assassination

[sudden swan]

Well if they were to unsquish it, they would still be hard, just a couple levels higher lol

[quaint hull]

the system requires you to get good to get loot , p good imo

[candid nacelle]

nono 😄

[strange python]

Hard is chill. It’s the 1 key level higher wall that feels bad. I wish it was more linear.

[crimson current]

but if they time 10 and get portal its fine

and 10 is easy as fuck

[pearl flower]

Yeah 10s are easy ngl

[crimson current]

i guess the difficult of 10 is ok for average

idk

[frosty bridge]

No, the point is that the jump between keystone level is too high

imo

the progression doesnt feel that smooth

[kindred hinge]

Average player struggle with 10s though, The average player spending time in wow doesnt

[spice surge]

Main difference between this an previous seasons is delves being very easy and giving gear thats better than most <7 keys. So pretty much everyone gets funneled into the 7-10 bracket

[frosty bridge]

you go from 2 chesting one key to depleting a level higher of the same key

[cerulean compass]

I would say, evenom / CT => It depends of your tanks pull, suddent is high so it was a low key ? And kingbanes seems to be low so maybe try to looks where you can set up in the dungeon but it's at the first looks

[barren yarrow]

The skill level between 8,9,10 for pugs is incredibly noticeable.

[spice spire]

I believe it

[kindred hinge]

You have a lot, a shit ton of people that play a few hours here and there that pay their suscribtiona nd that will see 10 at the end of the season

[pseudo cosmos]

This

[kindred hinge]

And struggle now

[barren yarrow]

it’s almost as if no one watches guides or even cares to do basic mechs because last season a 20 was a 10 now

so everyone is thinking last tier

[crimson current]

i mean, if the average player get 620+ ilvl they eventually time the 10s

[kindred hinge]

Easy is also relative, ask any 3k+ they will tell you 12s are easy, For 2k9 11s are easy as hell etc

[barren yarrow]

in reality you need not only gear but good mechs to be good in a 9 let alone 10

[crimson current]

and doing 7+ u can get 626 so

[kindred hinge]

But thats a small minority

[barren yarrow]

Yeah but 99% of people just want portals

[kindred hinge]

People deplete 2/3/4s that's how bad it is down below

[normal mist]

8

[fringe trench]

Are the Deathstalker hero talents bugged atm?

[crimson current]

yea but on 7 u drop hero already

[pearl flower]

I need a grp for 12s. Can’t get into 12s through lfg

[kindred hinge]

And the player base will not be happy to deplete 5 and under

[strange python]

Have to farm 8s for the crests though. So just because 7s can drop that it doesn’t matter.

[barren yarrow]

8s give you gilded tho

[crimson current]

im on the same

[normal mist]

And you Stay 619 with 7s

[sudden swan]

Can confirm, I was along for the ride on a +3 depleto on my alt lmao

[crimson current]

i time literally every 11 ++, have half of 12 timed andcant pug the other one

[kindred hinge]

Same but 13 !

[crimson current]

cause ppl just want red man

and aug

fuck me

[barren yarrow]

Well good for you lol

some of us can’t time 10s lol 😂

[high walrus]

cheat death or elusiveness in high keys?

[barren yarrow]

but will have insane damage that’s what everyone cares about. It’s stupid.

[violet berry]

My grandma can do 10’s

[barren yarrow]

cheat death!

[high walrus]

I've been playing elusiveness until today but wowhead suggests cheat death

[normal mist]

Elu

[pearl flower]

Yeah dude i have 11s all done. Spent like 1.5 hrs yesterday trying to get into 12s but nothing

[kindred hinge]

GB /COT/BOralus are easy invite at least

[golden loom]

uhhh what? do myth track gear not cap at 639?

[crimson current]

yea, and even tho those i dont have 12yet

[barren yarrow]

Time to be meta DK or ele.

[normal mist]

Must be tooltip bug

[pearl flower]

Also the sin deadstalker mark bug is noticeable

[kindred hinge]

Gl with the GB, nearly lost my sanity trying to clear the 12. So many tanks with stress issues

[hazy horizon]

Elusiveness

[pearl flower]

I noticed it happen yesterday a ton

[crimson current]

yea but 7 to 8 dont change so much

[barren yarrow]

The problem is there’s no tanks lol

[golden loom]

sadly dont have the gilded to upgrade it past 5/6

[barren yarrow]

no body wants todo it anymore unless your yoda

[crimson current]

the nost noticiable is 9 to 10

[pearl flower]

Imo man I might switch to healing on rshammy

[crimson current]

since it add tyranical and fort

[kindred hinge]

9-10 11-12

[crimson current]

blizz should do something about rsham too

[hazy horizon]

11 to 12 prenerf

[crimson current]

i think as a healer must be so bad toplay rn

if you are not a rsham

[pseudo cosmos]

They allready did with pct

[pearl flower]

I love playing sin but holy there is no grps thats taking in ppl and no pugs i can get into through lfg

[pseudo cosmos]

Gave it the priest enjoyment for the dispel timer

So it’s not auto pick for the dispel mechanic

[barren sleet]

Im 629 and sim around 1.3m with the standard raid single target build

[late tusk]

Blizzard should made tanks/healers fun to play

[crimson current]

ye, those are the hard jumps

[kindred hinge]

Make friend with a tank or a heal usually the only solution if you want to pug without loosing too much time

[late tusk]

So people would play that classes

till they do that, m+s are more dead than alive

[hollow vessel]

Sorry, but how does Caustic Splatter actually work?

Does it splash from the target or from your character?

[fallen arch]

Target

[static forge]

time to nerf Warry Furry

[barren yarrow]

I mean WME atleast you can list a key and not have deserters

[vagrant brook]

splashes a 12 yard radius from the center of the target affected by caustic spatter

[crimson current]

ig is from target since u need to mutilate it

[shut garnet]

yo, how cooked is this apparently sims about 1.5% more for me than doomblade+sbs but i think i'll pass

[nova aspen]

sbs bis

no shot

[spice spire]

Pretty sure it’s 8

But yes

[pseudo cosmos]

It’s is 8

[shut garnet]

ye the previous iteration i simmed over it was no sanguine no SD, +doom+sbs

[snow juniper]

the outlaw channel very yappy today

[spice spire]

(I’m not 100% but like 90, not trying to acksually you)

[hollow vessel]

thank u

[fallen arch]

Those fuckers will never be happy

[pseudo cosmos]

Not even looking in there

Pepega gameplay and players

[late tusk]

Can i SIMC my self with a dagger that is atm 610 but on 626?

[vagrant brook]

it says 12 yards in the simcraft ability breakdown

[fallen arch]

Cba with ‘my spec is harder than yours’ gamers

[late tusk]

I mean, want to compare dmg between one and other, but one is 626 and the new 610 so the simc is not as real as it could be

[scenic kiln]

arent the outlaw gamers yapping about the bug abusers

[fallen arch]

Prolly

[pseudo cosmos]

Idk not looked

[snow juniper]

they are yapping cause you have the regulars and the people that just joined to learn the bug

[scenic kiln]

that was like here too with all the fotm sin swappers lol

[stark umbra]

i mean, fotm rerollers are fine, now ppl swapping to just abuse the bug

[snow juniper]

or wanting to see how much people are madge about

[fresh kelp]

the fotm sin swapperes are now all in outlaw asking how to do the bug

[kindred hinge]

You can sim it at the ilvl you want yes

[pseudo cosmos]

[late tusk]

But how?

[scenic kiln]

yeah but guys abusing an exploit will make me a better player because my number will be bigger

[spice spire]

Ur so real for that homie

[stark umbra]

only if blizz would actually punish ppl for exploiting..

[snow juniper]

im just happy to see sin representation still primarily in 10+

[kindred hinge]

If you go to top gear for example, you will have a + icone below the 610 dagger. You can click on that and set up the ilvl you want. be sure to put max crest before

[snow juniper]

at least this morning lol

[scenic kiln]

yeah cuz doing <10s as sin makes me want to die

[thorn crater]

hey guys who has teh poison macro?

[scenic kiln]

my number small = im bad

[thorn crater]

!poisons

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[balmy prism]

only solution

[scenic kiln]

truly a fate worse than death

[pseudo cosmos]

Tbh I can play warlock so if I was a filthy abuser this is still fine

[wary kelp]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[summer cape]

!talents

[spice spire]

I’d rather Subaru than play that filthy class

[north drum]

In m+ with a single shiv charge should I be using shiv once between kingsbanes too? I'd assume so especially in supercharger build, but I can't find a mention of using it outside kingsbane in the guides

[spice spire]

Likely yes

[scenic kiln]

^ very likely

you get essentially 2 charges worth of cds per kb cd

[snow juniper]

shiv the end of kingsbane and then once outside outside to put it on cd to be up for kb

[north drum]

Alright I'll keep doing that then

[harsh anchor]

What’s wrong with subuwus?

[spice spire]

Sorry sudoku

[strange python]

I mean sure. But for some it’s going to be a wall.

[harsh anchor]

[barren yarrow]

So basically outlaw is in hot water lll

lol

[half dawn]

nobody got banned

[modest nexus]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[stray adder]

Imagine banning people during the Alpha phase

[balmy prism]

nobody is gonna get banned either

[late tusk]

They dont ban gold seller/services, they aint gonna ban rogues

[balmy prism]

if only they had banned during RWF like with firedup, they would have set a completely different tone for this season

[half dawn]

they do not care

[late tusk]

In fact they didnt even ban the "pros" in first world kill

[onyx musk]

cant say that in here youll get yelled at

[cobalt sphinx]

They should probably scrub rio

[half dawn]

but imo if enough people spam this shit they will ban the biggest abusers

[late tusk]

imagine about a random pushign a 12

[snow juniper]

but firedup didnt get banned...

[wintry pagoda]

Can i copy that tea macroline and replace tea with faint so i dont accidently doublecast faint

[kindred hinge]

It's not random pushing 12 it's random pushing 15s

[half dawn]

think thats his point

[balmy prism]

That's my point? If they had, maybe more people would be scared to do it now

[snow juniper]

ah

[late tusk]

Nvm, its the same for them

[onyx musk]

blizzard cares about the 15s in week 6 of the season more than rwf so yeah EVERYONE is eating a perma

[half dawn]

better punishment would be getting character banned from RIO for RIO abusers

[fresh kelp]

rwf is a streamed event they care about

[stray adder]

rwf is pure marketing

[onyx musk]

yeah man im being insanely sarcastic

[fresh kelp]

nobody would care if they banned some rando abusing

[onyx musk]

if you couldnt tell

[half dawn]

nah they care about MDI too. those bugs get giga patched

or they destroy snap spots

[knotty canopy]

+10 peakers now time +16

[stray adder]

how about a better QA team instead of banning people

[rotund oak]

[knotty canopy]

Its disgusting

[pseudo cosmos]

They literally just reset it back to yesterday and gg clap after fixing it

[knotty canopy]

Idk how this can still be ingame

[half dawn]

I mean u say this

[kindred hinge]

And punish all the people that did not bug abuse and that are the majority of the player base ? Nope

[half dawn]

But think, they released Ele in that state

[spice surge]

Theres a slight difference between a bug thats giving you 3% more damage and one thats giving you 50% more damage. not to mention a 20 man scenario VS a 5 man scenario

[stray adder]

don't hate the player, hate the game

[spice surge]

Its absolutely mental to compare this to the firedup thing

[balmy prism]

I'm not, I'm saying they set the tone

[fresh kelp]

the people timing keys without ele/law yesterday will time them again, can't say the same for bug abusers

[spice surge]

And they did ban a bunch of method for exploiting renown stuff

[frosty bridge]

Bad comparison but firedup should have been banned

[half dawn]

nah his point is valid, its about abusing a bug to get a % dam or w/e increase

doesnt matter if its 5% or 50%

[spice surge]

So everybody thats specced into lethality should be banned too?

Because thats also bugged

[slim pebble]

Did fired up exploiting lead to a boss kill?

[tepid lichen]

and everyone using flensing knives

[frosty bridge]

Not comparable

He went out of his way to exploit

[crimson current]

chill

[half dawn]

thats totally different lmao

speccing into bugged talent v.s exploiting intentionally

[balmy prism]

You're comparing using a talent vs remapping every key or going out of your way to swap hero talents -> kill something and swap back

2head

[spice surge]

its like yeah stealing 100$ is bad, stealing 100M$ is really bad and not the same thing. The scale matters

[half dawn]

yeah lmao

[slim pebble]

And abusing this but isn’t going out of a way?

[crimson current]

they soon will fix it

[frosty bridge]

What

[crimson current]

and at the end of the season

[frosty bridge]

I am saying

[stray adder]

that exploit was so 5head that it should be praised

[frosty bridge]

Ban every single outlaw exploiting it

[crimson current]

the peak of those exploters will be the keys they are doing now

[cobalt sphinx]

anyone know where to find critters near dornogal

[frosty bridge]

And Firedup not being banned is cringe but wcyd

[stray adder]

Liquid on top, it's all im gonna say

[frosty bridge]

I'm saying it's not comparable to taking lethality

Lol

[spice surge]

Ban all the rogues in rwf

[fallen arch]

Not the same thing

[spice surge]

Because they specced longer cloak

YEP

[crimson current]

know what? ban all the players

[patent vessel]

lmao, me panicking about supercharger and tracking it with WAs

[crimson current]

LITERALLY ALL

[gusty mirage]

based

[frosty bridge]

Again, you can have false positives there

[patent vessel]

meanwhile, whispyr: "it's fine. you're fine."

[violet sonnet]

!tea

[crimson current]

so everybody touch some grass

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[violet sonnet]

btw new tea is shit

[late tusk]

Its 15ks on aoe (3.4M simcs) significant?

[gusty mirage]

new tea is incredibly shit

but it is what it is

[crimson current]

CLOSE THE GAME BLIZZARD

[half dawn]

100% true and real

[frosty bridge]

Firedup was not a false positive, even Dratty and Liquid casters said that he should be banned

[crimson current]

totally shit

[frosty bridge]

Long cloak, lethality are

[violet sonnet]

saw the 3 outlaws fkn 16++ mists?

[crimson current]

ye

[violet sonnet]

gg blizz im paying money

[spice surge]

Man can we go back to not being fotm
No more comfy channel

[half dawn]

yeah its just normal

[crimson current]

xdd

[pseudo cosmos]

This

[opal plume]

so whats m+ build now sub ttk ma or without

[crimson current]

wait for queen mythic kill with 10 outlaw

[raw lodge]

https://i.imgur.com/RZKsNoN.png

Did i miss something????

the hell happened?

[balmy prism]

Check the pins in outlaw

[deep gyro]

No outlaw just crazy good

[balmy prism]

mega exploit

[half dawn]

Omega exploit

[harsh anchor]

New tech found

[crimson current]

no explot, just giga buffs and players are good

[half dawn]

Guess im gonna play assa rest of expac cuz im expect outlaw is getting nuked after this

[raw lodge]

BRUH

[pseudo cosmos]

Outlaw just hits harder they got swords and fist weapons

[deep gyro]

Actually they figure out that double dagger is better

[snow juniper]

do you have that link still

i wanna see it

[quiet oar]

They just need to fix the bug

[crimson current]

wait is this actually happening? i said as a joke

[frosty bridge]

Why would outlaw get nuked

[jaunty lotus]

They brought a gun to a sword fight

[raw lodge]

Are there any videos showing the bug? like a full boss fight of someone exploiting it?

[lunar pond]

Dude doing 250% of his previous logs due to bug lol. Clearing 15-16s when 13s were his wall. Effectively having an extra 1.5 dps in a key due to the outlaw exploit and not accounting for an ele sham in the group too

[snow juniper]

oh lol

[jaunty lotus]

Because blizzard usually can't just fix the bug without an accompanying aura nerf

[stray adder]

Who would've thought that adding a tent in tanaris would cause that many problems

[hearty reef]

Monkey paw outlaw buffs

[raw lodge]

log rankings are actually so funny to look at https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/38

[spice surge]

What? They did last time

[crimson current]

xdd

[pseudo cosmos]

Wonder if outlaw get nerfed across the board for this

[frosty bridge]

Idk man, it's literally just a bug fix, seems unlikely they nerf it

[pseudo cosmos]

If it’s too complicated to fix

[spice surge]

This bug was present when the raid was released

[balmy prism]

lmao the outlaw channel having a brainmelt

[tacit charm]

outlaw players are doing fine incase yall were wondering

[spice surge]

Like this exact bug

They have the fix

They just havent applied it

Because their version control is sussy

[tacit charm]

(:

[jaunty lotus]

But there wasn't so much outcry in the community

[stray adder]

I was gonna say, someone forgot to pull master into develop before making the release build

[balmy prism]

I mean surely pinning how to perform the exploit was a bad take lol, sure people would find out but not this fast and this many of them

[deep gyro]

I copy pasta and i havent exploited XD

[violet sonnet]

@spice surge they use folders in the cloud instead of github

[junior shore]

its a party in there

[sonic zinc]

wowhead posted it to the giga public

[crimson current]

theres a topic in wowhead about it

[balmy prism]

oh lol didn't know that, okay that was the major fuckup then

[raw lodge]

Population control.

[fresh kelp]

the assumption was the faster it spreads, the sooner it gets fixed

[tacit charm]

its so much fun

[balmy prism]

well guess that was wrong

[fresh kelp]

especially since it was a bug that was literally fixed before and brought back

[pseudo cosmos]

^

[junior shore]

yeah I have no idea why this is taking so long to fix

[stark umbra]

pirates be pirating

[midnight atlas]

bliz is sleeping

[broken sandal]

I cant quite understand the super cahrged combo point thing, so i track anythin in my combo points view? Does it simply act as if i spent 5 combo points if i sent on 3 for example, or 7 if i spent on 5? I dont need track? Just whatever i send on after a shiv?

[balmy prism]

probably gonna see a squish happen

[deep gyro]

Maybe they trying to figure out a punishment XD

[stark umbra]

no need to track

[charred helm]

the amount of 13-16 keys hes done is staggering

[stark umbra]

any finisher after ur shiv is supercharged, so +2cp

[surreal blade]

if we dont take the bug into account is ass still on top for raid/m+?

[spice surge]

You do not need to track anything. Your next finisher after shiv will count as +2 cp (assuming you have 1 point in it)

[subtle oyster]

They should know. They have CMs sitting in the class discords even.

[junior shore]

took me 3 hours to get into 13's before yesterday

[frosty bridge]

Blizzard was never good at communicating with the community

[broken sandal]

But it wont act as if you have spent a fulkl combo point to use darkest night? at least thats what my testing is showing?

[crimson current]

2669 haHAAAA

[frosty bridge]

Besides the short Realz period

[coral ibex]

correct

[amber brook]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[raw lodge]

most likely

[crimson current]

they need to fiz it bro

the amount of bad players who will get early high io

[balmy prism]

i mean the leaderboard is fucked for the rest of the season

unless a purge happens which wont

[frosty bridge]

I think they will 100% squish key scaling

[junior shore]

sin def still best imo

[broken sandal]

any min maxing with Envenom? Just send these days whenever energy allows trying to maximise 2 stacks wheneve rposs?

[spice surge]

Ye because the whole community has a massive meltdown once blizzard changes anything the community perceieves to be a bad change

[frosty bridge]

So it won't matter that people abuse this week

[crimson current]

dont think it is

still early season

[junior shore]

sikran and princess are good tho for us

[spice surge]

And throws deaththreats onto all their devs

Which is great fun /s

[crimson current]

if ppl time 15-16 now

[frosty bridge]

Idk man, you can't tell me that the wow community is worse than League

[crimson current]

end of season i think it will be 17-18

[frosty bridge]

And yet Riot has Meddler and all the high ups constantly on reddit

[crimson current]

idk

[stray adder]

blame the layoffs

[narrow flicker]

Believeme its not

[spice surge]

In some aspects it sure is

[frosty bridge]

Or Mortdog, number 1 TFT dev, literally streaming and chatti

[knotty canopy]

But the bug abuse keys done in previous seasons were removed too or not?

[balmy prism]

Yeah look at how people reacted to the 10% arcane/Frost which was just due to talent reworks and not actual inteded buffs, people had a complete meltdown without understanding because some wowhead post said "X SPEC IS GETTING SUPER NERFED!!! THESE SIMS SAY SO!!!"

[frosty bridge]

Getting flamed in chat

[stray adder]

quality of the product 📉

[crimson current]

nah, league community is the worst not even close

[pseudo cosmos]

They gotta reset the board to yesterday’s or what’s the point if it’s fucked

[crimson current]

even tho wow is not the greatest

[balmy prism]

Rust on top

[frosty bridge]

Maybe, but generally the people say that the league community is giga toxic

[cobalt sphinx]

me? i never complain, i am above these enlightened apes 🍵

[frosty bridge]

Though then again there's a shit ton of horrible people in the competitive wow community

[neat raptor]

Do you guys know why people are running the Empowering crystal instead of sacbrood? it looks worse on bloodmallet

[narrow flicker]

In league, in something like 50% of your games you will find someone that is in the game JUST to make sure the other 9 are not having fun.

[stray adder]

easy fix: dont play league

[frosty bridge]

But that's not the point

[rare jackal]

its really not that bad

[balmy prism]

better in m+ generally, sac is more ST

[crimson current]

thays how i fixed it

[pseudo cosmos]

Yea league is on another level people tilt off one coin flip play kek

[narrow flicker]

And come back to wow after 10 years. Worked for me hahahah

[frosty bridge]

The point is that Meddler, August etc all the HIGH UPS, are daily on reddit

[crimson current]

just play casual flex with friends and thays it

[cobalt sphinx]

league bad 🍵 please applaud

[frosty bridge]

Mortdog

[arctic socket]

This chat is crazy

[frosty bridge]

All these guys are on reddit talking to people

[arctic socket]

Goes from bug abuse

League

[cobalt sphinx]

reddit bad 🍵 please applaud

[arctic socket]

Etc 😂

[balmy prism]

go peak at the outlaw chat and you'll see truly crazy

[frosty bridge]

Meanwhile Blizzard never communicates shit

Feels so annoying being in the dark about questionable changes

[snow juniper]

they literally had to slow mode the chat

[jade carbon]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[pseudo cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-door-open-guy-gif-20372895

Peeking in outlaw

[quiet oar]

DOnt do that

[latent bluff]

huh? Taking Ethereal Cloak is a dmg buff?

[fallen arch]

Ye

Dont tell anyone tho

[crimson current]

apparently

[timber gate]

CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAzixsNDAAAAAAttMzMDzMYmZWmtxMDmHYmZGMmZbbZMDw2MLjNGzYWaMLLDT2GGWGA

Best talents

Dont ask anymore.

[spice spire]

Yep.
It just rawdogs flensing knives

[crimson current]

bro how blizzard do that stuff

[spice spire]

Spaghetti code

[crimson current]

like how can u talent something that isnt in the game anymore

holy fuck

[true shadow]

!wa

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[stray adder]

what a way to celebrate 20 years of wow

[cobalt sphinx]

coup de gracias

[quiet oar]

I wish we would eat the spaghetti like this

[limber lion]

Hmm

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/lady-and-the-tramp-dogs-spaghetti-kiss-kissing-gif-4765448

[snow juniper]

using transmitter as a dracthyr is painful

[tacit charm]

shhhh

[nova aspen]

i like beta testing

this is fun

[crimson current]

yea

[stray adder]

WoW has turned into a school project

[crimson current]

beta testing since 2004

[royal python]

can someone plz link the new WA for ttk

[snow juniper]

this one had me rolling

[wooden radish]

people have to be insanely deranged to think throwing dthreats is acceptable

[fallen arch]

Schizophrenic dh

[wooden radish]

but that must be a tiny minority

[quiet oar]

Its always the loud minority

[stray adder]

thats so cringe

[snow juniper]

im already getting tired seeing that key

[high pebble]

isnt it better to make the macro tea and then shiv

to apply more dmg?

[snow juniper]

heroic sacbrood, transmitter, and grace which combowins out

[merry bison]

Outlaw channel is completely off, it’s insane how much garbage channels there

Like rats

[obtuse sleet]

Good morning, is the new anima charge system no working to refresh darkest night now? I didnt see anything on the Pins

[high pebble]

#showtooltip Shiv
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
isnt this macro better if it was
#showtooltip Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
/cast Shiv

[charred helm]

tea change is stupid

[spice surge]

Obviously it is a minority, but for the devs or community managers it doesnt really change that much. Obviously 50 death threats is worse than 5, but 5 might still be enough to make you not want to interact with the community anymore

[pseudo cosmos]

Grace sac imo but sim it

[stray adder]

just remove critters from the game, they're always a part of crazy damage exploits

[quiet oar]

Eleem

can you increase slow mode in Outlaw chat, they literally go nuts in there

[spice spire]

Could be us

[inland escarp]

Their changes would possibly be better received and understood if they attempted to explain them though

[snow juniper]

hows everyone doing today? yall drink water today?

[cerulean compass]

True guys don't forget to drink water !

But I'm good what about you @snow juniper

[wooden radish]

absolutely, im just sad the actions of the few have ruined it for the many 😦

[quiet oar]

I wish

[quasi steeple]

This is the m+ one?

[balmy prism]

sac + grace if everything is the same ilvl

in st at least

[snow juniper]

doing good, WFH today closing on my house on friday 🙂

[spice spire]

Congrats big dog!

[royal python]

can someone plz link a standalone weak aura for TTK ?

[cerulean compass]

GG !

Wait is it positive cause I'm not english

[spice spire]

Yes

[cerulean compass]

lesgooo

[raw lodge]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[molten flicker]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

He is working from home today and finishing the sequence to buy a house (or sell fwiw) tomorrow

Both are good things

[stray adder]

I love the attention outlaw is getting because it takes it away from sin

[cerulean compass]

I understood the first one ! 😄

[snow juniper]

ye 😄

[cerulean compass]

GG ! 😄

[fresh kelp]

Outlaw will be fixed and y’all will take them back

[icy mantle]

wich build meta for rogue? have differents

[snow juniper]

i missed this discord. was a ret andy for a little now im back to stab things

[icy mantle]

in sinc is bis

[cerulean compass]

Watafak is outlaw channel ?

Are they going crazy ? XD

[pseudo cosmos]

Memes

[half dawn]

When my mother was pregnant with me, the doctor told her she could drink and smoke and it would not harm me (the baby). Now, some years later I am abusing the outlaw bug. Did the doctor lie to my mother?

[pseudo cosmos]

You got regulars and fotm rogues looking to bug abuse

Is wild

[astral pivot]

guys any video guide on assa rotation you can recommend?

[quiet oar]

Whispyr has some on his yt channel

[astral pivot]

ill check it out thanks

[thorn fjord]

So after trying both builds last night a few times the subterfuge Ma TTK build def fucks

Nice qol stuff… but is more prevalent running this build for whatever reason tho

But wasn’t happening THAT much

[buoyant pier]

!wa

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[fervent relic]

are there any more detailed crafting suggestions then on wowhead?

[hoary remnant]

can you share pls?

[tall jay]

So, I am having a brain issue....so, if we are playing DS still and we are chasing the mark and we have 3 marks, the only way to get the mark back is a full 7 cp envenom or a vanish ambush? but the buff runs out after three 5-7pt evenenoms? so we don't have the buff for a while? Am I doing something wrong?

[vital dew]

is assassination the better spec for delves?

[coral ibex]

no, the marks are also damage

[zealous wolf]

what

[ebon notch]

the wowhead m+ build is not up to date correct?

[zealous wolf]

it is

[thorn fjord]

It is

[ebon notch]

no MA no subt?

[zealous wolf]

but m+ is not yet set whats the best build

[ebon notch]

or am i cooked

[thorn fjord]

It’s a different build

Both work well

[zealous wolf]

hybrid is still good

[coral ibex]

you can play whatever build you like really

[spice spire]

Check pins bud

[coral ibex]

some play subt MA some play hybrid

[ebon notch]

ye i did

thats why i asked

nerd

[spice spire]

We’re in the wild Wild West

[ebon notch]

im trying to mdi big blast

[spice spire]

It tells you how to fix it

[thorn fjord]

@ebon notch drop recupperater and super charge for subt and drop sand blade and sudden demise for TTK and MA

[spice spire]

Brother just big abuse outlaw nbd

[zealous wolf]

mdi big blaster asking us, you tell us mf

[ebon notch]

i dont wanna get banned

[ebon notch]

im rogue noob

[spice spire]

Wish you would

[ebon notch]

never played

[spice spire]

Stfu fotm

[thorn fjord]

I just hooked you up breh

[ebon notch]

thats a more aoe focused build right

[shut garnet]

what does the dgslice sim actually look like btw? just curious cuz if i just do some multitarget sims of the MA+TTK build it seems to lose out pretty drastically (like 8-10%) to just the old build with subterfuge talented on 3,5,8 etc target pulls and come out about 2-3% ahead on a 3 min patchwerk encounter, so just tryina understand how in a dungeonslice sim the build comes out 3% ahead

[thorn fjord]

The form special

[ebon notch]

as opposed to the suggested which is hybrid

[thorn fjord]

It’s m+

You’ll have more ST on bosses too

[ebon notch]

oh with what you suggested?

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

[ebon notch]

kk ill try it out

[strange python]

are people running crimson tempest in keys

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

[barren yarrow]

CT all day everyday in M+

[strange python]

what do you drop to get spikes then

[thorn fjord]

Spike’s?

[strange python]

bone spikes

do you not go MA in keys

[thorn fjord]

You keep sbs

[pseudo cosmos]

Sick em boy

[spice spire]

You drop sd sb

[thorn fjord]

You drop sang blade for MA

[barren yarrow]

whispyr has a M+ build on wowhead.

[spring moat]

@glacial crypt have you logged in yet or still on your trip

[ebon notch]

what is sand blade

oh

sang blade

[thorn fjord]

Yeah sorry auto correct e

[broken sandal]

Anyone hagve iossues with DM falling off?

[ebon notch]

i need another point for ttk tho

[spice spire]

Sudden Demise bud

[thorn fjord]

Sudden demise

[ebon notch]

sry im dum

what did i do wrong

[barren yarrow]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/mythic-plus-dungeon-tips @ebon notch

[rapid talon]

you have a point in systemic failure

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/pound-sand-gif-26311922

[final star]

left on amp poison

[pseudo cosmos]

Take out the point below stratagem

[final star]

get that GONE

[rapid talon]

take that out and put it in TTK

[spice spire]

Silence sub main

[final star]

I've played assa more than fotm wth

[ebon notch]

OH

i couldnt figure out what ttk was

[charred helm]

is Without a Trace even worth it? i feel like smacking the point into 1/2 lethality lol

[ebon notch]

i gotchu

[spice spire]

Hard to do worse than 0

[ebon notch]

sry

[final star]

real

[ebon notch]

i confused it with ttb

[royal lantern]

bruh, fotm plays a class for like 6 hours and then reroll lmao

[final star]

he's playing it because he's forced to in mdi

He hates it

[thorn fjord]

Or plays it for 6 hours and gets world top 20 parses

All

[spice spire]

[final star]

objectively speaking

[ebon notch]

wth

id smoke all of you in raid as assa

[pseudo cosmos]

Ye but outlaw exists and is bugged so might be longer

[ebon notch]

dont make me step up

smh

[final star]

[royal lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810298051281420308/1298960461542461481/Galfy4JbEAEIxz3.jpg?ex=671b76b3&is=671a2533&hm=509a72929805ad4c9772f80cf00a849a5300f600a4249530de58f0828b44fc7c& @spice spire us?

[west lantern]

Any testing on the temporary raid trinkets?

[thorn fjord]

Bro I know lmaoo

[spice spire]

How about you smoke my pubes buddy

[thorn fjord]

Lock it in

[spice spire]

Yessir

[pseudo cosmos]

[thorn fjord]

Very not cool

[spice spire]

They’re all eh afaik

[royal lantern]

bad

[royal lantern]

please step on me

[thorn fjord]

Pubes are for flossing

[spice spire]

[glacial crypt]

I won't be home until Monday night

How come?

[glacial crypt]

what the fuck have i just walked in on hang on

[zealous wolf]

what do we think of this build casual is playing?
dont flame me for copying top players, im still playing hybrid but im just asking 🙂

[amber brook]

How do you guys open on silken court?

[glacial crypt]

mythic or hc/nm?

[final star]

it is the highest simming build without any apl changes to accomodate 11.0.5 changes

[amber brook]

Hc

[thorn fjord]

Makes sense he’s swapping sin considering it’s fotm

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[pseudo cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[royal lantern]

!wa

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[glacial crypt]

apply your mark to anub, dot up both skein and anub then just start full sending into anub with cds - don't hold

[vital galleon]

Guys, is this build that Casual is using the new m+ build?

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFBRRUVZiRBCUQMVURUUUYVURoVBEEVVVUCEA

[ebon notch]

y'all sus

[vital galleon]

Or is this some other shit

[final star]

I miss r1 assa rogue fotm

[ebon notch]

just wait till i get on mdi stream and forget to apply deathstalkers mark

[final star]

bring back r1 assa fotm

[strange python]

!wa

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[royal lantern]

i swear, can we delete the concept of streamers, so that people dont ask the same shit every 40 seconds

[final star]

he flew too close to the sun

[spice spire]

This looks like a raid build

[royal lantern]

and we get endless "IS NOT APPLYING MARK WHAT WE DO NOW??????" questions?

[ebon notch]

nah i figured it out

took me an hour tho

[final star]

[spice spire]

I’m actually going to clown you so hard

[vital galleon]

I see. So the other build is still best for m+?

[spice spire]

If you make it to stream I’m going to be hate watching tf out of you

[final star]

remember to unbind SnD and Echoing Reprimand!

[thorn fjord]

Already pre subbing

[final star]

He made it to stream

they got 12th

[spice spire]

No definite build yet just okay whatever

[ebon notch]

ye we qualified

[spice spire]

CNnot wait to hate watch fotm

[vital galleon]

I see. Thanks

[final star]

Neither can the entirety of Advance and everyone he's ever known in wow

[spice spire]

Gonna ping you in ur discord every mistake I see

[final star]

we ready to hate (support) our boy

[spice spire]

Gonna log review him in real time

[ebon notch]

XD

i wont turn on personal stream

get fkd

[spring moat]

Just wondered your opinion on the changes

[thorn fjord]

Wow

[final star]

streets saying he's gonna do more damage cos he sent his cd's that pack and the other rogue didn't

[thorn fjord]

What about the fans bro

[sharp viper]

nice, can I get that as well

[spice spire]

Buddy if you think that I don’t have animations memorized you’re wild

[spice spire]

Sure bud

Down to be a hater from time to time

[spice spire]

Only fan lil bro has is fan of knives

[royal lantern]

our mw monk was sending a video of a mw bug

meanwhile there was a assa rogue hitting the dummy, and my first reaction was "wtf is that opener?" based on the animations itself

[ebon notch]

hehe

[cinder quartz]

quake in his hater era

[ebon notch]

its more pressure streaming it

if we qualify for global finals (lmao) ill personal stream

[spring moat]

@spice spire dang near 90% uptime on envenom lawl

[royal lantern]

era? its a constant state

[sharp viper]

i constantly get shrouded opener and non shrouded opener confused

[severe pagoda]

guys i always did more than 80% parses, now my preformance is much less, what did i wrong?
It's my logs from Myth Sikran:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3yWhQBzMbkLJ6YnZ#fight=20&type=damage-done

I want to improve my skills

[cinder quartz]

ping quake with a random log you found then ask "can you review?" and then afk for 3 hours

[ebon notch]

oh yeah does anythign change in keys with subt and shrouded

[spring moat]

Parses depend on your group too. Kill speed is a big factor

[sharp viper]

why afk? wouldn't you want to enjoy the show

[severe pagoda]

so 5:07 for Sikran boss is too high? i don't think so

I may be wrong ofc

[thorn fjord]

Should play about the same… subt allows you to move mark around in stealth window which is nice

[spring moat]

I’m in same boat. Went from purples to high greens and blues. Lol and my dps is higher than last week

[severe pagoda]

yeah. That's kinda rly odd

[ebon notch]

oh true

[eager thunder]

Hey guy's you think icy veins or wowhead are update for build? I have a raid tonight and Im lost xD the rogue assa stay strong in raid?

[thorn fjord]

Wow head up to date

[spring moat]

Check pins

[ebon notch]

i wonder if i drop 1 point in lethality for recup tho

cause its fixed

the regen might be nice

[royal lantern]

ill give it 3 more days

[novel star]

envenom weakauras are so fucking annoying

[strange python]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[slate crown]

u ok?

[patent heart]

How much of a gain is it really to track envenom that closely?

[broken birch]

It's not anymore right?

[final star]

No lethality is too good and it only trigger from vanish

[novel star]

yea

just annoyed

[final star]

Wait that's the other one I'm dumb

[novel star]

whispyr has to yoink ur shit again

[final star]

But yeah lethality too good with KB now

[novel star]

cus it occasionally fails to show the 2nd stack

but your new one does not do that anymore

[patent heart]

Pretty sure with twist the knife you don't have to think about it but without ttk it's worth something

[novel star]

but i dont want two envenom was on my screen

[slate crown]

Yeah I completely rewrote it

and it's better now

[novel star]

seems better 4 sure

[arctic socket]

@slate crown you’re a goat

[slate crown]

If you want to only show the second one, the one with pandemic, you can hide one with conditions I suppose

[novel star]

this where im at rn with this frankenstein s hit

i dont think i can be bothered to make it look proper

[final star]

[torpid schooner]

How the hell does the echo reprimand change work now

[final star]

Just make them taller and make them grow vertical lmao

[slate crown]

yeah he flips them to be vertical side by side, I think if you swap the orientation to Top to Bottom in display, then make the Grow in the Group be something like Left or Right

Right now the custom grow is specifically for horizontal

[final star]

You press shiv and your next finisher(s) do more cp damage

[slate crown]

if you want them like Whispyr has it you don't need the custom grow, you can just do a normal grow

Or you can just wait on whispyr

to update his version

[torpid schooner]

So would you just press shiv and then hit a spender and it gives you max CP?

[arctic socket]

No it gives +2 points

[quartz locust]

+2 cp

[novel star]

holyy not bad

W LE

[slate crown]

You may have to fiddle with it a bit to test it

[torpid schooner]

Ah

[vagrant brook]

just play normally like finish at 5+ all the time and at 7 with DN
profit

[torpid schooner]

I kinda hate it

[final star]

It's taller than the icons next to it

[vagrant brook]

dont think about it

[novel star]

i know man

[marsh lion]

is crystal still bis for m+?

[final star]

Fix it now

[torpid schooner]

Anyone else hate the Tea change?

[arctic socket]

Why do you hate it?

[final star]

Right now

[novel star]

whispyrs was already fucked anyway

[vital dew]

potentially stupid question.. I cant focus target a tricks macro in my opener from stealth right?

[novel star]

i give up

[arctic socket]

The tea change is fine

[red cloak]

2 questions, is there a way to get to the 2 shiv charges talent off this? and second question is for m+ during a pull do I vanish improved garrote deathmark kingsbane and shiv when kingsbane hits 8 seconds

[arctic socket]

Bind tea to shiv and forget about it

Or just legit take it off your bars

If you just spam and have it auto proc is like a 0.2% difference 🤷

[torpid schooner]

Shiv is a good damage increase during KB though

[winged widget]

If I Cloak before getting hit by Kyveza's Assassination, do I get the orbs still?

[vital dew]

as long as you have a macro to prevent you using multiple charges yeah

[arctic socket]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[arctic socket]

[vital dew]

well there ya go!

[hexed canopy]

!wa

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[vital dew]

but yeah can tricks be macroed onto like ambush or something?

[pulsar basin]

would u ever play ttk/MA with vanish build or nah

[torpid schooner]

Yea I just hate that it auto procs at 30 energy

[arctic socket]

Ttk and ma goes hard in m+

It’s weird dropping bonespike at first but like

[ebon notch]

ASSA NOT THE PLAY

[arctic socket]

The single damage you get from it and aoe is pretty sick 👌

[harsh anchor]

I like to edge my tea as close as I can before it procs

[coral ibex]

go reroll something else and leave

[sour oasis]

!wa

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[late gulch]

Mind showing how a build like that looks like to try out =)?

[coral ibex]

-sd-sb +ma +ttk

[ebon notch]

you have no idea what im talking about

[final star]

[ebon notch]

@spice spire @thorn fjord assa is very not bueno in stonevault

[spice spire]

If you’re bad

[late gulch]

but is the class tree the same or is it with subter aswell?

[ebon notch]

everything is the same hp

i mark one thing and it insta dies

with my cds on it

[spice spire]

Key too low gg go next

[final star]

Then mark the big mobs duh

[ebon notch]

they also insta die

its a 10

[spice spire]

Yeah

[final star]

The start of the dungeon you can do like 6M easy

[spice spire]

Key too low

[pseudo cosmos]

?

[final star]

On a 14 you can do 10M for sure

[novel star]

what the fuck is it doing

WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT

[hexed canopy]

are you guys still using Ara Kara Sacbrood or are you switching to the Crystall from dawnbreaker?

[novel star]

[slate crown]

Does it match your actual envenom buff?

because sometimes envenom itself does this

[novel star]

i dont think so

lemme rewatch the clip

pretty sure it falls to 1 stack when the wa shows them synced still

[coral ibex]

been on anub crystal for a while, sim your gear

[slate crown]

Something like this happened early on in testing the new version but then it stopped and we could never reproduce it

[ebon notch]

it wont go higher than 11 or 12 tho

[slate crown]

And I haven't seen it to be able to reproduce it

[hexed canopy]

boith are simming about the same, differnce is 400dps in favor of anub

[novel star]

fuck i didnt stop hitting the dummy after

i hit another envenom

so i dont actually know if its accurate or not

[slate crown]

Cause like

[final star]

12 too because of affox changerooo

[ebon notch]

ye but i doubt theyll go to 12

cause then you dont see the affixes

at least thats our theory

[high walrus]

my deathstalker mark just dissapeared unironically 10+ times in the key I just did

very funny

[slate crown]

If you do Big envenom -> Big envenom (that's 2 big stacks) -> Small envenom, the small envenom eats both stacks (i.e. it doesn't really "overlap" and it kills one of your longer stacks) which is a known envenom bug

[final star]

I hope you're wrong

[high walrus]

seemingly completely random

[slate crown]

And the WA accounts for it

[final star]

Cos it going to 11 would be poopy stinky

[slate crown]

I have a specific section to account for this bug and match the buff

and what your clip showed looks similar to that

[novel star]

what the hell

[tranquil birch]

I really hate deathstalker in m+ tbh

[thorn fjord]

What level keys do they run in MDI?

15;s?

[molten echo]

I’ve noticed it usually happens when I kill a mob with an envenom, like lasthit it

[final star]

Play fatebound then

[unreal parcel]

!wa

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[high walrus]

it dissapeared twice on amarth in nw

[tranquil birch]

I do a lot of the time, but it seems kind of troll

[slate crown]

If you find the aura is doing that and what I described isn't the case let me know more, haven't been able to reproduce or find it to troubleshoot.

[high walrus]

first time I was like yeah whatever I have vanish

[barren linden]

how much dps if i went to fatebound for m+?

[final star]

You tell me

[novel star]

what do big envenom and small envenom mean exactly

[slate crown]

if/when they fix the bug the accounting is easy to remove from the aura, I quaranteed the management of it

[final star]

I'm just giving the solution not the method

[inner current]

took me 2 hours, have fun

[pseudo cosmos]

im allready done and in

[final star]

@ebon notch pay me 50p and I'll coach you let's go

[surreal canopy]

is the m+ build on wowhead up to date?

[slate crown]

Try to get 2 back to back big envenom,s then immediately garrote envenom for a 1 cp envenom

[ebon notch]

we're dropping rogue

after this dungeon

[spice spire]

That’s a steal from a hall of fame rogue

[final star]

No fucking way hahahahahha

[red cloak]

during a pull in m+ when ur already in combat, do you vanish > improved garrote > deathmark > kingsbane?

[ebon notch]

gonna do aug ele smth

[spice spire]

Ain’t no way

[novel star]

Ok heres an example from another dummy clip of having 1 stack but the WA shows 2

[ebon notch]

100%

dogshit in stonevault

[spice spire]

Man is so shit they said nah

[final star]

You're clowning

[blazing jewel]

@ebon notch I’ll play your rogue

Just open the door

[steel ridge]

whats this weeks quest for spark? i dont seem to have gotten it

[final star]

Open ne noor

[high walrus]

they should give assa another 20 debuffs that just appear after hitting a mob once

[thorn fjord]

Damn someone called it

[high walrus]

the visual clarity is crazy

[misty kernel]

tbh whoever abused bugs just pathatic end of story

[blazing jewel]

[final star]

Thanks for ur input Mr cool

[sour oasis]

guys

[spice spire]

It’s fixed now

[sour oasis]

the new two green bar

[spice spire]

Doesn’t matter

[sour oasis]

how they work on the new weak aura

[pearl flower]

Lies no fix yet

[sour oasis]

bc sometimes i have the both but only one stack

[ebon notch]

its not a me issue

wth

[final star]

It definitely is fotm lmao

[slate crown]

Thanks, looking into it

[final star]

Assa wrecks that dunge9n

Even on a 10

[ebon notch]

????

we're all 638

[spice spire]

Yeah

[ebon notch]

ele and frost are doing well over 10m dps

everything literally explodes

[spice spire]

On a ten

[sour oasis]

Thanks for create it ❤️

[spice spire]

You’re not doing fuck all bud

Just push it

[sour oasis]

do you see how play kush with that ? just two icons of envenom

[spice spire]

Sin does crank that dungeon though

[final star]

First pull ill give you cos all the mobs are 50% hp and shit

[ebon notch]

ye but 10/11 is the expected key range

if we go to 12s then sure

back on rogue

[final star]

But the rest of the dungeon

[spice spire]

I’d feel like mdi

[final star]

You would just not dm the first pack

[spice spire]

Would be higher than 10/11s

[final star]

And send it on boss

[amber brook]

For twist the knife, are we supposed to envenom once we hit the blue line (Whisp's WA) or just under the blue line

[ebon notch]

they really arent that high hp either

thats the issue

right side there's 1 big mob in the whole area that you pull

rest are equal hp shitters

[keen mist]

https://www.twitch.tv/vspeed/clip/WanderingAcceptablePlumOhMyDog-3oagf5TGIwmeKqrb?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time

[final star]

You can do 2M overall on a disorganised 11 with a to b pulls

[ebon notch]

2m overall is low for mdi tho

[final star]

With bigger pulls and organised group you're smoking on that pack

[ebon notch]

considering we're doing 10-15 min runs

[vital dew]

#showtooltip Ambush
/cast [@focus,exists] Tricks of the Trade
/cast Ambush

so like.. would this work?

or need two globals

not in game just trying somethin

[slate crown]

Any time under the blue

[gleaming geyser]

tricks is off gcd so it would work

[vital dew]

sweet

[spice spire]

Yeah bug is known

[split veldt]

https://x.com/Herotherogue/status/1849241680073105521?t=CMUHC2kcdOIkNN9dMypf9Q

Rat with a knife🐀 (@Herotherogue) on X

"Hero hero why do you hate ret paladins?"
- Comparison of my specs opener vs there entire rotation guide

Twitter · Oct 24, 2024, 12:09 AM

[noble nymph]

also thought blue line is pandemic for old envenom

[spice spire]

Sucks

[keen mist]

is the condition for it known

[static shore]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

No.
It seems to be less common in raid and more in keys

But not that I’m aware of

[keen mist]

looks like its something with being slightly out of range when consuming darkest night

[spice spire]

It just randomly stops

Could be

[final star]

Bring back long arms @midnight mist was right all along

[amber brook]

ty

[ebon notch]

frame it zac

[frail geyser]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[novel star]

i have now gone from hating ttk weakauras to just hating ttk

what the fuck is going on with this talent

holy shit man

[cobalt sphinx]

i think you are safe to just spam envenom

and ignore it entirely

[torpid schooner]

What is the bug exploit?

[cobalt sphinx]

it's trickster only, so not possible on assassination

[fallen arch]

Wrong channel yellow name

[thorn slate]

Whats the new opening rotation for AOE and ST ?

[calm grail]

Ambush.

Bleed.

Poison.

[sour oasis]

TTK is so hard to play fdkqfkldfql

[calm grail]

Is it?

I'm pretty sure a WA can do 90% of the heavy lifting.

[spring briar]

whats ttk?

[fair blaze]

Twist the knife

[hollow vessel]

Hey! Last week I was blinding parasites at Ovinax, but it seems that it doesnt work now? I am not sure though
Did they change it?

[sour oasis]

i am tilted bc it hard to track hit

with weak aura

[thorn slate]

Is WoWhead updated with M+ specs?

[cobalt sphinx]

everyone is just creating fake difficulty for themselves when you can just spam envenom

[sour oasis]

Kush do it well but we need to pay to have hsi WA ahaha

[torpid schooner]

Anyone have a ttk weakaura?

[spring briar]

ty <3

[sour oasis]

No mike, in raid u dont want that

because we hate auto proc of tea

[spring briar]

no

[royal lantern]

@shrewd night you think im actually using the yahtzee pirate channel? just saw the bug fix and watched the fire

[neat smelt]

most FREE rogue WA packs have TTK tracking

[ebon lava]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[sour oasis]

if the auto proc of tea doesn't exist, will be better

[topaz locust]

I was running this build for Ovinax mythic before they changed it with the patch,... I have 1 point left over now. what should I put it into super charger?

[shrewd night]

Sauce?

[neat smelt]

im using Devlin's, does the job pretty well and you can swap things around in custom options to your liking if you want

[ebon lava]

LE collection tracks ttk

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-ranch-sauce-mayo-box-gif-24188163

[radiant raven]

bit much ranch

[torpid schooner]

Is it worth to run ttk in mythic?

[fair blaze]

Second point in lethality is good for KB double dipping

[topaz locust]

thank you

[vital dew]

Lol the outlaw channel is losing their minds

[topaz locust]

Over the bug?

[rugged oyster]

wait until they get nerfed to the ground

[vital dew]

oh no it got hotfixed already

but the bans rolled out

https://tenor.com/view/none-of-my-business-tea-kermit-frog-gif-5084362

[chilly mist]

dont think anyone has been banned yet mate

[vital dew]

Oh then people are lying in the channel lol

[chilly mist]

yup

[north halo]

is it worth to drop sanguine for master assasin and sudden fot TTK in m+?

[charred helm]

:/ thats low right

[scarlet warren]

yeah people are posting fake ban images

[north halo]

and should i specc also into subterfurge for ST raid?

[ebon steppe]

Bugs everywhere my fking god

[royal lantern]

thats nothing new

[ebon steppe]

DN bugs are back

[chilly mist]

atleast once every dungeon I enter pack not realizing I lost Darkest Night, so thats fun

[inland escarp]

Very

[thin plinth]

guys do these talents make any sense ?

[chilly mist]

Soothing Darkness no

[strange python]

1% more crit

[ebon steppe]

And is later tier changes functioning correctly now?

[strange python]

Hey do we still need iron?

[thin plinth]

what if i do 2x in lethality instead of soothing darkness

[vestal copper]

Noob question, what is TTK?

[slate crown]

New version up which should fix this issue

But

[strange python]

Twist the knife