#assassination

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quiet oar
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?

spice surge
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I think it does

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But it doesnt really matter, offhand dps is so low

raven panther
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As rogue assa, our bleed and nature damage is increased by Monk physical damage buff ? or DH ?

spice surge
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Bleed from monk

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Nature from dh

quiet oar
sacred aspen
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Blizzard nerf assa in the next patch?

novel star
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probably not

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changes look mostly neutral but leaning good

sacred aspen
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Nice

dapper cradle
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casual is using treacherous AND skardyn's?

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double on use?

slim pebble
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But also - double on use with queens mandate and Skardyns is good for us

dapper cradle
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ah, maybe rio is trolling with the gear list

sullen mural
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casual also sometimes leaves key and goes back in as sub sometimes

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i think i saw him do that on last 2 bosses nw

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so raider io might fuck the gear up

dapper cradle
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true

woven shore
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lol

dapper cradle
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need that giga pump for stitchflesh

hot fulcrum
royal lantern
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like

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when would you use them

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dmg ooutside of cds is big popo

sullen mural
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Skard on dm keep transmitter for next kb

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truust

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truuuuuust

warm vortex
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When vault reset for US

royal lantern
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KB outside of DM doesnt do huge dmg

slim pebble
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If you do !trinkets in his stream it explains it

sullen mural
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in aoe kb outside of dm pumpos

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caustic gaming

sharp mountain
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
woven shore
outer turtle
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Guyz, I have a question I'm at 2.7k io assa rogue and still don't know which embelishments are better? every rogue has different ones

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I got crit over 80% hp

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most of ppl use ascendance?

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which one should I go?

sullen mural
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Cuz asc is good in raid

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and 80% hp requires your healers

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to care about you

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and i dont belive in my healers

woven shore
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lmfao

warm vortex
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Ah the vault pics

sullen mural
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I mean im just honest

outer turtle
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so, if heals care about me 80% hp with crit is better?

woven shore
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this week my vault will give me MYthic Sikram Neck

outer turtle
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what should I do?

woven shore
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639 Neck

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with socket

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and i will jerk off to my screen then

sullen mural
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Wait 2 more weeks and u can craft 4 embelishments and swap around

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gigabrain

woven shore
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whaatt

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ah

dapper cradle
spice spire
dapper cradle
woven shore
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XD

sullen mural
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Also the ascendance thing most ppl have cuz its a free mainhand dagger on high ilvl

outer turtle
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I crafter the mainhand dagger without embelishmet

slim pebble
woven shore
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Rogues are crazy

slim pebble
sullen mural
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Idk what to tell you both are good combo

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dawn is better if you have 80% uptime

heavy canopy
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that's easy, just don't get hit

thin plinth
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guys what is better authority of radiant power or authority of the depths

sullen mural
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depth for st radiant for aoe

royal python
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Radiant always if you play fatebound

mint valve
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if dawnthread is on a higher ilvl does it give more crit?

spice surge
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Nop

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Nor does ascendance

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Because for some reason blizzard decided embellishments should be nearly pointless this expac shrugeg

sullen mural
calm grail
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Will the Nerubian finery have catchup?

royal lantern
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more degen then wowhead comments

sullen mural
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brother

royal lantern
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and thats a hard bar to hit

sullen mural
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its from his stream

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its his command

royal lantern
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idc

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its twitch chat

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and who is that even

warm vortex
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GL on vault everyone

pliant remnant
blissful pecan
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im trying to make a weakaura for assa, and was wondering if there is a function in WA that counts the total number of enemy those are currently in pull?

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my goal is to make it like x 3/5 for rupture

pliant remnant
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I was trying to make something like that for Scent of Blood like a month ago

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couldn't figure it out though

copper sun
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yes

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and ring

steel ridge
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counting to 5 is hard mhkayy

warm vortex
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Seeing good vaults gives me hopes that mine will be good

hot fulcrum
sullen mural
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where are the vault screenshots na

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isnt it reset

tired gull
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1 hour

grim jay
spice spire
sullen mural
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damn

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Hope its empty

coral ibex
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that's actually what matters

pliant remnant
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Okay and?

grim jay
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Why would you want a wa for scent of blood stacks then

sullen mural
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prob to see it better somewhere else on the screen

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idk

grim jay
blissful pecan
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cool ty

pliant remnant
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Just a reminder, so it glows when you can get more Scent stacks

grim jay
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In 10.2

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Dunno if there is a work around by now

blissful pecan
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btw how hard is assa to learn? im sub player but it got doomed next patch so im trying to learn assa instead

spice surge
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You dont really need to know how many targets there are for your rupture though

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As you only really need 5 ruptures up

sullen mural
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I mean you dont really need a tracker of how many mobs

blissful pecan
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dont i?

grim jay
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You basically only have 2 circumstances

blissful pecan
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i see

grim jay
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1 is 3 or less so you rupture once

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2 is 4 or more so you rupture twice

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As far as the opener goes

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And after that you just rupture whatever doesnt have one to keep stacks

blissful pecan
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so baisicly you only have to rupture twice every pull?

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(to get 5)

sullen mural
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Kinda

grim jay
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To initially get to 5 yes

sullen mural
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You'd try to fit more garrotes in if the pull is higher just cuz ironwire is op (and it does more dmg)

warm vortex
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Anyone got gb trink in their vault?

grim jay
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Only if they drop off you need to refresh, but if you have colored nameplates, its easy to see which has no rupture

arctic socket
dense talon
blissful pecan
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nah now that i know that this feature doenst matter that much ill just skit it

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skip*

arctic socket
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It’s handy to look at

blissful pecan
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alright

arctic socket
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Hoping today I log in to see a myth track grace trinket or a queen ring

grim jay
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I got my queen ring for 100k

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So I will probably have one in vault

dense talon
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Is queen ring that good for assassin?

grim jay
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Its fully upgraded and has an effect, so its decently better than any non effect ring

arctic socket
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Free damage is free damage

dense talon
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I offered 250k for grace that dropped to dh yesterday, he was asking for 500k. I felt it was not worth it.

sullen mural
grim jay
arctic socket
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250k and he passed? That’s wild

iron valve
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y'all are paying for drops?

dense talon
arctic socket
grim jay
pliant remnant
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I'd pay for a Skardyn's

grim jay
pliant remnant
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if anybody in any of the runs I did actually got it

arctic socket
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I would pay for the special necklace

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From raid too

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On myth

grim jay
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It never drops

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But 60 heroic ones

arctic socket
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I don’t have a heroic one

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I’m using the dungeon one with a fuck ton of mastery on it

grim jay
arctic socket
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I have seen it drop a lot

sullen mural
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So next one is yours

arctic socket
warm vortex
grim jay
grim jay
arctic socket
sullen mural
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We do skip still

arctic socket
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And the hunter

sullen mural
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Annoying cuz u gotta kill 2 bosses diesofcringe

iron valve
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lol

arctic socket
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I still wanna kill princess 😦

sullen mural
arctic socket
native heron
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i wish i had 250k. I still can't afford crafted items. LMAO

grim jay
native heron
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idk how to play auction house

grim jay
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Imagine playing the AH

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Instead of just boosting on season start

arctic socket
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Yall don’t boost?

sullen mural
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Legit just boost

native heron
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Where can you boost at? ID GLADLY BOOST M+

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sorry caps

arctic socket
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Boosting 8s / 10s are crazy money still

sullen mural
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one of the 300 boost discords

iron valve
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does that change the fact that it's worth $25?

arctic socket
grim jay
native heron
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2k.

sullen mural
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Yeah u can not boost then

grim jay
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And 25 isnt that much either

arctic socket
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Only 2k?

sullen mural
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nvm

arctic socket
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You’re not boosting lmao

iron valve
arctic socket
native heron
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okay what io do i need to be to boost at?

past bobcat
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What io to boost at? I'm 2800 rn

sullen mural
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For 7-8s like 2.5k ish

humble valve
sullen mural
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for 10s like 27?

grim jay
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You can boost low m+ with 2k ig

native heron
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oh ez pz then. Ill put more work into m+ then

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But again where are you finding these boosting gigs at?

sullen mural
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i dont know

feral wasp
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Guys I play like a boosted player, are there any resources you can recommend that I can learn what to do in m+ ?

arctic socket
sullen mural
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god forbid there was a site you could find stuff on

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that'd be crazy

native heron
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dont be a dick.

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simple answer works.

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thanks

grim jay
sullen mural
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you really dont need rupture on all targets you pull, more than 5 is wasted cuz your main dmg is caustic spatter

stable cove
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do you mostly always finish at 6-7 cp?

feral wasp
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I started doing well on some dungeons that I run more frequent, but just got slapped on a +10 ara kara

sullen mural
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unless darkest night

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then u build to 7 ofc

feral wasp
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yes I try to finish 5+ but appearently i cannot use caustic spatter well

stable cove
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ah ok i was mutilating at 5

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good to know ty

sullen mural
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yeah the rule is dont use builder on 5 just envenom

stable cove
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cool thanks

sullen mural
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unless it changed but last i checked it was

stable cove
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classic rogue discord W!!!

sullen mural
feral wasp
quiet oar
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Should be number 1

spice spire
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Not always

quiet oar
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in keys?

spice spire
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But it depends on a ton

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I’ll say

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I’m Sussed by it

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Yeah

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Sometimes you just crank 3 mobs at a time

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And sux

sullen mural
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I've had mists runs where envenom was on top cuz first boss

spice spire
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Also that

sullen mural
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mostly just says tank pulled like shit tbh

lime pelican
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any wa that makes ur 5th combo point a diff color

spice spire
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Well that’s 1:2 reasons

sullen mural
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if your tank doesnt stack mobs gg

humble valve
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Maybe letting spatter fall off

spice spire
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The other reason is that you didn’t toss in a mut early enough or refresh as often

coral ibex
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spatter will be lower in lower keys bc trash dies instantly and most of your key time is bosses

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so envenom will be more total damage

spice spire
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I def had envenom top for a bit because I’d throw mut in my like

native nimbus
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Things could also be dying too fast as you ramp into it

spice spire
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7th global

coral ibex
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learn to accelerate your opener

spice spire
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200m eeems like a low key

fickle lotus
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So is void reaper contract over performing in sims? Supposed to be 1.8% of my dmg from sims but over 30ish wipes on mythic brood last night it was only doing .79% sad

feral wasp
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things dying faster makes sense since ret was exploding onto packs

native nimbus
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Right

spice spire
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Yep it’s definitely a

bleak spoke
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man why do logs and details show different dps on keys

spice spire
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Do better in accelerating

bleak spoke
coral ibex
nimble vector
bleak spoke
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i guess it adds in the non-combat time too

spice spire
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Yeah

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Where details is active time

nimble vector
spice spire
bleak spoke
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how do i make the log show combat time i woudl like an ego boost

spice spire
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Where it does more

coral ibex
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yes

spice spire
fickle lotus
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Just checked boss dmg and it's only 1.2% but yeah I see how aoe could change that that's my b

blissful pecan
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could any of you guys kindly try this out and give feedbacks? i do not have lots of experience on assa so not sure which feature to add or remove

past panther
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I was in a GB 7 where the tank pulled literally 1 pack at a time

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And couldn’t comprehend why we didn’t time it

novel star
coral ibex
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sorry i'm not importing your zip bomb

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i only use wago imports

distant plinth
sullen mural
fickle lotus
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Just wondering if I should swap it out for Empowering Crystal of Anub'ikkaj

coral ibex
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anub crystal is pretty good

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sims good

bleak spoke
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unless there was an aug evoker hiding in this key who wasn't part of it

distant plinth
sullen mural
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You never know

nimble vector
spice surge
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Its because details only shows in combat dps

fickle lotus
distant plinth
spice surge
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Logs show dps across the entire key

coral ibex
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details can include time outside combat

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you can toggle that

quiet oar
bleak spoke
quiet oar
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or is this the prefered way ?

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I try to put it in as 3rd or 4th global

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Especially wiht a DN up

spice spire
spice spire
novel star
spice spire
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I was explaining how it CAN happen

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And how like it does

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Never played with spatter until this tier

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So that MM didn’t exist

novel star
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what does marksmanship hunter have to do with it

sullen mural
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thats what im sayin

novel star
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did you like that one

arctic socket
sullen mural
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i aint the one that added those lines

arctic socket
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Skipping echo seems fine but idk about the skip of fok

quiet oar
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except maybe low keys or if you crit dmg amps

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etc

bleak spoke
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at the moment

hard river
bleak spoke
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i'm so dumb where the heck is it

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oh

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i see

gray briar
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sso many high rio players play with 2-4% haste...
am i the only one who just font like the gameplayfeeling when u have less then 8% haste?

why so less haste? cant hurt to have some more right? i mean we talking about very few dmg diffrencve right?

bleak spoke
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also someone give me mythic gear i'm so fucking tired of not raiding and wearing rat garbage

slate crown
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Damn, no culture up in here

bleak spoke
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i regret quitting raiding with all my heart

quiet oar
iron valve
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moonguard 10 key

bleak spoke
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it's completely fried

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my god

coral ibex
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yea thats why COT sucks

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npc's just like

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whole fuckin time

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man shut up let me kill you

slate crown
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NA servers up

prime sable
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
slate crown
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(log) (in)

sullen mural
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professional yappers in that key

coral ibex
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reset is in 18 mins tho so dont rush

bleak spoke
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i swear there's never been a difference in heroic/mythic gear as large as the difference right now

coral ibex
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your vault is still locked

vast loom
coral ibex
bleak spoke
gray briar
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4% will give more goblbl i thougt?

bleak spoke
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i should just go back to raiding

vast loom
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nope

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!haste

marble hemlock
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our global is 1sec no matter the haste

coral ibex
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!stat

bleak spoke
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your global is 1s static there is no exceptions

marble hemlock
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we dont work like other classes

coral ibex
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!stats

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
coral ibex
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!haste

marble hemlock
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fwiw, even if our gcd was hasted

quiet oar
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There was a haste command

marble hemlock
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the difference between 4 and 8% is not something anybody would be able to notice

quiet oar
vast loom
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there was for sure a haste command at somepoint

sullen mural
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no haste command

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bad discord

quiet oar
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!design

prisma monolithBOT
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Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
quiet oar
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THERE

coral ibex
marble hemlock
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10% haste will contribute to 0 actions per minute on aoe, since youre capping energy already anyway

gray briar
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and all this applys to m+ only (deathstalker)?

vast loom
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applies to all content

novel star
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^

vast loom
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but even more so in m+

novel star
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everything

gray briar
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wow ok...

marble hemlock
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you get a big chunk of your energy from venomous wounds

gray briar
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thx, well i will drop my haste then...

past panther
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anything you can get a bunch of ruptures up on

coral ibex
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NO

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stop caring about substats

vast loom
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just sim your gear

marble hemlock
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so the moment you get to multidot, you have a much higher energy influx than on singletarget

sullen mural
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Just sim your gear

bleak spoke
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in pure single target half your energy comes from venomous wounds, as you add more targets, a larger % comes from it

novel star
sullen mural
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Just do what simc bot says is good

novel star
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never EVER make ANY gear decision because the stats on your character sheet "look wrong"

coral ibex
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haste isn't a bad stat

novel star
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sim every single item

coral ibex
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i follow the sim and have like 60% mastery rn which is funny bc wow thats a lot but it doesnt really matter

novel star
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haste is still a good stat that gives you damage and shit

coral ibex
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thats just my best gear

bleak spoke
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i'm gonna be real, something you can definitely feel is not having crit, when you constantly spam fok in a huge pack and you get 2 combo points back

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like that is the only stat with gameplay implications imo

novel star
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its just not good enough that you pay attention to it in gearing decisions

sullen mural
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I mean vers has gameplay implications in a way

sullen mural
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not dying to stuff feel me

marble hemlock
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dying as rogue is kinda impossible

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in raid anyway

bleak spoke
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oh yeah what if i'm really bad

gray briar
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ok thx all 🙂

sullen mural
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I would agree with you

marble hemlock
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even on fights where feint doesnt work like kyveza

sullen mural
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if feint was off gcd already

novel star
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its insane how much more awkward wrest cheesing is on queen

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on dh

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vs rogue

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like holy fuck man

sullen mural
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with feint being on gcd its kinda cringe rn

novel star
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i want to shadowstep

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why do i have to GLIDE

bleak spoke
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tbf it does work on so much of the rot dmg on nexus princess

marble hemlock
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but assa has more than enough GCDs free

sullen mural
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deathstalker not really

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i mean yes more than outlaw

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but u dont pool above 50 on death

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so u mutilate alot

spice surge
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Assa is like 50 apm

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We absolutely have multiple free gcds

bleak spoke
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i think there is a world where like you want to press something during cooldowns but like i don't think you would pick feint over, say, cloak or evasion

sullen mural
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Its more about

spice surge
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Outlaw is like 85

sullen mural
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if u get hit in cooldowns

quiet oar
sullen mural
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its cringe af

quiet oar
coral ibex
marble hemlock
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gonna make a massive difference during DM

soft shale
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yea there is a reason assa has a high fatality rate in keys

coral ibex
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imagine dying during prog bc you didn't want to go over 50% energy

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xd

soft shale
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GOTTA GET THAT GARROTE IN

marble hemlock
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unless were talking about spending a GCD during dance

sullen mural
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I got farmed by the mob in necrotic wake before third boss

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cuz i didnt feint

marble hemlock
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its just a headcanon that makes zero sense

sullen mural
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cuz i was pressing mutilate

quiet oar
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I mean isnt shiv

nova aspen
coral ibex
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oh dude the barfer

quiet oar
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like dance

coral ibex
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yea

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same

bleak spoke
coral ibex
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owned me the other day

sullen mural
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That barfer

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sucks

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ASS

marble hemlock
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losing a GCD during DM is like... really whatever.

coral ibex
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"i dont need to feint this" -> kills me from 85%

sullen mural
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Bro you legit have to stand there and wait for him to target someone before pressing

novel star
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its legit the end of the world and i die irl when it happens actually seli

soft shale
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to the ground

bleak spoke
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1 time

sullen mural
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That nw mob haunts me in my dreams

soft shale
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i cant be targeted by that spell in dance

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lalala

royal iron
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!craft

prisma monolithBOT
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Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

novel star
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fuckin subs ICANT

bleak spoke
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dance was one of my favorite pieces of borrowed power on sin kapp

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i thought they would stop doing that

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but we managed to get some all the same

quiet oar
bleak spoke
tranquil birch
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Probably obvious, but 4pc bonus has very little if any effect on ST dps, right? Just seem that way from reading the descriptions

quiet oar
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even when i press everything

bleak spoke
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i swear

soft shale
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i still find funny symbol of hope refreshes vial

sullen mural
novel star
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maintenance over Pause ?

quiet oar
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The thing is , i heard this multiple times now from HEaler

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"Why is rogue so squishy i thought rogue are tanky af

quiet oar
coral ibex
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4p was just fixed to affect ST spells like kb, dm, etc

quiet oar
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and i still get ignored

bleak spoke
vast loom
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i feel like rogue is tanky until they arnt lol

quiet oar
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because most healers dont have energy problem

bleak spoke
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i mean rogue is literally just tanky

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but it requires active play

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which is like

vast loom
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as soon as we get a mechanic we cant interact with

bleak spoke
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it can be a big ask

coral ibex
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rogue is tanky until you just dont have the stam to eat a hit thru ur defensives

vast loom
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we kinda fall over

quiet oar
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I mean you can skip cheat for elus

coral ibex
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and then the DK laughs in 20% stamina talent for 1 point

quiet oar
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and get a bit tankier

sullen mural
#

Bro legit

#

every class has more hp than me

#

even with me having more gear

#

its wild

tranquil birch
bleak spoke
#

i mean like every fucking class in the game has extra stam pretty much

quiet oar
#

Any dot

#

almost kill me

vast loom
#

phys dots

#

oof

bleak spoke
#

like you walk into a group with a shaman a dk a warrior like literally anything you can think of and it' slike

quiet oar
#

even with evasion up

sullen mural
quiet oar
#

and vial

bleak spoke
#

they've got a gorillion hp

quiet oar
#

I press Vial pretty often

kind forge
#

outlaw also has stam, no ?

fickle lotus
#

Yeah

bleak spoke
#

outlaw has 5% on a node

quiet oar
#

5%

bleak spoke
#

like that is actually nothing compared to like

sullen mural
#

Outlaw really needs their stam tho

kind forge
sullen mural
#

not like they stack vers

#

oh wait

spice spire
tranquil birch
#

Ok ty

bleak spoke
#

i mean it's not as good as exhilirating execution

kind forge
#

too bad sub is bad in keys

spice spire
bleak spoke
#

but what makes outlaw actulaly tanky is elu and float

#

you can just press evasion 4fun

sullen mural
#

its 18-20 no?

loud brook
#

!embellishment

spice spire
#

Depends on build

sullen mural
#

!cxraft

#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

spice spire
prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

spice spire
#

Fuck

loud brook
#

ty

coral ibex
#

depends if you play KIR or HO

bleak spoke
#

okay but like

sullen mural
#

I mean

bleak spoke
#

that's like saying

sullen mural
#

Im simple man

#

i play whats best

bleak spoke
#

listen here okay like

kind forge
#

quake the outlaw knower Hmm

sullen mural
#

Why would you intentionaly nerf yourself

quiet oar
#

Fucking haste tax

sullen mural
#

and play worse build

bleak spoke
#

you're like man this build on no i have like a 35 vs 45s cd on a 20% dr that also fully beats like every grey cast shoot in the game

#

like

#

what are we saying

spice spire
sullen mural
#

but fuck HO

quiet oar
#

sweetie

spice spire
#

That’s a lie

slim pebble
#

Man outlaw is such a foreign language to me

spice spire
#

Tira I’ve seen our dms

spice spire
sullen mural
#

If you play HO and you get a 5 roll you wanna hang yourself

#

not worth the risk

quiet oar
#

Dont expose me like that

bleak spoke
#

like if you macroed evasion to dispatch or something like you would literally have like 40% uptime on evasion

spice spire
bleak spoke
#

like that is crazy work

slim pebble
#

Me when the outlaw talk starts

sullen mural
#

actually wait

#

arent outlaws just gonna

spice surge
sullen mural
#

macro feint in .5 into bte /dispatch

bleak spoke
#

like

tired gull
#

gl on vaults NAers

quiet oar
kind forge
#

yea 20% stam on a node is wild

lethal onyx
#

Just give us bait and switch in deathstalker 🙂

sullen mural
#

Yeah but think about uptime Tira

kind forge
#

when you already wear plate

coral ibex
#

AND THEY'RE PLATE

quiet oar
coral ibex
sullen mural
#

To survive innit

#

Who needs energy

#

outlaw never oom COPE

bleak spoke
#

like right now in high key magic damage is beaten pretty hard by constant ams or whatever right but like in like a key level or two, you're gonna walk up to a pack of snipers in siege and get shot to death instantly because your grippy hands don't grab the one guy who's shooting

#

i get the foreboding sense that i might have to play outlaw at some point

#

which i mean like

#

i mean that's fine but

#

it's really not my first choice

nova aspen
#

pro tip, the sniper's shoot is a frontal

spice surge
#

Its not only ams that makes them tanky

bleak spoke
#

that's not the one i'm talking about

spice surge
#

They inherently take like 15% less damage too, ontop of the 20% more stam

#

And have 2 walls

novel star
#

post vault or die instantly

spice surge
#

and deathstrike

bleak spoke
#

unless that's a meme malarki

novel star
#

go go go DinkDonk

bleak spoke
#

cuz like my guild's aug evoker said the same thing

sullen mural
#

they wear plate therefore they are tankier

#

flawless logic

novel star
#

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

nova aspen
#

they will turn and face u but the shoot wont follow u

deep gyro
#

Gz

nova aspen
#

so its a frontal

bleak spoke
#

me and a buddy in the guild i used to push with back in bfa went into siege and instantly tried to walk behind it, and we got shot up on the block KEKW

coral ibex
#

haha fugma

bleak spoke
#

the shoot 100% follows you

#

you're just completely incorrect

#

i'm talking abotu

deep gyro
#

At least myth hands. Not the worst

bleak spoke
#

the grey cast shoots and ricochets

young dust
#

fuck what a tough choice

waxen idol
#

xD Myth tier helm or skardans hero

young dust
#

leaning hard on trinket

nova aspen
#

but it doesnt matter anyway cuz u just shroud that pack

spice surge
#

This is the best metric we have to measure tankiness (atleast in raid) and erhm, its not exactly close

bleak spoke
#

that's not the only pack with them mann

still pewter
nova aspen
#

its the only pack thats sketch tho

bleak spoke
#

no it's not wtf are you talking about

spice surge
#

And yeyeye its flawed theres some issues with it etc, but its pretty telling

kind forge
young dust
bleak spoke
#

i mean i guess

deep gyro
spice spire
bleak spoke
#

like

#

you can line of sight them pretty conveniently except they gave ally siege so you get fire bombed

bleak spoke
#

which is like super cool

still pewter
bleak spoke
#

love that for us, blizz

spice spire
kind forge
#

tbf its DKs class fantasy to be tanky af

kind forge
#

they are already dead

deep gyro
kind forge
dusk gull
#

Ara Sacbrood Myth track or Glove Myth track?

marble hemlock
#

wdym

cinder bone
spice spire
#

Probably sac for rarity reasons

#

But that’s up to you

kind forge
dusk gull
#

simming but my queue went from 500 to 1k D:

bleak spoke
# marble hemlock

tfw my guild dks literally explaiend to me that they don't take death pact because it's not good enougha nd i'm like where the fuck is my full heal so healer can get to me later

marble hemlock
bleak spoke
#

like 15% to absorbs or something

#

for a point

#

it's on the left side near the top

kind forge
#

kek

marble hemlock
#

veteran of the third war alone is more survivability than some classes' entire kit

spice surge
# marble hemlock

Thats also missing the +8% to absorbs, the soul link you have as rider and the 15% wall you can get from lichborne

marble hemlock
#

well no one plays rider tbf

#

but yes, that doesn ot include any CDs, its just passive mitigation

wild hound
#

So im comparing my logs on Sikran with the top assa sikran log, and i noticed that I've got similar uptime, but lower mutilate and crucially envenom casts per minute. What could be the reason for this? I try to keep my energy beneath 150 as per instructed, so wondering if there could be any other reason other than SB eating up my energy?

kind forge
#

rider is getting more popular i think

#

but ye

#

lichborne wall also

spice surge
#

Uh does, atleast in raid

#

And its good

bleak spoke
marble hemlock
#

runecarved plates is deathbringer tho, so rider stuff would be mutually exclusive

bleak spoke
#

i mean the other tree has random ams

#

that you can play around

young dust
#

would you spyglass or anub

kind forge
sullen mural
#

just sim it no

#

I'd pick spy personally

bleak spoke
#

spyglass feels relaly nice in m+ to me

spice spire
#

Different niches

#

Really

bleak spoke
#

like 30% uptime on avg across my keys

#

but my crit is super low

quiet oar
sullen mural
bleak spoke
#

LOL

sullen mural
#

shadow knife angle

bleak spoke
#

but like i don't have a way to get a mythic dagger

#

other than box

wild hound
dusk gull
bleak spoke
#

i mean i guess i can go pug it

#

i try not to pug if i can

novel star
sullen mural
#

you want mine

novel star
#

double skardyn vault week

bleak spoke
#

like all my raid boxes are filled from helping my guild with splits, i just don't like

sullen mural
#

so he's casting less envenoms/mutilates

novel star
spice surge
vestal wren
#

good that they nerfed the 5% leech talent

#

rogue would be op else

sullen mural
#

real

vestal wren
#

in survivability

sullen mural
#

Speaking facts right here

young dust
neat pier
#

i have a champion skardyns... hmmm

proven jasper
#

Yeah good thing they added shadowheart too that talent is TOTALLY not trash

vestal wren
#

it was initially 5% leech

#

then nerfed to 2%

proven jasper
#

Shit was so op before had to be nerfed

timber meadow
#

grab the neck for sure I think

proven jasper
#

like wtf are we doing blizz

novel star
#

Ye most likely

desert vault
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
marble hemlock
# spice surge

this one is kinda crazy when you consider that during CDs, thats like >200k absorb shields every melee kekdog

neat pier
#

u guys think i take skaryns hero track altho i have champ or that phat umbriss band?

marble hemlock
#

you can get hero track skardyns just from the end of key chest

#

seems like a waste to take it from vault unless you dont plan on farming for it

neat pier
#

because i have champion?

rapid barn
#

I need help Im just a small boy

cyan widget
#

Hey guys, i´ve been trying fire mage in TWW, but I kinda suck, and want to go back to my rogue main, but my old school rogue is Undead, and I want to bring him to aliance. Is human viable even for myth raiding/high m+ keys? Since almost everyone is NE because of melt.

neat pier
#

sorry im a bit noob in pve @marble hemlock , feel free to PM me

timber meadow
dapper cradle
novel star
#

gna use it forever

rapid barn
#

I was thinking myth sac or wings back

bleak spoke
#

LOL

dapper cradle
desert vault
#

Why can't I just have boots AND belt!

coral ibex
#

anyone have a weakaura to track harbinger of the x achievements, like what slots still need upgrades to unlock

bleak spoke
dusk gull
dapper cradle
#

i'll sim for you

tall jay
#

I am 0ffically done with GB...after 2 runs 😄

mint valve
#

rip hero track.

neat pier
#

yo can someone actually message me privately and explain how to sim in a few steps. i undesrstand the concept and the point, but i neve used the tool. im a quick learner i just need to know how to use the tool properly then i will master it myself thanks in advance friendz

novel star
#

nah u gotta get it 639 now @tall jay xddx

#

game sucks

arctic socket
rapid barn
spice surge
nimble vector
arctic socket
#

Spyglass is a st trinket

young dust
#

my mandate 626 sims higher for ST than 639 spyglass. Might as well go for ovinax ring 639

neat pier
#

thanks uggz

spice spire
deft vault
#

Which tier piece do we not want?

spice spire
#

Change the number for whatever

spice spire
tall jay
spice spire
#

Wowhead comments ICANT

coral ibex
#

so this all has to be 619 eh

arctic socket
coral ibex
#

alright

spice spire
#

623 for gilded

spice spire
coral ibex
#

nah i still need harbinger of the runed

spice spire
#

Wait is runed 619

coral ibex
#

i was dumb and spent crests on stuff i didn't end up keeping

spice spire
#

Oh no it’s 623 for runes

kind forge
#

619 yes

spice spire
#

639 for gilded

arctic socket
kind forge
#

is it 623 for runed ?

#

sorry

spice spire
#

Oh it’s a high watermark

#

No

#

You homies are right

arctic socket
#

The item keeps the upgrade

spice spire
#

I’m wrong

#

🙂

arctic socket
#

Track

thick sable
#

Am i missing something? Why are 57% of the Assa rogue kills on Nexus-princess using master assassin?

coral ibex
spice surge
#

Theres multiple combinations of talents that are all very very close

arctic socket
#

Who wants to sim my character to see what talent builds sims highest?

spice spire
spice surge
#

Which also means that it doesnt really matter, if things are really close you can play whatever you want

arctic socket
#

Will you do it?

#

dog?

spice spire
#

You’ll be able to sim super fast!

marble hemlock
#

imagine having so many low impact talents that MA starts being good again kekdog

nova aspen
#

do i get pizza on the way home for the vault??

spice spire
#

We’re there baby

nova aspen
#

in 3 hours

marble hemlock
#

wasnt talking to you bud

spice surge
#

Not for long

spice spire
strange python
#

My shadowstep stopped working for some reason mid key

#

Even tho focus step kick macro

spice spire
strange python
#

works

mint valve
#

whats the item to take off embellishment called?

strange python
#

wtf blizzard

marble hemlock
#

you know when im talking to you quake, cuz youll feel my breath on your neck

kind forge
#

send it thresh

marble hemlock
#

did i stutter?

arctic socket
#

I don’t have a simc

spice spire
#

Man thinks he’s typhlosion

marble hemlock
arctic socket
#

Seli being spicy today

marble hemlock
#

im always spicy wdym

arctic socket
#

Quake why you getting all the hoes?

blissful pecan
#

how does this look overall

marble hemlock
kind forge
#

brother what happened here - why do i have your simc on this pc anyway

slim pebble
grizzled ember
#

I want to jump into a 6ft hole....I ran 30 GB's last week....looks like it might be another week of GB hell.

novel star
#

not a big fan of the bars on the left but its fine yeah

#

ui is all preference based

spice spire
#

(I actually have no hoes)

hard garnet
#

@grim jay I can't believe I got it lol

coral ibex
royal python
#

It's a 5% drop chance * 20% loot chance in 5 man group, which means about 1% chance drop personal

eager tree
#

anyone find mad queen's mandate useful in higher keys? like 12+?

royal python
#

Basically like farming a mythic end boss mount

grizzled ember
dusk gull
#

? is this accurate or its meant to be TWW dungeons

spice spire
little tulip
solar orbit
#

what a garbage week

neat eagle
#

what do you think guys?
It is a good sign or not?

#

581

wild pine
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
zenith prairie
#

Id love to watch a normal 580 gear log review

floral vale
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
slim pebble
#

Is it TWW dungeon week yet

dusk gull
slim pebble
#

Queens mandate from heroic cache for sure

rain wraith
main plover
#

should i be using thistle tea twice during the opener? or just once

coral ibex
#

tea for energy if you need it

#

you tea in opener to put it on cd

zenith prairie
#

Does kb snap shot thistle tea so we use it at the front or do we want it at the ending 6s of kb

main plover
#

but i see some good logs use it twice in opener

#

start of deathmark/right before kingsbane

#

and second last 6 seconds of kingsbane

icy crater
#

Some ppl prob have it macroed into KB I'd imagine

vast loom
coral ibex
#

ulduar drop

#

from tw chest

main plover
vast loom
#

for na

coral ibex
#

yes

vast loom
#

oof

zenith prairie
#

R1 people don’t have it macroed

#

lol

main plover
#

exactly

spice surge
#

The ideal use of tea is when you need energy during shiv, nothing about last 6 seconds of kb anymore

main plover
#

i mean shiv and last 6 seconds of kingsbane overlap

zenith prairie
#

But prio on energy gain

spice spire
#

No real set time

#

Yeah

granite gate
#

Stupid game

main plover
#

i mean this was for sure both wasted energy

spice surge
#

Yep

main plover
#

but its the rank1 log on ulgrax

hard garnet
hard garnet
vast loom
spice spire
#

R1 still make mistakes

main plover
#

nah that guy does that every pull tho

spice spire
#

Believe it or not

main plover
#

also its used right after both shivs in opener

icy fjord
main plover
#

not same time

#

so no macro

spice surge
#

Hes wrong

#

On ST its better to use it for the energy during shiv

#

(besides the first one)

main plover
#

so just throw first one on first shiv and then for energy/shiv windows?

deep gyro
split veldt
#

how much haste y'all rocking, im down to 5% and it feels painful, but sims keep telling me to drop haste, for slice anyway

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
spice surge
#

But ye on aoe you already have infinite energy, so its less worth

novel star
split veldt
spice surge
#

Overall doesnt matter much though, equip highest ilvl Surebud

split veldt
#

pooling just makes me sad, i feel like im doing nothing

restive falcon
#

i completed vault

#

i got week2 myth track sabrood

rare jackal
restive falcon
#

then today i got myth track skardyns

split veldt
#

but M+ feels great

icy crater
#

I got myth track sac brood 2 weeks in a row and I think I'm skipping on it both weeks

wild pine
#

might be a stupid question but if i have bubbling wax activated then i switch weapons do i lose the buff?

spice surge
#

Yes

wild pine
#

oh damn ok ty

little tulip
#

yeah pooling
the most okay part of playing assassin

split veldt
#

are yall using all the gem colors or still stacking crit/mast for all 5

eager tree
#

!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
#

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

  • For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
  • For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

little tulip
#

i send extra mutilates sometimes with er up or whatever and that makes me kinda sadge

grim jay
little tulip
#

and also since er is going away what's gonna happen to the spec is deathstalker getting nerfed or what

spice spire
grim jay
coral ibex
#

i guess its a small loss to not use them in your cd window

little tulip
#

or like i have dn up and i send at 6 twice cause issue

coral ibex
#

oh yea that stinks

#

mutilating at 6 for DN

little tulip
#

yeah it stings

coral ibex
#

i hate it

#

gotta do it tho

little tulip
#

fok is a little cheaper but who would do that

coral ibex
#

just always have a ctw proc of course

split veldt
#

is there a gems command

#

!gems

#

!gem

#

sadge

spice spire
#

For wat

#

It’s just a sim angle

split veldt
#

how do i sim all the gems, top gear?

spice spire
#

Yeah

icy crater
#

Is it possible the sim is over-valuing spyglass? My sim(dslice) has 23%+ of uptime and I can't find an m+ log with more than like 15%

spice spire
#

Oh m+ log

#

I mean @bleak spoke mentioned 30% earlier

#

On his

#

Personally I just don’t use it in m+

#

Good st trinket tho

stable flint
#

For me does spyglass sim higher in AOE while ara kara sims higher in st

royal python
#

Both are shit trinkets, aim for empowering crystal imo

novel star
eager tree
#

champion track dagger sims higher in dungeon slice for me than hero track spyglass

royal python
loud brook
#

How should your dmg breakdown look like?

icy crater