assassination

[cunning basin]

But I'm not 100% sure that's correct

[dapper cradle]

SNIFF

[limber dew]

they have imp garrote active from the opener most of the time,

[cunning basin]

So maybe they're doing it right but just pressing the buttons on cd

[warm vortex]

Just for one or two

to put a spin on the GB experiance

[tulip fern]

yeah im talking about 2nd/3rd use

[sage tiger]

i guess this is my weapon now

[cunning basin]

That's what I figured

[limber dew]

I know Sim yourself can be a frustrating response, but it really is the best way to find out, run a dungeonslice sim, takes a few minutes but will give you the answer ❤️

[dark bluff]

that's bis, grats dude

[cunning basin]

My assumption is it's probably a negligible difference if you hold dm 3 seconds to have improved from the start of it or just reapply during

[tulip fern]

I've been trying to figure it out, but I can't see a good reason other than holding deathmark is bad

[cunning basin]

Probs that

[sharp orchid]

Is sim 100% accurate when it comes these trinkets?

[cunning basin]

I don't run the talent so idk

I just do what whispyr tells me tbh

He's the one that did all the smart people math and sims n shit

[thick sigil]

its beautifull

[sharp orchid]

It is a good response. Was just wondering if they are 100% accurate when it comes to these trinkets

[cunning basin]

You're so hot brother

[tulip fern]

ahh for me its only like 250 dps difference on sim and I figure the extra garrote damage makes it a little better if you get lower uptime but i might just be making that up lol

[limber dew]

they are never 100% accurate, and you will find that each sim will vary its response, however it will run 10s or 100s of thousands of iterations and provide the best AVG. which is going to be as accurate as possible

[cunning basin]

Yeah idk. There's like 10 possible st talent combos you can play so

[limber dew]

this will change depending on gear, etc etc, specific dungeons, mob density etc. for pure aoe you want to do i think 6 targets, or dungeonslice.

[cunning basin]

All depends on what the Almighty simbot tells you to do

[tulip fern]

Might have to try and get Whispyr's attention with at some point, the difference intrigues me

[grim jay]

Its the best way for gearing decisions, yes

[lavish portal]

Spyglass 639 or ritualknife 629 with skardyns 629 for m+🤔

[grim jay]

629 knife

Poggers

[cunning basin]

Knife succ

[coral ibex]

like you can be suspicious of a sim but i'm wondering what alternative you have that is as reliable or predictable

[grim jay]

Brother broke the limitations

[cunning basin]

Take stat away

😠

Me when stat take away: 😠
Me when stat give: 😄

[coral ibex]

the options for figuring out your trinkets are 1. sim 2. use them all and decide based on vibes 3. ask other people what they use

[woven shore]

sim it

[kind forge]

just cloak it

[cunning basin]

Vibes is how I picked between sacbrood and spyglass

[limber dew]

spyglass is great if you can track it properly from my understanding. if you check raider io top 5 rogues, spyglass does have its spot

[cunning basin]

(I equip one randomly every time I enter a dungeon)

[limber dew]

sac brood is up there too 😄

and ofc Grace is king of the hill making its appearance in every single ranked spot 😄

[cunning basin]

Cloak is for uptime

[coral ibex]

my best passive trinket is void contract but the anub crystal is within 0.1% so i could use that if i wanted

[cunning basin]

Ik knife is good but brain gets ANGY when stat take away

[coral ibex]

i like seeing the void dudes pop up tho

[cunning basin]

Trinket supposed to give, not take

[coral ibex]

so i run tthat one

[visual hemlock]

how should i play with Ovi'nax's Mercurial Egg? do i equip it and forget about it?

[limber dew]

i run sac brood and skardyns

[coral ibex]

try to keep either stack below 20

[woven shore]

use on 20stacks

[cunning basin]

I run skardyn's and either contract spyglass or sacbrood depending on which one I accidentally equip

[limber dew]

depends if it sims higher than what you have. It simmed lower than my 619 crystal and skardyns so i just binned it

[cunning basin]

Sometimes when I swap from sub to sin not all of my gear changes and I end up doing a m+ dungeon with like 3 vers mastery pieces and a void reaper's contract instead of my usual setup kek

Mama didn't raise no bitch tho, we ball

[nova aspen]

welcome

here at the coin flip academy we strive to bring out the best in people

[cunning basin]

Coin SUCC

Mark also SUCC

I think I need to sleep it's 930 am gg I'm cooked

[nova aspen]

the sun is out its too late now

stay up to fix schedule

[vocal cradle]

On the first boss in mythic it's better to hold your DN proc when he goes down to reapply DM on the adds if you cant get 3 finishers before he goes under right?

[dapper cradle]

thanks moishe

[tulip fern]

So now I've chosen a specific player to look at, on the same night, they fluctuated between vanish before deathmark and vanish during so honestly im stumped lol

all with the talent ofc

[lunar pond]

Maybe or you just vanish/mark an add and apply to boss with the DN proc. Build dependent and the timing doesn’t allow for this in every add set

[limber dew]

@balmy condor can you clarify this? how does Deathmark interact with our imp garrote. Should we vanish before deathmark or can we vanish during?

[earnest remnant]

it just dynamically updates w/e is up on the target

but you would want imp garrote to cover the entire DM

[limber dew]

thanks @earnest remnant

[vast loom]

gotta remember that good logs still have mistakes

[tulip fern]

so this means some of the top logs I am seeing where they are running imp garrote/ss are just making an error and this isn't something I need to obsess over anymore

right

you are a smart gamer, you can free me

[cunning basin]

Be free

[limber dew]

my logs are garbage lol. like grey logging on mythic progress. never felt so bad 😄

[tulip fern]

I need the blessing of one of the gigachad theory crafters

[coral ibex]

no, they're running imp garr and ss because it sims pretty equal to VV

[earnest remnant]

yes

[coral ibex]

and they feel like running it

its that simple

[tulip fern]

god bless

[earnest remnant]

you would delay the 2nd dm until you can vanish into garrote

[vast loom]

i just run VV build so i dont gotta worry about vanish

[earnest remnant]

so imp garrote covers the entire thing

[vast loom]

and use vanish for when i randomly drop the marks lol

hasnt happened in awhile tho

[arctic socket]

I like the VV build so if mark ever falls off I can reapply it

Because it seems to fall off on quite a few bosses

[vast loom]

ive gotten better at knowing a boss is gonna phase soonish or someshit

[coral ibex]

"oops accidentally reapplied mark to ansurek before p2 started"

[arctic socket]

Yeah fuck court

And queen

[golden loom]

I feel like the amount of times I have been pulled out of stealth for opening ambush is a bit crazy

I might be very shit

[arctic socket]

Wdym

[vast loom]

no it happens a lot in the mists maze

youll be walking up to the pack and it just unstealths you idk why

[tulip fern]

that shit

[coral ibex]

yea its the swirly wind effect

[tulip fern]

is so annoying

[golden loom]

like literally last pull on ulgrax I got pulled out of stealth the second I pressed ambush -> it turned into a muttilate and my mark didnt get applied

[coral ibex]

just hang back

[vast loom]

its so tilting LOL

or the fact the villagers eat your mark as well

[arctic socket]

What pulls us out in dawnbreaker

And siege?

[coral ibex]

nothing really yoinks you in siege

commonly its a dot tick that pulls you out of stealth

[arctic socket]

I feel like right before I get to the second boss I randomly get pulled out sometimes

Not often but sometimes

[golden loom]

I might be walking too close I guess

[coral ibex]

do you shroud up

[limber dew]

do you have a melee swing macrod into your abilities?

i always shroud up before a pull

[golden loom]

shroud and tricks ye

and no I don't have /startattack macrod in retail

[coral ibex]

you must be close enough to lick the boss and they're just meleeing you pulling you out

[limber dew]

i have been brought out of stealth on mythic horror many times, when the tank pulled out of melee range it would swing and hit me and i was getting blamed for pulling

[tulip fern]

I had that issue on bloodbound because some ranged guy kept ninja pulling and he smacked my ass as punishment

[arctic socket]

I tend to sometimes get swung at by bosses because of how close I position myself to the boss to open

And somehow my one single ambush pulls aggro

[tulip fern]

turns and slaps who he can reach

[limber dew]

@tulip fern THANK YOU! i was being told off all night and it was not my fault

[golden loom]

I didnt even get swung at tho which is weird

[limber dew]

was told to stand back so i ended up waiting in the ranged camp

[coral ibex]

wild

[tulip fern]

Just stand behind tank was my solution

[coral ibex]

you know details rats on the person who pulled

xd

[tulip fern]

his hitbox is huge

[limber dew]

yeah i was mid platform

with shroud up so no idea why i was the closest 😄

[tulip fern]

rogues are a lot more comfortable to get close and personal pre pull

[limber dew]

my last kill i was on the spare add duty so i have like 1 kill and its a 10% parse or soemthing lol

just saved all cds for the add, every time, and then died on the last add because no healer came with me it was dire

[slim pebble]

Should I be CTing more?

[coral ibex]

no that looks right

[warm vortex]

Just did it

it was

ok?

[slim pebble]

I think it may be just me? but I am having a lot of global lag it feels like

[warm vortex]

1.3MIl on GB
Id say it's low but it's fortif and things kept dying to fast

like ive hit 1.7Mil before on a 9 i think it was but that's cause one dps was doing tank dps

and left ads up for a while

i might play it again but i miss echoing when i go fatebound

[slim pebble]

I did 1.56 overall in my 9 just now

[warm vortex]

Think ill give it another go

[slim pebble]

Felt like shit was dying inside of my KB so quickly

[warm vortex]

Fatebound that is

tbh
DPS varies so much

that it's hard to be a reliable indicator

[slim pebble]

Couldnt beat this damn ret pally though

[warm vortex]

This btw

[limber dew]

my highest 9 was 1.68M with 617 item level

think the priest was PIing me 😄

or the ara kara and skardyns really made that big of a difference when the tank knew how to pull

[warm vortex]

Most likely yea
but imo
Dps is really hard to gague how good your doing
like it varies on dungeon, level, your comp
ect

run 26 of GB im p sure

so i hope i get it before 30

[limber dew]

highest interrupts, lowest damage taken, top dps 😄 i can live with that.

I had lost hope mate, then 2 nights ago did a ara kara 9 and got sac brood with speed, and then straight into a grim 8 and got skardyns. Couldnt believe my hero track luck

[warm vortex]

Omg interrupts
thats one thing i hate about alting to boomie tbh

cause thats an alt i have, im hopeless at kicks

rogue im a fuckin machine with it

but not boom

[gray raven]

With the changes to ER next week we're going to want to fit lightweight shiv in, right (for hybrid build)? Is that done via dropping a point from lethal dose?

[mellow copper]

I gave up after 40 runs, created a group in group finder called paying 200k for trinket, only took ppl who could drop it and had it on second run this way

[slim pebble]

Last xpac I had to run the damn dungeon to get nick of time 25 times in a week to get it

I got Skardyns after less than 10 of GB

Felt redeemed

[mellow copper]

that was the fcking worst.... i had 60 runs till the first dropped, and when it did, i knew i was still just half way done...

[mellow copper]

my highest 9 was 2.29m with 617il

[pure moth]

The next item you've now jinxed

[limber dew]

he is probably 630 full bis 😄

just farming those crests

[pure moth]

Hes not

Yet

[limber dew]

hopefully soon 🙂

[slim pebble]

I just hit 620 lol

[limber dew]

then you are one lucky duck 😄

[spice spire]

I gotta farm hella gilded crests this week

[oak tangle]

im ready to blast on my mage

596

[spice spire]

I hit skardyns on my first heroic GB

Been blasting on shadow priest

[spice spire]

585

[limber dew]

im like 300 gilded crests short, couldnt get into groups for weeks, my own keys would fail and noone would invite me, sat in town 3 hours a night being rejected into +3s

[slim pebble]

I gotta farm hella valorstones

[spice spire]

I’m 400 short - valor stones I got tho dw

[oak tangle]

rogue is sitting at 625

champion skardyn's still

[slim pebble]

I looted myth track weapon from bloodhound last night and it’s taunting me

[spice spire]

Spriest is in case people aren’t feeling up for it

[spice spire]

[oak tangle]

my group of friends all play melee

so im trying to diversify

[vast loom]

i just need valor stones to get a 639 mh too atm

[limber dew]

I have no friends 😦

[spice spire]

Same

Plus rat keys are fun when it’s all like

Relevant content

And not a steam roll

[slim pebble]

The real friends are all the people you doom and goon with in rogue discord

[spice spire]

And what with

[limber dew]

@slim pebble thanks Bestie

tea party and hair platting time?

[oak tangle]

i like when you go at 585 ilvl trying to queue into keys, and then they pity invite you

then you beat their dps

[spice spire]

I’m not quite there but I’m also kinda dogshit

[golden loom]

decent ST damage on mythic ulgrax right? I feel so lost on the add phase tho lol

[spice spire]

And focused on living in some

[golden loom]

(also in a pug not in a guild )

[oak tangle]

i think overall i was 900k at 585 arcane mage in a 2 mists of something

[spice spire]

I hit 780 in dawn

[hard wind]

does anyone have a WA that says POISONS???? in text when they aren't applied? my dumbass keeps forgetting to put them on before dungeons lmao.

[spice spire]

But in a stone vault we wiped a lot and I was at a hot 480

[oak tangle]

yes but you wont like it

[spice spire]

https://wago.io/yUMsTUPTx

[slim pebble]

Thanks zaddy

[hard wind]

thatll work too, tyty

[grim jay]

its riley

[limber dew]

presuming it does the same for AP?

[spice spire]

??

[grim jay]

!!

[slate crown]

nephew you've linked a clickable wa

[spice surge]

Ye i know theyre cursed

But theyre neat

[limber dew]

why are they cursed?

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[limber dew]

someone explain the mindset for this as ive never used on myself 😄

[spice spire]

I clearly also missed this memo

[grim jay]

promise?

[spice spire]

Yes

[spice surge]

There was some memory leak/performance issues with em iirc

I dont remember the exact details

[limber dew]

@spice spire we are not down with the kids(referring to majority of the crowd, not calling anyone here a kid or child or anything negative)

[subtle kiln]

Should mute him.

[spice surge]

But its too comfy so im keeping it

[slate crown]

They also do not reliably work in combat, they cause addon taint

[grim jay]

nice.
my mage and his vault

fucking alts

[limber dew]

hahhahaa

[spice spire]

Rat vaults

Classic

[spice surge]

Mine isnt loaded in combat anyway

[slate crown]

Clickables are fine for out of combat stuff like profession trackers and whatnot

But you could conceivably have a time when you are in combat and need to apply a poison

[oak tangle]

need dat alert when under 10 mins left

or

[spice spire]

The alert is for 10m

[oak tangle]

hear me out

poisons are permanent

[midnight mist]

what happen if "load in comabt= false"

would these type of wa still break if say, you are out of combat with the button up and then enter combat

[bright timber]

Not sure what to go for. Trinket or MH? Maybe its not too hard to get a Hero MH for m+?

[slate crown]

don't know

[midnight mist]

gg

[vast loom]

does the recrafting trick work on daggers to save crests?

[spice spire]

Nothing

Because you spelled combat wrong

[hollow stone]

I heard that bug was hotfixed at some point

[vast loom]

damn

[hollow stone]

idk if it works still or not

[midnight mist]

you wanna get in a combat with me or what

[dawn heath]

worth sending hc track trinkets (skardyn&sacbrood) to 626? or should i just prio upgrading myth track pieces?

[grim jay]

what does my rogue get? fucking boralus crit mastery ring or NW dagger

[noble light]

Is Locket of Broken Memories any good? Have it in my Vault as heroic and a hero set chest. Both would be a major ilvl upgrade (last champion slots) and sim close to the same.

[spice spire]

Always down to fight the French

[grim jay]

how? you cant fight the french

[urban iron]

!fuu

[grim jay]

they always surrender

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[limber dew]

you can sim all this stuff for a better representation of improvement vs crest investment. One thing to think about is that not all pieces provide survivability, so although you may sim higher with certain trinkets, etc being prioritised, the stamina gain from other pieces can be pretty big. if you need help, I am happy to guide you through how to check this using raidbots;

[dawn heath]

appreciate it, i know how to sim but its more a question of. do i want to wait weeks to upgrade these trinkets cause i have so many myth track items that are non upgraded yet

[warm vortex]

skyardins just dropped

Also im going back to deathmark

[barren comet]

do i take the trinket?

[warm vortex]

Fatebound is fun but i miss my mark

[limber dew]

then that my friend can only be determined by how you feel about what approach you want to take 🙂

[warm vortex]

But ea

run

[spice spire]

He’s trinket good

[warm vortex]

27 Next?

[spice spire]

Dog

[warm vortex]

Idk i jsut wanna not have to run this place again

:(

[spice spire]

I thought you meant deathmark the cooldown

Not deathstalker

[warm vortex]

I mean deathstalker

nevermind

haha

[spice spire]

It took me a second

[warm vortex]

but yea, i just want this god damn trinket

[spice spire]

I was like WAT

[warm vortex]

Please i don't wanna look at thronguses face again

Still got these two

[quartz spear]

Is there a bis list for M+, specifically trinkets?

[warm vortex]

Wowhead

[spice spire]

!guide

[warm vortex]

Look at the guide there

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[quartz spear]

I looked. That applies to both raid/M+?

[warm vortex]

has a tierlist on the trinkets

[spice spire]

Yeah

[limber dew]

i have to keep running for the 2 rings. only got 1 on vet track and one on champ track that i cant afford to upgrade lol

[warm vortex]

Fair

[spice spire]

But there’s an explanation below

[warm vortex]

obtw

under

[spice spire]

That explains

[warm vortex]

i saw you hearted the message

i said it dropped

not that i got it

lmao

[limber dew]

o mate ! that is brutal

DM me ill run with you and trade trinket

[warm vortex]

Hunter said he could trade it at the start aswell

gets it

insta leave

Hs out

[limber dew]

if you dont need the rings could be a good trade off

[warm vortex]

Iliterally only need the trinket

[quartz spear]

Is Deadeye Spyglass really good for M+ though? I would have figured not really

[native heron]

When is the best time to use Thistle tea? like below half a energy bar?

[next dust]

skardyn's grace bind to deathmark?

[warm vortex]

When you are thirsty

and yes i belive so bad

it says in the wowhead opener at least

[next dust]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[midnight mist]

not sure thats true

i call racism

@gusty mirage

ban

[spice spire]

Ye

[limber dew]

@native heron it is in alignment with Shiv and Kingsbane. if you read the wowhead guide Whispyr explains nicely. and there is an opener which i think he may have updated

[native heron]

Yea i should of read before asking. thats my bad

[limber dew]

you want to Shiv, Kingsbane, Tea, Mutilate Envenom.

Not sure if this has changed much.

if this is wrong, i have not checked myself in a few weeks 😄

[half tartan]

Has it been found bubbling wax better then Sharpstone? Also do you guys get all colors for the Culminating Blasphemite gem or go with remainder of gems Mastery/Crit all in 1 color?

[limber dew]

but should get the gist.

[fallen arch]

U press it anywhere during the opener to get it off cd

[slim pebble]

My alt in DF got heroic beacon on the very first heroic cache. I never got it on my main

[grim jay]

personally wouldnt even care about heroic trinkets that much

but myth track dungeon trinkets is kinda funny

especially if the vault on my main is shit

most of the time

[slim pebble]

I’m not a CE gamer (well wasn’t) so that was my ceiling for beacon

[dawn heath]

this trinket is fine for raiding i would not play it in keys

its turbo bait

[wintry mauve]

It can be a little annoying if the proc goes on an add you don’t notice but I wouldn’t say spyglass is turbo-bait

[dawn heath]

played it in a few keys

it has 20~~% uptime

and even then it can proc on a mob that u dont hit or also proc on a mob thats about to die so u dont get full stacks

[amber brook]

so sac would be the preferred choice?

[dawn heath]

empowering crystal is like 60-70% uptime IIRC

sac is good too

[wintry mauve]

eh I mean it’s just something to get used to imo, those other trinkets also have their own downsides

But I agree that if you don’t want to think about watching for that debuff it isn’t worth it

[dawn heath]

it is just bad for keys

its pretty strong on ST

esp with death mark

u dont wanna target swap

and its just something u shouldn need to focus on at all

[slim pebble]

I need to get a real noticeable DN WA because I keep ambushing to open in m+ when I have it

[wintry mauve]

Yeah I mean I’ve been using it for a bit and I will say anecdotally it’s pretty rare it goes on an add that I end up not getting stacks on. But it does happen

[quartz spear]

This goes back to my question of if we have an M+ trinket bis list lol

[normal mist]

Not really, besides skardyns pairing well with dm

Skardyns+sac is usually used

[next dust]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[wintry mauve]

yeah we've got many options, can't really go wrong just depends on your gear and what you like using

[arctic socket]

If you do any type of raiding definitely

[uneven plume]

shadow-ritual knife is huge too

even champ track outsims many hero 626 trinkets

[bright surge]

has anyone macro'ed maad queens + deathmark ?

[normal mist]

You can't

Also bad

[arctic socket]

Mythic + bis trinkets = grace with the choices of sac / crystal / mandate

Any of those combos do fine

[dawn heath]

empowering crystal superior to sacbrood

but they're close

sry

sac*

[arctic socket]

You’re never replacing skardyns

[bright surge]

ahhh kay , thats why it won't work

[quartz spear]

I have sac yeah but I need a good second

[dawn heath]

ye

sac

[uneven plume]

transmitter would be better that grace in raid imo

[arctic socket]

Thats fine to use

[uneven plume]

mythic track transmitter of course

[arctic socket]

Naw

[uneven plume]

than*

[arctic socket]

Respectfully fuck that trinket for sin

[slim pebble]

Transmitter is not very fun to play

[normal mist]

It has a cast

[uneven plume]

its not fun, its giga strong tho

[vestal cliff]

when the ovinax parasites fixate you , can you vanish to get them off?

[uneven plume]

especially for first boss mists burn

[arctic socket]

It isn’t far from Grace

And grace is miles better to use

[slim pebble]

I lost the queens mandate roll yesterday in raid. Was a feels bad

[bright surge]

ahhh thats make sense , ive disabled my castbar , but ty

[bleak dove]

for transmitter gaming im guessing that I should be getting the buff before hitting deathmark

[arctic socket]

Ye

I found the best thing to do is

[bleak dove]

so prolly after ER start lookin for the buff?

[arctic socket]

Get your slice up

Build back up to 5+

Transmitter

Then envenoms cds etc

[bleak dove]

beauty thank you

[quartz spear]

If you guys are one CP off Echoing Reprimand minigame, are you using Garrote to just get a quick CP or just ignore completely and Mutilate?

[golden loom]

if it lines up with pandemic yeah

[quartz spear]

Should've clarified, but outside of pandemic*

[coral ibex]

dont try to game ER cp

refreshing garrote outside pandemic to game ER is bad

just let them happen

[quartz spear]

Ah ok that's kinda what I figured

[glad rapids]

So come next week SnD gets casted with envenom, does that mean we can completely remove SnD from our bars ?

[fresh blaze]

hey guys

[coral ibex]

yes

[fresh blaze]

a qucik question
theres still bug on envenom overlap ( in ptr)?

[golden loom]

not a bug

[plush bronze]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[glad rapids]

Thanks. What a time to be a rogue right now.

[arctic socket]

Sometimes you can but most of the time you just multi again and wait until you passively hit it

[quartz spear]

Part of me wishes the minigame was more rewarding such that it'd be worth go for it lol

[smoky sequoia]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[quartz spear]

It's kinda fun

[tall jay]

anyone able to fix this macro?
#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/use Tempered Potion
/use 14

its not useing the 3 star potion

[arctic socket]

Shift right lock the potion in it

I think it’s right click

Might be left

[quartz spear]

Is Dungeon Slice still the appropriate sim of choice for M+?

[smoky sequoia]

so is spyglass not acting like its supposed to ingame or why is it simming so high then in dungeon slice

[spice surge]

It is

[topaz horizon]

Use Item:212265

[coral ibex]

someone pinged me yesterday telling me dungeon slice is “the worst m+ sim” and then never elaborated

[strange python]

Do we have anything to help with the orb affix for this week? Other than blind

[coral ibex]

here it is

[quartz spear]

lol

[fresh blaze]

i mean new stack isnt refresh whole duration

[soft shale]

the affix this week is soaking orbs

[strange python]

Oh ok wrong orbs I was thinking of?

[smoky sequoia]

[strange python]

Which affix is the one where you have to cc the orb spawns

[smoky sequoia]

idk id rather trust fuu about his opinion on dungeon slice

[soft shale]

next week

[strange python]

Ok for that week what can we do

[soft shale]

blind kick kidney cheapshot

[coral ibex]

yea i mean they never explained why or anything so i assume they're just repeating something they read on twitter

[strange python]

We are useless :despair:

[coral ibex]

just use aoe blind

using single target cc's on the affix orbs is cooked

[strange python]

The cd makes it a bit unreliable

[limpid hearth]

Blood elf

[plush bronze]

The point of these affixes isn't for one person to have an answer every single time it's up

[strange python]

Yeah I’d rather not play than play that race

[topaz horizon]

Aoe blind still bugged for those orbs?

[median igloo]

Does Radiant Power outscale Depths at higher ilvl? I know Depths was simming better on ST a few weeks back, but now Radiant Power is ahead again

[lone parrot]

queue with a ret pally and let them deal with it

[arctic socket]

Just aoe blind some every once in a while

[coral ibex]

its not bugged, the blind just doesn't splash bc the orbs disappear from the initial blind hit

blind a real mob, splash the orbs

[topaz horizon]

Poor design

[slim pebble]

We just collect orbs no cc needed

[arctic socket]

You blind a mob not a orb

[lone parrot]

idk i just copy zerocool

[strange python]

Yeah I was confused thanks

[lone parrot]

depths does better on ST, RP for aoe

[slim pebble]

Doesn’t Zerocool do some weird stuff that works for him

[lone parrot]

yeah he runs WoaT

instead of ER

and a couple diff hero talents

[arctic socket]

He’s also said not to copy him

Multiple times before

[lone parrot]

i like how woat plays, i dont like playing ER

[arctic socket]

What’s not to like about er?

[dapper cradle]

I love ER bro

[arctic socket]

It’s so nice now

[lone parrot]

I dont like it

[dapper cradle]

We playing supercharger next week?

[arctic socket]

Yeah

[dapper cradle]

What’s the build gonna look like

[arctic socket]

Don’t know

[median igloo]

yeah, Depths for ST, RP for AOE. That's what I was seeing a few weeks ago

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/g6cEFfFftEUH5vDeFAtnug

but now RP is ahead on ST for me

[lone parrot]

if i play around with my binds and macros i could make it feel more comfortable

[limpid hearth]

Nerds havent nerded yet

[nova aspen]

wait for whisp to cook it up

and update wowhead

[arctic socket]

Whisp should post the new builds this weekend

[lone parrot]

im out of the loop, whats this?

[arctic socket]

This was the most recent thing he posted

Related to the shiv change

[arctic socket]

Shiv becomes er

^its pinned

[lone parrot]

what in the goddamn happened to the tree

[arctic socket]

Changes

[lone parrot]

do i spy more shiv bloat

[arctic socket]

I’m excited to have to learn another opener

After already learning 3 different ones this season

[nova aspen]

dont think the opener changes

except u dont press snd or er anymore

[arctic socket]

Well that’s a change

And after your press shiv

You prob have to envenom soon after

[smoky sequoia]

just start blasting instantly instead of blasting after 7 seconds

[nova aspen]

and now u can feint whenever u feel like it

[arctic socket]

Imma put feint on my er bind

[lone parrot]

thats less fun than when you get a burst class chat shit about my dps, then my dmg ramps up and I blitz them

thats the fun part

[nova aspen]

[arctic socket]

With the new TTK change

[boreal lichen]

how shoudl i apply crimson tempest on silkon court hc ? just when adds spawn or always on both bosses up ?

[arctic socket]

And shiv being supercharged

I believe our burst will be rly rly high

[arctic socket]

You”re running CT?

On court

[boreal lichen]

wowhead says it ^^

[fallen arch]

I mean u can

CT gud

[nova aspen]

i only ran spatter

and got a 97 last night

the beetles kind of live for a while but also kind of not

so its a question of if ur feeling lucky

[arctic socket]

On heroic I have started to just use full st build

And change out bleeding for caustic

[slim pebble]

I lost mark last night and hit the wrong button outside of vanish

[spice spire]

Surely with spatter

Yeah

[slim pebble]

I wanted to KMS (in game)

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

Me last night pulling the 619 grace

[slim pebble]

Me looking at my WA

[arctic socket]

1 dungeon off full 623

[slim pebble]

I’m 150 valor stones off being 620

And surely I get a queens mandate from the heroic cache

[arctic socket]

I don’t have enough time to farm as many 8s+ I need to get gilded crest

[nimble tartan]

chat i got the rashanan cloak this week on mythic

[slim pebble]

You should delete it. It’s trash

[arctic socket]

I hope this week I get the mythic track 2nd boss dagger

So I can get myself a 639

[slim pebble]

Dropped in raid last night

Was so happy

Other rogue already has 2

[arctic socket]

I hope this week is my week

That’s so troll

Why did he roll on two

[dapper cradle]

What does the class tree look like? We dumping both old ER points into supercharger or going 2/2 lethality?

[arctic socket]

Idk

[slim pebble]

One from raid and one in vault

[arctic socket]

Haven’t seen it

[arctic socket]

Ahh

That’s still troll tho

Crafted wep with ascension bis

[slim pebble]

I’m more interested in our new m+ build with 12 seconds of imp garrote

[dapper cradle]

I’d appreciate it if you could find out

[arctic socket]

Google it

[subtle tundra]

It's not a new build and the subterfuge part is still not worth dps wise

[soft shale]

yea people are lost that on higher keys the problem is suriving

and even then depending on team double vanish does not do much

eg aug shaman dh tank etc

they already silence and bouncy castle all mobs that can be affected

[slim pebble]

I swapped to dawnthread since they’re both so close and I so m+ too

[subtle tundra]

In 14s I still wasn't needing vanish

[slim pebble]

What a gamer

[soft shale]

yea just play better big blaster

no need for silence mania

[arctic socket]

Imma be real, I crafted what ever is “bis”
For raid so I have a chance at 100 parsing but emblishments big meme atm

[soft shale]

best parse is people accidentally using pots of power on you

on your cds

whoops

oh and PI

[arctic socket]

Does that work?

I will pay people if that works

[soft shale]

i mean healers/tanks should use them kinda

it has 5 min cd and only affects 5 allies tho

[smoky sequoia]

how many sparks should we have this week?

[soft shale]

4 and a half i think

[gentle gyro]

ah this makes me feel warm and fuzzy

[arctic socket]

What’s there real name

[soft shale]

make everyone know so they buy my pots

[arctic socket]

Does that stack?

[soft shale]

it makes their pot cd but not yours

it was used in rfw quite a bit

[arctic socket]

Ik what I’m doing

[manic coral]

is bubbling wax in 1h better for assa?

[arctic socket]

I just bribed my shaman heals to use these on me

[soft shale]

it is not huge personal dps but a bit of raid dps

[pure star]

With the new .5 patch next week, how we looking as assa? Sub rogues seem to be in a pit of doom about it

[soft shale]

assa is fine

[shy pecan]

Yeah, sin doesn’t have design issues or as many bugs or getting things from current builds removed without any suitable replacements like sub is

[queen cosmos]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[golden loom]

forgot to change to caustic on heroic ovinaxx 😦

[sick garnet]

Hi, i got a question: Is it worth spreading caustic speader on multiple mobs? (is it even possible)

[coral ibex]

not possible

[soft shale]

nope only works once

[sick garnet]

Perfect, thank you!

[hidden fog]

i also have a question: what hero talents do you guys play in m+? newbie rogue here

[fallen arch]

Check wowhead guide

Oh hero talents, deathstalker

All the way

[hidden fog]

wowhead is banned in my country so im a bit challenged on that tbh

thailand

thx !

[slim pebble]

One sec

[hidden fog]

thank you foss

[slim pebble]

You’re welcome

[cerulean osprey]

Kind of you foss to help him like that with his wow head banned

[fallen arch]

Imagine wowhead being banned

[normal mist]

You can also check icyveins and the information there is pretty much the same as in wowhead

maybe one or two different things

[fallen arch]

That’s probably also banned?

[normal mist]

most likely not

he can try tho

[wary kelp]

Hey is there a reason ppl are running master assasin in mythic princess but not rly any other fights?

[hidden fog]

issue with icy veins is that most hover overs and logos are directly from wowhead so they are greyed out

[fallen arch]

Why is wowhead banned tho

Because its from tencent?

[normal mist]

it sims better for them

[soft shale]

ad thingies

[slim pebble]

If you need anything else from wowhead you can @ or dm me 😀

[still stirrup]

Because some countries require them to store data locally

[soft shale]

thailand turkey etc have some problems with sites because of those

[hidden fog]

this is all the reason i have

[ripe saddle]

Are the pins buff for upcoming patch or already in place?

[soft shale]

basically you cant sell ads well to these countries

[slim pebble]

The buffs from 2 weeks ago

[ripe saddle]

One posted 7d ago

Ah

[still stirrup]

@hidden fog Do you have a VPN?

[soft shale]

so all their traffic is money lost

[fallen arch]

To all gamers ad traffic money is lost

[scarlet wyvern]

sim says take helmet, upgrade to 639 (use catalyst), the sacbrood trinket somehow sims quite lesser in dps. What would you guys suggest? Trust the sim or take trinket?

[fallen arch]

Cause I imagine everyone uses ad blockers

[hidden fog]

not atm, if you got a good one for chrome i can try it

[slim pebble]

Do you have that neck?

[scarlet wyvern]

in hero track

[fallen arch]

Sites like wowhead are borderline unusable without ad blocker

[quiet yoke]

no it doesn't

[soft shale]

the problem is not serving ads or you using an adblocker is that you dont get any revenue almost at all from the country

[still stirrup]

Nah it's literally they require you to buy infra to store any local data there, costs too much to do that so they won't

[fallen arch]

I’d take sac

[soft shale]

even if most people use adblocker eventually the campaign gets used to the people that see it

[fallen arch]

Head is easier to get later

Might only get one sac mythic this season

[soft shale]

that too same reason twitch ended relations with korea

[normal mist]

Aight tell me more then

[soft shale]

also for the hero talents if you talent long cloak you get a bit more dps

nothing huge like 1-2%

but it helps

[wary kelp]

im opening up logs of ppl running it on princess but not running it on sikran so just curious if there was a fight specific reasoning

like the same person with the same gear

[normal mist]

Then people are just copying eachother

without sims

what do you want me to tell you

[fallen arch]

Maybe because they’re lazy and forgot changing talents

[normal mist]

Assa ST has more than 1 viable build

[wary kelp]

idk I was just curious if there was a specific reason guys thats all I was asking

[fallen arch]

Maybe because they wanted to like, infuriate someone looking at their logs

[normal mist]

People tend to just straight up copy whoever did more dps than them

[thin portal]

Hi sin rogues

Should I go sin because all I get is mastery gears

[normal mist]

no idea

[fallen arch]

Sure

Not a good reason but ye why not

If you’re playing outlaw noe u def should

[thin portal]

How often is sin pooling nowadays?

[fallen arch]

Cause u know

[normal mist]

often

[fallen arch]

Outlaw

[quiet yoke]

please don't spread misinformation

[normal mist]

what

[thin portal]

I have to get better at outlaw too, but i think it's more decent than my sin rotation. Even with a hack job sin rotation it does more than my decent outlaw rotation.

[normal mist]

There was/is a list on the pins @trail hamlet

that was probably taken down

[slate crown]

!pooling - often

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[still stirrup]

Not sure for chrome, have used nordvpn which is alright but it's not free

[slate crown]

You should go sin if you want to go sin, nothing to do with the stats you're getting on your gear.

[normal mist]

still nothing big enough to work around it

[covert lichen]

Is ascension on 636 wep better than a 639 wep?

[normal mist]

probably the one that impacts gameplay is the vanish ambush with DN up

[normal mist]

nop

i mean, wait

[fallen arch]

Ye that shit is weird

[normal mist]

639 no emb VS 636 emb?

[fallen arch]

Its not if u take into account that u can get 2 others

[covert lichen]

Yuh

[normal mist]

636 better yeah

[fallen arch]

If u have access to 639

[thin portal]

Wouldn't it be wise to be the spec of the gear you find?

[covert lichen]

I have main hand 639, and offhand im crafting 636

[normal mist]

slap ascension on OH then

[normal mist]

assassination desires all stats

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[thin portal]

See crit mastery

That's all I find

[slate crown]

^ As stated, there isn't a spec of the gear. That's not how assassination works. We just want ilvl. More numbers = more damage and that's good enough for us

Just get ilvl I promise you

[covert lichen]

Is ascension better than 2x crit emb vs ascension + nerubian emb?

[normal mist]

people running exclusively M+ tend to get crit mastery because they see no value on having haste per example

[daring hamlet]

anyone run night elf to get another way to reset in combat for M+

[normal mist]

not really

people run nelf to get another restealth on packs

(when it works)

[daring hamlet]

wait lol thats exactly what i was assking

maybe i phrased it poorly

[snow kindle]

Isn’t that what he meant

[normal mist]

i've always seen "reset" as in reseting a fight

[spice spire]

Many do yeah

[normal mist]

like in raid, reseting a boss

[daring hamlet]

iron wire just seems too good to give up

[fallen arch]

It doesnt always work though

Its super wonky

[daring hamlet]

like getting a fresh iron wire on a chain pull seems so good

when vanish is down

[normal mist]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[arctic socket]

Yes no

Be a man don’t use any emblishments

[spice spire]

U first bozo

[daring hamlet]

nelf is finicky tho ya? like you cant move so dieally you meld, dont move and immediately stealth and then do wtvr

[spice spire]

Yeah that’s fine

[thin portal]

Is that craft nerubian dagger good?

With the proc on it

[coral ibex]

no

do not craft it

[frigid wing]

when do you guys use blind/sap?

[thin portal]

Ok

[coral ibex]

blind for the DR

[normal mist]

sap rarely because my tank aggros first and THEN asks if we were supposed to skip

[spice spire]

sap for skips or problem mobs and blind for dr

Or to do affix with orbs

[coral ibex]

what mobs are you guys sapping

[weary stump]

Other players in war mode to troll

[idle radish]

am i supposed to feel out of energy on mythic+ bosses

[spice spire]

The caster mob that pulls on the way to the four pack with the buffs behind it on mists

[coral ibex]

yes

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[spice spire]

That’s the only sapper I can think of this season

And that’s route dependent

[thorn fjord]

iI'll sap you

[idle radish]

ok cool

ty nooj

[thorn fjord]

Yo why the fuck does this stupid 3% buff quest say I only got 15 of this currency

I full cleared last week and this week

-_-

[coral ibex]

check mail

[thorn fjord]

Not in mail

And I get a 404 error when i try to make a ticket LMAO

[coral ibex]

are you 100% sure you full cleared

[spice spire]

Skill issue tbh

[thorn fjord]

Yes

[arctic socket]

Biologically impossible

[spice spire]

You know what

[soft shale]

i had someone with the same bug

have to kill 1 boss with an alt

[spice spire]

You got me there buddy

[soft shale]

and warband it to your main

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

[thorn fjord]

gtfo really?

[coral ibex]

the warband strikes again

[eager gazelle]

I got 18 somehow

[thorn fjord]

I dont have any other 80 alts tho -____-

[soft shale]

or you can wait for ernesto pedro

to check your ticket

[spice spire]

Skill issue for sure

[soft shale]

he may or not do it in 1 week

[spice spire]

Imagine not having a stocked warband

[thorn fjord]

This is so annoying

[arctic socket]

What’s a warband?

[thorn fjord]

Whats a Blizzard?

Smoll indie company

[arctic socket]

Warband deez nuts @spice spire pussy

[spice spire]

I might bud

[thorn fjord]

I band these nuts to your war

[spice spire]

Sass me again

And I’ll send you dogs

[thorn fjord]

Feet?

Oh snap

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

HOT DOG HOT DOG HOT DIGGIDY DOG

[arctic socket]

You saved the picture of my feet quake?

Weird

[spice spire]

Dog don’t be gross

Meant mine

[arctic socket]

.

I read that as yours

My b

[solemn oracle]

Hello there friends, a good friend of mine's learning the ropes of Assa, but is struggling quite a bit with energy pooling (even though I've tried to help quite a bit), is there a WA by chance that can help newer players with pooling while keeping uptimes going?

[strange python]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

i am the friend

[solemn oracle]

^

[strange python]

please help

[golden loom]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[golden loom]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[thorn fjord]

On a real note.. so nobody else has any type of resolution to the buff quest?

[spice spire]

We used to but afaik that weak aura is obsolete and there’s not one right now

[strange python]

https://tenor.com/view/correctcity-gif-21818196

[spice spire]

Unfortunately it’s a mental load you have to put on yourself while learning the spec

I’m sorry

[strange python]

i am getting pruned

[spice spire]

No no

You got this

[solemn oracle]

I see, it's the S3 DF one, right?

[spice spire]

Practice makes perfect

[weary stump]

Hot dog jello, under hot dog water jello, under hot dog with hot dog water jello

[spice spire]

He’s

Yes even

[solemn oracle]

Yes, they've made good progress, so I agree!

[late tusk]

Hello are wowhaed-icyveins both updated?

rotation related

[spice spire]

A quick logic I used (I skipped s3/4 post rework so I had to kind of learn everything again)
Is that if you have to stop pressing things, just chill for a few seconds

Let your energy regain and about 2/3 of the way

Start the cycle again

Remember just because you can do something doesn’t mean you have to, the envenom buff is king and outside of CDs you just chill and wait on the buff timer to run close

[spice spire]

Wh is, 99% sure iv is too

[solemn oracle]

She does that, but then she loses track of uptimes and whatnot. Sounds like I just gotta keep holding them honest and help out then

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

Definitely a practicer

I believe in the homies, good luck! If you need help never hesitate to reach out. Sorry for not having a pooling WA tho

[median igloo]

One thing to try is having descending bars vs number countdowns on a WA package. I used to prefer that back in the day as it was easier visually

And my bars were color coded so I could track what was getting ready to expire

[spice spire]

AG big dog, I don’t care about that stuff

[thorn fjord]

Really don’t even need it tbh

[spice spire]

Some do

[thorn fjord]

Brother I don’t pool energy lmaoooo

And we’re still vibing

disclaimer don’t be like me I’m a special case

[strange python]

i am a more special case

i didnt know i could shadowstep an ally

until like last week

[spice spire]

Learning is cool

[thorn fjord]

Mouse over step works wonders on allys in tight situations

[rugged bear]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

It happens and like.
I know way too much about assassination specific but put me on a different class and I’m learning stuff all the time too.

Like it happens it’s okay to not know everything and aim to grow

Good luck!

[dapper heath]

Strangely refreshing encouragement

[thorn fjord]

Just don’t let it overwhelm you.,, it starts to make more sense the more you put it in to practice

I get to continue brood prog tomorrow on a 14” laptop screen 😑

[dapper heath]

tape magnifying glasses to your face

[spice spire]

If someone is honestly seeking help why would you ever not encourage them

[dapper heath]

I'm not saying it was bad, just don't see often anymore in the current WoW community 🙂

[spice spire]

It’s a silly notion to be rude to people legitimately asking for help

[thorn fjord]

Duuuude @spice spire

[dapper heath]

giving you praise my guy

[spice spire]

I agree though

We try 🙂

[thorn fjord]

I actually remember getting an extra of that fucking currency last week in the mail

[arctic socket]

You should he used to looking / focusing on small things

[spice spire]

We’ve all been new

[thorn fjord]

And I fucking deleted it

But last week i got 8 then an extra in the mail

Wtfff

Why the fuck did I tag blue popsicle lmao

[dapper heath]

because i am awesome?

[spice spire]

Because he’s being a swell fella

[dapper heath]

aayyyeee!

[spice spire]

One brain cell

[dapper heath]

oof

[spice spire]

We shared it there

[thorn fjord]

Fucking A bro now i for sure gotta cut a ticket

GOD DAMNIT

[tough widget]

is madqueens mandate bugged in sims? it sims 30k less then ritual knife from delves ??

[spice spire]

It shouldn’t be

Two things

What’s the ilvl of both

And what’s your other trinket

[tough widget]

mythic sacbrood

619 mandate and knife

[spice spire]

Link the sim if you don’t mind!

Because that is odd!

[tough widget]

already closed it

[median igloo]

Anyone else's profile have Radiant Power sim higher than Depths on ST?

[tough widget]

i sim again

[spice spire]

Damn yeah pls do that’s a weird one

[spice spire]

Could see it they’re close ST

[quaint hull]

Its not that weird

He is obviously not simming single target

Mandate is a single target trinket

[thorn fjord]

@spice spire Crisis averted it was in my mailbox just now

3% HERE WE COME

[quick condor]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[median igloo]

Yeah. A few weeks back Depths was higher but I guess as gear gets better Radiant Power outscales Depths

[thorn fjord]

I was blasting last night in mythic reclear without it too... Going straight to the moon tomorrow

[spice spire]

Even then it still does fuck you damage, and DS is 40% ST

[slim pebble]

Alright getting a timed 10 dawnbreaker wasn't as bad as I thought it would be

[spice spire]

Dawn breaker one of the easier ones isn’t it

[slim pebble]

Now I can play the game

[slim pebble]

I just dont like the dungeon tbh

[cerulean osprey]

Mists ara db and siege considered easier 10s currently I’ve heard

[spice spire]

Routing is fucky

But if you get it you get it

[grand coyote]

No need to SIM, I know what I'm taking

[slim pebble]

Ive gota timed mists 11 and im awful

so its gotta be easy

[slim pebble]

WILDFIRE WICK GANG

[spice spire]

Heroic transmitter

Good vault good vault

[safe barn]

quake

gonna need your servicess

[spice spire]

Hello

[safe barn]

[thorn fjord]

Gotta take that to DM's @safe barn

[spice spire]

What services

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/tee-hee-gif-21299185

[dapper heath]

https://tenor.com/view/terrific-elijah-wood-gif-3906482

[upper bear]

Any chance someon could tell me, do we gem all different colours for gem buff or just spam one gem to all slots?

[slim pebble]

When I checked to upgrade my myth track weapon earlier it was 900 valor stones. I just checked again and it dropped to 600???

[grand cedar]

Omg. Dunno what to do with the vault. Replace my champion neck(Vers/Mastery) to hero(Crit/Mastery) or replace my crafter 619 dagger with a hero dagger(Crit/Mastery).

[royal lantern]

you sim, it like always

like, the crit "gain" is really really minor

if its a gain for you to take the same gems, it will do it

if not, well it wont

[royal lantern]

what level are you raiding

[sinful fable]

How are our dungon slice calculating ascension uptime? or is it just simmed as if it were 100% uptime?

[royal lantern]

heroic or mythic?

[grand cedar]

Only doing mythics(9's so far)

[royal lantern]

sims with realistic downtime, hence why its slightly worse then dawnthread in dungeons

[grand cedar]

not raiding

myth keys

[royal lantern]

so you have a 619 mainhand allready or not?

[grand cedar]

I have a 626 mainhand and a crafted 619

[royal lantern]

take the neck then lol 😄

[grand cedar]

although my mainhand has hast/crit

[thorn fjord]

I'll give you neck @royal lantern

[royal lantern]

secondarys dont matter

[thorn fjord]

er i mean

wait

[royal lantern]

ilvl wins by default

[grand cedar]

ok

[royal lantern]

espacially for assa which doesnt care about secondary

[grand cedar]

neck it is

[royal lantern]

like, more ilvl = more stats = more good

[grand cedar]

Thanks for the info

[royal lantern]

you only can go for secondary stats when its 2 items of the same ilvl for assa

and thats just simming it then

outside of that its really just "high ilvl = better" (exception beeing ofc trinkets)

[thorn fjord]

Cries in 606 Skardyns

[sinful fable]

oh alright, thanks @royal lantern , trying to figure out if I should swap to ascension or keep dawnthread

[royal lantern]

the rule is like

ascension is SLIGHTLY better in raid

dawnthread is SLIGHTLY better in m+

[thorn fjord]

i thought it was the opposite

wait no

im dumb

[royal lantern]

but we talk about so very small minor differences, it makes legit 0 difference

like, its in the 0,1-0,2% range

[slim pebble]

@spice spire the tank in my DB casted a spell while mounted and plummeted to his death on the first boss 😂

[spice spire]

[zenith hatch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[snow kindle]

anyone doing high keys, do you use slap on more vers or dont care and still run heavy crit/mast