assassination

[bright charm]

which is to say "no"

[kindred hinge]

12s are feasibl with cheat death but that put a lot of pressure on your heal

[half tartan]

does the elusiveness stack with the aoe portion of feint?

[cerulean walrus]

Yes

[half tartan]

20% total + 40% feint

[bleak spoke]

Not in the same hit

[cerulean walrus]

Cheat is a dead talent after it procs

[royal lantern]

thats not how it works

[cerulean walrus]

Oh you mean

Bro

What the

[royal lantern]

you dont get 60% dr lol

[cerulean walrus]

No not like that lmao

[half tartan]

it should be multi honestly

[little tulip]

it's been "useful" in the 4-5 10 pugs i've tried but i would turn it off for more dr stuff probably should switch honsetly

[eager gazelle]

that would be busted as hell lmao

[kindred hinge]

Elusiveness + Death stalker Evade + Feint is legit mini imune. You don't take damage. But feint is enough by itself usually

[eager gazelle]

60% dr on 15 sec cd

[bleak spoke]

It separates abilities to “works with 40%” and “works with 20%”

[cerulean walrus]

Yes

[half tartan]

140% * 120* == 168%

[cerulean walrus]

Bro what the

[half tartan]

just round it up to 170%

[bleak spoke]

I mean it’s actually just like the most average wall - 40%, like shield wall

[eager gazelle]

round it up to 200 honestly

[cerulean walrus]

Bro wants NO DAMAGE taken

[eager gazelle]

its an immune now

[kindred hinge]

Yeah mini immune

[eager gazelle]

imune with 15 sec cd and off the gcd and 2 charges

[kindred hinge]

40 dr is massive

[bleak spoke]

Well yeah, having a wall is good

[bright charm]

WoW if it was a playable game

[kindred hinge]

Not that it is usefull to stack them normally at least not yet if you are full

[half tartan]

they should make cloak 40 seconds

[bleak spoke]

But I wouldn’t compare it to an immunity

[half tartan]

like ams

[kindred hinge]

You lack the invulnerability to other stuff yes

[bleak spoke]

Should have given cloak cdr to long cloak

[royal lantern]

ah yes, the average mage deffensive talent

dont forget the 1min cd for that

[modern marten]

how do we manage the tea thing now as assa?

[native heron]

anyone going dracthyr rogue? lol

[kindred hinge]

Btw its not me right Evade stopped giving immunity to a lot of things no? I kinda remember being able to avoid a lot more stuff

[blissful pumice]

You guys think any items from the Blackrock Depths Raid tomorrow will be bis? xD

[bleak spoke]

Sorry which of the 5

[sharp viper]

no

[native heron]

it's automatic. there no managing it.

[modern marten]

hmmm

[bleak spoke]

Did you mean ice cold or alter or blink barrier or actual barrier or mass barrier or invis wall or greater invis wall or mirror images

[royal lantern]

the free one you get without any costs at all cus its conviniently placed in a way that you cant even skip it (i just made the number 4)

[bright tartan]

hoj bis because its cool

[bleak spoke]

Did I forget any

[gleaming geyser]

you can still press it; it just triggers at 30 if you get that low

[modern marten]

@faid but isnt that bad for us

[heavy canopy]

Don’t go below 30 energy when out of CD window

[native heron]

oh i guess i was unclear about that then.

ty!

[modern marten]

i think thats bullshit ^^

[royal lantern]

no, they all are kinda bad

[bleak spoke]

I played my freshly capped mage on lfr ovinax for 9 minutes without a healer yesterday, was 8 ppl alive starting from 2 mins into the fight, like wtf is that

[royal lantern]

if they had transmore, sure

but they dont, so its a big no for me

[bleak spoke]

Kek

[little tulip]

imagine it could be troll on trash mobs when ur trying to pool tea charges for a boss

but we're right behind ret on aoe so we probably need it

[deep gyro]

Is ret really that good?

[half tartan]

Whats the website that has the master list of enemy damage abilities you can reduce in dungeons?

[native heron]

I would love the option to play them and it not show weapons. so all you see is claws. that would be fuckin rad and id have so much fun with that

[bleak spoke]

Did you know you can break four casters out at the same time in different quadrants if everyone tries super hard @royal lantern

[slow echo]

@balmy condor The wowhead guide says: "Utilize Indiscriminate Carnage to help maintain enough energy for your rotation. This typically occurs at around 5-6 bleeds between both Garrote and Rupture". Do we stop applying rupture/garrote at 5-6 targets or if there's 9 mobs for example do we apply garrote/rupture to all 9 in the opener?

[bleak spoke]

[little tulip]

i mean it's np raid wcl and it's kinda hand wavey but okay

[drifting jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/no-pixels-cant-see-ben-chang-community-ken-jeong-gif-17361588

[molten echo]

You do not apply more once indiscriminate carnage falls off (in the opener)

[cobalt sphinx]

holy

why is that shit so blurry

[little tulip]

ur not worth 1080

[native heron]

LMAO

[drifting jetty]

idk man but im dying in laughter

i found that gif by accident

[cobalt sphinx]

wcl colored bars living in my walls

[native heron]

that is fuckin mean. hahaha

[little tulip]

[drifting jetty]

yo guys im a fellow outlaw and im done being a little sissy, how's assa going in terms of "fluid gameplay"?

[deep gyro]

But thats a specific fight when u said ret is better in aoe than rogue got confused. Cause not been my experience

[native heron]

no go back to outlaw pussy

[drifting jetty]

no

im done with outlaw

[native heron]

yes

then play ret

[bright charm]

nobody is ever done with outlaw

[drifting jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230008337517514772/1273720854383165601/dead-arms.gif

[native heron]

we dont need more assa gamers

[drifting jetty]

this is why im at outlaw

they killed my one true love

[stray fox]

So with ttk, the overlap time just gets added on to the last buff added? Sorry I read wowhead and didn’t get it

[little tulip]

longer pulls i think cause problems for ret

[drifting jetty]

but is it fluent to play

[little tulip]

but they also just lawnmower every pack

[coral ibex]

no, ttk just makes the buffs overlap

[deep gyro]

Lol. The other rogue in my guild did this

[little tulip]

we're about to do fort week..3? so just watch

[coral ibex]

like this

[stray fox]

Ohhh they stack

[deep gyro]

Fort week 3?

[eager gazelle]

hell yeah custom made ms paint guides

[stray fox]

So no change to uptime, but you blast harder in cds

[little tulip]

this week was tyrannical where the bosses are buffed and fortified is trash mobs are thicc

[coral ibex]

sims showing average uptime is like 150% or something

[deep gyro]

But in 10+ both are present so maybe u just trolling me.

[stray fox]

That means envenom always up and 50% of the time it’s overlapped?

[royal lantern]

what

[little tulip]

true i's a casual

[brazen fern]

Will there be any good BRD Anniversary Items, wich we should get? Havent found anything about it yet

[coral ibex]

not really, its just heroic gear

and nothing has mastery

[native heron]

t2 tmog.

[royal lantern]

it has nothing to do with mastery, but ok

sspread secondary stat missinformation :3

[bleak spoke]

Just complaining to complain while waiting for servers to come up

[royal lantern]

its normal at this point :3

[bleak spoke]

[coral ibex]

if you want to chase vers hero pieces be my guest

none of them sim better than stuff with mastery on it for me

[uneven plume]

Any idea how much % ST/M+ buff this is today?

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[uneven plume]

rough estimate

[royal lantern]

we literally have a bot command

for stats

but OK buddy

[vast loom]

if we press 3 envenoms would the 1st envenom get pandemic'd?

with ttk

[royal lantern]

6% st, 0% aoe

[limber lion]

Yes

[vast loom]

oooooh

neat

[uneven plume]

And M+ ST gets also 0% im assuming

[vast loom]

has there been an ability like this in the past? ironfur is close but it doesnt have a stack cap right

[limber lion]

Yeah Iron Fur is the closest

Nothing else works like it

[royal lantern]

ye basically cus you cant play ttk there

[vast loom]

LETS GO i like unique mechanics like this

[proper tapir]

M+ is at least +3% with the new subterfuge tech

[orchid wind]

the st buff is only for st builds right ?

[deep gyro]

?

[slate crown]

I'm glad it pandemics, otherwise very cringe clipping uptime

[uneven plume]

subt tech?

thought subt was still a dps loss

[vale shore]

yeah like 7%

[proper tapir]

Subterfuge tech #1065730164077645916 message

[royal lantern]

wait

so DOES it still pandemic, or does it NOT pandemic with TTK skilled

im confused now

stop confusing me

[cobalt sphinx]

it pandemics the older one when you have 2 stacks afaik

[slate crown]

When you have TTK

Yes

[uneven plume]

Do you have talent code to provde?

[royal lantern]

YES WHAT

[slate crown]

The second stack, the one that is shorter, the one you used first

That one pandemics

So

[stray fox]

Wait what the whispyr video says no pandemic on envenom

[sand briar]

There are 2 daggers with cantrips on them, and some melee trinkets but i havent heard if theyre good or not. Iirc the daggers dont have 2ndary stats

[slate crown]

was discovered after

[stray fox]

[static glacier]

they just announced world boss kazzak

worst news

[subtle tundra]

mr cook, GO IN THE KITCHEN NOW

[static glacier]

time to farm neck again zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[uneven plume]

I am not getting how this new supercharger works. So Basically we send envenom right after shiving?

regardless of cp?

[calm grail]

You just send it normally

Normally

[slate crown]

Basically when you cast envenom when you already have 2 stacks and envenom again, the time remaining on the second stack gets pandemiced on to the new stack you cast

[calm grail]

After shiving

[static glacier]

no, just play as if it doesn't exist

[royal lantern]

so basically the one with the lower timer

which like

makes sense

[slate crown]

yes

[uneven plume]

so its just a damage buff after shiv

[slate crown]

it makes sense

[royal lantern]

tbf

ttk also gives +2sec on envenom

[manic quartz]

anyone got good mouseover rupture macro?

[royal lantern]

so the timer is kinda long lol

[orchid knot]

I hate tea change!!!!!!!!!!! Whispyr the sim is playing to avoid tea you said it would be okay!!!!!!!!!! THE GAME SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

[vast loom]

can you explain how that works in plain non apl speech lol

[proper tapir]

talents=CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAzmxsNDAAAAAAttNzM8AzMGzMzysMmZwMzYGMmZbbZMDwmZZgBsEsMMBGWA

The gains are probably not in simc yet

[native heron]

thats for m+?

sorry i is dumb af

[stable cove]

so do we just spam envenoms now or just keep 2 up at a time?

[proper tapir]

You just do Vanish for MA during the last 12 sec on KB (we used to do this, just like before but now 12 secs) . Other than that just try to keep imp Garrote up when you can, use Gar in the last 3 seconds of the imp Garrote buff.

[little tulip]

so echoing reprimand is totally out?

like 100 dollars gone from the game

[native heron]

yes

[vast loom]

well technically

there is a talent called echoing repremand

[cobalt sphinx]

subterfuge and still no shadowrunner

[slate crown]

There is still a spell that has the name.

If that scares you I'm sorry

[little tulip]

i liked er

[slate crown]

Same

and now I'll never press it again

[thorn fjord]

Never say never

[woven shore]

when is game up

[thorn fjord]

Never

[slate crown]

TWW Classic when?

[thorn fjord]

[slate crown]

shadowlands classic

[fallow marsh]

i mean the changes seem like an overall win even if they are not the overall answer. We can probably macro shiv and tea now without much consequence. Opener is streamlined and the rotation pretty much stays the same

[vast loom]

im gonna guess like 6hours from now lol

[drowsy hatch]

Mr Blizzard just called me personally and said the patch isn't coming out. Sorry guys.

[hardy bough]

Hi ! Fairly new rogue here - im noticing ppl on top logs are using Fan of Knives in ST - is that to get uptime on Momentum of despair? not mentioned in WoWhead guides

[drowsy hatch]

Game's over

[spice surge]

its for clear the witnesses

[slate crown]

sounds good I'm free

[spice surge]

And it is mentioned in the wowhead guide

[robust axle]

Opener is the same pretty much

[fallow marsh]

yup

[zenith tree]

ER was great, saved me from so many situations where envenom would fall off too quickly.

I only realized how much it was saving me this last week 😔

[hardy bough]

Ah, so straight after DM, use 1 Fan? or is it with every stack of DM?

[slate crown]

I've been singing its praises for months

[spice surge]

When clear the witnesses is up

[little tulip]

it did feel kinda mid using an er charge to refresh rupture maybe it's not all bad

[coral ibex]

ER was awesome, RIP ER

[hardy bough]

Well.. Clear the Witness gets trickered by Fan of knifes if a DM is active right?

[coral ibex]

ER smoothed bad seal fate procs

[fringe oxide]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[little tulip]

it's already been simmed as not good anymore tho right

lmao

[spice surge]

I have no idea what youre asking

[slate crown]

I mean it just does something different now

[spice surge]

There is no more thought behind it except "if clear the witnesses is up then you use fok"

[deep gyro]

Once u apply ur mark u get a buff for fok. Press

[cloud yew]

are there gonna be any st builds without master assassin.. i suck and let mark drops sometimes on bosses like court so i like to save vanish for reapplying. i know vicious venoms is counterproductive to new twist the knife. git gud angle?

[glacial crypt]

let them cook i want to see what they do

[slow snow]

wait what is this clear the witness?

[stray fox]

So ST in new patch is generating more energy which basically makes pooling / pandemic pointless?

[deep gyro]

So many new rogues ….

[primal karma]

Does anyone have the old M+ talents that arent updated to the 11.05?

[drowsy hatch]

hero talent left tree top point, fok does double dmg and extra combo point

[coral ibex]

probably a skill issue angle yea, just pay attention to your mark or play fatebound for those fights

[zenith tree]

Clear the Witness procs after Darkest Night applies Death Mark or Amush from Stealth right?

[cloud yew]

thanks, figured as much

[deep gyro]

Both WHENEVER U APPLY MARK. Be it ambush or dn

[normal mist]

CMQA27SZpS4XnmFfcXRqkppuwPjZmZGmxyMAAAAAAMLw2MAAAAAA022MzwDMzYMzMLz2YMYmZmZwMzsttMmBYzsMwAWCWGmADLA

[glacial crypt]

WE'RE FOTM IT'S EXCITING

[normal mist]

hybrid

[glacial crypt]

We get new people to yap with

[slow snow]

oh wow so even in ST you throw out a FoK, I had no idea

[coral ibex]

like it sucks to drop your mark but that's just the skill gap

[lethal arrow]

Court just requires some practice, once you get the timing down on when they swap you can kinda preemptively set up mark swaps

[bitter lance]

I was looking at the black rock depths gear that drops, is any of the special equipment worth using?

[coral ibex]

a build without MA would just be a loss comparatively

[drowsy hatch]

negative

[primal karma]

Tyyyy

[bitter lance]

Thank you thats what I figured

[eager gazelle]

it is a tragedy that we have an ability called deathmark and a hero talent called deathstalker's mark

all these new guys are getting confused by the acronyms

[glacial crypt]

we get marked for death back soon 🙏

confuse people even more

[slow snow]

cant we call deathstalkers DSM?

[lethal arrow]

we do

[deep gyro]

Thats what people do

[slow snow]

oh lol

[lethal arrow]

but ppl ask what dsm is

[royal lantern]

and that we have a capstone called DN

[lethal arrow]

then we tell them and they say oh deathmark?

[royal lantern]

[young dust]

separated by a stalker

[little tulip]

sorry dn is also a funny joke in the source community

we also have +fox 😒

[glacial crypt]

the what

[little tulip]

nothin

[glacial crypt]

im googling source community

[sand briar]

Does anyone know if the daggers from brd are in raidbots yet?

[spice spire]

Mfd for your final dsm during dm god bless

[glacial crypt]

exactly

[spice spire]

Love death marks

Of all kinds

[lethal arrow]

they should bring it back after taking out all these buttons

[spice spire]

[lethal arrow]

kinda miss MFD

[spice spire]

Add more buttons to replace the old

[lethal arrow]

lets bring back burst of speed while we're at it

[glacial crypt]

it should be on the front page of raidbots when it happens

Marked for death was the best thing 😭

I miss Mfd breath outlaw during corruption season

[grim jay]

can you mfd dn

[glacial crypt]

you totally can

wait a minute..

[lethal arrow]

it would only make sense

[spice spire]

It adds 5 so I’m not sure why you couldn’t during darkest night

[cloud yew]

so why ISNT fatebound the new recommended tree for pure st? i understand they are remarkably close and you lose defensives, but for pure throughput?

[nova aspen]

what's dn?

[glacial crypt]

[lethal arrow]

rng :^)

and also cuz DSM is way more fun

[glacial crypt]

marking > coin flipping

[grim jay]

so we would need to play without both stratagem talents, gotcha

[bright charm]

uhhh because deathstalker is cooler?

[left moth]

how can simc for know my AOE in m+??

[spice spire]

Yeah you can strategize deez nuts pal

[glacial crypt]

my IMMERSION

[grim jay]

dont dare me

[vast loom]

dungeonslice sim setting is best bet

[royal lantern]

who the fuck wants to flip coins

like srsly

[spice spire]

I didn’t dare

[glacial crypt]

go into your m+ talents and gearset, select dungeon slice in the sim options at the bottom

[spice spire]

I implored

[winged sun]

Hi

I can play everyday in 1.5 weeks

[left moth]

insane ty!

[grim jay]

flipping sucks, more rng sucks, switching between hero trees for bosses sucks and you all forget the 2% of the flensing bug

[spice spire]

Wb big dog

[glacial crypt]

massive go on

[winged sun]

Ty ty

[spice spire]

Already got the Tom and Jerry pfp so he’s ramping

[winged sun]

Still 4-5 am morning schedule but better than nothing

[worthy lintel]

So roughly 6% buff?

[winged sun]

Ya im climbing my way back up

[spice spire]

St

[winged sun]

guys kingsbane st does aoe too right?

[keen spruce]

nerf in AoE cuz everyone is gonna see top rogues taking 17 second silences with subterfuge and grief their damage

[cloud yew]

with spatter yea

[safe shale]

Anyone actually seen any examples of the new m+ build in action on higher keys? Feel its super dungeon reliant

[cobalt sphinx]

the what

[winged sun]

I need to learn everything i need to get r1 logs gonna have to read guides more or someshit

[cloud yew]

go hit training dummies for 10 hours

[spice spire]

The one for the new patch today? That isn’t released for another 5 hours for NA?

[cobalt sphinx]

guy is trying to expose time travelers

[winged sun]

Nah m+ super high keys spam does it better

[keen spruce]

you'll always be a r1 pirate in my heart

[bright charm]

he'll never catch me

[winged sun]

Cuz its like, harder than mythic raid prog mostly

[winged sun]

[little tulip]

man dslice says 1.3m and i'm maybe 1.15-1.2 cause the pulls aren't fat

l ife hard

[tender sluice]

Hello there! Im looking for someone who is willing to help me out. Im kinda new to playing rouge and maybe im not the best at all in the way to understand how he works (rotation especially in M+). So if u have the time to help me, just write a DM 🙂 Thanks!

[frosty bridge]

Ask here, dont make people DM you, people will help you out

[blazing plaza]

anyone knows if dracthyr will be a dps increase for assa ?

[spice surge]

No

[eager gazelle]

dragon will be a dps decrease because they look ugly and ugly is a dps loss, look good feel good play good

[spice surge]

Its very mid for dps, roughly as good as belf/goblin/all the other 1% stat races

[slim pebble]

Your mog will look better and that’s a dps increase

[spice spire]

It’s no mechagnome that’s for sure

[blazing plaza]

im mechagnome atm so...

[vale shore]

first, make sure you can spell the class correctly

[eager gazelle]

ok in that case maybe it is an increase

[spice surge]

The gnome mafia is coming for me

[tender sluice]

Ouch, I will improve.

[spice spire]

[vale shore]

pushing the right buttons in the correct order on your keyboard is a MUST to doing good dps

[grim jay]

the new m+ build is the old m+ build, idk

[thorn fjord]

[spice spire]

Eleem dirty race changer for boss

[bleak spoke]

i might literally the rogue i'm playing this tier to belf, which would be the same as my main rogue

[native heron]

Don’t troll the man like that. Those lizard people are ugly as fuck. Lol

[spice spire]

Old eleem would never roll off panda

[little tulip]

[thorn fjord]

Pandas are too chunky

[slim pebble]

Fem dracthyr are just fem human in visage form

[bleak spoke]

i'm so ugly i can't focus

[spice surge]

Idk id rather not tbh, even if they pay for it

[tender sluice]

Thats why im here cause I want to learn.

[vale shore]

read whispyr's guide on wowhead

[shy pecan]

wdym pandas are too chunky

[little tulip]

if you don't wanna yap too much you can watch whispyr's youtube guides but there's lot of questions we can answer

[thorn fjord]

[little tulip]

like you know which poptart flavor is objectively best

which is blueberry or cherry

[thorn fjord]

Plain baby plain

[vale shore]

its cherry, and its not even close

[grim jay]

the question is if they pay for the damage to your eyes aswell

[deep gyro]

Wild berry

[thorn fjord]

Toaster strudels

[spice spire]

Mfs forget brown sugar and cinnamon exists or?

[bright charm]

wrong

[bleak spoke]

this is the actual correct answer

[feral mesa]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[slate crown]

!guide Resources are here, if you have specific questions about a part of it feel free to ask. Welcome

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[bright charm]

thats what im saying

[vale shore]

I always associate that one with MRE's

[tender sluice]

I've tried it out to watch some Guides also that one on Wowhead you guys talked about but it seems its kinda hard to understand for me. I will take a look again, if there are any more questions I will come back 🙂

[tender sluice]

Thank you!

[spice spire]

Why

[knotty rose]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

That’s an honest question btw

[bright charm]

one time i was at the store in the aisle to buy poptarts and one of the employees stepped on a thumb tack and screamed "YOWCH" like straight out of tom and jerry. It was like a 1:1 recreation of Tom screaming Yowch. It was very impressive.

[vale shore]

You keep garrote and rupture up, eviscerate at high combo points, dodge mechanics. play around deathstalker's mark or just ignore the flipping of coins

stack your cooldowns

[thorn fjord]

Eviscerate?

[native heron]

Lmao

[bright charm]

not in this house

[vale shore]

envenom

[woven shore]

should servers be up already?

[vale shore]

thats how longive been playing rogue

[vast loom]

no

[native heron]

How dare you
Call yourself a assa player after that.

[eager gazelle]

nah we got turbo maintance today

[native heron]

Take it off now

[bright charm]

no son of mine is gonna be castin eviscerate

[vast loom]

you got like 4 hours before the scheduled up time

[spice spire]

Old

[vale shore]

Its NOT a phase, dad!

[woven shore]

7am is 9 hours infront of me

its 19:43

[vast loom]

are you EU?

[woven shore]

oh

ye

wait

[native heron]

lol

[vast loom]

servers arnt even down yet for you lol

[woven shore]

dont tell me

maintance

is until 2am

[native heron]

Go away Chad

[vale shore]

the last three instances of extended maintenance were extended twice

[woven shore]

no

im eu

but play on us

[spice spire]

Maintenance for us is until 3PM PDT

[vast loom]

oh yeah

[bleak spoke]

oh yeah this one's pretty bad

[vast loom]

then 2am uptime for you

[spice spire]

When it’s usually what

8am

[eager gazelle]

yes, very long maintanance today

[bleak spoke]

download up though

375mb

[woven shore]

wtf do i really have to wait

[spice spire]

Oh shit good shout

[vale shore]

they have to pull the servers off the racks, blow them off, then replace them

[woven shore]

4 fucking hours

[eager gazelle]

when you add in the delays that are coming, it might be back up by the weekend

[bright charm]

looking forward to playing the update on thursday when they finally finish maintenance

[woven shore]

to open my vault

[native heron]

Did you by chance play tarisland?

[bleak spoke]

i'm betting on 3 hour extend as well tbh

[spice spire]

[woven shore]

dont say that

[thorn fjord]

I hope not

[bleak spoke]

i really hope not

[woven shore]

please god

[vast loom]

my guild was taking bets on if we will even get to raid tonight

[bleak spoke]

but like

[woven shore]

give me the Mythic Sikram Neck

[bleak spoke]

man there are lots of bugs man

[half tartan]

Can I be a dragon rogue yall think its worth it

[woven shore]

or mythic Dagger

from Bloodhound

[half tartan]

Evokah

[bleak spoke]

@half tartan no?

[half tartan]

Drakyr

[bleak spoke]

but if you like it yeah?

[vale shore]

your one mythic slot will be taken by Mistcaller Ocarina and you will like it!

[thorn fjord]

I don’t even know how to play going in to this new patch

[stray adder]

W flute

[bright charm]

if you like to do cat claw poses in front of the mirror yes

[eager gazelle]

imagine only doing 1 +10

can't be me

[native heron]

That’s a fuckin curse. Haha

[eager gazelle]

(i did 4)

[half tartan]

I like to dress up like a dragon for my boyfriend

[deep gyro]

Ocarina kind of big

[bright charm]

then dracthyr is perfect for you

[bleak spoke]

manifesting a grim batol trinket out of vault for @balmy condor tbh

[vast loom]

[swift wing]

doing this for myself

wish me luck

[bleak spoke]

@half tartan ah you're who the last expac was made for

[native heron]

I just want my mog to look cool.

[forest nacelle]

i wonder if dracthry and gliding will break stealth......

[bright charm]

don't we all

[vale shore]

stealth gliding? did dracthyr rogues just break Arathi Basin?

[native heron]

I get so frustrated with sometimes I just end up making my dwarf naked. Lol

[forest nacelle]

bruh if its real.

then arathi is broken

[slate crown]

? coudln't you

already glider

[bright charm]

huh that's true now i gotta make a dracthyr rogue first thing to test it out

[slate crown]

Like jump glide then stealth?

[forest nacelle]

different activation

one is an item

[native heron]

No wayyyy

[marble prism]

Hey! Question for anyone who might be able to answer. With us going a bigger focus on critting with Master Assassin and losing Viscious Venoms, will we still be a bit mastery skewed as we are now or focusing others stats?

[slate crown]

Sure

[stray adder]

that feeling when you start cooking a mog and realize it looks like shit after you spent 10 minutes on it

[forest nacelle]

the other is spacebar

[slate crown]

But you can get the items for dirt cheap

[native heron]

But maybe

[bright charm]

aint that the truth

[forest nacelle]

but on demand gliding is going to be LIT

[coral ibex]

does evo glide cancel the ansurek pulls?

[slate crown]

Yeah, I get that, it's slower than a glider but it's also 0 cd

[native heron]

I’ll just make a dragon rogue alt haha

[vale shore]

no, and without friction with the ground, you get yanked right into her mouth

[subtle tundra]

nothing changes stat wise

[little tulip]

i like bandaged feets from legion but
no

[subtle tundra]

actually crit loses some value cause of MA

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/you-died-cat-comedy-funny-shaky-cat-crawling-cat-gif-21392489

[forest nacelle]

yeah, still faster to stealth run. but i just want it for the attack animations

[chilly spear]

Anything worth farming brd for? Those daggers sound kinda neat but no secondaries.

[native heron]

T2

[normal mist]

not really

[stray adder]

you farm BRD for boomer nostalgia procs

[bright charm]

farm BRD to yell at guildies

[forest nacelle]

damn beat me too it

[vale shore]

"ironfoe used to proc windfury by itself"
okay grandma, lets get you to bed

[bright charm]

"back in my day it was called combat"

[proper aurora]

Hi guys! Im new as assa rogue :D, im not really good using raidbot. Someone has some guide for setup it to understand better items to drop?

[native heron]

I still say that sometimes…

[vale shore]

You assassination, subtlety, or combat?
"Well, I have points in all the trees"

[stray adder]

it's a good way to cope with whatever outlaw is

[native heron]

I hate everything g about outlaw

[white lance]

what in the world is up with that cat

[stray adder]

keep saying combat

[hollow stone]

outlaw is better than combat ever was

[stray adder]

thats not the question

little pirate

[hollow stone]

who the hell wants to push sinstrike 4 times

[vale shore]

guns make the best swords

[bright charm]

i do miss combat but i think outlaw is better in almost every way

cold take i know

[bleak spoke]

idk seli explained wod combat to me the other day with guile charm and that sounded really fun

[hollow stone]

only thing ppl really miss is toggle-able flurry

[forest nacelle]

remember when assa spec was called the "Mut Spec"

[hollow stone]

and… fair

[little tulip]

twist the knife is super cool

[forest nacelle]

becouse it was all mutilate

[vale shore]

I played assassin before there was mutilate!

[forest nacelle]

before BC?

[vale shore]

yup!

[slate crown]

!simguide

[prisma monolith]

Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

[forest nacelle]

i started my rogue in BC

but my huntard was my first.

[manic coral]

is there any sims out yet for the new raid

[bleak spoke]

sometimes i think of how much i would not play the game if i had to make my own thistle tea for encounters

[vale shore]

of course back then, "Combat Dagger" was the easiest way to top dps meters

[bleak spoke]

i think i would 100% not play

[forest nacelle]

yea good times

[hollow stone]

fem NE hunters rise up uwu

[winged sun]

Why is it fok then mutilate?

[tiny apex]

any ideas on how to spend energy without proccing thistle? or do you just send that shit

[native heron]

I played a rogue back before bc but was to young to know what the fuck I was doing lol

[bleak spoke]

muti for caustic spatter application

fok to get combo points

[forest nacelle]

i was an orc survival at the time, trap master.

[vale shore]

no one knew what they were doing back then

[hollow stone]

oh danggggg

[winged sun]

Why not muti then get combo

I dont get it

[vale shore]

Ragnaros took 40 people to down, then it turned out only about 10 of them needed to be actually awake

[native heron]

Fair enough. Haha

[stray adder]

do i miss pre-melee surv

[eager condor]

clear the witnesses

[forest nacelle]

thats the past tho.

[bleak spoke]

cuz your energy comes from bleed ticks on poisoned targets

[thorn fjord]

So opener and rotation is basically the same sans not casting snd and making sure the next two envenoms after shiv are full cp?

[valid slate]

Does the 11.05 change modify our current rotation

[vast loom]

i think that FoK has clear the witness proc active from DM

[cobalt sphinx]

probably just an error

[bleak spoke]

it is not an error

[winged sun]

Oh thats more prio than caustic spatter?

[coral ibex]

this is why you fok first

[winged sun]

Interesting

[stray adder]

there is no error, we lost ER so we need a cp builder

[vast loom]

i assume it probably doesnt matter that much

[bleak spoke]

this is part of the basic loop of the spec in aoe

[forest nacelle]

looks like WoWhead has been updated for 11.0.5 btw

[bleak spoke]

you need to poison stuff to get energy from them

[winged sun]

Tf does FoK have to do with it

[vale shore]

I am still sticking with fatebound in all likelyhood

[cobalt sphinx]

isn't this on pull? don't you have like 400 energy

[coral ibex]

fok spreads poisons

???

hello

[bleak spoke]

okay how are you poisoning stuff that you've bled with IC

if you don't hit fok

[wise whale]

hello

[coral ibex]

[slim pebble]

Oh the pre patch mald. I was waiting for this

[forest nacelle]

same, i target swap too much in AoE >.< and in ST i do like DS, but only on pure ST.

[winged sun]

Caustic spatter isnt more important to drop on first ya?

[pliant silo]

Delaying the mutilate one global lets you spend more time spattering with fan envenom without mutilating again

[young dust]

do you apply poisons on your daggers??

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/hUiUFz4.png

[thorn fjord]

[native heron]

It’s a dps loss if you do.

[vale shore]

hey guys. how do I get rid of this dumb message I get when I envenom that says I dont have deadly poison equipped?

[wise whale]

apply poison irl

[thorn fjord]

Bump

[coral ibex]

apply a deadly poison

[stray adder]

permanent poisons when?

[pseudo cosmos]

so were fatebound enjoyers now or what

[vast loom]

i dont think it matters much on how you spend CP after Shiv just the same finish on 5+, its just always +3

[vale shore]

I am

[vast loom]

and CP is linear

[normal mist]

whatever floats your boat

[vale shore]

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-dent-coin-flip-two-face-batman-coin-gif-9698651

[forest nacelle]

fatebound's mascot

[thorn fjord]

7+3 is better than 5 or 6 +3 tho no?

[hollow stone]

leave the coins to the pirates

[bleak spoke]

i think this is only consequential depending on combo point generation rng probably? you're gonna have to muti once in your cds no matter what because KB is 14 seconds

[pseudo cosmos]

nvm i heard rng back to deathstalker

[vast loom]

not if you wasted CP to get to 7

[wise whale]

fatebound🤮

[vale shore]

they are rolling dice, statistically, a coin flip is more likely to win

[thorn fjord]

True

[bleak spoke]

the natural feeling way i play it, which is probably wrong according to sims is if i ever have a TDN proc and i'm at 5 combo ponits that's when i'll refresh my spatter because i don't want to hit fok get unlucky and lose my shit

[stray adder]

10cp envenom gonna hit for 20m

[winged sun]

Brother there isnt even any envenom on the opener on that list anyway

[bleak spoke]

but with supercharger it won't be a problem

[vale shore]

6 million, maybe, during a double damage phase

[forest nacelle]

i can't tell you how many CP i waste using DS by going over 7CP from using a mutilate at 6CP >.<

[winged sun]

I got like

5 answers for one question

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/zky8DwF.png

[cinder quartz]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[thorn fjord]

I’m not a huge fan of this layout tbh hehe

[stray adder]

bro did not look at the image at all

[thorn fjord]

Gonna send whispyr pictures of my toes

[hollow stone]

I do like fatebound but its hard to deny the funnel dam from stalker

[bleak spoke]

yeah idk, if i have supercharger and 6, i'm just finishing, no matter what the actual rules are i literally can't be asked

[spice spire]

Need maintenance to finish early

[eager gazelle]

I am going to miss having darkest night and echoing rep up and going from 2 to 6 combo points when I press mutilate

[spice spire]

Y’all wilding today

[raven egret]

DiD SomEOnE SaY -FUnNeL-!!!

[eager gazelle]

felt like a real nut punch every time

[forest nacelle]

but for Nightstalker you NEED 7

its called night stalker right?

[spice spire]

But for huh

No

[forest nacelle]

fml i odn't play DS

[hollow stone]

Bowbowbowbowwwww thats the word of the day!!

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/Xsh0POk.png well funny thing

[vast loom]

4+3=7 🙂

[past panther]

well be lucky to raid tonight you know maintenance is gonna be extended several times

[spice spire]

Darkest night

[bleak spoke]

you actually spend 8

[bright charm]

man i NEED to farm that bloodfang remake NOW

[vale shore]

damn, there used to be a gif of Xal's feet

[bleak spoke]

if you send at 6

with supercharger up

[slate crown]

what's that

[forest nacelle]

oh Darkest night yeah

that thing

ok

[spice spire]

I don’t have a gif but I have a png

[spice spire]

Capstone of hero talent silly

[cloud basin]

gonna take like 2-3 weeks to get the first set of armor lol

[bright charm]

only

[subtle tundra]

thanks for the feet

[bleak spoke]

NO I DIDN'T SAVE IT IN TIME DOZ

[eager gazelle]

I saw it

too late

[spice spire]

@ember mural hUH

[young dust]

5+C=8
C=3

[eager gazelle]

I already saw it

[forest nacelle]

DAMN IT

[spice spire]

On your birthday big dog

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah the APL fans at 6 cp to dn envenom before applying spatter, i'm curious if that's even correct

[past panther]

cannot send message to this user

[bleak spoke]

wait link the sim

that sounds crazy

[forest nacelle]

so with super charger, how does it work.... same as ER but baked into shiv?

[hollow stone]

iirc thats energy related???

I could be talking out my ass

[bleak spoke]

when you shiv, yoru next two finishers have +2 combo point value

very simple

[vast loom]

next finish gets +2/3 CP thats it

[vale shore]

it adds two or three points to your next finisher

[spice spire]

Anyway this is the Armin png

[wise whale]

HAAHHAHAH

[forest nacelle]

so ER backed into shiv got it.

[young dust]

I always thought so

[forest nacelle]

wait

no

[bright charm]

gotta remember what im fighting for

[forest nacelle]

wut

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/Q62fprw.png

[eager gazelle]

do we know if darkest night will count on 8 and 9 CPs?

[forest nacelle]

fml did i read that?

[bleak spoke]

works with 7,8,9,10

[spice spire]

Yes

[spice surge]

Yes

[forest nacelle]

thats nuts

[ember mural]

for free???

[vast loom]

as long as your total is 7 or bigger

[spice surge]

It also works if youre at 4 cp

[bleak spoke]

^

is that actually a gain

[wise whale]

inches or cm?

[spice spire]

Brother I was pinged 3 times about this one

[spice surge]

No

[bleak spoke]

spending at 4 sounds a lil bad

[spice surge]

Or well, it doesnt really matter

[bleak spoke]

yeah

it doesn't

[spice surge]

In simc it was the same

[coral ibex]

i thought supercharger was only +2 and the additional node gave you 3 charges of it

[bleak spoke]

but i want see big number

[spice spire]

Outside of dn it’s fine right

[hallow pelican]

how the fuck is frost and elemental getting those ridiculous buffs?

[coral ibex]

how do you get 10cp

[cobalt sphinx]

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kjC9KWpKgDn81bQhTaRtZA/simc

[bleak spoke]

well, in DN if you have forced induction 4 is 7

[vast loom]

simplest would probably just always finish at 5+

[vale shore]

why have a 7cp envenom when you can have a 10?

[bleak spoke]

bro what do you think ambush does

[spice spire]

Then yeah I see nothing wrong

[young dust]

what about arcane...

[vale shore]

enhancement I am actually low-key excited for

[cobalt sphinx]

that's an ambush from stealth before applying rupture

[bleak spoke]

tbh finish at 4 is probably correct because pressing fok probably wastes combo points

with supercharger and tdn

[coral ibex]

oh forced induction is additional cp i see, i thought it was additional charges

[hallow pelican]

the most unencessary buffs ever. arcane is getting an extra 12% ... thats fuckin bananas

[half tartan]

which CPs get animacharged with shiv? Can it be any of them or only 4+

[spice surge]

None/all

It doesnt work like that anymore

[coral ibex]

any finisher gets +2/3 cp added

[spice spire]

What’s tdn

[bleak spoke]

the darkest night

the reapplication of the mark

[young dust]

blizzard proving once again that mages are the MCs of the WoW anime

[bleak spoke]

the crit envenom cashout to your hero talent?

the capstone node of your tree?

[vale shore]

just flip more coins

[spice spire]

It’s actually trim deez nuts

[cobalt sphinx]

you are getting owned by makeitquake

[bleak spoke]

NO I'VE BEEN HAD

[vale shore]

its less stressful and you do about the same damage

[spice spire]

[bleak spoke]

curse you pepsi etc

[spice spire]

Not even Pepsi anymore smh

[raven egret]

OVer my dead body

[bleak spoke]

i am literally making pilk right now out of spite

[bright charm]

maybe the mage characters shouldnt be the coolest ones idk

[spice surge]

Ok DR. Pepper

[coral ibex]

why is the talent calc saying you need level 72 for this tree

[spice spire]

I hate you

[coral ibex]

[tacit mauve]

U spent 32 of 31 pts

[spice surge]

It just bugs out

[cobalt sphinx]

supercharger is 2 points where ER was 1

[bleak spoke]

it's a lil bricked because the tree changed but the point assignments are like based off of the share code hash

[coral ibex]

this is the wowhead linked tree

ah ok

[bleak spoke]

if you look on spec tree you have a free point in lethality that doesn't exist

[young dust]

im scared of how much my UI is gonna break with this patch

[coral ibex]

i just gotta figure out how to fix my envenom timer

[bleak spoke]

i don't expect it to

i'm gonna wait for some weakaura with like 2 bars or something

[young dust]

nono talking about elvUI

thats gonna break for sure

[bleak spoke]

oh

[spice surge]

I read this as "sprite" and was confused

[bleak spoke]

yeah i mean go to the website there's probably an update already

[bleak spoke]

that might own too will try that

[coral ibex]

you can't make pilk from sprite its impossible

[rustic zealot]

Guys, somone have done the sims for BRD Trinkets/Weapons?

[thorn fjord]

I don’t do coke I do Pepsi

[bleak spoke]

sprilk

[spice surge]

Sprilk

[vale shore]

they suck for all but alts

unless the best you have is Mistcaller Ocarina

[bleak spoke]

the dagger might be like equivalent on ilevel

[hallow pelican]

@balmy condor has and he's apparently unimpressed

[bleak spoke]

the fire one, not the barman shanker

the fire one just procs for more dmg

[thorn fjord]

@spice surge can we use a devo stone on you

[pseudo cosmos]

none of the items have mastery

[hallow pelican]

and shanker isnt affected by rogue talents apparently

[pseudo cosmos]

all dog bad

[spice surge]

[spice surge]

It shouldnt be

[bleak spoke]

some of our tier pieces don't have mastery but we still wear them, curious

[young dust]

BRD just for tokens

[vale shore]

man I wish I could have gotten Wrath Stone from timewalking two weeks ago, that trinket was nuts at 610 ilvl

[bleak spoke]

🙄

[spice surge]

But yes, none of the BRD items are particularly interesting

[hallow pelican]

which makes it bad

[spice spire]

Really makes you think

[bleak spoke]

in a way, we rpoabbly don't want them to actually be good

cuz like

[forest nacelle]

i have it on my DH, but guess what, its trash for DH XD

or atleast from the trinkets i had

[bleak spoke]

remember that necklace from kazzak or whatever

[vale shore]

12k agility on a two minute cd is trash for a dh?

[bleak spoke]

sometime in dragonflight

that was fried

the one that did fire dmg procs or whatever

[forest nacelle]

i have mandate/the trinket+weapon combo from pinccess

[bleak spoke]

i think it was only best for outlaw?

but still

that's kinda weird

[vale shore]

I have a 619 imperfect ascendancy serum, its got a 3 second cast time for 6k agility

[young dust]

bold of you to assume blizzard knew mastery was our BiS when they were designed

[pseudo cosmos]

ofc but unless ur gonna gimp urself u do u

[bleak spoke]

i think you're missing the point here

[pseudo cosmos]

ofc just cause its not got mastery on it unless ur gonna drop some of ur set - kek what you gonna swap

[deep gyro]

I feel like there has been no point in the past couple of minutes here

[bleak spoke]

the point is that mastery isn't the sole determining factor as to whether a piece is good or bad

[glad ferry]

Is there a way to not have thistle tea be automatic? lol

Why would they do this

[pseudo cosmos]

true but in my case its either myth track or its bad (since thats where my rogue is)

[deep gyro]

I believe this whole amstery talk is for brd loot

[bleak spoke]

sylvanas dagger had no secondaries at all, are you gonna tell me not to use one if the daggers you could get on-patch ilevel from brd were that impactful

[raven egret]

Pool properly, wont ever be automatic 😉

[spice surge]

No but it doesnt matter

[wise whale]

god i love cock

[bleak spoke]

it's literally all just arbitrary tuning

if it's good it's good

if it's not, then, well, cock

[glad ferry]

How doesn't it matter, it's terrible outside of burst windows to have thistle tea be used

makes it so youre starved during burst windows

[bleak spoke]

it's literally not terrible

[spice surge]

its not terrible

[severe sparrow]

oh no we're back on the tea again?

[raven egret]

Please, explain HOW we are starved in burst windows

[glad ferry]

idk i just woke up

[young dust]

UK players are fuming that they can't choose when to drink tea anymore

[raven egret]

cause you aint playing the same game I am XD

[nimble ether]

I spam all three of my teas at the start of a fight

[wise whale]

pin plz

[eager gazelle]

I am dumping my thistle tea in the harbor

[deep gyro]

Guys wouldnt be complaining he would just adapt

[wise whale]

this too plz

[bleak spoke]

tbh probably not bad, extra value from having bloodlust

[raven egret]

Now thats a party

[glad ferry]

idk, am I just bad? I just dont play the game when I dont have shiv I guess? so I dont go below 30

[bleak spoke]

like probably better than autousing

[spice surge]

You shouldnt really be dropping under 30 to begin with, but even if you do it doesnt matter much

[forest nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-party-champagne-gif-18280013

[bleak spoke]

when you press deathmark you get a lot of energy

[glad ferry]

Yes, but what about the other times where I dont have death mark and just shiv or shivv KB

[vast loom]

we have 300 energy

thats 270 energy to work with you got plenty

[bleak spoke]

i'm not sure how much is reasonable to pool to, but i try to pool quite a bit before

old habits

[deep gyro]

But melee brain keeps smahing buttons.

[vast loom]

true

and you lose a bit of dmg for it

but not that much

[young dust]

just save a little before while keeping envenom up

[pseudo cosmos]

its .2 .3

[deep gyro]

Na i want my .2 %

[bleak spoke]

i think theoreitcally you should probably pool to never trigger sanguine

[pseudo cosmos]

its so low ur not gonna notice

[young dust]

i already accepted the damage is negligible

[bleak spoke]

so like to 140-150

[vale shore]

I pool a little on queen ansurek for the snare, so I can cleave my way out quickly

[nimble ether]

Rogue try not to doom challenge

[bleak spoke]

for the raw kb window

on the odd minutes

probably

[wise whale]

i think theoretically we just dont play sangween

[little tulip]

yeah dumping that many envenoms isn't great except at the end of fights

[bleak spoke]

i'm playing sanguine in key for sure

[nimble ether]

Bruh bruh said ween

[coral ibex]

you wont be playing VV in ST anymore so your energy usage for mutilate goes down

[little tulip]

if ur chugging tea when cooldowns are off its kinda bad

[coral ibex]

its really just a control yourself angle

[bleak spoke]

^

[lyric cave]

how we doing with the changes

[nimble ether]

Doomed

[little tulip]

unless it's like the reanimated mage

[coral ibex]

no idea, game isn't up for another 3.5hrs

[thorn crater]

Are WAs getting an update? For the TTK shenanigans?

[bleak spoke]

i actually suck ass at controlling myself, i will hit tea when i'm bored and i want to press buttons

[native heron]

cockle doodle doo

[lyric cave]

[pseudo cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-slam-slam-desk-desk-slam-xqc-slam-gif-19145485

[bleak spoke]

but it's like

[vale shore]

are we just moving Vicious Venoms point to Twist the Knife?

[pseudo cosmos]

the buttons

[nimble ether]

Time to roll hunter guys

[wise whale]

1 for cock

1

[bleak spoke]

tbh it doesn't hurt your dps that much

in fact, it only hurts you about 0.2% to randompress tea

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-wow-clapping-xqc-clapping-xqc-wow-gif-18258764

[little tulip]

yeah fort week bringing the pain this week

[wise whale]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[vale shore]

every week is fort week when you only do 10s!

[little tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/platypus-run-wiggle-funny-gif-4823281

[bleak spoke]

and go from playing around 3 stacks of mark to playing around 3 stacks of packleader applied at random by pet auto swings?

die die die die die

[pseudo cosmos]

whats this you logging in tomorrow?

[bleak spoke]

btw if you alt a hunter, you need pet attack macros on every dps button again

[deep gyro]

I mentioned this but his response was casualness

[bleak spoke]

very not cool

they did it again

[eager gazelle]

I need my tea to cover for me when I fuck up and have 0 energy and 0 combo points and my rupture is about to fall off

[nimble ether]

Oh shit fr

[eager gazelle]

we are not the same

[bleak spoke]

yeh

[wise whale]

!mods !ban !plz !now

[bleak spoke]

it's fucked up

[nimble ether]

I strictly only ply mm when I do play hunter

[little tulip]

i got 1 piece of myth gear in my vault and nothin to loose

[nimble ether]

So whatevs

[bleak spoke]

the hunters in my guild are disappointed but not surprised, if that makes sense

[spice spire]

Based

[vale shore]

Mistcaller Ocarina is calling your name!

[bleak spoke]

[wise whale]

i stg bm's gonna be nutty again

[bleak spoke]

they forgot to nerf kill command with animal companion changes

part of the reason why i think maintanence will be extended

[young dust]

and you should be disappointed because they are playing hunter, all good

[wise whale]

notorious sandbagger kim jong Azor

[young dust]

[eager gazelle]

none of the devs play hunter, they wont notice

[bleak spoke]

yes they will

[kindred hinge]

The question is as someone that played hunter for nearly 6 years straight... why play it now though? Boring af

[bleak spoke]

when hunter does 30% more dmg than it's supposed to

[wise whale]

their entire npc playerbase plays hunter

[little tulip]

i miss hemorrhage

[bleak spoke]

for all the bugs this expac

[left sundial]

While playing with frost dks you guys skipp crimson first big pulls right packs dies instant

[near elk]

Im in the same situation hahaha trying to keep the tea for kingsbane but in the second kingsbane my energy is around 30 points… so if you dont pool guys… how keep that

[bleak spoke]

i've alted almost every single dps spec now

and

almost all of them are fun

[wise whale]

lol no

[bleak spoke]

actually legitimately fun

[coral ibex]

no, CT cranks big time

[eager gazelle]

well the real answer is "don't end up in that situation"

[bleak spoke]

the answer is start pooling

but if you're in that situation, your tea autodrinking will probably be a gain

tbh

[raven egret]

you wouldnt want the ennemies to miss their sudden... demise!

[young dust]

depending on key level i keep my cooldowns for second pull lol

[deep gyro]

That was good. I liked it

[young dust]

when i'm finally set up, the pack is dead

[grim jay]

ct snapshots the dmg increase

so its still worth

[near elk]

Thats the thing im trying to learn… but people say not recommended pool energy… so should press the buttons more slow

[coral ibex]

gotta accel your opener then

[wise whale]

idk do higher keys or wait for the fdk nerf

[raven egret]

Thanks thanks I'll be here all week 🤣

[wise whale]

not having to SnD/ER should help speed it up

[deep gyro]

Rip er

[wise whale]

indeed

[young dust]

i was finally enjoying ER

[young dust]

bug-free

[little tulip]

idk what the affix is this week but rip inviting hunters

[wise whale]

ive heard rip ER but never rip SnD

[thick juniper]

ER was so nice to me

[deep gyro]

Ive been enjoying ever since the bug fix

[raven egret]

To 2x lethality or not, that is the philosophical question

[coral ibex]

nobody gives a fuck about snd, ER was a good button

[robust axle]

2x

[little tulip]

back to decline on sight prly tho

[wise whale]

man im gonna miss hitting slice n dice

[gritty laurel]

rest in piss SnD, more like

[raven egret]

Sus

[young dust]

when your mutis aligned perfectly with your CBs

that was so goddamn satisfying

[frozen glacier]

snd uptime enjoyers in shambles

[tranquil cobalt]

How different are the builds now after today's update and the echo changes

[deep gyro]

Ban this man pls

[raven egret]

Not very different at all

[wise whale]

!ban @wise whale

didnt work sorry bro

[raven egret]

Not sure how we can slot in Twist the Knife in most cases either

[young dust]

get the f out you hunter spy

[tepid charm]

SnD should automatically turn any unprocessed meat in your bags into processed meat

[bleak spoke]

i think sims (preliminary, grain of salt, etc etc) are torn between 2 lethality + 1 supercharger vs. all the way through to forced induction

[deep gyro]

We cannot allow this heretic to live.

[tranquil cobalt]

We removed slice and dice and echo from opener right? Like there is no point in ever pressing slice and dice now

[bleak spoke]

it's not like the inbetween of 1leth 2supercharger

[robust axle]

Atm you 2x Lethality cause of the KB doubledip

[bleak spoke]

i don't htink snd is a button that exists anymore

[native heron]

correct.