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it should cut the beasts while you're killing them, and if you have a fire nearby, isnta cooked food on your bag
Thematic
but if it does, there's niche value in m+ to finish right before a long rp or osmething with many combo points
So we freed up two keybinds with these changes today? Nice
i wish gromnak played rogue tbh
Can rogues make Coaglamation trivial with the orbs by using cloak?
yes
it's a good idea
Anybody have energy problems in long fights?
Zzzz
I don't play rogue but my M+ group has one
Should rogues use cloak for clearing orbs over using it as a defensive in CoT?
on the second round of balls you should pick all the orbs and then cloak for dark pulse
only when i forget to reapply poisons on my daggers. Joke aside, some small periods of starvation, yes
depends, if a bunch of orbs are in creep you should cloak and hoover the orbs
after the second or fourth stomp the rogue should collect all the orbs and then cloak the dark pulse
90% of the time for orbs
but most pugs are good about not letting that happen to begin with
i mean feint and evasion are more than enough for the dot pulse
have a dps warrior that solo's every single orb wave without doing anything

second wind ftw
Ewwww warriors, icky
also is assa just insanely squishy?
no
no
I dont feel squishy
but you're weak to rot dmg, as is traditionally the case
I wouldn't say insanely, we don't have the biggest health pool is all
without elusiveness it has pretty bad single target damage/dot mitigation
or like none at all
it has no wall
almost all classes have a 30-40% wall
i mean, we have low hp, but we have the tools to survive
your wall cds are pretty low cd no?
Imagine not using elusiveness 👀
Feint is low cd.
the second wind interaction is just funny af
picking up the orbs doesnt do dmg, the boss only does dmg every 20ish seconds, so a dps warrior can take them all, Second Wind heals the shield away in 5-6 seconds and thats it
its cool that it works, ngl 
we got a few key abilitys to help not get clapped
Bis change
you take elusivness and press feint everytime dmg happens
i think stuff like that is actually good
(to have the same deffensive value a DK has that doesnt do anything at all)
Dks have cdr for their wall tho
things we have problem dealing are single target DoTs, specially physical. Final boss in Boralus for example. You have to cloak and feint preemptively if you see the DoT coming at you
otherwise you get nuked
And ams is giga
and then they have amz, and ams, on top of having like 8m hp and they wear plate
fuck dks
Ams is unironically the best defensive in the game
raid wide damage is always fine
https://i.imgur.com/jJSH2LW.png also like if you evasion the right thing (knife throw and not ice sickles) theoretically you would mitigate alot
but i'm bad
etc
and death's advance so they just laugh at many mechs everyone else has to do
kind of surprised WoW head recommends Cheat Death over Elusiveness in M+
i'm not surprised
Elusiveness just seems like the better answer
they have many beginners as their target audience
cheat is good in lower keys which is most people
so during most group wide dmg events y'all just pop Feint
Unless you 100000% die without elusiveness its almost always better to have cheat
^
Ye you'd take more damage
frost dk has ~20% magic dr just 100% passive
like, dont need to press anything, just multiple passive talents that give you passive DR stacked up lmao
But negating a death earlier in the key to something dumb is gonna be better
yes and evasion sometimes, our hero talent makes so it reduces 20% damage as well
it's like 18% now that they're nerfing rune carved plates by a pittace i guess

pittance*
https://i.imgur.com/EjB53ub.png relevant talents to discussion
20% magic iirc, slight but important distinction
ye ^
Ah the other part of elu, roger
yeah i dont know how they work together for magic dmg
Multiplicatively

100 damage = 100 * 0.8 * 0.8?
we wiped on last boss
yes
so for aoe magic dmg hit it would be 100 * 0.6 * 0.6
20% would be 0.8, not 0.6
rip deep fried
i think he's considering feint as well
well i'm assuming you're getting 40% from "aoe" from feint and 40% from "magic" from eva
but its still wrong
Then it would be 0.6 x 0.8 x 0.8
additive would be coooool
it's still 62% mit
so thicc
Crimson Vial harder
how dare you imply melees need better defensives
we just gotta get good
https://i.imgur.com/zooPJ5e.png sometimes it really do be that way
it’d be cool if we got a similar choice node that allowed us to drop cloak for a FAT dr cd like ice cold
its not even a meme


you forgot mirror images
tbh good mages used this as a crutch for so long
45sec 10% dr btw
do alter time next
there's more
blink barrier
actual barrier
mass barrier
displacement actually heals you for more than crimson vial for no reason btw
lmao mages are like solo self found healers
counterpoint it is offglobal and lossless
and pressing alter refunds blink charges
you forgot that arcane mage barrier also reduces debuff timers
:3
youre right, its the mages who are wrong
stop im getting depressed
wrong one sorry https://i.imgur.com/VAlhXg9.png
both are good

its just stupid cus like
we had it for a while that rogue and mage both where "you are good at mitigating dmg if it doesnt happen regulary"
oh still wrong one
and then blizz just went and made it 100% of the time for mage
while also giving them multiple max hp heals
they have 5 skills or so that are able to remove webs in ovi'nax
meanwhile we have 2 and one of them is from our damage rotation

its a good bit
https://i.imgur.com/QdhqveP.png AHH STILL WRONG ONE SORRY
https://i.imgur.com/rPD5Avw.png they buffed it it is literally barkskin btw
crimson vial should be off GCD and 3 charges if talented. With auto-drink, same as thistle tea
crimson vial should just return to healing you for 40%

they cut it in half because allegedly we were gonna get some weird vial stuff with pickpocketing mobs
new talent idea: feint activates crimson vial
torghast talent
we are gaming now

new talent: You cannot die
step activates vial vial activates feint feint activates evasion evasion activates cloak cloak refunds a charge of step
that's actually how i did the torghast boss rush
all off gcd pls
the defensive cycle
how many keybinds do we get refunded due to the patch?
2
also remmeber that the CD starts when you use the ability
so you use it, have 40sec 20% dr, and when it ends its allready at 80sec CD

As a non-native I have a really hard time to understand it😅 Do I spam Envenom if I have enough energy for TTK to procc and KB is not up in the next 6 seconds? Or do I like wait for the old Env to be at ~1 second?
underhanded upper hand treatment, nothing loses cooldown while feint is up
hi, dumb dumb question. First day playing rogue - do I understand correctly that Echoing Reprimand is not mentioned in the rotation portion of the wowhead guide because from tomorrow (EU) we won't be using it?
yerp
Still don't get why they couldn't make auto thistle a choice node.
it wont exist as a usable ability, its now a new talent
Best of both worlds.
Its getting deleted, so yes we wont be using it
thanks
the VT/earthquake treatment, I figured they would based on feedback
because it doesnt matter
will of the necropolis blood draw null magic 15% bonus absorb shields 3-6% avoidance conditional to being cc'd, lichborne bark, amz (does that count), absorb shield on white hits, rune carved plates
death strike, tbh
they don't even take death pact cuz it's not high quality enough

- If you are in cooldowns, spend energy (dont pool)
- Start pooling when Kingsbane is coming off cooldown (example is 6 seconds here)
- Probably doesnt matter much because it doesnt look like we'll be playing sanguine blades - if you drop your envenom chain, pool up to start a new one
Another thing, you don't need to keybind SnD
after today's patch
oh yeah 20% stam
There's most likely a sweet spot where you dont want to overspam evenom to maintain your chain going but still have a decent TTK overlap
Thank you very much
@balmy condor Lovely work on the video my bro. Really good watch and explained everything in detail. Thankyou!
how do you guys deal with aggro, i'm pulling agro near the end of packs and just dying
hi guys, is there still a weakaura for roll the bones rerolls?
have a tank that actually presses buttons
Dont even think thats possible unless your tank is AFK
so theres nothing i can do?
cus how tf do you lose aggro AT THE END of a pack 
aggro should never be an issue at the end
your tank is doing something wrong
aggro should never be an issue after 5 seconds
only way you should ever agro is if you dont tricks and you insta crit the mob before the tank hits it
unless your tank legit doesnt play the game
well, you dont play tricks cus tricks is usssules and doesnt even do anything
its normally the 1 mob i've got deathmark and kingsbane on
They hotfix nerfed mages and dks

Bless
even then
W shit
the only time i get aggro is if i hit a mob that wasnt in the initial aoe my tank did
holy
they went after those real quick, breath damage down 10%?
I play tricks in pug keys
chat do i become a dragon
"We’re also planning tuning for other specs, to be implemented with weekly maintenance next week (30 October), and we’ll have more specifics to share on that in a few days."
/hide
xD quick arcane and dk nerfs
uh oh
lol
tricks the shamans
we gotta vanish
buffs for arcane
going to the mage discord
hit all the buttons
LFR Tricks healers and pull everything then watch raid wipe
collectively, sin rogues should throw parses for the week
lil nervous that with frost dk getting these nerfs, assa gonna be next after a couple months : /
i memed this earlier but i regularly tricks DPS in trash during prog and try to score kills
were fine 
we were already competitive with fdk
fun minigame
I mean ill still play assa even if it gets nerfed cause iron wire is so fun
and now were jsut gonna look lopsided
couple of months, more like couple of days
yeah..
Is this still rough and salty?
Arcane getting hit with 14 different nerfs before BM hunter becomes playable is crazy
Or my personal favorite, Queue AV and tricks whoever is waiting to kill Van / Drek and watch tem get 1 shot
oh yeah find the yapper, that sounds fun
remember saphiron in naxx... and the iceblocks.. and then the toy that turns you into an iceblock, my personal best was 7 kills by pretending to be an ice block
Watching the video of Whisp I’m on the m+ part. Have I missed something? Had we stopped running scent?
frost got cooked lol
do you use poisoned knife at any time? Like is it worth keeping on a panel?
no
Well well well
rogues are next on a chopping block tho, after those two 😄
Not really, but running the poison centric cleave build is competitive
and enhs maybe
hard to crit with garrote cast
assa rogue doesnt need nerf its very weak atm
Rogue is completely balanced
do i craft 2 weapons until i get a myth track?
thats the spirit
1 weapon
we got a 30% buff just now (to race change to dracthyr) 
Is patch live in murica?
Can we all agree to play bad on purpose this week to avoid nerfs next week? pls guys
Just need your mainhand
what do i do with my other sparks just nothing?
fill in gaps with your gear
but upgrading myth track gear is more efficient than crafting a 636 item using 90 crests 
next time you'll have the energy to cast an ability it will be next week yes
perfect
if you have myth track gear of course
like the only reason people didn't complain about assa is cuase we had fdk as a shield
our M+ dmg is crazy, we dont burst as high but our overalls are like very simillar to fdk
and now nerfed

no buff
he doesn't know
arcane and fdk got nerfed just now
Big nerf xD
my fdk friend is malding
FDK got gutted
I feel we are next on the chopping block
yes, it applies your weapon poison instantly. useful for i. e. Grim Batol 3rd boss when adds spawn, throw knife at them with Crippling Poison to slow them
“Not only is sin rogue one of the most powerful specs DPS wise, it has one of the most overpowered abilities in the game, Iron Wire”

we also kinda need to play in high keys to do great dmg
nah you can do crazy dmg in basically any key level
okay but like you're still getting wither away and dark talons at the same time now
like
in 10s things die so fast i cant even use CDs half the time
Anytime assass gets
Nerfed it somehow gets over nerfed lol
splatter just hits too hard
its good dmg for sure but i wouldnt call it crazy
as long as they dont nerf it to the point where we gotta play outlaw im good
just play with bad players! problem solved
spatter needs another 5 % nerf if they do anything
am i crazy for being legit enrvous bout an assa nerf without our fdk shield anymore?
i think this is the fastest i've been able to send kb without completely inting it
tbh even if they gutted assa im not going to garbolaw
echo is running one in their push comp unfortunately
ret is like 14
muti fok deathmark env etc
and thats a hugely watched stream combined between them all
1 rogue out of 20
feels int without full scent of blood
you get 3 stacks of scent
that's fine
if you get the other stacks
pack will die
the rupture is so you can even spatter in the first place

if you could spatter without it
you would go gg kb env

to go really really fast
maybe my groups are bad because i dont have packs where im using KB lasting less than 20 seconds
your final tick of KB will pop before they can cast exterm
that's the idea behind this
cuz fastest they can open is remorseless walking in, howling reaper pillar breath
dnd
4 oblits into exterms
with one howling blast proc
can NA people login into game? or still maintenance
we have 3 hours
aggh
we have 3 hours before the 1st extendo
so the idea is you get your KB to pop before they can get to the bottom of pillar
new arcane mage pov https://imgur.com/ccu7dbw
O_o 52% nerf?
doesnt Arcane pull same numbers with full spymasters?
aint no way. who said that
spoiler: it's fucking insane
A white name
i did tell that guy complaining the season was over yesterday to chill the fuck out
Idk
I think everyone uknowladges that already no? it's just frost has a better damage profile for m+ and had better damage on top
I'm sweating bullets, mid maintenance nerfs is crazy
i mean i'm not even sure that's true tbh
like
so unholy is so easy now actually
you scourge strike to apply a self buff of exsanguinate basically
fdk might be fine
then you hit abom and it puts on all your dots
and you hit epidemic until your face goes blue and you do a gorillion dmg
dracthyr rog gna be a good thing?
im curious how much of a nerf this is compared to live (becuase I assume these numbers are based on the ptr variant of dk which was accidentally buffed)
if you want
extra mastery/mobility lol
but then if the pack is still alive you can pop vile contagion? contagious taint? smelly taint? it's the one that looks like green corruption, to dupe your existing wounds/diseases from main target to cleave, and then you can pop wounds and press epi for another 30 seconds
like
also you can do all of this from ranged
wasn't rider like 2-3% behind deathbringer though
are sims updated for sin for the new patch ?
thanks
and fast frostwyrms
whatever they do to assa, I just hope they leave our AoE alone 🙏 please
and it's like 2.5 or something
but it can actually do more if you get lucky
with uhh trollbane? procs
they should nerf crimson tempest, so real spatter players can play
the one that does the dmg proc
and if you don't have to waste globals on pressing dnd cuz you get morgraine
literally fdk is fine
yeah thats what im seeing
Anyone got recommendations on wa to track the twist the knife envenom durations? Can you extend them via pandemic mechanic?
okay i played a key with double rider dk
the riders pull packs
that you're not fighting
sick
it's kinda funny
I didn't finish updating mine unfortunately
and then servers went down
but we'll have some eventually out there
I know others will probably make one, I'm working on one
we were doin grim batol lava room, and whitemane charged down the stairs 40 yards to pull the boss
it was fucking hilarious
It's mostly working now but I couldn't get it uploaded yet, and need to add supercharger support for the pandemic tick
we were already out of combat
And yes, the second stack pandemics into new stacks
like she just ran off
Does pandemic extension work on the envenom durations on ttf?
would be cool if rogue dragons while in stealth went on 4 legs
Like does it extend the buff with less duration each time?
Cuz iirc they are asynchronous buffs
i guess that's not weirder than liking feet
It takes the shorter buff (the second stack) and pandemics it onto your new stack
omg just like how I play the game normally
Are we going to put up both envenom stacks before we deathmark shiv kingsbane during opener?
So then if u always cast envenom in pandemic window it will always take whichever buff is in that window and add it on top of the new envenom buff
Frost dk got some of their discord channels locked until sims come in cause the dooming was so hard.
It will do this on any second stack you have active, yes. It takes from the second (shorter) stack
TLDR perfect assa rogue rotation upkeeps highest possible 2x envenom buff by envenoming only in pandemic (outside of burst)
they are so stupid
literally just play rider
it's insane
Well this place aint much better, tons of people dooming about the tea change all the time 
yeah i guess
Ain’t no way you don’t get as many envenoms out as you can? Really?
i guess if they hit deathstalkers really hard but fatebound was within 2% people would be dooming and someone on another discord would be saying they're so stupid just play fatebound

Idk what the energy generation will look like with changes and ttf and its interaction with our energy gaining mechanics but current live patch u cannot yolo send envenom and have 100% uptime in buff
Bruh what are these new M+ builds 
Blindside/cleave build but no bone spike
Bleed build but no blindside
Two of my fav abilities 
Atleast I can do iron wire now though
Ttf will net us higher energy gen but prob not enuf to just press muti muti envenom without pooling
Was anyone actually playing blindside with scent?
was anyone NOT playing iron wire? thats just trolling
Literally everyone till now 
Are yall gonna be waiting to take your vault item for raidbots to update or just rip it natty?
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
why is it when i cast a single rupture (the only combo spender) - above 5 cp, i get 4 hits of tail coin in details ? how does it work
starting every pack with it all silenced and doing less damage?
its hitting everyone in the pack?
single mob
and flipping twice from stealth
deathmark makes a double flip
i can smell the steel hammer coming
imagine not simming droptimizer via ptr sims

I hope lisonna is going to be able to update their WA package for twist the knife today, their pack is my favorite to use for rogue
na this was just ambush rupture, mob dead - but ya, it's a double flip
thanks
ur crazy for that
Don't do this to me
lol

tbh they ended up being pretty much exactly the same as the normal droptimizer sim
is that with new/changed talents?

i mean my gear is like, there's clear points of upgrade
Once servers go live I can brush up envenom and publish what I have but the rest of the pack isn't updated for supercharger/symbols charges/SnD purge. The envenom tick for pandemic won't account for supercharger points
We believe in you you have supernatural strength and talent
you can do it I have full confidence in you
I am willing to bet that all the devs are working pretty hard on that job they don’t get paid for….i have faith…and patience
It’s for love
where do we rank frost dk after recent nurfs?
Why do we care in the rogue discord?
It’s dead reroll ret

I'm glad that fdk got nerfed
are the fdk sims out yet
we care becuase all the fdk are re-rolling rogue
i've done an ai-powered mainframe simulation, frost are d-tier
So does that ST rotation change any with pandemic working with ttk? Or is it still same rules
it was kinda wild that arcane mage and fdk were both getting buffs
they are among us

because it feels like they always pick a frost dk over a rogue
Expect more deathstalkers, until they see fatebound does more damage
Fdk players rerolling rogue are in for a rude awakening when they start getting one shot by abilities in 12s
Who is this “they” ? Are they in the room now ?
Going from plate to leather 
maaaaaaaaaaybe
i assume people in lfg or something
I leveled a fdk to try it this expansion. Then got into the gameplay and was bored out of my mind
Don't know, don't care, just said
fdks dont know what getting one shot is
Yeah I tried to join DK discord to laugh and couldn't
Ok so we send everything with cds, not caring about clipping and shit and then go back to just use envenom only when it’s about to expire?
Snowflakes that cant handle nerfs
And do we do that every minute with KB?
I think it depends on how much energy gen we get but prob look to envenom in pandemic window for each buff with ttf
I’d be surprised if we don’t send on our 2m window
Question for the big rogue brains about Iron Wire (as Deathstalker).
It seems like we are opening from Stealth with Ambush to apply mark, without taking Subterfuge do we have to skip ambush to get the silence from Iron Wire and then wait to apply Mark through max cp Envintom?
Yes
Guys how is the patch affecting us as assassination % wise?
But then the question is do we pool prekb to make sure we have enuf energy
dunno
Omg juicy
def 6-7% tho
Cuz dm gives insane energy gen but kb alone doesn’t
sims are still janky
Is aoe affected?
I mean you kinda already did that no?
Bro send us some more screenshots 
no
U kinda did but idk to what level we have to pool now
envenom stacking up means more energy
ST is where we need love tho
should be fine to send
Last one cause there isnt much more since they got locked down
we are fine now
Could be bad take but I’m low key scared about getting 6% buff
Always best to be one below best so u don’t get nerfhammered
fdks are fine as well, bunch of fotm crybabies
We are built to cleave. No need to be good at everything
Iron Wire works with Imp Garrote 6 sec after breaking stealth
flensing knives * cough cough
you still open with Ambush
Oh boy updating guides is not gonna be fun
They nerfed our cleave tho so atleast they can pay up with some ST
they got cucked 20mins ago
when? you mean Spatter 45 -> 40% nerf?
tuning in past hour
lmao
Yeah not sure how much it will be tho. I’m like a orange parser but the 99/100 guys are built diffy so I’m gonna wait to yoink their logs and ctrlc ctrlv
Ye and blizzard realized buffing one of the best specs in the game by 8% was a silly idea, so they got a nerf
Yeah that’s our top1 dmg in cleave
Our overall never want down, ye they lowered the spatter number
it wasnt really a nerf
god i love fotm rage
They did compensate with 4pc tier buff
But we got bigger numbers on the things that spattered
is there an optimized M+ high key build yet
they mentioned it wasnt even supposed to be a buff
That’s true
because our ST dmg that cleaves got buffed, it was a very very minor nerf in AoE
wait
And it basically wasn’t a nerf bc of how spatter works
considering you should have at least 1 tea in cds, i dont see how you bottom out
but they hadnt opened the calculator yet
does cloak not work on necrotic wake first boss anymore
It does
Only first second
on the 1st second
use evasion
Let’s hope they forget us again after this buff
As in, i gotta press it giga late
yes
But ye evasion works oto
evasion works
Yo this thistle tea changes tho anyone else pissed at that
not what i asked ty
intervene works too
this looks a bit omnious though ngl
No, because it doesnt matter
no one likes it, no one asked for it
Yeah that’s fked
They got a last min nerf
wait is that some bug then or
yeah I just hope our AoE doesnt get nerfed. We got a 6% ST buff, they can nerf that a bit, but please just leave AoE alone
Ya but I’m bad
everyone makes mistakes
I dont remember having to cloak like that back in SL
I have a feeling rogues will be in a very good spot for like a week, then the nerf hammers will smite thy rogue.
So let me be bad without punishing me
Its not even punishing, its super mega minor
is that specifically for that ability or a cloak bug?
i just got deleted in a 13 because i thought i can just cloak kek
Cloak is stronger the first second, but usually it doesnt matter
Some rare cases where it does matter
supercloak is wild yeh

Wait did they patch nw first boss breath to bypass cloak?
I see I see
ya wont be laughing when the nerfs hit assa
rider will still blast though
like usually it's like if you get a debuff supercloak will have it not apply at all, compared to normal cloak dropping the debuff etc
i dont remember, was it like that back in SL too?
Nah
It usually happens when they re-add dungeons
doubt all you want
cause the lurkers act like animals when op spec gets touched
its been the case in a lot of re-added dungeons in DF too
the belching guy was always super cloak though, in stitchflesh room
like the last pack before the boss
speaking of rogue defensives, how is DR on evasion with elusiveness + bait and switch calculated? is it the value(.8)(.8)?
I remember this ye
Yes
do we know if they've fixed flensing knives existing
so I can go back to taking bait and switch
They hadnt on the ptr
So presumably no

Right now i don't think rogues need a nerf, but i dont know what it will look like when the changes go live.
wdym by supercloak
I'm so lost
the first second of cloak
the talent
well you are playing rogue, naturally you dont think they need one
kk
the first second of cloak
Soup or cloak
is more immune than others
wait wtf I never knew this
god I hate rogue defensives
kek
That's not true, i'm very aware when we need one. lol
ikr
Im having this lua error with whysper WA, dont know if you guys can help me solve it since I have 0 idea about was: 2x Lua error in aura '[LE] (Sin) Garrote': Trigger 3
WeakAuras Version: 5.17.2
Aura Version: 3.0.4
Stack trace:
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[string "return function() --For auras with infinite duration"]:58: in function <[string "return function() --For auras with infinite..."]:56>
[string "=(tail call)"]: ?
[string "=[C]"]: in function xpcall' [string "@WeakAuras/GenericTrigger.lua"]:672: in function <WeakAuras/GenericTrigger.lua:657> [string "@WeakAuras/GenericTrigger.lua"]:1008: in function ScanEventsWatchedTrigger'
[string "@WeakAuras/WeakAuras.lua"]:4838: in function SendDelayedWatchedTriggers' [string "@WeakAuras/WeakAuras.lua"]:4949: in function UpdatedTriggerState'
[string "@WeakAuras/GenericTrigger.lua"]:941: in function ScanEventsInternal' [string "@WeakAuras/GenericTrigger.lua"]:878: in function ScanEvents'
[string "@WeakAuras/Prototypes.lua"]:766: in function <WeakAuras/Prototypes.lua:728>
Locals:
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ts = <table> {
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snapNum = 1
(*temporary) = nil
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(*temporary) = "attempt to index field '' (a nil value)"
if ur super good at timing vanish it also works as a immune
unless they fixed that
huh
there's 2 threat drops
That has not been the case in ages
once on press when you acquire the debuff, and then again when the debuff expires
But yes back in the days it used to work like that
ok doom doom boy
why i said incase they fixed that am old dog rogue
Got fixed in like mop or something
you have to cloak preemptively Sikran's charge
you get no line if the boss targets you
but he still charges everyone
but you can cancel aura vanish to force out the second vanish instantly
so if you're trying to escape a truesight mob
not so much dooming, I think its rather realistic that we get a ST nerf
hope they murder enhance st by that logic
assassination rogue is balanced by the fact that for most encounters we don't have a real defensive
yes new partition
that's not an immunity
logs will def need to split
im suprised enh is dodging all the "tuning"
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What
Yo what do you guys mean by supercloak for NW boss? Can’t u just cloak and not take dmg from belch
wut
i swear
so many names that showed up in the last month with some REALLY "strong" opinions based on absolutely nothing, that say them as if they are some hard facts
what
its insane
You can in the first second
Anything after
cloak it as late as possible in the cast basically
How muich effort should wer be putting into staying above 50% energy for sanguine blades? Is it just an equip and forget or is there specific min maxing?
Is ur gonna get domed
im eating popcorn watching all this
if you go early you get owned
none at all, you ignore it
Super cloak is like actual invuln the first 1.ish seconds
my facts are right until they are wrong, then they change and become right again
Wait what I’ve literally done nw tens of times and never died to it and I never paid attention to the timing
Didn’t we (you and I) do this with rupture sniping 
leave @fathom cove out of it
If I cloak 2s before finish of cast I die?
KEKW
1.17 is a number that sticks in my mind, but it could also be misinformation
exactly 🙂
Just aim for 1s
yeh
All fun and giggles watching the nerfed specs discords going crazy but next week is our turn
Anyone have Euro/Aussie friends that play Saturday/Sunday Mornings (Morning from the US perspective)
Or proc cheat if you run it
Either way
Touché king
How has this literally never happened to me
thats just golden ratio
maybe
Belch is nature dmg and cloak is magic immune
Deathstalker turn
Yeah and I’m here to eat your ass
Is cloak shit
That’s how it was in sl
It definitely changed this tier
assa st damage too strong, lets nerf it but leave enhance alone 4Head
gotta learn someway, my method just happens to be commonly flawed

you're probably a toe sucker too
we're still up 6% right now
idk
still not even close to enh
enhance got buffed too
Either buff other classes
exactly lol
don't listen to the propaganda of "we're not sure"
enhance is seeing some changes
Nope, it'll be a deathstalker nerf cause fatebound underrepresented
"some changes" including an upward trajectory of simdps
Or nerf the top (us included at this point)
deathstalker = shitstalker
Quake are you ready for all the goobers crying about Mortimer forcing them to chug tea under 30 energy?
its so much fun when other discords become as unhinged as ours sometimes
When it actually happens
wait until this guy hears that fatebound is currently slightly ahead in damage
you need to go watch whispyr's newest rambling vid
leave us alone is just a way to (try and) keep a spec competitive with enhance
dudes are malding for no reason at all
ye and then in the next sentence its rng so big pass
ive never seen mage bad in a patch
It's always been , I parse 98-99
fatebound and deathstalker have always existed within like, a 1% diff iirc
i've got some bad news about parsing 99
less than that I think actually
!upgrade
Surely if its ahead you would be parsing 100 mate

!up
I relate more to deathstalker, i play if for the class fantasy
are yall ready for the fdk’s to reroll sin rogue and enhancement shaman?
Here it comes
and that remains true, fatebound is now just slightly ahead as of the last sims whispyr did
Man is not a gambler!!!
Fatebound is way ahead if you time your heads + sanguine blades in between cds
This guy is bound by fate 
N you flip lucky
Yeah…. Without TTK integration in the sims
i don't gamble when it comes to talking lives

This man gets it
with incomplete sims
yeah I'm aware
He can only lose 100%, the gains are infinite!!!!
Is it possible to take ttf, iron wire, and sudden demise in m+ tree
i'm gonna do a flip off a bridge
Front or back?
call it an edgy case
Boo
back flips are way cooler
make it a double
Any updates WAs?
he should flip in a mobius strip formation
I was about to ask if anyone has tried fatebound with twist the knife and realized that the maintenance does not end until 2 hours
team blizzard is blasting off again
Whispyr has not updated since the models change
Ok ty
why is Its over green
Unacceptable
yeah none of the WAs are updated yet
I mean
Keeps you on your toes
It’s also fine
It’s always over
I really hope my goat Lisonna can add the twist the knife implementation
Bad news pal
I like to play with my monitor off - get a feel for real gameplay
True true
true rogue moment

they already did this
it's called Caustic Spatter
the frost dk chat channel 
tbh true

they are dooming SO hard bro
sucide watch over there.
my little brother is a fdk and is already trying to doom
ye cool we already know it for like an hour
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
yeah seems like it
they believe they are "catching strays"
Nerfing one of the things that’s like miles ahead of a lot of classes still leaves them.. miles ahead
like
almost right at over twice the representation of the 2nd most ranked class
is it?
idk it’s crazy and kind of believable
yeah fdk is good in keys
"stray" is crazy
Yea it is
whack
breath just doesn’t stop
some keys even take two fdk
completely agree
busted shit
That was a Jordan graph and they’re usually pretty reliable on info
lol wtf
well it does, on average at 37 seconds into the pull
Can some1 send new notes?
Reminds me of people complaining about caustic spatter nerf, like as a whole it turned out to be a buff
in fact
Noted as additional fdk and arcane nerfs
tricks the tank, pull the whole dungeon
when you die, blame the healer
2800+?
cuz the variations of breath where it didn't stop were completely worthless in m+
I think it’s like 2859 rn

But don’t quote me
NA servers live?
No
no
no
2 more hours
No
5pm central
...
if no delays
I saw someone last night who was already 3k
like that is so insane to me
they go hard and fast
people are 3100+ already
I can barely keep up with mythic raiding
idk how people can push title
like it seems inhuman to me
keys are not the hard part
keeping a competent 5 stack with the same schedule is
i believe
Saw someone who got CE, title and glad in one season
they have no jobs
Some 3k1 in Q yeah.
Servers up
and I jkust assumed that they played 24/7
they play wow all day everyday
yeah like that has to be it
yea crazy people
but like how do they afford to play the game tho
Troll or?
boosting I guess
Yeah idk
In 2 hours

motherfucker
but that would mean they would also need to be pushing keys for hours on end
Love u

8’s and 10’s go for a lot
and also have the time to boost
rich parents, rich partners, welfare
so what is this 1% thing about anyway
fuck playing wow allday everyday id go insane
you need 2800 io ?
you don't have to be on a schedule to push title
theoretically do you think its possible to get title pugging?
me since tww release
atleast 5-6 hours
i mean it's literally been done by multiple ppl i know
i keep telling them they should play with teams
vault fillers raid loggers gang
because it's more fun
in comms sure
u just need an aoe stop rotation, and kick assigns


