assassination

[ionic fox]

We using seal of poisoned impact in keys or nahhh

vs 2 626 crit mast rings

[frosty bridge]

help

[brisk forge]

Sim! For me queen ring sim higher

[frosty bridge]

surely ring or?

[ionic fox]

myth track crit mast ring

[frosty bridge]

its only an alt but long term i guess the ring is best?

[ionic fox]

ring 100%

[frosty bridge]

since ill be able to leech myth track armor pieces anyway from farm raid

ok

cheers!

[silver escarp]

Why does raidbot not want to sim with a unique gem when i try to replace the gear that have it?

[runic hinge]

do you have it checked?

[silver escarp]

Yea

If i uncheck it i can sim. But not if it's checked

[vast onyx]

there should be a listed reason wh

[bleak spoke]

wait but

[vast onyx]

why you can't sim it

[bleak spoke]

you're literally

[bleak spoke]

i need to reread the talent tree

[vast onyx]

do you have any gems selected

[bleak spoke]

or is it just deep execute and its own amp

[silver escarp]

I have the full 12 gems selected

[vast onyx]

it says how many gems you can choose max in the section

"max 12 selections"

[silver escarp]

Wait i didn't even select 12

[earnest remnant]

thats just on the dmg amp on the boss 30 sec into the fight

[silver escarp]

selected 9

[bleak spoke]

is it interacting with uh

this

or something

[vast onyx]

have u selected any of the unique gems?

[silver escarp]

just the one i want

[bleak spoke]

i realize it might be a bit hard to tell

[vast onyx]

try unselecting it

[bleak spoke]

cuz abilities have 5% variance in dmg now

[silver escarp]

It works, but then it just remove the unique gem totally.

And i don't want that

[vast onyx]

well, you know what gem you want anyway for the unique gem

i assume its just something being fucky with the unique gem

[silver escarp]

[vast onyx]

there is check boxes as well for "always use" and "only 4+ colours"

maybe check the always use but not the 4+ colours

[silver escarp]

The fuck that works. Why

[cinder bone]

imagine not timing +9 AK with 8 min left pulling last boss cause 2300 mw cant heal it

this is why you should onyl invite rsham

[earnest remnant]

no, the boss just takes 100% increased dmg

[vast onyx]

no idea

[earnest remnant]

for 12 sec

[silver escarp]

fcking strange well let's see the results i guess

[bleak spoke]

ah

ther'es nothing weird goin on then i guess

[last oasis]

how do you shadowmeld -> stealth as sin?

[bleak spoke]

spam your stealth button

[silver escarp]

the only thing that i mouse click xD

[bleak spoke]

it won't workk in boss combat

but uh

tbh this dungeon set there's a ton it doesn't work on as well

cuz like basiclay when you meld it's not real stealth

but you can stealth if you drop combo while melded

[silver escarp]

Still drop u out of combat. But strange that sometimes it doesn't work

[bleak spoke]

meld is like infinitely worse button than vanish

[silver escarp]

Even without aoes going on

[bleak spoke]

if anything has eyes around, basically

[silver escarp]

Nah i melded in full melee and it worked

[bleak spoke]

it's really finnicky, need to practice it a little

[digital minnow]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[bleak spoke]

there's macros for it but those don't always work etc

[tawny junco]

letsgowski

[silver escarp]

that's why i always mouse click for the meld

[last oasis]

what does click meld vs pressing meld do

[bleak spoke]

if it helps you time the meld stealth better then it's good

[last oasis]

i dont quite understand the interaction

[bleak spoke]

just sounds like a play pattern kinda

[silver escarp]

Well i don't have the binding for it, never made it

[bleak spoke]

ah

i play with a tank who sometimes i wish didn't have meld bound and clicked it

[silver escarp]

Uh? Why

[bleak spoke]

well

if your tank melds

then uh

they drop threat

and unfortunately

it's quite likely that you are in melee

[last oasis]

are you able to almost instant stealth?

[silver escarp]

Ah i thought u were playing with someone else as tank

[bleak spoke]

i mean if you're not instantly killed

[last oasis]

me spamming stealth takes about ~3 seconds to get in

[bleak spoke]

stealth is a global, remmeber that

it's also 100% not 3

it just feels like forever

[silver escarp]

[bleak spoke]

you're like hammerin the button

[silver escarp]

"GO STEALTH IDIOTIC CHARACTER"

[bleak spoke]

so lets say you like press envenom or something and then meld immediately

[last oasis]

but the condition is that I can't be chaining, or that I have to let the envenom chain die first?

[bleak spoke]

oh yeah uh

you should write a macro for meld regardless

should be a stopattack one

really simple

/stopattack

[silver escarp]

Okay so unchecking 4+ on the gem sim with the unique and 4+ gems. Fcking weird.. Whatever

[bleak spoke]

/cast shadowmeld

cuz like you can be in the middle of a swing

especially nowadays

with snd + windmill arms (windmill in speed, but not in length, with the current "acrobatic strikes" 🙄 )

also like, don't press envenom and meld, if pb procs it can take you out

etcetc

[silver escarp]

Damn i miss old acrobatic strikes

[bleak spoke]

so do i 🙂

[silver escarp]

Rip

[livid thistle]

just to be clear >< do i with one stack of shiv use it before or after kingsbane?

[royal lantern]

rememeber how we said "they will probs remove range extenders and just make that range baseline"?

remember "eh, if they remove it they will adjust Things"

[royal lantern]

at the last 6seconds of KB, and then 1x outside of KB

[silver escarp]

use it when there's 7 sec of KB left

[livid thistle]

thnx!

[smoky sonnet]

I only have 606 trinkets of Waning Candle and Candlestick. Would you choose 613 Ovi'Nax Trinket in the vault? The other uprades would just be ilvl improvements on either back or neck

[grim jay]

They did adjust it. Some hitboxes arguably got worse

[silver escarp]

[royal lantern]

yes im on broodtwister prog thank you

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/Z1tBb2B.png

We decided that rogues weren't challenged enough in mists of tirna scithe, so in addition to having mistveil bite pick random people and kill them faster than ferocious bite in an awc match, we decided to recycle blue death and defile so you literally can't stand in melee while you're doing the maze.

[grim jay]

There are quite some mobs in m+ you basically gotta stand inside of even

[grim jay]

Im all for the hatetrain, but those 2 arent really that insane, one is tank issue and the other is a healer thing, just gotta have a good healer

[royal lantern]

last boss of mist

i have red-green weakness

colorblind doesnt change anything

the puddles dont even display their edges for the first 5seconds but do instant dmg

VERY FUN

🙂

[grim jay]

Dont forget some of the pools actually are invisible

Depending on where they are

Like Fr Fr invisible

[rotund oak]

there is a pool there

dont u see it?

[bleak spoke]

also

if you get jump transmitter on tredova

he sucks you in faster if you're airborne

🙂

[rotund oak]

transmitter was the best shard ive had in TWW

highly valued

helped me do that radiant crit ring enchant

[bleak spoke]

i hope for your sake they add a search bar back to item restore

don't look in tc assa

[rotund oak]

i did like twice

dont even care

[bleak spoke]

i think it's actually not bad in raid

because you know

the ground is flat

[crisp stream]

@earnest remnant is that you?

[earnest remnant]

[rotund oak]

skadryns and maybe dawnbreakers wont even bother

ye its him

[bleak spoke]

is there another 2 min trinket even

[royal lantern]

not very stealthy

[bleak spoke]

than skardyns

[royal lantern]

and no raccon

[bleak spoke]

other than like

[grim jay]

Hidden flatearther

[bleak spoke]

wrathstone

[royal lantern]

thats not stealthi

[limber oyster]

I have sac and skardyn, should take helmet (tier helmet with leech) or just take spyglass for dungeons to switch with sac?

[grim jay]

Id rather farm crystal for dungeons

[bleak spoke]

https://www.twitch.tv/dratnos/clip/IntelligentGrotesqueCougarTBCheesePull

[grim jay]

Fuck spyglass

[earnest remnant]

it indeed was me

[crisp stream]

crystal + ? for m+

[earnest remnant]

queue lfr for dmg buff

[grim jay]

Crystal and skardyns ye

Even in ST simmed highest for me

Tho

[dense cloud]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[rotund oak]

rough one soyglass is legit very strong but since u are kinda covered for m+ and its not myth track ild go for head but you should always sim

[limber oyster]

In my sims (with hero trinkets all of them) says that sac is like 500 better than spyglass, but i thought spyglass was better btw

[bleak spoke]

soyglass is crazy

[iron ivy]

Is spyglass good or should I go for the myth helm and get a heroic skardyns grace from m+?

Ah @limber oyster samesies on the question 🙂

[rotund oak]

yes myth track spyglass should be an autolock

dont ask,ill slap u

[grim jay]

Idk I hate spyglass

Mythic head is kinda good aswell

[limber oyster]

but mine is hero 😦

[rotund oak]

u crazy

[bleak spoke]

spyglass you can actually feel when it procs

the tooltip is fake btw it's just a buff on you that stacks to 5 instantly

[grim jay]

I can feel my heroic knife proccing aswell

But not in a good way

[iron ivy]

I have void reapers contract + sikrans endless arsenal as current trinkets on 619 heroic

[limber oyster]

Thanks for the help guys btw ❤️ ❤️

[bleak spoke]

what's the issue? simply don't have it proc at important moments in your rotation https://i.imgur.com/ip1RiSy.png

sometimes i'm doing completely unrelated stuff and i think about this log

[mystic osprey]

dont think its beating them

[bleak spoke]

fully upgraded and stuff i'm assumin

[grim jay]

I dont think it ever did so far tbf

Like chances are really low it happens

[bleak spoke]

it's .5 ppm it's like

it's statistically normal for it to not proc for 4+ minutes

but also statistically normal for you to have the debuff for 20 seconds out of a minute

if tha makes sense

[grim jay]

I sometimes accidently cloak the debuff on rekills

Because it certainly looks dangerous

Im concerned of my survival

[bleak spoke]

i mean it's the shadowblades icon on your debuff bar

[grim jay]

Totally not because of dps

[bleak spoke]

[grim jay]

I dont on progress tho

[soft shale]

normal was faster for me

shite 40 min ques for lfr

[bleak spoke]

if there's anything that's an indicator taht you're about to get owned, it's a debuff that has the icon of a major class cooldown on your debuff bar

[grim jay]

So true. Like queue + fights even take longer on lfr

[grim jay]

[earnest remnant]

got queue after 4min

[runic hinge]

tank rogue

[grim jay]

He just sneaked in

[earnest remnant]

im also "working" atm

aka im pretending im working

[grim jay]

Raccoons dont need invites

They just appear

[grim jay]

Relatable

[soft shale]

damn 4 mins

that is the dream

[rotund oak]

kinda always the case in the morning

morning btw

[potent barn]

Now this is a hard choice

[earnest remnant]

im technically speaking in a meeting

im just not really listening

[subtle tundra]

where is the hard choice

[ornate raptor]

Watching this every week , seeing people get bis trinkets in vault makes me wanna cry about my vault 😂

[subtle tundra]

it is always skardyn

[mystic osprey]

sim

[subtle tundra]

you dont sim

you pick skardyn

[mystic osprey]

wings of shattered sorrow and the neck are all rare as fuck

[rotund oak]

yeah bro,very hard to lock myth track skadryns,the one BIS trinket u might never see again vs a neck u will most likely farm with ur guild

[ripe agate]

if you key a lot wings if not skardyn

[subtle tundra]

you might go for the rest of the season without seeing the trinket

[grim jay]

Easy choice ngl

[potent barn]

don't need to be passive agressive 😄

[grim jay]

If you dont pick skardyn its kinda trolling

[subtle tundra]

its not passive aggressive, its just sarcastic

lol

[mystic osprey]

huh

[rotund oak]

sorry for being like that but its obv 😅

u dont even think

u lock skadryns

period

[bleak spoke]

yeh

[rotund oak]

idk,am i the only crazy here thinking of ppl doing 50-60 GBs to get the hc version which they have to upgrade

[deft stump]

Is mandate good for m+?

[rotund oak]

not rly

but u should sim

[deft stump]

I see tyty

[rotund oak]

you are welcome friend

[safe ore]

Which is preferred, Spyglass or Sacbrood? I've been using Spyglass for a while, but I swear, it procs so infrequently. Been thinking of going back to Sacbrood

[mystic osprey]

sim it

hehe

[sullen mural]

I mean yeah

what that guy said

[safe ore]

Sacbrood doesn't sim right

[mystic osprey]

probably spyglass

what level is it compared to sac

[safe ore]

Both the same. Both 616

[sullen mural]

most ppl using sac on st afaik

[viral moat]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rotund oak]

sac is supposed to shine in m+ though

[sullen mural]

Idk sac gets outsimmed by champ track ritual knife for me

on st and slice

[rotund oak]

because it sucks 😅

its 3 trinkets boys

skadryns,spyglass and crystal from dawnbreaker

for everything

[safe ore]

Sacbrood never seems to sim right anyway, so I don't really trust it

[sullen mural]

You do you

[mystic osprey]

yep

[uneven summit]

i´d argue that im at 39 grim runs thus far, and still havent even seen skardyns drop, so i´d say it´s pretty rare 😂

[mystic osprey]

eyeglass is better for sin

[royal lantern]

yeha, dont spreed missinformation pls

[mystic osprey]

hehe

thats cause youre trying to get it bro

jus tgotta go for other gear

youll get it first try

[uneven summit]

aint that the truth

[rotund oak]

sacrifices for the future

[uneven summit]

dead-eye in vault, just got it last week

that´s teh way it works

[safe ore]

Queue with people who want the same gear, but more than you do. You'll get it

[grim jay]

Any evidence or are we feelycrafting rn?

[safe ore]

Just a joke lol. Anyone who reaaally wants somethnig never gets it, it's always the other guy

[grim jay]

?

[royal lantern]

the last 20comments are all "trust me bro" lol

[grim jay]

Im talking about the sac doesnt sim right stuff

[safe ore]

I got this in Vault, and then again in weekly chest a few hours later 🙃

[sullen mural]

thats why u do quest before u pick vault

[grim jay]

Kinda meh, especially yellows lately

[mystic osprey]

?

[uneven summit]

xD

[grim jay]

Better for sin than what?

[safe ore]

Ohh. Just from what I've read around, things that were supposed to be worse than sac were simming much, much higher

[celest ruin]

if you take 2/2 vv is it worth using ctw on 2t?

[mystic osprey]

sac

even if sac is good

[grim jay]

Objectively false, its a profile thing

[uneven summit]

how´s ovi´nax in dungeons btw, we´d still want dead-eye+skardyns no?

[mystic osprey]

just what wowhead says

and I trust it because whispyr writes it

[sullen mural]

I mean just farm/use whats simming highest for you

all these trinkets are like

[royal lantern]

ovi trinket is bad

[sullen mural]

• • 2k dmg if even

[uneven summit]

simbait?

[royal lantern]

no, just bad

[uneven summit]

aight

[grim jay]

The wowhead list is an idea and Whispyr also says all day that people need to sim themself and the 3 trinkets are really close

[earnest remnant]

just like me frfr

[sullen mural]

Is casual still doing his double onuse cooking or

[mystic osprey]

said that before but apparently it doesnt "sim right"

[grim jay]

Profile thing aswell, obviously trinkets that give stats can be better or worse depending on what you have. There is no indicator for it simming wrong whatsoever

[dense cloud]

myth track kukuri or myth sac? (i got a 623 hero offhand and 636 main, and these 2 trinks. skard is myth and knife is champ ). sim says change knife with sac but i dont wanna leave a myth track weap in the vault

[earnest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-bitch-gif-19645544

[bleak spoke]

has he been doin it too

[grim jay]

Yeah with a trust me bro source

[mystic osprey]

YEP

[mystic osprey]

caps

[turbid ridge]

Are there stat breakpoints for crit and mastery? Like what percentage do you want crit and mastery to be at? My crit is lke 20% and mastery is at 45%

[bleak spoke]

oh nyo

[sullen mural]

no

Just sim and use what robot says to equip

[spice surge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[bleak spoke]

the breakpoint for crit is 100% it won't give you more value on assasination past that point (though it might on some other specs)

🙂

[grim jay]

Its only 3 ilvl for weapon and you probably do the mythic Boss some more weeks no?

[turbid ridge]

Okay, thanks!

[bleak spoke]

(fire, havoc destro etc)

[dense cloud]

yeah true.

[sullen mural]

aint even upgrading that shit yet

[grim jay]

Also there are more mythic track weapons than good trinkets aswell

[grim jay]

Why tho

[sullen mural]

Cuz crests somewhere else more value

judging by robot

[grim jay]

Easiest 15 crest increase in your life

Id guess

Since you only need 15 for it to be 639

[steel ridge]

wdym, i upped it to 639

[grim jay]

If you got a crafted

[serene solar]

He would have to already have 2

[grim jay]

No

[sullen mural]

U need 2

[grim jay]

1 crafted

[sullen mural]

for free upgrade

[grim jay]

1 crafted

And recraft

[subtle tundra]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[serene solar]

636 doesn’t qualify you for free upgrades

[grim jay]

With a recraft it does

[steel ridge]

[serene solar]

Oh that’s that thing people were talking about haha

I know what ima do tomorrow

[sullen mural]

Just recraft with exact same shit and I get free 639 weapon?

Im down

[serene solar]

No

[bleak spoke]

potential vacation from azeroth didn't seem worth at the tiem tbh

[serene solar]

Shh

[bleak spoke]

[serene solar]

It doesn’t exist

[grim jay]

Yeah you just recraft it with a different embellishment or missive

And its fine

[grim jay]

Wdym? You just wanted to change the stats

Or the embell

[bleak spoke]

good point

[sullen mural]

and then i inst achange it back

[subtle tundra]

theres a 0 chance it gets punished

[bleak spoke]

well 0 now

but like two or so weeks ago when it was news

[royal lantern]

found the insider that is collecting names

[subtle tundra]

i did it 2 weeks ago with 0 thought

intentionally

[grim jay]

I actually had to recraft stats

[subtle tundra]

there is no way it gets punished

[grim jay]

[subtle tundra]

way way way way too many false positives

[grim jay]

Ye

[steel ridge]

yes you could just change embellishment

[frosty bridge]

wait so whats the trick?

[steel ridge]

like for real

[grim jay]

Especially with the Ascension to thread swappers

[frosty bridge]

just recraft dagger?

[subtle tundra]

so yea abuse it

[bleak spoke]

idk my guild had a bunch of 4 day vacations on heroic week already didn't want to chance it

[subtle tundra]

abusing renown and doing a recraft is very different things

[grim jay]

With different missive or embellishment

[bleak spoke]

like it wasn't even that we have some true degens

[frosty bridge]

gotcha

[bleak spoke]

just checkin their chars

[frosty bridge]

well i know what im doing today

[bleak spoke]

legit

[sullen mural]

Im for sure NOT double recrafting my dagger

right as we speak

[grim jay]

Gotta relog afterwards tho

[bleak spoke]

[subtle tundra]

so did we, 2-3 people had 23 renown or smth in hc week

[frosty bridge]

after recrafting?

[subtle tundra]

no bans

[oak tangle]

don't even have a mythic weapon, trick is useless for me

[frosty bridge]

i assume i recraft, equip in offhand, log out?

[grim jay]

Ye, just recraft, equip and relog

[bleak spoke]

btw if you put the same enchant on your daggers, you should make a gearset with both of them, and then unequip both of them and requip with the gearset

it can bug the same way dawnthread does

but unlike dawnthread can't fix by goin under 80% hp

^that's the fix

equipping both at once, that is

[manic pebble]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[sly blade]

Do the number of catalyst charges you can have total reset each season, or is the limit for the whole expansion?

[spice surge]

The charges reset whenever a new season comes out

[sly blade]

Thank you!

[rotund oak]

thats to avoid getting the gilded crest upgrade cost?

[sharp viper]

yes

saves 75 gilded crests

up to*

[thin portal]

guys

sin have it so easy

I didnt even know rotation and hit such amazing numbers

outlaw is hitting rotation and only 500k

waaaaa

[rotund oak]

outlaws crying to this channel is real

[thin portal]

I just wanted to clarify

xD

[rotund oak]

to clarify waht

[serene solar]

If you do outlaw rotation correctly it is not that bad lol

[rotund oak]

crazy ppl

[thin portal]

that outlaw has been nerfed and sin does less apm for more dmg

😦

[royal lantern]

outlaw hasnt been nerfed

like

[rotund oak]

[thin portal]

I cant play sin tho

I get bored

[royal lantern]

thinking that is legit brainrot lol

[bleak spoke]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6XYG9DgrJim2mHzVH37NE4 THANK GOD

[primal jolt]

reading this sends shivers down my spine

[thin portal]

xD

[bleak spoke]

no double on us

[thin portal]

hahahah

[bleak spoke]

e

it's all within 0.5% on single too

thank god

aofoosjfdoij

[primal jolt]

there's too many outlaw rogues in this channel im feeling uncomfortable

[bleak spoke]

all my homies would hate transmitter if they could find the transmitter orb

[royal lantern]

FotM monkeys

[strange python]

and can get you banned

[rotund oak]

its getting annoying they got L takes

[primal jolt]

is rogue even good? i literally don't remember the last time i checked class performances?

[fast mural]

Can anyone explain the recraft thingy for free crests?

[thin portal]

I was wondering why sin dmg was so high just upkeeping bleeds lol

[primal jolt]

if you think sin is easier than outlaw you're delusional

[royal lantern]

assa good in m+ and mid in raid, outlaw kinda mid everywhere, sub bad in m+ and mid-bad in raid (with the exception of 1-2 fight patterns bering good for it)

[thin portal]

I think sub is the hardest to learn.

[primal jolt]

its ok our friend sub is always bad <3 but i still love him

[thin portal]

then Outlaw, sin last.

[strange python]

you recraft your main hand 636 dagger to w/e equip it in offhand

[royal lantern]

it isnt? bleeds themself aint doing shit lol

[primal jolt]

how is the word outlaw and hard in the same sentence even?

[heavy canopy]

Is tier Chest or tier Head better? All BiS lists put all five tier pieces, which is understandable, but surely chest is the worst of them?

[primal jolt]

you got like 3 buttons

[royal lantern]

outside of CT, this is the weakest bleeds have ever been

[grim jay]

Imagine thinking higher apm is higher difficulty and either warrants higher dps, thats just lost af. Even the highest apm spec has less apm than our 80 years old school secretary lady had back then

[bleak spoke]

there's a nonzero chance both specs are being played incorrectly in this case

[grim jay]

[steel ridge]

outlaw does more damage than sin if you are really really good.

[fast mural]

thanks @strange python

[primal jolt]

are we having a gray parse convection wtf is this?

[strange python]

You recraft back after u login put in MH and whola you can upgrade offhand dagger whichever u had to same ilvl as crafted in MH 636 but that CAN GET YOU BANNED

[bleak spoke]

not to be rude or something

[thin portal]

[bleak spoke]

but i imagine that if you play sin incorrectly but manage to maintain bleeds

it would probably do more dmg than like

[primal jolt]

its very easy to play sin incorrectly

[bleak spoke]

if you full spaghet an outlaw rotation

idk

[thin portal]

i wish apm was rewarded with more dmg

[bleak spoke]

i don't

[thin portal]

[steel ridge]

its easier to fuck up outlaw yes

[primal jolt]

i cant stay here anymore im getting brainrot

[steel ridge]

its easier to perform close to max as sin

[rotund oak]

bro doesnt understand rogue in general,speaks of sin - outlaw comparison coz feelings too strong

[thin portal]

what class do you play

[royal lantern]

then play tanks

should be #1 dps according to that

[steel ridge]

look at the statistics, look at the sims... outlaw sims 1.6million in bis gear

200k above sin

if you cannot do more damage, its a skill issue.

[grim jay]

Cant be, ignore all facts. Outlaw highest apm

[primal jolt]

sin

[bleak spoke]

instead of apm being rewarded i want high dpm to be rewarded, decisions per minute, that is

[primal jolt]

since wrath sin rogue

[heavy canopy]

What're you picking here and why?

[thin portal]

yeah im just getting back still need to perfect rotation for both

[empty hinge]

Just sim yourself

[thin portal]

I still like outlaw better

[primal jolt]

im not very good sin tbh i usually parse just around 90

[rotund oak]

sim urself friend

[grim jay]

#outlaw you are welcome

[royal lantern]

humblebragging is disgusting btw

[orchid cedar]

it's me or rogue tier set colors are missplaced?

[royal lantern]

[primal jolt]

never parsed higher than 92 i think

[steel ridge]

90 in hc or mythic? cause 90 in mythic pretty good.

[orchid cedar]

shoudn't the black one be the mythic one?

[primal jolt]

hc

[heavy canopy]

Sim'ing is only good for the now, I'd rather not pick something that'll be replaced by a better piece later...

[thin portal]

does sin still need to pool or just go ham?

[primal jolt]

everyone can parse 90 if i can

[bleak spoke]

life is about perspective i guess

[grim jay]

Me no very good sin, I only have 99 average on normal and heroic, 96 on mythic

[bleak spoke]

cuz i look at my logs and i'm like i'm fully fucking washed

LOL

[thin portal]

[rotund oak]

everything is myth track list,so tier pieces wont be replaced if u want to narrow ur choices down.In a vacuum we dont want chest on sin so maybe head i guess

[bleak spoke]

and it's okay for me to be washed, cuz me retired

[delicate egret]

So like, am I doing something wrong or is our boss damage in dungeons just kinda bad?
Like on packs I do great, but on bosses I am markedly below the other 2 DPS, usually

[heavy canopy]

But only four of five tier pieces should be equipped, and I'd say chest is the worst of them, right?

[grim jay]

Ive heard ladies like you better if you are washed

Bcs odor

[pliant remnant]

[glacial crypt]

no shot the 4th rogue gets this, stupid rat char

[rotund oak]

yeah

[bleak spoke]

don't you mean your main rogue 🙂

[heavy canopy]

Head it is then 😄 Thank you.

[thin portal]

guys srs question, how often do you pool as sin right now?

[primal jolt]

like i probably see this wrong but in my eyes 98 99 is good, 100 is best

[pliant remnant]

[glacial crypt]

it's time to catchup in ilvl

[royal lantern]

"everyone can be better then 90% of player on that spec in this fight" literally makes no sense mate

[glacial crypt]

[rotund oak]

u r welcome friend ,have a nice day 🙂

[pliant remnant]

[bleak spoke]

idk like, if i have a rank 1, and i have rotation mistakes when i review the log, i'm not necessary satisfied

ther'es a lot of factors etc

[primal jolt]

i believe that parses are ruined by too many causals spamming buttons that's all

[bleak spoke]

kill time etc, crits, etc, that could have put me ahead of someone

so it's like

[royal lantern]

that has no influence on parses above 20 wdym

[rotund oak]

my mage has higher ilvl and better gear in geneal than my rogue if that means anything.. (but 4rth rogue? )

[primal jolt]

i dont feel satisfaction seeing a purple parse imo

[royal lantern]

just cus LFR johny died 20sec in a pull, does t mean that in the top10% you have the best guys that you need to beat to get higher

[primal jolt]

maybe im just too competitive about it

[thin portal]

I tried sin today because I got like 12 mastery gears lol

[bleak spoke]

i have a theory kinda, that if you're wearing like ~hc gear, and you press all your cooldown sets in a fight, and you don't make any egregious mistakes that go against the nature of the spec you're playing, it's like high purple on literally every spec in the game

[glacial crypt]

there are 6 little demons of mine

i have an army

[bleak spoke]

and they're all really cute

[rotund oak]

bruh u crazy

[glacial crypt]

:3

one of them is playing dressup

[bleak spoke]

uwu

[shy pecan]

Koodle

[royal lantern]

ye cus your logic is kinda stupid

"only 98+ is better, 100is really good" like bruh

"only if you did more dmg then 98% of your Specs playerbase in that fight you are good, and only if you are literally the #1 you are very good" is some league of legends level brainrot

[primal jolt]

its true i used to play it

[royal lantern]

and thats ignoring stuff like externals

[primal jolt]

you got me

[royal lantern]

and killtimers (which is the #1 thing for parses)

and padding ofc

[rotund oak]

aint no way thats glorious tyranny

[royal lantern]

like, parses are overall a meme statistic cus they dont tell much

[primal jolt]

idk my guild has a bunch of 99 parses ret paladins and evokers

[glacial crypt]

i don't UNDERSTAND

[primal jolt]

until i can compete

im irelevant

[rotund oak]

wpn enchant/illusion

[glacial crypt]

its whatever one looked pretty on the edge of night

Sinwrath

[bleak spoke]

that's the venthyr cov one

i like it alot

[glacial crypt]

it's freaking sick

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/tumblr-tumblr-anon-theodd1sout-theodd1sout-tumblr-theodd1sout-anon-gif-15368460227874113321

[glacial crypt]

it matches the rose colour

[rotund oak]

my heartbeat is restored,ty

[primal jolt]

besides the only reason why i push myself so much is because the entire dps group does nothing but trash talk the lower dps ones, ina. competitive way that is

[keen spruce]

do more dmg

[primal jolt]

always trying to get better parses is the only reason i play

[keen spruce]

[primal jolt]

i cant without pocket pi and aug

[bleak spoke]

i think parsing well is downstream of like

[glacial crypt]

you definitely can

[bleak spoke]

playing well

[glacial crypt]

Parses don't matter

[keen spruce]

then what is the issue here

[primal jolt]

im addicted to parses

[glacial crypt]

killing the bosses matters and you doing more damage isn't always going to mean the boss dies

[keen spruce]

then hire a pocket priest and a lizard

[glacial crypt]

if you sac a mechanic for your damage ur just a detriment

[keen spruce]

and go on a parse run

if u wanna parse go parse

if u wanna kill bosses kill bosses

[primal jolt]

both is good

[keen spruce]

not really

if you're actually chasing 99 parses you're probably griefing your raid

[glacial crypt]

What kind of level are you playing at if you don't mind me asking?

[primal jolt]

mythic raiding

[keen spruce]

then you're definitely griefing

[primal jolt]

but i never actually kill the last boss

[steel ridge]

theres mythic raiding and mythic raiding

[primal jolt]

most i get to is like 6-7 bosses

[keen spruce]

I mean if you reclear every week ig

[steel ridge]

theres 6/9 amirdrassil mythic raiding and 9/9 amirdrassil mythic raiding

[keen spruce]

early bosses you can act like a monkey

[glacial crypt]

don't make fun of him we all have a reason to play 😭

[keen spruce]

but like

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/CANAyRH.png let's play a game, i want you to tell me who got PI in our nexus princess HC splits yesterday

[keen spruce]

if you actualy want to progress

then you should stop trying to parse

and just do your job

[royal lantern]

thats literally the most pointless thing in this game lol

[keen spruce]

I mean i'm also addicted to parse

[primal jolt]

its fun to compete with my friends

[subtle tundra]

if you care about PIs youre a certified loser

[zenith cedar]

is the patch gonna be good for us

[royal lantern]

every halfway decent guild doesnt look at parses only

[primal jolt]

its not pointless its fun

[bleak spoke]

there's a point here

[agile geode]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[keen spruce]

parse very fun

but killing bosses more fun

[steel ridge]

its a team game, you want to reach a goal that doesnt include griefing your raid

[frosty bridge]

Shad 🐐

[primal jolt]

me and friends are competing who has a bigger dick, parses are good for it, that's all

[zenith cedar]

parses are BIS -- i R1 parse 15 years ago and people stll recognize

[keen spruce]

I played infinitely better on this kill than any other that season

[royal lantern]

like, if somebody is constantly in the 40- area, ye sure they Probs do something wrong

but nobody that is worth their shit looks at somebody with full orange and goes OMG SO GOOD

they click the kill, see Pi+pocket aug and call it a day

[glacial crypt]

being able to show up to raid fully prepared and not make mistakes is a way to compete which will kill you more bosses^^

[safe patrol]

kinda want the feet since got skardyns and empowering crystal on myth track alrdy. thoughts?

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/Jr2Ad4A.png no, actually it was literally who our priest was healing the moment he pressed PI

[zenith cedar]

considering part of doing damage is playing well -- i dont think this checks out

[steel ridge]

without CE your dicksize doesnt matter

[bleak spoke]

PI literally doesn't matter

just play good

LOL

[primal jolt]

[keen spruce]

I ran 2 bombs

[frosty bridge]

Wtf insane tech

[bleak spoke]

@subtle tundra see the point i'm trying to make now

[glacial crypt]

im invested but need to go university frick

[grim jay]

Objectively wrong tho. People can willingly raid in a worse guild than they could and only get 8/9 or something. Also its Actually harder to parse in worse guilds

[zenith cedar]

i mean -- there is something very wrong if youi are parsing blues with good gear. My rogue is putting up purple parses at 610 ilvl

[glacial crypt]

aurevoir or something

[prisma tundra]

so what ur telling me is i need to stand in as much damage as possible so he is always healing me?

[royal lantern]

i was 3x downwards realm on KT during sanctum, that means holding CDs for years

ofc the parse was a 3

are you telling me now that i played bad by doing the main mechanic of the Fight instead of staying upwards and spamming FoK for high dmg number?

[steel ridge]

edgecase evidence

[primal jolt]

i think our guild mainly doesn't perform further because of the weak minded players tbh

[bleak spoke]

be in the priest's group tbh

[earnest remnant]

MAH PARSE

[primal jolt]

although idm staying at 6/9

mythic

[keen spruce]

stealthi feels attacked

[zenith cedar]

There will obviously be edge cases or people who have to do the grunt work on a boss, I don't think that is really relevant to the discussion

[keen spruce]

that's not an edge case

[bleak spoke]

i think ur parse is plenty big bb

[keen spruce]

that's being a good raider that trusted enough to do assignments

[grim jay]

We are edgy rogues, are we edgecases aswell?

[earnest remnant]

just do both at the same time?

[zenith cedar]

Nobody is saying "bad parse = bad player" I dont think? But consistently bad parse across every boss == probably not so good player, no?

[keen spruce]

you think that you RL is going to assign jobs to a parse monkey that can't tie his own shoes when given a job?

[royal lantern]

nobody plays fatebound

no edgecase

[steel ridge]

the edgy rogues are down in the sub channel

[keen spruce]

no one is disputing that

or claiming the opposite

[bleak spoke]

okay it's way too late at night ia ctually laughed ffs

[primal jolt]

fatebound is bis

[steel ridge]

i tried it in boostraid for court and it sucked or i sucked

[primal jolt]

best rogue hero talent

[earnest remnant]

my parses are aite

[normal mist]

My gf checked my vault while I'm at work, and this is all she had to say:
Fuck you i hate giving you good loot (she didn't even show me the full vault)

[royal lantern]

just flip better

peak "hero" talent

[keen spruce]

yall kill bosses in like 14 seconds

[bleak spoke]

i think there's like, layers to that right, there's like, being able to do well despite being assigned stuff is kind of what you aim for i think

[steel ridge]

still cute tho

[earnest remnant]

and im by no means an over the top amazing player

[grim jay]

You are the edgecase if I were to say I could never love a man

[primal jolt]

you're top in my heart

[grim jay]

[bleak spoke]

why are you literally lying

[earnest remnant]

i just press 1-2-3 in mostly the correct order

[shy pecan]

Sure, okay buddy

[bleak spoke]

ur the best

[royal lantern]

my brother in christ, you beat almost everyone here except a handfull of people lol

[bleak spoke]

and the cutest

[subtle lava]

how can 10 ilvl increase in leg slot be 0.1% more dps than 10 ilvl increase in weapon slot. Do i take legs then?

[royal lantern]

offhand?

[grim jay]

Maybe offhand weapon? Those suck

[normal mist]

Oh

[rotund oak]

buy her something yummy to eat,she deserves it 👌

[grim jay]

Dont ignore my rizz

[subtle lava]

I mean i have crafted 636

[bleak spoke]

obviously the blade is for windwalkers it says so right there

[normal mist]

I got her pizza yesterday, cheese and ham

[subtle lava]

and 626 in offhand

[keen spruce]

[earnest remnant]

my prog parses arent that pretty

[steel ridge]

average racoon performance

[royal lantern]

[primal jolt]

bruh I remember in df always parsing 30 on experiments, it was so annoying couldn't figure out why

[shy pecan]

But you are

[grim jay]

What happened on ovinax and princess fam

[bleak spoke]

those aren't prog parses your prog parses are either 100 66 33 or 0

[keen spruce]

it's cuz you were playin fatebound

[rotund oak]

leggo progress logs,not that pretty yeah

[earnest remnant]

the princess was rank 6

[primal jolt]

in df?

[earnest remnant]

not my fault nobody has killed it

[primal jolt]

ok buddy kekw

[grim jay]

I only see purple

[bleak spoke]

[grim jay]

No ranks

[keen spruce]

that's the joke

[bleak spoke]

i think one of the funniest logs is the uh

the nexus princess with loktark's guild

where him and the other rogue both played outlaw

and they were the only 2 outlaw rogues to kill it

[primal jolt]

is it possible to parse 0?

[bleak spoke]

so lok had a 100 and the other one had a 0

[primal jolt]

or is 1 the lowest

[bleak spoke]

[earnest remnant]

you didn't even take the one with full 100s

[serene solar]

Yes I’ve seen it

[earnest remnant]

smh

[keen spruce]

i didn't look that hard

and i remember watching u guys do assault

[serene solar]

I saw someone parse a 0 in mythic abberus and they didn’t die the whole fight. How awful it must feel to do less damage than people who died

[keen spruce]

and being angy

[earnest remnant]

honestly tho the most impressive part is me keeping a bunch of them

[torn swan]

Hey guys, I would like your thoughts about the Mad Queen's Mandate compared to SKardyn/Spyglass... Looks strong indeed, but is it really worth using?

[keen spruce]

I only kept my Heroic Zskarn

[earnest remnant]

people on the internet called for us to get banned for our Aug tech

[keen spruce]

cuz I was blessed by the sophic gods

[bleak spoke]

i mean i guess they were afk and someone kekpt them alive?

[keen spruce]

it made it through all of .5

and .7

[earnest remnant]

just because we did a lil Augmentation evoker warlock summon tech

people got madge

calling us exploiters

[keen spruce]

creative use of game mechanics

[earnest remnant]

not actualy knowing what we did xD

[keen spruce]

[primal jolt]

[earnest remnant]

we even made a WA for it

[serene solar]

No… they were trying. He just really had no idea what he was doing on warrior.

I wonder if I could find the log

I watched the replay just to make sure

[keen spruce]

wait I got my zskarn before Aug came out

[bleak spoke]

that type of thing always confuses me yeah, it's like, tbh is it really that hard to read a guide and then comb through an apl for like 3 minutes

[keen spruce]

Parsing high means you're a good player

[serene solar]

I’m pretty sure with no knowledge of warrior and me jumping on their account I could slam random keys and parse at least a 1 lol

[bleak spoke]

i mean like just hit what lights up

[serene solar]

Exactly lol

[grim tree]

i have skardyn and egg ara kara waht reacomendation capa mito or cape hc or another trinket

[mystic osprey]

dont know but uncap flurry

[earnest remnant]

this was my rank 1 overall rogues on magmorax

[keen spruce]

I mean 0 is gonna be tied by all of the buyers that jump off when the fight starts

[earnest remnant]

all of my call procs

was during dances

[mystic osprey]

is skardyn myth track?

[keen spruce]

holy

[keen spruce]

[mystic osprey]

if not depends on your luck lol

[grim tree]

y

[mystic osprey]

because you cant get a myth track skardyns normally

[bleak spoke]

shiftingsands.com/augmenow

[zenith cedar]

the wep enchant proc hehehe

[rotund oak]

spyglass or 2nd raid slot,think its wings

[earnest remnant]

the augs got schooled

[bleak spoke]

seeing this actually reminds me of how like, disappointing the class call trinkets were

they were all so boring

i expected something along the lines of uh

[frosty bridge]

holy thanos vault

[bleak spoke]

like it was before my time like, the ones from wod

where they affected spec abilities

etc

[rotund oak]

why do u have 4 augs

what the

[bleak spoke]

there's more than 4 in the picture

than the*

i'm assuming

[rotund oak]

?

[earnest remnant]

4 of them used to stacks

[rotund oak]

ah ye

[bleak spoke]

is why there was a warlock tech

[rotund oak]

crazy

[earnest remnant]

nah it was 4

[bleak spoke]

or maybe the same four

[earnest remnant]

4 was the max

[bleak spoke]

but correctly applied

[earnest remnant]

the whole summon tech we did on assault

[bleak spoke]

i imagine

[earnest remnant]

was to force 4x4 buffs

on the same people

[bleak spoke]

yeh

that's what i figured was going to be the case

[rotund oak]

some mad tech

[earnest remnant]

thats details on our assault kill

[bleak spoke]

tbh in hindsight it's completely logical, though they did have to figure out the details in a granular manner

it's impressive to me, but i'm

[bleak spoke]

funny thing, i imagine that the haste (power infusion) didn't love you back

in this pull at least

[earnest remnant]

you can see them here starting to spread out

[bleak spoke]

actually, kind of curious, do you like externals

[earnest remnant]

100+ yards away from us

[bleak spoke]

in the game

[earnest remnant]

eh i dont care about em

[bleak spoke]

like outside of it being fun to do stuff like this

i've always been kinda indifferent but like, what i don't like are the arguments about them i guess

even when the reason isn't like "muh parse" but like people legitimately disagreeing on value etc

[pine zephyr]

Are Ara-kara and Skardyn's Grace together solid choices for m+? Or should i replace them?

[grim tree]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[uneven summit]

Do we have any presumed talenttree for 11.0.5?

[grim jay]

Solid, but its a sim yourself angle

[pine zephyr]

Dungeon slice then right?

[grim jay]

Yes

[pine zephyr]

Thanks

[quartz osprey]

man kb is so satisfying on mists 1st boss

hit a 36m one new record for me

[rotund marsh]

what brann setup do you guys like? this is what i run. pretty decent buffs

[grim jay]

Thats afaik the best one

[bleak spoke]

this is gonna sound completely cooked

but i run the one that makes him die fast

so he doesn't pull mobs for fun

[steel ridge]

the 10m envenoms hit different

[slender tangle]

what are some wa's everyone is using something simple i hate these ones with all kinda useless stuff they add

[coarse summit]

not bad

[hollow dirge]

good way of saying fuck you to all of us who are hated by rng gods 😄

[coarse summit]

idk people should just roll better and get better vaults

its that easy

[sullen mural]

Agreed

[keen furnace]

i also have a hero track sacbrood swapout, any need for this trink or just take myth track tier

[drifting cedar]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[lusty narwhal]

Lol snagged this from the weekly heroic cache

there goes my luck

[frosty shard]

are we getting a full spark this week or a charge of catalyst ?

[lusty narwhal]

cata next week

[frosty shard]

so full spark or half ?

[lusty narwhal]

you always get half a spark at a time

im pretty sure

[frosty shard]

cant remember if its a fragment this week or if we get a 2d frag to make a craft

[quartz lance]

With how shit my vaults are and not getting a myth dagger im contemplating crafting the ascendance one in 636 but I’d have to change all my gear around. Is it still untouched or was it nerfed?

[blazing pumice]

what

the dagger is good

should have been one of your first crafts

[quartz lance]

I had good luck with HC daggers so I prioritized dawnthread instead

Good luck as in I got both daggers week 1

And had significantly worse other pieces

[warm vortex]

Hello rogues how are we this morning

[serene girder]

Im just getting an rouge up as an alt, is it worth craftin 2 636 daggers

[solar wyvern]

Just 1 as a mainhand with ascendance

[serene girder]

Okey

[solar wyvern]

Wrist/belt with patch as your other craft

Unless you're only m+, then dawnthread op

[mystic osprey]

yo what do you change in talent tree to get crimson tempest from st hybrid build

[serene girder]

Okey, ill just do m+ pretty much on this

[solar wyvern]

Ah then dagger if you need a dagger, and dawnthread x2 is optimal

But they're pretty close in value so whatever is manageable for you

[serene girder]

Dawnthread and acension is close?

[solar wyvern]

Offhand is low value so don't craft 2 dagger.

[serene girder]

Okey thanks!

[solar wyvern]

!fuu

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[royal lantern]

neglecatble difference

ascension slightly better in raid, thread slightly better in m+

[solar wyvern]

^

[royal lantern]

but we talk about differences in the 0,1%-0,3% range here

like

its nothing

[serene girder]

Okey thanks!

[warm vortex]

Woke up too late to check vault before u I

*uni

[humble cypress]

!wa

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[worthy surge]

Treacherous Transmitter any good since i cant get the grim batol trinket ?

[royal lantern]

yes

[worthy surge]

kk cheers

im using that and mad queens in raid should be good

[hallow ridge]

man my vault is hard

I need some elder wisdom

everything is from hero track to mythic track

[median mango]

Yo guys if my sim tells me this is my best combination on trinket, how exactly would it want me to use them? Use mandate with kingsmark and send skardyns on cd? Feels so weird that that sims higher than the other way round, am I missing something?

[blazing pumice]

probably helm

idk

depends if yu raid or not

[hallow ridge]

no raid

[blazing pumice]

i don't think you run tier helm with non-raid build

[quartz cloak]

sim both in dungeon slice

[blazing pumice]

i mean there's no point simming, the helm will be substantially bigger

[quartz cloak]

well then

[hallow ridge]

but then I have to add 2 sockets and convert head to setpiece and upgrade them fully and then im out of sim tokens :O(

[blazing pumice]

as i said, non-raider you use tier chest

[mystic osprey]

sim should tell you

run quick sim it will show you

[median mango]

oh obv 🤦‍♂️

[spice surge]

You'd want to use the stat increase with dm and the non-stat outside dm

[median mango]

Yeah thats what I figured, but its a minor increase to do it the other way around. Maybe I fucked something with my setup, I'll run a few quick sims and maybe check back in later 😄

[smoky sequoia]

you send mandate on cd outside of cooldowns, skardyn with deathmark

[median mango]

yeah thats what I thought. 😄 But sims tell me otherwise

[fading stump]

if i have 2 dagger 639 i go whit 2 crit emb?

[subtle tundra]

have you simmed both choices?

trinket 1 is used first in sims, then trinket 2

you have to swap them around yourself and compare

[median mango]

Yes, was debating what to combine with top gear and queens first was suggested as minor increase over skardyns first. But the more sims I run the more I think it might be just computational error from doing it once and rounding

[worldly sail]

any egg enjoyers in the chat? 🙂

[oak eagle]

whats our off tier piece?

[blazing pumice]

chest raid, helm m+

stats are kind of flat though, doesn't make a huge dif

[oak eagle]

W thanks boys

[real pike]

is a hero > mythic tier piece always better than a socket or would you guys sim?

[subtle tundra]

you have to understand how sims work
mandate has a lot more value at the end of the fight, so in some of the sims it misses a cast at the end cause it has variable fight timers

[gritty sundial]

Does anyone know the fastest way to farm valorstones?

[blazing pumice]

@real pike sockets are legit worthless this expac

[subtle tundra]

they are legit not worthless fym

?!?

[worldly sail]

:ICANT:

[blazing pumice]

you have like 3 pieces you need to socket

[real pike]

I think specific mythic slots are harder to come by than sockets tho so taking the upgrade to myth track is always better

[minor charm]

you can buy them so they are only worth the gold you save

[blazing pumice]

rather than 5

[subtle tundra]

no you cant

you have 3 slots you cant

[minor charm]

get better drops idk

[subtle tundra]

yea youre stupid idk

[oak eagle]

you can only socket jewlery, so necks and rings, you still have to socket head bracers belt from the vault coins

[novel star]

🔥

[worldly sail]

just get the drops with sockets in them already? ☺️

simple as

[gritty sundial]

Does anyone know the fastest way to farm valorstones please?

[blazing pumice]

radiant echoes if you got em

[gritty sundial]

Thanks, I forgot about that

[trail scarab]

how come rogue isnt wanted

[subtle tundra]

cause people are stupid

[real pike]

cap out on all your crests and run m+ for no reason even though you don't really like them because you're a hopeless moron

at least that's how I do it

[royal lantern]

not a ultra giga meta class

can actually die and is not immortal like dk/mage

no Cr, no BL

[trail scarab]

i guess

always felt super tanky but i tried a 12 key yesterday and that was a bit of a reality check

[subtle tundra]

yep!

feint with elusiveness or death

[real pike]

upgrading mythic track gear is pretty much always a better use of gilded crests than crafting right?

[blazing pumice]

depends on the piece

[real pike]

I have everything at 619 or above

[grim jay]

Bro my mage

610 ilvl