assassination

[split python]

xD

[broken moth]

!fuu

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[split python]

why should it change?

[icy acorn]

how it feels not having to press snd anymore:

https://tenor.com/view/con-air-nic-cage-windy-gif-12695939

[opaque sigil]

What’s the info you are getting by having two bars moving independently? All you need to know basically is your active uptime on double overlap, isn’t it?

[cerulean nest]

anyone have a fix for this lol

[vital dew]

honestly im in heaven with that change alone lol

[stray adder]

we just got full custody of our gcds

its great

[wooden flare]

changed my mog to a weapon that sheathes on my back

[grim jay]

But to get that info you need to see the duration of the older application

[nimble vector]

Should just track it like ironfur and have a single bar with 2 markers

[grim jay]

And only having one bar for that is kinda eww

[blazing pumice]

just replace the spellid on an ironfur wa

big brain

[grim jay]

But at the end of the day its just a subjective thing and many people like the 2 bars

If you dont you can just make one with one bar or whatever

[orchid spear]

is "Emergency Stop" Keychain good?

[high walrus]

does the way we use shiv change now?

[opaque sigil]

that’s nice

[echo cargo]

we don't have to press snd anymore, however they now force us to use thistle tea at inappropriate times

[fading mason]

has anypne/ is there a way to sim the items from the new raid

[icy acorn]

i think ignoring it is 0,2%

[slim tundra]

yes

[fallen arch]

Yes

[icy acorn]

so its kinda w/e

[grim jay]

Worse than raid neck, so depends

[slim tundra]

i assume not still in line with tea and burst window

[echo cargo]

I live for the 0.2% 😵‍💫

[mossy nest]

i for one will miss pressing echoing reprimand

[solid venture]

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[chilly mist]

same

[grim jay]

How so? They dont force you to use anything

[mossy nest]

used it since shadowland S1 as i was kyrian bac then

felt good to press it

[peak lake]

Another dagger in vault 😦
I'll be strong, i wont take it. Cleaning 6MM every week and still 0 daggers from the raid when im the only holder 😦

[vital dew]

Silly question, Could a Shiv/Tea macro work so you get as much up time on that burst as possible?

[orchid spear]

Thanks for answers all, maxroll says it's bis, sims are saying:

[slim tundra]

not worth

[peak lake]

I'm sure it will drop x7 if i take it in vault

[grim jay]

Maxroll sucks

[vital dew]

i mean keeping an actual bind for normal tea as needed but thanks for the heads up o7

[stray adder]

yeah tbh I love maxroll for arpgs but it's not there yet when it comes to WoW

[balmy condor]

you gotta know the pandemic of the lower stack

[grim jay]

Yeah so you just dont drop below 30 and use it yourself? I dont get the issue

[slim tundra]

theres time where u use one not the other and vice vera its better tooo just keep em seperate

[dapper halo]

if anyone comes up with a envenom bar that doesnt have two different bars, hit me up, i need a new solution

[echo cargo]

same

[bitter saddle]

We still Deathstalker right? No coin flipping

[vital dew]

Deathstaöker

[stray adder]

Whispyr WA looks like a whole equalizer

[soft shale]

so you want a burger with double filling that gets empty better than 2 bars

[balmy condor]

hero track starts at 7?

[alpine nebula]

guys it's crazy how good I got in the past week

[grim jay]

Yes

[balmy condor]

banger

[alpine nebula]

finally hitting my stride in 11.0.5 😄

[zealous wolf]

Supercharger cant consume darkest night? or am i just not understaning how supercharger works xd

[cobalt relic]

Brood prog was wild tonight. Sin feasting.

[subtle tundra]

bis LOL

[balmy condor]

it can not

[grim jay]

Time for a grim butthole 7?

[balmy condor]

if they accept me

[zealous wolf]

i cry

[balmy condor]

(they are leaving me on read)

[stray adder]

tbh i miss ER

[bronze pike]

if i get a grim butthole 7

ill do it wit hu

[zealous wolf]

ER when you get lucky hit so good

[grim jay]

Idk who wouldnt accept the
Chicken Leg Thief

[zealous wolf]

and then sometimes you cant hit the points and its the most horrible thing ever

btw what to do with 2 extra keybinds now ffs

[brazen sentinel]

how bad is the automatic tea use

[glass junco]

hey, is arakara not simming properly or is it actually bad in AoE and m+?

[grim jay]

-0.2%

[stray adder]

is it normal to feel like you munch CPs without ER when you wanna consume a DN proc

[real granite]

bind /focus macro

[zealous wolf]

i simmed today and it sims good for everything

[limber elk]

Focus shadowstep /mouseover shadowstep huge

[grim jay]

I will probably get my blind to a more comfy bind for snd and for ER I just might bind shiv a 2nd time

[knotty canopy]

Any idea how i can adjust the Plater Skripts to show the marked target in a diff colour than the ruptured ones? I tried with priority but then the colours of the marked target perma change

[solar wyvern]

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[zealous wolf]

bro idk if this is a rogue thing or am i just stupid but shadowstep kills me like half of the time

[glass junco]

blood mallet says its terrible and i tried simming it and it sims really bad idk

[fallen arch]

Anyone know if/how luxthos changed the envenom tracker for ttk?

[grim jay]

Stupid

[unborn quarry]

Raid council talent build, is that for heavey AOE fights ?

[grim jay]

#nooffense

[stray adder]

how?

[quartz osprey]

Blizz should just make thistle tea a choice node, with one option not having the auto consume

[vital dew]

wait a minute. Bone spike and cleaving ruptures.. do the secondary targets also get a spike?

[grim jay]

Its simming as it should

[echo cargo]

agreed

[zealous wolf]

latest is shadostepping on queen, on first platform after intermission

you just fall off xd

[primal quest]

shadowstep is your best friend

[real granite]

all the targets gets a spike, aslong as you have stacks

[nimble vector]

You need to be on the platform when you step

[grim jay]

Idk, I think using 2 braincells to not drop below 30 energy is rather low effort if you want the 0.2%

[vital dew]

jfc thats awesome

[zealous wolf]

i mean on the add that jumps to the edge

[stray adder]

yeah Queen got the dawnbreaker boat treatment

[nimble vector]

If you are off the platform you are line of sight

[dark merlin]

where do we find the new m+ build?

[zealous wolf]

he is so close to the edge sometimes that you just fall off

ateast in my exp

[grim jay]

Just shadowstep someone else then?

[nimble vector]

In that case he needs to be aiming straight down the middle or he clips you with his beam from behind

But also it sounds like maybe you are just moving after stepping

[real granite]

yeah, it happened to me sometimes, just stop shtepping mobs on the edge xD

[zealous wolf]

eh

hybrid still best?

m+

[grim jay]

Yes

[zealous wolf]

solid

[buoyant venture]

is sacbrood myth better than 626 crystal?

[grim jay]

If the sims tell you it is

[buoyant venture]

i'm going to sim rn, i just don't see many playing it, i already have GB trinket on myth

[balmy prism]

depends on content too

[worldly nebula]

Any wclogs nerd that can tell me how i can filter for overlapped envenom uptime? There must be some sort of expression for envenom stacks = 2, right?

[desert otter]

I see master assassin being picked in some ST builds, i suppose we vanish during deathmark/kb now?

[grim jay]

How many people do you think have specific vault only trinkets

[balmy prism]

you did earlier too to reapply imp garr

[grim jay]

[waxen oyster]

me here with my 619s

[real granite]

idk man, i feel really bad macroing tea to shiv... do yall swear to me it is optimal? pinky promise?

[balmy prism]

pinky

[desert otter]

@balmy prism thanks, for some reason I was applying imp garr right before casting deathmark. Now I suppose I have to do the vanish after casting so I get 100% uptime on the crit window

[grave trail]

is dragon rogue gud?

[solid venture]

so we are just pressing ambush > mut > env after vanishing for MA?

[summer sequoia]

is there any gear that is worth doing blackrock depths on HC?

[acoustic sky]

guys guys, is latest sim option is still in shambles ?

[grim jay]

You vanish to reapply imp gar inside pandemic in the opener and after that you can either delay DM for vanish if you dont lose a cast to reapply imp gar before you DM, or you just dont care and just use both on CD without losing too much

[balmy prism]

ye what davyn said

[grim jay]

You dont ambush

[worthy scarab]

Is caustic splatter just broken atm? I can't proc it at all

[zealous wolf]

sacc still goated

[balmy prism]

Like rash mythic you get nice timing with vanish being up for 3rd spot

[grim jay]

Do you have weapon poisons applied?

[worthy scarab]

Yeah, and rupture and deadly are up. Mutilate doesn't proc CS

[waxen oyster]

guy links a 639 sac

"sac still goated"

[zealous wolf]

someone said it sucked

[grim jay]

Weird

[zealous wolf]

so i got scared

😦

[sharp lily]

Are you talented into it

[balmy prism]

imagine not having a 639 sac

[winged sun]

imagine not having 639 skardyn

[feral silo]

xD

[winged sun]

[grim jay]

Well yeah it all just depends on gear

[worthy surge]

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[waxen oyster]

i mean all the passives are comparable

[worthy scarab]

Ah, I had a loadout selected but not applied. I'm dumb.

[balmy prism]

imagine not having both, couldn't be me

[zealous wolf]

why does your pic look like the gigachad guy also

[balmy prism]

he plays shadow priest so take what you want from that

[tropic falcon]

u guys have a new m+ build? are we playing subterfuge now?

[winged sun]

Egg is shit, dawnbreaker is better, m+ is king

[waxen oyster]

if ritual knife was obtainable at 639

it'd be bis

[grizzled geyser]

this has to be bad for m+ where you shiv every 30 secs and dont hold stacks for kb right? if you tea every 30 secs you wont have tea with every set of cooldowns or what am I missing

[grim jay]

Pins or guide

[waxen oyster]

anyone else still using 619 trinkets

because its better to use gildeds on myth track gear

[winged sun]

Delves shadow trinket ye

[winged sun]

Its better than 626 egg and dawnbreaker

[polar jasper]

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[grim jay]

Dont think its optimal, but atleast you dont lose too much for ST

[waxen oyster]

ye knife is giga

[grim jay]

Difference aint big tho

[waxen oyster]

if you dont proc it during cds

[real granite]

yeah thats what i think, whyspyr still says its whatever in aoe... :/

[waxen oyster]

my warr got a hero knife

[real granite]

sorry, not whyspyr, OPEN WOWHEAD*

[waxen oyster]

from being rando attacked by zekvir

[grim jay]

Yeah because you can freely use tea charges for aoe amps

[waxen oyster]

for a map

[grim jay]

As mastery is pretty good for aoe

[grim jay]

I had it in the vault

Myth track hands were the other option

So I took the knife

[strange python]

What do we play now as assa talent wise in m+ double vanish?

[waxen oyster]

i didnt delve on my rogue

[bitter saddle]

No

[high walrus]

anyone else have seemingly really high input law since tww launch? me and 2 friends are all having the same problem and we're all playing with less than 20 ping, same thing with all addons turned off too. and blizzard support as useless as ever

[bitter saddle]

Double vanish is a trap

[real granite]

well, thats the opposite of what OPEN WOWHEAD said

[low junco]

Yes

[balmy prism]

yes, only in raids tho

[grim jay]

It was literally when it was the best vault slot option

[grim jay]

Maybe we watched different Videos

[low junco]

I fixed it with advanced interface options, just bumped a bit the lag tolerance

[nimble vector]

Did you check your spell queue window didn’t reset or something

[high walrus]

I used to only have it in raids but I'm currently hitting dornogal dummies and it literally feels like I have 2sec delay when clicking anything

[strange python]

How come seems very flexible in m+ for when chaining or when pack extends and you need aoe silence?

[high walrus]

says it's still 200

[real granite]

was yours uploaded to po*nhub? mine was

[grim jay]

What does tea have to do with silencing on aoe

[high walrus]

and sometimes it's just completely fine

but randomly it's just unplayable

[waxen oyster]

ngl

[real granite]

what? what have that to do with tea?

[waxen oyster]

if your tank is doing bad chains

[grim jay]

Mine was on OnlyFeet

[strange python]

Double vanish mate instead of echoing reprimant?

[frosty bridge]

think he replied to the wrong thing

[waxen oyster]

key is to just be passive aggressive in chat

[grim jay]

Its bad

[waxen oyster]

until he stops

[void gazelle]

Is any bleed dagger or trinkets from Blackrock Depth worth to use?

[strange python]

I replied to wrong guy

mb

[grim jay]

No

[dusk ivy]

!sheet

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[hallow sonnet]

You might want to profile your WA's to see if there's a lot of frame time spent in one of those.
Especially if you have WA's that runs custom code often to check for conditions

[strange python]

Do we still play echoing reprimand or we go subterfuge + double vanish was my initial question

[zealous wolf]

double vanish is trash

maybe not for very high keys

[grim jay]

There are builds pinned and the guide is updated, double vanish sucks still tho

[tropic falcon]

so we play 1 point in supercharger for m+ ye? im confused bcs whispyr said earlier subterfuge is insane?

[grim jay]

Even then

[royal lantern]

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[zealous wolf]

whispyr having nightmares

[grim jay]

Its like very specific weird pulls where it might be decent, but overall still bad for the rest of the key then

[real granite]

he cant have nightmares, he does not sleep

[drowsy hatch]

whispyr is in a certain mental state right now

[grim jay]

Think he is doing grim butthole 7

[tropic falcon]

poor guy

[zealous wolf]

someone needs to ask about the stiletto

[grim jay]

!voteban donsitunko

[manic coral]

already did

but discord is overflown with messages about people not being able to read about echoing reprimand

[delicate egret]

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[slow tulip]

can we just make the envenom weakaura to track the lowest envenom buff duration and its pandemic, double envenom WA seems like an overkill

[grim jay]

Couldve just left out the "about echoing reprimand"

[real granite]

what up with echoing reprimand? did they change it?

[grim jay]

Just do your own

[forest mountain]

has the m+ hybrid build not changed on wowhead

[grim jay]

Its perfectly good as it is

[manic coral]

but lowkey it must have gotten secret buffed or something

[forest mountain]

doesnt seem to take ttk

[grim jay]

Yeah bcs its not worth

[manic coral]

like it was something weird

[drowsy hatch]

correct it does not currently take ttk

[regal cloud]

Yo sorry if this was talked about before but is there any possiblity to not have the tea passiv auto proc ?

[drowsy hatch]

no

[regal cloud]

this is annoying af x)

[grim jay]

Not drop below 30 energy

[manic coral]

i simmed crafted gear and stiletto popped up randomyl even tho i have 2 embellishments equipped

[grim jay]

Requires like 2 active braincells

[viral spire]

Any notable loot we need from BRD?

[fiery eagle]

help,i have 1 extra talent point

ahh yes,there it goes

[zealous wolf]

xd

[grizzled geyser]

would you guys take a hero-track ritual knife or a myth track empowering crystal? I've already simmed it up and down and with my current gear the crystal is only 4kdps ahead when both are upgraded to max, so 639 crystal vs 626 knife. At even itemlevel the knife is better. Feels weird not to take the myth track item though (even tho I wont afford the crests for a 639 crystal for a long while)

[mellow copper]

myth crystal

[royal lantern]

tf does the game want me to put my password in

i didnt do that for 15 years

tf is my password

[grim jay]

The crystal, even if that question answered itself

It sims higher

[zealous wolf]

roUge123

[grim jay]

Possibly the best passive trinket

[strange python]

This might be the cook, drop CT take MA, drop supercharged cringe and go subterfuge ??????

[zealous wolf]

negative

[royal lantern]

ah yes

drop CT

sure

[grim jay]

Davynkisser69

[royal lantern]

1 of the 2 abilitys that matters for aoe

drop that one

[drowsy hatch]

the supercharge cook is fine

[viral spire]

Drop CT

[grizzled geyser]

it wont sim higher until I invest like 210 gilded into it tough, and then is only better by 4k dps, which is like 0.2% overall, thats why im asking

[drowsy hatch]

the ct cook is psychotic

[viral spire]

Supercharge cook is the cook

[shy pecan]

iLoV3b31ngAFurRy

[grim jay]

Super Insanely bad

[vagrant tapir]

drop ct

[viral spire]

2 leth cook

[upper jolt]

where can i find the updated talents for M+?

[drowsy hatch]

its in wowhead but theres no real changes

[vagrant tapir]

1 talent point

[wild hound]

For someone who has made a shit ton of changes to the weakaura, anyone know of an easy single weakaura import for tracking Envenoms now?

[grim jay]

Yeah thats the definition of "the knife isnt bis because it cant go to max ilvl"

The myth trinket is rare af

[subtle tundra]

ct should be your 2nd highest dmg

[grim jay]

And potentially bis for m+

[upper jolt]

oh, i figured since it looks almost the same that maybe its not updated

[grim jay]

Equal to the others in St

[upper jolt]

lmao

[strange python]

CT just padds, and you get more prio with subterfuge

[waxen oyster]

Ct just pad

[subtle tundra]

i wll fucking bust my head open

[waxen oyster]

x

D

[drowsy hatch]

yeah its just the same rn, ttk is expensive to take. There are cooks happening

[strange python]

You press CT to look good on overall and not speed up the key

[subtle tundra]

with a gun

[waxen oyster]

you cap out at 11s brother

[subtle tundra]

go

[waxen oyster]

calm down hotrod

[wild hound]

Singular focus my man, singular focus

[subtle tundra]

ok calm down

its just rage bait

[strange python]

Its not

[delicate egret]

I have a vault advice question

[strange python]

I hate playing echoing

Its just that

[subtle tundra]

ok then dont play it

LOL

[drowsy hatch]

so just drop that

[subtle tundra]

what does that have to do with ct

[drowsy hatch]

why is ct coming into that conversation

[waxen oyster]

m+ players should be mandated

[strange python]

And I like extended subterfuge since people fail to kick stuff

[waxen oyster]

to take an iq test

[grim jay]

Pad is a brainrot thing and ct does St + funnel with deathstalker

[subtle tundra]

this is one of the builds imma try

CALL ME CRAZY

[native seal]

I see some assa rogue's in mythic top 100 kills runs double equip trinkets. (egg and spyglass) is it legit a viable option to ru if you REALLY don't wanna run transmitter anymore?

[delicate egret]

I got a mythic track spyglass, but also a 632 helmet. The helmet is a big upgrade right now (currently 606 helm), with the trinket being a minor as I already have HC track trinket, which would y'all take?

[grim jay]

You are, no need to state the obvious

[eager ibex]

anyone got a good subterfuge fatebound build?

[grim jay]

No

Because it isnt good

[royal lantern]

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[strange python]

I mean zerocool came up with this thing last night on stream

[eager ibex]

Ok, cold blood vs superchgarger?

[drowsy hatch]

easy answer is sim but I would just take the helm

[subtle tundra]

AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

I WILL BUST MY FUCKING HEAD OPEN

[grim jay]

So its cooked by default

[eager ibex]

Ok, cold blood vs superchgarger?

for M+

[strange python]

I mean the guy has some rly nice cooks

[subtle tundra]

💀

[strange python]

Assa main for long time

[drowsy hatch]

what in the world are you cold blooding in assa

[zealous wolf]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps

[grim jay]

Wowhead is updated
You usually dont even consider fatebound in m+

[eager ibex]

as fate bound

[real granite]

another zerocool moment again, ooh noo no

[eager ibex]

ok

[subtle tundra]

i am not allowed to comment on anything around that guy

[waxen oyster]

ok so you jerk off streamers all day

negative iq andy

[rotund oak]

give us the hunter insight now,no one rly cares for melees

MM ro BM

[grim jay]

Many of us play it for just as long or even longer

[rotund oak]

or Surv

[grim jay]

Doesnt make the cooks valid

[strange python]

I'm not coming up with this guys chill

I play hunter main

Assa is alt

[drowsy hatch]

we can tell

[rotund oak]

thats obvious 😄

[subtle tundra]

yea then dont blindly copy what streamer do

[zinc frost]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[strange python]

I'm not copying I'm just asking

[waxen oyster]

i am like convinced

[chilly mist]

think he just double vanish-copes

[strange python]

Thats why I am here

[waxen oyster]

people who main m+ in this game

[real granite]

you really did twist the knife on that one bro

[waxen oyster]

do not have braincells

[subtle tundra]

he has a certain reputation for his decisions

[strange python]

This discord is super toxic man

[chilly mist]

why?

[strange python]

You cant ask a fucking question

[rotund oak]

based take tbh

[strange python]

Without getting flamed

laughed at

[high walrus]

is there a meaningful difference between authority of the depths and radiant power for m+?

[strange python]

I didnt say play this that better that

Insane

How elitist you guys are

[subtle tundra]

yea if i get muted for a week what will i do at work

[grim jay]

Calm down brother

[drowsy hatch]

You said a dumb thing and we said it's dumb

[grizzled ember]

I’ve just been playing 1 of each

[waxen oyster]

like high end pvpers i can respect for being

[drowsy hatch]

no need to get sensitive

[waxen oyster]

good

[slow tulip]

unlike who? 😄

[grim jay]

Nah just fed up

[subtle tundra]

thanks needed to bust one rn

[rotund oak]

[tropic hull]

Kreygasm

[vital dew]

im still a little unsure of how supercharger works, is it just.. whatever combo spender you use next? because its always showing the first combo point for me

[strange python]

Bro read the chat above, I ask a question about a cook and I get absolutely burned by everyone like wtf

[thin plinth]

hi guys, just to make sure, these are the bis talents for m+ now right ?

[drowsy hatch]

It just adds CP to your next finisher

[real granite]

nah not the whole disc, theres some specimens that have emotions towards m+ players, whatever that concept could be

[tropic jewel]

holy shit st feels so good

[drowsy hatch]

It does not work like old ER

[nimble tartan]

[tropic jewel]

im swimming in energy

[real granite]

just ignore it

[vital dew]

thats awesome thanks reading it doesnt su ggest that to me ty!

[subtle tundra]

you asked about no CT, we gave you the answer and then your argument was mr strimmer said it

[slow tulip]

welcome to wow community, you didnt deserve it for sure, sorry for your experience here :/

[grim jay]

Yeah well true. But understandable emotions

[chilly mist]

sorry for enjoying m+, guess im just dumb by default

[solar wyvern]

This is unusually toxic ngl.

[rotund oak]

[strange python]

It wasnt an arguemnt I just said it wasnt my oppinion just heard from zero since the guy went insta to tell me, chill bro you're capped at +11s

[subtle tundra]

strimmers are dumb.
like all of them
just cause they have viewers and play the game 14hrs a day doesnt make them smart

strippers*

[grim jay]

How about your rename to Chief Diversity White Knight

[slow tulip]

its the same bruv

xdd

[real granite]

not really, if ya cant handle read shit dont be in a class disc where obviosly ppl is gonna ask things that are stupid from your pov xD

[dapper pumice]

THANK THE LORDS, THE GRACE IS MINE

[grim jay]

You got told like 15 times that the path sucks tho, it doesnt even matter who is doing the cooking

[fallen arch]

W

[drowsy hatch]

I think we should turn a new leaf

And just say everything is good

[rotund oak]

gz,skadryns is bis

[grim jay]

No I mean the emotions towards the streamer

[dapper pumice]

too bad its champion only

[real granite]

ah, well

[strange python]

Surv > mm> bm for m+

[dapper pumice]

so i need to farm hero track later lol

[chilly mist]

alot of migrating redditors in this discord sometimes 😉

[rotund oak]

solid take,although was aware

[waxen oyster]

There isn't a good m+ streamer with non baked takes

[grim jay]

Most of the people that said what seemingly offended him are regulars for quite some time tho

[waxen oyster]

seli when he pushed seriously

MAYBE

[grim jay]

Kush

[subtle tundra]

hey man i had good takes

[rain wraith]

Sin rogues in here are all whispyr meta slaves.

[waxen oyster]

kush is a raid main

tbh

[subtle tundra]

like, play assa no cap better than outlaw its not grief

[vital dew]

does Supercharger do anything if you're already at max combo points?

[rotund oak]

kush is crazy,insanely skilled but crazy 😄

[drowsy hatch]

Yes it goes to 9

[real granite]

i find him funny, just dont blindly trust whatever whoever say without reasons and arguments, usefull behaviour in life in general xD

[vital dew]

ohmy

ty

[grim jay]

Still streams m+ tho

[royal lantern]

i just means "use shiv->next finisher has 2 bonus CP attached"

[subtle tundra]

he is just on the assa hype train

[vital dew]

❤️

[waxen oyster]

kush will play anything that isnt outlaw

let's be real

[royal lantern]

if you put 2 points into it, its next 2 finishers

thats all

[grim jay]

Ik, he plays sub preferably

[strange python]

PL for surv more st oriented, sentinel still more overall, but sim has sentinel up 100% when its off cd where in m+ envoirment might be less basicaly whatever u like more, even tho pl has more defensive stuff

[cunning needle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[zinc frost]

Ryfie didn’t have any bad takes

[slow tulip]

musclebrah is entertaining and usually aswers a lof of questions

donno about how good he is atm

[subtle tundra]

someone link

garret

FAST

[strange python]

Can tell

[waxen oyster]

!40k

[lapis lantern]

is raidbots bugged currently? im trying to sim my vault and the values seem to be wrong

[grim jay]

Cant say I share the opinion of him being funny, but to each their own

[nimble vector]

Check pin and make sure you’re simming correct version

[grim jay]

He is literally one of the most cooked rogue streamers

[royal lantern]

^

[lapis lantern]

yea i tried all 3, still bugged

[waxen oyster]

catch nibren if he streams

probs only during prog

[strange python]

Yeah can tell, as soon as you ask something that has the tiniest disagreement precentage you get jumped on

[royal lantern]

zero is the pinnacle of "just spam keys all day, 1 will suceed, number goes up and people act as if you are some god"

lol

[slow tulip]

in what way you mean, fam?

[bleak spoke]

if you can catch seli actually playing the game

you shoudl always just watch seli

[slow tulip]

like bad or toxic or both xd

[grim jay]

Bad bad

[median oak]

well it is a rogue discord if you didnt expect to get jumped then i dont even know

[waxen oyster]

though im pre sure nibren dislikes keys

[grim jay]

Idk about toxic.

[waxen oyster]

despite he was in a legion mdi

first time their guild tried

[slow tulip]

oh ok

[chilly mist]

tyler1 of wow

[bleak spoke]

man i wish seli still actively did keys

[grim jay]

We need ramfam back

[royal lantern]

no, but if you ask a question that is either:

really really mindblowing bad if you think 3 seconds about it (like dropping CT in dungeons for....reasons???)

or asked 200000000x a day and the answer is "just check the guides that answer all the questions jesus christ"

yes you will getsome sass as answer

[royal lantern]

seli healed and realised that m+ is shit content

[lapis lantern]

mythic vault upgrades (619 -> 639) are simming worse

[waxen oyster]

didnt ram exclusively play outlaw

[slow tulip]

muscle was deff in an mdi team 2-3 exp ago, ye, and was a shot caller if i remember, but stopepd playing on that level

[strange python]

Hhaahahahhahahahahahahah

[chilly mist]

It should be ok to not know the correct questions to ask, without being shit on. In my opinion anyway

[lapis lantern]

seem to be the "opposite" numbers

[nimble vector]

Are you dropping 4set

[grim jay]

Not only, but most of the time iirc, he was one of the few not cooked ones tho

[lapis lantern]

IM IDIOT

THANKS

KILL ME

CRINGE

[bleak spoke]

@royal lantern okay but like listen like, i just need video evidence of how to play situations correctly

[marsh raven]

nightly or latest?
See pinned post

[subtle tundra]

i think he played monk too?

[lapis lantern]

I DID NOT SIM IT AS SET

[subtle tundra]

or am i tripping

[lapis lantern]

KILL ME

[strange python]

Well not everyone has 100000 hours of assa rogue, is this 3k rio assa rogue discord only?

[grim jay]

Doesnt change that he had insanely cooked and wrong gameplay

[subtle tundra]

i miss ramfam...

[bleak spoke]

musclebrah was good under pressure in scary situations, which is something a lot of ppl aren't imo

[waxen oyster]

also didnt seli stop playing

when his team did

[bleak spoke]

seli raided a bit this tier dind't he

[royal lantern]

and you dont get shit on for asking a question

you get shit on if you react with "UHM i just asked a question dont tell me to check a guide!!!" or "but Streamer XYZ said something out of context so it must be true and you all are wrong and dont know anything!!!"

[subtle tundra]

he is still raiding

[royal lantern]

and its almost always 1 of those 2 things

[grim jay]

You dont need to have 100000 hours to read a guide, watch a vid or just take the answers you got the previous 10 times

Tho

Tbf

No hate

[dapper halo]

looks like bonespike bug still exists

[waxen oyster]

hes 6/8m this tier

[bleak spoke]

what's the bug

[royal lantern]

this patch gave us more bugs then ever

its impressive

[waxen oyster]

i guess he saw the light of just being a vault filler

absolutely based

[slow tulip]

ok, i can agree, but can you give an example of what does he do wrong or you mean just in general he's bad? thx in advance

[pure star]

I just realized that if they decide to tune rogues next week it’s probably gonna fuck us in m+ even though we can’t even take ttk

[subtle tundra]

haha yes!

[nimble vector]

[waxen oyster]

oh no we were so bad prior

[subtle tundra]

most recently? he literally started talking about dropping CT(said that guy)

[grim jay]

The best example is his opener guide from quite some time ago which always gets memed about

[slow tulip]

holyy

[strange python]

I've read it, but its a new patch so wondering if stuff changed

[royal lantern]

its really simple

playing on a high level and explaining what you are doing/telling people what to play are 2 VERY different pair of shoes

[subtle tundra]

he played subterfuge in DF

[dapper halo]

i dont understand the les envenom aura, its too cryptic

[grim jay]

The guide got updated, they have deadlines and shit needs to be there for every new patch

[chilly mist]

I mean both of those happens and I still stand by what I said. It should be ok to not be experienced with these things. It can be explained to them without making the feel bad

[subtle tundra]

when it was dogass for dps

and was recommending it

[pure star]

I just hope they take away this auto proc thistle, it’s so annoying in m+

[ionic fox]

^^^^

[zinc frost]

Something something jpc deathly shadows

[blazing pumice]

deathly shadows was bis

[chilly mist]

But maybe we just disagree on that, and that's fine

[royal lantern]

like, literally yesterday we had a guy come in and explaining people "casualaddict used mutilate 3x in a row in aoe instead of FoK, thats for priority dmg right??????? thats what we do in m+ now!!!!"

[cunning needle]

shut the fuck up

[pure star]

BUT raid ST? My oh my does it feel nice lol

[cunning needle]

i'm not doing the 28 second prepull swap talents again

[mellow copper]

does anyone have working CPs wa with the new supercharger ? My old one is fcked

[cunning needle]

press 3 fucking macros

do not bring it back

[bronze pike]

i dont think it was mostly toxic or aggressive

[blazing pumice]

it was bis for m+ s1 SL

[subtle tundra]

oh la la, yea man why did mr strimmer do the incorrect button press? it has to be for a reason

[waxen oyster]

no it wasnt

[royal lantern]

and when people explained them that its wrong and probs just user error they went on a huge rant how we all suck and that casual has higher m+ score and therefore knows everything etc

and then 1 hour later casual came and just said "ye i pressed wrong buttons"

[bronze pike]

if anything it sounded annoyed

and it is annoying

[balmy condor]

we don't track it anymore

[royal lantern]

thats the endless "m+ score" debate

[balmy condor]

just live in bliss

[grim jay]

Its btw not even being wrong about it which is bad, plenty of the World first raiders dont play their rotation optimally, because thats not at all what they must do, but spreading it widely as correct is just bad

[subtle tundra]

yea on my fucking ansurek kill i forgot to build to 7cp twice in last phase to proc darkest night. guess what i was top boss dmg

[bronze pike]

remember that

was funny

[late tusk]

Hello, noobie here why are we running trikks now? We were going with blackjack talent (30% less dmg before blind)

[waxen oyster]

are you implying someone can make human error

[bronze pike]

that reminds me something in druid discord

[subtle tundra]

game hard, people make mistakes at the top level aswell

[waxen oyster]

in a 10 hour stream

[balmy condor]

blackjack good run blackjack

[bronze pike]

squishy actively tells people not to run his talents or do the stuff he does and listen to classcord

[grim jay]

Thats what a Chicken Leg Thief would say

[bronze pike]

and a guy streaigfht up says

[tacit mauve]

does anyone have a weakaura that shows combo points as just a number?

[balmy condor]

I'm a gambler

blackjack time

[native seal]

can anyone help me with vault?
i either take :
myth track helm (currently wearing a maxed out hero track helm with a socket)
bottled flayedwing toxin trink myth
dead eye spyglass myth
if i take one of the trinkets i fee like i need to use double equip, since i'm already wearing a 639 ahnub qiraj crystal

[bronze pike]

"i know squishy said thta, but they still have high io so surely they must be better than classcords"

and im like

wtf

[agile wedge]

team i can delete snd from my actionbar now or is there a case where i would to press it manually?

[zealous wolf]

deadass spyglass is bad isnt it? low proc

[drowsy hatch]

delete

[austere ridge]

Used to use one like this in wrath. So short answer no

[balmy condor]

one of the best

[grim jay]

Did you win on the 7 grim butthole gamble?

[bronze pike]

even if streamers tell these people an answer they dont want to hear

[balmy condor]

no I met some lovely people and bricked a 9

[dapper halo]

hmmh, the envenom tracker needs a good solution, le weakaura is not a solution,i cant understand it, hmmh

[balmy condor]

we got double umbriss band

they were funny though

[dapper halo]

guess i have to track it with tellmewhen, the buff stacks

[balmy condor]

I liked them

[drowsy hatch]

press envenom many time

you win

[dapper halo]

well, thats one

[normal mist]

Oh no another tmw user

[royal lantern]

import the m+ build->swap to blackjack and elusivness->the end

[waxen oyster]

"whispyr why are you using transmitter its clearly better right"

[grim jay]

I had some lovely people yesterday aswell, they bricked my 12 mists but I wasnt even mad. Rare to get nice m+ people

[balmy condor]

jokes on you, I run double passive in m+

[late tusk]

Where is elvusiivness?

[dapper halo]

oh yes, big icons goood

[balmy condor]

AGAIN AGAIN

[austere ridge]

Actually cursed

[normal mist]

Me too brother, I use it aswell

[grim jay]

Holy freaking god of cursed interfaces

[nimble vector]

I hope this was done as a bit

[slow tulip]

this UI is cursed brah

[dapper halo]

its not a bit

[strange python]

be honest with me

is it fucked

[dapper halo]

i honestly like it

[normal mist]

Pikku they will never understand us

They complain about mine too

[zealous wolf]

how does 7cp + supercharged cp work? i waste the supercharge or?

[grim jay]

Im so glad there isnt a single item I could get from m+ anymore

[drowsy hatch]

it goes to 9 no waste

[zealous wolf]

wtf 9

[strange python]

9 cp?

[austere ridge]

Yes 9

[strange python]

[normal mist]

7+2

[zealous wolf]

its over 9(thousand)

[grim jay]

9!

[echo cargo]

now that master assassin in back in, for all subsequent kingsbane + deathmark windows, are we using vanish at the last six seconds of kingsbane, or garrote before deathmark?

[strange python]

i can only count to 9 so this is PERFECT

[normal mist]

No

[dapper halo]

i passed on the skardyns kekw

[drowsy hatch]

Lucky you I'm stuck on 8

[balmy condor]

your UI looks like one of those slide puzzles where you have to rearrange the squares to reveal the true image

[grizzled fulcrum]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dapper halo]

it was in my wall

[torn dome]

in a nutshell, we moving the talent point from ER to lethality i guess?

[royal lantern]

did you try opening wowhead and copypasting the trinket from there

[grim jay]

Either before DM for gar if you dont lose a cast or just both on CD after opener

Pick your poison

[dapper halo]

haha, but i love it <3

[zealous wolf]

wait a sec

[midnight atlas]

ez gloves

[strange python]

u will get there one day bestie

[zealous wolf]

we can have 11 with 2 points in supercharger?

incredible numbers

[strange python]

11? too much, cant count that far

[mellow copper]

wait so how does it work, just next spender on however many CPs will be counted as +1/+2 ?

[dapper halo]

my guildies dont want me to discord stream cause they think my ui is horrible

[balmy condor]

ye

[grim jay]

Im quite positive there are tons of swirlies hiding below the individual pieces

[balmy condor]

next finisher is +2cp

[dapper halo]

damn elvui peasants

[subtle tundra]

imagine using elvui

[strange python]

[echo cargo]

I want both please, 14 second master assassin !

[royal lantern]

you use shiv->next finisher has +2 CP added

if you put 2 points into the talent, itss next 2 finishers

[grim jay]

Imagine not running elvui

Thats like playing minecraft

[dapper halo]

i really like blizz default ui <3

[royal lantern]

imagine running that abomination that eats reources

[brisk plank]

with supercharger up do we always finish on 7 points even if we dont have dn ?

[grim jay]

Imagine needing the few fps

[drowsy hatch]

no just do normal prio

[royal lantern]

you use finishers like you always do

[balmy condor]

with supercharger up you do not change anything

[grizzled fulcrum]

so what talents we run on high keys now ?

[royal lantern]

can use the charged CP to get DN if its up i gues

[nimble vector]

Can you take a screenshot in combat I’m genuinely fascinated by this monstrosity

[drowsy hatch]

5+ w/out dn, 7 w/ dn

[brisk plank]

so basically nothing changed in prios just -er and -snd button?

[grim jay]

The Hybrid build in the pins or the guide

[late tusk]

Ah its wowhead rotation updated? I mean, nothing changed, or its still in progress?

[royal lantern]

yes

nothing changed

same gameplay

except the ttk envenom stuff

[austere ridge]

More dmg

[brisk plank]

sweet

[balmy condor]

-thistle tea

[grizzled fulcrum]

thank you

[cunning needle]

do you force max CP finisher after pressing shiv?

[balmy condor]

I will choke you

[cunning needle]

please

[balmy condor]

nothing changed

[royal lantern]

oh ye, i should probably get a shiv+tea macro i gues

[verbal vessel]

careful he's in gb 7 jail

[cunning needle]

@balmy condor hows the cooking going for subterfuge in ST

[brisk plank]

we arent playing around saving thistle tea for shiv right? we just blast as usual even if it will waste our tea charges?

[balmy condor]

hey now

this is a 9

[strong wing]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

subterfuge in aoe*

I'm not that insane

[cunning needle]

oh i thought you said even in ST was good

i just tried it in a key

garrote stonks up

like 2nd highest damage

[balmy condor]

I mean it's not the worst thing imaginable

but it's kinda stinky

[cunning needle]

i like it since it makes it easier to open on packs as well

you can garrote opener without being fucked

[balmy condor]

yeh

subterfuge doing something

is very pog

love subterfuge

[cunning needle]

(i also played double vanish)

[balmy condor]

that's fine

[cunning needle]

feelcraft says its good

over 1% crit

especially with MA

[balmy condor]

yeh

reasonable

[dapper halo]

so basically, on st damage, im spamming ALOT more envenoms

i mean, like, alot more

[balmy condor]

ye

[cunning needle]

DoeS THIs meAN i HaVE nEw STat WeiGHtS siNCE cRIT is NOt AS STRoNg anYMOre wITh masTer aSSASsIN

[dapper halo]

well, im fine with this

[drowsy hatch]

just slam you wont run out of energy very easily

[cunning needle]

okay that text was more cursed than i thought

[raven merlin]

why my dsclice subterfuge-build sims like 100k over the "normal" m+ build? any ideas

[balmy condor]

cause it's good

hope that helps

[subtle tundra]

yes buffed talent is good

[cunning needle]

turns out 25% crit chance during burst was stronger than expected

[balmy condor]

varas, thoughts

[tawny geyser]

Bro my keybinds 😢 this all used to be full.

[strong wing]

How do we play around ttk now since they are async? Trying to mantain both makes no sense right?

[raven merlin]

goated talents

[balmy condor]

pandemic the bottom one if possible

[stoic shale]

https://prnt.sc/hPpocLGPqFaE

Yo, What is the most BIS ara-ara trinket or sureki neck ?

[cunning needle]

no scent?

[balmy condor]

idk yolo

[subtle tundra]

did you see my build that i linked earlier

[tacit mauve]

bro that vault

[tawny geyser]

Literally read Whispyr's name.

[cunning needle]

my brother

[pseudo cosmos]

Kek

[balmy condor]

no

[cunning needle]

okay subterfuge is good

but like

please

[pseudo cosmos]

Wait isn’t it suppost to be bad

[cunning needle]

not anymore as of like 6 hours ago (or when patch hit)

[balmy condor]

happy?

[cunning needle]

yes

[strong wing]

With the bottom one you mean the lowest bar each envenom right?

[balmy condor]

yes

[slow tulip]

changing the WA to show only the one env buff with the lowest time will work or?

[tawny geyser]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[subtle tundra]

no sbs cause its not needed with subterfuge

[late surge]

so if Im understanding correctly, supercharger just makes ur next finisher act as +2 cp spent and its not tied to a specific combo point right?

[subtle tundra]

trust

[balmy condor]

man this some basic bitch shit

I thought you were cooking

[drowsy hatch]

yes

[soft merlin]

Whispyr, check this. ttk/sub cooking in m+? (havnt been able to read everything going on here)

[merry bison]

are my stats the reason I only do 600k dps st with 620

[soft merlin]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ucZP351VWQi4fEk88mvqL4

[pseudo cosmos]

Ohhh so it’s good now fml

[balmy condor]

ye

[subtle tundra]

i have to cook small cause i havent played yet....

[soft merlin]

i like that

[late surge]

thanks homie

[drowsy hatch]

every build is garbage and goated

[normal furnace]

why does rotation section on wowhead mentioned 2x shivs in both single target and aoe, but we don't take 2x shiv talent? Raids vs m+ situation?

[cunning needle]

yes, it's entirely your stats and not your gameplay

[drowsy hatch]

the monkey button picture is getting work

[cunning needle]

you need more haste that'll fix it

[subtle tundra]

i WAS thinking of dropping amp + dtb

but that might be a bit burnt

[cunning needle]

for legal reasons what i said above is not to be taken as advice

[rugged mango]

/wa

[cunning needle]

do not take more haste

[drowsy hatch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[normal kindle]

i m lost so many chances

[merry bison]

Nah I was serious, my opener was correct and the whole st gameplay is just mutilate > envenom and holdin up your poisons

[normal kindle]

changes

[charred helm]

i have double your mastery, idk if that helps

[cunning needle]

youre probably fucking up something

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[cunning needle]

post a ST fight into there

see what it says

then post a log here as well

and we can abuse critique your rotation

[merry bison]

yea didnt log, can I log on a dummy?

[cunning needle]

probably

dunno if it'll work for analyzer though

[merry bison]

kk lemme try, thx

[cunning needle]

like 620 ilvl shouldnt be below 1mill dps

[runic basin]

are there any BRD items nice for rogue?

[merry bison]

majority is outlaw gear if that would make a change dunno

[cunning needle]

nah

well unless you're using swords

then that'd explain it

[merry bison]

nah daggers xd

[dawn elm]

any good wa to track each application of envenom? or dont we care about keeping it at 2 stacks

[cunning needle]

ecks dee

[spare kayak]

do u have poisons on?

[zinc frost]

Wrong poisons?

[cunning needle]

you can do a dummy sim and then compare it to what you do on a dummy

[worldly bridge]

heya is wowhead stuff up to date ? Im looking for quick import of "new" specs

[drowsy hatch]

yes.

[balmy condor]

maybe

[zealous wolf]

do you have a sword in offhand?

[pseudo cosmos]

[cunning needle]

tbh i dont think you can even muti without 2 daggers

[pseudo cosmos]

You can’t

[zealous wolf]

could explain 600k

xd

garrote enjoyer

[snow flicker]

Is it necessary to track supercharger?

[drowsy hatch]

no

just do your normal finisher cp prio

[shut garnet]

not sure if my ui is a bit bugged currently but does this supercharging work exactly like ER used to? like you have to land on that CP with a finisher and itd act as X+2? if so, can this only supercharge CP5, 6 and 7 or can it go below that too

[drowsy hatch]

it works nothing like er did

[strange python]

no

[drowsy hatch]

is just adds 2 to your finisher

[pseudo cosmos]

What we giving to take subterfuge then am at work while everyone here’s cooking

[royal lantern]

no

[drowsy hatch]

doesnt matter where you finish

[pseudo cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[royal lantern]

use shiv->next finisher has 2 bonus cp added

[normal furnace]

@balmy condor can I ask when to use shiv inside Kingsbane with m+ build? Since you only have 1 charge and not 2 like mentioned in rotation section

[royal lantern]

thats it

[shut garnet]

right so i just press it, finish at the normal rules, and my next finisher just does more dam

[balmy condor]

last 8

[robust axle]

8 seconds left of KB

[normal furnace]

ty

[drowsy hatch]

yeah. Just ignore supercharge

[balmy condor]

rotation section says that

[royal lantern]

2nd half of kb

[shut garnet]

dub, ty

[balmy condor]

btw

[ebon prism]

Whispyrs thing just glows when to use it right?

[strange python]

woah its whispyr, my god and savior

[balmy condor]

I got about 2 min to burn

ask questions now

[verbal vessel]

wtf

[late surge]

do I need to track both envenom things

[drowsy hatch]

lmao what happened

[normal furnace]

sorry if I missed it, there is a lot of text, still learning 😄

[late surge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[tawny geyser]

@balmy condor Envenom WA - im confused AF.

[ebon prism]

Oh wait that is whispyr lol. Whispyr, what's the thing to left of your UI when you're stealth? It's a gray vertical bar

[balmy condor]

yes

[tawny geyser]

Make a videooo

[late surge]

fack

[keen spruce]

[ashen scroll]

Scale of 1-100 how much sanity do you have left

[late surge]

do u have a weakaura mr whispyr

[brisk forge]

Fate tree for M+ with new changes

[balmy condor]

-25

[late surge]

or is urs updated on wago

[balmy condor]

yes

[late surge]

ty goat

[subtle tundra]

1-100 is -99

[balmy condor]

2

[charred helm]

can you reply to my message with an emoji?

[subtle tundra]

[ebon prism]

Whispyr, what's the thing to left of your UI when you're stealth? It's a gray vertical bar. And what % buff in m+ did we get today?

[molten echo]

indiscriminate carnage timer

[tawny geyser]

With this new hype, im being ignored 3 days straight in assa channel 😢

[strange python]

whispyr, can you also count to 9?

[ashen scroll]

Holy shit he released the floodgate of questions

[drowsy hatch]

I doubt he can anymore lol

[ashen scroll]

-26 sanity now

[faint path]

CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMmZmZGmBAAAAAAYWMmtZAAAAAAottZmZYmBzMzysNmZwMjZGMzMbbLjZA2MLDMglglhJwwyA literally best build for my char

[strange python]

guess the q and a is over

[ebon prism]

Yeah sadge. That wasn't even 2 min

[strange python]

i wanted answer to my very important question

[molten echo]

We didnt get a buff in M+, as stated in the pins it's neither a buff or a nerf, neutral.

[robust axle]

Thing to the left is indiscriminate carnage, m+ is net 0

[balmy condor]

oh should update that

[ebon prism]

Ty sin legends

[midnight atlas]

st buff is good in m+ also

[subtle tundra]

we did get a buff cause subterfuge is really good apparently

[faint path]

If you were playing hybrid build new subter build is simming waaaaay better than it

[molten echo]

😮

Don't say that, don't make me play that shit

[dapper halo]

/wa

[ebon prism]

Who cooked it?

[dapper halo]

fuck

[subtle tundra]

yes and no
cause if you took the old build you didnt, but now probably did a bit if you play new build(NOT SURE)

[midnight atlas]

i guess im dropping bonespike and going for subterfuge, making the df s3 assa gameplay

[faint path]

Zero also when I sim it shows big dmg upg

[fiery eagle]

So to be clear,everyone's putting the extra point we got back into lethality?

[balmy condor]

me and armin last night

[tawny geyser]

Wait did I miss something? SnD isn't passive? It's as usual?

[ebon prism]

Oh damn

[drowsy hatch]

Cut to the chase makes it passive

[subtle tundra]

did you have to change apl for it?

[charred helm]

Why ppl so hyped about Master Assassin buff, you spend your time bleeding during that time barely doing any dmg

[ebon prism]

is empowered crystal giga bis for us in m+ as the passive trinket?

[faint path]

Just try in keys

[tacit otter]

afaik merk had some apl dslice adjustments giving subt a gain

[subtle tundra]

cause you bleed for 5 globals then you have half of MA still going

[tacit otter]

but whispyr for sure cooked aswell

[kindred hinge]

The MA M+ build is not done cooking no?

[balmy condor]

did he

[strange python]

our god and savior

[gritty cypress]

With subterfuge? Isn't that a massive DPS loss?

[dapper halo]

is it just me, or is it just easier to do dps on assa now, is the snd and reprimand removal so big things

[fleet mountain]

Olla, just did a 9 grim batol, anyone noticed that garrot dmg seems a lot higher overall now? Is that because of the 6 seconds increased Crit damage now?

[tacit otter]

wasnt that the thing in tc-assa channel?

[subtle tundra]

ok. this patch day shit is giving me a headache
so much stupid shit im seeing

[balmy condor]

1 blocked message 2 blocked messages

idk

[grim jay]

Hi its me

[tacit otter]

ah lol ye then nvm

[balmy condor]

I ain't openin that

[tawny geyser]

Hm? I don't see it anywhere

[molten echo]

anyone got the subterfuge build link then? gotta try this shit

[drowsy hatch]

cut to the chase procs regardless if snd is already active

so you dont need to hit it first

[ebon prism]

Before I grab empowered crystal from my vault, can u guys confirm it's giga bis in m+ for the passive trinket slot, with skardyns?

[merry bison]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/an9xMjHCfBcv42VJ#fight=last&type=summary&source=15 Don't know if I did the logging correct but that's the dummy log

[tawny geyser]

Ah got it now, thanks

[ivory flower]

Bis for m+

[grim jay]

Its as good as all of them on ST and slightly better in m+

[sacred schooner]

its on par with 626 knife if you have it

[grim jay]

No its not

Its better

[sacred schooner]

but you need to waste a lot of glided for it be better

[ebon prism]

Mine will be 639

[sacred schooner]

626 knife > 626 crystal

[tacit otter]

got it

[mystic osprey]

outlaw cooked time to learn sin

[grim jay]

Yeah its myth track crystal and you will upgrade it

Its not a waste either

[royal lantern]

damm

opener without SnD feels weird

[sacred schooner]

639 better ofc if you have nothing else to upgrade 😄

[pseudo elm]

Checking single target build on wowhead now, does master assasin talent really do more dps then shrouded suffocation?

[grim jay]

[grim jay]

No, Whispyr is lying

And he likes to put in worse talents

[drowsy hatch]

whispyr is just trying to inflate his parses

[ebon prism]

I knew it

[zinc frost]

Yeah I’m still pressing that key bind

[drowsy hatch]

by making us all take worse talents

[spring sigil]

Damn i cannot get my parse higher on queen. Start off so strong and then by p3 i end up at about 950k dps

[agile wedge]

he is baiting us into wrong talent to get all the good logs himself obv

[drowsy hatch]

the actual sauce is full subterfuge in st

[spring sigil]

dunno what i'm doing so wrong on p2/p3

[royal lantern]

REAL