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Shiv last 8 seconds of KB
How do you guys kick stuff in m+ do you use mouse over kick or sum
I'm trying stick on one target so I can blast w caustic
Hard to tab target properly
for the 2nd half of kingsbane, and then 1x outside of kingsbane (cus it will be up for KB again, 25sec cd and stuff)
mouseover macro focus. focus kick
i have my macro on my middle mouse button and just throw it on the most dangerous caster
i just tab or click tbh
yeah same
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fLE2ce63rRBG1ZnqYDamqN it tells me that the hast trinket is best for me? is that really true? did I do some mistake?
reccomend getting a focus macro and focus kick macro
but usually just tab target for me
among all the available builds, is there one easier to play than another for raid ? i just switched back from subtlety and can't remember anything about current assa xD
not really
Feels like i'm always out of energy with bleed build
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
Take icy vein guide, read the rotation part, go stand at a puppet and just practice it. The rotation, especially opener takes a while to get since it's a bunch of buttons. I even had it open on the 2nd screen during raid lol.
Just do that and you'll be better than most fast
what are the soft and hard dr cap (or whatever it's called) for haste?
Ideally you wanna stay above 150 energy in single target ?
no
you maximize envenom uptime
and if you play with sanguine bladess, you avoide being above 150 energy
!pooling
Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom
- For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
how does staying under 50% lead to more envenoms? as long as you dont waste energy you should get the same right?
because it means you actually use your energy for abilitys
if you have sanguine and go above 50% it'll eat your energy
yeah but if you spend 1000 energy either way isnt it the same? as long as none was wasted?
and if you play with sanguine blades, you lose energy if you go above 50% cus sanguine blades then eats energy that could have been envenoms away
and in ST builds, you play vicious venoms
which means mut/ambushs more dmg
so you wanna use mut/ambush more often
aka use energy
well if you dont play sanguine blades does it matter?
No but that isn’t the point made
The whole thing started by saying “if you play with sanguine blades”
if you play sanguine bladess, you dont wanna be above 50% cus sanguine blades eatss energy
if you dont play it (aka raid builds) you dont wanna be above 50% cus you could use the energy for doing dmg with envenom/re-proccing DN faster
like, just see 50% energy as the "i should use abilitys now" mark
Is there a general gemming guide anywhere?
Whatever the sims provide
Yeah that note isn’t worded or explained very well at all
We like all stats so the only real guide you get is by simming unfortunately
I found a damage decrease if I dropped below 10% haste but that’s with the gear I got
In m+ that was
allright?
is this your own personal anecdote or is this from a sim?
Sim said
I would do more with something I replaced but I went to re sim it and it took an hour
Haste loses value in aoe no?
do we still use bubblin wax mh? or manaoil/whetstone better?
But before my overall was like 1.3 and after it was 1
Mil
I don’t know I hate the spec but outlaw isn’t even comparable anymore 😦
Stats aren’t real they can’t hurt you
mate you dont lose 300k dps cus of 2% more or less in a stat

Whetstone was always better
sounds more like a error
But bubbling wax is decent
in your inputs
ye, wax is the "kinda free" alternative
double whetstone is the best, Wax+whetstone or Wax+oil is like 0,2-0,3% worse
I’m dunno I’m an average player just looking to improve
!restealth
Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:
- Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
- Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
- Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
- While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
- You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
Not me, I'm at the peak
I’ve seen ur logs king
Don't log stalk me
0 means nobody can reach me
The real reason I play nelf is for the resealths on trash 
lots of ST sanguine in raids
Which fight lol
first boss
lets just say
i was a bit to fast with the "run back" on the group pull

That was my prog sikran kill hehehe
We’re private logging now tho
So all my juicy parses are wasted
Was about to say, why do some people opt for improved garrote/sanguine over vicious venoms? Is there just small difference in dmg and preference over playstyle?
It sims higher for them
Or they like it more
Overall theres very little difference
It sims higher for me now and I prefer it
Fuck didn’t even think of that
I can’t do dmg playing VV for whatever reason
assa has like, 20000 different "builds" that is swapping bettwen a couple talents, cus they all are so extremely close to eachother
Guess I’ll go sim
I don’t mind adapting just really didn’t know the reason why
This might be a stupid question but, how does Echoing Reprimand work? The tooltip is all over the place.
Preference really at this point
is skardyns not bis for sin anymore?
it is
You land on blue cp and it sends as full
Don’t need to send in any order
If it lands on blue send
just checking the Fuu sims, says transmitter and sacbrood
Transmitter is a meme don’t @ me
But for what it’s worth my 606 Grace still sims higher than any other non mythic option
Am i missing something, or why Sudden Demise doesnt proc some times?
will logs normalize the raid buff?
ok, that is what I have been doing. Thanks for clearing it up!
the "execute" is like 2-3% of your dmg in most dungeons, if at all
i.e remove it basically
if you use bubbling wax in main hand what should you use in your offhand?
huh
MUCH cheaper hehe
I dropped to 7k gold Sunday lol
Had to buy a token
Was holding out for anniversary
Hoping token goes up for that… it should
In logs enemies die from something else, when they have bleed on them.
algari mana oil right?
Yes
sick ty
again, the threshold is really really low
most of the time it doesnt do anything
you play the talent cus of the 10% bleed dmg
not for the "execute"
that part is just a very small QoL thing that makes a small part of your bleed dmg not fully wasted
At 35%, if bleed that left extends(?) there HP multiplied by 150%(?) - they die, isnt it?
yes
reminder that your bleeds sdont do millions of dmg
and that enemys literally HAVE millions of hp
But some times i can see 1-2 mil damage from sudden death... i want more executions... 😦
do you guys have cold blood macrod to anything?
Envenom
deadass?
yeah
i mean it make ssense tbh
Your first env should be without CB though then you can use the macro for the rest of the fight
Hello guys is there a way to have ambush / mutilate on one key depending on the ambush out of stealth proc ?
it auto changes for you
Oh my bad the tooltip doesn't change cause i have a startattack macro
fuck me ty
forgot
any1 got any cooks for ptr M+ and raid builds?
why do people use a startattack macro? doesn't casting a spell already do that?
I dont even know what that is
classic players maybe
You put /startattack at the end of a spell in a macro so you start auto attacking
theres a few reasons, but one is that if oyure out of range when you hit Mutilate, you want to auto as soon as you get in range
its a bit of a relic of older timers
yeah been using that for ages never changed
basically it does nothing
dont overcook it
Think you'll auto attack now if you're in combat
Also lets say if u have no energy instead of standing spammin mutilate it just starts aa i think
Yeah that is absolutely not true
Correct

You should have it in your macros, it's good, don't question it
my god i've never seen worse 2400io players in my life than this season. Imagine not knowing you need to direct your flame to destroy earth spikes first boss stonevault
Your rogue ancestors did it, and you will to
This season has been pretty cancerous
I have been doing that, just don't know why we do that
technically you are supposed to break 2 each time
and leave one
but pugs fuck it up
yeah, image I saw said that
you dont do that for like 15years now
lmao

first raid of this expansion after a break
👴
parsing 64
with my 570 gear
feels old man
ilvl parse
do you parse higher if you use potion?
its actually best to break all every other and leave the ones up for the slam
generally yes because potions add damage
if you pot and die you don't parse higher 
was asking because I think I have two logs that were roughly equal in terms of rotation, but one parsed significantly higher
And I used the potion in one of those logs
cant say without seeing the logs
anyone know if auth of radiant power stacks? like is it better to have 1 wep w/ depths and 1 w/ power or both weps w/ same enchant depending on content?
pots are like 2%? idk
why?
What's the budget version of Ironclaw Whetstone?
algari mana oil
!wax
- Can be pickpocketed from kobolds in e.g. The Ringing Deeps. (needs The Final Candle questline completed.)
- Only use it on one weapon. (does not stack)
Or mana oil
arent rank 2s like 100g
Anything exciting for the next patch?
feint off gcd
you can take slice and dice off your bars
Definitely a plus
certain talents add on, instead of overlap
500g on Twisting Nether
Thank you!
1 nullstone per 4 without procs, so no way 100g, nullstones hardlock the lower bound
you should remove start attack from that macro as it can POTENTIALLY pop you out of stealth early if you auto before ambush
obv you do you, but I would recommend that
agreed
Don’t you start auto attacking automatically after using an ability
This is what i understood but someone said no?
Pretty sure theyre wrong tho
but im not going to argue
Who said it didnt?
Burgah
yes
for like 15years now
"manualy pressing start auto attacks" has not been a thing for more time then 80% of the playerbase actually plays the game now
hehe
Weird thinking I was a freshman in college when wow dropped
BUT HERE WE ARE OLD AF
wtf old
Sorry i was a senior in highschool
I was in my sandbox when wow dropped
i was a mage main till WoD then I joined THE SHADOWS
can anyone hook me up with the ability sequences inside of KB talking about tea and shiv
i cant seem to find it on wowehad
head
Tea if you need energy during shiv
the seconds of whien i click
DM>shiv>kb, shiv again with 8 seconds left on kb
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offtopic, but where is the best place to search for ppl to join for m+? Like I need a team to push with, this puglife is killing me
is there any community?
11 GB was going so well, and then we hit the hallway going to dragon boss
ah ok thats not how it was in df
xd
tysm
Raiderio has a LFG thing
otherwise my best advice and the one from anyone will be add bnet people you got good exp with in m+ and go vibe together
tea when you need energy during shiv, making sure you're not overcapping or just spamming tea
and only during shiv
and not with shiv every time either
was there some change to Heaving Wretch in NW on the first boss? I was just doing an 11 and had the breath hit for 17mil through my evasion. We basically had timed Clos and Evasion to avoid the 1 shot
noted
Damn my parse on heoric court is crap
the true immune from the first second of cloak works
right, that is why i said time Clos. which means if you get targeted 2+ times we used to be in a bad spot. Evasion was working prior to reset, so we had to CDs
timed* / two

idk what Clos is bro sorry
Cloak of Shadows
I was facing him, because I was stabbing him 🙂
Someone is good in addons here ?
I mean maybe
Is Depths quite a big ST increase vs Radiant power
Pretty broad topic area, what's your question?
It looks like bigwigs
but
you can type this: /framestack and it will show the name of every frame under your cursor (it will make your screen go crazy, heads up)
mouse over them, and it will have a frame name, and that can give you a hint
But, I would check bigwigs first
Nah they’re close

In mythic+, do you shiv instead during the last 8 seconds of kingsbane, or do you shiv before KB? This is one charge kingsbane mythic+
@slate crownThanks for the answer, i will check that
Any big changes for assassin next Tuesday?
No more er
how good is naked kingsbane im mplus btw
Some QoL stuff
is it worth running double on use
KB is good but its not everything
Subterfuge extends like everything
But no boost in dps.
yes its our best trinket atm
Grace yeah
Hey Guys, about crafting: I would start with Crafting a Dagger, but how do you decide on the second item?
does it matter?
My champion 619 simms better than all my 626 ones so ya
nice

You can sim it, but likely belt/boots/bracers/cloak/ring/neck
Are options depending on what other items you have
If you have shitty boots then theyre a good craft for example
I mean.. not wasting a global on slice and dice sounds like a DPS gain, not wasting a global on RC sounds like a gain 🙂
Thanks! So there is no specific slot, just go with what brings most
RC?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=220156/bubbling-wax what is that guys?
Requires Rogue. It is looted and a quest reward. In the Item Enhancements (Temporary) category. Added in World of Warcraft: The War Within. Always up to date.
Resounding Clarity
you mean ER
errr yea Reprimand
That’s true
yea that 1 huge gcd
When does the snd and feint changes go live?
next reset
Thank you
!wax it's this
- Can be pickpocketed from kobolds in e.g. The Ringing Deeps. (needs The Final Candle questline completed.)
- Only use it on one weapon. (does not stack)
ty mate
!embellish
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
no

whats sad
any thoughts on this?
when do I vanish with MA
Dont think I've seen someone actually play MA anymore
There’s 500 permutations
Of stuff that works
No thoughts only saying “sim and see which is better”
sims 3k better for me
🙂
!tea
Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:
- Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
- Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
- Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
- While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
- You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
All talents are shitty enough they’re close to equal
anyone know if it would be worthwhile to run Treacherous Transmitter and Skardyn's grace and just alternate them usiong one with death mark and kb and the other with just KB?
but didnt sim it myself yet lets see
It exists and is indeed something you can do
And if you have that combo
It’s probably better to do it that way
hmm do you think it could outperform using sacbrood?
Idk possibly
@sullen mural
Pseudo cold blood 
Vanish envenom (not on dn)
no diff or wat
at end of kingsbane
I legitimately think it’s just a kb amp
yeah it is
Even if kb is GIGA nerfed
and to refresh
Can’t you just
bro dont post your name i here lol
Why not
wat
Who actually cares enough
quick noob question. Caustic spatter just needs to be refreshed right. So if theres like 10 mobs, Im FoKing but lsipping a mut in there every so often?
Gonna hunt you down and eat your ass
buckrogue on int list
anyone know why posion pact ring is simming worse than my current rings
got 2 mast/crit rings
yes
So I guess I could answer my own question here by checking logs and seeing if my uptime is good, but do yall track envenom buff? I purple and orange parse, but the other rogue in my group asked me last night about how I handle refreshing, and I didn’t know how to answer him because I don’t track it, i just always assumed unless bleeds need reapplied you don’t care and slam envenom.
Exactly
sim was 40k iterations
Hate raiding with my ret paladin mate. presses 2 buttons, does top damage, literally a range dps xD
Any suggestions for a good plater on assa?
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I’m also sure that it’ll become more important with the new changes come Tuesday, with double twist but 🤷♂️
you eventually run out of energy if you just slam envenoms tbh
Cause i feel like it should be an increase. for ST it is but aoe it aint
is it worth takeing this for now even if its an downgrade?
Isn’t that supposed to happen when playing Deathstalker? Thought we liked being under 50% energy
Mike hunt
proc doesnt do good aoe damage
mastery is giga in aoe
Did you have the effect checked on ur sim
Aight so i just swap my rings out for aoe and st
I've crafted Wrists and Waist with embellishments at 636 and I have two BiS Hero-track daggers - do I craft a 636 dagger, or do I just use a Hero track dagger?
if you keep spamming envenoms you eventually get to a point of 0 energy 0 cp and your envenom drops while you rebuild
which is worse than maintaining
Mqm seems good for m+ right?
Fair, I guess this is what’s keeping my 97s from being 99-100s 😂😂
636 > 626 and that’s our best spot 
Ur bis weapon is just
A 639
My friends are saying it's bad cause it's 90 wasted crests if I get a Myth dagger
I mean
Yeah
Or rng tbh
i don’t see your logs but i suspect your ilvl is carrying your logs if you’re not playing around your buff uptime
u might be cooking
Sin has RNG outside of playing fatebound lmao? Or do you mean getting mechanics
Mechanics and procs etc
Seal fate
There’s not a lot of rng but there is some
Blindside rng is my fav
you can just low roll crit luck and blindside procs
I love mutilating 3x
and go oom super hard
If it procs on first mutilate in the pull its so good
If the pull starts and I see free ambush i always feel amazing
My favorite is the infamous 4 mut for dn
fair fair, I just didn’t think pooling whatsoever was worth for Deathstalker, guess I should fix that a little bit
In last seconds of kingsbane or
What was the kill time
Hmm will keep it in mind, tbf I guess that’s the downside to seeing the pretty color numbers on WowLogs and going yup, this is fine.
4:58
nah just normal
pandemic on garrote
vanish at 14 sec
I like vv tho
yeah
not like you perform to your sim anyways
It’s 14s every time
those 13k dps dont matter
It’s just for garrote
Xdddd
unless ur a chad like me 😤
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Do you
Is this a simtrap, it even outsims so called Bis trinkets
Yeah im close aswell
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brood talents
Raid or
m+
use on 2 if specced im p sure
Hey! is Lingering darkness on a cd?
Yeah 2 in m+
i turned 16 in as well and my % was still 0 probably bugged
2t
The thing is bugged... Saying 0% for everyone
But im psure it was working tho
They released a statement saying it’s working but tooltip bugged
THATS WHAT I SAID GUYS GAWD
Yeah but you didn’t say it in blue
its 2.2% each 16 ? what is the cap for it
its 3%
There is no spoon Tony
Wonder how they even landed on the 2.25% number
good to know
Random
yeah it was datamined but ended up not being right
maybe they had the number they wanted it to end at and divided it by the weeks
idk
its blizzard
they probably used a random number generator
thatd be dope
18% is a lot tho
Just like me fr
Instead of nerfing bosses to the ground they’re buffing the raid groups
Will it work? Find out on the next episode of DBZ
hi all 5 targets before using crimson temp or 3 ?
its limited by its hero track; its not a bad trinket
same as ritual blade
not much different than puzzle box and people played that
Anyone who’s good with UI’s?
i really want better parses in raid D:
what to do when sims show using 2 on use trinkets is better
in keys, do you open with ambush or garrote in packs? not sure what to do, first time playing
Ambush if you don’t have darkest night or deathstalker marks rolling
Otherwise garrote
ah good, happy my reaction was on point
Is 1.238M DPS about right for 625 itlvl?
Does DN proc take higher priority than CT on the opener?
did you parse good?
then you're doing good dps
80 = you did a better job than 80% of the rogues that parsed that boss
80 = bad is kinda weird
since nerubar finery is warbound, could you not turn the quest in on multiple characters to get more buff?
80 isn’t bad 
think my friend is getting to me since he's playing ret pala and has all high 90s xD
you CANT compare rogue to paladin
I do hate his range for a melee dps lol
Ret pally is playing on ez mode
our ret paladin hekili's 98's in every hc reclear lol
Unless your guild is letting you pad on brood don’t worry about your parse
same here with my retri
98s 99s every fight
Does feint work on voidrush in COT?
only with elusiveness ig
That makes me feel better xD
i use elusiveness on cot cause of those dots
what exactly about deathstalker makes it so you want to be under 50% energy? i dont see anything in the hero tree that relates to energy
80% of Rets can’t tie their own shoes so parsing surely must be easier
My guild has 3 warriors and a dk so me parsing on brood is impossible
Its just about using your energy and keeping a good envenom buff uptime
It just means you’re spending energy to keep envenom up and getting to your darkest night cats
can someone help me make sense how ascendance + dawnthread sims higher than ascendance + duskthread? (both ST and DS)
isnt that 50% figure a bit misleading then?
The way i play, even if i didnt read that part, i'd be below 50% nontheless
duskthread is the nerubian buff yes?
Hi fellow rogues, silly question if I'm not running improved garrote and master assassin. What do I use vanish for? Ambush?
Ambush if your mark falls off
else just save ?
Pretty much
These cursed enchants really dont sim that well for me
tyty!
yeah i agree, i have the same experience.
Losing stats is bad if we like all stats
Crazy right?
I think it’s worded that way so people don’t pool back to 70 or 80% like we used to. You can just pool a little if your chain drops and restart
My face after I farted and a lil bit of poo comes out
Got Umbriss band from my last GB. 
I don’t really have energy problems in ST anyways
@balmy condor @spice spire we switched strat and i didnt have to grief lust cds, ended up with rank 7 boss, 8 overall on the kill. first pull of the night and it dies anticlimactically :l
You wild for that ngl
Happens to the best of us breh
ive noticed when its time to reapply garrote and rupture I dip really low on energy. i have suspicion that I should be pooling higher than 50% when this happens
also envenom gets harder to maintain
Do you hold teas or just send like in DF
Sitting here waiting for my boss to leave so I can run keys
aint gonna matter next week
I send them when i need energy but will make sure I have atleast one for kb usually
passive tea next week
Yeah same. I don’t do the shiv thing. Too ingrained to press when I need energy
you can still use tea like normal
I have tea and shiv macro'd
You can still press the button next week
wait really?
Yes
So if i hit shiv and tea is available its going
yes
doesnt it procc on its own though
Yes
when u go unedr 50%?
30
so u gotta maintain 30 energy huh
new minigame
im going to be honest, i dont think i like the tea change
take away ER to give us tea minigame lmfao
I havent gotten rid of the shiv+tea macro tho... so theres that
I mean it’s not really a mini game
You can just full send and it’s fine. Energy is the large majority of the value of tea
The mastery is whatever
i mean ye but i like holding it if i know a cd is comin up
We trying to press buttons out here
meh
The sim difference between full sending and staying above 30 is gonna be like .4%
yeah it wont matter
i guess
If that
gotta get used to subterfuge as well or?
.4 isnt nothing
should i bind transmitter to deathmark
It’s not nothing but if I send one on first kb I’ll have one for every kb regardless
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I’m not usually sending 2 teas in a kb
all the little tiny optimizations are like .3 or .4
I do cause of the macro
But its not a huge issue
i just dont think its that binary. Its not hard to not full send tea
i will yolo use 1 charge occasionally
when i think i will drop envenom
Correct but sometimes I wanna press buttons or I am running low cause I had to refresh both bleeds or I hit 4 muts in a row to get to 7 and now I need to hit garrote
Like
Like I said the energy is like >80% of the value of tea
yeah refreshing mark is rough some times
It’s not purely passive
You can just keep it and use it as necessary if you’re worried about it
Just can’t hit 30 >:3
Wait, bro saying 0.3% adds up and then admits to playing it wrong
Yeah my robot got me at like 21% crit so sometimes it’s a lot of mut to get to 7 
Crazy work
is using a single charge sometimes wrong?
i saw speed having some countdown on like demolisher slams, and ground pounds in SV how do u set this up with text to speech is it just weakauras or something else?
Hi @balmy condor
i thought you need 2
anyone know what he uses?
70 energy per mutilate
can set it up in bigwigs/dbm
Hi @balmy condor
I'm sure there's WA for it too
im confused, we have 3 charges
for duengon mobs?
yeah
2 cover the kingsbane window
ok
I just don’t care
hm
How's sin gonna go with supercharger instead of ER
It’s gonna go for sure
BREAKING THE LAW IM BREAKING THE LAW
Probably really well
You hold all 3 charges just for tea
into the trash unfortunately. time to reroll survival hunter
You’re wrong
Time to go enh shaman 😔
If you’re not blasting all 3 charges at the start of the pull
You don’t know the tech
I’ve never been wrong
We do indeed
i tea between packs to RP as a british person
Bro slice and dice as passive are we so back?
Pinkies up
Jesus I’m not playing again until Tuesday
Make sure yall equip your one handed swords / maced while your pooling
To get the most dps
still not passive
sword is just a big dagger anyway
its just a diffrent button

sub still having moments where theey need to hardcast SnD is soooo fucked 
Feint is gonna be great, tea changes gonna be awful for someone like me having to constantly watch my energy to make sure I don't auto proc 😭
its not that what i mean
you don't hard cast it in 11.0.5
I'm tea-maxxing and subterfuge-pilled. I'm in my master assassin arc
U ever feel like a plastic bag drifting in the wind?
I want to be smothered by Katty Parry's plastic bags

Okay you’re unhinged af today
LMFAO
hey
Death by snu snu
One can only dream
what is happening
It’s called gooning get with the times
OT #2
using evis instead is better as it removes a keybind, i prefered premeditation for applying it
Buncha goofers
Holy fuck I hate autocorrect
goofing is 10x better than gooning
So what happens to premed now actually
I never goof when I’m talking about gooning
Open chat
someone using tea wrong
dooming about auto proc
thatsNotHowWeUseTea.png
45 seconds pass
man I’m gonna need to really watch my energy tea change is awful
brain melts
skull is now a bread bowl for my brain soup
finally happy
I never thought about it
it gvies full cp instead of +2
ah
idk how we even use tea anymore and it seems to be fine
We press the button during shiv for energy
tea is useful for when your tank doesn't let you restealth so you're low on energy 
Dont
DONT

Or u know.d put a few ruptures out
using tea slightly suboptimally really triggers people
rupture maxing 
If we are lacking ad damageo n queen
Yep yep yep
is it worth it to go tempest
who would have thought the game that has a ton of tiny lil micro optimizations would attract people who want to min max
Idc when other people use their buttons, it’s not my parse
i use tea on 2nd shiv because i like using it suboptimally. feelsmaxxing
like drop 2 VV for temp?
i think this question has been asked a lot, but if my darkest night is active, garrote and rupture and envenom falling off , what has the most priority at first ? Darkest night > Rupture > garrote ?
It’s more saying it matters to use it correctly because optimization adds up and then admitting you’re doing it incorrectly
How are u low on ad damage on queen. Which part exactly
But pretending like tea change is some magical void that loses you damage
whispyr don't kill me for this 
Is just fucking dumb
Well not so much lacking damage, more so like they are licving a bit long
phase 3 ones
Lil buigs
I think we run CT on mythic Ovinax
In single target yes, in aoe rup would come first so you could spatter the darkest night
the tea change is a minor annoyance at best
BUT its still kinda stupid and should be a chose 1 node
I mean I press envenom and it does big aoe damage instant vs a dot
@balmy condor whats your favorite flavor of ice cream
we do
Just saying it's more optimal to chain pull on sin rogue
That needs to tick like 3 times to match the envenom damage u just did
Lead
Well yes it will result in a loss of dmg if you're not looking at your energy every time you press a button 
yummy paint
True, but if you say that out loud outlaw rogues will jump you
https://ibb.co/6FWrfpp is this considered good ?
Why it's better on like all the rogue specs 😅
outlaw vanishes like every 20s they can stop crying
i feel like on some bosses my st is a lil bad 
Sure idk
if you are happy with it, its good
Lotta numbers there
All 4 on 626 ilvl, which one do i choose in raid and which ones do i choose for m+? I find it hard to sim them, is it worth for instance to pick skardyn's and Treacherous stransmitter together in a way?
As a sub rogue who someone I’m not gonna name gave us mandatory restealth that lasts 6 fucking seconds I too will riot
Is all I’m saying
I am an outlaw rogue but id rather my tank chain pull than sit there and wait for me to stealth
93% envenom, 93% rupture , 99% garrote
Yeah
i'm actually not 
is acrobatic strikes uptime something to prioritize ?
no
"acro uptime" is just "be in melee range"
which is kinda what you want
okay please don't kill me but i genuinely am stupid. for caustic spatter, your bleeds don't spread right? just your Kingsbane, Envenom, and any deadly poison?
Spec with uptime to maintain has big uptimes, seems reasonable
then you can decide to:
- blame your gear
- blame the strategy/group/fight length
- blame the priest for not giving you pi
decide between the 3
bleeds are not poison
Your poison damage, so yeah, things like poison bomb etc also spatter
i'm gonna spatter
I blame the healer
i think its literally any nature damage we deal
in some bosses it goes higher, this was from first boss of GB, when i'm dropping out the stones, and feinting over every aoe damage, it's a lil pain to maintain everything, at least for me
i
works too
@cinder quartz that is a FOUL emoji
i'll chose 4th option ( i blame my self)
She poison on me till I spatter on jod
YES
you sure you are a wow player?
She spatter on my poison til I kingsbane on her death mark
(just joking)
no actually
she zollin on my dyck til i recipe
im totally going to spatter
( i mainly play dota ) 
damn, not even lol
The ads are living longer than 3 ticks
then again
thats most likely cause we are missing our fury war
lmao
fuu bro you remember me ?
She kingsbane on my sprayer till I tea on her shiv
Tell em to put the rocks down and come back inside
Bars
Now this is the sin chat I missed
@silk bane make it work
brain rot chat?
i used to ask a lot of question from you xD, was a trash sub rogue back then, i think i got into your nerves, you didn't answer my DM's anymore @vestal wren 
I mean don’t dm people just ask in the chat
haha, don't think anyone managed to do that yet
I don’t respond to most dms I get either
ya'll get dms?
its more likely that i lost the message, my mobile phone sometimes marks messages as read
i actually do get some once in a while when i answer a question in here
suddenly the dm's stopped when I dropped the green
or i was busy
Tony doesn’t dm me
it's been pretty blissful recently
wtf
This one's hard
i said babe i've got an improved shiv but she said na thats just a tiny toxic blade
fuu and whispyr is mvp fr
Not enough rizz
Only from the taxation office
i need name help. and it has to have lemon in it
Holy fuck bro u good? Come join us at the gym. It’s liftin time
she laughed at my lightweight shiv and now im ready for a lethal dose
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-1-tr/8522869-10-siege-of-boralus u guys seen this?xddddddddddddddd
3 minute +10 siege
Bros cooking
very legit run
What diabolical witchcraft is this
tourney realm + no rogue in group + no aura
She like the way I envenom so I twist the knife and thistle tea on her death mark
That’s dark af
How
Thats what she said
Actually reading again it might be
what in tarnation, realms down?
i made her scent of blood my singluar focus, and now i taste a fatal concoction despite my sanguine stratagem. improved garrote
Bro put improved garrote there thinking no one notices
wtf is that
U burned the kitchen man
Question on queen
noticed deathmark and KB is up just in time for the last set of pools before boss jumps to middle
should i be hanging onto them
Poetry
and then using during p2?
hold till shield comes out
I hold to send all cd's when she goes to the middle of the room
then send
Good good
hey where cna i check my dawnthread uptime?
i iassume there is a specific spot on the simulation?
psure its under auras
Last question, up on platforms, are you guys dpsing the spiders on the way up
or just running straight to mobs?
details, buffs, look at uptime
FoK like once or twice then straight to main mob
And should i not use DM or KB on platform since mobs die so quick
and just save for spider coming down on p3
if im not online can i find it somehwere on logs or something?
She made me pistol shot her thistle tea so now I gotta keep it rolling
You can get a KB off on one of the adds sure but yeah they die quick
She dance on my evis till i rupture her secret tech
yeah, click your character so it's focused on it on WCL then click buffs and you can see the uptime there as well
Guys fucking hell, help me. I've got 12/16 nerubar finery. I only got 4 last week, and I've got 8 today. How the fuck do I catch up? Tried doing LFR on an alt but didn't get any. What do?
Alt
hit her between the eyes with my airborne irritant then put away my retractable hook
Nope didn't drop
uhm 91% is a bit too much no? prolly cause farm on raid
No from what I've read now seems since I cleared those bosses on my main, I can't get from them
they can drop in lfr, got a bunch on an alt yesterday
if you only got 4 last week, you would need to do a combo of mythic and heroic
from what i know anyways
you want to look for an 80% uptime so that's pretty high yeah
Yeah so today I've killed boss 1,2,3,4,5 on normal, boss 1,2,3 on mythic, and boss 6 on heroic. Stuck at 8 fineries
trying to decide if i should swap to ascenscion
Cause i just did LRF boss 1 on an alt and didn't drop anything
there are dungeon logs, you or someone else in your group has to be logging though
huh apparently on the 3 10s ive done i have 96 parses wtf
dont have a group sadly just pugging
Hey, is spyglass bis trinket for Assa or Sacbrood is the play ?
Sim it
I think theyre close tho
But results may vary
got any advice? ive seen lots of rogues running ascension in M+ with depths at that instead of radiant
suprisingly the DB trinket sims wayy higher for me thatn spyglass
prolly i got 2 much crit cause of dawnthread
spyglass is only better for ST
go figure
Everytime I go to their discord I'm saddened
bears are cool imagine being a chicken
She thrashd on me till I shred
Do they even exist
Birds arent real
can i link a sim and you help me make some sense out of it?
You right
might be reading it wrong
she razed my lunar beam til i had a wild growth
shows that dawnthread+ascension better than double dawnthread and ascension+writhing
Holy shit not the wild growth
She convoked my boomkin and i went feral





