#assassination

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slate crown
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I still cannot reproduce the issue

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but I'm brute forcing the fix because I know what it looks like when it happens

thorn slate
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Whats the ideal m+ build for +10-12 atm?

charred helm
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I just ran something similar with 1/2 scent + blades and Without a Trace instead of Lethality and Echo

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not bad id say

cedar elm
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alright im back now that outlaw deadeg

charred helm
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will prob try 1/2 Subeter with 2/2 Lethality now

thin plinth
ebon river
astral pivot
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Can anyone share a Plater profile, I see too many debuffs I a cant really follow

dapper cradle
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the MA + Subt build is actually kinda pog

prisma monolithBOT
final wolf
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is there any items worth having from the black rook depth raid?

charred helm
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My ST dropped like 50+k after the Tea change, imma start to have to check my energy more often 😭

dapper cradle
brittle quail
subtle tundra
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so is outlaw fixed?

astral pivot
subtle tundra
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too much chaos

slim pebble
charred helm
burnt dome
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
slim pebble
slate crown
brittle quail
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❤️

tall jay
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ok, so...what is the new M+ build then? I am only doing 9s? the Wowhead one don't take TTK?

robust heart
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Anyone have WA for tracking envenom plz ?

strange python
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Hmmm what will be best talent for mythic plus

north halo
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is it worth to drop sanguine for master assasin and sudden fot TTK in m+? specced with subterfurge and 2x lethality

And should i spec for subterfurge also for raid? or still stay on supercharge?

strange python
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Seems everyone try alot

chilly mist
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Are we playing Assass on Silken Court now?

late gulch
fading echo
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!logreview

prisma monolithBOT
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Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

true rapids
tall jay
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Roger that!!!

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Thank you

dapper cradle
nova aspen
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ttk/subt/MA sims 50k higher than the wowhead build for me

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just sim and see

pure moth
dapper cradle
slim pebble
pure moth
burnt dome
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But everyone likes ass?

radiant moth
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
spice spire
slim pebble
chilly mist
slim pebble
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I really hope that was the right one and not whispyr

spice spire
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I be doing those squats twice a week king

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It better be a good view

slate crown
prisma monolithBOT
undone flame
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whats the hardest rogue spec to play? my tank dk seems to think its outlaw

dapper cradle
dapper cradle
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sin is probs easiest rn

frigid aurora
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sub imo

spice spire
spice delta
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Hey guys, which WA pack had the Kingsbane timeline with vanish?

cobalt sphinx
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outlaw sounds right to me

undone flame
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i also think sub is hardest

dapper cradle
spice spire
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No

oak tangle
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some people literally cannot understand spinning plates, some people cant zoomer their ass off

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people to people is what makes the specs ahrder / easier

slate crown
prisma monolithBOT
rotund oak
grizzled ember
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Ahh, good morning how’s everyone today?

grand trail
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@slate crown that look like your work

slate crown
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Well

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It says [LE]

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Maybe I should burry my uh

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more stuff into the code somewhere for finding out

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you know how lots of map makers have like

grand trail
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thats lot of triggers

slate crown
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well yeah

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shit's complicated

grand trail
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but look solid for us icon enjoyers, thanks

slate crown
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wait

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ah ok

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The icon isn't mine

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Or at least, mine are bars

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but

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If it says [LE] (and that looks like my triggers)

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they probably took mine

grand trail
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yeah i think kush edit it or someone else

slate crown
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then converted to icons

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which like

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that's fine

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it works

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it happen again tho

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lmao

thorn slate
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Do you guys use TTK in M+? do i remove bonespike or sanguine blades for it?

spice spire
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Sb

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Remove sd and sb for ma and TTK if you go that route

slate crown
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I hope they remember to get the updated versions

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because I just pushed one to fix some bugs

grand trail
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yeah

slate crown
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It would be good for authors

burnt dome
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Just to ensure I'm not being an idiot - M+ keys, using Wowhead build - do I still spam FoK while keeping caustic up and using envenoms as finishers? because in the dungeon slice sim from !fuu it looks like there's barely any FoK usage (only to use clear the witnesses proc I guess) or is that just sim things?

slate crown
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that take them

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to reach out to me

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to

grand trail
cinder quartz
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damn they're on slow mode was gonna post this

slate crown
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ask

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so I can tell them

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when an update goes out

spice spire
cinder quartz
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i'm nothing if not unoriginal

slate crown
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Good to know my work is appreciated by the tops tho

vestal wren
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fotm rly attracted some interessting personalities

spice spire
slate crown
grand trail
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yeah he was not able to make it himself

ebon river
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is subterfuge master assassin bis in m+ this patch?

spice spire
slate crown
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It's ok (I'm one of them)

grand trail
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not everyone is WA guru

feral wasp
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will they nerf other specs because of the outlaw incident ?

novel star
spice spire
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Seems right

spice spire
novel star
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problem?

quiet oar
cyan steppe
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
clever sapphire
spice spire
vestal wren
burnt dome
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ty both

thorn slate
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Can anyone share their current m+ build? want to compare sims

scenic nacelle
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felt this a couple times on Silken prog thought I was going crazy

novel star
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i have luckily still not experienced mark bugs in raid at all

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just m+

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surely my streak continues tonight

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on ovinax

spice spire
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I haven’t experienced it at all yet

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But limited playtime too y’know

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3 keys and raid

novel star
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m+ ive only noticed the one where like "envenom sniping" steals your dn

clever sapphire
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In m+ all it takes is for you to kill a mob with DN

novel star
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yeah

coral ibex
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i’ve noticed that one too

novel star
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i have not had issues on bosses though or like mid hp bar

clever sapphire
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So i just refuse to dn envenom a no hp mob

novel star
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but

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the execute one is just back

coral ibex
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luckily with subt you can ambush late and fix it

novel star
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its so cringe they fixed all of thsee bugs and now theyre back

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i wonder how that occurs

dry nova
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
clever sapphire
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20 years of spaghetti code probably

coral ibex
novel star
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yeah i figured it was just that

soft niche
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they had merge conflicts and choose the new version

novel star
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but like damn Sadge

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hope they can

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get the fixes back in fast

coral ibex
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intern pushed the PR to main without review

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W

clever sapphire
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Only fix they gonna do is fix the trickster bug

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And by fixing that bug they are going to break something else in trickster, i can already see it

vagrant brook
clever sapphire
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And now its gonna do 0 dmg

balmy prism
unreal fern
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
icy mantle
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build with sinc 4% dmg

cedar elm
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which talent is it where when i rupture i get all my cp back. its not happening anymore

fallen arch
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Serrated bone spike

subtle tundra
cedar elm
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i guess we don’t take it anymore

slim pebble
clever sapphire
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You can, but with the amount if IC time you dont really need it tbh dracthyr_shrug

agile mason
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is the MA / Subter build on wowhead anywhere? I am not seeing it

thorn slate
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IC time?

subtle tundra
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you can remove sbs or keep it and say it feels good so you play it

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up to y'all

clever sapphire
# thorn slate IC time?

If you take subterfuge your ic/imp garrote window goes to 9/12 sec. So you have so much time to spread your shit

winter salmon
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did they fix Deathstalker's Mark disappearing?

leaden viper
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Bro we can average 1mil on m+ st

hollow warren
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Hey quick question, my sims tell me to enchant haste and I am already sitting at 10% can that be right?

clever sapphire
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If sim says that you need haste, you listen to sim and get haste

fathom cove
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has the DSM bug been fixed yet?

clever sapphire
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Not that i know of

spice spire
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No

novel star
slim pebble
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Kyevza was bugged last night for a good hour during prog

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It was great

subtle tundra
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man the mental gymnastics these fucking outlaws do

clever sapphire
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But ey outlaw just got fixed if im seeing it correctly

subtle tundra
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they think the bug was OK

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LOL

torpid schooner
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Is there a way to never have the DM fall off? Or do you spend the three charges and then have to go invis or ma CP enevom to get it up again

static glacier
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did they fix the lingering bug?

livid kestrel
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Did they just fix DM ?

strange python
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
clever sapphire
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Was there some big patch note i missed that everyone is asking about dn?

slim pebble
livid kestrel
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Feels like I've been fine the last 15-20 mins

autumn wren
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Do we use weak auras for Kingsbane? I have friends saying I need one, but none of the guides I've read mention them.

prisma monolithBOT
livid kestrel
clever sapphire
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Use dn to kill a mob, you wont have your mark 👍

slim pebble
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LEs pack has a good kingsbane tracker

clever sapphire
livid kestrel
autumn wren
torpid schooner
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Whats DN

clever sapphire
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Ah ye true vanish...

slate crown
autumn wren
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But then again, my dps is trash LOL

slim pebble
slate crown
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If you can play without it and can shiv/vanish at the right times

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you're fine

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but it helps a lot in stressful situations for me

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to see the bar

slim pebble
clever sapphire
# torpid schooner Whats DN

DEEZ NUTS (jk its the Darkest night or whatever the 30 sec buff is called after you consume 3 deathstalker marks)

spice spire
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I love outlaw chat so much sometimes

autumn wren
livid kestrel
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lmao im at the same place trying

livid kestrel
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it is coming back 100% of the time for me wtf

torpid schooner
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I was talking more of raid situation. I noticed the other day I would consume the three charges and then have to build to max CP before reapplying

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anyway to skip that

sour mist
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This auto tea I trash

torpid schooner
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Fuckign agree

novel star
autumn wren
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I don't understand why Slice and Dice is still a button. I can take it off of my bar, right?

novel star
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so it doesnt actually matter

stray adder
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did they just release a long boi in the shop

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omfg

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90usd

novel star
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it would be a shame if auto tea mattered

sour mist
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I just dont like how it feels

clever sapphire
novel star
sour mist
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Idc about the damage

torpid schooner
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O thats right what is the change to Slice and Dics

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Do you even have to hit it now?

novel star
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cut to the chase grants duration instead of extending duration

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so snd is just a passive

torpid schooner
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How does it proc now?

autumn wren
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Envenom procs it

clever sapphire
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Remove from bars, remove from WA-s and forget it exists

old hedge
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hi, so assa tree is unchanged for m+? not taking ttk or master assassin?

novel star
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ttk+ma+subt builds are good, old hybrid is also good

clever sapphire
plucky patio
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Do we play subterfurge / 2× vanish in raid situations? Or just for silence in m+?

slim pebble
idle gorge
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!TEA

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
spice spire
clever sapphire
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Ah ye i still have to watch that

runic hinge
spice spire
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Yoinked

urban haven
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does the spell queue feel sluggish as fuck and makes you miss or double cast abilities now?

novel star
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no

proud raft
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talents for assa m+?

novel star
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did your dog bite your ethernet cable

open socket
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Only gripe with the ma/sub build is that it seems to matter a bit more to get a restealth, good to keep in mind when pugging

clever sapphire
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If you are in the city it could happen

novel star
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oh yeah true

novel star
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but hub cities lagigng as fuck aint new

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was happening last week too

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and every week

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for 20 years CB_kek

clever sapphire
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Maybe with outlaw fixed its gonna chill a bit. Yk all the outlaws building to coup wont be there anymore dracthyr_kek

urban haven
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oh, yeah I've only been stabbing dummies

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that's a relief

novel star
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go to a dead old city or like

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instanced content

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and it should be normal

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did a heroic run yesterday and nothing felt different

clever sapphire
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I did a few keys today and everything was fine on my part too

slim pebble
urban haven
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Just repeated the opener when before the raid just now when I noticed it

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Thx dude, cursed dummies got ya

gentle gyro
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whole outdoor world feels sluggish, instanced content is fine

timid hound
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Guys, which build is best for Assassin M+?

clever sapphire
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I dont do outdoor so luckily i wouldnt know

novel star
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you can run old hybrid or make adjustments for the new talents

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both are fine

clever sapphire
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I was faster

gentle gyro
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you'll have to wait to get invited though until people get the message outlaw is no longer bugged

clever sapphire
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I find the single subter, 2 lethality, no sbs build to work pretty well

clever sapphire
river wedge
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hi there, is there any WA that shows which deffensive is better to use on dungs and raid?

spice spire
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No

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There used to be a spreadsheet

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But too much work

novel star
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sometimes eu and na have different issues right

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like

gentle gyro
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when in doubt, press feint

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it won't hurt

novel star
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hotfixes dont sync 100%

livid kestrel
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Anyone else in EU can check DN ?

novel star
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or am i delusional

kindred breach
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Guys our fellow outlaws are melting in their chan

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So funny

vagrant brook
cinder quartz
novel star
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banger

livid kestrel
tight grotto
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
livid kestrel
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idk how to send embedded video

clever sapphire
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(Eu server)

gentle gyro
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okf or someone who wasn't here for a few days, what DN bug?

livid kestrel
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seems like it is. The last hotfix says "many server side bugfix"

spice spire
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Like the old days

novel star
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oh yeah

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even on NA

livid kestrel
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too bad i already dropped it on every boss yesterday reclear

novel star
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i just got the hotfix too

clever sapphire
novel star
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dn is coming back

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on envenom snipes

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as of like the last 5 minutes

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nice

livid kestrel
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lets goooooo SAVED

gentle gyro
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also, with the ne ER baked into shiv, is it intended that 5cp (which are 7 with the talent) do not proc DN?

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seems kinda unintuitive

novel star
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doesnt matter as much as with er

uneven plume
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They fixed DN dropping off?

kindred hinge
uneven plume
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Or do I continue leveling my ele sham

novel star
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but i dont know the cause of the other bug

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so i dont know how to test it

gentle gyro
novel star
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oh

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hey

uneven plume
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Almost every boss I killed drops my DN in keys

novel star
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nevermind

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supercharger interacts with dn lol

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i just did a 5cp shivved envenom

kindred hinge
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Funny that Blizz drop the new AH mount straight after this shit show, misdirection at its best. And Hey they will make bank with it...

novel star
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and got mark application

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cool

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they fixed the whole shit i guess

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nice

uneven plume
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Wait so supercharger now consumes DN?

novel star
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yep

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just did it

past bobcat
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!

uneven plume
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That’s huge

novel star
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i dont think it's consuming marks at 3cp

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but it is consuming dn at 5cp

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so

uneven plume
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It wasn’t consuming any cps before right

vagrant brook
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i just wonder

bleak dove
vagrant brook
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dont they test it before pushing changes?

novel star
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i mean

dapper cradle
novel star
vagrant brook
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thats like software engineering 101

ember orchid
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
novel star
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they just made 11.0.5 changes to a different branch or smth

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from before the dsm fixes

vagrant brook
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that's even worse

cinder quartz
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its the usual experience

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let the first week of a patch be fucky and weird

past bobcat
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Is it actually huge that supercharger works with dn

novel star
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update update i was wrong

vagrant brook
feral wasp
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Guys, i think you missed it, they are selling longboi for 90$

novel star
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it does consume marks at below 5cp

copper hazel
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😄

novel star
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marks and dn are both interacting with supercharger

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and envenom sniping is fixed

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cool and fun

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good job blizzard

livid kestrel
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sniping mobs for the last 20 mins

cinder quartz
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alert the presses

livid kestrel
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it still drops sometimes, like 1/20

cobalt sphinx
novel star
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now surely they fix some of these fucking ttk disasters

novel star
pseudo cosmos
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u got a black long boye?

willow vine
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Poors mad is crazy work

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It's early access vs non early access trade chat all over again

slow tulip
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🥂

raw zephyr
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u can tell the tilt 40 yd away lol

heady island
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
severe wyvern
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and not subterfuge

misty kernel
slim pebble
spice spire
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Three posts in 3 minutes

slow tulip
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dont tell Tom pls :/

spice spire
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Can’t wait for the next one

misty kernel
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@midnight mist anlaaaki

unkempt warren
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wait do we now have 2 less keybinding slots??

half dawn
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outlaw room in slow mode wtf is wrong with people spamming that room

unkempt warren
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this is huge i can keybind something pointless

meager aspen
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what's fixed as Sin and deathstalker ? Sueprcharger interactions with night ?

pseudo cosmos
slim pebble
half dawn
remote turtle
unkempt warren
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oh shit we dont press tea eithjer cus we macro it with shiv??

nova aspen
slim pebble
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How big is the loss if I just macro tea to shiv in m+

pseudo cosmos
final vapor
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
half dawn
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based

slim pebble
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Like do I need two separate keybinds

half dawn
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good news ❤️

novel star
spice spire
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Go for it

slim pebble
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How much gold do I need for that mount

kindred hinge
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2m1 EU price

icy girder
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So run supercharger over subterfuge now?

spice spire
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Tokens are probably going crazy tho

half dawn
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the black longboy is crazy tho

kindred hinge
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Dirt cheap tbh

earnest tree
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where do you buy it?

spice spire
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Here it’s 15 payout, and tokens are about 200k

onyx linden
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There's a new ah mount wtf?

balmy prism
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where buy zug

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gonna call my chinese uncle

slim pebble
harsh anchor
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Blizz needed some quick cash today

scenic nacelle
balmy prism
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someone tell me where I can spend my money

grizzled fulcrum
kindred hinge
scenic nacelle
slim pebble
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Dang

pearl flower
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Lets go

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Outlaw players getting the stick

uncut stump
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
tawny geyser
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Man you cant buy the damn TOKENS!

icy girder
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Might spec outlaw and sell some carry’s for the black long boy

hollow talon
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what is the diff in playstyles with the subterfooge m+ build

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or is it just for MA crit

half dawn
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i thought the subterfuge + 2x vanish build was a meme

nova aspen
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same playstyle u just vanish for crit instead of imp garr

rotund oak
# scenic nacelle

dont wanna know how much more expensive tokens will be once there are on the market

hollow talon
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its not the 2x vanish one its the MA/ttk one

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err just MA

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no TTK

spice spire
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No it’s both

split python
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is dracthyr mastery buff worth to change races? xD

spice spire
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Ma and ttk

split python
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any 1 got it?

cursive mango
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any of you guys tried more ST oriented build in M+ ?

lusty crag
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hey guys can you stealth in dungeons with shadowmeld?

soft niche
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you end up killing prior target too quick that is not worth it

leaden cypress
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if we go for subterfuge in m+ should we also drop sudden demise for ttk, or just sanguine for MA? or both? 😄

old hedge
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how do you utilize Iron wire if you're not playing with Subterfuge since you always want to open with Ambush from stealth no?

fallen arch
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78 euros

rotund oak
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ik that already 😛

livid kestrel
pseudo cosmos
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lol everyone who had tokens pull them kek

fallen arch
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How much is a token worth now

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In gold

soft niche
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209k

lucid silo
fallen arch
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Was it like 220?

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DANG INFLATION HIT

pseudo cosmos
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if there are any on ur servers market

rotund oak
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maybe its just the service thats not working

lucid silo
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it was like 190 the other day

soft niche
hollow talon
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does anyone have link to the one with MA/TTK subterfuge

fleet pagoda
rotund oak
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in E.U it was 275k-ish last time i checked

high walrus
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is outlaw still not fixed

rotund oak
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its fixed

half dawn
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it should be

livid kestrel
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293k rn EU, it's rising slowly

rotund oak
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should be?

half dawn
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yeah should be fixed as per blizz post xd

spice spire
waxen oyster
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whats funny is this mount is better than old bruto

rotund oak
waxen oyster
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because it has mailbox too

pseudo cosmos
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seeing all these dinos man

half dawn
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seeing all the donators

gaunt vigil
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HI! Prolly a noob question, but should i upgrade first both weapons or just mainhand and lets say trinkets?

hollow talon
slim pebble
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I miss $330k wow tokens

spice spire
lime parrot
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HEy guys someone got a wa for clear the weakness?

pseudo cosmos
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blizz making bank gotta up the quaterly report

sinful island
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
lime parrot
#

Like a sound?

novel star
#

thats kinda insane

old hedge
livid kestrel
normal mist
spice spire
#

Yeah @novel star said it was about 5m ago

normal mist
#

oh

spice spire
#

Well 5m who

#

Like

#

W bit ago

normal mist
#

was doing... this thingy

deep gyro
#

Thank the Maker

spice spire
#

But they’re NA

normal mist
#

im eu

spice spire
#

Ye

normal mist
#

and it seems fixed

drifting cloud
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
#

So good to know it’s both

hollow talon
#

does this look right

old hedge
mental dirge
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
livid kestrel
charred helm
#

I tried dropping Blades/SD for MA and TTK

thorn slate
#

Is there a WA that tracks Caustic splatter? im sure i had one before

charred helm
thick sail
#

Omg an AH mount? Immediately buying

novel star
chilly grove
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
thorn fjord
charred helm
#

less than 10% uptime on MA, idk man

novel star
#

im still forcing 7cp even if i shivved before it though idgaf

#

forced crit +60%dam 9cp envenom

thorn fjord
novel star
#

surely good

charred helm
#

keys

thorn fjord
#

Might be doing something wrong

#

MA is rolling

thorn slate
meager aspen
graceful umbra
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
novel star
charred helm
novel star
#

another mysterious bug led to DN disappearing sometimes mid combat and nobody understood why. maybe fixed? idk

thorn fjord
#

@charred helm can confirm that dmg is slightly higher overall using TTK/MA than SB SD after testing over 6 keys

novel star
coral ibex
#

huge i’m at work

novel star
#

hotfixes

thorn fjord
thorn slate
stray adder
#

-90usd

charred helm
#

Also, do you vanish last (6) seconds of Kingsbane?

thorn fjord
tranquil birch
thorn fjord
charred helm
#

Yeah, first key i tried with Subt, second key without

molten flicker
#

where do you find the new ah mount?

charred helm
stray adder
thorn fjord
#

Only vanishing during packs when tank pulls more or if we need more silences etc

pseudo cosmos
#

293k atm token

stray adder
#

not in game

pseudo cosmos
#

needs to go up

spice spire
pseudo cosmos
#

ye

stray adder
#

its 200 on NA

onyx gyro
#

!ui

prisma monolithBOT
thorn fjord
stray adder
#

it's gonna dip soon

charred helm
#

1/2 Scent

hallow patrol
#

mm+

charred helm
#

yes, i dont raid

mighty scroll
#

is this for aoe?

stray adder
charred helm
#

yeah i liked it the most out of all MA builds

spice delta
#

Do we now send vanish last 6 secs of Kingsbane?

coral ibex
#

fuck sanguine all my homies hate sanguine

severe sparrow
#

Macro question, if i set the tea/shiv macro castsequence reset number larger than 5 would that result in times where the macro would lock me out of shivving?

coral ibex
#

10% agi >

charred helm
stray adder
#

yeah my version doesnt have sanguine

tranquil birch
#

Had anyone tried a fatebound ma+ttk build yet in m+?

balmy prism
#

outlaw players in shambles

cursive flicker
#

So yes

balmy prism
#

"noBoDY iS gEttInG baNnEd"

stray adder
thorn fjord
#

Y'all see you can buy the AH mount for $90 lmao

#

JEEEEEZ

cursive flicker
#

Was excited to exploit for guild raid tonight, v sad

runic hinge
torn dome
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
thorn fjord
fleet pagoda
#

what's 90 clams, 6 tokens?

spice spire
cobalt sphinx
#

tokens will be completely sold out for days

fleet pagoda
#

1.2mil gold by NA tokens? monkahmm tempting

cobalt sphinx
#

i wonder how that affects the price

cursive flicker
runic hinge
spice spire
#

It’ll likely be a lot more

hollow talon
tranquil birch
#

Anyone remember the "FoKening" bug abuse in Legion with legendary cape?🤣

severe sparrow
# molten flicker does not affect shiv

I have that macro but with the number set to 10, cuz i stole it from a post here ages ago, and it bugs out and won't use shiv if i have 0 stacks of tea for some reason

stray adder
#

as much as I hate the current state of the game, can't say no to a long boi pepegaSwipe

charred helm
#

i aint dropping Blades, i like my aoe

spice spire
severe sparrow
#

I mean im sure it's something ive done wrong and im not at home to look at my macro but i gave up trying to fix it the other night

stray adder
molten flicker
static glacier
#

!shiv

spice spire
#

Damn hope you find one cuz I’m not him

#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
static glacier
#

kiss

balmy prism
#

A few logs have disappeared

spice spire
#

Likely will continue to do so

stone carbon
#

is there a plater which only shows the "useful" Assa dots? Mine shows every debuff i can put on the target and i seem to lose track of what needs to be actually on the target

radiant sorrel
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
zenith tree
prisma monolithBOT
sonic zinc
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
final star
#

@balmy condor Sorry to ask for clarification, is it required to track the envnenom stacks to pandemic or is just full sending envenom acceptable without thinking, aka what is the loss for doing so

thorn fjord
#

Who can i send feet pics to that'll pay for my AH mount 👀

pseudo cosmos
#

5 points send it

#

5-7

final star
#

WICKED I'm just tracking the buff with a stack count

spice spire
#

Honestly based

final star
#

so I kknow if I have 2 stacks I am fat damage

wild hound
final star
#

if 1 I am not as fat damage

spice spire
final star
#

Bruce the goat

indigo mulch
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
runic hinge
#

Basically can just full send

feral wasp
#

SELECT p.player_id, p.class
FROM players p
LEFT JOIN purchases pu ON p.player_id = pu.player_id AND pu.item_name = 'Traders Gilded Brutosaur'
WHERE p.class = 'Outlaw'
AND pu.item_name IS NULL;

spice spire
#

No shot

runic hinge
#

Outlaw slow mode catching us strays

waxen oyster
#

its actually impressive how the new bruto is a straight up upgrade

#

whereas the grizzly transmog mount was a downgrade

runic hinge
#

Buy blizz calls

waxen oyster
#

im surprised people didnt have the yak

#

transmog on the go for 120k

uneven marsh
#

how is the grizzly a downgrade?

final star
tough trail
#

has any1 tried masterassasin build yet?

waxen oyster
#

transmog guy is on the wrong side of the mount

runic hinge
#

Some people i know bought it cause it's smaller and they hate the grummels

waxen oyster
#

+no vendor

molten flicker
past bobcat
neat laurel
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
cursive mango
#

Hey guys, what makes subterfuge so good and why are most ppl playing it? I simmed it and for me supercharger sims better in dungeonslice

uneven marsh
#

WDYM no vendor ?

runic hinge
feral wasp
#

You dont mount grizzly bear for vendor, you mount it for transmogging

hallow patrol
#

as i saw multiples mm talents which one is the best currently ?

final star
#

removal of snd is actually so based

bronze pike
#

So that happened

#

I can’t believe the fixing of a shit bug made outlaw chat shit itself

waxen oyster
shut pollen
ebon geyser
#

we dont use snd anymore?

normal mist
#

its passive

coral ibex
#

never forget when #outlaw had a normal one

charred helm
young dust
#

damn outlaw disc is something today huh

ebon geyser
pseudo cosmos
#

it was good kept me entertained for 8hrs at work

charred helm
#

new Cut to the chase

charred helm
unreal fern
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
charred helm
#

Is it true they'll re-roll the Outlaw bugged keys?

#

i mean, remove, you get it

novel star
#

dont see why it wouldnt be true

young dust
#

Yes

#

and mythic prog

#

but maybe only the high keys

bronze pike
#

Deserved

novel star
#

did any guild get CE with the bug?

young dust
#

blue post wrote it

waxen oyster
#

ele nerf when

ebon geyser
# charred helm

sweet tks , so we skip snd on oepener and go into deathmark?

novel star
#

i heard about court kills with bug abusing losers

young dust
novel star
#

but did it happen on queen

novel star
young dust
#

only blizz knows

novel star
#

true

waxen oyster
#

ngl

charred helm
waxen oyster
#

i feel like blizz downsized their qa team

#

this expac

#

with how many damn bugs there are

rain mortar
#

uhhh just tried to log into the game to this? Is this a bug or something lmao

charred helm
#

you can go and get snd before keys start but that wont make much difference having ~10s of snd in the beginning of the key before you hit your first envenom

soft niche
#

perma ban

meager aspen
young dust
#

You know whats funny, blizz is having 3 times more work than if they correctly tested the patch

molten flicker
drifting cedar
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
novel star
#

anyone who used the outlaw bug is getting temp bans

rain mortar
#

i didnt even play outlaw yet in 11.0.5 haha

soft niche
#

0 = infinite

novel star
#

if not outlaw then uh

#

probably just a bug

#

restart game

rain mortar
#

i dunno i closed the game and went back in and it was gone

#

so weird

novel star
#

ye

young dust
#

did you abuse your mark getting removed?

novel star
#

kek

young dust
#

you could replicate the mark disappearing

soft niche
#

he aboused outlaw with dummies

misty kernel
#

ya where u have keys with big elites that live longer try follow the blood then u will realise how to use your class properly

icy girder
#

i abused outlaw with dummys no ban here

royal lantern
#

its so sad that @midnight mist is banned pepehands

polar sleet
#

BAN em all

spice spire
#

Nothing to do with the bug

#

He’s just French smoge

midnight mist
#

ye real

red cloak
#

do you guys vanish improved garrote mid combat then deathmark kingsbane or deathmark vanish improved garrote kingsbane

waxen oyster
midnight mist
#

how sad

waxen oyster
#

i remember this post

midnight mist
#

country diff no cap

waxen oyster
#

and this patch

short comet
#

lol no bans y’all are crazy believing that

gloomy tusk
novel star
#

there are confirmed bans

young dust
#

for real, how did the bug work? in as not how to reproduce it, but what was the benefit

slate crown
#

Holy shit I can buy a longboi OMg

novel star
slate crown
#

It’s not OG colors but

novel star
#

something like that

slate crown
#

W/e

bronze pike
novel star
#

dont need mount + mail toy

bronze pike
#

Scaled with crackshot

slate crown
#

Aaaaaa

rare token
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
wispy epoch
#

They’d swap between trickster and fateblade and it’d keep passives from trickster

slate crown
#

Insane, only like what, 1.5m? Maybe less

misty kernel
wispy epoch
#

That’s all

thorn fjord
#

Today has been such a weird/funny day

#

Holy moly

turbid nymph
#

Why the fk would blizzard add the tea mechanic

#

its so dogshit

pseudo cosmos
turbid nymph
#

i dont want it to be used

slate crown
fleet pagoda
#

yep

wispy epoch
pseudo cosmos
slate crown
#

Oh shit

novel star
slate crown
#

Fuck me sideways

fleet pagoda
#

trying to get a token to buy my sub before prices go crazy and I can't!

wispy epoch
#

Is there an add on that does my rotation automatically while I stand near mobs?

waxen oyster
#

they were like 209k before running out

thorn fjord
waxen oyster
#

so 209*6?

prime forum
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
novel star
#

fair enough

gloomy tusk
pseudo cosmos
tranquil smelt
#

hoch much haste you guys runnin? Atm im at 2,7% feels a bit low, but sim says its alright 😄

novel star
#

haste doesnt matter

thorn fjord
novel star
#

stats dont matter

#

DO NOT look at your stats

#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
turbid nymph
royal lantern
# novel star playing with sim level accuracy to avoid autotea only gains you 0.18%dps. It's n...

im honest man

yes i know that its not relevant

yes i know that its helpfull for the giga keyboard drollers that hate buttons

but the negative feedback to that change clearly shows that it should have not be done like they did it, and its so weird that its not a choice node

like, i showed the change a guildmate that has no idea about rogue and his first comment was "that sounds stupid, why is it not a choice?"

final star
#

just press buttons

#

so based

thorn fjord
#

The choice is in fact NOT yours

novel star
#

crit/mast are usually better in m+ but not by a huge amount and in raid it fr doesnt matter

novel star
past panther
#

how much of a DPS loss is it to not tea during shiv

novel star
#

part of it is maybe i was active on discord and knew the 0.2%dps number before playing with it

#

so whenever i saw it proc for the first time

#

i just went

#

oh yeah thats in the game okay

#

and then

#

instantly went on to the next thought half a second later

waxen oyster
#

stack vers mast and crit env natty

novel star
#

i just dont gaf

royal python
#

can someone link the ttk standalone wa ?

novel star
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
novel star
#

le's collection

royal python
#

i just want the ttk one, how do i segment that out

novel star
#

click the link

#

before typing

spice spire
#

The collection

novel star
#

please

spice spire
#

Has 500 weakauras

#

Separate

royal python
#

LE group or rogue collection ?

novel star
#

well i said collection didnt i Sludge

#

(collection)

spice spire
#

Collection

royal python
#

ok !

novel star
#

(its all just single was)

royal python
#

thanks

novel star
#

group is the one you dont want

royal python
#

got it

novel star
slate crown
#

Fuck me no tokens I can’t besad

peak lake
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
slate crown
#

Aaaaaaaaaa

pseudo cosmos
slate crown
#

I have 2 tokens in my bags but that’s not enough

pseudo cosmos
#

swipe card

slate crown
#

NO

fleet pagoda
#

those are going to be worth like a million gold by the end of the day

slate crown
#

I will pay it

thorn fjord
pseudo cosmos
#

just gonna wait for the fomo to kick in

thorn fjord
#

Im buying tomorrow since its payday LMAO

novel star
#

wow token went up like 13k in the last 30 min

#

yea

thorn fjord
#

gonna regret it so bad

novel star
slate crown
novel star
#

huh

thorn fjord
#

you cant buy them

novel star
#

im looking at a buch of longbois rn

slate crown
#

You can’t buy them with gold

novel star
#

ah

pseudo cosmos
#

wow

fleet pagoda
#

those are natty $90 purchases

slate crown
#

Only $$

spice spire
#

The tokens aren’t available

thorn fjord
#

$90 baby

pseudo cosmos
#

oh

#

WOW

novel star
#

i see

pseudo cosmos
#

kekw EU laws pog

peak lake
#

Hey someone have a trick of trade maccro @ focus ?

uneven marsh
#

!tricks

prisma monolithBOT
#

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
slate crown
#

I can make the 6M back if they cost that much

pseudo cosmos
#

EU laws strike again clap

novel star
#

yea how fucked are eu tokens then wtf

whole sand
#

my raid makes me go healer and all the interesting shit happens im so mad

violet talon
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
pseudo cosmos
peak lake
#

what is smart misdirect

#

and thanks

novel star
peak lake
#

ho thats a wa

novel star
#

ah yeah

pseudo cosmos
#

now you see it

novel star
#

idk my brain is fried atm bro

#

i dont care about gold and shit enough to put any thought into it

unborn wharf
#

for the masterassassin/subterfuge build if you go without a trace (CAUGHT) do you just vanish every kingsbane, once every deathmark and save the extra one for chaining or what

pseudo cosmos
novel star
#

i buy the token and play the game and then i forget ab it

ornate peak
#

Personally not a fan of automatic tea

thorn fjord
#

Im buying the mount

#

NOBODY TELL THE WIFE

fleet pagoda
grizzled fulcrum
#

Can anyone share the optimal ds build without bugged stuff ?

runic hinge
molten crow
#

Guys what build are you playing for keys in the 9-11 range? Is it still considered low keys? Im playing the Hybrid from wowhead and I feel like Sudden Demise is a wasted talent

bleak dove
#

fatebound simming 21k lower 😭

runic hinge
kindred hinge
split veldt
#

figured out what to do with all my newly freed up bind spaces

fleet pagoda
uneven marsh
novel veldt
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
molten crow
late surge
#

sanguine blades

molten crow
#

Right, of course, sorry

fleet pagoda
kindred hinge
#

Sanguine blade, Twist the knife, Serrated bone spike, MA, Sudden demise, Without a trace, Amp poison, Lethality all those point can shift around and sim roughly similar

weary swallow
#

Im dropping SD and SB for ttk and MA if in doing 13 keys right?

coral ibex
#

if you want to

kindred hinge
#

You can

molten crow
#

So something like this?

coral ibex
kindred hinge
#

But other builds also work fine

novel star
fleet pagoda
azure flare
#

i only dislike dropping sanguine

pseudo osprey
#

is the assa Mage tower appearance obtainable during legion timewalking ?

wild hound
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
azure flare
#

its probably still better tho