assassination

[waxen oyster]

well tooltip says bleeds nature damage over time and weapon poisons

[balmy condor]

weapon poisons, kb, bleeds

[novel star]

yeah but we know "poisons" can mean a number of things

[balmy condor]

it's not poisons

it's weapon poisons

[waxen oyster]

so you’d have a weaker kb

but not env

[novel star]

ah

true

it is weapon poisons

[waxen oyster]

it says nature damage over time

so thats just kb since weapon poisons are another?

[novel star]

ya

[sour oasis]

@balmy condor i dont know why but that doesnt work my friend

[waxen oyster]

SD would cancel out the bleed part

since 10% more bleeds

[balmy condor]

wdym that doesn't work

[sour oasis]

WHen i apply

the first mark

i didnt have the proc

weak aura proc of buff FoK

[novel star]

is amp poison consumption

[west crown]

Yes it’s viable and ok

[novel star]

considered a weapon poison?

or env damage

[balmy condor]

idk man

it's there

[sour oasis]

i swear i dont have

[balmy condor]

env

[novel star]

did you update ur wa btw whispyr

[balmy condor]

what talents do you have

[novel star]

LE fixed a bunch of envenom cancer earlier

[sour oasis]

i a m just doing it

[novel star]

so you prob wanna grab that if u didnt

[quartz locust]

Try to delete and re-import it

[kindred crescent]

do we use thistle teas for dmg still or just passive

[novel star]

well not "a bunch" but still, some

[west crown]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[novel star]

u still use it

u can be lazy with it tho cus we have so much energy

[true elbow]

This or no Without a Trace and 1 pont in lethality ? This sims higher for me.

[sour oasis]

As u can see

i have the buff

but not proc in the wa

[balmy condor]

what talent

[gilded cloud]

Does the tea macro just block auto use of tea until the next cast of shiv?

[balmy condor]

it's to prevent mashing

[sour oasis]

yours

ahah

[balmy condor]

bro show me your talents

press N

[gilded cloud]

Mashing a macro that has thistle tea in it?

[subtle oyster]

He prolly means the buff for fans

[gilded cloud]

Sorry just keeping up with the updates

[balmy condor]

tea is off the gcd

so if you're a button masher

it would double tea

[gilded cloud]

Oh okay gotcha

[hollow talon]

are the two bars evenom ttk trackers

[gilded cloud]

Thank you

[sour oasis]

oh my lord maybe u will ssave me of a talent fail

[subtle oyster]

The bars track TTK yes

[raw marlin]

swear sin is the most unbutton mashing class going

[hollow talon]

might have to borrow that for my WA pack

looks neat

[west crown]

Button mash = more damage

[sour oasis]

@balmy condor one talent is bad ?

[subtle oyster]

There is also one from Lisonna to track envenom if you prefer that look below the energy bar

[hollow talon]

can confirm my arm was falling off yesterday after playing anniversary edition outlaw

[balmy condor]

yes

[raw marlin]

you got a 2 week break now?

[balmy condor]

yeh dunno

[balmy condor]

yeah but if you press your buttons faster it's more dps bro

[stray adder]

I'm so tired of running GB

holy fuck

[sour oasis]

i am the only one with this problem ?

ahahah fml

[formal field]

on the second time through the CDs in a boss fight do we deathmark before vanish or after?

[balmy condor]

before

[hollow talon]

unfortunately i am garbage so i did not do a +16 mists with 3 outlaw rogues

[balmy condor]

how long do you think bros ban is

[novel star]

you will be rewarded keep going

[raw marlin]

14 days

[balmy condor]

only 14?

[stray adder]

thats it?

[raw marlin]

it was said on stream

[hollow talon]

surely it was an accident

[balmy condor]

damn

[stray adder]

bring back perma bans

[hollow talon]

along with his rank 1 parses

[balmy condor]

I thought he would've gotten WAY more

[hollow talon]

i always run keys with 3 outlaw rogues

[raw marlin]

yh and all key score/keys done etc

[balmy condor]

I mean bro was insano abusing

[sour oasis]

@balmy condor i found the problem, name of the aura is not with a wowhead number

[novel star]

who is the bro in question

[sour oasis]

so people who dont have

the name in english

are dead

[balmy condor]

oh

yeah

common french L

[sour oasis]

how can i found the number ?

ahahahah

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hellmo-french-baguette-chaos-gif-24577820

[sour oasis]

French Baguette

[hollow talon]

lmao

[balmy condor]

try 457178

[novel star]

ah

lol

[sour oasis]

perfect bro

that's work

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/numbers-crunching-gif-12718539

[hollow talon]

they probably could have done a 17 if they got mists

[balmy condor]

I'm pushing an update to the WA in a bit with that

so should be fixed

[rain mortar]

@balmy condor what are YOU playing right now in m+? Lots of cariants out there. I want to know what you personally are enjoying the most

[indigo cairn]

hi!! any updated assa talent trees for M+?

[hollow talon]

heard he actually plays sub

no cap

[novel star]

options are explained in the pins

theres multiple things you can do atm

[shell lodge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[desert cove]

Whispyr is there a way on plater to force the deathstalker’s mark colored bar to be the highest priority (like to not get overridden)

[balmy condor]

overriden by what

[rain mortar]

did i get trolled? 😛

[serene solar]

Whispyr + double vanish? Aintnoway

[wraith nexus]

subterfuge 😮

[balmy condor]

no?

[desert cove]

When I was doing ovinax last night the purple bar was getting its color changed

[balmy condor]

to what

[rain mortar]

internal bleeding over caustic or am i crazy

[keen pasture]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[balmy condor]

oh, forgor to swap

yes

caustic ofc

[desert cove]

I think it became like, a light orange or brown, I don’t remember exactly

[rain mortar]

okay phew

[hollow talon]

nhttps://wago.io/5FWtjYFgC

[balmy condor]

yeah that's intended

hit the options

[desert cove]

Oooooh

[balmy condor]

there's a color picker for it

[waxen oyster]

man ttk bleeds if your kb target dies early

[hollow talon]

oops

https://wago.io/5FWtjYFgC

[balmy condor]

you can just copy the deathstalker color

[desert cove]

I didn’t notice that when I updated it

[waxen oyster]

must feel even worse

than prior to patch

[balmy condor]

yah I added options for people

[desert cove]

Thanks bestie

[bronze flicker]

wtf first boss killed me in cloak on the spit ? is that a bug

i nw

[desert cove]

Yeah

[waxen oyster]

only the first second of cloak

stops it

[desert cove]

You have to cloak it in the first second

[waxen oyster]

or just feint

and live it with elu

[kindred crescent]

serrated bone spike is passive now!! Thats awesome

[wraith nexus]

Internet explorer?

[desert cove]

Yeah def one of the best QoL changes they made

[kindred crescent]

havent played rogue since 10.1

[waxen oyster]

bonespike was fun

when it wasnt undertuned

[arctic venture]

I didnt like it.

spell cast no my beach.

not

[rough agate]

As a global it felt weird

[cobalt sphinx]

Bone spike audio is great

[cobalt sphinx]

One look at WCL 11.0.5 and we’re back

[coral ibex]

!tott

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[true elbow]

This or dropping one point form Scent of Blood and getting Sanguine Blades ? Which and why ? 😄

[keen spruce]

wait so you shouldn't use the shiv macro im guessing

I was double chuggin tea all of that heroic clear

[coral ibex]

doesnt matter

you can macro it to get the cd syncd to kb

usage literally doesnt matter

[keen spruce]

the tea shiv macro

?

[coral ibex]

yea

[keen spruce]

[coral ibex]

if you macro it to shiv, you will always get a charge genned during your kb

[full coral]

small clarification for the shiv+tea logic, we're ripping it with both charges in ST/Raid cleave situation ya? fixing up binds so not sure if I want a raw no macro shiv as well

[keen spruce]

yeah but not for the back half no?

only the first shiv

[balmy condor]

dropping 1 point from scent seems sus as fuck

[full coral]

oh yall were just talking about this lmao\

[true elbow]

Idk sims higher for me, might be using wrong sim setting

[strange python]

hey lads, are we playing "bleed" build now on high keys?

[thorn fjord]

Stupid question but how much of a loss if any was the flensing knives fix

[balmy condor]

shiv macro is optimal

[balmy condor]

1.5%ish

[thorn fjord]

Ah ok

[vagrant brook]

it was usually doing 1-1.5% of my dps in st

[hollow talon]

what does the numbers in the 2nd part of the shiv macro do

!shiv

[balmy condor]

stops you from mashing tf out of the button

[thorn fjord]

So nothing we’d really notice

[balmy condor]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[balmy condor]

command says so

[storm forum]

ok i think it might be a plater/wa tracking issue, but there were a couple times in my last key where my marks dropped from an enemy, but I got darkest night when they died. just wanted to check if other people were having a similar issue.

[hollow talon]

ah i missed that part

reading hard

ooga booga

[balmy condor]

like if you just

/cast tea
``` right

then you press the button it casts a tea

but if you're brain lagged and button masher like me

[hollow talon]

https://tenor.com/view/wontbuylifeinsurancebutwillaskfora-go-fund-me-butwillsell-fishand-bb-qplates-gif-26493896

[balmy condor]

I just taptaptaptaptaptap

so sometimes you just back to back tea

cause it's off gcd

the cast sequence makes it so you can't mash multiple charges of tea

[alpine sonnet]

Can someone help me, I was just doing a dungeon and had times when none of my deathstalkers marks were getting consumed, despite having full combo points.

[cloud yew]

you may have had darkest night buff up already

nvm, are you sure full?

[worthy moon]

Am I stupid or does this lead to no Garrote for all of our CDs?

[alpine sonnet]

Yea i was making complete sure of it when i started noticing

[quaint laurel]

do we still use crimson tempest in ST while in dungeons?

[hollow talon]

oic that sounds helpful

i do be a ooga booga button sender

[spice surge]

If you have darkest night up you cannot go below 3 stacks of the mark currently

It is a bug

[vagrant brook]

stupid
you said it not me

[drowsy hatch]

you still garrote, the extra mut is for cp for the rupture

[full coral]

it's saying follow with a mut, not replace with a mut

[worthy moon]

So stupid, got it, ty

[full coral]

LOL

np

[alpine sonnet]

Noted 🫡

[drowsy hatch]

eh the system they have to use doesnt illustrate it well

[balmy condor]

the images I used to have were very good

[kind heron]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[arctic tusk]

@balmy condor any cheeky talents for silken court or nah

[balmy condor]

open wowhead

[hushed elbow]

@balmy condor open wowhead

[balmy condor]

already is

[south token]

when using this tea marco i never have the tea mastery buff for the last tick of kingsbane - am i doing it wrong? Or kingsbane damage not important anyways?

[balmy condor]

that's normal

shiv is 8 seconds tea is 6

so it'll run out

[south token]

thats suboptimal but only by a negligible margin?

[balmy condor]

not suboptimal

[south token]

oh interesting i thought kingsbane damage was ramping up with its duration and buffing the last ticks was preferable

[balmy condor]

yeah

except that it hits max stacks

[spice surge]

Yes its ramping up, but you cap it really quickly now

[balmy condor]

in ~5 seconds

by the time you hit your second shiv

it's already long maxed

[south token]

so nothing i do will increase the last ticks damage?

unless the crit from MA

[balmy condor]

I mean once it's 50/50

there's not really much to do

[split grail]

Okay so we back to improved garrote

[balmy condor]

tick 3 is the same as tick 7

cause they're both 50/50

so does "the last tick" really matter?

[south token]

but each tick can crit independently? so that means it doesn’t matter when we vanish in terms of kingbane damage?

[balmy condor]

pretty much

[south token]

if its at max stacks i mean

[balmy condor]

yep

[feral pelican]

i have a question.... when i am on coasting rotation just maintaining bleeds and psns.... should i not be SPAMMING envenoms? should I be instead hitting mut slowly and just making sure i dont cap on energy trying to make sure my envenom psn uptime is high?

[south token]

sorry for asking so many questions but once kingsbane stacks are maxed - does it make a difference if double envenom is up?

just in terms of kingsbane overall damage

[feral pelican]

i think my problem is that i am spamming mut as soon as i have the energy and envenoming asap

[balmy condor]

spamming it is fine

[balmy condor]

no

once it's maxed it's maxed

[feral pelican]

im wondering why I am being out performed and i feel like i am doiung something wrong

[half moat]

How good is supercharge? It seems OK, but like.. quite possibly the point is ok to go some where else.

[coral ibex]

take subterfuge 🙂

[drowsy hatch]

It's fine but droppable

[half moat]

I actually prefer subterfuge

lol

[rain mortar]

im not gonna lie.... i HATE the new thistle, maybe i just spam too much but its driving me nuts

[hushed elbow]

why do we want ttb over blindside on twins?

[onyx scroll]

Just scrolling through the channel and patch weeks have to be Whispyr's villian origin story

[feral pelican]

@rain mortar i feel like thats my prob too

[drowsy hatch]

should be fok on 2

[strange python]

Same…I know I’m messing something up but can’t figure out what

[half moat]

Word, just wanted to confirm the point was movable. thanks

[hushed elbow]

oh wow really? is that from poison application?

[drowsy hatch]

tis just better on deathstalker

[vagrant brook]

Thrown Precision makes it 2 targets instead of 3

[hushed elbow]

I thought blindside no energy ambushes on 2 targets would be better

[balmy condor]

no

momentum of despair makes it 2 instead of 3

well

thrown as well I guess

[drowsy hatch]

both of them do it

[balmy condor]

since you're always running momentum

unless you're zerocool and weird

I heard he's running follow the blood

lord only knows why

[hushed elbow]

word, thanks yall

[south token]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[wary valley]

radiant power sims higher than depths in patchwork 5 mins?

[balmy condor]

happens

[south token]

is there a weakaura to show when kingsbane has max stacks?

[upbeat gust]

could i post my log and can someone tell me why my kingsbane is like 20 mill lower than other ppl?

[drowsy hatch]

probably but you should just be hard sending it on your kb target anyways

[tired gull]

👀

[balmy condor]

yeah there's kb trackers but it's pointless

[wary valley]

sigh....

im so broke already this tier

[balmy condor]

I mean

why are you spending gold

[proud dust]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

to swap back and forth

on 0.1%

[drowsy hatch]

I really doubt changing your enchant is really going to be moving the needle so much

[balmy condor]

you can't complain about being broke and also be wasting money

[rain mortar]

maybe im just bad now, i still do more damage with old build

[wary valley]

fair enough. my sim is with a bunch of other changes so i gotta isloate the dif

[strong wing]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[wary valley]

but if it's better overall in M+ it makes all the sense to swap

[drowsy hatch]

Its more saying if its a tiny little difference and youre struggling for money

it just isnt worth it

[south token]

pointless to track kingsbane status, just apply master assassin within the kingsbane window

so right before the second shiv is fine

seems good, thanks for the answers!

[vale shore]

uh, is anyone else hitting insanely hard right now?

that was on Lethon

im 622 ilvl

[tired gull]

seems pretty normal to me

[south token]

today in nexus princess i had a 8.2 million envenom crit

[vale shore]

ive never envenomed for 5.4 mil

[tired gull]

i'm 612 and just had 6.2m envenom

[woven shore]

im hitting 7m envenoms lately

[south token]

but it was lucky spymaster augvoker procs i think

[vale shore]

I checked for augvoker buffs in auras, none

[vagrant brook]

if you're running supercharger it makes sense it's dealing more dmg

[vale shore]

im not though

[south token]

i mean it could be the empowered supercharger ones?

[vale shore]

im running cold blood

im fatebound

[vagrant brook]

well fatebound goes brrr during DM
and if you're lucky

[upbeat gust]

only been hitting 4.8 mills

[south token]

im also not sure what causes the big differences in crits… ranges from 3.5m - 8.2 m crits for me

[royal lantern]

have dm running + shiv +amp poison (which is doubled during DM) + crit + a high roll on the number, and yeha, it will be a big number

[vagrant brook]

guys I made a 7 page google doc explaining Ovi'nax WAs
surely guild is prepared right?

[hybrid scarab]

is assa the preferred spec for mythic silken court now?

[robust aspen]

could someone help me out? does anyone have one of those strings for talents for assassination rogue? i havent played in years, bit overwhelmed

[drowsy hatch]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[fallow canopy]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[vale shore]

yeah but not THAT big. this is my envenoms on last night golemlord Arglemarch

[south token]

how bad is rng with fatebound? it is really what keeps me from giving it a try

[digital wind]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[raven locust]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[vale shore]

not bad at all, its a "heads I win, tails you die" sort of deal

[royal lantern]

dont let them gaslight yoz

its a fucking COINFLIP

[vale shore]

you are flipping coins, not rolling dice

[vagrant brook]

i've been hitting 5M pretty consistently but i'm 628

[south token]

sounds pretty awful not gonna lie

[vale shore]

its not

[keen spruce]

all this trimming got my bars lookin real pvpish

[raven locust]

Transmitter and an Aug i've seen 8.4m

[robust aspen]

thistle tea is still a thing?

[south token]

the coin flip i mean

[vale shore]

certainly not as awful as losing your darkest night to a boss jumping away to a platform and locking you out of the hero spec the rest of the fight

[south token]

thats true

[vagrant brook]

i might try FB cause its ez mode and marginally sims higher for me in st

[prime hull]

Is this macro actually recommend over just playing normally since you won't always have -100 energy during shiv?

[royal lantern]

you dont have vanish ever?

like, sorry but

thats such a weak "excuse"

[south token]

its really cringe that vanish is the only way to reapply mark … hard to believe they designed it that way

[prime hull]

I do agree the failure feels overly punishing here.

[vale shore]

you have vanish every two minutes, IF it lets you reapply deathstalkers mark, which is in no way guaranteed

[royal lantern]

"if i missplay, dont check fight timers and dont use my ability that lets me re-apply the mark, FB is better even thought its literally based on RNG" is horrible advice imo

[prime hull]

Today I had my Deathstalkers mark disappear randomly right after my cooldowns, when I don't have vanish since I used it for master assassin.

[sleek ridge]

Can someone link the tricks macro?

[drowsy hatch]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[prime hull]

So I need to wait 2 minutes to reapply it. Felt very bad

[sleek ridge]

thank you

[south token]

i mean holding vanish for that case is possible but pretty pointless to spec master assassin then

[uneven plume]

Anyone know what sims higher for m+?

Talents

[vale shore]

what RNG? "If I get heads, I do damage, but If I get tails I only do damage"?

[royal lantern]

so you guys lose the mark the second you use vanish

somehow

all the time

and that never happens to me ever, but always to you

[prime hull]

No, I'm just saying the mark timed out on me 6-8x a raid night.

[iron valve]

the RNG is if you hit capstone early in the fight or not

[prime hull]

By timed out I mean randomly vanished.

[south token]

mark should be reapplied by blindside procs there i said it

[coral ibex]

very brave

[raven locust]

I've seen Mark vanish once since prepatch but it seems super rare

[royal lantern]

mate, you know how swinging it is with high rolling on either side lol

[vale shore]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-controversial-yet-so-brave-controversial-brave-gif-12046682

[prime hull]

Yes. It's way too overly punishing design if you miss one global you are without hero talents for 2 minutes.

[royal lantern]

like the entire "lol doesnt matter what you flip" is so wrong

[prime hull]

Yes you can play around it and play better.

[weary swallow]

Is DN still bugged? Havent played anything today

[royal lantern]

when its a big deal if you actually get big chains

[prime hull]

But it should not punish you so drastically for 2 minutes.

[lucid silo]

deeze nuts are bug free now

[prime hull]

I found it very frustrating learning assassination recently after playing Subtlety until now.

[weary swallow]

Nice

[prime hull]

Since Subtlety can reapply the mark so easily.

[royal lantern]

missing what global

you cant miss it unless you literally dont use envenom for 30seconds straight

[prime hull]

The ambush at the start of a m+ boss fight and you don't have vanish for 1 minute +.

[lucid silo]

the mark can be really frustrating especially with the bug

[prime hull]

Or if the boss jumps away and it times out.

Or an intermission happens and it times out.

[lucid silo]

i save vanish for those situations

[royal lantern]

??? why would you ambush on a m+ boss when you have DN up from the trash packs before the boss

[prime hull]

Or the add doesn't die properly and you don't get a refund.

Like the trees in mists for example, or 3rd boss grim batol.

It's just overly punishing.

[lucid silo]

theres no time to have deeze nuts up while in an m+

[royal lantern]

you mean the boss where you use vanish for the boss dmg phase anyway?

[sour mist]

just push vanish

[prime hull]

You don't have vanish for the second intermission.

[sour mist]

and u gucci

[vagrant brook]

3rd boss GB just hold DN from the mini boss and then smash the dragon

[prime hull]

And I mean the trash adds too in the key.

Just an example of mobs that don't die.

[royal lantern]

sorry, but thats all just a giant wall of "i do major mistakes and ignore my basic gameplay/talents" rn

yes the mark sucks Sometimes, i fully agree there

but when you ALWAYS lose it, you just Play really fucking wrong and should check that

[prime hull]

I think missing one global shouldn't cause you to lose 20% DPS or something like that for a minute.

[royal lantern]

like, saying "yeha but mists first boss"

you hold vanish for the "real" boss there anyway, so whats the problem?

[prime hull]

Or for example the 3rd boss of siege, jumps away and mark times out.

Intermission on Silken court.

Intermission on many raid fights.

[royal lantern]

how long do you guys need for the siege bosd that the mark times out

what the fuck?

[prime hull]

There are so many situations where it is awkward.

[royal lantern]

its fucking 60seconds

[royal lantern]

silken court is giga scripted, wdym

like MATE

really

sorry

[sullen steppe]

Do we press any cds before a key begins?

[royal lantern]

but you seek excuses like crazy rn

and im a mark hater

[coral ibex]

minor gain to get snd up before the key otherwise no

[prime hull]

Maybe I just suck at the spec but i have been very much annoyed by the mark behavior.

[royal lantern]

but those are NOT issues

[coral ibex]

extraordinarily small minor gain

[prime hull]

Luckily subterfuge in keys is helping a bit.

[royal lantern]

like, silken court?

what the hell man

that fight is 100% scripted

you cant fuck it up at all

unless you fight it fully afk and not aware

and at that point you should not care cus you dont care about the fight

on heroic you just afk hit the mage until intermission is over, and when its over you transfer it to the big guy

and repeat that until the fight is done

[south prawn]

Maaan fk auto tea

[past bobcat]

On silken is it super worth to rupture and gar other boss

then go back to other boss

[slate crown]

[royal lantern]

just tunnel mage->do intermission->tunnel big guy->do intermission->big guy/mage swap bettwen every mechanic in p3 until dead

[slate crown]

I forgot I gained a keybind

[south prawn]

KB comes up and u hve no tea… pool for 5 seconds to have half a decent KB so cringe

[past bobcat]

@slate crown Did you add an enve thing to this?

Or did you add it as a bar

[coral ibex]

i keep zugging too hard and pressing my dm and kb before the fat man's damage amp after the opener

[royal lantern]

dont play assa if you hate pooling, the spec plays like dogshit rn because they reduced pooling to almost 0

[slate crown]

!wa Mine is a Bar, in LE Collection there's a long horizontal bar that splits in 2 when you have Twist.

Whispyr's pack has a modified version which changes it to two stout vertical bars

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[eternal hawk]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[slate crown]

It's also in my main pack

[spice spire]

[south prawn]

Its not that I hate it per say but pure ST feels awkward as fk to play in m+ (running MA build) im not sure how to min max it

[eternal hawk]

bro my macro has deleted itself like 3 times now

[spice spire]

Skill issue tbh

[eternal hawk]

so true though

[spice spire]

Glhf big dog

[south prawn]

Do i not go into auto tea threshold?

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[balmy condor]

I guess you're Terrable

[eternal hawk]

hey thats my line

[winged basin]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kyz2mpWhtTAZG1Vn#fight=37&type=damage-done for the love of jeebus someone tell me what I am doing wrong, I am losing my mind, feel like I am playing correctly, but my damage just isnt there

[royal lantern]

in m+ build you kinda suck it up tbh, m+ build just has less energy on bosses

ye, can be akward, but it is what it is

[royal lantern]

doesnt really matter

[south prawn]

Its punishing as fk

[royal lantern]

minmaxing tea and ignoring that tea exists is 0,2%

like, its nothing

[thorn fjord]

Kill the boss faster and they wont have energy woes 😂

[south prawn]

If u mess up 1 KB gg ur doing tank dps

[spice spire]

More like. Roadd amiright

[royal lantern]

but tea and kb have the same cd

and are always up at the same time

thats not a problem

[dark arrow]

yeah on bosses I feel like i'm always struggling to have energy after the first half of the fight.

[south prawn]

Tea gets triggered tho if u go below the threshold the cd dont mean anything anymore

[royal lantern]

? mate

you use tea at start togheter with the shiv that goes into kb

tea has 1min cd

kb has 1min cd

after that, every single kb will be up togheter with a tea

[past bobcat]

hmmm I saw KB had one that just had the icon with 1 or 2 on it

Is that possible at all?

[sinful island]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[royal lantern]

like, you literally CANT have a kb without a tea if you do a normal opener

[south prawn]

Ye i guess i have to be careful with auto triggering tea in case i need to hold KB

[royal lantern]

i mean, if it auto triggers the 1 gcd before kb

its a normal used one lol

[sinful island]

!wa

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[south prawn]

Like the mist first boss felt like ass the two times i did post changes

Forced to hold KB

And tea charges all trigered

[slate crown]

I mean you can just do a very basic envenom icon with a stack counter with very little effort

[south prawn]

All cds up and u have to pool energy when tree boss is low (giga groupwide dmg) so cringe

[slate crown]

it wouldn't do what the bars do though, the point being to show you the individual durations of envenom

[slate crown]

You could make it be two separate icons if you like by right clicking and doing Convert to Icon, I'm pretty sure that's what Kush did

[drifting lance]

damn if you have two 626 rings you cant get free upgrade if they're the same ring? gg.

[hushed elbow]

!wa

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[shadow spindle]

i am trying assa and for some reason after my first death mark and kingsbane ends i fall 100k dps from where i should be and after the second kingsbane onwards i am steady at where i should be, is that normal?

[grim ember]

!wa

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[delicate imp]

how is this?

[covert jewel]

sim

[delicate imp]

I mean simmings useless for my rogue thats not max level yet. its gonna be an alt

[covert jewel]

gonna be good for fresh char as any other 610 items

[hushed elbow]

Lux's WA has double envenom tracker?

[coral ibex]

not great

[nimble tartan]

yay guys!

[winged sun]

You asked a question, sim will answer it for you, and you’ll get an answer for the trinket u get in the future too

[nimble tartan]

idk how to use it!! omggg

[naive spindle]

Bloodlust?

[delicate imp]

Useless to sim atm

[balmy condor]

I mean if you're not max level just equip whatever

610 is big ilvl

yolo

ilvl good

[delicate imp]

i was curious of thoughts tho. i remember it was cracked for melee in the day or it might have a high proc rate now is all

[pliant terrace]

Man I'm so sad. My guild wiped on broodtwister at 10% on a pull where I was doing 2.6m and then we kill it the next pull 😭

[quasi ingot]

everytime

[pliant terrace]

yep

[royal lantern]

i had a big 1,6m blood pull

then 10people got a DC

i love this messy patch

[balmy condor]

nah all the brd stuff sucks

[delicate imp]

Big fair this is what i was looking for . thank you

[woeful meteor]

it's the best item from the raid, but worse than the good tww options

[pliant terrace]

still worth doing for the bloodfang rework imo

[frank ermine]

can they make thistle tea a choice node. one choice would be without the automatic use

[nimble tartan]

!wa

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[quasi ingot]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[quasi sonnet]

our guild is experiencing giga lag, like unplayable in raid, all 20+ of us - can we do something to fix it?

[silent drift]

bro i see all ass rogues run sacbrood, i have it but sims for shit

is there a secret im not getting?

[pseudo osprey]

i wish, it fucks up my GOs sometime in PVP as SUB

[coral ibex]

no it just sims good for them

you should follow the sim for your gear choices

that's what they're doing too

[west crown]

Depends on what stats you need

[pseudo osprey]

Also how is Assa rogue in PVP atm ? im tempted to play it over Sub in 2s and maybe blitz

[hollow river]

Don’t let yourself fall below 30 energy ez

[royal lantern]

they have it->use it

thats all

[hollow river]

Come join us in #pvp

[royal lantern]

#pvp

most people here dont touch pvp

icky stinky mode

[red wolf]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[royal lantern]

yes that includes you @hollow river

[hollow river]

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-slap-attack-scratch-spray-bottle-gif-17118070709567052669

[mellow juniper]

!shiv

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[novel parcel]

I just got to silken prog (mythic), and I'm a bit confused on wtf to do

Is it worth to save your 2nd(? I think) darkest night for whenever Anubarash gets the damage amp, or send it on him before he leaves? At the like, 40ish second mark

[young flicker]

ready

[ashen scroll]

!wa

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[west crown]

The min max answer would be to hit the skinny one as much as you can while anub gets into place and time it so you have DN as skinny jumps away

[novel parcel]

I tried that once and I think I was so cus he jumped away with 1 stack left sadge

But that sounds better then just sitting on it for like 10 or however long seconds

[west crown]

Yeah you will be progging court for a while. I believe in you

[novel parcel]

I know LOL

I wanna go back to kyveza man

[rain remnant]

!wa

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[tired gull]

Just progged heroic silken with my guild tonight 😎

[west crown]

I’d join a CE guild but I ain’t got 16 hours a week to raid

[stone carbon]

is there an actual video guide on assa atm? It's all too complicated in the written guides for me now

[west crown]

Whispyr YouTube

[stone carbon]

ty!

[raw marlin]

can someone link me import code to new m+ build, im reading 13 different things

[iron jasper]

whats the command to see simc spreadsheet

[errant swallow]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[west crown]

Take subterfuge, drop sbs and sudden demise for ttk and master assassin from old hybrid

[iron jasper]

ty

[coral ibex]

CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAzyMmtZAAAAAAw2yMzwDMzgZmZZWGzMYmZMDGzsttMmBYzsMwAWALDDwwCA

[west crown]

Idk why Whispyr hasn’t put that build on the talent page in wowhead yet

[coral ibex]

hes busy cooking still

also dont drop sbs

[raw marlin]

yh this isnt my main so i have about 1% idea what youre talking about lol

[west crown]

lol sorry

[balmy condor]

yeah idk either that guy sucks

[raw marlin]

bet he is british

[west crown]

Id rather be 100% sure before I edit a guide too, I don’t blame you

[raw marlin]

haha np, i havent played enough to know the abilities by name lol

[balmy condor]

pins will be up to date more than guide

[raw marlin]

whats the aoe silence btw? Iron wire is st?

[balmy condor]

wowhead will be up to date before the other two

and then it proliferates from there

such is the pipeline

[halcyon hamlet]

finally im bing chilling

[tawdry halo]

damn

[raw marlin]

also what is the tier set bonus? I dont have any tier yet and im fucking blasting lol

[vocal cradle]

at this point in the tier (we just got to brood) should i focus boss dmg or add dmg?

early it was boss dmg right?

mythic btw

sorry lol

[pure haven]

iron wire + indiscriminate carnage

[pallid whale]

so dumb hehe question. Does kingsbane do anything for aoe

[pure haven]

yeah, through spatter and such

[dapper cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-infinity-gauntlet-power-thanos-gif-15000377

[pallid whale]

okok ty

[dire sphinx]

What do you guys think about swapping lethal dose out for twist and dashing?

for mythic+

nm, can't get dashing

[dapper cradle]

[dire sphinx]

but one lethal dose for twist?

[marble hemlock]

rip flensing knives, you will not be missed

[stray adder]

dashing is not very good for m+ because you're always energy capped on trash without it

[dire sphinx]

fair, i was thinking more for bosses

[glad osprey]

how the heck are you guys getting into keys?

everyone is so meta focused rn and like

rogues bring 0 utility and i'm finding it literally impossible rn

[dire sphinx]

you make your own keys 🙂

[glad osprey]

everyone wants preservation evoker, a lust, and like

[dapper cradle]

who says we're doing keys

[dark arrow]

how do I get a thread channel to have a quick log review for my mythic ulgrax fight?

[dapper cradle]

[glad osprey]

idk because i just dont find it fun to raid only one night of the week and have 0 content to do otherwise

[runic helm]

Caustic is based on center of mob riht?

[dire sphinx]

guess i'll drop one lethal for twist and see how that feels

[peak saffron]

assassination issues all fixed now?

[vocal cradle]

!wa

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[dire sphinx]

yes, we just have to push one button and we're top of the charts every fight

[peak saffron]

perfect

[dire sphinx]

man, i had that darkest night bug on a mythic queen kill earlier tonight. That jerk perried my ambush and i had to do all of phase one without mark

twice

errheroic

heroic not mythic, scrambled brain

[dapper cradle]

mythic queen kill

[dark arrow]

anyone able to look at my log? killed mythic Ulgrax https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c1MPbNpt8mQFL2yV#fight=68&type=damage-done&source=70

[raven egret]

uh why does Nerubar Finery shows out of /24 cap this week

[proud dust]

it's a growing cap

[dapper cradle]

3x8 = 24

[coral ibex]

wait should i have more than 8 finery rn?

i full cleared this week

do i need to do alts in like lfr or something

[quartz relic]

These are the talents that are in fuu, are these the good ones? m+

[desert vault]

is there any explanation of the interupt macro for brood twister so i can better understand it? just macro it, mouse worm to see your order for interupt?

[tawdry halo]

@coral ibex how does the subterfuge / MA build compare to hybrid from your experience?

[proud dust]

if you spent 16 finery on your first buff previously, the most you can have rn is 8

[onyx musk]

I know you didn’t ask but it feels pretty good just have to use vanish in your kb window

[proud dust]

you would only have mroe than 8 if you haven't gained any buff stacks yet

[real granite]

i started making some sims, and overall for me, dropping SD in any way its a -8% in patchwerk 5t and -2% in dslice, how it can be any good sim dropping sd to any of you xD

[coral ibex]

it feels pretty good

[tawdry halo]

oh just coz his name was "subterfuge enjoyer" but i like the response

[coral ibex]

idk its hard to compare but anything to get rid of sanguine for me lol

[onyx musk]

Yeah has to be the worst feeling talent on st in a dungeon setting ngl

Sb*

[kindred cobalt]

Stupid question. When they say adressed, that means they know the issue and are working on it, or it is just fixed?

[tawdry halo]

maybe they're not sure if the hotfix worked?

but like i think they mean they fixed it

[kindred cobalt]

Ok that makes sense too

[solar merlin]

!wa

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[tawdry halo]

@onyx musk @coral ibex does not having vanish for quick silenceing utility for newly pulled mobs / chain pulling tanks not impact the play so much?

like I typically save my vanish for when some genuine pelican pulls some randomy mobs with tab target / their ass

which happens probably once a key on average and saves a wipe

[balmy condor]

already fixed

[ocean bronze]

!team

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[rough lodge]

...your kingsbane can be parried? is there any way to prevent that?

[kindred cobalt]

Thx for confirmation. 🙏🏼

[runic hinge]

Stand behind the boss

[marble crest]

whats the command to open a private chat that lets players review your logs?

[faint vessel]

with 1pt supercharger we can apply DN at 5CP now?

[marble crest]

or am i like having a crisis and thats something i made up

[rough lodge]

ahhh that makes sense, it happens during a certain phase when I'm running slightly ahead, thank you

[kindred cobalt]

Now the only thing missing is the Tea revert 🥲

[stray adder]

i am giga starving against bosses in keys

[vast loom]

Just Macro it 🙂

[warm flint]

do we still play with momentum or do we use blood

[vast loom]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[marble crest]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[dark arrow]

me too. idk what we are supposed to do unless we just sit there.

[raven egret]

we pretty much always use momemtum still

[dark arrow]

!log https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c1MPbNpt8mQFL2yV#fight=68&type=damage-done&source=70

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[kindred cobalt]

Macro for not using once reach 30 energy? 😂

[dark arrow]

well that doesn't create a thread for log reviews lol

[warm flint]

oh no wonder

mr zero is trolling using blood

lmao

[daring imp]

dragons any good for us?

[marble crest]

\

[kindred cobalt]

Nothing beats dwarfs

[waxen oyster]

sim say no spike gud

[warm flint]

on high enough keys dropping spike is ight

[oak tangle]

You ask a community figure to make a thread for you

[dark arrow]

any community figures able to make a thread for me for a quick log review?

[scenic mulch]

i just had a 9.5m envenom

[tawdry crypt]

is kingsbane bugged and randomly dissapearing?

[scenic mulch]

is there something off with supercharger?

[balmy condor]

parry

[balmy condor]

supercharger is giving big duration with twist the knife

the damage is fine

envenom is working

evisc/dispatch for the other two specs do not work

[scenic mulch]

o

[oak tangle]

im assuming cause no post about it that supercharger and DN changes dont ammount to rotation consideration

[balmy condor]

correct

finishing on 4/5 to consume DN from supercharge

and finishing on 7 like normal to consume it

[stray adder]

i wanna go dracthyr for the memes but i just dropped 150cad on a mount

[balmy condor]

are equal

[novel star]

nothing fucking matters patch

[oak tangle]

nice, works out even nicer than before, cause you dont have to fish

[bright charm]

only good thing about the patch is Eternal Bloodfang honestly

and i guess i like the slice and dice change

[coral ibex]

meh its fine

[onyx musk]

Dropped iron wire and all my homies are pissed

[coral ibex]

dont really mind not having 2x vanish

[oak tangle]

and will feel much nicer not having to generate on 6 cp as much

[wintry pagoda]

i just lost my mark twice like 20min ago in a key

[tawdry halo]

@balmy condor fyi

[runic hinge]

Feint off gcd

[scenic mulch]

^ that's the best "revert"

[bright charm]

thats true

[real granite]

subt being viable and old friend master assassin are nice too

always liked the master assassin since legion

nightblade on all guldan copies and vanishing into shadow dance for big stonks, such great times

[bright charm]

idk i dont play subt i only play Outlaw and Sin
master assassin is alright but for every moment i enjoy master assassin we have a bug that unstealths me for no reason

[drowsy hatch]

think he meant subtlety the talent

not the spec

[wintry pagoda]

subterfuge'

[drowsy hatch]

subterfuge

[bright charm]

oh yeah that i probably should have figured that out

[drowsy hatch]

duh

live dumbass here

(me)

[bright charm]

nuh uh

[wintry pagoda]

refer to name

[real granite]

subterfuge talent yeah i menat

[bright charm]

yeah i dont really like subterfuge but maybe im just sick of it from playing outlaw

[real granite]

subterfuge fits nice into the mark gameplay

[bright charm]

thats true

[wintry pagoda]

being able to silence casts for 12s straight is crazy aswell

[marble crest]

is anyone okay with reviewing some mythic logs?, it feels like im making mistakes but im struggling to see where

[real granite]

being able to dot all and choose prio target when puggy tank finished pulling, its godsent bro

[bright charm]

oh for sure its very nice

[simple pilot]

Heya all, I had a question about empowered crystal trinket from db vs brood ovi. I don't see anybody using brood but a ton using crystal but for me it sims lower, any reason it's used by so many in m+?

[wintry pagoda]

1 less button most likely

also double on use with stat buffs are prolly just bad

assuming 2nd trinket is transmitter/grace?

or is ovinax not on 30s icd bound to them

[balmy condor]

you can ignore the on use on ovi'nax egg

but it recently (like 12 days) got changed in sims

to try and stay under 20 stacks

[austere bramble]

guys is the sin bug fix big dps

[balmy condor]

and that's why it's simming so much higher

[simple pilot]

I use brood/tw wrath one crit with 12k agi for 20 sec but also have skardyns

[balmy condor]

its 0 dps

well fixing flensing knives is like -1.5%

[austere bramble]

ok thank you sir

[balmy condor]

but whatever

[coral ibex]

SV+10 subt/ttk/ma breakdown (i died in a trash pull to an invis swirly or the overall would be higher)

i had 4.3m normal hits from envenom

how did my crits not crit for more than my normal hits wtf

[simple pilot]

Ahh ok so it's simming perfect stacks?

[balmy condor]

idk bout "perfect"

but it tries to be under 20

so

[wintry pagoda]

supercharged noncrit?, low cp crit?

[balmy condor]

I guess yeh

[coral ibex]

i dont play supercharger

[proud dust]

I wanna make sure I'm not fucking up on ky'veza prog, but we just never pool anymore? we envenom as often as possible and maintain dots?

[coral ibex]

you want to maintain env at as high of a stack/% uptime as possible

and not cap energy

[wintry pagoda]

is there any dmg amp in SV that could cause the 4.4m noncrit

cause that number seems sketch

esp with 700k avg

[marble crest]

is anyone down to help review mythic logs?

[old sequoia]

anyone know what setting it is to add back the indicators for the +2 and +3 to my dungeon timer?

[scenic mulch]

well. i did just get a 9.5m envenom crit so

4m is doable non crit i guess with supercharge

[vernal shadow]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[wintry pagoda]

hes net speced into supercharger

[bronze horizon]

damage amp to shield on skarmorak? also when damaging a shield afaik even crits count as non crit

[scenic mulch]

o

[wintry pagoda]

it being a crit and counting as noncrit

would explain the almost matching numbers

[bronze horizon]

I remember experience that during raz as sub

was confused

[wintry pagoda]

mystery solved

time for bed

https://tenor.com/view/ねこ-gif-24991081

[bitter brook]

twist the knife envenom buffs have independent timers??? is that a bug or normal

[proud dust]

unfortunately it's normal

[bitter brook]

D:

[proud dust]

it's like pooling but apparently 1000x harder

[bitter brook]

hahaha

[real granite]

nani

how is it harder? just play around the oldest buff

[bitter brook]

then half that talent gets unused

[real granite]

its not an issue

if you have energy to spare, spam envenom, if no bl or pi or big pull, just play around the older one and when you start lacking energy just let one of those fall off

[bitter brook]

gotcha

[real granite]

it will happen naturally you dont really need to think about it

[bitter brook]

ok i'll try it out 😄

[balmy condor]

it's like pooling except not

if you really want to

just full ignore envenom

and it's fine

[proud dust]

okay, just trying to figure out the rhythm and how often I'm supposed to be at 1 envenom stack no energy

[spice spire]

Never envenom

[balmy condor]

yeh like I'll give you the secret tech right

don't track envenom

don't track cooldowns that are on cooldown

don't track fatebound coins

macro cold blood to kingsbane

macro tea to shiv

don't track tea

and then just play game

it's legit just gar/rup and slam

[real granite]

damn boy, rogue is hard this season

[waxen sandal]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[vital flicker]

Can I still track slice and dice?

[balmy condor]

oh

right

don't track that either

or supercharge

don't track that either

[proud dust]

think the wowhead guide should just be these messages

[barren island]

After reading all of this, there is a better tech

Play ret

Doesnt need to track shit and play it on a garage controller

[scenic kiln]

in st is it ever worth proccing ctw to fish for momentum?

[balmy condor]

I actually think that ret has more to track than assa atm

if you like SUPER get rid of the "unnecessary" stuff

[barren island]

U kiddin

[balmy condor]

no

like it's opener

and then after opener

you have gar, rup

and nothing else

[real granite]

ctw

[barren island]

Have to keep both of them up, try to keep 2 stacks of envenom, shiv on X time of kb and before kb, vanish at the end of kb depending on subterfuge and MA

And so on

Ret = press shit

[tawdry crypt]

do I max darknest night in kb/dm windows

or just spam

[barren island]

Max dn?

[real granite]

you mean force 7cp for dn?

yeah you do

[barren island]

Always keep mark up

[wide sand]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[real granite]

dn is the highest priority actually

[balmy condor]

fatebound gaming

[willow rain]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[balmy condor]

like I'm not joking

I was playing fatebound on mythic ky'veza today

and I hid all the "unnecessary info"

this is what I was left with

outside of cds

[barren island]

How u time your shiv inside kb

[balmy condor]

when shiv is up the icon comes back

I was hiding cds when they're on cooldown

[real granite]

at this point just macro deathmark kb, shiv and tea to mutilate

[balmy condor]

so like on pull it's this

[oak tangle]

did you not read the line "outside of cd's" and then ask how you time inside cds?

[balmy condor]

I do my opener

[barren island]

Yeah lol

[balmy condor]

and then when my cooldowns are all on cooldown

they all disappear

[barren island]

By that logic ret can play on hidden ui

And just press things

[indigo mulch]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[stray adder]

yeah i think im just gonna stop target farming skardyn

[real granite]

i mean, im not joking, if you could macro them it wouldnt make a diff really, except sending cds when no dmg phases and shit...

[heavy elk]

If playing subterfuge in the hybrid M+ build do you put 1/2 lethality and 2/2 subterfuge or 2/2 lethality and 1/2 subterfuge

[real granite]

but the spec is just spam shit on cd rn

[icy acorn]

i was lucky enough for a wrathstone from ulduar and dont need to farm skardyn lmao

(just need to get it from vault lmao)

[balmy condor]

I mean you can't really cause there's a bunch of really short cds that you need to press for ret

assa has nothing shorter than 1 min in raids

cause you hold both shivs

so it's like 5 gcds for cooldowns -> nothing for 1 min -> 5 gcds for cooldowns -> nothing for 1 min

it's pretty free

[barren island]

Do a cast sequence and w/e, there's almost to none prio

[obtuse ruin]

Can anyone explain how super charger works with applying darkest night proc? Can I finish on 5 cp with 2 supercharger to apply max envenom?

[balmy condor]

yeah fair enough

[wide sand]

yes

[barren island]

Just looking out to 7 cp on dn is more work than any ret that just zug zug

Unless you are a ret that use the whole kit

Like 1% of them if anything

[wide sand]

just be a rogue who dont use darkest night, zugzug

[stray adder]

Yo whisp, in m+, do you hold shiv between kb windows if you don't need to soothe something

[real granite]

darkest night? more like blackest eye PUMPUM

[vital flicker]

This is the guy saying to just send CDs clearly they don't know assassination rogues

[balmy condor]

Damn true

Don’t let reddit find my logs

[waxen oyster]

nah whispyr

need the 2000th person telling you

how gameplay ruining auto tea is

[indigo mulch]

Hmm, can i just macro kb and cb? oO

[waxen oyster]

doesnt cb only trigger off envs

for fatebound

[balmy condor]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Yeah, macroing it to kingsbane is a timing thing

[indigo mulch]

Yeah exactly, so then you only use it in your shiv window since htats with kb

[waxen oyster]

yeah like idk how much it matters

since cb can only be spent on one spell

[balmy condor]

Well it matters a lot if you fuck up edge case

[waxen oyster]

fair

[balmy condor]

But macroing it to kb is brain off works every time

[waxen oyster]

not as bad as sub when i accidentally press things too fast

and i fucking cb a

strike

or backstab

[balmy condor]

Fucking up edge case is like a 4% loss or something

Like it’s insano bad

[waxen oyster]

thats the thingy where

your next 2 flips

match the last

right?

[balmy condor]

No that’s deathmark flipping both

[buoyant cape]

dungeon slice for M+ simming or patchwork 5 targets?

[waxen oyster]

wasnt the cb talent

the one where your next 2 flips

[balmy condor]

Dungeonslice

[waxen oyster]

match the last one

[balmy condor]

Yes

[viral current]

i have a question about vanish:
*when do you vanish on a single target raid boss?
after 6s to refresh MA crits
*or just before deathmark runs out to refresh bleeds?

[buoyant cape]

ty brother

[waxen oyster]

and dm flipped both sides on pop

[balmy condor]

Last 6 of kb

[pliant coral]

is there a spell ID for supercharger i can use to see it on shadowed unit frames? i can see it in the blizz UI but i can't see a buff for it :\

[viral current]

based ty