#assassination

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pseudo elm
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dident say that he do. just curious how

drowsy hatch
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what whyspir is really hiding from us though

grim jay
drowsy hatch
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is ocarina is S+++ tier

strange python
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no, he is hiding how far he can count

subtle tundra
ebon prism
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How do u guys DPS first boss of arakara? Swapping to adds across the platform feels so bad because I get 8-10 seconds uptime on them which isn't enough for anything

subtle tundra
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YES

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PLAY COCKARINA

royal lantern
lucid silo
blazing pumice
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then don't swap

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ez

grim jay
drowsy hatch
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Everybody should play ocarina in groups with me

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I just haven't gotten one

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or else I would too

lucid silo
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Ocarina and boomerang

thin dock
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still no idea what to play in m+ now

sharp lily
dull prism
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Hey, new talents have arrived, what build would be good against HC Ulgrax, you guys recommend something?

drowsy hatch
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just stick with the normal build until the chefs are done cooking

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for M+

subtle tundra
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play subterfuge

subtle tundra
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have fun

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experiment

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assa is overtuned

drowsy hatch
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or that I'm not your mom

dapper halo
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varas means thief in finnish

lucid silo
subtle tundra
dull prism
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what guide you talking about ?

rain wraith
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Yeah we’re gonna do good dps in both subterfuge and supercombopoint

ebon prism
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Oh u just don't do the adds? In pugs, I'm worried they don't die but I also do like 300k DPS to them lol

drowsy hatch
limber lion
dapper halo
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hyvä

limber lion
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Thought he was Finnish too but nope

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Romanian pojke

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Or whatever

dim estuary
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why do we take one point in Rushed setup instead of 2 point in supercharger in m+ build ?

dapper halo
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his name just accidentally fits

limber lion
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Yep

grizzled fulcrum
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Would it be besser to go foll st on first boss to get better parses ? 😂

subtle tundra
ebon prism
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Cuz we don't want to be too supercharged. That's dangerous

subtle tundra
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that must've been 8-9 years ago or so...

deft wagon
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How is this patch a buff if we lose a cooldiwn?

limber lion
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Very clever

dapper halo
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its not sick, its very meowdy meowdy

drowsy hatch
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cause ttk is better

subtle tundra
ebon prism
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Elusiveness is used everywhere above 10 keys right? Especially since feint off gcd?

cunning needle
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well your opener looks okay (minus the snd but i assume thats spare combo points)

It's easier to see over a longer fight. you should also pop tea when you press shiv. You also didn't press a 2nd shiv

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show talents as well

charred helm
cunning needle
cunning needle
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🙂

grim jay
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Cheat death in raid

cobalt sphinx
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no cheat death is my main defensive cooldown

cunning needle
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oh that's the M+ build

charred helm
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ah i dont raid

subtle tundra
ebon prism
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Hmmm I think some rogues don't use elusiveness in some dungeons, even at 13+. I forget which

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They rather the cheat death

charred helm
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he asked for keys tho

bold glen
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Howdy boys, need some input.

All I do is high keys

  • Shoulders can kinda be ignored as I can buy myth tracked on AH
  • Chest I have 636 crafted atm

How do we feel about Queen's Mandate for keys?
Currently wearing 626 Ritual knife and Skardyn's

merry bison
dapper halo
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sorbitol, why not aspartame or asesulfam k

cunning needle
grim jay
limber lion
cunning needle
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with master assassin

ebon prism
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Iunno, I was born this way

cunning needle
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acutally maybe not that one

dapper halo
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artificially sweet

cunning needle
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that has no scent

dim estuary
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
fresh kelp
cunning needle
cobalt sphinx
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i need like 1 or 2 more talent points

grim jay
cobalt sphinx
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dtb without amplifying is lit

limber lion
merry bison
cobalt sphinx
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do you run wound poison or some shit

cunning needle
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or a longer fight

limber lion
cunning needle
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do a dummy sim for 2 minutes or 3 minutes

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then do your rotation on that

merry bison
cunning needle
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and see if its the same

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uhhh sure maybe. might not have time to look till tomorrow though

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do the dummy comparison thing first

merry bison
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Easy alright, thanks mate

bold glen
cunning needle
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someone else can probably look th ough

merry bison
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okok

cunning needle
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im pretty monkey as assi as well

dim estuary
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anyone having issues seeing supercharged CP with whyspr WA? I updated it

faint path
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There is so much option to sim jesus

drowsy hatch
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he doesnt track supercharged

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cause its pointless

slow tulip
real granite
cobalt sphinx
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i need like 2 more talent points bros

dim estuary
slow tulip
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no

indigo comet
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
drowsy hatch
slow tulip
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it just adds 2 CP to your next finisher and thats it

drowsy hatch
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you dont factor it in at all

dim estuary
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ah

normal furnace
dim estuary
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so even at 7 cp it will do like 9 ?

drowsy hatch
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yeah

cunning needle
pseudo cosmos
heavy pumice
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Hey everyone, any recommendations on what to take? (m+ only). Troggstitched is BiS, I have wings of shattered sorrow champion track. Boots I have 606 with crit/mastery champion track. Thanks in advance

cunning needle
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yeah theres a lot of shit still in the kitchne

balmy condor
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I'm just playing around

cunning needle
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so come back tomorrow or something

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and find what's fresh on the menu then

bronze pike
balmy condor
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dog what is MA

pseudo cosmos
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Whisper still cooking and adding secret sauce

cunning needle
velvet temple
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might be a stupid question, but what does duplicating two garrotes mean?

jaunty dew
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I hate the new tea change

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with a burning passion

subtle tundra
bronze pike
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Double vanish BearNotLike

spring sigil
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Should i just be taking slice and dice off my bars now btw?

subtle tundra
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🤤

bronze pike
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The key players were right allll along

pseudo cosmos
subtle tundra
pseudo cosmos
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Keep it for nostalgia

subtle tundra
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and MA

dull prism
subtle tundra
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got omega buffed

cobalt sphinx
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i got this strat where i double vanish and just press garrote for 36 seconds straight

cunning needle
west peak
cunning needle
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dunno about raid aoe

west peak
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they count twice for other effects that scale off your amount of dots etc hence the word 'duplicate'

bronze pike
pearl dust
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guys how the fuck is possible last sim i do 1.956M and now i do 1.896M??? its a buff or a nerf? LoL

subtle tundra
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i will spit on you

quartz yarrow
bronze pike
charred helm
bronze pike
cobalt sphinx
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it's just not worded very clearly yeah

velvet temple
slow tulip
subtle tundra
bronze pike
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In brightest day

spring sigil
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What sort of dps are you guys getting on hc queen by boss kill?

bronze pike
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No evil with escape my sight

velvet temple
bronze pike
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Let those who worship evils might

real granite
bronze pike
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Beware my power

willow narwhal
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why can't I select the last talent rofl

bronze pike
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Rogue player one tricks light

subtle tundra
willow narwhal
subtle tundra
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cause you need to put another point in the one above

charred helm
willow narwhal
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fuck thats it

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ty

bronze pike
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Living up to your name there

dapper halo
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im too stupid to play sub

drowsy hatch
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which is why we dont bother with it

bronze pike
cunning needle
main hemlock
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what changed in ST rotation besides that u dont slice and dice anymore?

dull prism
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now i get it, the guides on wowhead are updated

indigo comet
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is it worth to use fan of knives on single or still meh in new patch

drowsy hatch
dapper halo
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i once tried to play sub and it was just pure fecal waterslide

real granite
velvet temple
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so does it just mean that instead of duping a regular garrote, u dupe an imp garrote, which gives more value to the talent?

sullen hollow
main hemlock
drowsy hatch
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you're just slamming envenoms more often

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to get them to overlap

heavy pumice
indigo comet
drowsy hatch
strange python
balmy condor
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dude I go to check my parse and THERES ANOTHER ELE SHAMAN

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IM IN AN ELE SANDWICH

royal lantern
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:3

pastel onyx
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insert sofa picture

strange python
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if u cant beat them, join them?

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HAHAHHA

royal lantern
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sub rogue fr

frosty bridge
grim jay
balmy condor
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invalidate ele sham logs

frosty bridge
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what did they do to ele

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why is ele thanos suddenly

drowsy hatch
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they messed up

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bad

balmy condor
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yeh

frosty bridge
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who is getting paid to balance the game

raw wyvern
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looks electrifying

strange python
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a ele main

balmy condor
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blizzard made an oopsie poopsie

real granite
grim jay
drowsy hatch
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blizzard went hehe we didnt even look at the numbers just go for it

sharp lily
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Maybe my guilds ele shammy will show up on the meters now

balmy condor
strange python
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confirmed; blizzard cannot count

normal mist
drifting cedar
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does anything change rotation-wise now when we have 2 envenoms to overlap?

cobalt sphinx
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Ele can top all bosses except maybe nexus

subtle tundra
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ele can top me

strange python
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woa

drowsy hatch
indigo comet
# real granite i dont understand the question

well
i was on dummy Testing new talents
when i reach around 0:40 on the dummy i start to lose the uptime of both envenoms
is it normal?
what should i do when i have less than 50 energy and have no envenom uptime on me

cobalt sphinx
native seal
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i don't get it, we still press slice and dice right?

latent bluff
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Any wa updated for TTK changes?

grim jay
drifting cedar
subtle tundra
drowsy hatch
drifting cedar
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thanks a lot Lilianana

simple spindle
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is there a good way to track twist the knife "stacks" already?

frosty bridge
drowsy hatch
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whispyr's wa has separate trackers

simple spindle
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yea thats what i mean by that

drowsy hatch
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
grim jay
frosty bridge
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ah, you can just add a text with %s to your weakaura

balmy condor
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lili is good people

drowsy hatch
simple niche
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anyone knows why raibots sims dawnthread lining with only ~500 crit instead of 700?

heavy pumice
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Do you go TTK for m+/aoe too? or is that only ST

balmy condor
modest gale
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any good?

midnight atlas
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anything worthy to farm in brd?

native seal
grim jay
balmy condor
drowsy hatch
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I struggled with rogue since it was my first starting in DF so I like to help with what I've learned now

balmy condor
normal kindle
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@balmy condor YOUR GOT DWITCHED dude

drowsy hatch
zinc frost
balmy condor
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I GOT DWITCHED?

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whats that mean

grim jay
balmy condor
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MY GOT DWITCHED?

heavy pumice
cunning needle
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lmao get dwitched

zealous wolf
grim jay
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Get fuckin dwitched on

balmy condor
subtle tundra
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@balmy condor whats your opinion on tramp stamps?

normal kindle
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@balmy condor those Elemental Shaman got you ...

balmy condor
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but idc bout overall parse

bronze pike
balmy condor
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I just need it to lock in a 100

drowsy hatch
shut garnet
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damn this is still in huh Aware

bronze pike
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I don’t have timewalking tbc mace >:(

subtle tundra
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so i should get one

drowsy hatch
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For now... it's ok

subtle tundra
drowsy hatch
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but if IM mean people are mean to ME

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then I'm sad

cobalt sphinx
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So… shadowrunner stocks are up?

strange python
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stop being weak

crisp walrus
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Pretty sure new supercharged doesn't work with darkest night? Or am I wrong

subtle tundra
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you cant be sad when youre mean to people. i smile so much when i do it

strange python
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be the pettier person ✨

crisp walrus
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Ah that's sad

sullen phoenix
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is super charger works like echo or i can use spender whenever and it will consume?

heavy pumice
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Hey everyone, any recommendations on what to take? (m+ only). Troggstitched is BiS, I have wings of shattered sorrow champion track. Boots I have 606 with crit/mastery champion track. Thanks in advance.

heavy pumice
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😦

crisp walrus
sullen phoenix
spiral escarp
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Hey guys, is there any way to track the supercharger buff? I don't see any buff appearing on my buffs bar after pressing Shiv.

drowsy hatch
kindred nimbus
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supercharger seems like a nerve somehow, got my deathstalker refreshed way quicker before

sullen phoenix
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great ! ty ❤️

drowsy hatch
heavy pumice
half dawn
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This auto tea thing has to be the worst change since making IC passive

balmy condor
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what

azure shoal
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+1

balmy condor
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💀

lethal mortar
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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aint no way y'all give a shit about auto tea

primal quest
spiral escarp
crisp walrus
half dawn
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auto tea below 30 energy

drowsy hatch
half dawn
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its not even choice node

subtle tundra
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theres people who preferred IC as a cd?

half dawn
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it will slurp your shit

subtle tundra
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gah damn

balmy condor
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I'm tempted to delete tea from my weakauras and y'all getting mad about it

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unreal

half dawn
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not mad

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but its stupid

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why remove something that requires brain

lethal mortar
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wait this spec uses cold blood now

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wtf

half dawn
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even if 0.5 iq

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it was still a decision to use tea

spiral escarp
kindred nimbus
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wanna hold tea for shiv, me sadge if its already used automatically before

balmy condor
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because that's the whole point of the 11.0.5 changes

drowsy hatch
west crown
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keep rogue complicated, means less fotm

half dawn
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this

balmy condor
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/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
half dawn
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but rogue is ez mode atm

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except sUB

balmy condor
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yes

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people have bitched about rogue being too hard for like a decade now

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and blizzard said okay

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and made rogue easy

spiral escarp
west crown
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sin is complicated because they just dont know

balmy condor
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and now we're bitching that it's easy

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I mean

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cmon

drowsy hatch
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gotcha gotcha

normal mist
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We never win

half dawn
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tbhhhhh

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they went too far

sudden hollow
half dawn
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with these changes

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IC being a passive is bad enough

normal mist
balmy condor
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macroing tea was a step too far?

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the 0.3% change

kindred nimbus
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how can i flame blinking mages, if rogues are ez now haha

balmy condor
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that's where you cross the line

west crown
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the only thing hard about sin now is uptime when you get mechanics

rotund oak
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from the little ive been cooking on my hunter i think packleader BM before dark ranger is legit but im inclined mostly towards MM because its dmg that cant be healed and its coming out rly fast

drowsy hatch
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removing a button we press once per fight, a button half of rogues didnt like, and auto tea

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that's TOO MUCH

subtle tundra
half dawn
onyx rock
# balmy condor I do

I was very rude about it some weeks ago do you remember ? I called you out on your "anime profile pic"... Sorry about that btw. I was in a bad mood.

half dawn
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its just an unnescessary change imo

balmy condor
half dawn
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not everyone macrod it

balmy condor
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now we have perma energy and it's not worth playing for energy

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doomed

half dawn
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not like assa has so much going on you cant manually press tea

ashen scroll
half dawn
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kekw

sharp lily
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Sin just needs to go back to Mut>Mut>Envenom loop

balmy condor
west crown
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ok but energy management was almost the entire spec skill expression in ST

onyx rock
balmy condor
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it's the internet

agile wedge
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so i was testing on a dummy now for and as i end up very energystarved after like 1:20 i wonder how to best chain envenom. i got we want to send as much as possible but still dont let the buff fall. so is there a rule of thumb how to do it best?

balmy condor
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we argue and move on such is life

strange python
golden loom
west crown
cerulean compass
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Hi, I don't know if it has been posted but, did there is anything from the raid that's good ?

balmy condor
cerulean compass
golden loom
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Ahh okay nice

agile wedge
half dawn
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Is there a bug with mark now btw?

normal furnace
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what do we do during subterfuge window? just norma rotation or something speical?

misty torrent
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We lost Echoing Reprimand? what the fuuuuck

west crown
agile wedge
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just using wowhead st for now

drowsy hatch
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es good st

chilly canopy
agile wedge
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german!

half dawn
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@balmy condor is there a bug with mark dissapearing randomly from target now? Something to do with range?

wooden lily
#

do you put whetstone on both weapons or just main hand

wooden lily
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ty 🙂

marsh canopy
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does anyone sit on a m+ build?

rotund oak
west crown
west peak
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m+ builds make pretty good pillows ye

empty pagoda
normal mist
shrewd tendon
lament warren
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Everyone agrees that the passive tea is omegabad yea?

grim jay
drowsy hatch
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no passive tea is whatever

vale lantern
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i see lord kazzak is on my map is he dropping the neck?

bitter apex
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how much of a dps loss is going dracthyr over orc?

agile geode
#

any new dagger is good in oh?

gleaming cedar
crisp walrus
blissful pumice
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I finaly got skardyn's grace, do I just bind it with deathmark or do I have to use it before to get the entire improved Garrote duration (if i dont have vanish up for example)

grim jay
drowsy hatch
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will be hotfixed quickly (2 months)

misty torrent
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Is there a new rotation and talent build guide out yet?

shadow steppe
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so how can we see the supercharges stacks ?

rotund oak
drowsy hatch
rotund oak
west crown
gleaming cedar
vale lantern
grim jay
dawn condor
grim jay
crisp walrus
rotund oak
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replace it

shadow steppe
grim jay
drowsy hatch
gleaming cedar
flint tusk
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Don’t mind me just getting my copy pasta ready

gleaming cedar
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fax

flint tusk
rotund oak
grim jay
drowsy hatch
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supercharge shouldnt factor into your rotation since it doesnt interact with deathstalkers mark

rotund oak
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take the onuse pvp trinket and upgrade it

shadow steppe
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hmm alright

grim jay
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Watching netflix n all

drowsy hatch
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so itll just be a little bonus when you slam an envenom after shiv, which you will be doing anyways

rotund oak
tranquil berry
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l

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i was gona ask for new talents, then i saw the name XD

drowsy hatch
#

the nickname works

pseudo cosmos
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Pog

tranquil berry
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lmao ye

pseudo cosmos
#

Man can read pog

subtle tundra
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I wanna race change for dps... I'm troll rn

pseudo cosmos
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Trolling on troll

rotund oak
spring sigil
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Do you guys go lethal injection on Rasha?

rotund oak
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join the baby gank

tranquil berry
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ew

spring sigil
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or caustic?

wicked ice
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Isn’t troll decent? I feel like belf gives me nothing

subtle tundra
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well i want for m+ aswell

agile wedge
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what also seems to happen a lot is, that i have no tea charge left for my solo kb due to the 30% auto use. do i just need to care i dont trigger it before solo kb window?

subtle tundra
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where troll is a bit worse

rotund oak
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race doesnt matter,30% discount sucks as well

subtle tundra
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looks wise id go panda or kul tiran

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man how i wish i was a kultiran all the time

drowsy hatch
rotund oak
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Kultiran is the gold making thaumaturgy pov

spring sigil
#

yes

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that one xD

rotund oak
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other than that its cringe

fallow sentinel
warm vortex
cold sparrow
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When talented into Master Assassin, do we Vanish in ST during last 6 seconds of DM?
I vaguely remember we did something like that in df?

warm vortex
#

Mythic tier legs :O

sharp lily
rotund oak
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no real answer

round spire
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any difference on rotation i dont get it i read it

warm vortex
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Im not

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asking about what to take?

drowsy hatch
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Yeah I'm pretty sure caustic works it just depends on how much add damage you can get

warm vortex
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im just showing off my vault

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haha

spring sigil
#

Ill stay caustic then in that case

tranquil berry
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omg, so now i dont have to press snd and not feel guilty about it?

fallow sentinel
rotund oak
subtle oyster
#

Caustic works, but the adds usually just evaporate.

drowsy hatch
sharp lily
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Good thing I only have one

warm vortex
#

But considering i already have a crafted belt and myth shoulders its prolly legs

warm vortex
drowsy hatch
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if adds last more than like 5 secs you can caustic ig

quasi coyote
#

are any brd items worth

strange python
formal shore
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
rotund oak
ashen scroll
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Im nelf but bought race changes in prep for ansurek Sadge gotta be gnome

quasi coyote
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alr thx

rotund oak
subtle tundra
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i think im going ugly ass orc...

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i hate orc....

late tusk
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im orc too and thinking on rework it

warm vortex
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lmao

molten echo
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anyone got importcode for the subterfuge M+ shenanigans?

ashen scroll
warm vortex
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Also have the guides been updated

warm vortex
rotund oak
#

srsly pumps ur psychology

crisp walrus
#

I noticed there is no difference in the spec tree for m+ on wowhead for the patch, I take it we're skipping skip the knife in m+ then?

final star
molten echo
final star
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got the ear rings too

drowsy hatch
tranquil berry
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whispyr is preparing an essay

final star
crisp walrus
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Thanx

subtle tundra
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uhhh i was working in google colab for python, asked a question on chatgpt and then when i started writing in google colab the AI autocompleted with shit from the chatgpt question, as if i asked there

quasi coyote
drowsy hatch
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I'm afraid of the incoming pin

subtle tundra
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why is it looking at my other tabs???

heady anvil
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PINc

worldly sail
worldly bridge
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It looks like top M+ players are playin Ascendance + 1 Dawnthread. Wowhead guide says Dawthread x2. Am i missunderstanding something ?

fickle girder
final star
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ignore anything zerocool does

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thanks

subtle tundra
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dont ignore it, just dont copy it as a gospel

pastel onyx
#

baba yaga cooking too hard sometimes

subtle tundra
#

he experiments, he does things bad, he is a human

drowsy hatch
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dont ignore it just make sure its garbage first. It will be

crisp walrus
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How does rotation change out of cooldowns for ST with twist the knife though? Still just spam envenoms and pool for kingsbane? Try to have two envenom buffs running before CDs?

subtle tundra
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sometimes he does good, sometimes bad

final star
#

cooking with feels

brittle quail
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as a good rule take anything top player do in high keys with a grain of salt

tranquil berry
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ok its not bad to experiment

fickle girder
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bro is trying some shit, das all

crisp walrus
#

I need whispyr to make a video telling me how to play my class. I am not capable of independent thought or research

brittle quail
#

there is a reason they do shit and it might hinder you if you follow blindly

drowsy hatch
#

just slam the hell out of envenom

worldly bridge
#

Im also raiding but im gold-limited lol idk what to do

final star
#

yeah like playing subterfuge when it was 0 dps BatChest

tropic jewel
#

wow rotation isnt up to date is it ?

#

*wowhead

fickle girder
drowsy hatch
subtle tundra
#

i wonder what whispyr is typing

subtle tundra
#

probably m+ related

spice surge
#

Wowhead is updated

royal lantern
final star
#

just open wowhead tbh

balmy condor
#

Day 1? 2? Early Patch Stuff

  • Sims have been updated, Wowhead has been updated, !wa has stuff to track twist the knife (shoutout to @slate crown and her collections under !wa for having a tracker, go use that). Things are updated, please read a guide first please to stop the onslaught of fotm questions we don't wanna copy fdk discord
  • Subterfuge in M+ is looking good (master assassin is large), without a trace not so much but it's either that or lethality so play whatever honestly
  • Master Assassin/Twist the Knife are playable in M+ as well, you would play a regular hybrid build and drop sanguine blades for master assassin, and drop sudden demise for twist the knife. Can also drop scent/bone spike/doomblade, but that's pretty questionable atm. Cleave builds that don't take scent/sbs sim well but probably aren't worth it due to the loss of scent and the opener speed from sbs and the lethal dose stacks from doomblade/sbs in single target
  • With TTK working now in sims; single target we will want to be vanishing for last 6 of KB with master assassin, it's in the 0.3% range but imp gar sucks and twist the knife doubling rapid injection and lethality double dipping kingsbane and master assassin critting all of that is pretty gud
  • Supercharger simply empowers the next finisher after shiv, there is no minigame, no combo point to hit, no gameplay, no reason to track it, no point in finishing on any special number of combo points, no money no job no wife no loving family no dad, your hair is whack, your shoes are whack, supercharger is passive, ignore it and let it do it's thing
  • Fatebound is good, big burst, but the RNG is killer. If you don't wanna deal with it, don't bother. You would also need to vanish the last stack of your cold blood to double edge case (this is old rotation, just as a reminder)
  • Macroing shiv to tea is good, sims play like this basically. Auto-proccing tea is also fine. Sims avoiding tea perfectly is +2k dps (+0.18%). If you want the macro, !tea
  • For fatebound, macro cold blood to kingsbane so that you can match cold blood procs (just /cast cold blood /cast kingsbane is fine)
  • Pooling currently is basically dead, sim logic currently is "maintain envenom buff without wasting uptime"
    BatChesting RAPID FIRE BUGS AND STUFF BatChesting
  • Deathstalker Mark is disappearing for people, unsure why or how but it seems bugs have returned
  • Dracthyr is middle of the pack, on par with like gnome/goblin/nelf/dwarf/kul tiran. Play it if you feel pretty, otherwise whatever
  • The anniversary raid drops nothing of value and it's all equal to regular hero track. You can add the items into top gear using the search to compare
drowsy hatch
#

there it is

tranquil berry
#

haha

crisp walrus
#

Boom

tranquil berry
#

"Macroing shiv to tea is good"

#

noice

final star
tranquil berry
#

feels weird thou

final star
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

  • Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
  • Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
  • Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
  • While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
  • You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
final star
balmy condor
#

oh

#

sorry

#

!update

prisma monolithBOT
#

Updated.

balmy condor
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

  • Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
  • Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
  • Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
  • While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
  • You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
balmy condor
#

what

final star
trail tree
balmy condor
#

okay we just delete that

drowsy hatch
#

the restealth hate has infiltrated the auto tea hate

balmy condor
#

idc

#

!update

prisma monolithBOT
#

Updated.

balmy condor
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Stealth can break from:

  • Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
  • Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
  • Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
  • Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
  • Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
  • Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)
cerulean walrus
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Stealth can break from:

  • Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
  • Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
  • Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
  • Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
  • Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
  • Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)
balmy condor
#

WHAT

normal mist
#

LOL

final star
#

HAHAHAHAH

cerulean walrus
#

LMAOOOO

raven merlin
#

kekw

royal lantern
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Stealth can break from:

  • Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
  • Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
  • Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
  • Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
  • Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
  • Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)
stark umbra
#

interesting

normal mist
#

Stealth - tea

ashen scroll
balmy condor
#

I'm stunlocked

#

what the fuck is it doing

stark umbra
#

thats why auto tea is bad 🙂

normal mist
#

Make a !shug

worldly sail
#

sTEAlth

midnight atlas
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Stealth can break from:

  • Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
  • Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
  • Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
  • Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
  • Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
  • Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)
worldly sail
midnight atlas
#

why the heck is tea returning stealth breaks?

balmy condor
#

!update

prisma monolithBOT
#

Updated.

balmy condor
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
Uses a cast sequence to avoid double casting tea if you mash the button:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
balmy condor
#

jesus

worldly sail
balmy condor
#

I think the bot command reads regex or something

drowsy hatch
#

We're so back

cerulean walrus
balmy condor
#

and sees "tea" inside of "sTEAlth"

#

but idk why the fuck it would do that

midnight atlas
#

i jut got rid of 3 binds, i can play on controller now

sturdy path
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
Uses a cast sequence to avoid double casting tea if you mash the button:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
crisp walrus
#

Lets gooo

bronze pike
#

!teabag

past marten
#

Maybe I missed the train

lucid silo
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
#

aight 3am bed time no one ping me with anything or do anything I want to just wake up tomorrow and record a video and the channel is very calm and collected and we are tranquility itself and happy things

cerulean walrus
#

So Whispyr…. What you’re saying is the tea shiv macroers we’re on to something this whole time

bronze pike
#

@balmy condor

cerulean walrus
#

They were just ahead of their time

subtle tundra
#

good night babe

#

eep tight!

bronze pike
#

Will u tug me in?

fading hearth
#

i don't like the supercharged combo point rework

bronze pike
#

This is a assassin question

tacit otter
#

anyone knows if the subterfuge m+ build is also updated on wowhead?

subtle tundra
fast mural
#

Hello , Good morning. Is it worth to swap some gear to Vers-Mast?

bronze pike
stoic knoll
ashen scroll
stoic knoll
#

just woke up and didnt read anything:D

normal mist
#

Then read pins

subtle tundra
#

he means for MA m+ probably

drowsy hatch
crisp walrus
subtle tundra
#

which is a valid question

fast mural
#

i see Zero cool recraft

drowsy hatch
#

but old one works good

kindred hinge
#

What did my smooth brain do that MA is not cooking ? DB 12 Vanished mid death mark , not much difference crit wise than yesterday without MA

subtle tundra
#

I WILL CUT MY FORESKIN PUBLICLY

final star
zealous wolf
#

anyone got a subterfuge build import string?

mortal badger
#

ban zerocool

fast mural
#

Someone save me

normal mist
fast mural
#

It is not worth right?

subtle tundra
#

every single stupid question i see starts from someone watching his stream

stoic knoll
subtle tundra
spice surge
#

Recraft what

subtle tundra
#

yes probably crit is devalued

#

will it matter to you?

#

fuck no

#

dont recraft shit

final star
#

going vers mastery on everything

summer viper
final star
#

0 crit inc

balmy condor
#

going haste for the single target

subtle tundra
#

i swear to god

tropic jewel
#

So my question ist reagrding ST. Since we are not playing VV, wouldnt be the opener to just Ambush - Garrote - Clear the Witness into Rupture ?

grizzled geyser
#

Can anybody help me understand the shiv+tea macro for m+? I often times feel like these stickied posts just assume a single target raid spec, but I might be wrong. But wouldnt it suck to tea every 30secs in m+, where only every 2nd shiv is actually with cooldowns like DM or KB?

cerulean walrus
fickle girder
#

guy recrafts 2 items and everyone goes toxic mode lmao

subtle tundra
#

so i can not have this

#

it has never been this bad

final star
#

just press buttons

formal scarab
#

Quick question lads. While supercharger is active, and I have 6/7 CP, when I finish with Envenom - it does not trigger Darkest Night -> Deathmark. Like some time ago with Echoing Rep. Is that a bug or I don't understand how it works?

balmy condor
final star
#

smoking on that assa pack

drowsy hatch
final star
cerulean walrus
normal mist
#

I'll count how many times I say PINS today

subtle tundra
#

i wonder if its the same for other discord
is petko scratching his nuts during storm ele? should i??????????????????

cerulean walrus
normal mist
#

You should

ashen scroll
#

nobody plays that class

cerulean walrus
#

You might die

ashen scroll
#

im sure petko is fine

spice surge
balmy condor
bronze pike
ashen scroll
royal lantern
drowsy hatch
#

fotm gooners will roll ele then it gets hotfixed nerfed in 3 days

spice surge
#

And then theyll be upset when theyll be nerfed and cant do 3m overall next week

lofty nymph
#

Barman Shaker good? for offhand?

bronze pike
spice surge
#

This chat is gonna have an absolute mental breakdown come the weekend when they announce nerfs

ashen scroll
#

the nice -35% aura nerf enhance got in SL. shamans cant have nice things

drowsy hatch
#

barman shanker no good

bronze pike
#

How will I sleep without a warm milk

spring stream
#

!wa

bronze pike
#

And my goodnight kiss

prisma monolithBOT
grizzled geyser
#

Can anybody help me understand the shiv+tea macro for m+? Wouldnt it suck to tea every 30secs in m+, where only every 2nd shiv is actually with cooldowns like DM or KB and you just run out of tea after like 2 minutes?

balmy condor
bronze pike
subtle tundra
bronze pike
#

Shut the channel down

ashen scroll
formal scarab
summer viper
subtle tundra
hearty reef
#

Nerf sin

drowsy hatch
grizzled geyser
jagged elk
#

!tea

hearty reef
#

Nerf rog

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
Uses a cast sequence to avoid double casting tea if you mash the button:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
naive sage
#

/wa

summer viper
dark merlin
#

Got this, is this bis wep for season?

naive sage
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
hearty reef
#

I cant stand warrior gets to crybaby more than yellow ninja

final star
balmy condor
#

This just helps you do it for free

drowsy hatch
grizzled geyser
#

but doesnt it suck to not have tea for every KB then? Im willing to learn here so just asking to understand

normal mist
balmy condor
#

You’ll still get 1 charge

balmy condor
#

It’s 1 min cd

grizzled geyser
balmy condor
#

Explain to me how that works

#

You open right

drowsy hatch
#

maths not mathing

limber lion
#

Lol

balmy condor
#

You use a tea charge

#

You kingsbane

hearty reef
#

How do we see a 5% aura nerf?

balmy condor
#

They’re both on 1 min cd

chilly mist
#

I was told that auto-tea can proc at 60 energy, is that true?

balmy condor
#

1 min later

subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

You kingsbane, you shiv

hushed blade
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
Uses a cast sequence to avoid double casting tea if you mash the button:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
summer viper
balmy condor
#

It uses tea

balmy condor
#

You open right

drowsy hatch
balmy condor
#

Kingsbane and shiv

#

And it uses a tea

kindred hinge
grim jay
drowsy hatch
#

since kingsbane and tea charge comes up at the same time

limber lion
#

Bro whay is going on xddd

balmy condor
#

And then right

#

1 min later

grim jay
balmy condor
#

The cooldown is up

#

And you get a charge

drowsy hatch
#

tea doesnt go on a -30s cd when you use your 4th shiv

balmy condor
#

So you kingsbane and shiv

#

And it uses a tea

drowsy hatch
#

it just doesnt happen

balmy condor
#

Right

limber lion
#

One guy says dumb dumb and then another tries to defend him

balmy condor
#

And then hear me out

hearty reef
subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

1 min later

limber lion
#

Double the dumb

normal mist
#

We broke him

tawny geyser
#

Thoughts on some of the Timewarped stuff?
Atleast until exchanged for Mythic pieces.

balmy condor
#

You get kb

sacred parcel
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
#

And shiv

#

And it uses a tea

hushed blade
#

you kingsbanne and shiv

hushed blade
#

oh god

balmy condor
#

So they’re both on a 1 min cd

hushed blade
#

iwanna cry

balmy condor
#

So then

normal mist
#

Oh no

balmy condor
#

You wait a minute

normal mist
#

He keeps going

balmy condor
#

And they come back up

#

And you kingsbane

grim jay
balmy condor
#

And shiv

cerulean walrus
#

!whispyr

dawn condor
#

It never stops

balmy condor
#

And the 1 min tea comes back

limber lion
#

That's crazy

balmy condor
#

So you use the tea

subtle tundra
#

whispyr you should start smoking

limber lion
#

It's like they both have the same cooldown

final star
#

we need slow mode for whispyr

balmy condor
#

And then they’re both on a 1 min cd

limber lion
#

Nuts

hearty reef
ashen scroll
#

whispyr rn

subtle tundra
#

go to fucking SLEEP

balmy condor
#

So then right

cerulean walrus
#

@balmy condor GO TO BED

summer viper
#

what is this mental breakdown here tonight

balmy condor
#

1 min later

cerulean walrus
#

BED

#

BED

balmy condor
#

You kingsbane

subtle tundra
#

GO TO BED

cerulean walrus
#

BED

balmy condor
#

And then you shiv

normal mist
#

BED

cerulean walrus
#

BED

#

BED

normal mist
#

BED

balmy condor
#

And it uses a tea

mortal badger
#

BED

final star
#

BED

cerulean walrus
#

BED

#

BED

normal mist
#

BED

balmy condor
#

And they’re both on a 1 min cd

cerulean walrus
#

BED

peak pelican
#

AAAAAA

cerulean walrus
#

BED

normal mist
#

BED

hearty reef
#

@balmy condor is haste better than crit now?

grizzled geyser
#

lmfao

cerulean walrus
#

BED

limber lion
#

Welp

balmy condor
#

And then it uses the tea cause it came up

#

So then 1 min later

#

You kingsbane

grim vigil
#

faint off the gcd feels soo good omg

cerulean walrus
#

BED

balmy condor
#

And you shiv

normal mist
#

Reminds me of Stanley parable

limber lion
#

It's an infinite loop

balmy condor
#

And it uses the tea that came up

dawn condor
#

Whispyr.exe stopped working

subtle tundra
limber lion
#

Can't stop him, won't stop him

hot fulcrum
#

2nd pin says use nightly "until further notice".
1st pin says sims were updated.
Does it mean we can use weekly/latest already?

cerulean maple
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
thorn crater
#

@balmy condor hey i m not sure if i read the pin correctly, only lisonna's WA tracks TTK currently? so we can go take that WA and add it to yours for example? (thanks lisonna!)

bronze pike
#

Wait 30 seconds

ashen scroll
#

i simmed latest earlier today and it seemed fine. 1.408m st

bronze pike
#

You wake of ashes

#

Wait 30 seconds you wake of ashes

limber lion
#

Never ever use weekly though

balmy condor
limber lion
#

Weekly is inting

balmy condor
#

Idk when it came back

#

Did it come back

final star
#

it was back this morning when I checked

drowsy hatch
balmy condor
#

Do I delete pin

final star
#

so 4hrs ago

balmy condor
#

Banger

final star
#

ye

balmy condor
#

Deleting pin

cerulean walrus
#

Delete pin

bronze pike
cerulean walrus
#

And then

final star
#

BED

cerulean maple
#

so how are we all feeling abt the changes? good bad meh? boring? fun?

pearl dust
#

d

ashen scroll
#

ya i simmed as servers came up and it said my char was doing a solid 350k LOL. i think i re-simmed at 10pm pst and it worked

drowsy hatch
grim jay
limber lion
#

Very cool

bronze pike
restive spire
#

Wasn’t gonna drink tonight but I miss echoing like a mf

hearty reef
#

@balmy condor is going to bed better than crit now?

drowsy hatch
#

do you have a WA to track wake of ashes

balmy condor
#

So you kingsbane

#

And then shiv

balmy condor
#

And it uses the tea

cerulean walrus
drowsy hatch
#

then wake of ashes comes up right

limber lion
#

Lalala

drowsy hatch
#

so you wake of ashes

cerulean maple
#

er was so fun

bronze pike
#

After your second wake of ashes

drowsy hatch
#

that's rad.

bronze pike
#

Now bare with me

#

It gets crazy

cerulean walrus
#

Whispyr if you don’t go to bed I swear brother

bronze pike
#

You press divine toll

limber lion
#

I don't even remember who was the first guy who caused the response

cerulean walrus
#

I’ll kiss you

spice surge
#

Hey whispyr on the bright side, recuperator works now

bronze pike
drowsy hatch
#

there is 0 chance he is in this discord anymore

cerulean walrus
#

And you don’t want that

grim jay
hot fulcrum
cerulean walrus
#

I’m from Ohio

balmy condor
#

Anyone banging the new rose+Bruno mars 4 hours on loop

ashen scroll
subtle tundra
#

bang the bed

#

please

drowsy hatch
cerulean walrus
final dawn
#

!wa

cerulean walrus
#

Holy huge if true

prisma monolithBOT
cerulean walrus
#

Shit took 2 years to get fixed

balmy condor
cerulean walrus
final star
hearty reef
#

Anyone banging bruno mars rn?

charred helm
final star
#

THE SCRIPTURES

#

THEY SAID IT COULDN'T BE DONE

limber lion
grim jay
final star
#

for 5 YEARS RECUPERATOR HAS BEEN BROKEN

cerulean walrus
#

Yeah sorry 5

#

I forgor

drowsy hatch
#

I do want to dwitch Whispyr

cerulean walrus
#

Shits been broken since SL