea during your deathmark KB window??

[stray adder]

in m+ shiv at the bottom of your kb

[small sequoia]

i literally dont have enough GCD to drain my energy below 150

[stray adder]

oh shit are we back

[rain wraith]

Does this mean finishing at 5 cps consumes a mark now?

im at work so i cant test

[pliant terrace]

you shiv for the last 7 seconds of your kb because it ramps up in damage

[dry ore]

so i dont cast it before KB ?

[stray adder]

yes in ST

[rain wraith]

if u have 2 charges u cast 1 before and 1 at 8 seconds left

[pliant terrace]

you do for single target when you have 2

[rain wraith]

and vanish the last 6 (?)

if u only have 1 u do the last 8-7 seconds

[jaunty lotus]

Getting into m+ with assassination, is there any videos/streams you would recommend to watch post 10.0.5?

[dry ore]

the thing im not understanding how am i going to have 2 charges ? xD

[pliant terrace]

you talent into it

[rain wraith]

in ST spec u have 2

in M+ u dont

[dry ore]

aaaaaaaa

okay okay i got it, cuz im using AOE talents and wondering where is my 2nd charge xD

thanks ❣️

[whole stratus]

Why is it recommended to craft belt/wrist and not belt/boots for example? Cause boots should give more stats than wrist at the same ilvl right? Sry if noob question but this has been bothering me xd

[stray adder]

I mean there is clearly an error in the AoE apl

[bitter badger]

max crafted lvl is 636

[rain wraith]

Just craft whatever that gives u the best stats

[bitter badger]

so there's a chance you're going to get 639 gear that has higher overall stats

[uneven crag]

Does airborn irritant work as an AOE for clearing the affix for this week? It seems to only be interupting one orb?

[bitter badger]

blind on a mob

so it'll splash, otherwise it'll only destroy one orb

[uneven crag]

ohhhhh okay, that makes sense

[wary musk]

That is so annoying tho

no way it's intentional

[pliant terrace]

it does that because the blind "kills" the affix mob before it has a chance to splash

so you have to blind something that'll live

[uneven crag]

agreed

[whole stratus]

Ohhhh i see ur way of thinking, that's actually pretty smart. But I might just go for the immediate gain instead and craft boots, not sure :D

[small sequoia]

ya don't blind the orb, blind a mob +1

[wary musk]

What if all the mobs are dead and everyone has their thing on cd and u have blind up but u kinda just sit there like 🤷‍♂️

[dry ore]

can anyone send me a pic of his action bar when in stealth ?

[dim yacht]

you kick one, you kidney one. then you cry

[golden loom]

same as regular just mutilate switched to ambush

[small sequoia]

yeah, wedont have utlilty for it, unless you're a dracthyr rogue, then you can wing buffet

[stray adder]

false

aoe blinbd

it doesnt work 9/10 times

[wary musk]

Guys I need someone to pls tell me what conditions need to be met in order to shadowmeld and stealth in combat ( outside of bosses ofc) It works like 50% of the time

[stray adder]

but still

[bitter badger]

yeah you can still replace it later if you got myth track items

[scenic kiln]

you can aoe blind so long as the primary target is a real enemy

[subtle tundra]

it works 10/10 times

[scenic kiln]

and it works pretty consistently

[small sequoia]

it works 100% of the time

i think the question was, what if there was no mobs left, and the affix kicks in

[scenic kiln]

oh

theny ou suffer

[bitter badger]

unless the mobs are in brazil, aoe blind works all the time

[real granite]

if there is a detecting eye mob the pull, get away from the pull and meld, will increase your % of meld succes

[scenic kiln]

or switch to belf

[subtle tundra]

unluigi

[scenic kiln]

or have more useful classes in your party

[small sequoia]

LOL

bro

[wary musk]

yooo true. Didn't think of that

[real granite]

still, i dont think its that good except if you lost your mark

or maybe if you on 2/2 subt

dunno about second

but losing uptime with spatter is big, consider that

[wary musk]

Yeah Ik I mostly just use shadowmeld to restealth if the tank is stoopid and chain pulls like crazy

and to avoid mechanics

[real granite]

get used to it, tanks should still chain, if they chain properly

[bitter badger]

shadowmeld when you're fixated by the adds from third gb boss

let it become other's problem

[crisp stream]

Why sometimes fok gives 1 cp when there are 3 mobs

[wary musk]

Idk about that tbh. My damage on pulls where I have to spend so many globals applying dots is so pathetic I think just letting me restealth is better

[bitter badger]

fok only gives baseline 1 cp, only if you crit you get more cp

[real granite]

this was a debate some time ago

[wary musk]

Shadowmeld necrotic wake final boss and send someone else down 😄

[real granite]

no stealth won the debate

xD

[wary musk]

And then u save vanish to do it again

:^)

[bitter badger]

stand back and spam stealth keybind

[real granite]

4 ppl doing big aoe is worth, instead of you making the party hit 3 half dead mobs cuz u want to restalth

its a clear case of it is what it is

[wary musk]

Yeah ig that's true, but that's where shadowmeld comes in clutch

but I mean

irown wire is op af

so wouldn't the tank wanna let me restealth?

[real granite]

if he's about to pull like, the pulls from db that cast a lot, he should consider that if he wants aoe silence

if not, well, its his thing

[cerulean walrus]

!restealth

They removed it

Fuck

It’s a point as old as time itself

[real granite]

even with MA and subterfuge changes its still true

[cerulean walrus]

Your restealths don’t matter just get better at hitting the tab key

[real granite]

it do matter tho, it just dont matter enought

[cerulean walrus]

Also yes just hang back for 2 seconds

And you won’t be in combat with the next pack

Crazy I know

But the tank doesn’t have to wait for you lmao

[subtle tundra]

its so cool to do aoe until the fdk and ele pop cds and you do 0 dps

[wary musk]

Yeah I do that, but sometimes the tank will do this: Pull two or 3 mobs. I wait to see if he pulls more, he doesn't then I'm like ok lets blast

and then he chain pulls the two mobs at 70% health to the bigger pack

.....

[real granite]

if a tank pulls a pack of 3 i would iron wire him irl

[wary musk]

And now I dont have anythng for the bigger pack

I can't count how many time that has happened to me. A tank just randomly stops to hit two mobs down to 70% then he randomly goes to pull more

I mean i can't read his mind

[real granite]

ye thats not how you chainpull

[wary musk]

That's why going duo with a tank and asking him in comms is a game changer

[real granite]

only dks have a pass for doing that

[visual vault]

this is infuriating at least pull 5 kek

[real granite]

anyways, if you checked his mdt link that should not happen

[wary musk]

Funny of you to assume they have routes xDDD

[real granite]

if he didnt linked mdt, the key is probably low enought for it to not matter

[wary musk]

I had a tank join my 13 key and the healer asked for the route

dude said he doesn't have one

[real granite]

well yeah ig

ratting inflation being real

[wary musk]

On god

That being said

anyone miss the previous affix?

I loved it compared to this one

[rotund oak]

deathstalkers mark working

oh its on pins

cool cool,very good news!

[wary musk]

They finally got the money to fix the game after the new mount ya know

[rotund oak]

[wary musk]

Shit made them probably 3 times as much as the expansion

[stuck rampart]

People buy mount and be happy, token price goes up

[weary spear]

hybrid build boss damage feels rough in higher m+ . is anyone running a different build or ttk ??

[real granite]

im running ttk, and boss dmg feels def higher than hybrid

[narrow siren]

u running dashing scoundrel ?

[weary spear]

does it feel like a big damage loss in aoe ?

[real granite]

its the same

[weary spear]

no scents of blood or ?

[real granite]

what no ew

[real granite]

no scent of blood is illegal

from hybrid, you can drop sbs and db for ttk and ma, or drop sd and sb for ma and ttk

[spiral magnet]

Anything bis from new raid

[cerulean walrus]

No

[dry ore]

how do you guys maintain Rupture on 5 targets when u dont have a way to get back to stealth ?

[real granite]

imo, the best option is to drop sbs, im a sbs hater, but test your shit

[real granite]

you tab out

[cerulean walrus]

Tab key

[stuck rampart]

yeah im currently checking my sims to see if dropping sbs or sd works better

[dry ore]

you just target them one by one " fan of knives - rupture " ?

[dry ore]

alr

is there anyway to track how many enemies got the debuff ?

[subtle tundra]

i tried ttk + dashing, was feeling a bit better

idk how much aoe i was losing

[dry ore]

i dont think counting them one by one is a good idea xD

[weary spear]

what did you drop?

[stuck rampart]

You could WA it

[cerulean walrus]

Just use a weakaura package lmao

[subtle tundra]

i would play no sbs

[dry ore]

yeah i do, but it shows only the target

[real granite]

you could make a weak aura that tracks multi-target or nameplate

[stuck rampart]

^

[zealous tundra]

does this feel more or right close to good aoe? can someone advise please
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mnGxexCQcVfqd6Bvrk58kY

[stuck rampart]

I have mine show up on my plater so i can see them all

[real granite]

if you track nameplate consider that if the nameplate its not on the screen , it will not track it

[weary spear]

ty will try that. rip my openers

[subtle tundra]

its alright with subterfuge

[real granite]

in which way dashing felt better?

st? energy?

[subtle tundra]

st dps and energy, but could definetly be all in my headd

[static fable]

theres any WA for ToT working?

[stray adder]

u run dashing in keys?

[subtle tundra]

dashing has synergy with ttk

[stray adder]

wild

[subtle tundra]

i tried 1 key

and guess what

it doesnt fucking matter

[real granite]

what did u drop?

[subtle tundra]

i will kill myself!

i dont recommend

it

[stray adder]

gotta keep varas in check

[subtle tundra]

its less overall

[real granite]

-sbs db +dashing ttk?

[stray adder]

bro is a madman

[viral current]

does anyone know if any of the blackrock depth items are good? like worth getting?

[subtle tundra]

just go play around with shit

[stray adder]

i do lol

all the time

[real granite]

man is a rattatoille

[subtle tundra]

fuck yea

[stray adder]

last key i tried no ttk

i dont like ttk

[subtle tundra]

me neither

[stuck rampart]

BRD stuff is just generic hero track, not worth for the difficulty its currently tuned to

[subtle tundra]

but it feels so bad when i do bottom st

[stray adder]

this feels pretty nice

[viral current]

so if i completely ignore BRD im not missing out on any like giga BiS or good items. good to know

[subtle tundra]

i like sudden demise better than sanguine but im weird

dont like sanguine eating my energy

smh

in st

[stray adder]

give it a shot

trust

[subtle tundra]

i have

[stray adder]

kk

[subtle tundra]

also sudden demise makes vanishing later in the pull not as bad

but im also a big 2 vanish fiend

[bronze plover]

!wa

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[stray adder]

I don't know about WaT personally, I prefer lethality

but you do you

[subtle tundra]

i played with ele and fdk

theres pulls that die very fast

so i cant use vanish

[stuck rampart]

Is there a handy guide anywhere of what we can cloak cheese?

[subtle tundra]

so its wasted

this way i always get vanish going down

[primal karma]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[subtle tundra]

yea in a perfect world, wat is bad

[stuck tree]

lmao i am in shock, i parsed green on heroic rash, did i do something blantantly wrong 😦

[real granite]

wat is bad, but in some niche scenarios it gives you a dmg check pass

[viral current]

apparently so, check out top tier logs and see what they did ig

[subtle tundra]

wat is not bad wtf

[real granite]

high key stitch, or tirna first

[subtle tundra]

ill fight you

[real granite]

who do you think you are

[stuck rampart]

Super delayed reply sorry, seems low, I sim at 1.25m on my horribly geared char https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/i2wB8zk2vwu3Vcm6D9GqYd

[real granite]

zerocool?

[subtle tundra]

varas

[stray adder]

oh damn first time seeing a drac rogue

sheeesh

[quiet oar]

Varas definitely has zerocool

[real granite]

ah ok then sowy

[stuck rampart]

I needed a name change and race change was on sale hahaha

[subtle tundra]

wat was bad when you had to invest 4 points

now its 1 pooint

[clever perch]

Is "LATEST" Simc working now in raidbots?

[viral current]

is sanguine blades good in high M+?

[subtle tundra]

yes its good aoe

[keen oak]

Does MA give more st?

[nimble tartan]

omg chat look mastery is crazy

[subtle tundra]

holy

[stray adder]

yes

[stuck rampart]

clearly gotta stack that OH dps

[real granite]

still, sacrify letha with ma feels ugly

[subtle tundra]

complete passive changed with something that does something feels good

[clever perch]

Is this still happening?

I guess it's fixed since message is not pinned anymore

[bronze plover]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[rotund jackal]

Do you run SB in high m+ or opt it out for Master assassin?

[real granite]

they do not exclude each one another

can go both, prob best option

[halcyon isle]

What the build m+?

[viral current]

is ttk troll for high M+? in favour of sanguine blades maybe?

[real granite]

i dont really know is ma is really an option, ma + subt is just so good... its soo goood, so tasty

[stray adder]

that's what im running

i really dont like ttk lol

in m+

[viral current]

i kinda like it for the mindless spam

oh in m+ maybe yea

havent actulaly ran any yet

[robust delta]

anyone know where I can find Master Assassin wa in the edit? it's showing up but don't see it in the list, somewhere in dynamic

[bronze plover]

imagine 427k eu game time what is behind blizzard policy who knows

[clever perch]

that build is kinda trol for high m+

[real granite]

new mount

[clever perch]

like why in the world u're not running sudden demise? xD

[quiet oar]

Well Wow token ist based on how many people buy it

and they literally went dry of wow tokens

Because of the mount

[clever perch]

without sudden demise? u're all crazy af

[viral current]

havent been in any m+ so i havent givben it any thought yet but i just looked and it and thought it looked odd

[stray adder]

sd loses value as you go up in key level though

[slow tulip]

this looks nice to me

[bronze plover]

yeah but when everyone buy it there is no point i do it 😄 its just everywhere 🙂

[clever perch]

??? no?

[quiet oar]

Well i dont want to use others

because they can run away

Now im the one

who runs away

[stray adder]

bro just run sd

[bronze plover]

lol u wana run away in dungeons and raids?

[stray adder]

you think i care lol

[quiet oar]

Yes

[bronze plover]

nice

[quiet oar]

Dont give the peasant the privlige i bought !

[slow tulip]

running away with transmog mount is even better

:^)

[viral current]

how do u sim urself with diff talents?

[quiet oar]

Top Gear

and under Talents, edit the loadout

[viral current]

ahh right

cheers

[bronze plover]

ok i try to remember buy stuff before enter raid and dung then

[quiet oar]

Yes

[slow tulip]

press copy and then edit

[proud raft]

these stats are good for m+?

[subtle tundra]

im curious what the high rated guys will play

casual/kush

[quiet oar]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[quiet oar]

Rogue

[real granite]

casual was playing no sbs last night and kush did play sbs

[quiet oar]

Im happy to help varas

[bronze plover]

idk why queen ring is so low on mastery as well as 3rd boss neck

[subtle tundra]

yea kush and casual prob rogue

[quiet oar]

Yep

[real granite]

and tundra did play outlaw bug

[subtle tundra]

outlaw == opinion disregarded

[real granite]

and zerocool was cooking some cursed builds

[subtle tundra]

as per the usual!

[torpid linden]

are both enh and ele just busted in m+ rn

[slow tulip]

whats the APM for outlaw, seems like assa is really fast now too

[real granite]

with zoldyck no arteriual

[slow tulip]

cursed xd

[subtle tundra]

problem with zoldyck is what do you even sacrifice for it

[real granite]

cant remember

[subtle tundra]

you go zoldyck but you have to give up bleed dmg

counter intuitive

weird aaaaah game

[real granite]

aaaaah faaaaking piiaaags

[stuck rampart]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFBRRUVZiRBCUQMVURUUUYVURoVBUEVVVUCEA thats what casual ran in mists last night

with zoldyck

[subtle tundra]

yea

blocked

[slow tulip]

this looks a regular raid ST build

[heavy canopy]

No IC?

[real granite]

nice try

[stuck rampart]

just goin off rio

[subtle tundra]

buddy thats the pure ST build

[stuck rampart]

im aware

[subtle tundra]

dont you think something is not right

he didnt play that

[slow tulip]

daily reminder that the name in wow also matters

[stuck rampart]

id fkn hope not

[slow tulip]

😆

[rotund oak]

how do u ramp w/o sbs?u have to press foks to spread them ruptures for scent stacks

[slow tulip]

1 more fok ye

[subtle tundra]

ok wild thought
what if i remove kb

[barren island]

the leader of my group quick a vulperra

[subtle tundra]

fuck kb

[barren island]

because it was a vulperra

[real granite]

dont

stop

[subtle tundra]

its my wet dream

let me

[slow tulip]

hahahah

[rotund oak]

[barren island]

no kb no mark build when

someone cook it

[rotund oak]

u can just cook it urself fam

[barren island]

i cant

[rotund oak]

not that hard

why?

[barren island]

because i dont wanna :/

[rotund oak]

u like copy-paste stuff?

[nimble tartan]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rotund oak]

but u asking for it

[barren island]

nah

[real granite]

copi paste aaaa faakin paaags

[barren island]

so far i been running these on 14s and they are my best results

[rotund oak]

good stuff if it works for u im happy for u

[slow tulip]

as someone in the rogue discord said 😄

[heavy canopy]

With MA? You cut off the screenshot

[barren island]

yeah, with MA

[rotund oak]

MA is a choice,whispyr called it,its cool but u should sim urself for stuff

[real granite]

how far better? how would you describe the levels of betterness?

[barren island]

saw some folks running WaT + another point on sub, but i rather take 2 lethality

[rotund oak]

and make the actual choice

[barren island]

comfy and dmg feels really solid

[subtle tundra]

2 capstone build?

[barren island]

what abomination is this

[real granite]

brother

[slow tulip]

looks cursed AF fam

[subtle tundra]

if theres any mod here, you can mute me

[rotund oak]

[cobalt sphinx]

lol

[real granite]

i think i will drop rogs disc for a few days

[barren island]

dude idk what you are cooking

but its stale

[real granite]

until the grandmas cokings stop

[barren island]

[subtle tundra]

IM NOT COOKING, IM BURNING

[rotund oak]

why would u TTK and not take SD

[barren island]

ITS BURNT

[rotund oak]

its not like u have the raid uptime on envenom anyway

[barren island]

bro, ttk feels shit on m+

idk

D:

[subtle tundra]

i just dont want kb.........

kb feels so shit

in m+

[heavy canopy]

Don't you basically get infinite Envenoms with FoK > Envenom on high keys?

[subtle tundra]

it does nothing!

[barren island]

kb sexy

[rotund oak]

its some prio dmg when u cleave brotherman idk

[subtle tundra]

brotherman

[rotund oak]

press and forget

as we all do

[gloomy cove]

Just got mad queens mandate. What's best way to use it?

[subtle tundra]

my main target dies in 5 seconds

[barren island]

ye

but you have to give up nice shit

[slow tulip]

will die in 3 sec now :^)

[real granite]

only and biggest true shit said tonight

[heavy canopy]

It's good for ST on bosses, especially for tyrannical

[rotund oak]

u press nonetheless,u take what u can 😛

[barren island]

stop doing 4 keys

[real granite]

ramping feels like sheet half the pulls with eles

[barren island]

bros

anyone played enh?

ever?

[slow tulip]

if you have a fdks and a mage in the group, just pick another prio target tbh xdd

[viral current]

whats fks

[subtle tundra]

it dies instantly in 15

[real granite]

frost dk

[subtle tundra]

if fdk and ele press cds

[barren island]

give me your dam

[barren island]

tru

[real granite]

and its not just the kb target dying

but small mobs also, so bye bye funnel

[barren island]

i want to play enh

but i heard its too hard

[heavy canopy]

is switching targets really that big of a deal?

[barren island]

and im monky brain

[rotund oak]

did a 12 NW elemental shammies do like 25mil dps

[slow tulip]

tank pulls adds on the first NW boss

fdk - oh 🙂

rip funnel brotherman

[subtle tundra]

anyone know what the best tank is for little stupid people that dont know how to tank?

[barren island]

bro, i said it earlier, we killed second boss on 1 hook on a 14, the elemental did like 50%+ of my dps

that shit was insane

[shy pecan]

Bear

[subtle tundra]

yea but it needs to also survive

[real granite]

wdym switching? switching after kb target dies? switching before it dies cuz u recognice the arcane mage choosed same target?

the moment u send kb ur doomed to that target

[rotund oak]

those mfkers overload and throw up thunders

[subtle tundra]

bear/brew are the only specs i have done keys as

[slow tulip]

bear, war, no dh / pala

[barren island]

i wonder if they surpassed enh after changes

idk what is happening with enh

[subtle tundra]

why no pala?!?!? thats goated

most fun tank

does it die?

[slow tulip]

its not easier

[heavy canopy]

switching after it dies ofc

[shy pecan]

I mean, bear's pretty sturdy. Just simple too. Keep IF up, use CDs for harder hitting stuff. Thrash, mangle for rage gen. Can play IF only or play Raze as well.

[real granite]

switching perse is not the pain source, its that you didnt even finish ramping and you lost cds

[zealous tundra]

what would you advise then? :((

[rotund oak]

yeah maybe,arcane mage kinda blasting as well

[eager ibex]

!wa

[real granite]

it is painfull indeed

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[barren island]

arcane mage isnt kinda mid on aoe tho?

[subtle tundra]

also added bonus of being a dino

[barren island]

at least on 14 their numbers look kinda mid

[subtle tundra]

(my druid is zandalari)

[rotund oak]

yeah but can go rly high if u allign ur stuff correctly

[shy pecan]

Yeah, can go dino bear, owl bear, glowy bear

[rotund oak]

but nowhere near ele thats for sure

[barren island]

i want to test enh

[shy pecan]

but I'd always suggest bear for someone learning to tank for the first time. Easy to get the fundamentals down and then work on other tanks from there

[rotund oak]

my next test is hunter,wont bother with anything else outside my rogue/mage and hunter for keys,dont rly hav ethe time either

[gloomy cove]

Skardyn/spyglass
Or Skardyn/mandate

[rotund oak]

mandate is for raids

[barren island]

only hunter i would test is surv

[hollow talon]

have you tried 1/2 in SoB and taking TTK

[rotund oak]

spyglass or crystal for m+

[barren island]

yeah

[wary musk]

Guys when do I stop getting more mastery? My sims keep telling me to get more :S

[barren island]

wasnt bad, but that was better for my runs

[viral current]

when in ur rota do u evn use mandate during raids

[rotund oak]

ye close that skadryns and stop trolling

[shy pecan]

Then just trust it and keep going until they offer different gear suggestions

[wary musk]

Just a joke fam chill

[nimble tartan]

my stats are BAD

[mossy sundial]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[real granite]

sim wants you to roleplay master assassin talent

[wary musk]

Had like 90 without the trinket tho

[hollow talon]

oic i guess on 14s you more stuff w rupture living longer

[shy pecan]

Yellow names...

[wary musk]

What's wrong with yellow names

[hollow talon]

yeah fr sounding a little racist

[real granite]

nah, just ppl that commited mistakes

in life

[quiet oar]

Not even 633

[rotund oak]

how does that constitute racial discrimination though

[quiet oar]

damn

[gloomy cove]

Sac or spyglass

[rotund oak]

for what

m+ or raid

[shy pecan]

Yeah, you chose to be an outlaw player...

[gloomy cove]

M+

[rotund oak]

there is no clear answer iirc but a higher ilvl should make the winner

u need to sim

[hollow talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/124169701881282560/1110305168328765440/6an3o7.gif?ex=671c0144&is=671aafc4&hm=9eeb7d6e7c731fc1f5ab727c285c7e4a56b2deddfef2027bc28bf61a7987ebcf&=

[real granite]

stop right there

sub rocks

i wont allow you such blasphemy

[shy pecan]

Yeah, guy's been in sub chat a bunch talking about enjoying the spec 🙂

[wary musk]

Outlaw>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other spec

But its bugged af now

[hollow talon]

outlaw was good in SL and DF

[wary musk]

so cant be bothered

[hollow talon]

i do not like outlaw now

[echo fox]

bring back shadowdance and acrobatic

[hollow talon]

RIP extendo arms

[real granite]

outlaw df s3 its the only good one

[real granite]

gomu gomu no sinister strike

[hasty crypt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rose dirge]

Im wondering about some rotational stuffs

Do we always go max combo points after shiv?

[fallen arch]

S1 Shadowlands too no

[rose dirge]

and we still envenom effeciently to get darkest night right?

[fallen arch]

Iirc it was in every mdi team then too

[nimble tartan]

when u craft rune wrists does it come with socket?

[rose dirge]

no

[fallen arch]

No

[shy pecan]

You just do normal finishers until you get DN, then get to 7 and envenom

[fallen arch]

Wouldnt that be something

[nimble tartan]

ok ty

[rose dirge]

Thanks

But what about in burst window?

[fallen arch]

What about it

[rose dirge]

After shiv? just normal finishers for darkest night?

[fallen arch]

Yes

[south lava]

doouble radiant power or 1 depth 1 radiant power for m+ guys?

weapon enchant

[rose dirge]

ah ive been forcing 7 combo points with shiv

[fallen arch]

U dont wanna waste combo points needlessly

[fallen arch]

Thats not optimal

[rose dirge]

Then im stopid

[shy pecan]

The only time you force 7 is for DN. Otherwise, just max - 2 so you don't cap out on CP

[fallen arch]

But it’s something u can do

[distant plinth]

Same as me then🤣

[real granite]

i was dk in shlands so idk

[rose dirge]

It was actually impossible to get good logs on assa today, barely anyone has logged

Everyone swapping for outlaw abuse...

[real granite]

it was meta but i speak about flavour

[real granite]

look the bright side, now the outlaw logs are completly scuffed

doomed to parse grey rest of the xpac

[distant plinth]

Man, imagine only time you EVER manage to do a +13 key is with exploiting 😂

[balmy condor]

Damn, manually searching a for an old pinned message to ask if it’s still relevant is diabolical lowkey

[kindred hinge]

Oh we fucked up ? Let conveniently release the most useful mount that everyone missed buying in BFA. That will divert discussion from the shitshow and net us some more millions.

Can't blame blizz strategy

[rose dirge]

Solace in the darkest of nights

[upbeat pebble]

!SHIV

what was the command for the shive macro lol

or did someone send it

[rotund oak]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[quiet oar]

They really deserve this money for such a clean and perfect patch !

[nimble tartan]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[real granite]

eu token went up a 30% value in a single day

thats wild

[cold halo]

Stocks rising

[echo fox]

need 2 more tokens and i only have 1 million in order to buy the bronto

can´t buy them coz am at work sadge

[steel ridge]

well, its around for over 2 month

let the fomo happen

[kindred hinge]

And while it is still incredibly useful, the warband bank overlap a lot of the function if you are not a hardcore goblin

[rose dirge]

Surely it will go down

Crazy how it was 180k not long ago

[drowsy hatch]

And if it doesnt then cash in with some wow tokens for your gold

[rotund oak]

yup that was one of my biggest fears currently,that and the stupid lag

its very wild actually

market started collapsing 3-4 weeks ago but now its gonna be hell

[nimble tartan]

how do i ungropu somethin in weakauras

[rose dirge]

All the gold billionaires are wakuping up now

[nimble tartan]

where do i drag it too

lmaoo

[rose dirge]

writing is hard?

[real granite]

yellow arrow pointing left

[shy pecan]

There's an arrow on the WA itself that points to the left. Click it and it will get moved out a level

[jade abyss]

Hello Assa Friends D:

[nimble tartan]

i dont have it..

[real granite]

strange, no idea

[deft vault]

Anyone got some tips to reduce lag on mythic ovinax?

[real granite]

some ui overhaul is messing with it prob

[echo fox]

Blizz raidframes, not using friendlynameplates

[slow tulip]

its server lag, you can't do shit about it sadly

[echo fox]

use latest wa

[shy pecan]

Did you update your WA? Should be there.

[hollow talon]

Play with crab mode on

[barren island]

gb is such a lovely place

[steel ridge]

!wa

[echo fox]

and avoid details if possible

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[nimble tartan]

proabbly aui hidin it

its ok i snuck it in some random group lmao

[stray adder]

its not

[barren island]

it is

lovely lovely

[shy pecan]

AUI shouldn't be overwriting the WA addon itself

[deft vault]

Ive done pretty much all of those and im still getting massive frame drop on parasite spawn. like i got a bomb of a pc and i drop to like 15-20 frame per sec on para spawn

[mint shell]

whats the m+ build now?

[barren island]

im runniing this

but follow your heart

[echo fox]

do u use plater?

[deft vault]

yeah

[echo fox]

maybe it´s coz the spawn of X nameplates

[deft vault]

ive downloaded the wa that removes parasite nameplate

[stray adder]

I got flammed earlier when I posted this

[barren island]

why lmao

tested a lot of dif things on 14s

this was the best

[steel ridge]

why are you running sanguine blades over sudden demise?

[stray adder]

"wHy u RuN sb OvEr sD"

[echo fox]

HAHSDUOHASD

HAAHAH

[steel ridge]

kekw

[barren island]

cuz we are overflowing with energy now

[steel ridge]

ye i can imagine its good value in aoe

[west crown]

As you should

No TTk is bad

[stray adder]

what

[barren island]

ttk shit

[west crown]

No lol

[steel ridge]

i second this, ttk in dungeon doesnt feel good

[west crown]

It’s for single target which we lack

[steel ridge]

without dashing scoundrel you dont gain much from it

[barren island]

i was not lacking with st on the 14s i did

far from it

[steel ridge]

everyone is lacking ST in dungeon spec