assassination

[waxen oyster]

vs no cd

[hallow token]

mailbox toys share a cooldown though, yeah?

[royal lantern]

how often do you need a mailbox out in the wilds asap but have no toy rdy

[eager gazelle]

personally I am waiting for the $150 mount that has an ah and a mailbox and a crafting table and it farms herbs for you

[quick mesa]

Sure, but a brutosaur with a mailbox is still better than a brutosaur without a mailbox

[brazen fern]

Ive seen new fuu sim's with zoldyck dungeonslice - wowhead doesnt show these as recommended. Is anyone playing zoldyck in keys?

[proper hare]

yeah its just a lil coinflip, just dont have anything to replace it with

[waxen oyster]

i mean realistically knife is your best passive trinket

until myth track passive

[median igloo]

Myth track ritual knife when

[waxen oyster]

oh god

delve spamming every week

[quick mesa]

Raidbots still puts sacbrood > knife regardless of fight type for me. I don’t understand why

[waxen oyster]

is your sac myth

[quick mesa]

Yes (kek)

[raven trench]

yooo guys is the best spec MA now or still the old talents ?

[fringe edge]

delve got 0 patch notes, prolly never

[waxen oyster]

[earnest hare]

Quick noob question here, why do we garrotte during darkest night buff? either im misreading the tooltip or what ever...

[waxen oyster]

yeah thats why

[stray adder]

I don't want them forcing me to delve

hell no

[waxen oyster]

my bran is 55

[thorn fjord]

Because ambushing during DN does nothing currently

[waxen oyster]

i might be mentally ill

[stray adder]

aware

[thorn fjord]

You want to consume DN before applying a new mark

[eager gazelle]

you gonna have to do 8x level 11 delves to get myth track

[quick mesa]

It’s just interesting because according to bloodmallet even myth track sacbrood should fall to middle of the pack on 3+

[thorn fjord]

im at 24 grim batols currently lmao

[median igloo]

I'm still fishing for hero track ritual knife unfort

[waxen oyster]

yeah i mean if you hate yourself

you can just spam delves

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

until zek spawns

[raven trench]

yooo guys is the best spec MA now or still the old talents ?

[quick mesa]

I was around that and then vault blessed me with myth track grace

[proper hare]

i would do it

[quick mesa]

Now I never need to set foot in that godforsaken place again

[sour oasis]

WHyspir

when u say that killed pooling

[eager gazelle]

guides updated, read before whispyr gets you

[sour oasis]

so

[waxen oyster]

isnt whispyr at 60

[earnest hare]

ahh ic okay thanks, and i guess garrotting saves the buff for a finisher? while ambushing uses it but no benefit?

[waxen oyster]

the voices are getting louder

[sour oasis]

we dont care to be below 30energy and auto proc ??

[raven trench]

which one of the guides ?

[eager gazelle]

wowhead

[proper hare]

its w/e

[median igloo]

Did flensing get hot fixed yet?

[sour oasis]

sorry for my bad english but what means w/e

[eager gazelle]

yes, it is removed

[quick mesa]

Whatever

[fringe edge]

dang I got a myth track skardyns in vault this week... but I'm an outlaw

[sour oasis]

thanks

[balmy condor]

Pins

[final wolf]

can someone really good help me understand this spec? i can send my log and just roast me on what the actual fuck im supposed to do

[quick mesa]

Swap assa and profit

[tawny geyser]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GkmXKwHLfQtN2PJC#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=189

meh... @balmy condor just killed Bloodhound, didn't work 😢

[median igloo]

Damn i just checked pins at lunch too

[raven trench]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[slim pebble]

Just stop playing outlul

[grizzled ember]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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LE's Group
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Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[severe canyon]

I got a question for the pro rogues. Do you play around Sanguine Blades? I always play energy starve

[sour oasis]

it's not a big huge of dps lost to not control our tea in raid ?

[balmy condor]

Yes, you try to stay under 50% energy

[balmy condor]

0.18%

[sour oasis]

ahahahah

let's go spam my envenom

[half dawn]

Does anyone remember the name of the script for plater that shows mob abilities when they are on CD?

[waxen oyster]

i feel like

you have to try to drop to 30 energy

in raid build

[severe canyon]

what point is there to enery starve?

especially due to sanguine

[late surge]

with the MA one if u just perma pandemic

sometimes I got so much energy

[wispy epoch]

Anyone have a m+ weak aura that tells me when to use feint on avoidable aoe dmg

Ty

[past osprey]

So i am new rogue, is there any omega good trinket / weap or w/e in blackrock depths?

[late surge]

@balmy condor is there any reason to play under 50% if u dont play SB?

[wispy epoch]

Go sim on raidbot newb

[balmy condor]

No

[balmy condor]

No

[late surge]

so I just pandemic the double envenoms

without overcapping energy

or am I griefing

[balmy condor]

Yes

[sour oasis]

it's incredible

[late surge]

ty

my goat whispyr

[sour oasis]

the double tea buff during our bvurst

[balmy condor]

More envenoms

[sour oasis]

is only 0,18% optimization

[waxen oyster]

ngl i only pop my first one in opener

[late surge]

I do on second shiv

[waxen oyster]

energy levels in opener are

[late surge]

or whenever im not capped in opener 8)

[balmy condor]

No like macroing tea to shiv is optimal

[waxen oyster]

[balmy condor]

Autoproccing tea is -0.18%

[waxen oyster]

if you get blindside procs its like

perma energy

[main pumice]

I have never felt as energy starved as I do after the thistle tea change

[onyx musk]

supercharger back on the menu or?

[balmy condor]

What

[late surge]

for m+?

[balmy condor]

You have the same energy

[sour oasis]

for raid

[late surge]

only time I cry

[balmy condor]

[late surge]

is if it procs on feint

in m+

at end of pull

xd

[onyx musk]

idk feel like ive played 50 spec variants and none of them feel good rn

in M+

[main pumice]

Before it was controlled

[hushed island]

I really wish they removed the auto use

[balmy condor]

I’m gonna lose it

[main pumice]

Well instead u could tell us how to do it right then if u know

[balmy condor]

I have

Everywhere

Literally right above

[late surge]

when do u proc auto tea

not aoe

barely in raid

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-dead-beating-gif-9285411

[severe canyon]

is it not worth opting for the envenom buff uptime?

[balmy condor]

You’re in the picture bro

[main pumice]

Ok then I don't understand

[eternal helm]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[harsh anchor]

Macro it and forget

[mighty rapids]

Im with king whysper i havent played a ton but hacent noticed much diff with auto proc. You still have tea for when it matters

[main pumice]

Sounds good 😂

[spice spire]

You can either macro to shiv.
Or take the 0.18% loss and just rawdog it

[balmy condor]

Staying above 30 energy and not autoproccing it is +0.18% dps

Otherwise you proc it with shiv

Gg

[shy pecan]

I haven’t had a chance to play it in actually content since the patch came in, but is there even energy problems? Seems like there isn’t

[main pumice]

Ok thank u guys

[spice spire]

There’s plenty of gains you can do to mitigate that unless ur just a GIGA gamer

[spice spire]

In dungeon st

[eager gazelle]

why does the sim prefer macroing it to shiv and not using it 1-2 sec later to cover the last KB tick?

[spice spire]

Otherwise I’m raid

[late surge]

actually

[spice spire]

I’m amazed

[waxen oyster]

in raid there is 0

[spice spire]

If I ever use it

[late surge]

dungeon ST feels bad

[main pumice]

I just feel like I have to hold so much back now due to that auto use

[spice spire]

Like on silken

[late surge]

if u dislike auto tea procs

[waxen oyster]

you are like perma above 200 energy

[severe canyon]

which means i should not spam envenom and energy starve...?

[waxen oyster]

in your opener

[livid spear]

does meld work in m+? gonna do a race change xD

[main pumice]

But if it is a dps gain to hold then sure

[spice spire]

I legit don’t think I could use all my charges

[sour oasis]

and in mm+ its same loss ?

[onyx musk]

dung ST feels omega bad ngl

[late surge]

u pandemic envenoms without overcapping energy

[shy pecan]

Yeah, seemed like you had way too much energy in ST on dummies

[spice spire]

M+ like you’ll never proc it

Unless you’re constantly fighting

One thing at a time

[thorn fjord]

boss fights sure

[waxen oyster]

im still doing over a mil st

[balmy condor]

Yes

[waxen oyster]

with standard wowhead hybrid

idk

[quick mesa]

Yeah there’s a list of casts somewhere that can be melded

[spice spire]

Outside of boss fights which I said above

[hearty kestrel]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[thorn fjord]

Come down below

👀

[spice spire]

Gonna call u below

[kind heron]

!macro

!macros

[proper hare]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[dawn kelp]

I miss extra combo points from garrote now

[proper hare]

otherwise just macro skardyns with pot and deathmark

[wary valley]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[waxen oyster]

/use deathmark
/use 14

only real assa macro

[spice spire]

You seemed to use the wrong number

13 only enjoyers

[waxen oyster]

if you use 13 for your on use

[spice spire]

[waxen oyster]

get help

[spice spire]

Buddy I already did

[stray adder]

13 is diabolical

[spice spire]

I’m objectively correct

[thorn fjord]

Numbers are diabolical

[balmy condor]

I tried, I’m on therapist #9

[spice spire]

[haughty flicker]

people will find literally anything to argue about damn

[thorn fjord]

I change the trinket name in the macro

[steel geyser]

use on 13 is criminal

[stray adder]

it's not you Whisp, it's them

[spice spire]

(I’m not serious lmfao)

[livid spear]

isnt is hella stupid to macro pot in m+ xD?

[balmy condor]

Real

[fading sonnet]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[balmy condor]

Why would it be

[spice spire]

What if you have double on use? Huh?

Checkmate pal

[weary spear]

Does shiv macro suck if you’re using 2 charges of shiv?? Like wouldn’t that spend 2 charges in our opener when energy is a non-issue

[haughty flicker]

i know but a surprising amount of people responded lmao

[livid spear]

have it up on bosses?

[spice spire]

Also sims use 13 first

[subtle tundra]

same puddle hits twice in .4 sec

gg

[balmy condor]

You don’t want extra stats when you press deathmark?

[thorn fjord]

If you’re broke just say so

[spice spire]

[thin portal]

How much sin dmg should I be doing at 604 ilvl. Sim has me at 700k while outlaw is 800k. Even full mastery gear.

[waxen oyster]

idk i hate playing with pres

i just feel dead

[shadow patio]

I Do! I Do!

[waxen oyster]

cuz mf is in uganda with trex arms

[balmy condor]

I hear Uganda is nice this time of year

[thorn fjord]

Uganda tickle DN?

[slate crown]

wtf

did anyone else's warband

get shuffed?

[spice spire]

No?

[thorn fjord]

Shuffed?

[balmy condor]

Wish I was someone else’s warband rn

[spice spire]

I assume shuffled

[slate crown]

character screen, all the random level 10s

were just at the top

[thorn fjord]

Oh weird

[slate crown]

on my campfire

[spice spire]

[slate crown]

mains were way down

no idea

[spice spire]

Interesting warband decision le

[thorn fjord]

Damn your WB pulled a toy story

[spice spire]

Hey king

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

i got 2 warbound dreadful tier tokens

in the span of 30 minutes

[thorn fjord]

Bet you had a mini heart attack lmao

[shadow patio]

Anyone ever try bananas dipped in mayo?

[slate crown]

Oh I did

[thin portal]

Ew

[shadow patio]

Heard it’s bkmb

[spice spire]

Fdk whispering to xiani like the green goblin mask

[thorn fjord]

Someone ban this person

[marble fulcrum]

Hihi, new to assa and chat goes a bit fast to read everything, do you guys macro the pot in M+? If so which cd?

[spice spire]

Mods

[spice spire]

DM is a good one

[balmy condor]

@keen spruce new shower orange idea

[thorn fjord]

Deathmark

[spice spire]

Death mark

Sorry

[onyx musk]

anyone tried dashing ttk in m+

[marble fulcrum]

Awesome ty guys

[spice spire]

Cease

Glhf homie

[balmy condor]

Dashing is super overkill

[onyx musk]

yeah probably

[bright turret]

Was the flensing knives bug around for all of warthin, or did it get fixed and re-added with patch?

[spice spire]

Dashing for what energy

[balmy condor]

All of war within

[onyx musk]

idk playing TTK MA kinda feels like shit rn

[livid spear]

bro

[balmy condor]

We reported in August btw :3

[bright turret]

ok interesting

[balmy condor]

July?

End of July

[bright turret]

I reported to an insider 2 days ago

[waxen oyster]

how

[bright turret]

Makes me wonder if devs aren't sending these bugs to right people

[balmy condor]

Yeah they’ve known for MUCH longer bro

[livid spear]

opening without cp from garroth, dont u waste alot of time getting bleeds up for m+ then ?

[keen spruce]

[waxen oyster]

release another store mount

[sour oasis]

the first shiv + tea we over enegy

we dotn care about this

i understand

[balmy condor]

Very based

[sour oasis]

thanks @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

Tea is for mastery fuck the haters

[onyx musk]

dunno opener feels clunky, still feels like i do 0 ST and my opener is just 3 more gcds

[sour oasis]

❤️

like we aid in french

Force et Courage

[kind heron]

this patch makes me feel like I dont have enough buttons..

[balmy condor]

Yeah, what he said!

[waxen oyster]

Idk wtf clunky is supposed to mean here

it literally doesnt change

losing sb and sd doesnt change the st rotation

[pseudo cosmos]

clunky? its smoother imo

[spice spire]

Call me a hater

[onyx musk]

im talking in a dungeon setting

[bright turret]

is deathmark randomly dropping the only nasty bug left for sin?

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i am too

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[pseudo cosmos]

wait what

[waxen oyster]

if you have MA you have more crits

more seal fate cp

no sb sucking your energy

[formal cliff]

how is it when you just dump tea and snd

[bright turret]

I know it's pinned, but if the root cause can get figured out, I can send it along

[balmy condor]

Amen

[livid spear]

do we vaniosh at 8 sec to reaply during cds or whats optimal ? and do we then spam reaply on as many targets as possible ?

[balmy condor]

Last 6 for ma

[kind heron]

no i mean, my bars seem empty now

[balmy condor]

Or 9 or 12

[formal cliff]

oh yeah for sure

[balmy condor]

If you’re running subt

[livid spear]

i am

[strange python]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[livid spear]

12 then

[formal cliff]

Whispyr when are you becoming a warlock creator

[late tusk]

Hello, its double dagger 636 first objetve of crests?

[livid spear]

is this good ? like it for cp garroth : CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAz2MmtZAAAAAAotlZmhHYmBzMzysNmZw8AzMzgxMbbLjZAWMLDMgFwywMghFA

[tacit otter]

hows the cooking going btw?:))

[formal cliff]

embelish better i guess

[livid spear]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFRRBUVUmJBCRRNVUVVFUZFQFJFQBFEVVVUCAA

[onyx musk]

you still have SB so

[split flame]

Is there a point in tracking ttk ? And is there any difference between that and normal envenom ?

[balmy condor]

I ate a bunch of cheese and am paying for my sins

[late tusk]

Ye i mean, after embellish, its about improving trinkets into 626 or craft the second qweapon **and embellish are 619 items rn

[mortal crystal]

If you can't get a myth one easily you can craft one. The OH is probably the lowest prio craft there is

[tacit otter]

i didnt expect less

ty

[formal cliff]

If you already have a main hand then you don't need it

[waxen oyster]

in ttk build? no

[late tusk]

ye thats the point, i got 1 and 2 embellish in wrist/wais 610

[waxen oyster]

unless you go 1 sob

[dull pulsar]

guys i need hard help idk wtf is happening

[glacial crypt]

We're here

Hello Sdeep

[onyx musk]

idk been trying this since casualaddict linked it

[dull pulsar]

since thistle tea is automatic, in m+ talents i trigger it too many times and i do USELESS single target damage

[mortal crystal]

I'd upgrade the 610 wrist/belt over an offhand, easily

[pseudo cosmos]

not a fan of SD tbh

[dull pulsar]

how can i counter that ?

[waxen oyster]

no bonespike

[onyx musk]

i understand that lmao

[split flame]

Anyone else doing shit dmg and massively energy starved from the hybrid M+ build during single target?

[formal cliff]

macro to shiv

[waxen oyster]

the node before it is kind of poop though

[onyx musk]

yeah idk even in 13s it just feels bad

[stray adder]

the no sbs build pumps though

[dull pulsar]

i did but bro it pops off automatically then i have no more charges during burst

[onyx musk]

maybe try no SB or smth

[keen viper]

Can u join 3rd boss with pugs mythic raid?

[formal cliff]

Then just get good

[livid spear]

i went like this to get more kp from garroth https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFRRBUVUmJBCRRNVUVVFUZFQFJFQBFEVVVUCAA is this ok or am i fckd?

[meager aspen]

NW 11, too hard with ele and ret blasting trash like dust

[dull pulsar]

Like manage better the energy ? and never drop below 30 ?

[subtle tundra]

@balmy condor idk if you cooked this already of anyone did
did you try garroting at the end of IC with subterfuge?

[formal cliff]

Yeah, if you're about to go into a burst window you shouldn't be at 0 energy

[restive quarry]

!Tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[balmy condor]

Yeh I have a cook for that, seems okay in aoe but idk how I want to add it

[subtle tundra]

also in ST?

even if not in pandemic

its like 9 sec

[balmy condor]

Was questionable but can probably make it work

[zenith cedar]

So is it looking like Subterfuge is a lock for M+ content?

[balmy condor]

Probably

[subtle tundra]

its so stronk

[zenith cedar]

With x2 vanish or single?

[subtle tundra]

no only cause of MA

[balmy condor]

Whichever you prefer tbh

[stray adder]

does sang sim higher than 2 x SoB for you

don't think thats a good trade but dont take my word for it

[livid spear]

so maybe drop sang then go double SoB?

[stray adder]

yeah

[zenith cedar]

I can see without a trace being pretty decent for keys

Adds a fair bit of flexibility and comfiness

[stray adder]

you're missing out on 10% agi

[livid spear]

5 targets 5 mins ? or whta is preffered sim method ? for m+ all is scuffed..

[waxen oyster]

you barely get more vanishes

💀

[stray adder]

dungeon slice

[livid spear]

okok

tnx

[waxen oyster]

if WaT made vanish cd 1min

it’d be better

[zenith cedar]

an extra charge over 30m key? Barely more?

how many pulls do you think are in a key? having vanish for basically every pull is quite strong

[stray adder]

how about pressing stealth lmao

[waxen oyster]

pretty sure @balmy condor checked it last season

[livid spear]

does meld work in m+ ? before i race change xD

[waxen oyster]

and it was like 3-4 more an entire key

[stray adder]

dwarf is bis

[tacit otter]

its super janky but works sometimes. but nothing to rely on tbh

[livid spear]

cant be fckd running round like a dwarf

[waxen oyster]

you should have stealth for most pulls unless your tank is doing some weird chains

[hasty prairie]

But i hate how dwarf looks 😦

[waxen oyster]

low hp chains are giga cringe

[royal python]

Whyspyr, fatebound sim sequencing is incorrect, without cold blood after deathmark in reality the next envenom will flip only one coin; the sim cold blood comes one envenom after deathmark, which is incorrect given the live implementation

[pliant silo]

Meld works sometimes

[stray adder]

if u wanna go nelf go nelf

[pliant silo]

Usually the fewer targets the better

Like I’m more likely to get a restealth outside giga aoe scenario

Not reliable like vanish

[balmy condor]

Yes I know, edge case got fixed literally 3 hours ago chill out

[waxen oyster]

because meld works like old stealth

any damage or movement will remove it

[royal python]

As in? I've been observing this in live since patch out

[balmy condor]

As in sims weren’t flipping it on deathmark properly

[pliant silo]

More importantly @livid spear meld breaks a bunch of relevant casts and is a nice defensive tool individually/pressure relief for the team

[balmy condor]

So the old logic had to stay to maintain flips

[royal python]

Ok thanks

[zenith cedar]

man the coin spec is kinda cringe i gotta admit

[livid spear]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[zenith cedar]

i bricked a 14 key because i hit an ability in stealth and it threw a coin at the boss last night

like why is that a thing

[runic hinge]

Was it slice and dice

[zenith cedar]

why is throwing coins out of combat

[vocal cypress]

any1 know if this BRD dagger with bleed is gonna be worth it at 6/6Hero?

[zenith cedar]

a thing

[pliant silo]

We call that an automatic cuck

[waxen oyster]

playing fatebound sin in a 14

it just has a chance to throw a coin on a finisher

[opaque sigil]

But at least I found second charge of vanish being at least something of value due to how good MA is
In 12+ keys you get another full MA duration + reapplication of imp garrote

[waxen oyster]

if its tails it does dam

[runic hinge]

@spice spire

[opaque sigil]

In a big pull

[zenith cedar]

yeah i see how it works its just giga cringe it can happen in stealth IMO

[spice spire]

Damn return

[zenith cedar]

out of combat in stealth**

[inland escarp]

What finisher did you press out of combat in stealth?

[vital dew]

does bubbling wax apply to both weapons again?

[zenith cedar]

SND obviously

[runic hinge]

Slice and dice for sure

[opaque sigil]

Another reason to get snd off bars

[short comet]

Old habits die hard for my man

[runic hinge]

I took it off bars so I wouldn’t press it like that

[zenith cedar]

i mean if youre gonna waste CP because they fall off its a dps increase

but in this particular instance it was giga fucked

[runic hinge]

If you’re staring at a boss is it a waste

[waxen oyster]

i feel its not a real dps loss

[runic hinge]

Like you had more then 5 combo points

[humble cradle]

sorry noob here, could someone explain what makes subterfuge good for m+? im assuming its somehting about the latter part of the description

[zenith cedar]

DPS is DPS but yeah its minimal

[waxen oyster]

its not like sin has cdr from spending cps

[runic hinge]

You coulda just not pressed it

[zenith cedar]

yeah i wasnt really thinking

locked in

[inland escarp]

You had combo points but snd was down?

[zenith cedar]

and then a coin shot out

of my body

and i cried

[runic hinge]

5 combo points

[dark viper]

Are ass rouge good right now? Im debating on starting a new toon or should I wait and see where blizzard takes them?

[runic hinge]

Let’s be clear. It doesn’t flip a coin under 5

[waxen oyster]

more surprised at the higher key level deathstalker isnt just

better

[zenith cedar]

it is

[topaz locust]

they nerfed spatter right for us?

[inland escarp]

Feel like i always have a lot of time left in snd

[zenith cedar]

better

[waxen oyster]

well yeah

[livid spear]

is crit flask better for aoe ?

[zenith cedar]

i was having fun

[waxen oyster]

chaos

[zenith cedar]

anwyays yea disable coins out of combat thxx

[waxen oyster]

”nerfed”

[novel star]

you still take alchemical chaos for better potion i think

[waxen oyster]

i mean technically but they buffed the spec

[topaz locust]

Feel like im miles off on broodkeeper compared to a week ago.....

[half lichen]

are we still riddled with bugs or did they fix it?

[novel star]

Pins

[grim jay]

its glorious, I'm partying inside

[vivid mulch]

What talent gives us the slice and dice buff now? since the rotation on wowhead doesn't have it anymore

[zenith cedar]

Cut to the Chase

[novel star]

Cut to the Chase got buffed

it applies x seconds of snd instead of extending snd by x

[waxen oyster]

playing worse

[novel star]

so like

[waxen oyster]

brood should honestly be nutty now

[novel star]

it works the same but just better cause you can have 0s snd

[waxen oyster]

with ttk changes etc

just slamming envs constantly into boss

[vivid mulch]

Where is cut to the chase sorry?

[novel star]

not a talent

passive on every spec

[vivid mulch]

Oh

[novel star]

we already had cut to the chase

[vivid mulch]

Ah ok

[novel star]

for years

its just buffed

[vivid mulch]

gotcha

[waxen oyster]

yeah snd atp is just

cosmetic

[novel star]

the effect that made envenom extend snd now makes envenom grant snd duration

[waxen oyster]

[ancient rain]

the supercharged cp doesn't have any buff that i can track?

[vivid mulch]

yop just blind

[novel star]

nope

no reason to track it

[ancient rain]

i have one

[novel star]

it doesnt change your rotation

[cold halo]

Press and forget

[hollow river]

there's been some WAs made for it

[waxen oyster]

it also got given to the other two specs

makes snd hyper pointless now

[cold halo]

One less button to press

[wary valley]

!fuu

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[waxen oyster]

atp the only diff not having the buff passive

is you not having it for the first 3-4 gcds

[cold halo]

True

[sullen steppe]

What do we do in burst aoe, stuff with low hp 5-10m range

[cobalt sphinx]

depends on what else is going on

[topaz locust]

eh maybe

[cobalt sphinx]

if there is a mob you can spatter off, then spatter them

for rashanan you just fan for combo points

[novel star]

literally no changes have been made other than buffs between now and a week ago

[indigo ginkgo]

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[novel star]

for the broodtwister build

so

[sacred schooner]

put ct on them

[topaz locust]

im just garbage

was doing like 2.5 now

[hoary scroll]

!tea

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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[topaz locust]

now I can't keep DS on the target and can't get above 2m

[hoary scroll]

can i use this !tea macro always in every situation or is it better to bind in seperate?

[grizzled ember]

On LE WA, whats the Dot next to Feint for? small blue dot top right corner

[slate crown]

charges

[novel star]

its techincally a 0.18% dps gain to play perfectly around tea like we did before

so if you care about that much (you dont)

then sure the macro is bad

[spice spire]

Maybe you don’t

But I’m different

[novel star]

I'm gonna make out with your soles

[livid spear]

should i wait untill my first 12 sec of MA falls of before deathmark into vanish ?

[spice spire]

[runic hinge]

[ancient rain]

if i track it i can decide faster if I want to envenom at 6 cp for deathstalker

[spice spire]

Your tea?

[grizzled ember]

!tea

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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[wary valley]

do you guys snipe energy with rupture on adds in raid fights, say on brood/Rash'anan?

[little cipher]

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[spice spire]

No

[spice surge]

No

[spice spire]

It’s just a net loss to do that

If it lives about over 7s you’re free to rupture

[spice surge]

You would need to spend all of the energy you just gained from doing that just to end up with the same CP you had before the rupture to begin with

[vivid mulch]

What was the cut to the chase passive before the buff?

[spice spire]

But those adds get turbo fucked so nah

[spice spire]

Envenom extended snd

[coral ibex]

extend snd duration

[vivid mulch]

Just that envenom extends it and doesn't start it?

[spice spire]

Yeah

[coral ibex]

now it adds

[vivid mulch]

Yeah its insane

Love it

What other big buffs did we get?

[royal python]

has rashanan caustic spatter range been fixed ?

[spice spire]

It was never broken

[wary valley]

great thanks!

[spice spire]

That’s just design

[royal python]

of course it was

you cant hit boss and spatter onto adds sitting in front of boss

[spice spire]

Yeah because spatter goes from the center of the mob you’re hitting

Not the edges

[pastel onyx]

hello check

[tranquil birch]

If you look at rash all logs besides mythic take internal bleeding anyway🤷‍♂️

[spice spire]

That’s why you can’t on horror either.
But the adds spatter to horror

[tranquil birch]

Top logs*

[spice spire]

[spice spire]

Nah rank 1 spattered

[pastel onyx]

I think ur name trying to say something

not sure what

[royal python]

they take internal bleeding cause spatter does 0 damage, its bugged

[tranquil birch]

Whaaa

[pastel onyx]

[spice spire]

But they teched it

It’s not bugged at all - spatter just works this way

[winged quail]

Wait spatter comes from the centre of mob rather than edge? That explains a lot

[spice spire]

Yes

[royal python]

works what way, boss is sitting right there in front of adds, center or sides, whichever way you look at it

[spice spire]

[spice spire]

Okay where’s the boss’s center

[chilly mist]

Have anything been changed with DN dissapearing?

[cobalt sphinx]

it's not a bug

[winged quail]

Yeah spatter on Rash is useless unless ads are right inside him

[tranquil birch]

Ok well 99% of the top 100 heroic logs take internal bleeding

[spice spire]

Oh I was talking mythic

[tranquil birch]

In mythic you splatter

[spice spire]

But yeah it’s an ib boss unless you’re getting made

[royal python]

ive done mythic, it still does 0 damage

i played internal

[pastel onyx]

how is it related to mythic

[cobalt sphinx]

it's probably good on mythic if you have a strat that groups them tight under the boss

[spice spire]

Adds live longer

[tranquil birch]

Adds are up longer

[spice spire]

And yeah

But boss’s center

Off the map

[royal python]

adds up longer, but spatter no range 😄

[spice spire]

8y from off the map

[hybrid sky]

!tea

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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

It’s not bugged

It’s just the functionality

[royal python]

are you saying i switch target spatter onto add ?

[spice spire]

Yeah if you spatter

Or your guild mega groups

Right at edge

[cobalt sphinx]

spatter is useful for when dumbasses get webbed under the boss

[earnest remnant]

just full st rashanan

[chilly mist]

Just rupture them for free energy

and people think that u are helping, win win

[golden prairie]

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[spice spire]

UHM actually mister raccoon man rank 1 went spatter

But again

The guild set that r1 up

[waxen oyster]

does anyone know

[spice spire]

99% of the time you’re not spattering those adds

[waxen oyster]

if you can buy tokens again

[royal python]

ya that's my point

all practicality there's no range

[novel veldt]

!fuu

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[spice spire]

Correct which is why you don’t spatter that fight and you won’t unless your guild is giving you the homie parse

[waxen oyster]

also tbf i feel there's no GOOD reason to not stack adds under rash

[spice spire]

But that’s how the talent is designed

[royal python]

idc about parse

[waxen oyster]

it's just having to play properly

[earnest remnant]

loosin my mind on ansurek

straight tweaking

[spice spire]

Bit of a pisser eh

[waxen oyster]

not stacking adds on rash is usually due to

poor positioning

tbh

[forest nacelle]

nothing new 😄

[waxen oyster]

also stealthi did you get forced to go gnome

[earnest remnant]

i forced myself

yes

to make it a joke mechanic

[waxen oyster]

F

[forest nacelle]

wait for the webs?

[potent rune]

is there any heroic gear (mainly trinkets) from the new raid BRD that is a must for us?

[earnest remnant]

yes to break roots

[spice spire]

No

[sleek ridge]

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[past marten]

I thought adds didn't even count for parses on rash?

[spice spire]

That changed on reset to new patch

[heavy canopy]

I just did 2nd most damage on Rasha'nan. 1st place got an 80% ilvl parse, I got an 8% ilvl parse. What the hell, are sin rogues usually OP on that boss?

[cobalt sphinx]

rash adds are back

[old hedge]

is this still accurate?

[cobalt sphinx]

sin is op on that boss yes

[heavy canopy]

I must be playing it very poorly lmao

[cobalt sphinx]

timings are perfect and execute is more than half the fight

[spice spire]

It starts at 60% and we have a lot of execute

You literally can’t go out of energy

[thorn fjord]

Eggs are cute

[balmy condor]

haven't fixed the tea yet

otherwise yes

[spice spire]

It’s so hard

[cobalt sphinx]

kingsbane comes up on every phase

[heavy canopy]

Maybe I was using wrong talents lol

[old hedge]

so it is shiv+tea before kb?

[balmy condor]

yes

shiv+tea macro'd

[old stirrup]

don't i lose 2s uptime on shiv buff by macroing tea?

[balmy condor]

what

you press shiv like you normally would

[old stirrup]

Useally pressing shiv on 8s left on KB and 6s Tea

[balmy condor]

yeah so if you macro

shiv would be 8s left

and tea would be 8s left

[thorn fjord]

[forest nacelle]

[balmy condor]

I am confused

[old stirrup]

so am i xD

[thorn fjord]

Hi confused I'm Dieslow!

[cobalt sphinx]

tea misses the final 2 seconds of kingsbane so it is a slight damage loss

[hearty kestrel]

i thinks he means sending shiv+tea at 6s

[balmy condor]

it isn't though

[past marten]

So "wasting energy" by macroing tea and during your opener (with lust) is the optimal play then?

[balmy condor]

it's neutral

[balmy condor]

during any cooldown yes

[cobalt sphinx]

neutral because it's within margin?

[chilly mist]

lol

[balmy condor]

neutral because I simmed it with a 0.02% error margin and it was within that yes

[old stirrup]

I guess it's fine since first shiv can be upkept untill last 6s of KB

[fervent relic]

anyone tried fate in m+?

[chilly mist]

we have 3 buttons, why macro

[slate crown]

you have to get lucky

[balmy condor]

are we going to argue about a 0.02% error margin

[slate crown]

and click buy at the right time

[woven ruin]

How are people keeping track of both Envenoms now?

[cobalt sphinx]

it's a technicality

it is less kingsbane damage, but not measurable in any way

[past marten]

Feels bad, but if that's how it ended up simming. One button less to press I suppose.

[cobalt sphinx]

and therefore not worth the effort

[candid geyser]

sandbagger intentionally does 0.02% less damage

[old stirrup]

I see

[balmy condor]

aight we're doing this then I guess

[spice spire]

[old stirrup]

nah i was just curious not saying im in the right

[pliant silo]

Delaying first tea usage by 2sec is -0.001% overall in an m+ gg

[cerulean nest]

here's a question I'm sure everyone's gonna hate. I have the M ovinax trinket but obviously am not "playing around it" super hard other than a couple times a fight when it's very easy to get the right stacks with few mechanics. is there any kind of sim/logic about it being better or worse than other trinkets based on how "optimal" you use the trinket or literally does it not matter at all?

[cold halo]

You guys run alchemical chaos for m+ or any other more stat specific flask

[balmy condor]

@cobalt sphinx if we have 50 stacks kingsbane with 8s left and we press tea, is it less kingsbane damage or the same kingsbane damage

[grizzled ember]

Anyone recommend a good M+ portal WA/addon?

[cobalt sphinx]

sure if kingsbane is fully stacked then it is perfectly neutral with respect to kingsbane damage

[balmy condor]

aight cool thanks

we agree then

[slate crown]

!wa Packs below have tracking, if you want a standalone version LE Collection has a WA for it

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[quiet oar]

@grim jay 633 now

[late surge]

hax

[balmy condor]

cause that's 50 stacks of kb -> tea

[late surge]

new kyveza bug spawned in my raid

[balmy condor]

[late surge]

the rift tped

[slate crown]

50 stacks of tea?

shit you fixed it

[quiet oar]

Didnt you know?

You can just buy more

[slate crown]

mmmm

[quiet oar]

Imagine being capped at 3

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-penguin-stare-interesting-pudgy-gif-7369438455274653557

[grizzled ember]

It comes with the new mount.

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/seulisasoo-tea-spill-the-tea-gif-5497444953666130940

[late surge]

yeah it has vendor on it

[quiet oar]

you get + tea on your AH mount

and you buy a fury nerf

[slate crown]

oh nice

I'm alrady there then

[wintry pagoda]

whats class tree lookin like for m+ fatebound now that we'd ideally want subterfuge?

[worthy laurel]

So with Subterfuge and MA, you should be vanishing for KB yes?

[wintry pagoda]

Do we just sac cold blood and take the other choicenode in herotalents for higher match chances?

[paper tangle]

!tea

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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

agony

[cobalt sphinx]

kingsbane stacks much slower without death mark though to be fair

[vernal shadow]

Have you had people get selected by 2 lines at once?

[balmy condor]

bro fuck off

[late surge]

yeah me

feint + evasion giga

[wintry pagoda]

imagine hopping from warlock to ur rogue, to be hit with agony

[balmy condor]

how is this the hill you're dying on

[last oasis]

that's not a bug, if you have people dead, it will go on people who've gotten it recently. if you've had enough dead, you can see an asterisks form from you (^:

[cobalt sphinx]

i don't get what the issue is, i am just trying to look at it logically

[novel star]

i press kingsbane and i press tea and i

never looked at kb stacks in my life

maybe thats why im bad

[pliant silo]

If you want consistent peace of mind that you’re getting max value you are probably correct

[balmy condor]

logically it doesn't make a difference

[vernal shadow]

We had it happen with everyone alive

[balmy condor]

like it's just insane overthinking to be like "hmmm yes the sim ran 175 thousand fights, and then compared it to another 175 thousand fights, and it can't tell the difference, HOWEVER"

[viscid spear]

She just doesn't like you

[cobalt sphinx]

it stemmed from the person asking why we don't cover the last two seconds of kingsbane with tea

[last oasis]

There seems to be some visual bugs where the mechanic visual shows, but the actual "damage" portion of it is delayed by several seconds. This is really noticable in Council and Ansurak, maybe it's the same delays occurring in Kyvezza

[vernal shadow]

How can you say it’s not a bug it’s an instant wipe on mythic and there’s enough people alive that could have been targeted

[cobalt sphinx]

and logically it would make sense to do that, but in practice it doesn't have any impact

[balmy condor]

whatever

[pliant silo]

So should we be tracking our kingsbane stacks and shivving at 50

I guess you will never gain a shiv really

[bleak ledge]

this is a dumb question whispyer, with supercharger working if we have it up we finish at 5 right. for darkest night

[balmy condor]

no

[balmy condor]

you can

doesn't make a difference though

[pearl thorn]

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[pliant silo]

But for an m+ aoe pull you’d prob want to shiv as early as possible for like... stronger earlier cleave no?

[pure star]

any subterfuge enjoyers?

[bleak ledge]

finishing with any supercharged cp will do it?

[cobalt sphinx]

i don't think shiv scales aoe unless you have the aoe shiv talent

and two shivs covers all of kingsbane anyway

[balmy condor]

as long as you consume it

[pliant silo]

Shiv scales your damage via spatter I thought

[balmy condor]

it does not

shiv is a target damage taken increase

[pliant silo]

Bet

[balmy condor]

so unless you're shivving an off-target

you're not increasing the damage of caustic

[pliant silo]

Just intuitively spatter is like taking the damage dealt to target and spreading some % of that

[worthy laurel]

Its going to take time to get use to subterfuge for me. I'm used to my action bar switching from stealth to non stealth on pull

[storm zinc]

Any of the brd loot worth grinding?

[pliant silo]

But it’s pre-modifier

[balmy condor]

no

[balmy condor]

yeh but it's like blade flurry

you're dealing X damage and spreading it, the target is taking increased damage

if it did damage after target damage taken you'd have really giga fucked situations

[livid spear]

should i use ambush as builder during subtrfuge?

or only as opener?

[cobalt sphinx]

do mobs with 90% damage reduction still spatter full damage?

[balmy condor]

like the situation I like to do is imagine you have silken court, but they had a mechanic where they BOTH took 100% increased damage, not just one

[worthy laurel]

only if you need to apply deathstalkers mark

[livid spear]

okok

[worthy laurel]

If you have darkest night you skip it.

[livid spear]

so does aubterfuge change anything ?

[worthy laurel]

depending on target count tbf*

[royal python]

I'm able to ramp up coins to counts of 11-12 without getting lucky coin

[balmy condor]

you would be doing more damage with the caustic damage from envenom, than the actual original envenom, if target modifiers worked

[balmy condor]

yeh if you skip 7 it doesn't proc

[royal python]

😄

[balmy condor]

if it's only them taking reduced damage, yes

[royal python]

Fix that before fix outlaw wth

[normal mist]

I'm really cool now right? (2nd boss)

[cobalt sphinx]

cool yeah i just checked, spatter off mistcaller hits the clones during the guessing game even with 100% reduced damage taken

[balmy condor]

self-buffs work, target modifiers do not

yep

so now, pop quiz

amplifying poison, does it buff caustic or not

like the envenom damage buff it does

[drowsy hatch]

Trick question I wake of ashes instead

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[visual flume]

What actually constitutes “applying a lethal poison” for KB?

“Each time you apply a Lethal Poison to a target affected by Kingsbane, Kingsbane damage increases by 20%, up to 1000%.”

[cobalt sphinx]

gonna guess yes because of the wording of the tooltip

[pliant silo]

Vanish ambush to apply dsm

Wait

[balmy condor]

that's correct

because even though it's a debuff on the target, the target isn't the one taking more envenom damage, it's consuming the stacks of the debuff on the target to buff the envenom and buffing the envenom means caustic does more damage

[drowsy hatch]

Every application of deadly and amp / technically instant poison but you won't take that

[inner current]

stupid question, im sorry, but do i play around darkest night in m+? Like i need one more combo point to finish on max points, do i multilate again? isnt the rule to finish at 5 cp? help please 😄

[royal python]

Auto attack, mutilate applications, ambush application, n poisoned knife

[visual flume]

Cool. Ty

[balmy condor]

you always want to consume darkest night as soon as possible

[visual flume]

Is it something we should track? Or is it pointless?

[balmy condor]

the kingsbane stacks?

pointless

[drowsy hatch]

Nah just use as much stuff as possible

You'll cap it out

[visual flume]

Cool ty

[late tusk]

Im missing the talent that consumes caustic Spatter

[balmy condor]

what

[drowsy hatch]

Nothing consumes caustic

[balmy condor]

nothing consumes spatter

[drowsy hatch]

It's just a debuff on a target

[balmy condor]

yeh

[late tusk]

why i lose it then?

[balmy condor]

it has a 10 second duration

[drowsy hatch]

Cause you didn't reapply it

[balmy condor]

or you moved it to another target

[strange python]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[visual flume]

Have to mutilate a target with rupture on it

[raven egret]

are you re-applying it...?

[late tusk]

Yes

I mean, i feel that there are times that it dissapear

[pliant silo]

You need rupture on target. Mutilate that target

[drowsy hatch]

Probably lost rupture

[late tusk]

at 3-4 seconds

[dull pulsar]

do you have a weak aura to perfectly alingn shiv 6 secs after kingsbane ?

[balmy condor]

[late tusk]

ah

it can be the rupture

[pliant silo]

You are accidentally mouseover mutilating a different target I bet

[drowsy hatch]

Well it doesn't disappear like that

[balmy condor]

no

I just track the first shiv

[drowsy hatch]

So that's another thang

[balmy condor]

and when the first shiv falls gg second shiv

or in m+ I have kingsbane

[late tusk]

If i lose ruptuire i lose it?

[balmy condor]

and when kingsbane says 8

[raven egret]

nah even if rup falls the debuff stays if it was already on

[balmy condor]

I shiv

[drowsy hatch]

No you just can't reapply it

[late tusk]

mmmm

[worthy laurel]

Sorry, another question. Is it Vanish>Deathmark>Kingsbane or Deathmark>Kingsbane>Vanish?

[late tusk]

Will try to check it more

[somber zodiac]

did the m+ build change for rogues at all? are we not taking twist the knife in keys?

[dull pulsar]

great thanks

[drowsy hatch]

You wanna vanish at the last few seconds of dm and kb

Not the start

[dull pulsar]

i was wondering about m+ mostly

[worthy laurel]

Doesn't MA give the the 25% crit for 12 seconds?

[visual flume]

also, can someone explain like I’m 5 the ER replacement. Supercharger or whatever?

[drowsy hatch]

If you have MA of course.

[pliant silo]

If MA and subt, you vanish at 12sec remaining on kingsbane is my understanding

[raven egret]

theres some that go subterfuge + 2x vanish in keys now shrug so far no need to change what works if you dont feel like it, but other stuff works

[drowsy hatch]

If you have subt yeah then do it early

[worthy laurel]

Sorry yes I do have subterfuge now.

[humble verge]

are the best trinkets still sacbrood/skardyn?

[muted aspen]

Hey! Hello! :)
Is it worth going deeper beyond 1/2 Supercharger?

[zealous wolf]

I feel like MA builds arent that great in sub 14/15keys

[drowsy hatch]

Then doing it after kb is good

[drowsy hatch]

As far as I can tell never

[worthy laurel]

What you need to know if you have it talented is nothing. It does not change your rotation at all. Still use shiv when you were going to. Still consume combo points as if it didn't exist.

[raven egret]

supercharger is quite underwhelming

[spice spire]

It skardyns plus several other potential trinkets.
Could be mandate sac spyglass mercurial or what have you

[pliant silo]

Transmitter gang

[dull pulsar]

i just hate the automatic tea change honestly

[pseudo cosmos]

phat spyglass

[drowsy hatch]

Crystal gang here

[raven egret]

blerk transmitter, never!

[pseudo cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-looking-glass-gif-21970143

[spice spire]

Oh i forgot crystal

[humble verge]

i am running sacbrood spyglass rn

[thorn fjord]

Ive only managed a Crystal

[humble verge]

just wanna get the skardyn now..

[thorn fjord]

its nice

[spice spire]

Wrath stone is also good fwiw

But timewalking stinky

[thorn fjord]

my Grace adventures

[spice spire]

Let me check whispyr’s rq

[pseudo cosmos]

got a 639 glass and queens madate cause skardins wont drop

[humble verge]

well thats the total

[merry bison]

34 Grim runs and not a zero trinket drop

[pliant silo]

Automatic tea could have been left out of the patch but it does make the class easier for people with only two fingers

One on each hand

[raven egret]

took me 67 runs to get my skardyn

[humble verge]

started farming around here

[thorn fjord]

We're all so cooked

[humble verge]

ive seen 3 skardyns

[merry bison]

oh nawr

[humble verge]

2 for a hunter

1 warband.

[distant plinth]

Im so glad i got it in vault… the worst part is that i got it 2 weeks a row

[thorn fjord]

I've seen one skardyns and it was warbound that went to healer

[visual flume]

Ty @worthy laurel
Appreciate it

[humble verge]

I GOT IT IN VAULT BUT OFCOURSE I HAD TO GET A MYTH DAGGERRRRRRR AAAAAAAA

[kindred hinge]

Less than 5 run. Just bough it from one guy that did 60+ run

[spice spire]

Oh he’s only at 42

[thorn fjord]

ONLY

[humble verge]

literally my 1st vault

was myth dagger

[distant plinth]

Fuuuuuck, thats a hard decision

[raven egret]

wait, you took a dagger instead of Myth Skardyn?

[humble verge]

no hero

[raven egret]

oh

ok

nvm

[humble verge]

i only did one 10 at that time

[thorn fjord]

Just mythic raid and its an easy decision

[spice spire]

I got 1st hero run

Couldn’t trade

Otherwise I would have

[distant plinth]

Yea can just pug x4 mythic these days now

[visual flume]

What’s the auto tea change?
Sorry. I’ve been on night shifts 😂
Missed all the panic.

[fringe surge]

guys i am underperforming at single target, i dont uderstand why, i am 0 energy all fight, any tips ?

[thorn fjord]

Dagger drops off second boss

[visual flume]

Is thistle tea cast automatically at a threshold or something?

[humble verge]

yeah, but would rather time than spend an hour in pug

[pliant silo]

Simply auto-drinks tea at 30 energy

[humble verge]

30 energy

[drowsy hatch]

Casts at 30 energy

[quiet oar]

Yeah, because you are cute + W + goat + cool dog + ratio + i love you

[visual flume]

wtf

[pliant silo]

Which is like... empty energy for assa but not sub

[visual flume]

I don’t like that

[spice spire]

Damn I’m gonna blush king

[pliant silo]

No real upside, game just manages your tea and accidentally allowing that to happen is a small loss

[visual flume]

Can you turn it off? What if you’re saving tea for next pull or something?

[drowsy hatch]

Macro to shiv and be at peace friend

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

don’t go below 30

[pliant silo]

Class skill floor lowered though, that is an upside from one perspective

[spice spire]

And you can keep saving

[drowsy hatch]

You may not turn it off

Enter shiv tea nirvana

[pliant silo]

Macro to two second after shiv ☝️ 🤓

[visual flume]

That’s kinda lame.
That macro looks good though. Ty

[drowsy hatch]

It's lame but both builds don't struggle with energy much now

And the mastery difference is negligible

Or all builds I should say

[azure owl]

Can someone explain to me how 1st boss necrotic works? Sometimes cloak works sometimes it doesnt, whast the trick there?

[raven egret]

use evasion

[humble verge]

dont die

[fringe surge]

please, i started 13s and i rlly underperforming