assassination

[tawny geyser]

How are your guilds BL'ing Ovinax on Mythic?

[vast loom]

p3 1st egg breaks ish

[sweet cave]

ugh DM is 2min CD, I remember where meta was up in these fights in raid.. lots of intermission burst windows

[tawny geyser]

Do we want Deathmark on opener then or with adds?

[spice surge]

Thats around ~6:25ish

On pull

[tawny geyser]

I tried both, can't figure out which is better, they're kinda there.

[vast loom]

i go for full boss dmg

with a small hold for lust

[sweet cave]

you can always use Llorgs for cool down timings

[vast loom]

biggest thing on that fight is dont fuck up eggs dont fuck up kicks and dont die to swirls lol

[tawny geyser]

The swirls are so annoying, everything else is cake.

Especially when we use AMZ, AMZ purple, swirlie purple, cant see shit

[sweet cave]

but more cognitive overload

[hollow stone]

yea, sin is there for boss dmg and incidental cleave with caustic (and kicks obviously); you can send cds pmuch on cd, and that is the usual lust time (p3 either during blood or after for first adds in p3 - triple worms)

[royal lantern]

imagine having color weakness

hahahahhahahahhaha

hahahahah

🙂

[vast loom]

this is my boss dmg on our 1st rekill of ovinax it felt really good lol

[royal lantern]

i love 2024 blizzard encounter "difficulty" desing

[royal lantern]

just dont let me see stuff

[sweet cave]

Yeah blizz raid design... aand UI has always been terrible

[royal lantern]

10/10

[sweet cave]

Requires addons to do shit

When plater can color an important interupt but base Ui cant..

just lazy

[vast loom]

i mean its smart in some ways let the community do the hard work

[onyx musk]

are we getting buffed or nerfed tmrw some one tell me i cant think for myself

[vast loom]

pins

[onyx musk]

goodcomms

[sweet cave]

Yeah but I think tuning should be done around base UI not addons

[tired gull]

[sweet cave]

addons make this easy.. hence lets add swirlies

[tired gull]

ideally... but then it would be wayyyy too easy (because people do use addons)

[vast loom]

beyond their trash buff bar

you cna play most classes without WA's

[sweet cave]

m+ anything past a 10 would be really hard base ui

[gloomy otter]

will there be any news "bis" items with the new raid on patch?

[vast loom]

dont think so

[tired gull]

does brd have any good trinkies?

[gloomy otter]

what about hand of justice?

[sweet cave]

isnt the raid gonna be like TW easy level of crap with champ gear

[rotund oak]

my mage has basicly 1 WA pack and some custom WA's of mine,not even mdt

[tired gull]

same ilvl as nerubar, lfr, normal, and heroic

[rotund oak]

u dont need much

[sweet cave]

oh thats pog asf

[rotund oak]

does 10-11s

[tired gull]

with supercharger and a 7 (9) cp darkest night envenom... we should be hitting some realllllly juicy big ones right

[hardy dagger]

[sturdy crater]

LLorgs?

[sweet cave]

https://lorrgs.io

[manic matrix]

what do we think of dropping doomblade + serrated bone for master assassin + lightweit shiv in m+ with the (from what I understood) 12sec indiscriminate carnage and master assassin

in aoe scenario

[vast loom]

its worse dmg

[gloomy otter]

https://i.imgur.com/UlJxEWG.png

which trinket combination would you guys recommend for raid ST and which for m+

[vast loom]

but also tuesday we get new talents so new builds

[static glacier]

ngl i am always anti-dropping sbs even if it's a dmg gain

spreading rupture becomes annoying without sbs

[vast loom]

agreed lol

[manic matrix]

I mean it's a bit longer but you have twice as much time as before if you play with subterfuge

[static glacier]

it's one of those cases i'd take a loss for convinience

[vast loom]

yeah but subterfuge doesnt do dmg

[static glacier]

just like when I refused to play exsang in all of vault

[manic matrix]

it does if you have master assassin

[static glacier]

we ain't taking subt unless it's a high key iron wire needed angle

ur just griefing ur boss dmg by taking it

[manic matrix]

are you ? 25% crit + double shiv burst

idk

[vast loom]

run the sims lol

[static glacier]

yes, consider what ur losing

there's sims already out

[manic matrix]

interesting

ty

[tired gull]

i'm a big fan of feelcrafting

[static glacier]

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w5gBFypEqkYMXi7biupTTc

loow how low wat is

[misty holly]

You lose 2% crit and the new echoing reprimand to get it? I mean sure, you're down a few percent. Doesnt seem disasterous.

[static glacier]

assuming you run one of the hybrid builds

[deep gyro]

Must be nice

[static glacier]

ain't nop wait 45k dps loss is worth

unless ur in need of the utility

[manic matrix]

is the new echoing reprimand good?

[static glacier]

it's alright ye

[vast loom]

the actual talent called ER no, but supercharger is decnet

[manic matrix]

how does it compare to previous ER?

[static glacier]

weaker

[pseudo cosmos]

Ikr got 1 of them (spyglass)

[static glacier]

numerically it's just weaker

[vast loom]

weaker for us but i think its stronger for other specs

[static glacier]

+2 cps on spender is weaker than current er effect

[deep gyro]

Lol i kid i got 3 of them and a crystal.

[static glacier]

but it saves a global + isn't as annoying to play

the loss is offset by gains elsewhere

[pseudo cosmos]

[tired gull]

too bad ritual knife can't be myth track

[manic matrix]

I was thinking something like this

[delicate egret]

Question:

If I have a darkest night proc up, do I just send my energy in order to proc it, even if it means not casting envenom during the last sec of envenom?

[tired gull]

you want to consume DN as soon as possible

[delicate egret]

Even if it means "wasting" envenom uptime?

[tired gull]

yeah

and after tomorrow, you won't be wasting envenom uptime

[delicate egret]

Why is that? I don't think I understand the benefit

fair hahah

[tired gull]

(or wednesday if you're eu)

[dapper cradle]

bro

[tired gull]

cause you want DSM on your target

[dapper cradle]

no snd tomorrow

[fallen arch]

More possible dn consumes

[deep gyro]

Ugeee

[tired gull]

what am i going to put on 4 with no snd

[fallen arch]

And dsm uptime ye

[tired gull]

(idk why i still have a button you only press 1 time per fight on 4)

[steady spire]

Does garrote and rupture Snap shot? Or is that a thing of the past?

[tired gull]

no more snapshotting

[static glacier]

i think lightweight shiv is worse than ttk here

[steady spire]

So get my shit up then proc my orc/SG trink

[nimble tartan]

guys i didnt even learn my regular opener yet and they gotta change my talents again omfg

[tired gull]

yep

[nimble tartan]

what the frick!!

[steady spire]

Yall liking mecha over orc?

I love the burstie ness of orc

[novel badger]

Isn't TTK a major buff. The extra 30% buff should make kingsbane windows insane right? Are we sandbagging?

[misty holly]

The other day Whispyr was saying CT snapshots target count, I never realized that.

[static glacier]

where do you get the impression we're sandbagging that these changes aren't a buff?

[misty holly]

So if you CT a big pack, even if all the little adds immediately die you still get big CT damage on the living target.

[tired gull]

yep

[manic matrix]

I don't understand how adding 2sec to envenom is considered good, is there anything else added to it?

[novel badger]

I was thinking this is more like 9-10% instead of 6%

[tired gull]

you can have 2 stacks of envenom

[manic matrix]

60% ?

[static glacier]

thing is simc needs to implement ttk properly

atm they can't specify apls that play around it as they might want to try

so the gain might be higher

[novel badger]

understood yeah that makes sense

[static glacier]

but as it stands we're looking at 6%

[novel badger]

6% without ttk being in the apl properly is insane

[manic matrix]

you're saying we get 60% application chance so 81% in total ? lol

[static glacier]

thing is I doubt the apl will be able to do stuff that whispyr can reccomend with a clear conscience ]

if the optimisation is giga cursed clipping 2 stack envs by like 0.1s or less consistently

we're not enh, we don't push dumbass optimisations that people can't realistically do

[dapper cradle]

the way 2 stack envenom works is kinda weird though

it's not an actual 2 stack, right?

they're like independent of each other?

[spice spire]

It’s like ironfur

[tired gull]

yeah they're independent

[dapper cradle]

right

[static glacier]

the fact it doesn't pandemic leads me to speculate the optimisation will be to pool til 1 stack and avoid overcapping

[tired gull]

but less wasted envenom uptimes at least 👍

[static glacier]

thing is apm is going to be pretty high, only like 10% downtime

[manic matrix]

I mean where it matters most is during kingsbane windows anyways

[static glacier]

during cds we're hard gcd capped anyway

[tired gull]

anyone else going FB 🙂

[static glacier]

between tea and not pooling

[static glacier]

yeah im thinking ill try it on next week's sikran

[manic matrix]

but isn't the change that forces you to use tea absolutely dogshit?

[static glacier]

doesn't matter

gonna be tea on shiv

[tired gull]

you can still press tea

[static glacier]

regardless of energy

and even if u never press it and just let it auto trigger it's 0.2%

[manic matrix]

yeah but you have to be careful not to go under 30 energie under any circumstances no?

[static glacier]

negligible really

[static glacier]

the loss is not that big

[dapper cradle]

no snd is gonna make me wanna goon though fr

[static glacier]

if ur giga averse to the auto-use you can just send 3x tea and then it will come up with kb

[manic matrix]

true

[native seal]

Today i marked 50 runs in cringe batol. This trinket does not exist

[dapper cradle]

[static glacier]

just go princess and get trink from her

[dapper cradle]

princess trink is cringe bro

[native seal]

(i have it oups)

i just hate it

[dapper cradle]

"self suck for 15 secs for an agi buff"

no thanks

[steady spire]

Did any other spec get buffed to compare to assa?

Bin paying more attention to my mage tbh

[nimble tartan]

chat what does envenom stack twice mean but its not a stack

[static glacier]

ye, start of ovi prog i unequiped hc princess trink to use 606 skardyns, got tired of killing myself

[manic matrix]

reminds me of branch on tindral

[hard garnet]

Means it can overlap

[native seal]

Th amount of time that freakin orb went into the sea @ final boss boralus or under the final boss of mists fat belly i can't

[steady spire]

That reminds of s1df when I grinded my lock for horn of valor lol

[static glacier]

i didn't mind branch as much as this shit

[dapper cradle]

since week one -- haven't gotten a higher ilvl one since

[static glacier]

atleast there it would come to you

[nimble tartan]

it can overlap what does this mean hehe

[tired gull]

same boat as me 606 skardyn's friend 🙂

[manic matrix]

branch on smolderon was already aids having to pick up 8 balls mid burst and dodging + avoiding big ball that blast the raid

[nimble tartan]

cause when i envenom it already clears my envenom buff and does a new duration one…

i just dont know what it mean…

[raw swan]

Never seen it drop :((

[static glacier]

this is what ovi prog finished with

[hard garnet]

It’s a change coming on reset

11.05

[manic matrix]

fully abused this trinket week one cuz you could double use

[tired gull]

goated rings

[native seal]

I have a 639 crystal and 626 transmitter so i shouldn't complain but after maining feral (branch) i'm just done with them cringe trinkets, i just wanna macro and blast 😂

[hard garnet]

I just looked at the top 100 parses for Sikran and Rash Mythic and I’m carrying the wrathstone enjoyers with 1% usage lol

[tired gull]

they should make a trinket, where you have to do the untangle minigame from delves, use, solve untangle, get big buff

[static glacier]

i just want to be a double passive trink class one day

[hard garnet]

Lmao pre pull puzzles

[static glacier]

im envious of enh / ol

[native seal]

and it's bis Devil out there probably even disgusted

[tired gull]

LOL

[tired gull]

boss resets it on pull if you use prepull

[hard garnet]

God that would be awful lmao

[manic matrix]

no shot you crave a trinket more than insane weapons like EoN

[spice surge]

Theres practically no difference between the two though

[tired gull]

also they should bring back poison crafting... AND bring back charges on the poisons

[gritty laurel]

with the patch, macroing envenom>CB should be fine on FB right? very first envenom in opener is raw, then CB pops, then you use DM before next envenom

[spice surge]

Iirc whispyr found with kingsbane to be the best

[gritty laurel]

makes sense

[spice surge]

Because then its always up for your bursts

[stark umbra]

wondering if this bad boy will be decent https://i.imgur.com/RxUS4I4.png

[uneven plume]

is twist of knife stack 60% envenom damage?

In tomorrows patch

[spice surge]

Its not 60% envenom damage, its 2x stacks of the buff from envenom

[uneven plume]

kk

[spice surge]

But having an extra stack of envenom up means rapid injection gives you extra damage

[uneven plume]

yah still pretty good

theres no way to get 2x twist in m+ tho

unless you drop DTB

[spice surge]

There is, its in the pins

[copper hazel]

inb4 this is bugged and procs every 0.25sec, but is still half as good as a spymasters

[distant birch]

why is kush not doing pooling energy anymore? He just spam envenom 😂

[tired gull]

in keys?

[distant birch]

Raid

Pure ST

[loud trench]

There is a lot of movement and mechanics at least on the first 5/8M I have done, I don’t really ever have to pool lol

Because anytime I go to pool I get a mechanic and then it’s free pooling

[tired gull]

probably not trying to 100% optimize in reclears

[distant birch]

But you need to play around ur talents

Idk

[harsh anchor]

Push buttons kill boss repeat

[loud trench]

Idk man I’m parcing 90+ on the first 4/8 mythic so

[tired gull]

optimizing only really matters during the race where tuning is very tight

[loud trench]

Sure I’m doing something right

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah the pooling thing is way overblown

[distant birch]

But ur not perfect:>

[distant birch]

hmmmm

[cobalt sphinx]

and most people don't nerd out over little decimal percentage increases

[loud trench]

lol no dude no one is 😂😂😂

[distant birch]

The reality….

[tired gull]

optimal pooling is probably the difference between a ultimate juicer DN envenom vs a 3m envenom

[loud trench]

Just hit your buttons and do mechanics man, chances are your guild isn’t even strong enough to kill bosses in a clean enough manner to parce well on a fight in mythic so chill

[harsh anchor]

Ayo kinda tox say sorry

[loud trench]

Sorry just woke up

[harsh anchor]

gm

[tired gull]

gm pumpkin

[velvet pier]

Does anyone have a weakaura for the Transmitter? Or is it just yolo try and see whatever debuff you get?

[tired gull]

https://wago.io/jX4s-GYvb

[velvet pier]

thanks ❤️

[hollow stone]

“Youre not wong, youre just an asshole” (not actually calling you an asshole just couldnt resist the bit here 😘)

[tired gull]

wago -> search trasmitter 💪

does anyone else hate when you press fok on a big trash pull and just get 0 crits

[deep gyro]

Eyo wong :0 i raided with u a while a back looked at my dms and its u XD

[rotund oak]

probably the most cringe thing that can happen when u tryin' to pump the pack

[waxen oyster]

apparently you can get a bounty map from random zekvir spawn

[tired gull]

when it happens, i go back to mut for a couple finishers just to cool off from being so HEATED

[hollow stone]

Very high chance on the random ones

[rotund oak]

im drinking some water and yelling at my dog to woof me back

[tired gull]

i'm still tilted they removed zekvir's lair from vault

[waxen oyster]

might have been i wasnt looking if he left something behind

[rotund oak]

typical frustration move

[waxen oyster]

i got a hero knife on my alt i care little about

[rotund oak]

im ok with zekvir's lair thing,dont rly mind

pretty tilted with the tyr weeks being stagnant AF

like no one is playing

and even on my mage im struggling to do keys

like hello in 10s both are present,fort and tyr

[hollow stone]

I was gonna say.. they are always both active

[deep gyro]

Just push ur own key. Ez

[rotund oak]

even in my own keys

there are no ppl to que

idk,ppl just sht themselves or something

[visual hemlock]

can you immune Regicide with cloak of shadows?

or you still take damage

[hollow stone]

game’s dead clearly

[bleak spoke]

if you trigger it literally on cd the effect is just oer 1k dps it reads

[tired gull]

1k?

[stark umbra]

math doesnt math

[fluid vessel]

why sim with sacbrood ? not with ovinax eggs ?

[bleak spoke]

7.5s per shot

[tired gull]

10k

[bleak spoke]

you have to wind it 3 times

[tired gull]

not 1k

[bleak spoke]

oh

[stark umbra]

thats a 584 btw

[hollow stone]

81000/2.5=32400

[bleak spoke]

3 triggers each on 2.5s

[hollow stone]

Napkin math, 584 ilvl

[tired gull]

torrent of flames sounds like it could hit everything though? so maybe good for aoe?

[bleak spoke]

not 2.5s per shot

[stark umbra]

its 7.5s per shot ye

[bleak spoke]

if it's uncapped

[tired gull]

yeah

[bleak spoke]

maybe kinda owns

[stark umbra]

if its any target, on m+ its gonna be busted

[hollow stone]

Ah yea, mb /3 my number so its back to the ~10k napkin math

[bleak spoke]

that's still less than 1% of our dmg right now

[stark umbra]

gonan be around 15k at 626 probs

[tired gull]

why is echo struggling on rash so hard rn

[hollow stone]

skill diff clearly

[bleak spoke]

how many buyers are in

[hollow stone]

this is why they didnt win

[tender bay]

How is binding of binding on rogue?

[rotund oak]

?

[hollow stone]

Not good

[rotund oak]

binding of binding

im confused

[tender bay]

its embelishment

[rotund oak]

does that thing exist and what is it

ah i c

[hollow stone]

Its a pre-embellished ring

And its bad

[stray adder]

are we expecting major apl changes after 11.0.5?

[sturdy python]

not major, per se, but definitely changes yeah

TTK and that overlapping envenom will be interesting

[stray adder]

yeah def

I'm sad about the ER changes, I liked the mini game, idk if I'm the only one but yep

[cobalt sphinx]

i liked it

it was nice when you were out of energy and 0 combo points

[stray adder]

I feel that

[spice spire]

Major? No.
Changes? Probably

[dapper cradle]

does 2 stack evenom lead to faster amp poison stacking?

[balmy condor]

yes

[tawdry flint]

Your latest video is great @balmy condor sin rogues are blessed

[balmy condor]

ty

[nimble ether]

Which video ?

[marble hemlock]

assa rogues are blessed too

[nimble ether]

Assy wogue rise up

[real pike]

BRD bleed dagger looks like it could be kinda decent?

[tawdry flint]

Latest one discussing talent changes

[nimble ether]

Where’s that at

[tawdry flint]

YouTube

[balmy condor]

no

pogging

[real pike]

Thank fuck for that wasn't looking forward to having to try and get it

[balmy condor]

all the BRD stuff looks like shit

unless there's some giga overtuned thing

[real pike]

Better that way imo, stuff like that should be mainly for funsies

[balmy condor]

but just effect wise there's 2 daggers ana d ring without stats

so

1 is confirmed bad

the other looks bad

and the ring is giga bad

[cobalt sphinx]

can you still wax timewalking

[balmy condor]

no clue

I didn't see them fix it

[tacit otter]

it didnt work for me last timewalking

[balmy condor]

then I guess not

there's no point in me doing timewalking past first week or two

[dense talon]

Do we use thistle tea for the sole purpose of energy or do we use it as damage boost cd?

[balmy condor]

kinda doomed

[balmy condor]

right now we use it for energy in single target, with the patch we use it for mastery since we're giga energy capped

[brittle quail]

so the automation of tea is the most useless stuff actually ? x)

[stray adder]

it's terrible

I hate it

[lethal arrow]

[balmy condor]

automated tea is totally fine as well

[ashen totem]

im out of the loop for the smaller details, whats causing us to be super energy capped?

[balmy condor]

if you proc it, it's chill

[balmy condor]

dashing and no VV

[clever sapphire]

im pretty sure that got fixed the moment where they did the 610 ilvl cap on it (thats already removed tho)

[ashen totem]

we run dashing, cool

[loud nest]

Sin rogues are so blessed with Whispyr

I need a buy you a coffee link btw

[lethal arrow]

can't wait to redo all my talents when the guide comes out today

[brave stump]

[coral ibex]

weee can't wait to be energy capped

[arctic socket]

@balmy condor wowhead post when 😮

[balmy condor]

what you sussing

[real pike]

Ok just read the pin, stupid question, why are we only pooling to 40% with sanguine? Like why bother taking sanguine at all if we're spending under 50%? Is it just that good during DM windows etc

[balmy condor]

it's the shiniest turd

[nova aspen]

more energy in ST is poggies

[brave stump]

Bundesrepublik Deutschland

[balmy condor]

I don't recommend taking it

but ya know

[arctic socket]

What else do you take

[balmy condor]

internal

[nova aspen]

in his video he said internal bleeding

u must watch the HIYA video

[lethal arrow]

should be mid day today

[arctic socket]

Oh shit

[lethal arrow]

in like 5 hours

[nova aspen]

[arctic socket]

New whispyr yap video?

[lethal arrow]

(im going off his youtube video)

[spice spire]

Yeah I’m unzipping rn

Time to listen

[arctic socket]

Why isn’t that pinned

[nova aspen]

a new yap video, bring snackies

[arctic socket]

So real for that

[nova aspen]

it is pinned

[arctic socket]

Where

[lethal arrow]

I just made pages for every boss last week

[spice spire]

Seek help bestie

[arctic socket]

Oh

[lethal arrow]

Time to do it all over again

[arctic socket]

It’s not a YouTube link

[nova aspen]

right there

[arctic socket]

It’s a blue right here

Ignore me

It’s been a long rough day

Reading is difficult

[dense talon]

With new updates, are there changes to existing m+ or raid builds?

[arctic socket]

Those are pinned too

[normal mist]

I love that pins answer 95% of the recent questions

[dense talon]

ty ty. new to discord.

[lethal arrow]

If anything just wait for the wowhead guide

[arctic socket]

That will get pinned soon too

[hollow stone]

Im gonna miss pushing snd manually

My favorite button

[nova aspen]

-1 gcd in the opener is gonna feel so nice

-2 with er i guess

[hollow stone]

It really is

[stray adder]

devastating change

won't recover

[hollow stone]

Will definitely feel weird at the start

[stray adder]

are we just taking it off our action bar?

[spice spire]

@royal lantern I found your sleep paralysis damage

[hollow stone]

yessir we are indeed

[stray adder]

oh lord

[nova aspen]

im also pumped for feint off the gcd

[normal mist]

same

[hollow stone]

@royal lantern loves pushing snd manually too, hes team applejuicce for sure

[normal mist]

now make it cost no energy too

[nova aspen]

now it wont feel bad to feint in DM window

[hollow stone]

Should i move feint to my snd bind???

Lets goo??!

[lethal arrow]

Basically openers the same and we just skip ER and SND

[royal lantern]

fuck you

[lethal arrow]

right?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[spice spire]

Promise?

[royal lantern]

yes

[spice spire]

[hollow stone]

😘

[dapper cradle]

god I'm so pumped for no snd

[subtle tundra]

god i dont fucking get whats the big dealaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[hollow stone]

It is a bit odd that they didnt just straight up make it a passive buff but hey, this is great too

[dapper cradle]

[hollow stone]

Its not a big deal, no, but its an improvement in required button pushes so we like that

[subtle tundra]

💀

YOU are the reason tea got autouse

and ER GOT REMOVED

[hollow stone]

Am not

[dapper cradle]

[subtle tundra]

you, as in the people with your opinion

[royal lantern]

thats a weird conclusion

[lethal arrow]

wtf do i even put on these keys now

[royal lantern]

a UwU macro

[dapper cradle]

it was just a super clunky part of set up

[lethal arrow]

-2 buttons is crazy

[dapper cradle]

not a smooth opener at all

lil better now

[hollow stone]

Tea change wont even matter with the other changes

[lethal arrow]

I very occasionally forgot to use slice

[subtle tundra]

yeayeayea whatever

[hollow stone]

Er change is a bit sad but nbd

[subtle tundra]

not the point

[lethal arrow]

with the lingering combo point after rupture lmao

[hollow stone]

ah i c, youre just a hater of any changes

[subtle tundra]

this patch is a straight downgrade of assa

[zenith tree]

This message is what finally made me understand what ER stood for lmao

[hollow stone]

🎣

[subtle tundra]

yea im just baiting

thank god blizz cares and makes changes to appeal to the player base

[stray adder]

you had me shook for a sec

ngl

[mighty scroll]

guys raidbot sim dungeon slice and the one we do are the same? Or how should I sim for top gear

[spring socket]

any changes to talents ?

[rain oyster]

Guys wtf do I do with 3 extra buttons tomorrow?!?!?

[dull cloak]

toys

[real pike]

the worst part is I'm not gonna bind anything else to my very easily accessible SnD button because it's just gonna feel wrong

[noble pollen]

good bye sd button

[real pike]

oh fuck SAKE just got to the bit about fatebound being better

[languid ferry]

is crimson tempest worth pressing on ST?

[real pike]

now I'm madge

[languid ferry]

as in keeping up the bleed

[dawn heath]

don't bother

[hollow stone]

No, 2t+

[languid ferry]

ty!

[harsh anchor]

Thought it was with momentum

[swift dagger]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[harsh anchor]

[iron valve]

healthstone, focus kick, /train

[dawn heath]

its about a neutral to keep CT up in dps

but why even bother if its neutral

on ST

if it means you dropping rupture just for a second or something or fucking up envenom uptime it will be a immediate loss

[harsh anchor]

Big think

[bleak spoke]

dropping rupture is crazy

[viscid spear]

And yet 95% of users

[thick sail]

I checked the pins and I didn't see the answer to this:

Does TTK make Dashing Scoundrel good in M+ or Raid now? Or neither

[hollow talon]

Macro them to /camp so you can log out and play enh shaman fotm masterclass

[balmy condor]

the single target sim is taking dashing yes

[thick sail]

Fascinating

[balmy condor]

ttk itself is like a 40% buff to dashing's energy

[thick sail]

Not worth it in M+ though?

[subtle tundra]

you dont have points to

m+ is very point stripped

too many mandatories

[brave comet]

people that mandate 8/8 H on normal are weirdoes

[thick sail]

Dashing energy regen in AOE, in Shadowlands, felt crazy, but it didn't feel impactful in DF or TWW

[subtle tundra]

energy regen in aoe was never something you ever thought about

[cobalt sphinx]

looks like m+ build doesn't change

[thick sail]

I wonder if the energy regen will feel good again in aoe M+

[subtle tundra]

you just said something random

random words

you have always been energy capped in aoe

[daring hamlet]

has anyone put much thought into defensive rotation for 2nd boss of cot? feel like on 14/15 im just out of defensives halfway through and need externals

[cobalt sphinx]

i don't think you'll be running ttk and dashing in m+

well you might but it might not be optimal

we'll see

you have to drop a LOT

[thick sail]

I used to play a build in SL for M+ where I just slammed envenoms and CT and didn't really spread bleeds much and just Dashing would provide crazy regen

[subtle tundra]

well you played wrong

LOL

[thick sail]

At some point, for whatever reason, Dashing stopped regenerating a lot of energy

In aoe

[rain oyster]

The right way to play is the friends we made along the way

[subtle tundra]

the rule for dotting was atleast to energy cap

always in aoe

so yea if you misplayed maybe

[thick sail]

Back then, IC was different

[subtle tundra]

i wouldnt know

back then ic didnt exist

maybe youre crazy

[hollow stone]

you have been dot spreading for energy since forever

[thick sail]

I... might be crazy

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean idk how dashing energy could generate aoe in a situation where you have infinite energy

like

fundamentally you are capped on a resource

generating more will not provide anything

[tacit otter]

there was no IC in SL??

[balmy condor]

no

IC was a dragonflight addition

[warped jackal]

Guys i need Help . i want a proper plater wanna start playing assassin and the palter i have is bad

can you recommand somthing for me

[balmy condor]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[thick sail]

Oh god my eyes

[warped jackal]

i know

[balmy condor]

HDR gamer

[thick sail]

I am laughing so hard

[warped jackal]

hahahahahh just loged in with rogue today XD and when i hit dummy i was like WTF is all this shit XD

[balmy condor]

debuff spec

:P

[cobalt sphinx]

i appreciate the tooltips on mouseover too

[thick sail]

I don't use plater, I should but like, I can't deal with that much shit on the screen

[halcyon grail]

Remember when Rupture procced poison bomb..?

[thick sail]

I like Whispyr's Aefnar

[subtle tundra]

thank god its all customizable

[daring hamlet]

@balmy condor if i wanna change the condiion for mark nameplate from a color-change to a sizing-change of the nameplate is that simple?

[thick sail]

That takes brain cells though

[warped jackal]

i notice that assassin require Debuf Tracking . i am thinking of Garrote . Rupture . caustic spatter and deathstrike

do i need to track anything els ?

will plater conflict with mythic plus plater ? the one that show priority target and Inturapt priority etc

?

[rain oyster]

Someone tell him SnD

[hollow stone]

Yea make sure you track snd for 1 to 2 more days depending on your region

[spice spire]

[hollow stone]

Very important

[warped jackal]

SOD and Crimson tempest and how many target have raputre can be tracket with this wekaura

under my charecter

So @balmy condor plater is the one you recommand guys ?

[subtle tundra]

you can import each and try all of them

see which you prefer

😉

[tacit otter]

just try all out and see what you like is the best option

varas

cmon

[subtle tundra]

WHAT

WHAT

LET ME

WOOF WOOF

[warped jackal]

what about if i want it to work with Mythic plus plater ?? so i know target priority ?

[tacit otter]

im not that fast in typing, the one time i try to help

[spice spire]

Finished the whispyr video finished 3 times thanks king

[stray adder]

productivity

[tacit otter]

the plater recommended are whole profiles, i dont know if they conflict with your profile. but i would assume so

[thick sail]

Man I'm excited to bind Q to something more useful than Slice and Dice

[balmy condor]

no

you would have to recode one of the mods and then disable the other

[normal mist]

Oh hi james how you doin

[thick sail]

Oh hi Mark!

[balmy condor]

so unless you have lua knowledge kinda doomed

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-wiseau-haimark-the-room-gif-13081919

[quartz cobalt]

so do you guys just basically macro skardyns to deathmark generally

[daring hamlet]

brothers in arms

[normal mist]

yes

[spice spire]

Ye

[subtle tundra]

Q?

FUCKING Q?

[normal mist]

Guys i need help understanding something

[thick sail]

A man of culture

[quartz cobalt]

q is shadowstep always

[stray adder]

I have SnD on Alt + F4

[spice spire]

If I speak

[subtle tundra]

please speak some good words i need for queef

[normal mist]

i'm not a big M+ guy, but this was a mists +9, +2chest. All 3 dps's were 620

[subtle tundra]

i need to beat this pregnant spider

[spice spire]

Need for what

[subtle tundra]

to beat the pregnant

[normal mist]

how can a 620 warlock do tank dmg

[spice spire]

With gesr being easier and easier to get worse and worse people are in key ranges

[warped jackal]

any tips and weakaura that you recommand that i use that would make me play better and help me track etc rotation ?

other than plater

[normal mist]

they all had more Rio than me, i was the only one actually getting points

its just.... weird

[daring hamlet]

yeah assa overall is very similar to dk tbh especially in a dungeon like mists so you'll be dunking on the pleb classes

[subtle tundra]

at that level the spec doesnt mattter

[normal mist]

i've been dunking freaking everyone in the 8-9 range

[stray adder]

I mean people are bad at M+

[subtle tundra]

99.9% of players are dog

[thick sail]

Can I just say how sad I am about the current state of our talent trees for M+?

Unless I copy paste the Murlok.io talents, my fiance beats me in DPS on her ret paladin, and this has never happened before in any expansion where she regularly was beating me on DPS, regardless of spec.

If I use the Murlok.io M+ talents I beat her by about 200k, but still. It's crazy that our tree is so rigid that I literally cannot beat her if I don't copy/paste the theory crafted ideal spec

[stray adder]

and sin does big dam

[spice spire]

Had a BM hunter that didn’t know how to do first boss of siege.
Had a 2800 ele shaman do 600k dps, caveat on that is that 2800 was a resto main and trying dps

But it was ele

So?

[tacit otter]

i use whispyrs afenar edit wa for main tracking and have my own (bad) plater profile. all other wa i use are generic or unecessary

[spice spire]

Ele shaman did all mechanics and shit right though so he was obviously fine enough

[vernal snow]

what is the best racial for m+ high keys? dwarf?

[normal mist]

yea

[daring hamlet]

yeah you dont really get to a point where 'sick dmg' is baseline until like 14/15 keys and then thats just sorta expected and the differentiator is control/defensive useage imo

[tacit otter]

most of this stuff you have to figure out for yourself to fit you

[warped jackal]

1 more thing i crafted 2x Embalshemnt but i am only geting buff from 1 of them the other dont work

the total crit should be 1412 crit . but i am geting 756

[spice spire]

Damage yourself below 80%

[daring hamlet]

unless its a mage - 99.99% of mages just arne't him

[normal mist]

I'm not braggin or anything, i've showed my hatred towards m+ several times, but atleast i lock in when the key starts and pump every time

[spice spire]

Then heal back up

And it’ll be active

Common bug

[gentle badger]

With two envenom buffs being separate from each other, will the lowest duration one pandemic or are they not affected by pandemic at all with twist the knife?

[severe sparrow]

sometimes i have to make a bigger wa to show a thing that one of the packs does, but i need it more in my face

[pliant silo]

is automatic thistle tea dogshit

or

[heavy canopy]

No pandemic at all

[severe sparrow]

that's something that helps me a lil

[balmy condor]

the lowest one will pandemic

[balmy condor]

it's aight

not really a big loss

0.2%

[pliant silo]

it sounds bad

for m+

[tacit otter]

did this change today?

[novel star]

well

theyre not removing active tea

[warped jackal]

thank you so much it working now

[novel star]

its an active + a passive

[pliant silo]

do you lose a charge

[hollow stone]

time to reroll, 0.2% too rich for my blood

[novel star]

when you fall under 30 energy yes

[spice spire]

Glad to help big dog

[pliant silo]

so it's bad

[novel star]

but why

[pliant silo]

because you would just manually tea when you care

[novel star]

yeah but

[severe sparrow]

im wondering more how the tea change will feel, vs the actual numbers on it

[novel star]

you can still do that

[gentle badger]

Also sorry I watched your video today whyspyr but was working at the same time so can’t remember. When we have master assassin do we aim to use it at the last 3 seconds of kingsbane or just whenever during deathmark?

[pliant silo]

and you have no control over your %mastery buff or your resource any more

[novel star]

but you do

because

its still a fucking active

[pliant silo]

like... I want to stay under 50% energy

[warped jackal]

also thanks paul for the help

[thorn fjord]

@royal lantern thanks for the brood tips bro

[pliant silo]

but I can't go down to 30 energy

[thorn fjord]

I was blasting last night

[novel star]

brotherman

[pliant silo]

or my resource (tea charge) gets burned

for mastery% buff

[balmy condor]

it's jank idk I didn't think it would pandemic because no other similar effect does, but this seems to

[pliant silo]

when I don't want it

[balmy condor]

it's very strange

[novel star]

im just gonna say the number again because you didnt read it when whispyr said it

[balmy condor]

sims don't reflect it properly

[novel star]

if you proc auto tea

[balmy condor]

[novel star]

its a 0.2

[balmy condor]

it's a mess

[novel star]

0.2

[spice sentinel]

Just use all 3 tea charges during opening mark/kingsbane and you cant waste any charges from autoproc

[novel star]

%

[hollow stone]

guess youre doomed

[novel star]

loss

ZERO POINT TWO

[nova aspen]

gimme the dets i prog brood this weekend

[novel star]

percent dps loss

[proven jasper]

You are overflowing with energy in m+ brother man and the diff is negligible

[novel star]

if you proc auto tea

WHO CARES MAN

[pliant silo]

0.2% loss on what

[novel star]

YOUR DPSSSSSSS

YOUR DPS

OVERALL

0.2

LOSS

ONLY

[proven jasper]

overall dps

[novel star]

WHO

[pliant silo]

literally spouting a number with zero context

[novel star]

CARES

[pliant silo]

single target?

[novel star]

[proven jasper]

[pliant silo]

dungeon slice?

[novel star]

WHEN ARE YOU GOING UNDER 30 ENERGY IN AOE

[pliant silo]

man u have IRL problems muted

[nova aspen]

dude calm down

[novel star]

ITS CLEARLY SINGLE TARGET

[spring sigil]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/draenor/theft

Is there anything i could massively change here to improve my boss ST damage?

[novel star]

its f ine

[heavy canopy]

It’s much more than 0.2% if you need your tea charges during an encounter

[pliant silo]

any humans want to answer?

[wet storm]

this guy is crashing out

[thorn fjord]

Running a CT/ TTB build that really boosted my ST on the worm

[pliant silo]

this dude is weird

[proven jasper]

0.2

[novel star]

i am yeah my bad

[heavy canopy]

We don’t play perfectly like the sims

[balmy condor]

he was answering fine, could've just read it the first time

[novel star]

people who dont fucking read upset me sometimes

[severe sparrow]

im fuckin glad i opened this chat for lunch break ill tell u hwat

[novel star]

sorry

[balmy condor]

but it's single target

[bleak spoke]

single target, because if you're somehow under 30 energy in AOE, i think this tea change will improve your life in a way

[balmy condor]

^

[bleak spoke]

and allow you to rupture literally anything

[novel star]

[nova aspen]

remind me what ttb is again

[proven jasper]

[thorn fjord]

Tiny toxic blade

[hollow stone]

You single? I like how you think

[balmy condor]

if you're below 30 energy in aoe you're in for a life changing experience

[normal mist]

Oliiii gets hated every day

[pliant silo]

I did read the first time 🙂 you didn't say this

[normal mist]

poor olii

[pliant silo]

ty

[novel star]

i deserve it lmao

[nova aspen]

oo ok, can u send me the build?

[novel star]

[bleak spoke]

[tacit otter]

oh okey again ty

[normal mist]

We love you tho

[balmy condor]

it's implied cause you're perma 300 energy in aoe :)

[pliant silo]

m+ is a continous flowing overall damage

[heavy canopy]

I’d much rather I can reach 30 energy say when a boss spawns a big add that needs to be bursted

[pliant silo]

and there are frequently a single survivor on a pack

and I will go ooe on it

I do not want to burn tea

[balmy condor]

skill issue

[pliant silo]

bad change, thanks for reading

[bleak spoke]

okay, so where did the energy from the other mobs dying with rupture on them go

[heavy canopy]

But now it’ll auto-proc tea when it isn’t necessary

[pliant silo]

actually not skill issue

[normal mist]

just don't spam

[pliant silo]

lowering the skill cap on the class is bad

[proven jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-awkward-awkward-cat-cat-awkward-gif-24906225

[thorn fjord]

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZmZmZmxyMAAAAAAMbw2MAAAAAA022MzwDMzYMzMLzyMjZGYYmxYmNLjZAWMLDMgFwywEYYA

[pliant silo]

let me pop tea myself ty

[novel star]

so if theres one enemy left

youre fighting

a single target fight

against that single target

that is alive

[bleak spoke]

actually this raises it because you have to be cognizant of pooling above 30 if we want to be technical

[pliant silo]

automatic garbage on a short dps buff that I want to control

sick

[heavy canopy]

They could maybe have auto-proc be a toggle on the ability

[balmy condor]

[proven jasper]

No you don’t understand its aoe but also single target but also aoe

[balmy condor]

dude just cannot accept change

[nova aspen]

tyty

[novel star]

I MUST cry in discord because im losing 0.2% dps because im too lazy to minmax

[proven jasper]

[novel star]

I MUST!

[thorn fjord]

What is happening

[normal mist]

idk

[balmy condor]

people bitching about tea

again

for the 900th time

[novel star]

bet this fella is not doing the 0.3% ct st minmax btw

[normal mist]

oh the usual

[proven jasper]

we off percs in this mf

[thorn fjord]

Oh

[hollow stone]

This has to be a super effective troll at this point

[nova aspen]

hey cognizant is my guild name

[novel star]

but is crying about 0.2% tea minmax

interesting!

[proven jasper]

can i cry about dust delete in here

[novel star]

[hollow stone]

Popcorning so hard rn

[normal mist]

ill allow it

[bleak spoke]

does the guild name hold true in raid

[heavy canopy]

Y’all are such toxic people lmao

[pliant silo]

pretty objectively bad change dunno

[novel star]

im taking out my anger in here because of mythic plus im sorry.

[thorn fjord]

It’s a wow discord how could we not be toxic

[nova aspen]

[balmy condor]

"pretty objectively" it's a nothing burger of a change

[copper shore]

rogues and poison = toxic

[balmy condor]

like numerical

this is a nothing change

[proven jasper]

You’d understand if you could fathom the amount of people who have cried about a completely negligible change

[copper shore]

we are just RPing imo

[bleak spoke]

i don't think i'm being toxic, though i want to be, because i'm sad echoing is going away

[novel star]

shut it with the math bro

it feels bad

[balmy condor]

real

[novel star]

it gets usage once again

[heavy canopy]

It’s not negligible if you’re actively relying on tea for your rotation in a fight

[balmy condor]

it is

we have numbers for this

it's not an enigma

[heavy canopy]

Like I’m pooling as best I can, but sometimes I need to burst a mob and spend all my energy

[thorn fjord]

Who relying on tea?

[normal mist]

UK people

[thorn fjord]

I laughed thanks

[severe sparrow]

are you relying on tea?

[novel star]

if you are using tea because you feel bad that your energy is low outside of cds, im sorry to inform you but you do not know how to press tea

[heavy canopy]

So for the upcoming CD window, I’d like to have tea charges

[novel star]

and this 0.2% loss for auto tea is actually a 0% loss

[bleak spoke]

okay so in scenarios like that, it should be possible to rupture that mob for energy yeah

[novel star]

because youre already pressing it wrong

[severe sparrow]

like your dps is RELYING on having tea?

[hot jay]

With the patch how should I be using tea in cooldowns if energy is not needed? Do you only use one tea charge per kingsbane or do you double up if available? Across the 14 seconds of KB

[balmy condor]

can macro to shiv

[heavy canopy]

Tea for CD window ofc

[bleak spoke]

like what are you bursting that won't live long enough for rupture to have value on it @heavy canopy

[hot jay]

Is it bad to double up on the first one? To make the mastery buff cover the whole window

[balmy condor]

no it isn't, that's why I said you can macro it

[heavy canopy]

If you tell me you never hit a CD window with 0 energy sometimes, you’re playing for parses and not for clears

[hot jay]

Ah

[keen spruce]

does anyone know how to do custom animations on WA?

[novel star]

yea but if auto tea procs outside of your cds its basically not even a loss though

[proven jasper]

[keen spruce]

I have code I want to use

[novel star]

thats the point

like

[keen spruce]

but Idk where to put it

[balmy condor]

what does tea have to do with this?

[novel star]

how bad it is to auto tea at a time when you would never usually press tea

has already been simmed

[heavy canopy]

I won’t have tea for my CD window if it auto-uses beforehand

[gentle badger]

Master assassin with last 3 seconds of kingsbane right

[thorn fjord]

Not the end of the world

[severe sparrow]

the feelycraft is real

[thorn fjord]

Like not even remotely close

[novel star]

which is how much of a dps loss exactly

[proven jasper]

doesnt really change anything when you have infinite energy during deathmark

[heavy canopy]

More than 0.2% DPS decrease is all I’m saying

[spice surge]

No

[severe sparrow]

[spice surge]

Its not

[novel star]

but why do you believe its more than 0.2% when the sim doing that EXACT THING shows 0.2%

?

[severe sparrow]

the sims

we have them

[novel star]

once again, the 0.2 number wasnt just invented

this was simmed

[heavy canopy]

The sims aren’t bursting adds ffs

[thorn fjord]

Robots are stupid and I’ll never listen to them

[novel star]

[spice surge]

Or well ye, if you purposefully do it everytime

[heavy canopy]

Y’all are so sim simps

[bleak spoke]

i think in a scenario where you're hard swapping like that, if you're low energy, you should probably be casting muti rupture and not muti envenom, because if it lives long enough for you to finish again, then that rupture would have literally been more damage

[heavy canopy]

Fair point

[thorn fjord]

Brother we’re trying to help you see the way

[novel star]

what does this have to do with anything though

[proven jasper]

[hot jay]

I'm still a bit new to assassination, is there an actual reason you might find yourself spending energy to below 30 outside of CDs? As a noob to assassination I don't see what the uproar is about

Regarding tea

[quartz cobalt]

ST it can happen

[balmy condor]

okay but your damage is the same

[bleak spoke]

@balmy condor how long does something have to last for it to be worth raw garrote btw

[heavy canopy]

Sims lose 0.2% cause they can pool ffs

[balmy condor]

okay now we're going even deeper

[novel star]

but

what

[severe sparrow]

if youre bursting adds why are you out of energy

[lethal arrow]

I imagine it's because ppl are used to pressing it with kingsbane

[pliant silo]

I think there are just people discussing different target counts, like I don't want a shitty single-target tea usage because I was low energy on one mob when my tea CD became available - I want it to burst the next pack

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

sims lose 0.2% from playing perfectly, and your argument is that humans don't play perfectly, which means the auto tea is better

[pliant silo]

is the usage of tea on a single mob right before a 12mob pull a 0.2% loss?

[copper shore]

isnt m+ all about maintenance and venomous wounds for energy

[pliant silo]

for overall dps in m+

[copper shore]

plan ahead etc

[novel star]

i dont think one tea being timed a lil better is adding as much to the burst as u think it is tho

[bleak spoke]

yes

which is why ultimately this doesn't affect you much

[thorn fjord]

It’s going to be so spicy in here on Wednesday

I can’t wait

[bleak spoke]

unless you're misplaying fairly severely

[copper shore]

for me the difference is tanks. you have tanks and tanks if you know what I mean

[thorn fjord]

Bets on whether we go slow mode or not?

[hollow stone]

how much do you gain from the mastery buff from tea in 12t pulls?

[balmy condor]

this isn't stupid, this is ADVANCED stupid

[novel star]

100% chance

[proven jasper]

10000%

not even a question

[cobalt sphinx]

I sometimes use tea for energy to set up when i swap to stitchflesh

[novel star]

Im advanced stupid but i can at least look at the sims and repeat information like a parrot

These ppl overcook every thought

i dont understand

[runic hinge]

12 mob pull you’re gonna have infinite energy.

[novel star]

the robot is so useful

[hot jay]

Am I misunderstanding our outside-of-cd priorities? I don't see how you'd drop below 30 energy if your not mashing into an active kingsbane

Pooling is chill?

[thorn fjord]

Breh I press tea whenever I press a finisher and it doesn’t send

Who cares lmaoo

[royal lantern]

watch me

(forgot to apply poisons)

[hollow stone]

you wont if you are monitoring properly

[thorn fjord]

Did you see my message? Ily

[lethal arrow]

Well youre encouraged to just mash mutilates for envenom uptime, so being below 30 happens occasionally

[cobalt sphinx]

I think the guy is saying he needs tea for a target swap when he’s out of energy and you can’t sim that

[severe sparrow]

i think the one dude is saying like at the end of a pack? when there's one mob left or something?

idk

[novel star]

sure but where does the "i cant pool because im bursting adds" come in to that

[severe sparrow]

idk why youd send a tea on that

[novel star]

cause if theres a target swap coming up that you want to pre plan for

surely you plan for it by pooling

?

[balmy condor]

you totally can, I'm just not going to waste my time on it

[novel star]

and then that pooling avoids the autotea

idk

i was also an auto tea denier at first but it seems like the numbers just dont align with that opinion

so i moved on from it

[copper shore]

my approach exactly

pre plan

[hollow stone]

tbf, it SOUNDS like a bad change

[novel star]

Ye fs

but its not actually

idk

[hollow stone]

yea

[severe sparrow]

i probably fuck up more teas than this is going to waste tbh

idk

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/VEwt8Hx.png 6t1m if you took soothing darkness instead of tea

[molten flicker]

u guys have tea?

[bleak spoke]

oooooo scary

[novel star]

Dawg

[cobalt sphinx]

You can accidentally burn your final tea 40 seconds before a target swap happens and you might not have one sure

[pallid bough]

Idk maybe make a toggle that doesn’t let you consume tea auto

[pliant silo]

"this change that removes skillcap and minor decision making for your easy spec is "only" a small loss!" - math guys
sick, so it's a bad change which was the original question

[pallid bough]

[hot jay]

Last question before I return back to my quiet cubicle, is it ever an acceptable action to rupture something that is literally going to die right after your cast to refill energy? Or is that a trap behavior and always bad?

[bleak spoke]

i actually completely agree with you here why is this not a choice node

[novel star]

Legit

[spice spire]

If it dies within 7s it’s bad

[runic hinge]

It’s only a loss if you play badly. So just play better.

[spice spire]

Anything after it’s good

[novel star]

oh no man i feel so bad that the game pressed a tea for me that gave me full energy value

how can i recover

[ashen scroll]

Nah, whispyr spent 100hrs doing theory crafting this patch but specifically made 0.2% up. he's trying to drink your tea

[bleak spoke]

i'm gonna be real like, i literally just hit tea when i'm bored on a boss

[pliant silo]

and it's a gain... when exactly?

[bleak spoke]

and i want to press buttons

[cobalt sphinx]

Yeah i think that’s pretty common, quite good on some fights too like grand splicer

[bleak spoke]

[pliant silo]

when is it beneficial

[novel star]

ignore the 90 energy overcapping 2nd tea i pressed in my opener

[pliant silo]

when someone human errors

[balmy condor]

but doesn't it add skillcap to avoid proccing it for a small gain

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

I don't get it

[spice spire]

Incredibly based behavior

(I do the same)

[bleak spoke]

adhd is hard

[thorn fjord]

@balmy condor you running ttb in keys?

[pliant silo]

small reverse gain where it's the same as now aka nerfed unless doing an extra layer of mental gym

[balmy condor]

ttb? hell no

[novel star]

even on live tea timing is pretty fucking small as long as you get full energy no?

[thorn fjord]

Word

[meager echo]

guys, with 2-3 targets you use garrote > garrote > rupture > rupture > garrote > garrote overlapping the bleeds on the targets or just a garrote > rupture to apply the bleeds and continue with the rotation. The question is the goal just apply the bleeds and continue with the rotation or it is worth overlapping the bleeds due to the damage from the improved garrote/suffocation for ex.

[runic hinge]

You’re doing a lot of mental gym now.

[spice spire]

But you said removing skill cap and minor decision making

Isn’t that

[runic hinge]

Could save that for your tea usage