assassination

[static glacier]

ngl it woulda died yesterday if I was abusing the bug

[deep gyro]

Big dam

[solar wyvern]

Go check outlaw channel pins

[oak tangle]

it is on wowhead too, which is so weird to explain how to do it

[oak eagle]

kek

[deep gyro]

Because some hero talents work when u switch them its something to do with that. I believe there is a wowhead post too

[oak eagle]

so basically just free bte while in stealth at all times

thats cringe

[deep gyro]

Plot twist they are baiting bans

[soft shale]

but is also on sub but there are like 10 players

so you catch it fast

[solar wyvern]

And the impact it has on sub compared to outlaw is quite night and day

[deep gyro]

Hmm maybe we do itXD

[soft shale]

yea sub has not much cdr crazyness

[pseudo cosmos]

Tbh this is fine the more who do it the more exposure this cringe bug gets and hope it gets fast tracked to fixed

[solar wyvern]

Just some fat finishers

[soft shale]

apart from having full uptime on set

that one is decent but not broken

[oak tangle]

i dont think it needs more exposure, i am sure they are already aware

[round shell]

!wa

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[oak tangle]

all more exposure will do is reduce the likelyhood of bans

and encourage exploiting more

[raw zephyr]

i honestly hope they ban people, u can't really justify a very specific exploit with very specific actions taken to be an innocent mistake

[pseudo cosmos]

Then if they are aware just disable the talent or hotfix it

[solar wyvern]

Yeah just disabled a capstone of a hero tree

Hmmm

[pseudo cosmos]

Big doubt

It’s blizzard expected nothing probs get nothing

[oak eagle]

i mean

they did ban people who abused the rep bug

[crisp ingot]

they didn’t ban anyone that used the ER bug

[raw zephyr]

not having consequences for these exploits just promotes a shitty toxic culture and makes the entire game redundant to begin with, we should demand consequnces instead of debating wether we should hop on the abuse wagon, smh

[subtle tundra]

triple outlaw keys are back??!?!? with same dps as bfa s2??

[golden loom]

whats the outlaw bug? perma AR?

[drowsy hatch]

perma coup

[oak tangle]

perma +5 cp

[oak eagle]

check outlaw pins

[raw zephyr]

if they ban world first progress exploit, they should ban m+ progress exploit. simple as that

[deep gyro]

So its like they playing with 1.5 hero talents

[subtle tundra]

no

its better

[regal cloud]

way better

[deep gyro]

Damn.

[pseudo cosmos]

It’s way better

Not even close

[oak tangle]

it's like they have DN every envenom

[deep gyro]

So like whos got the keys to the bandwagon.

[deep gyro]

That sounds nice.

[regal linden]

still not fixed?

[subtle tundra]

i hope all the keys with the abuse get deleted

[regal linden]

omg

[wild hound]

Basically doubles the damage of their biggest abilities. Absolutely ridiculous

[subtle tundra]

so those people waste their time

[pseudo cosmos]

What keys just change spec and pick the talent doors open

[deep gyro]

Facts

[subtle tundra]

i think its insane blizzard is saying NOTHING

on this matter

[grim jay]

What er bug

[subtle tundra]

i guess they dont care cause its not rwf

[blazing grove]

If we pay MA and Subterfuge does it change our rotation?

[balmy condor]

Using ER to proc darkest night was a bug all along

[deep gyro]

I think there are so many bugs and getting feedback from all these entitled classes asking for buffs/nerfs. they are probably working on it but not mention anything.

[oak eagle]

????? no way

[inland escarp]

lol my friends guild doesn’t stay very up to date on things. They had a guy trial last night as outlaw while abusing the bug. They thought they recruited rogue Jesus 😂 felt bad breaking their hearts

[pseudo cosmos]

Kek the warrior

[subtle tundra]

wrong screenshot? where are the feet?

[deep gyro]

Nani

[balmy condor]

I’m joking

Holy

[subtle tundra]

im jorking it

[grim jay]

Dont think you wanna see outlaw feet

[balmy condor]

Double ping

[oak eagle]

hey i wasnt sure

[balmy condor]

Okay back to sleep my bad

[oak eagle]

nighty whispy

[balmy condor]

No kek allowed

[rotund oak]

wait no

[deep gyro]

Sorry friend i was just baffled XD

[rotund oak]

dont go

[subtle tundra]

i love drunk bedge
its insta sleep

[grim jay]

@balmy condor you got it wrong. Playing er while it didnt work was the bug abuse

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

We abused it to deal lower dmg

[devout rock]

hey guys, question, why some people prefer to play sub in ky'veza, council and queen

[oak eagle]

fuck do i play outlaw tomorrow in raid

kill ovinax?

nah dont think so tbh

[deep gyro]

Are u follower or a leader?

[oak eagle]

dont wanna get banned

[subtle tundra]

if you need an exploit to kill ovinax then maybe get better!

[grim jay]

Id pray for your ban if you do

[deep gyro]

But my guild sucks from time to time. I need extra dam to carry them

[oak eagle]

^

[subtle tundra]

sucks, as in, sexually?

[raw zephyr]

is that how you'll be opening your ban appeal?

[drowsy hatch]

no thats me

[deep gyro]

100%

[subtle tundra]

dont steal my job

[lament laurel]

to whomever it may concern But my guild sucks from time to time. I need extra dam to carry them

[deep gyro]

Lol

[pseudo cosmos]

[drowsy hatch]

I'm sure youre better anyways dw I'm just backup

[raw zephyr]

justified haha

[grim jay]

Blizz wtf, hard content hard, need to abuse bugs to do it

[deep gyro]

You need :
yYour honor at the start

[subtle tundra]

i was voted best suck doer

[pseudo cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[subtle tundra]

if im gone you have some big shoes to fill

[deep gyro]

Actually yes too.

[drowsy hatch]

I'll train every day

[golden loom]

"So why did you abuse outlaw on ovinaxx?"

[grim jay]

I bet you have like 45

Or 46

[subtle tundra]

see you in goldshire

[deep gyro]

Im lost at this number?

[pseudo cosmos]

[grim jay]

Its EU size

[subtle tundra]

chromosomes

[grim jay]

How would I know freedom sizes

[raw zephyr]

if they dont ban or atleast revert progress achieved by this exploit, the incoming tilt is >

[pseudo cosmos]

Hahah

[deep gyro]

Lol too smooth brain at 7 am

[pseudo cosmos]

Freedom sizes

[subtle tundra]

definetly depends how much it spreads before its fixed

its getting there

[pseudo cosmos]

So like basically the whole playerbase and ur next of kin

[subtle tundra]

my child wouldnt touch outlaw

watch your tongue

[grim jay]

Same

[zenith cedar]

Outlaw should have stayed where it belonged, in the grave, now there will be GRAVE consequences

[grim jay]

Id give it away if it were to play outlaw

[pseudo cosmos]

Id just reroll if they said rogue is outlaw only

[dim mural]

If bans go out, people gonna compare it to imfiredup in RWF and complain they got banned while he didn't, RWF privilege etc.

[shut robin]

!wa

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[subtle tundra]

you cant compare

[raw zephyr]

yup, this is definitely a logical increment in skill, forsure forsure

[subtle tundra]

4% dmg

to 2x damage

what the fuck do you mean

[pseudo cosmos]

Bruh

11 4 days ago

[zenith cedar]

have u tried playing outlaw?

[pseudo cosmos]

Into a 14

[dim mural]

Do you think that matters to these people?

[subtle tundra]

yes cause punishment should be proportional to the crime

[pseudo cosmos]

Tbh if ur this thirsty for Rio then I’m not surprised if ur a rat that needs to exploit a bug

[grim jay]

Thats how we all lost some of our braincells

[oak tangle]

you know what is going under the radar

[somber geyser]

if we do 2x mutilate and end up on 4 combo-points, do we do a third to land at 5 or more combo points?

[raw zephyr]

I dont have the baseline haste this expansion lol. but no definitely, its the way to go, 11's are naturally convereted to 14 ezpz

[oak tangle]

the people abusing the bug, but are just so bad its not noticeable

[dim mural]

You are applying nuance in, that does not exist for a lot of players. Especially those that exploits and gets banned while that other guy didn't

[zenith cedar]

idk my rogue is doing 8s --> 13s what gives

[dim mural]

I'm not saying it's a correct comparison

[subtle tundra]

i hope every single outlaw that has done the bug gets perma banned

idc

[zenith cedar]

some people have run keys before on other characters

[drowsy hatch]

I just hope every outlaw is banned

[oak tangle]

i hope every single outlaw gets banned

[subtle tundra]

(this is not my rational side, its my emotional side speaking)

[pseudo cosmos]

From 11+ key banned k ty

[dim mural]

I agree

[pseudo cosmos]

Or 12

[raw zephyr]

If you think playing 8's and then hopping straight into 13's has nothing to do with exploit, then you probably should be teaching us something

[grim jay]

What does that have to do with the sudden overall max key increase of people that are actually good

[oak tangle]

the worst thing to happen to me in raid was when i won a mace offhand

[subtle tundra]

should i get banned too? i didnt do any 11 or 13

too big jump...

[zenith cedar]

if you think you really need to go 1 key level at a time regardless of your experience level idk what to tell u

dont go and look at one of Yodas alts

[grim jay]

Yes unrelated to any keylevel

[subtle tundra]

wtf

send feet pics or i dont forgive you

[oak eagle]

except you cant compare, these guys are completing keys, Firedup used it for a few pulls where the boss was nowhere close to dead

[pseudo cosmos]

U killed myth queen so I’ll let it slide

[subtle tundra]

i exploited on that too(assa boss dps is crazy good)

[zenith cedar]

my characters first key timed was ++11 in 600 ilvl does that mean i am an exploiting cheater who must only have done that from a bug?

[zinc frost]

Reported for being based

[dim mural]

I know, just saying that some might still do it if they get banned

[subtle tundra]

WHAT

[glass junco]

BRO IM IN CLASS FFS

[raw zephyr]

I don't, but I think if you've going on a slow and steady pace and all of a sudden go from 100% to 350% when an exploit is available, then I can do my math

[subtle tundra]

SHE HAS NO XALATHUSSY?

[oak eagle]

k the real question tho, did you get the ring?

[subtle tundra]

if i talk about loot

i get emotional

no i dont

i dont have any rare loot

[spring sigil]

Actually at a loss here. 627 itlvl ass rogue and I'm seeing other rogues with a lot more damage than me. Just done an Ovi'nax kill and the rogue who had 1.65m damage vs my 1.48m damage has a lot more caustic spatter damage

[oak eagle]

thats crazy

[subtle tundra]

we dropped mythic cloak yesterday it was ROLLED out

[pseudo cosmos]

[spring sigil]

And i dunno why because as far as I'm aware i constantly keep it up on boss 😦

[raw zephyr]

Im just gonna report every OL I see exploiting 😄

[oak eagle]

it was rolled and not counciled? thats crazy

[subtle tundra]

im starting to get real tilted

ill keep complaining about loot

in vc

every raid

cause its bs

[devout rock]

maybe its the uptime during adds

[oak tangle]

timing is everything

[dim mural]

You showing this channel on a big screen to the class as part of a social experiment?

[subtle tundra]

so was the mythic ring

[grim jay]

What happened to the m ansurek ring again?

[devout rock]

killed ovi'nax today too and my dmg was really meee

[subtle tundra]

rolled

went to someone who had hc

🙂

[pseudo cosmos]

F

[oak eagle]

no. fucking. shot. that was also rolled, and not counciled, especially on a like, top 30 kill

[spring sigil]

Like for HC Ovi'nax I had the wowhead cleave build. Should i actually even be switching to adds or just hard sticking to boss?

All gets a bit chaotic

[raw zephyr]

rupture for caustic dmg

[oak tangle]

this is my logs vs my raids, 1.5m dps, the adds line up perfectly with a DM kb

[subtle tundra]

yea my biggest fucking problem with the rolling is that people who have it already also roll

[devout rock]

i just crimson tempest and stay on boss

[subtle tundra]

so ill never get any rare loot

[devout rock]

in mythic at least

sometimes just rupture a spider or worm

[spring sigil]

so i should save my first kb / dm until adds appear??

[devout rock]

not sure if its the right plya

[devout rock]

i just send on cd

[spring sigil]

same

[devout rock]

adds doesnt really matter to logs as far as i know

[clever quail]

!wa

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[oak tangle]

i wouldn't, it just lines up nicely maybe hold for a few seconds or so if a pack is spawning soon, but yeah

[spring sigil]

but other than that I shouldn't be switching to adds and rupturing them etc?

i should just be hard sticking boss and keeping spatter up and envenoms etc?

[devout rock]

thats what i do, and all the povs i watched

[oak tangle]

i would deffs send a rupture outside cds to snipe some energy, but i didnt target them for rupture in cd's

[devout rock]

sometimes they rupture worms / spiders but thats it

other than that they just crimson the parasites

[oak eagle]

thats exactly what i do on mythic, and ill rupture the spiders and my main target worm

[inner swift]

you gotta reach 3k for the title this season?

[oak tangle]

make sure you are using clear the wtiness properly etc

[spring sigil]

yeah beeen using that fine

[devout rock]

yup, thats what i did during my kill when i needed energy

my parse kinda sucks

but the boss is deazd tho

[subtle tundra]

who knows, probably way more

id say 3.2k

season is still very early

[inner swift]

hmm

[subtle tundra]

even 3.2k seems low for how early it is rn

esp since there is no more push weeks

so you can always push

[dim mural]

Cutoff is like 3k right now according to raider io

[oak eagle]

i think its goin up to like 3.4

[thin dock]

this!

[oak eagle]

yeah but it wont be 3k the entire season

[dim mural]

No ofc, just answers that 3k won't be enough

[thin dock]

the best change since idk, Legion even, is no affixes and "linear" scaling from 12 onwards. Its so good

[somber geyser]

Do we always Envenom at 5 stacks minimum?

[devout rock]

yo i'm trying to make a sound play when my subterfuge is over after the 6s, what am i doing wrong?

[oak eagle]

at 5+ combo points yes, and then if you have darkest night proc, you have to use at 7

[subtle tundra]

i just wish they stopped making the dungeons be capped by dmg taken and do it by not having enough time

[oak tangle]

would you not just have a trigger for subterfuge, and on hide play sound inthe actions

[grim jay]

Based

That would also solve augs

[grim jay]

[somber geyser]

Okay, sometimes I do 2x mutilate and it's only 4 combo points so I need to do one more.

[devout rock]

thats even better lol

ty

[subtle tundra]

yea aug is not a good dps rn

[grim jay]

Yeah I mean even if it was about its dps, noone would care

Because then it can get replaced

But if its only a game of survivability it always has a serious advantage

[raw zephyr]

!wa

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[raw zephyr]

someone put a TTK wa before in chat and I lost it, anyone has it pls?

[oak eagle]

yeah, youll get unlucky like that sometimes where your mutilates dont crit

[granite zenith]

whats the dps gain/loss playing around saving tea?

[drowsy hatch]

.18% for non optimal use

[royal lantern]

maybe no more dmg/hp up after +12, but instead reduced timer?

[granite zenith]

so nothing then, cool

[drowsy hatch]

yeah

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[subtle tundra]

becoming mdi

i wouldnt know

never tried that

i lied

i tried it once

for like 1hr

[neon lantern]

Guys

someone have a snd wa to give me ? :è

[golden loom]

what do you need a snd wa for?

[pseudo cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-stare-side-eye-side-eye-meme-ginger-cat-gif-9337430562745204577

[neon lantern]

ahahah just to see it

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-confused-say-what-young-gif-20141667

[drowsy hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[neon lantern]

ahahahaha cmooon

[normal mist]

Brother in Christ. We're at a point in life where we DONT need to see it

[inland escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[normal mist]

It's there everytime you press envenom

[golden loom]

and if you by some act of god need to see it... just look at ur buffs

[oak tangle]

all my friends have a thing they yell in chat when they press their cd's, i didn't so i asked my friend to get chatgpt to make one for me........

"UwU, with this mark, your fate is sealed like a cherry blossom drifting on the wind—sweet, fleeting, and oh-so-final!"

is what i got

[willow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-4375529952616887689

[grim jay]

But he wants to see the infinitely ticking duration

[sharp hazel]

Assassination somewhat easy to pick up?

I want to switch off my lock

[normal mist]

Eh

[grim jay]

I would kick you mid key

[normal mist]

It's probably the easiest of the 3 specs in ST

[grim jay]

If you played Demo or destruction probably not

[normal mist]

M+ whoever it's another story

[little tulip]

since barman's shanker has stats and a cantrip is it good?

[grim jay]

It sucks

[drowsy hatch]

no theyre both booty bumcheeks

[little tulip]

aw yeah the 30 sec tick rate seems gimpy

[spark mason]

has assa gotten easier to play since the new patch? I heard s&d isn't needed to be pressed anymore and thistle tea procs itself when low on energy? Any other important qol changes or important buffs? I've been on the edge about playing the spec but not having to deal with a&d is always a plus

[sharp hazel]

I have been playing UH DK and Aff lock, but just dont like them

[grim jay]

Well sin is basically melee afflock

[cyan karma]

trying to make a focus kidney shot macro...

/cast [@focus,exists] Kidney Shot

but it wont work 😦

[sharp hazel]

Got ya, I also want to get the sick t2 remake lol

[spark mason]

you can get all the remakes and never play the class

[pseudo cosmos]

^

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[sharp hazel]

Thanks, I think I might try it out though seems fun

[ebon river]

noob question, what was i taking last patch that was giving me combo point refunds on rupture? i stopped getting it but idk what it was from

[pseudo cosmos]

Also there’s so few warlocks (in my experience) why would you swap @sharp hazel

[drowsy hatch]

serrated bone shard

[kindred hinge]

Pretty easy to get good damage out in both st and m+ without excelling

[ebon river]

thanks

[grim jay]

Since he said he didnt like it

He probably doesnt enjoy them

[spark mason]

is there a plater similar to jundies specifically for rogue? to help track important bleeds and stuff easier? I love jundies but don't like the dubuff tracking for rogue on it

[pseudo cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/swag-nope-doubt-it-doubtful-gif-11156291

[drowsy hatch]

!wa

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[drowsy hatch]

I dont know what jundies are but heres some platers

[kindred hinge]

You can also modify the plater profile easily to track what you want and what not

[normal mist]

Caralho I'm hungry

I need my lunch break

[pseudo cosmos]

LEs is

[novel arrow]

Its a full spark this week right?

Am I high?

[normal mist]

Yes

5th full spark

[spark mason]

Basically just helps with knowing prio mobs and important kicks in M+ and such. I'll check the two listed here

[grim jay]

Imagine having crests to use all the sparks

[granite zenith]

assa or sub for m queen, what u reckon?

[drowsy hatch]

I'm a sub for my queen

[opal plume]

hey guys is there any new build thats good ?

[lone parrot]

based

[drowsy hatch]

Oh you meant class

[granite zenith]

reason?

whats the gain

[lone parrot]

brain feel good chemicals

[drowsy hatch]

im memeing its a sex pun get it sub

haha

good one lily

[oak tangle]

yo chat gpt going hard

"As the assassin leans over their bleeding foe, they whisper with a chilling calmness, their voice barely above a murmur:

"Your struggle ends here, a moment carved in shadow. With each drop of blood, I etch your fate—the deathmark seals your story. You thought you could escape the darkness, but here, in this stillness, I become the whisper of your end.

Feel the weight of your choices, the finality of your mistakes. This mark is not just for me; it’s a reminder to the world that life is fragile, and I am the blade that cuts through it.

As your light dims, remember this: every breath you took was a step toward this very moment. You were simply a thread in my tapestry of fate, woven into the night.

Sleep now, for the darkness craves its due, and I will carry your name into the shadows."

With a swift motion, the assassin completes the deathmark, sealing the enemy’s fate with a final, silent promise."

[pseudo cosmos]

Sass

[shy axle]

"Pooling currently is basically dead, sim logic currently is "maintain envenom buff without wasting uptime" do i understand it correctly that it means you no longer go 5 p env -> wait until last sec of the env buff, send it and you just press everything even if you use all your energy? Or how is it meant

[zinc frost]

Yeah but what’s the gain

[golden loom]

sim it

[pseudo cosmos]

[drowsy hatch]

im simming it rn

[thin plinth]

anyone using these talents? how do they feel ?

[lone parrot]

press everything as fast as humanly possible then complain in 60 seconds that you have no energy

[subtle tundra]

i liked!

[lone parrot]

honestly, without a trace is probs a wasted point

[zinc frost]

I prematurely simmed

[subtle tundra]

if you like WaT, play it
if you dont, dont!

[drowsy hatch]

I simmed all over

[lone parrot]

do whatever the simulations say and disregard your own personal feelings and playstyles

[grim jay]

Bad bcs no sbs

[golden loom]

what if assassination was called Freaky Rogue instead

[pseudo cosmos]

That was fast

[shy axle]

@lone parrot is it sarcasm that i should still pool or just the truth with a joke at the end?

[lone parrot]

its the truth for me

[thin plinth]

is there a way to play with twist the knife and sbs

[drowsy hatch]

New build makes it so its much harder to run out of energy even if you slam

[lone parrot]

but a joke

[shy axle]

okay thank you

[drowsy hatch]

youre still 5cp envenoming and maintaing 2 buffs as much as you can

and always during kb

if youre running low keep 1 up

[grim jay]

Thats the current cook

[digital spindle]

none of the specs I see online have taken TTK

[thin plinth]

i should try it, it should be good cuz you have more single targert and same aoe? right ?

[ornate herald]

is that a single or multi target build

[grim jay]

M+

[golden loom]

have u checked the wowhead guide

[ornate herald]

ty

[drowsy hatch]

the main st wowhead guide takes ttk

[digital spindle]

ah ST, my bad, apologies

[drowsy hatch]

M+ its a maybe

still being cooked

[grim jay]

From what I did so far it definitely has more ST and the aoe seems either the same or even slightly better

Looked that way on Whispyrs screenshots aswell

[shy axle]

@drowsy hatch thank you

[grim jay]

(disregarding variables like other ppls dps)

[drowsy hatch]

yw and ofc be flexible since its a new patch after all

[simple spindle]

u guys tried bleed focus + ttk in m+? thoughts?

[ornate herald]

do u have a good single target build

[subtle tundra]

how do you know all this stuff

omg

Loser tryhard

[ornate herald]

idk if something changed but before patch i was doing 1.7-2mil single and now i am struggling to get above

[drowsy hatch]

im just making it up really

[grim jay]

The one on wowhead

[subtle tundra]

how were you doing that much st

wtf

hacking?

[ornate herald]

maybe learning my rotation?

[subtle tundra]

outlaw bug abuser

[grim jay]

Varas has mythic clear

[ornate herald]

i had outlaw tbh dont like the rng

[grim jay]

Hes not bad

[chilly pecan]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[subtle tundra]

can you clarify what you mean by that

[normal mist]

He's not bad, he's a baddie

[subtle tundra]

cause i want to help?

[grim jay]

Definitely a bad bish

[ornate herald]

before the patch

[subtle tundra]

yes, you did more damage, but in what scenario

[ornate herald]

m+

[subtle tundra]

overall?

[ornate herald]

with cds on a 2 pack pull

[crimson jackal]

wah

[subtle tundra]

ok i cant help this is beyond me srry

[crimson jackal]

2mil with 2 decent packs with cds?

[subtle tundra]

its too much

[pseudo cosmos]

Vara’s just presses buttons and it’s good

[grim jay]

I think varas just meant that thats no valuable data to go with

In any way, shape or form

[dapper halo]

https://www.kohina.com

[little tulip]

i mean fat chain pull looks like 3 million in 620 gear

dk doing like 5 millions

[balmy prism]

https://clips.twitch.tv/MagnificentClearYamJKanStyle-2hjFzA-vECCdWsJK

[dim mural]

The pull is on a rainy, Sunday afternoon. What else you need?

[little tulip]

dropping scary movie bars

[balmy prism]

blizz got bigger issues than dks and mages atm

[thick burrow]

What does fatebound give up to play with subterfuge? Coldblood?

[balmy prism]

petko casually doing 20m

[subtle tundra]

sometimes the effort is too big

i cant

[little tulip]

[grim jay]

If you mean for m+

You can just feelycraft a build

Because its griefing anyways

[spring sigil]

Anyone got any ideas how i go above 1m dps on a queen kill?

[grim jay]

[grim jay]

Deal dmg? Idk

What are you struggling with

Intermission?

[verbal cipher]

!wa

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[grim jay]

End?

[blazing pumice]

save your tea for the big cds

wait nvm

[spring sigil]

Dunno really. P1 is strong, like 1.4m

[pseudo cosmos]

Holy ele sham

wtf was that

[spring sigil]

and then by the time im on platforms, nosedive down to about 980k

[warm vortex]

You still pool in m+ ST without TTK right

[spring sigil]

seems to be a platform problem...

[subtle tundra]

cheating

[pseudo cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

What it looked like

[spring sigil]

dunno if i should be running around rupturing spiders or something lol

or just going straight boss and applying caustic

[grim jay]

Not much you can do there. Just focus the adds and rupture one of the small spiders+caustic for some pad

The platforms are bad for sin

[thick burrow]

Why? Is it grief cuz its fatebound or fatebound without coldbood?

[grim jay]

Bcs fatebound

Its decently worse in m+

[spring sigil]

Yeaaah my highest parse is a 72 on queen

which feels terrible

[raw zephyr]

MA makes lethality useless?

[grim jay]

I personally, since you are talking about heroic ig, just dont use any CDs on the platforms and spatter as much as I can. Cheese some uptime with step and blast in the last Phase again

[grim jay]

No its just for the flexibility of vanish CD usage, you can take 1 leth aswell but its pretty low impact

[raw zephyr]

I like the control of WAT, and I think it does make it kinda useless in a M+ enviorment with double vanish (when running ma)

[final star]

It's makes it better cos it gives crit damage on builders too

[tame valve]

Does the bone spike talent no longer transfer from mob to mob?

[final star]

It blasts

[grim jay]

Well realistically you wont get too much out of the wat regarding face value, since its 1 or 2 casts compared to just using it on CD with 1 charge, but you can safe casts for better timings without losing anything

Thats what kinda makes it a decent option

Imo

[steel ridge]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[hasty crypt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[split herald]

yo guys can someone tell me without trolling pls is outlaw better now than assa in m+?

[tame valve]

Does the bone spike talent no longer transfer from mob to mob?

[tardy terrace]

no

outlaw is just bugged

[grim jay]

If you wanna abuse a bug and get banned, then ye it is until fix

[split herald]

what is the bug?

[hasty crypt]

wth bug outlaw>all classes

[tardy terrace]

go to the outlaw channel

and read pins

[split herald]

okay ty ❤️

[grim jay]

Outlaw channel or wowhead

We dont promote bugs here

We only hope they get banned

[raw zephyr]

and report them 😄

[lone parrot]

spray them bugs

[ebon lava]

is Bubbling Wax good?

[nova aspen]

🐛

[tame valve]

Any have reponse ?

[quartz osprey]

Any gear worth farming from BRD or world bosses?

[pseudo cosmos]

If you don’t want to use an expensive enchant it’s ok

[tame valve]

For bone spikes guys ?

[ebon lava]

okay ty

[little tulip]

not really, if you look at the m+ gear it's mostly crit/haste/mastery gear with not a lot of vers for outlaw***
brd is mostly bootstrapping outlaw stuff

[stuck skiff]

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[tawny geyser]

I can't wait for Whispyr to pop a video on YT ...

[quartz osprey]

Oh I’m playing sin this season

[little tulip]

yeah i hope i get a pair of pants for outlaw in hero track

[drowsy hatch]

I can't find anything that says it ever did this

But it doesn't now for sure

It just gets on em and stays

[pseudo cosmos]

Waiting for the headline subterfuge is back

[pine flame]

!wa

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[thick burrow]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[spring sigil]

I give up parsing, it's making me hate the class xD

[strange python]

Hey I have a question about shiv.. am I wanting to apply it a good bit before I’m popping kingsbane to make sure I get two casts off ?

[tame valve]

mmmh before the patch, the rupture meant that the bone tip was placed on several targets

[drowsy hatch]

That still works with indiscriminate carnage. It's not native to sbs

[drowsy hatch]

If you're running 2 you just want to shiv then you can kb right away

2 shivs is 14 sec and kb is 12 (I think) so fitting in another gcd is hard

[grim jay]

Its a need to

Not even a can

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah I'm in bed so not focusing

Shiv then kb

[grim jay]

I wish I was in bed

Ngl

[drowsy hatch]

It's nice

[strange python]

Ok I must have a talent wrong

Cause I only have 1 shiv charge

Was looking at the wowhead mythic+ guide

[barren forge]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[drowsy hatch]

No that runs 1 shiv

And that's fine

You just shiv at the end of kb

[noble flume]

in m+ u go 1 shiv its ok

[strange python]

So I’ll want to cast first one like 15 seconds before?

[noble flume]

u should go 2 on raid

[drowsy hatch]

No

[noble flume]

u want to cast the last 8 seconds of ur kb

[ebon lava]

am i the only one who got problems with the new automatic thistle tea?

[drowsy hatch]

Shiv is only active for 7 secs

[strange python]

Sorry I’m new 😂

That’s the only bit confusing me is the shiv

[drowsy hatch]

You can use it on CD but you want to use it when kb has 7 secs left

[grim jay]

No, but you all have one thing in common

[drowsy hatch]

You'll have 1 shiv per kb

[strange python]

Ah ok so best thing is to make sure I save it for the last 8 seconds of kingsbane

[noble flume]

yep

[strange python]

Legends thanks a lot been reading up 😅

[drowsy hatch]

Yes if you have one just the end of kb. You should shiv once outside of kb in perfect play but it's more important to have it for kb

If the cool downs aren't lining up y'know

[strange python]

Yep 100%

[normal mist]

I had lunch and I'm not grumpy anymore

Thanks for reading

[quasi coyote]

@drowsy hatch do you sleep?

[drowsy hatch]

I'm going to bed now lol

[spice spire]

Gn

[quasi coyote]

xdddd gngn

[normal mist]

Americans?

[ebon lava]

gn xd

[spice spire]

GM

[normal mist]

Quake I love you

[grim jay]

Imagine going to bed at 2pm

[normal mist]

And you too davyn

[drowsy hatch]

I'm American

[spice spire]

Degen

[grim jay]

Love you too fam

[quasi coyote]

5 am

[dapper zodiac]

america mentioned RAHHHH

[spice spire]

[dapper zodiac]

🦅

[drowsy hatch]

Even worse 6 am

[dim otter]

anyone went drakthyr rogue?

[mighty crown]

just play wow for a living u can just sleep whenever u want

[jade abyss]

When we play subterfuge with garnage we have 12 seconds with multitarget bleed or only 6 from carnage?

[mighty crown]

[quasi coyote]

oh shit

[tulip portal]

Can i just say i hate all the new changes

[normal mist]

Exile is right

[quasi coyote]

suns comin up

[grim jay]

But in freedom land you can freely choose how late it is no?

[normal mist]

You're free to yeah

[grim jay]

Where would be the freedom otherwise

[spice spire]

[drowsy hatch]

I have the freedom to not care about my wellbeing

[wind estuary]

!wa

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[dapper zodiac]

feint off gcd is the best thing everything else wasnt needed

[tulip portal]

Thanks

[spice spire]

Honestly ur so real for that

[tulip portal]

Agreed feint is good. And slice and dice is fine

[grim jay]

But how about on progress?

[tulip portal]

Thistle tea change trash

[grim jay]

You cant sleep even if you wanted to

[jade abyss]

Wait feint is off gcd now?

[mighty crown]

[blazing pumice]

i think you need to look up the definition of all

[tulip portal]

Uber trash

[mighty crown]

sleep is a fake concept on prog

[dapper zodiac]

yeah you can just feint while doing mutilate

[drowsy hatch]

All of the changes SUCK (just thistle tea and it's not a big deal)

[jade abyss]

Holy

[drowsy hatch]

[tulip portal]

Echoing sucks

[spice spire]

Damn tell me how you really feel

[grim jay]

So in reality its just secret meeting time with 40 cans of Monster for everyone

[deep marlin]

Hey, I'd imagine this question has been answered multiple times, so sorry for duplicating but how much of a difference is there between double crit embelishment vs nerubian weapon + wrists ? If I'm correct the nerubian combo is better for long fights, like raid, and crit is better for m+, but is the differance actually significant ? I currently run weapon + wrists, will switching to crit ones actually feel stronger in dungeons ? How much would I loose in raid? Would my parse go down by 1-2% or 10-15%?

[spice spire]

4?

[tulip portal]

Shiv only supercharges first cp for me and that means it counts as 3cp

[spice spire]

More like 40

[tulip portal]

Uber trash

[drowsy hatch]

That isn't even how it works

[grim jay]

Thanks, edited

[drowsy hatch]

It just adds 2 to any finisher

[grim jay]

[spice spire]

It’s not significant at all

[tulip portal]

???

[drowsy hatch]

You don't end on the charge

[tall atlas]

Are we dropping supercharger for now?

[topaz locust]

Does anyone have sims for the new raid btw?

[hollow warren]

Quick question guys, do u use fan of knives in single target when u have a witness proc?

[spice surge]

It doesnt work like that anymore

[grim jay]

The raid is the same

[drowsy hatch]

Jah

[topaz locust]

the anniverary Black rock depths?

[subtle tundra]

its 3 pm

youre sick

[grim jay]

Sims dont change

[drowsy hatch]

Incorrect it is 6 am

[hollow warren]

thank you 🙂

[spice spire]

Eu speaking

Incorrect it’s 7 you’re all in fake time zones

[subtle tundra]

whispyr aaaaah sleeping schedule

[grim jay]

The items are all just like any other heroic gear

[tulip portal]

So how the hell does it work.

[grim jay]

So you gotta sim that for your char

[drowsy hatch]

Lmao I'm worse

[spice surge]

Next finisher is +2

[spice spire]

Idk about that

[topaz locust]

I guess the trinkets are kinda useless then

[tulip portal]

Hmm ok

[grim jay]

Pretty much, same for the effect weapons

[subtle tundra]

i hope people realise ER was made into a non existant talent gameplay wise

and dislike it

[tulip portal]

Does that mean 7+2 or dont use past 5

[drowsy hatch]

I napped at 8 pm til 11 pm then am sleeping at 6 am it's pretty bad

[spice surge]

7+2 yes

or 6+2

or 5+2

etc

[tulip portal]

Okayyyy

That seems good then

[grim jay]

I knew it the second ive seen the change

[subtle tundra]

yea cause you have reading comprehension

maybe

the average player doesnt

[spice spire]

Blud does a 6 am wake up at 11 am until 2 am type beat

[drowsy hatch]

They double trolled it by making it look like an anima charge

[spice spire]

I think during Covid I was the most massive degen

[subtle tundra]

the average player asks why they stop getting CP from their first rupture in aoe

[drowsy hatch]

Hmm damn that's pretty bad too

[subtle tundra]

and cant rupture rupture

[silent skiff]

Hi all, i'm abit uncertain how much an off hand contributes.
I have 90 crest, what would be the biggest upgrade.
Craft a 636 OH instead of, or upgrade wrist?

[subtle tundra]

636

weapon

and you put it in mh

yuppi!

[spice spire]

I went to sleep at 2 am to wake up at 4 am for two years straight but then would like. Sleep 16 hours randomly during the weekend.
So just like don’t do that

[silent skiff]

i alreadu have 636 HM

[novel star]

sim it, offhand kinda sucks

[subtle tundra]

oh well

wrist also sucks

[novel star]

636 wrists most likely better tho

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah tbh I just sleep when I'm tired I don't try to actively harm myself like that yet

[novel star]

but dno

that’s why i started with sim it

[modest nexus]

Why do you ask?

[drifting basin]

Where do i find the talent builds with master assassin / Subterfuge for m+? I only find the other builds on Wowhead

[spice spire]

Yeah that one has multiple factors to it, and was working at the time.
Good for you; degen while you can get some rest big dog

[drowsy hatch]

Pins have the logic on what to take and not

[drifting basin]

i read the pins, but don't really understand what im supposed to drop for master assassin

[novel star]

yea just take hybrid build and then read the pins and change what it says to change

[drifting basin]

i get that its lethality -> subterfuge

[novel star]

read again

it’s in there

[normal mist]

Assuming we can use logic

Smh

[steel geyser]

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[drowsy hatch]

"drop sanguine blades for master assassin"

Hmm

[drifting basin]

isnt that assuming u also play twist the knife?

i thought that was a different build

[spice pewter]

nope

[drowsy hatch]

Tis the same

[rapid talon]

We doing 2 points into sub and one into lethality for M+ or does it really matter?

[drifting basin]

okayge, ty

[drowsy hatch]

It's just varying levels of cook

[frosty bridge]

nice man

its beginning

cant even apply as assa anymore

[novel star]

unlucky

[quasi coyote]

i got an "outlaw only" ur not alone pal

[agile geode]

nice

thanks blizz

[drowsy hatch]

It's pretty up in the air. Seen no lethality 2 sub, cutting recuperator, cutting supercharger. Pick your fav

[gusty mirage]

tell them you're playing sit, when they go "sit?" tell them "sit you fucking rat"

[subtle tundra]

game only playable as ele and outlaw

[frosty bridge]

[agile geode]

yep

[warm vortex]

Hello, for the subterfudge build what do we swap out

[agile geode]

only ele and outlaw

[rapid talon]

thanks amigo

[quasi coyote]

every other spec is literal dogshit now its fucked

[modest nexus]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gusty mirage]

the game's good guys

[subtle tundra]

OXI you DONT even PLAY

SHUT UP

[gusty mirage]

wtf are you talking about KID

I dumpstered 2 people in a +10 dawnbreaker at 608 ilvl yesterday

with a 580 ilvl off hand dagger

[subtle tundra]

can you dumpster me?

[gusty mirage]

yes

[royal lantern]

we did a weekly 10 with a ele shaman

that guy did 800k overall

[subtle tundra]

yupi

[quasi coyote]

oxi is in tft disc he knows whats good

[subtle tundra]

the forbidden trove?

[spice pewter]

offhand dagger is only stat stick

[subtle tundra]

or teamfight tactics

[gusty mirage]

forbidden trove

[normal mist]

Oxi wouldn't know

[gusty mirage]

I don't play league in any form

[subtle tundra]

i might play some keys today!

[fast mural]

What's the best build right now for M+ ?

[gusty mirage]

btw whoever designed that trinke that spawns an eyeball that you have to catch for mastery

is a fucking asshole

[quasi coyote]

poe > outlaw rogue

simple

[drifting basin]

has anyone gotten banned for the rogue-exploit yet?

or reverted kills/keys?

[gusty mirage]

@subtle tundra I'm truly a shitter now

[quasi coyote]

keystone hero nice ur on the way up

[half dawn]

fuck this trinket fam

[little tulip]

yeah good joob

[half dawn]

dont use it on the bridge in NW the ball will spawn under the bridge

[gusty mirage]

there's a fun bug in mists of tierna scithe too

[subtle tundra]

hi me too

[half dawn]

dont use it last boss SOB it spawns in the water

[gusty mirage]

where it just keeps spawning in the maze

just slamming into a wall over and over again

lmfao

[half dawn]

lmfao

[gusty mirage]

GOOD TRINKET

TY BLIZZARD

[half dawn]

i havent seen that one

[quasi coyote]

trinket only usable in specific locations sounds fun tbh

[half dawn]

but kekw

i like that thet rinket can spawn the thing u have to sit in

[little tulip]

monk offspec rolled on hero void reavers warp blade today

[half dawn]

in shit on floor

[quasi coyote]

like well designed and intuitive gameplay i'd say

[arctic venture]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[gusty mirage]

my friends just hear me scream "MY MASTERY" every time that happens

[umbral cypress]

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[tacit otter]

you know what that means...

[half dawn]

just use teh other trinket

the S

whatever its called

[gusty mirage]

the one from grim butthole?

[half dawn]

yeah

[subtle tundra]

yes sweetheart!

[gusty mirage]

ye ideally I get that

[half dawn]

consistency

[quasi coyote]

what was the df trinket called that u had to get the orbs in a triangle ?

[half dawn]

at least

[quasi coyote]

branch?

[half dawn]

branch

[gusty mirage]

ye

[half dawn]

yeah

[gusty mirage]

witherbark's branch

[half dawn]

also shit mechanic

[quasi coyote]

bro fk trinkets like that

[kindred hinge]

Getting boring real quick to be asked by groups to respect outlaw to get into the keys and getting kicked when I say no. Like no, you are not the one risking a ban and fuck that exploit.

[quasi coyote]

so aids

[gusty mirage]

they went "Hey we heard you hated puzzlebox, so here's this old trinket where you have to kite a fucking ball"

[half dawn]

???? tbh normally i get the other on outlaw. I get kicked when they see im not assa

although bug rn is wild

[quasi coyote]

there should not be a literal graphic on the route u need to take for a trinket LOL

[spice spire]

How about you kite My balls bud

[gusty mirage]

I have been for 4 years now chief

stay mad

[spice spire]

Damn

[gusty mirage]

nerd

[spice spire]

You’re right

[half dawn]

rekt.

[spice spire]

What does ur guild have to do with this

[gusty mirage]

THE BOYS MIGHT BE BACK

[kindred hinge]

Small feelcraft question wondering between two build one is +4% DS sim second is +2% DS +2% Patchwerk for high keys ?

Would think second is better due to higher prio

[spice spire]

[kindred hinge]

People got that Outlaw and Elem are busted rn and only want that

[spice spire]

Hope you’re enjoying your time playing homie

[subtle tundra]

play whichever feels better

[half dawn]

yeah ik but its funny when the shoes on teh other foot

[subtle tundra]

like gameplay wise

i might play ds + ttk just so i have more energy in st

cause i never have teas

FUCK YOU BLIZZ

[quasi coyote]

went from assa? to outlaw? real fucking quick

[gusty mirage]

yeah this auto tea shit is cringe

like giga cringe

[quasi coyote]

no respect gviven

[half dawn]

huh?

[kindred hinge]

Won't change much one, first one is SB the other is TTK, I am a spammer anyway so will not see much diff

[jade abyss]

Spoken like a true legend

[quasi coyote]

like ppl dm me asking my spec now if im outlaw

vs a week ago

[half dawn]

oh yeah ikr lmao

just go outlaw

and dont do bug

🙂

they want real outlaw they get it

[patent elk]

they want to abuse some rio while they can

[upbeat needle]

Tea period is cringe ima b honest

[quasi coyote]

double dagger outlaw inc

[jade abyss]

Whats with outlaw now D: ?

[quasi coyote]

they got what they wanted

[half dawn]

@jade abyss https://www.twitch.tv/tundrah_tv

watch this

[gusty mirage]

there's a bug that just adds +5cp to every finisher or some shit

[half dawn]

outlaw abuse live demo

kekw

[gusty mirage]

swapping from trickster to fatebound

[half dawn]

and your rotation is BTE -> dispatch

[gusty mirage]

I'm surprised it hasn't been hotfixed yet

[half dawn]

you press no builders

everything is max cp

[gusty mirage]

they're usually really good at fixing beneficial bugs

[half dawn]

you have perma ADR

perma 6 buff

kekw

[upbeat needle]

Bug is fun

[gusty mirage]

it's the bugs that hurt players that sit around for over a decade

[quasi coyote]

this is just so cooked

[half dawn]

they havent fixed stealth bug on outlaw btw, thats been in game since DF

[quasi coyote]

no shame

[kindred hinge]

Will prolly be hotfixed today, but in the meantime no keys for non abuser

[gusty mirage]

ngl I wouldn't count on that getting fixed anytime soon

[half dawn]

just go in key

but dont do bug

grief it

fuck it

[kindred hinge]

Every single key I have taged in the last hours had an outlaw joining

[drifting basin]

are disc priests also bugged

[gusty mirage]

vs the trickster->fatebound talent swap bug

[drifting basin]

whats going on here

[gusty mirage]

which should be fixed immediately

[half dawn]

their original fix doesnt work anymore because their code must be a mess idfk

[grim jay]

Its not griefing to just not Bug abuse on purpose that will hopefully get you banned

[gusty mirage]

[kindred hinge]

Yeah the pool of people in the key I want to do is small enough that I would rather not be known as a troller. You know there is still 2 months to the season

[jade abyss]

So free score for outlaws?

[quasi coyote]

i mean outlaw is back frankly

[half dawn]

yeah i get you tbh

[gusty mirage]

🍝

[quasi coyote]

would beat that guy np

[kindred hinge]

Was that BRD LFR ? If yes under 70s tuning is cooked and you can one shot the boss if low level enough

[gusty mirage]

that's hilarious

[half dawn]

i thought Ele was nerefd

but it looks unnerfed

🤔

[kindred hinge]

They were doing 3x the aoe damage of anyone, they got nerf to 2 times

[half dawn]

ah ok

fair tbh

respectable change

x2 dmg everyone is fine

you need to outlaw bug jsut to compete with ele i see

seems about right. bug vs bg

bug

[kindred hinge]

You still have skill variance

An average elem will not blast you

[half dawn]

this stream is giving me something

[jade abyss]

ele the same shit?

[kindred hinge]

Bit like Fmage and FDK are. Great one roll over everyone, average are just meh

[steel ridge]

rant: new tea is dogshit.

[kindred hinge]

Pull dependent and coordnation depedent etc etc

[half dawn]

look at the ST:
https://www.twitch.tv/tundrah_tv

ffs i was meant to paste screenshot

x2 ele dam btw

[upbeat needle]

I see nothing wrong

[gusty mirage]

seems fine

[kindred hinge]

Rota is fine

[digital spindle]

so in attempting to keep stack(s) of envenom up, do you just sit there autoing on >= 5 CP until it's time to refresh?

[spice surge]

Turns out when youre exploiting you do a lot of damage, who woulda thought?

[weak hearth]

yup it is, outside of cooldown its just a pain in the ass looking at your energy trying not to use tea for your shiv window

[steel ridge]

gameplay took a large hit with that "rework"

[half dawn]

this is deffo unintentional

[subtle tundra]

it is very intentional

[weak acorn]

Is Rogue a bad spec as a beginning wow player? or good to try out? of so, which spec looks easier in group content?

[half dawn]

Like they are so dumb watching your energy not to go too low and proc this shit is so annoying

[subtle tundra]

and it very much sucks

[kindred hinge]

Macro tea to shiv and you don't have this issue anymore

[steel ridge]

it sucks donkey balls

[subtle tundra]

they intentionally made it fucked

[half dawn]

rogue is very fun

[harsh gust]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[half dawn]

its not bad at all, assa performs very well right now. Outlaw is OK (if you dont use bug) and sub is meh

[kindred hinge]

Sin is pretty easy to pick up

[weak hearth]

yeah i know, problem is using it accidentaly outside of shiv windows.
Just gotta get used to it I suppose

[lusty surge]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[half dawn]

Why not just have an option

Enable auto tea use

Yes | NO

???

too much ig

[weak hearth]

don't say that they'll make a talent

[weak acorn]

don't really care about dps meters 🙂

[weak acorn]

gonna look into it

[tulip folio]

Make it like shaman Earthquake talent

[steel ridge]

they could just delete it altogether

[weak hearth]

nah but i dont want to take a talent just to have my old tea

[half dawn]

outlaw has highest apm playstyle outside of tanks so its the fastest spec in the game, assa is cool if you like that vibe, even sub is cool

[steel ridge]

now its just the worst iteration i could think of

[half dawn]

Worth trying the specs

Literally let us disable auto use

like

[digital spindle]

they could do a glyph i guess

[half dawn]

problem fixed

[weak hearth]

yeah like make an npc with lore regarding tea usage

[vague dragon]

guys when should I use crimson tempest before cds or within cd and how mush CP to use it

[weak hearth]

like hell do a fucking sidequest

[weak acorn]

but for a beginner, whats the most forgiving specc?

to try out first 🙂

[digital spindle]

if you don't care about dps meters, it doesn't really matter for forgiveness i think lol

[half dawn]

Umm hard to say

[storm hedge]

If they made a choice node where tea is rn it wouldn't cost you extra points tho

[weak acorn]

well need to do some dmg in raids and M+ 😉

[grim jay]

Idk, tryan might bite me, but its definitely skill issue

[steel ridge]

surely

[half dawn]

For me, I started rogue on Outlaw, but I played Feral before so assa was also fine

depends on your playstyle experience

[weak hearth]

yeah you're right, but it would kinda feel bad having to take a talent to get something we used to have

[half dawn]

like if u played warrior outlaw will be closer to warrior

than assa

imo

[weak acorn]

If I liked fury warrior in previous exp?

spam glowing stuff

[gusty mirage]

then outlaw will probably be a better experience for you

[half dawn]

Kinad except not really glowing stuff

[digital spindle]

I played rogue years ago and not touched it again until TWW and do "okay" damage as assassination without knowing all the nuances and optimizations you can do (yet)

[half dawn]

and there is some decision making

but there is a lot of spam

[mighty rapids]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[storm hedge]

It's also true that tea is insignificant, even if you just let the tea auto proc you lose like 0.2%

Avg player loses more on uptime

[grim jay]

It literally is, idk what to tell you. You need like 2 braincells to stay above 30 and even if you dont at one point have the attention span, you are losing 0.18%

[weak acorn]

last question, all rogues use stealth right? is there a spec that's using it the least 🤓

[half dawn]

Outlaw is least stealth dependant

Because you have 2x vanishes, and big cooldown reduction so you can get back into vanish fast

[spice surge]

No its sub

[robust slate]

anyone got a weakaura that tracks scent of blood stacks so i can see in middle of my screen i cant seem to find one

[subtle tundra]

is it with first dance?

i think all 3 specs really want restealths now

[spice surge]

Well first dance isnt stealth related, and you would never wait for it