assassination

[cunning basin]

I would probs break smth ngl

[arctic socket]

I wanted too

[cunning basin]

I hate when I get pissed at my pc

I wanna hit something but I know I can't afford to replace any of this shit KEK

So I just seethe

[grim jay]

When I was younger I punched a hole into the door

Once or twice

Was kinda emotional back then

[royal lantern]

wtf guys

[sturdy mesa]

We reckon the rare cloak ye boyoz?

[oak eagle]

punch a pillow on your bed

[oak eagle]

hundy p

[cunning basin]

I ninja star'd a cell phone into my closet door when I was younger

[grim jay]

Thats nice aswell.
Now im kinda dead inside so its whatever

[cunning basin]

Thankfully not nearly as angry of a person anymore KEK

[grim jay]

[cunning basin]

Yeah

[sturdy mesa]

odds of gettin it seems cumlow so should go for it ye

[cunning basin]

The depression drowned out all the anger

[winged sun]

Im gonna do so much dps

[oak eagle]

thats what i did last week, like 4 or 5 guildies got rare cloak from vault

[winged sun]

Anyone wanna dps race me on friday

[cunning basin]

I believe in u

[oak eagle]

it was sick

[royal lantern]

high efficeny depression

[grim jay]

Id be surprised if you did that with your inverted curved monitor tilted by 90°

[cunning basin]

This how I ended up shit posting in here KEK

[winged sun]

Ny brother took the oic

Pic

Not me

[cunning basin]

(jk rogue community is unironically chill af)

[safe barn]

I believe that the monitor is angled to the top and the pic was taken from below

something like that

[oak eagle]

yeah but theres sometimes where we need to go on timeout

[winged sun]

[nova aspen]

sure

[winged sun]

Tf is tilted

[oak eagle]

because people can be REALLY stupid

[winged sun]

By 90 degrees

[safe barn]

we need TC on how that pic works @balmy condor

[sharp viper]

what's happening on friday?

[winged sun]

O right u guys dont know

Ifc

[cunning basin]

Usually around buff/nerf day when people start dooming and making memes about spec/class being deadge

[winged sun]

Ofc^

[balmy condor]

I'm logging in to test theories

[cunning basin]

And we get our lil 10 minute timer between messages kek

[winged sun]

im in the army i only go home friday/saturday

[royal lantern]

FUCK

did a gem resim and closed my tabs at 96%

[cunning basin]

Lmao

Rip 10 minutes gg go next

[safe barn]

CTRL SHIFT T

[grim jay]

Funniest shit was when I had a table made of marble with a metal frame, smashed the plate and suddenly the marble on both sides of the leg split

[safe barn]

the sim still goes on

[true estuary]

She's the new album in Beat Saber, instabuy

[winged sun]

Man

Ass is good

[cunning basin]

[winged sun]

So much dam

[cunning basin]

I agree ass is great

[safe barn]

ass is great

[cunning basin]

The spec ain't half bad either

[grim jay]

Ts are fine as hell aswell tho

[grim jay]

Angry big german back then

[sharp viper]

now an angry small german

[royal lantern]

how big

[nova aspen]

im an ass man for sure

[oak eagle]

hey does anyone know if we should be talenting into Fieldies in 11.0.5?

[sharp viper]

I'm playing assassination too!

[nova aspen]

[grim jay]

Was 17, gym since I was 14, about 1.85m and 110kg ig

[royal lantern]

1.85

lmao manlet

[grim jay]

Size aint only about height

[balmy condor]

aight I have measurements

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

now we recreate

[broken lion]

As an assa rogue, do you have to apply poison to all the trash in pulls on m+?

[royal lantern]

how late is it again whisp

[oak eagle]

5:07am

for him

[royal lantern]

MAYBE get some sleep

[grim jay]

Bro thats like the guy that exposes people that lie about their height on yt

[royal lantern]

you are doing nonsense again

[grim jay]

You automatically do that with fan of knifes

[broken lion]

oh neat

[prime hull]

Does anyone know the best way to use cooldowns on Silken Court? I'm confused because of the damage amps and boss stacking, I don't think you want to send cooldowns on cooldown. Here is a demon hunter CD spreadsheet for example.

Only one public assassination log too.

[ashen orbit]

https://lorrgs.io/

[subtle tundra]

literally said only one public log

himself

[prime hull]

Again with only one log I don't know if I should copy this person.

[balmy condor]

Got it

[grim jay]

Talking about heroic or mythic

[subtle tundra]

ofc mythic

[ashen orbit]

yeah my bad read it after, there are 2 though xD

[prime hull]

Congrats! I just looted this as well, pretty happy.

[balmy condor]

I didn't loot shit

I've been trying to recreate a phone pic for the last 15 minutes

[prime hull]

Oh. I'm sorry then!

[oak eagle]

HAHAHHA

[balmy condor]

should've taken 10 but I realized that the guy had to have zoomed in

[subtle tundra]

idk if you play at this level you either have to be able to play what is most played(sub) or be able to think your cds yourself

[grim jay]

Its close but not perfect

[royal lantern]

@subtle tundra if you do mythic court and you have mandate, do you keep it for the dmg amps or just send on cd

[safe barn]

i knew it would be a tilted monitor

[balmy condor]

it's not actually

[subtle tundra]

didnt play court and i dont have mandate, are you stupid?

[safe barn]

wait, what now im confused

only the camera is tilted?

[royal lantern]

yes im stupid, but you are smarter about raid prog varas

[subtle tundra]

i have absolute dogshit gear for a person who is progging mythic queen

[prime hull]

I just rerolled rogue for this tier so I've been relying on discord information to carry me mostly haha.

[grim jay]

630?

[subtle tundra]

i have to spend mythic crests on hc gear

around 120 of them.

and im 628

[royal lantern]

tbf, thats not really a crest-, you can upgrade the mythic drops for free then

[grim jay]

Dang. @quiet oar Is probably approaching 631 as we speak

[subtle tundra]

? literally is
if i upgrade to 626 and drop a 626 piece its 30 crests down the drain

and if i drop 623 its still 15 crests wasted

and i cant just not upgrade shit and wait for drops. we want to kill queen this reset

[slim pebble]

Oh the long term play

[royal lantern]

yes?

[balmy condor]

you tilt your phone around 40 degrees clockwise, then you pitch down slightly and add like a 5 degree yaw and zoom in to like 2.5x-ish. Lining up the tree in the world line with the edge of the first raid slot helps too

but you have to tilt clockwise cause phone cameras will flip the image

[slim pebble]

This is the analysis I’m in the rogue discord for

[balmy condor]

so you're basically taking a picture from the left of the monitor

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/take-care-sleep-tight-sathya-gif-4204269199178285117

[grim jay]

You are down bad

Fam

Did you drink shots again?

[quiet oar]

almost

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't dare do pixel measurements while drunk

I do not have the hand eye coordination to have accuracy on that

[subtle tundra]

i think we will have 632 ppl today

[royal lantern]

ooooooooooh its drunkspyr

[tired gull]

I have 608 😁

[balmy condor]

sober af atm

[tired gull]

And still topping in my guild with people approaching 620

[woeful wigeon]

i got dead-eye spyglass myth track

btw is this bugged or not ? culminating blasphemy gem

cant see if it actually adds crit

[balmy condor]

not bugged

just bad

[short flicker]

what embalioshment do u run for m+ only ?

[balmy condor]

it doesn't add crit

it adds crit damage

[grim jay]

Dawnthread

[blissful pumice]

Guess i am a bit late but what are the stupid changes for 11.0.5 regarding the Tea Proc?

[woeful wigeon]

not wurth going for ? or still go 1 of each hybrid gems ?

[short flicker]

so not the one for the gems?

[grim jay]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[slim pebble]

632 people and I’m just now 620 lol

[tired gull]

Whispyr do we have math on rework coming next week?

[normal mist]

If he did it would be pinned

[normal mist]

I'm still 619

[tired gull]

I never check pins

[normal mist]

That's a you problem

[tired gull]

Idek how to check them on mobile

[royal lantern]

what rework? they delete ER and remove SnD as active ability, thats it

[slim pebble]

There’s a bit more coming, no? Envenom stacks twice

[royal lantern]

(except on sub, cus imagine blizz giving a flying fuck about sub)

[slim pebble]

auto thistle teas

[grim jay]

Did you try pressing the button that looks like you are looking for something in the top right of your screen?

[royal lantern]

that has 0 gameplay changes

[grim jay]

[royal lantern]

and auto tea is dogshit and should be thrown into the bin, BUT is also no changes

[sharp viper]

love the dutch tilt

[tired gull]

Gameplay changes don’t equal number changes

[balmy condor]

It’s like 0.2% better to optimize around the blasphemite for most people

[dark crag]

If i get a skardyn's in vault i switch to assa

[sharp viper]

that's yuge

[balmy condor]

Why does your screen stretch like that

[blissful pumice]

guess we have to try to not fall below 50% Energie so we have them for kingsbane and deathmark...

[sharp viper]

he has a very long... phone

[normal mist]

It's not that big

[grim jay]

Tira even had a only 3 different colours are worth sim.

[normal mist]

But it's slow as fuck

[tired gull]

That’s what she said

[balmy condor]

Yeah but it like

Stretches

[woeful wigeon]

thx did you check that with hybrids or full gems

[balmy condor]

It doesn’t scroll

[balmy condor]

Hybrids ofc

Full gems are awful

[woeful wigeon]

wanted to be sure XD

[royal lantern]

that is excatly why it doesnt matter, you have 1 tea for kingsbane anyway cus they share the CD

i really REALLY hate the auto tea idea, but its no big deal overall

[sharp viper]

I'm gonna socket a stamina gem and tell everyone whispyr told me to do it

[royal lantern]

(still fuck auto tea, who the hell came up with that)

[normal mist]

Wdymmmm

[sharp viper]

3 finger joe complained about button bloat

[blissful pumice]

I mean if the tea procs to early cause u spam ur spells its bad cause u want it for the last 6 sec of kingsbane...

[balmy condor]

Yeah that first scroll up

At the very beginning

It’s fucking stretching

[tired gull]

Why do you want tea for last 6 of kb?

[royal lantern]

can we put nerubian patch on a ring btw?

or only armor pieces

[median igloo]

Will auto tea spam itself if you keep dropping below 30 energy during shiv?

[sharp viper]

mastery makes kingsbane damage bigger

[balmy condor]

Only armor I think

[balmy condor]

Yes

[blissful pumice]

The tea give u Mastery and Kingsbane deals more dmg at the end

[median igloo]

Ugh

[balmy condor]

Tf you mean ugh

[royal lantern]

ye just checked at the order station, rip, bit cringe

[balmy condor]

That’s what you want

[subtle tundra]

you use tea for energy not for mastery uwu

if you run out of energy you press it even if not at the end

[blissful pumice]

no thats wrong xD

[golden loom]

all I am hearing a lot less buttons to press

[balmy condor]

??????

[subtle tundra]

😔

[balmy condor]

Guys are we serious right now

What the hell is happening in EU

[nova aspen]

i am serious sam

[subtle tundra]

im at work

and i want to leave...

[median igloo]

So I should be using multiple teas during shiv currently? I must've understood this all wrong

[nova aspen]

[balmy condor]

If it won’t overcap your energy, yes

[royal lantern]

no, you use tea togheter with shiv if it results in you actually getting 100 energy

[blissful pumice]

U pool the teas for Deathmark and Kingsbane to get more dmg

[subtle tundra]

you want to use all charges asap so you dont autoproc out of shiv ig

[grim jay]

Are you really surprised that they never properly read your guide?

[royal lantern]

no you dont

[balmy condor]

No you don’t please stop

You pool teas for shivs because energy during shiv is good

[blissful pumice]

that is the same

[balmy condor]

Deathmark and kingsbane just happen to also exist during shiv

No

It is not

[blissful pumice]

u use shiv at the last 8 secs for kingsbane

thats the window i am talkin about

[subtle tundra]

🧑

[balmy condor]

So you use 2 teas in your opener then?

[blissful pumice]

if its raid y

in m+ u got 1 shiv

[balmy condor]

Yeah so you’re wrong

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

Lmao

[blissful pumice]

that were the logs of best assas i am open for a tip xD

[median igloo]

Opener with lust I don't dump enough energy

[balmy condor]

Best tip I can give you is read a fucking guide bro

[nova aspen]

"best assa" in logs is just padders

[balmy condor]

I cannot keep repeating this tea shit

[golden loom]

first tea u can just slam to get a charge CD ticking during opener

[balmy condor]

Over and over

[grim jay]

Cap

[viscid spear]

[balmy condor]

You use 1 tea on opener to get the cd rolling

[nova aspen]

[balmy condor]

You use teas after that during shiv, for energy

It is

Not difficult

[grim jay]

There are fights where you cant pad

[keen mantle]

Envenom bad

[blissful pumice]

Hm ok maybe overthinking it i saw some ppls using 2 with deathmark and 1 when u only got the kingsbane

[nova aspen]

they find a way

[balmy condor]

Other way around usually

[nova aspen]

[blissful pumice]

always with shiv ofc

[grim jay]

Is that fiesta online? Or whats with the graphic

[royal lantern]

@grim jay pls tell me that still counts

[balmy condor]

Deathmark gives you a ton of energy on its own

Why would you double tea

[sharp viper]

i turned in thenerubar finery, but the tooltip is still at 0% for severed strands - is the tooltip bugged or the quest itself?

[balmy condor]

Tooltip

[blissful pumice]

because of the mastery u get

[golden loom]

the mastery is not relevant

[balmy condor]

I will scream

[grim jay]

Barely. How tf do you have that much crit, my sims even wanted me to change enchants as I went over 30

[balmy condor]

No one said anything about mastery

We use it

For energy

With an E

Energy

[sharp viper]

do you scream while reading this discord at work?

[balmy condor]

The big yellow bar

[blissful pumice]

xD

[balmy condor]

That’s why we press tea

I don’t know

[tired gull]

That’s why tea keybind is E, for energy ofc

[balmy condor]

How else to say this

[royal lantern]

uhm

got the rashanan neck last week, and now seal

both are very crit heavy

[viscid spear]

Pretty sure all three spec writers scream regularly

[cunning basin]

I need the use your brain clip

[royal lantern]

like, those 2 items are 9k crit allready

[grim jay]

Does it heal you? My health bar is yellow

[median igloo]

Mine is T

[nova aspen]

just redirect to wowhead guide and then pray for him

[cunning basin]

Mine is control 5

[sharp viper]

i like to think they get on a call to do that

[cunning basin]

🙂

[balmy condor]

Drink crimson vial irl

[grim jay]

Ew alright. Ye im still using keychain

[tired gull]

Mine is actually alt+2

[cunning basin]

It's just them in a discord call collectively screaming for about 30 minutes then they hang up

[grim jay]

Sex on the beach or bloody mary ?

[royal lantern]

i think thats why the sim wanted mastery enchantss on both rings, and mastery gems

[cunning basin]

I FOUND IT

[balmy condor]

Cherry flavored battery acid

[grim jay]

Please dont say those disgusting Tabasco shots

[cunning basin]

[viscid spear]

Antifreeze is tasty

[balmy condor]

If it can power my TV remote it can power me

[grim jay]

Thats insanely based

[blissful pumice]

Dunno if 50 ernergie are at higher stake to play around then 13% master xD

[cunning basin]

[grim jay]

Does it taste good?

[spice spire]

Man just said drink the potion twice irl

Jesus

[grim jay]

Cant imagine the flavour of battery acid

[blissful pumice]

100 energie i meant

[grim jay]

[royal lantern]

tf

[cunning basin]

Probably not great at first, then it won't matter after

[median igloo]

Do I want to click this while at work

[grim jay]

Yes you can

[cunning basin]

Putting in my ear buds just for that

[blissful pumice]

well i guess u do u

[balmy condor]

Dunno if energy are at higher stake xD mastery play around xD 13%

I’m fucking

[flint tinsel]

I guess you are masturbating?

[balmy condor]

Telling you

It is

[grim jay]

I love how it sounds so freaking disappointed

[balmy condor]

It’s not a question

I am informing you

That it is better

[cunning basin]

My brother in Christ you're talking to the guy that writes the guide

Like

[balmy condor]

Its not a discussion whether its better or worse or what

[cunning basin]

If anyone knows anything at all

[balmy condor]

I am correcting you

[cunning basin]

It is him

[grim jay]

And does the apl work

And testing (ty to eleem aswell)

[cunning basin]

Basically all the work so we don't have to

[viscid spear]

Still better than Lacroix

[cunning basin]

That shit is disgusting

[blissful pumice]

thats fine but correcting is best if you give the other person a reason then just telling i am right and u are wrong xD

[balmy condor]

What reason do you need

[grim jay]

Math is the reason

[balmy condor]

The mastery during shiv

[blissful pumice]

I give it a try i just got the information out of a guide thats why

[balmy condor]

Like the mastery is worse than the energy

[prime hull]

If tea is for energy during shiv, should I be using it on my m+ shivs at ~:35 outside of kingsbane? I've been trying to save it for kingsbane + shivs.

[balmy condor]

That’s the reason

[cunning basin]

WHISPYR WROTE THE GUIDE BROTHER

[fallen arch]

‘Because it means more dam’

[balmy condor]

What do you want from me

[fallen arch]

Is that enough reason

[blissful pumice]

yes thats all i needed to hear

[balmy condor]

[cunning basin]

🤦

[balmy condor]

I can’t

[tawdry halo]

Bro he literally said it 4 times earlier

[austere linden]

why is everyone ranking crystal from DB as better than alot of other trinkets, when it sims for me way worse than ritual knife/spyglass on same ilvl?

[tired gull]

[cunning basin]

How do I keep it together I have to know

[grim jay]

Thats bcs of your gear

[balmy condor]

I don’t

[grim jay]

Bcs you simmed your char

[balmy condor]

Yes

[cunning basin]

Valid

Lmao

[woven shore]

Im sooo sad

[fair viper]

Thoughts on vault? Have Skardyn's 626 and Sacbrood 619 currently. Sims say Crystal wins a bit over shoulders in Dungeon Slice, but shoulders are like 1.9k increase ST

[woven shore]

😦

[prime hull]

Thank you. It was a bit confusing to me because if I used it every shiv for energy I would quickly run out and not have any for my deathmark shiv

[balmy condor]

That’s fine

Deathmark gives you energy

[prime hull]

Since they are at :30 cadence rather than 1:00 cadence like in raid

[balmy condor]

It ends up being the same though

[cunning basin]

If you care more about raid and raw ilevel shouldies, if you just want results rn and crystal sims better than something you have on take crystal

[safe barn]

i miss blindside in m+

its so fun

[fair viper]

I don't raid at all ^^

[cunning basin]

Shouldies always win in the long term since myth tier shoulders won't ever get replaces

Replaced*

[woven shore]

I had raid today and then i had another 67log on ulgrax mythic
Im so fucking bad

I forget to pool sometimes
I forget to save second kingsbane for adds to deal more aoe dmg

[fair viper]

That's kinda what I thought

[cunning basin]

Don't try to parse on ulgrax

Just pretend it's a ST fight and don't look at your parse, you'll be much happier

[woven shore]

😭

[balmy condor]

Like think of a 3 min boss in m+ vs in raid right

You either go 2x shiv back to back, or 1 shiv every 30s, but in both situations you’re getting 16s of shiv in a minute

During those 16 seconds of shiv, you’re spamming envenoms, regardless of where they are

[cunning basin]

People do degenerate shit to get parses on that boss

[balmy condor]

Bonus points if you’re in aoe and CT is going

Cause then you’re getting value for that too

Like here’s a fun fact, there’s a world where macroing shiv and tea is reasonable

[cunning basin]

Yeah like short term big upgrade is better now but long term you'll end up taking shoulders anyways and the crystal will likely get replaced, so better off just taking ahoulders

[balmy condor]

And that’s in aoe with arterial precision

[subtle tundra]

those things wont get you to a 90

you have other problems

[balmy condor]

Because with arterial precision in 4+ aoe you just slam the shiv+tea for mastery

[grim jay]

How are you long term replacing myth track crystal eventually

Thats just wrong

[balmy condor]

But that sucks in single target

Cause like

[woven shore]

And on bloodhound i fucked up on kill bc i was on the add killing side
Beam came out
And then we had 2seconds left to kill it so i tried to shadowstep but 0,1s cd and no cloak i died

2m before kill

[balmy condor]

It’s not aoe shiv buffing a ton of other shit

[woven shore]

I had barely and aoe dmg

[cunning basin]

I mean... Myth skardyn's and deadeye both sim better for me than crystal o.o

[woven shore]

I had the most st dmg tho

[grim jay]

Yes for you

[woven shore]

It was an add dmg problem for sure

[grim jay]

Look at fuus sheet for example

[balmy condor]

Deadeye sims worse for me

[sleek spear]

is assas the best spec currently for both Raiding and M+?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[cunning basin]

So does sacbrood, and hero track mandate

[nimble ether]

Hell yeah

[fallen arch]

Best spec in game since 2004

[balmy condor]

Sacbrood also worse for me

[grim jay]

How tf would hero Mandate sim better than crystal on mythic

[balmy condor]

Mandate pog though

[cunning basin]

Because mandate fucks

[golden loom]

time to respec to sin and see what my classic hc guild says

[balmy condor]

Mandate indeed fucks

[cunning basin]

It drank its Wheaties ig

[winged quail]

mandate crits on low hp targets

[cunning basin]

Or whatever the saying is

[winged quail]

ouch

[fallen arch]

Sure gl

Whisp look what I got

[woven shore]

For me
Skandyr and the Princess trinket sim the best (the shadow something thing)

[balmy condor]

Nice

Big

[fallen arch]

Big trinket

[balmy condor]

Indeed

[cunning basin]

Above average W

[fallen arch]

I’m 30 runs deep into GB without skardyns tho

That kinda blows

[balmy condor]

Maybe deadeye actually good for me now

[cunning basin]

Oof

[balmy condor]

Cause I got ovi’nax ring

[grim jay]

Anyways, its a you thing in that case. For me crystal sims highest out of all the reasonable trinkets and fuus sheet has a trinket comparison, where its within 1k St and bis in m+, so the statement overall is rather wrong

[balmy condor]

Hm

[woven shore]

So i did very well

[dapper cradle]

[visual sun]

How tf do you guys get ur mandate to fuck. Mine was just canoodling lfr bosses when i tried it earlier

[oak eagle]

just like, loot it from vault like I did this week

[woven shore]

I dealt like 440mil dmg st

[balmy condor]

Crit

[fallen arch]

That’s the plan yes

[woven shore]

And my guild is stacked af

[fallen arch]

[warm vortex]

:(

[cunning basin]

Big neck

[nova aspen]

😦

[warm vortex]

Imma sim cause idk if its better than pendant

i might just take the shoes

[grim jay]

Getting 1 of the 3 equal myth track trinkets-> equipping it and building your gear/stats according to sim -> gear should 9/10 times end up better with the trinket you build it with and all in all within margin on a max setup

[nova aspen]

i got that neck from the dungeon quest, sims -14k for me

[balmy condor]

In st?

[rocky plover]

got sacbrood and dawn trinket in vault, cant make up my mind:(

[nova aspen]

in dungeon slice

[woven shore]

Is someone here with a 90LOG on ulgrax mythic

Can i see the log please

[balmy condor]

M+ is a wretched scourge

[covert lichen]

Anyone got tips on what to take? I got the same booties at 619 ilvl, and for trinkets i have 626 spyglass and 619 treacherous transmitter.

[ashen rover]

hmmmm

[cunning basin]

The hero version is meh for me but myth is like 14 or so k increase

[grim jay]

What are you cooking again

[cunning basin]

But I'm also pretty low on haste I think

[grim jay]

Crystal

Easy

[balmy condor]

Haste trinket bad in aoe centric sims

[fallen arch]

Crystal

[balmy condor]

More news at 11

[cunning basin]

Or maybe not, it's hard to tell with alchemical chaos always running kek

[warm vortex]

Might take toekns and add a socket to a 636 embelish piece

[nova aspen]

im also fatebound, so neck prob better for deathstalker

[woven shore]

Got benched
I think i underperform

[warm vortex]

if the neck doesnt sim that is

but boots could be good as current ones arent myth track

[covert lichen]

Is crystal better than skardyn at 626?

[grim jay]

And how does a 90 log help you with that

[fallen arch]

Dont think so

[woven shore]

I just want to look at it

[warm vortex]

They aint good stats but
when im going from a hero piece to a myth piece i doubt stats matter kek

[grim jay]

You use crystal with skardyn

Together

[kind forge]

www warcraftlogs com

[cunning basin]

Why do you need a 90 on a pad boss as an assassination rogue

[subtle tundra]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/38#boss=2902&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination

[warm vortex]

This vault fucking sucks

[fallen arch]

Bench your warriors and pad for a 105 log

[warm vortex]

ok so i wanted GB trink in less than 20 runs

now i want it in less than 30

[grim jay]

Wish it was a pad Boss for me, but my mates are just demolishing the adds

[viscid spear]

Ugh, warriors

[warm vortex]

and it's prolly gonna become less than 40

then 50

then 60

[cunning basin]

I don't even run caustic on that fight

We have 2-3 fury warriors 2 mm hunters and a frost dk in

[fallen arch]

U still should lol

[covert lichen]

Crystal (639) + Skardyn (626) > Skardyn (626) + Spyglass (626)?

[grim jay]

Definitely.

[fallen arch]

Sim that chief

[main plover]

did something happen to assa talents? barely anyone plays vicious venoms anymore

[cunning basin]

I quite literally cannot apply a rupture to the adds before they die brother

Ulgrax is a st fight for me in my guild lmao

[golden loom]

for heroic or mythic?

[oak eagle]

Whisp, Im just rewatching your original 11.0.5 patch notes video, any idea if the pandemicing Envenom got fixed, and same with if you apply a third envenom?

[warm vortex]

I always do bad damage on ulgrax

every week in not top 7

[shell ivy]

any candles in the chat

[warm vortex]

like every other boss, top 3 or 4

ulgrax o

[covert lichen]

Simmed 60k better dps for Crystal + splyglass

[nova aspen]

[oak eagle]

I dont see the bug list in the pins anymore

[tired gull]

That’s a spelunker’s wet dream

[covert lichen]

I guess Crystal + skardyn goes hard then

[nova aspen]

kobolds coming for your vault right now

[cunning basin]

I run internal bleeding on ulgrax cuz I CBA to swap my talents for the adds when the boss just kinda falls over at this point

[snow sinew]

fuckin goblin

[warm vortex]

Guess it's boots

[woven shore]

I just WANT IT

Btw

[cunning basin]

I stand there and wait for adds, I see them approach, I press fok and they're dead

[woven shore]

I wanted to see a log bc i feel like i dealt bad st dmg

But this top 98 guy had only 360mil st dmg

I dealt 418mil

So @cunning basin i did well in st then

[cunning basin]

In the most real and literal sense you will not get a 90 parse if you have a semi-regular raid comp for that boss. Like if all your fury warriors and frost DKs and shit aren't there then you can parse

Yeah I mean that is defo good st

[arctic socket]

On the first boss just focus on dealing single target on if

If you wanna parse

[dawn heath]

kinda contemplating if i should use the crest exploit and craft a ring to get 2x 636 rings

[arctic socket]

Go mythic+ build

[dawn heath]

or if its worth upgrading like my trinkets to 626

[arctic socket]

Hold cds for add phase

Pump then

[dawn heath]

worth upgrading trinkets to 626?

[woven shore]

Problem is we have 2frost dks xd

The dks were analfucking the adds

[fallen arch]

Tricks them

[rugged sphinx]

!trinkets

[woven shore]

[cunning basin]

You're an assassination rogue, assassinate them

[sour citrus]

!trinkets

[woven shore]

Hahahahaahahhahaahhahah

[cunning basin]

For the parse

[woven shore]

Can they find out that i did that

[sour citrus]

!trinket

[cunning basin]

"MB must have focused the wrong person sorry D:"

[woven shore]

[viscid spear]

I should pick up Tricks for raid, every so often I go to Ambush and I get pimpslapped and CD saves me.

[nova aspen]

blame the hunter

[cunning basin]

Yeah they can if they look at logs

[nova aspen]

misdirect

[woven shore]

Fk

[cunning basin]

Just make up something

[woven shore]

Whatever however

On bloodhound

[late tusk]

Tricky question here, guides sais cri>mastery

[woven shore]

There was a FUCKING RUN

[woven shore]

I almost had a 100log

[late tusk]

but murlock io says mastery>crit

[warm vortex]

Neck seems good ST tho

[woven shore]

And we wiped

[oak eagle]

happens to me so much in raid even with tricks because my tanks dont use my shroud, and my range pull at 2 seconds left so I just get molly whopped by the boss

[woven shore]

Fuck my life

[late tusk]

Tricky question here, guides sais cri>mastery, but murlock io says mastery>crit, what should i aim for¿

[woven shore]

I had 1,560mil dps

[viscid spear]

They don't like when I Shroud as we pullb

[balmy condor]

Item level

[woven shore]

And then the group who had to kill the one single add messed up

And i didnt get my 100 log on a mythic boss

[balmy condor]

Item level

[late tusk]

same ilvl,

[oak eagle]

one of my tanks complains that I dont press shroud, and then do nothing when I do and my cheat goes on CD

[balmy condor]

Item level

[balmy condor]

Sim

[rugged sphinx]

are people running the ovi'nax trinket?

[woven shore]

If it sims better probably

[late tusk]

I can sim if its a drop item, but finding what dungeon to spam its different

[woven shore]

Im still seeing alot of people running this Delves trinket

Shadowblade or something

[dawn heath]

having too many myth track items that u cant upgrade is that a first world problem?

[oak eagle]

its really not, just look up the item, and then wowhead will tell you which dungeon

[grim jay]

Its shit to play

[viscid spear]

They probably don't understand the mechanics.
I see that a lot in my Alli guild; very few play the class so almost no one understands it.

[balmy condor]

I give up

[woven shore]

Yea i Believe that

[late tusk]

But i cant simc with the item no?¿

[nova aspen]

never give up, never surrender!

[woven shore]

Well whatever

Yesterday i got my mythic dagger

[oak eagle]

this is in top gear

[woven shore]

Time to 639 it

[oak eagle]

you can find any item there

can make it whatever item level you want

[grim jay]

Stay strong

Remember the good times

[balmy condor]

Tea convo #1157 into this

[grim jay]

When we spammed tb on CD together with tryan

[balmy condor]

I’m not strong enough

[oak eagle]

Whisp, Im just rewatching your original 11.0.5 patch notes video, any idea if the pandemicing Envenom got fixed, and same with if you apply a third envenom? I dont see the bug list in the pins anymore, so idk if it was fixed or not

[balmy condor]

It’s not a big

Bug

That’s a feature of async buffs

Ironfur works the same way

[oak eagle]

oh i thought it was

[balmy condor]

Async stacking buffs just remove the pandemic timer

Yeah I thought so too and then I research

And I was like

Wait

That’s a feature

[oak eagle]

hey im just goin off what you said in your video so

any misinformation i spread

its because of you

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Happens

[fallen arch]

We get 2 envenom bars then

[balmy condor]

Kinda

But worse than that

Clipping envenoms is now inherently a loss

[nova aspen]

[cunning cloak]

Wait wut

[balmy condor]

Like clipping an envenom at 1s left is just by definition worse than 0.2s left

[fallen arch]

Because of this?

[balmy condor]

Cause no pandemic

So you just lose 0.8s of uptime

[fallen arch]

But huh

I’m confused

Since it stacks

[balmy condor]

Yes

[nova aspen]

so the change is a buff to dm window, but a nerf outside of it?

[fallen arch]

It doesn’t fall off anymore right

[grim jay]

Can see new people reading this now and doing wild things

[balmy condor]

Yeah but now you just have the same thing but at 2 stacks

[cunning cloak]

So env buff doesnt pandemic and stacks like iron fur?

[fallen arch]

Oh it stacks too?

[balmy condor]

Ofc

[fallen arch]

That’s kinda big tho no

[balmy condor]

Yes

[fallen arch]

Still have to watch your video on it

[grim jay]

So you track both stacks and just chain 2 envenoms back to back each time?

[balmy condor]

I can’t say hello without some mfer quoting me out of context this is just my life

[balmy condor]

Well yes but no

[ocean plover]

would you take Sikran Neck over Emergency Stop Neck? i thought Emergency was BiS but Sikran simst higher

[nova aspen]

new rotation hype next tuesday

[normal mist]

Sim

Just sim

[balmy condor]

It’s basically just same gameplay except double the envenom during shivs

[ocean plover]

y Sikran sim higher

[cunning cloak]

Trust our robot overlord

Because it does, trust the robot

[grim jay]

Fair enough

[normal mist]

Bora, sim para cima

[balmy condor]

Cima

[normal mist]

Arribaaaa

[nova aspen]

but the real question

is that a buff

[grim jay]

Wasch labascht du

[normal mist]

German is forbidden

[nova aspen]

[balmy condor]

Not really

[nova aspen]

[balmy condor]

Maybe there’s some cook, sims atm are still raw

[grim jay]

I dont even know what that language was and you just wanna tell us to not use german

[balmy condor]

But on first glance supercharger looks to be kinda better in aoe, worse in single target, and ttk is good and makes up that difference

And so we just end up being net neutral-ish

[normal mist]

That was Portuguese!

[tired gull]

How I like my cookie dough

[nova aspen]

im willing to give deathstalker another shot with supercharger

[grim jay]

Ok ronaldo

[normal mist]

CR7

[balmy condor]

We still play supercharger

Or 2x lethality

[cunning cloak]

Messi is better

[balmy condor]

Both good

[nova aspen]

i wasnt a fan of the anima charge mini game

[normal mist]

Probably

[grim jay]

They both suck

[normal mist]

Neither of them fill my vault

[grim jay]

Because soccer sucks

[normal mist]

So idc

[balmy condor]

I wish

What

[grim jay]

Are we not enough for you?

[normal mist]

Obviously not

[balmy condor]

Brother this place is a prison

[midnight mist]

elo whisper

[oak eagle]

true, hockey on top

[cunning cloak]

Stockholm syndrome whispyr?

[balmy condor]

I’m like sylvanas if she couldn’t rip the helmet

[crimson vector]

Do we lose ER as a button next week?

[nova aspen]

but u dont typically help ppl in prison

[normal mist]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Hi

[grim jay]

You look better

[nova aspen]

[balmy condor]

Hm

[crimson vector]

Sin about to have 0 buttons

[nova aspen]

lose 2 buttons aye

so many key binds available now

[woven shore]

Whisp do you do coaching

[balmy condor]

Could be compliment cause sylvanas is sex symbol, could be backhanded compliment because sylvanas died like 15 years ago

[tired gull]

You do in other ways

[balmy condor]

I used to, no time now

[woven shore]

f

[grim jay]

The first one obviously, silly

[near apex]

Slice and dice button-> ping button

[normal mist]

Ping button?

[balmy condor]

Don’t tell my raid lead that I have like 10 keybind holes now

[cunning cloak]

First one, you're the figure head of assass spec

[balmy condor]

He’s gonna make me place world markers

[grim jay]

Ngl its so bad, especially with er gone, idk what I should move there.

[balmy condor]

I’m already mark duty for worms on ovi’nax

[oak eagle]

i too, am on mark duty

[normal mist]

He knows you have time between mutilates

[oak eagle]

which marker does your guild make you do

[balmy condor]

I think I’m straight up deleting a full bar

[oak eagle]

mine makes me do X

[balmy condor]

Green

I guess maybe I don’t delete a full action bar

I still need ovi’nax macros

[grim jay]

And your pvp macros

[oak eagle]

i dont need those until next season

when m+ again doesnt come out for the first week

so i can just get 4set instantly

because i only need 1600

[dim tundra]

is it worth to socket every other gem for the blasphemite buff or just use mastery crit for aoe

[cunning cloak]

Sim

[balmy condor]

Amen

[cunning cloak]

My sims tell me to run haste/mast gems, but your sim may be different

[nova aspen]

pvp

[grim jay]

Im so fucking proud of you

[cunning cloak]

Ty

Why are you proud of me so I can do it moar

[blissful pumice]

what macros do u us for the trinket? Feels rly strange in m+, i dont like the trinket 😄

[balmy condor]

What

[nova aspen]

ah shit, here we go again .gif

[oak eagle]

hes talking about actual marking macros

that you need on the boss

[balmy condor]

Macro’s for ovi’nax

[oak eagle]

to kill the boss

[grim jay]

Because you presented your personal experience, but also told him that it might not be right for him and told him what he is supposed to do

[blissful pumice]

ah ok sorry i thougt the trinket

[tall jay]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[blissful pumice]

cause in sims the Ovi nax trinket is good but in reality it feels bad in M+ cause u move so muc. thougt i missed some secret tech^^

[balmy condor]

Secret tech is don’t move so much

If you can keep the trinket under 20 stacks it’s good

If you can’t, it’s worse

[blissful pumice]

y its hard to do that in m+ cause u run from pac to pac

[balmy condor]

Yah and then you plant

[blissful pumice]

raid is fine u can move the staks before the pull

[balmy condor]

And the stacks go the other way

[woven shore]

im so ashamed

[oak eagle]

did you die

[woven shore]

especially for sikram

yes

[oak eagle]

like 10 seconds in

[woven shore]

30pulls

i was always one of the last 6

and then on kill

i was the first to die

[oak eagle]

KEKW

[woven shore]

fuck my life dude

[oak eagle]

seems like how it is with my guilds mage

when we kill

[woven shore]

65 and 51

[oak eagle]

he gets no procs

[woven shore]

im so bad

i want to die

in game ofc

[keen glade]

its only game, why you heff to be mad

[woven shore]

bc i love showing others that im better then them

and i swear to god

[fallen arch]

Clearly u arent

I mean

[slim pebble]

I got in for a couple mythic kills this week and died to a charge on first boss because I’m bad

Was a real feels good moment

[fallen arch]

Sounds like ur a bit too hung up on parsing

[woven shore]

either i perform CRAZY and then we wipe
or we kill and bad rng and then bad log

[fallen arch]

Bad logs is not due to bad rng

[woven shore]

this

[fallen arch]

Its due to bad habits usually

[nova aspen]

we call that parse-brain

[woven shore]

well okay lets say
bad shit happening

yea a bad habbit is that i think team oriented

[fallen arch]

Uh no

[normal mist]

Bosses dying > parses

[woven shore]

and then die by beam trying to kill last add on hound

xD

[blissful pumice]

how can that be bad xD

[nova aspen]

i need to pug the first 2 bosses of mythic, i wonder how that will go

[fallen arch]

If you’re a team player you wouldn’t cry about average logs

[woven shore]

well you got me sir

[normal mist]

@fallen arch is killing it today

[woven shore]

[normal mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[fallen arch]

Almost tier 2 revamp buddy @normal mist

[normal mist]

I knowww

[golden prairie]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[woven shore]

im crying because im on trial for the first time now in a guild were former CE players are in

[gentle tusk]

Anyone knows if it's better having 1 gem of any type + diamond or ignore 0.15% crit dmg e just go straight diamond + mastery crit gems?

[fallen arch]

If they’re 3/8 now start running though

[woven shore]

and i mean I AM doing fine i think
But then i get unlucky like yesterday and i feel like im the worst player ever

[fallen arch]

Happens, just do better next time

If it’s a guild that only gives you one chance to begin with, i’d start looking for another one anyway

[woven shore]

[dull dirge]

What's the current best crafted items i can make for assa?

[woven shore]

i had to leave on sikram

[flint tusk]

To me would the move speed main stat gem give more damage over the crit effect just based on increasing uptime slightly?

[median igloo]

Are you the only rogue?

[woven shore]

they said its nothing personal its so that the other ppl joining can fill vault aswell

but idk if i can believe that

[woven shore]

no

there is one crazy outlaw

[nova aspen]

outlaw's do be crazy tho

[woven shore]

however we both doing pretty similar

even with the 7-8 ivl difference

[dull dirge]

What's the current best crafted items i can make for assa? is it dagger & lowest ilvl with ascension and writhing or still double dawnthread?

[woven shore]

why asking

[median igloo]

Just curious. Most guilds aren't fielding more than 1 rogue in raid comps

[woven shore]

he sit on first two bosses

[twin spoke]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[woven shore]

then me and two others got swapped

[limber dew]

does anyone know of any boss by boss hits/tips cheat sheets for mythic NP?

[pure moth]

Sounds like my old guild we swapped around so everyone could get 2 mythic vaults atleast. Make it fair for everyone. No harm there.

[tulip fern]

Yo, anyone think they can explain to me exactly how the deathmark bleed duplication works? Like is it dependent on duration left on current bleeds or is it a fresh one with the same damage buffs applied (i.e imp garrote)? Maybe a bit of both (aka it duplicates the same damage of bleed but with the duration set at whatever it was at when deathmark was pressed)

[woven shore]

okay

[limber dew]

@woven shore I have experienced my first time on the bench since Vanilla Wow this week, but I had taken a big break, and slightly behind in gear, game sense and muscle memory. feels bad but I completely understand why they do it, and it just gives me time to do my m10s and continue to hone my muscle memory for when they rotate me back in. Keep your head high, keep up the grind and im sure next time they will rotate someone else out ❤️

get your chance at that shiney neck in the vault from Silkran 😄

[woven shore]

last week i didnt got benched

[cunning basin]

While deathmark is active whatever bleeds you have up are on there twice. If you have an improved garrote up, you have 2 of that exact same bleed ticking and so on

[limber dew]

it happens in a lot of guilds, to keep the numbers up, give everyone game time so that when holidays are around they have cover and can comprise their stronger setups if needed in progress. I am sure come next raid or reset you will be blasting away again 🙂

[cunning basin]

It doesn't like copy your bleeds and then they last their full duration, it all occurs during deathmark

[tulip fern]

Oh okay so the deathmark acts as its own damage + while its active all bleeds do 2x?

[cunning basin]

On application, it's all copied, when it runs out, back to normal

More or less yeah. But since it's 2 separate instances of rupture/garrote you generate double energy from venomous wounds

[tulip fern]

Okay cool, thank you 🙂

[cunning basin]

No probs

[limber dew]

standard opener includes a vanish and imp garrote, during the deathmark window. does that act as an extension to the original garrote thus affected by deathmark? or does this override deathmark?

[woven shore]

the thing is that ive never been in a mythic raid guild so far

[limber dew]

should i have been letting the deathmarked garrote drop off? @cunning basin

[woven shore]

im so nervous everytime i think about raid

[cunning basin]

Huh?

[tulip fern]

from what I have just learned, the deathmark itself contains the garrote so no, your garrote that you see is its own beast

[limber dew]

taht is what i thought 😄

[cunning basin]

Yeah it's all like its own thing

Basically think of it as deathmark makes your dots stack to 2

And adds a stack

More or less

Smth like that

[strange python]

How big of a dps buff are the Ironclaw Whetstone on both daggers? they kinda expensive tbf or its super small

[limber dew]

i cant raid or do m+ without them 😄

my brain tells me that its a gain so should be used, i get sick using rank2, but there isnt much in it

[coral ibex]

just use kobold cum

[cunning basin]

I just use wax and a buzzing rune lmao yolo

[limber dew]

you can use wax

[late ravine]

What do I really choose here I have neck in Hero, but trinket looks juicy too. Boots sims highest XD but i aint taking em

[woven shore]

take the mythic track skardyn

or no whatever

the mythic neck

cant get better than this

[cunning basin]

If you don't already have a myth skardyn's take that. Since it's such a gamble of whether or not you'll ever see it again

[strange python]

Where tf do I buy them

[tulip fern]

That is such an aids decision lol, take the grace and never tell officers you saw neck lol

[woven shore]

id say take the neck

[dapper cradle]

skardyn's for sure

[cunning basin]

You don't. Go to the inn at the city in ringing deeps and there's a suspicious vent, do the quests it gives you, and you'll be able to pickpocket them from kobolds

[dapper cradle]

less of a chance to get that from vault

and neck can always drop

[limber dew]

if your raiding to parse, rank 3 ironclaws, if you raiding to get kills and still perform very well, rank 2s as they are a few hundred gold each. That would be my recommendation, I am unsure how they compare to wax which i think is just something you grind in ringing deep.

[coral ibex]

no shot

take the neck

[cunning basin]

You can parse with bubbling wax

[limber dew]

I would always take that neck 😄

its big and just helps the whole team out.

[dapper cradle]

just sim it bro

[cunning basin]

Tbh the whetstones are not remotely worth it unless you're so rich that it doesn't matter

[coral ibex]

wax and whetstones are pretty comparable

[limber dew]

the trinket may sim higher, but you gotta look at the long game

[coral ibex]

and one is free

[cunning basin]

You never pass up myth track BiS items from m+

[limber dew]

100% agree nooj

[late ravine]

KEK

[nova aspen]

do u guys apply wax to both weapons?

[late ravine]

Simmed with max usage of 90 gilded too

[nova aspen]

or just MH?

[coral ibex]

wax doesn’t stack so just mh

[dapper cradle]

where are the % numbers?

[cunning basin]

You have no guarantee of ever getting the skardyn's, the neck if you're consistently raiding mythic will drop from the boss some number of times

[limber dew]

@late ravine you got some nice gear there mate 😄

[dapper cradle]

this is the enlightened take

[torpid temple]

If you main sin myth skardyns is a no-brainer imo

[late ravine]

I main Sin

[dapper cradle]

looks like it's skardyns all the way bro

follow your gut though idk

[cunning basin]

As someone who has gone an entire tier without ever getting my BiS m+ item from vault - I will make that decision every time lmao

[late ravine]

yeah, idk too lmao, I picked hero neck last week

[cunning basin]

Idc if I got ansurek ring in vault, odds of getting that are way higher than getting myth track trinkets

[dapper cradle]

ansurek ring would be the only thing I'd take from raid tier ngl

since it's actually good stats too

[sage tiger]

is wax not usable on high ilvl weapons again?

[cunning basin]

It is

[sage tiger]

i used one 3 hours ago, now it says target is too high level

but if i equip a low ilvl weapon it works

[slim pebble]

Oh no

[cunning basin]

Oh god I hope that didn't get bricked again

I literally just farmed my 20 for the week on both fuckin rogues last night before work

[slim pebble]

If I farmed all that cum for nothing ima be upset. I jerked off kobolds for like 30 minutes the other day

[dapper cradle]

some junior developer farted on the code and bricked it

[sage tiger]

blizzard is hiring kobolds, and they don't want to be pickpocketed anymore

[cunning basin]

Why is rogue always the one getting bricked 🥲 bro delete all of mage's fun talents or smth for once

[warm vortex]

Hey

if i wanna piss around and play fatebound

[cunning basin]

I'd try relogging tho for sure, if that doesn't work idk. I guess waiting game till it decides to work again

[warm vortex]

what do i change from deathstalker rotation wise

[sage tiger]

eta gg

[cunning basin]

You start with garrote instead of ambush and don't have to play around darkest night

GGez

[warm vortex]

Ah alr

i see cold blood though

what would i macro that with, if at all?

[coral ibex]

wax works fine for me

[cunning basin]

Macro it into envenom 👍 and forget about it

[coral ibex]

literally just applied it to my 636 dagger

[warm vortex]

Oh nice nice

[cunning basin]

You're bricked brother gg

[warm vortex]

Thought i would have to use it to line it up w specific coin flips or smth

[sage tiger]

okay blizzard, thanks for the personal nerf

[cunning basin]

Delete character roll a new toon drop it to a 2 ff at 10

It's joever

[limber dew]

@sage tiger have you tried taking it off and putting it back on again

@coral ibex could it be because the base item level is like 606 at min craft, it is coded diffrently? have you tried applying it to the offhand

[cunning basin]

Kingslayers mog, a fellow man of culture I see

[sage tiger]

yea

took them off, switched them around

[limber dew]

@sage tiger shame, it works for PC issues most of the time, thought id try my luck 😄

[coral ibex]

works fine

[dapper cradle]

post mog?

[limber dew]

@sage tiger link what you are trying to apply

[tulip fern]

Going back to this because I'm kinda a clown, do you know the reason why some players are not applying imp garrote before deathmark (even with it talented) but instead using vanish to refresh garrote during deathmark but then kinda wasting the imp garrote

[warm vortex]

Aight

time to flip some coins

[sharp orchid]

Wich one is best for m+ between [Empowering Crystal of Anub'ikkaj] or [Ara-Kara Sacbrood]?

[grim jay]

Rip brother

[cunning basin]

No fuckin idea 🤷 when I play Improved Garrote first vanish refreshes garrote during dm and then I line it up with dm after

[grim jay]

Sim yourself