assassination

[subtle tundra]

i liked the sound effect and animation
i knew ill be fast popping some finishers

[quiet oar]

Ye

I think it took them a while

to know what to do with ER

but with TWW it really worked well

with Sin

and before with Outlaw

[ancient pendant]

guys do you know about recuperator fix on ptr?

[royal lantern]

ill say it a million times

its hilarious that ER was legit a dogshit ability all the time

then they finally made ER feel and play good->removed 2months later

[ancient pendant]

does it get fixed on PTR (11.0.5)

[royal lantern]

like, sorry but deathstalker without ER will feel a good chunk worse

[quiet oar]

Yep

Just make a choice node

out of it

that you can chooses between ER and Supercharger

[royal lantern]

they dont even make a choice node for the braindead tea change lmao

[quiet oar]

Ye

Ture

[royal lantern]

and you expect them to do one for 2 different abilitys?

[subtle tundra]

also they made it a 2 pointer?

wth

probably to be the same as other 2 branches but idc

[quiet oar]

idk

Rogue will feel worse

without ER

And they will prolly still not fix the Parry bug

Where DN and ER/Superchrager gets consumed

[warm vortex]

I still don’t know if I’m that big on the tea change
I’ll see once it comes out

[keen spruce]

I love it when Tryan starts soap boxing about changes

he has some of the best dooming

[strange python]

At 610 ilvl, who needs gear 😄

[royal lantern]

:3

[subtle cipher]

Just saw this

[warm vortex]

Oh my gosh

[naive walrus]

Yo, quick question, how do you handle the AoE dmg in M+? Do you garrot everyghing around and cast crimson tempest, or garrot till you get 5-6cp, cast rupture, then garrot another mobs, cast rupture and then the crimson tempest?

[pearl ingot]

We know 😉

[quiet oar]

Gottem

[mystic osprey]

balanced spec

[subtle tundra]

i think i should never be allowed to cook

[quiet oar]

Where Crab build

[warm vortex]

If you garrote then rupture, bone spike will usually just refil your CP

So most of the time you can gar, rup, rup, gar, CT the. Start your stuff

At least I think

[mystic osprey]

its just different...,

[royal lantern]

mate, we should first talk about that dk and mage ok

cus wtf is that dmg, 1,5m Overall in a +11 is low af

[balmy condor]

would you like to know the loss on this

[warm vortex]

Maybe they are also 610 haha

[ashen orbit]

Is it? how so?

[subtle tundra]

its ptr talents

[royal lantern]

cus those 2 classes should do a good chunk more dmg?

[balmy condor]

okay

is that a yes then

or

[subtle tundra]

yessssssssss

[quiet oar]

i mean you can pump a lot in a mists

[subtle cipher]

Hey whisp, do you like pudding

[balmy condor]

pudding these nuts in your mouth

yeah

[subtle cipher]

[royal lantern]

varas you tool ttk and then no Dragon tempered

bruh

and no amp poison

[subtle tundra]

ofc

[balmy condor]

gonna have to try a bit harder than that bud

[subtle cipher]

0x1

[balmy condor]

aight what's your guess

[subtle cipher]

Keep your guard up

[subtle tundra]

-6%

[balmy condor]

oh.

[warm vortex]

Whispyr, what do you think of assassination rogue

[balmy condor]

oh sweetie.

[ashen orbit]

In a mists where you are limited in the maze? Dunno if I agree tbh

[subtle tundra]

weewoo

[ashen orbit]

seems like fine dmg

[subtle tundra]

woawzerz

[balmy condor]

assassination rogue these nuts in your mouth

nice try

[barren island]

I should tea on opener even if I'm energy capped?

[balmy condor]

yes

capped = drink

[barren island]

K :/

[royal lantern]

brother, i had 1,8m in a shity pug weekly +10 key for vault yesterday

[sharp viper]

gg now I'm an alcoholic

[royal lantern]

after 2nd boss, mist pulls are huge lol

[keen spruce]

what are you doin in here go back to #1231592737221120152

[balmy condor]

It's okay I'm sure it's great single target right

[subtle tundra]

lol

[sharp viper]

JUST DID, now it's your turn

[subtle cipher]

I did a 11 mists and my brain still can't figure it out second boss/pathing

[keen spruce]

yes ma'am

[subtle cipher]

I just wait for someone to ping

[keen spruce]

[subtle cipher]

[keen spruce]

why is raiderio takin so damn long to load rn

[royal lantern]

same

[subtle cipher]

Just cant

[warm vortex]

I remember having a group at +2 pace on a ten, everyone started hitting wrong clone. I mass pinged the right one and they didn’t budge

We died

[balmy condor]

classic

[subtle cipher]

Btw they changed spear stacking on stich boy?

[balmy condor]

yes

[subtle cipher]

Heard you cant anymore

Fuck

[balmy condor]

spears don't stack

[subtle tundra]

i have no investment into poisons, surely kb isnt worth it

[balmy condor]

oh boy

[vocal minnow]

kill me rn

[subtle cipher]

What abomination is this

[solar wyvern]

I see some green icons, now take kb like a good boy :^)

[subtle tundra]

its art

[subtle cipher]

It's death, sadness and depression

[balmy condor]

varas in a race to the bottom atm

[subtle tundra]

arterial precision + 12 sec MA

huge on pull burst

?

[balmy condor]

honestly you might have gotten to -20

I need to check

[subtle cipher]

Btw when we will have 12 sec of improved garrote

[subtle tundra]

i think i need to go IB for that

in a week

[subtle cipher]

[subtle tundra]

if you spec subterfuge ofc

[subtle cipher]

Wut

[balmy condor]

varas you've done it

it's half a percent better than your last cook

[subtle tundra]

improving

[balmy condor]

just do that another 26 times and we'll have a build

[subtle tundra]

i was really considering to go ib

[royal lantern]

MA is a noob trap

just crit mate

[sharp viper]

varas will scale exponentially

[subtle cipher]

Varas, make whisp update the guide

U can do it

[balmy condor]

you're acting like my guide isn't already written for 11.0.5

brother

[subtle cipher]

Isn't written after varas cook

[subtle tundra]

i can make a build better than his
i take out iron wire 😉

[subtle cipher]

[royal lantern]

youre acting as if we can read

[subtle cipher]

90% of tanks I know doesn't know iron wire is a thing

Just remove it

Fuck them

[lethal mortar]

if there's 1 mob low hp left and your tank chain pulls they should get banned immediately, their utilies in their house shut off, and they get the swat team sent to their house

[balmy condor]

varas I need cook what are playing in single target

[subtle cipher]

Yeah, this kill our dps

They need to learn

We need to restealth

[lethal mortar]

they will learn by leaving the key immediately after they chain

ive done it

and im not joking

[subtle cipher]

Time to make a reddit cain

Bro, and this affix that keep fucking my stealth

Ffs

[lethal mortar]

mist maze randomly kicking u out of stealth

[subtle tundra]

amp + ttk

Not for st ofc

no sbs no sd

[balmy condor]

I asked for single target and you bring me this nonsense

[quiet oar]

btw

Does anyone know

the Stacking buff we get in raid now

[glacial relic]

great for low keys for huge SD I like it 😄

[quiet oar]

is this getting calculated out of the logs

[balmy condor]

sure yeah of course

naturally

[subtle tundra]

buddy if you microwave your frozen lasagna, and your gf tells you she wants frozen spaghetti do you take it out when its almost unfrozen or do you let it finish

[cinder grotto]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[past panther]

gm all

[subtle cipher]

Let it finish and I eat it

[quiet oar]

WHAT??

[subtle tundra]

best analogy i could come up with

[quiet oar]

Microwave a Lasagne !?!?!?

[balmy condor]

trick question

[subtle cipher]

Yeah bro

When they are frozen

U need

[subtle tundra]

we cant be trickster it fatebound or deathstalker

[quiet oar]

Just put it out ealier

and put it in the oven

you monsters

[balmy condor]

varas, MA in single target yes or no

[subtle cipher]

Oven lmao

[static geyser]

how important is off hand ilvl

[balmy condor]

not very

dude varas

[subtle tundra]

no...

[balmy condor]

you're winning

it's getting better and better

[spice surge]

The least important slot out of all of them

[balmy condor]

what about ttk

[subtle tundra]

ofc

LOL

[balmy condor]

hm

[keen spruce]

tf are yall cookin

[balmy condor]

varas came up with a build that's over 13% worse in dungeonslice

and he's been slowly improving it

by cooking even uglier builds

[keen spruce]

he could improve it by just running a normal build

[spice surge]

Theyre cocking, not cooking

[subtle tundra]

for st?

i changed class tree too

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/you-may-continue-proceed-keep-going-continue-daniel-craig-gif-15562571

[balmy condor]

let me get this straight right, just so I can understand your logic here

[royal lantern]

1, stealth doesnt really matter

2, mate, in that case you just kill the mob and then stealth and go to the next pack

stop acting as if you guys can never stealth at all, thats not the case, dont say "PLAY WITH RANDOMS" cus it doesnt happen there aswell

[balmy condor]

you don't take any of the bleed talents right

and then take sanguine

[vestal wren]

[keen spruce]

whispyr his logic is

"this is gonna rustle whispy's jimmies"

[subtle tundra]

ngl i didnt even think about sanguine it was auto included

bro wheres my superior i need to ask him questions so i dont have to cook talent builds

[vestal wren]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-on-your-own-just-do-it-solo-by-yourself-nobody-else-gif-15743400

[balmy condor]

just take it, this one's on the house

free of charge

[vestal wren]

ma cook

[subtle tundra]

MA over sanguinbe?

what is single target

waah.....

[balmy condor]

yeh so

MA is kinda okay on live

and then they "nerfed it"

by going from 30% to 25%

but they also doubled the duration

so

[vestal wren]

"nerfed" by doubling the duration

[balmy condor]

very reasonable buff

[subtle tundra]

what if instead of doomblade sbs you go ss + sob 1 stacker

[balmy condor]

it's like a full percent better than sanguine

varas, what

[subtle tundra]

yea im fucked in the head i guess

[balmy condor]

think about that

what you just told me

[subtle tundra]

imagine this

[balmy condor]

you want me

[subtle tundra]

im this cocked in the head and its only 1 pm and at 9pm i have queen ansurek for 3.5hr

[balmy condor]

to take a point from above the gate

and put it below the gate

[subtle tundra]

iM THINKING MAN

[balmy condor]

THINK HARDER

[subtle tundra]

hope we kill queef ansurek before patch

5 raid nights,4 with nerfs

[vestal wren]

how close are you to a kill?

[subtle tundra]

not close

not...

nope

nuh uh...

can i plug my stream? i have subway surfers + classical music

[feral wasp]

we killed it on the 1st try that we were able to progress into the 2nd platform 😄

[vestal wren]

you know you can just

add the streamer role

and let your stream auto post

[subtle tundra]

it does already!

[balmy condor]

right idea, wrong difficulty

[vestal wren]

ah perfect

i talked to some rly excited players

who progress queen

very well tuned fight apperently, def. not too hard or in need of a nerf

[feral wasp]

lol , i don't think i'm killing mythic queen

[subtle tundra]

its hard, really hard

cause even if you learn p1 perfectly

you can just get bad rng

and die

many times

with no counterplay

[cursive mango]

quick question for zekvir on ?? as assa rouge: How do you deal with the enfeebling spittle dot, since you are kind of forced to interrupt the heal?

[vestal wren]

if it wasn't obviouse, the fight seems rly hard to kill even for higher wr's i am fairly certain it sees nerfs soon

[balmy condor]

brann dispel/cloak

/pray

[subtle tundra]

idk how i keep getting to last bosses and think to myself that it is the hardest boss ive ever played

[limber lion]

but is that "hard" really?

sounds like shitty design to me

not difficult

[subtle tundra]

the rng dodge lines are shitty

[vestal wren]

this raids difficultly curve is wild

first 4 are resonable

then you get hit in the face for the reminder of the raid

[royal lantern]

its imo crazy that they nerf mythic queen

[vestal wren]

its the same with keys

[royal lantern]

but leave broodtwister/princess/council alons

[vestal wren]

12 is also for people who enjoy the pain

[wild hound]

What dps do you guys reckon everyone needs on average to kill the different bosses on mythic?

[royal lantern]

like, broldtwister having a 2blood DK hard requirment is just so stupid lmao

[subtle tundra]

brood and princess have been nerfed already though

the fights arent the same as the wf kills

council is reasonable-ish

dps/heal wise

[royal lantern]

i just really really want them to adress the broodtwister blood DK situation somehow

it feels so bad that you drag a shity 608 DK alt into the raid just for that fight

[subtle tundra]

princess post nerf and pre nerf are 2 different fights

(not really)

but numbers wise

but before you did the mechanics perfectly and you died through defensives to just dmg

[quiet oar]

I mean Queen gets nerfed

Today/Tomorrow

[quiet oar]

adn with the new tactic

3 healer

[rotund oak]

😂

[quiet oar]

so you can skip 2 egg breaks at the end

[royal lantern]

our strat is "2 guys always forget their interupts"

[quiet oar]

We had this Strat too

but we changed it

to" Not forget your interrupt"

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[quiet oar]

You know whats insane

Our Frost DK

soaked 7... SEVEN puddles at once

[late surge]

man dw

[quiet oar]

and only died at the Seventh

[late surge]

dk is balanced

dont nerf it

[royal lantern]

DK moment

[quiet oar]

Like he would have survied SIX

[late surge]

I die from 2

[royal lantern]

not overtuned deffensive wise

[late surge]

kekW

[quiet oar]

Our DHs/DKs and Monks

tanked MORE

puddles

than our BDKs

???

[late surge]

did u kill tira

[quiet oar]

Ye sunday

[late surge]

poggies

have u pulled kyveza yet

[quiet oar]

Yes

We had 30 pulls

on sunday

Quick pulls

[late surge]

did u spec elusiveness yet

[quiet oar]

Yes

[late surge]

ok good

cuz fuck me

[quiet oar]

I did after some pulls

[late surge]

without it

u cant live

shit

[quiet oar]

because i realized

wait

Cheat is completeyl uselss

[late surge]

yes

mine healed me for 10M once tho

[quiet oar]

Its insane

how people still refer to Rogue as "its so tanky omg"

While every rot dmg

[late surge]

yes

[quiet oar]

kills you

even in dungeons

[late surge]

one pull

I died

[quiet oar]

Everytime i play with premade healer

[late surge]

through double feint and cocoon

whe n ididnt have elusiveness

I wanted to cry

[quiet oar]

"Dude why does rogue get so much dmg in comparison to everyone else"

[late surge]

bc if its not aoe

we dotn have defensives

KEKW

[quiet oar]

Like i press Vial and Evasion on CD in dungeons

and Cloak

and Health pot

[royal lantern]

or when its aoe but not aoe for feint

[late surge]

yeah

that one is the best!

[quiet oar]

I mean

Feint not being on GCD

[late surge]

or when its nature damage but cloak doesnt work

[quiet oar]

with 11.0.5

[late surge]

!

[quiet oar]

is a huge imporvement

[late surge]

yes

thank fuck

ive just defaulted to elusiveness at this point

I feel like a level 70 without it

[worthy wraith]

Anyone playing with quazii plater profile for m+ ?

[pliant remnant]

No, nobody

[snow sinew]

literally

[worthy wraith]

Anyone knows a good plater profile ?

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[royal lantern]

[novel star]

[oak tangle]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax can once again be applied to weapons of all levels
There might still be bugs and odd things happening to it that hasn't been tested yet, but it seems to be working based on initial testing

[oak tangle]

where do i get wax

[jade carbon]

Kobold pickpocketing

[oak tangle]

do i have to go into delves or is there a non delve spot

[flat sentinel]

why does untimed seige not even count for vault :S

[royal lantern]

?

they do ?

[flat sentinel]

not for me just then it didnt

thats probly 3rd time this season

hasnt given me a vault

[quiet oar]

there was/is a bug

i remember that

[royal lantern]

sounds like a bug

[flat sentinel]

what a waste oif time that was lol

[onyx rock]

Make your own

[spice surge]

Or take something somebody else has done and save yourself a lot of work

[onyx rock]

But its fun to make your own UI

[gusty mirage]

Hi @spice surge

[grim jay]

First time ive heard about it

[torn shadow]

There's 3 good spots all in ringing depths, north east, slightly easter of that spot, and middle west

[oak tangle]

gotta do a quest i found out

[quiet oar]

Ye but you are deaf

Thats why you cant hear

[limber lion]

Hi @gusty mirage

[umbral cypress]

do i have to put diff gem colors for the diamond to work or just sim?

[lament stump]

cheat death feels le troll

[arctic socket]

What are you boys simming at now?

I just broke 1.25m

[quiet oar]

!bug

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[tall atlas]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[urban haven]

You can Also vanish the spittle

[grim jay]

Sass me again and you can hear DN

[quiet oar]

I already have a sound Darkest Night

but thanks

[spice surge]

Hello oximan

[viscid aurora]

Yo, best embelish for purely mythic+ on assa rogue ?

[zenith prairie]

Double dawn thread

[bronze marlin]

noob question about assa (Ive never really played it), but in m+ is it a case of having to switch targets a lot to keep dots up etc? Kinda like spinning plates etc.

[paper cloak]

#showtooltip Kidney Shot
/cast [@mouseover,mod:shift,harm][] Kidney Shot

anyone knows why mouseover not working?

[royal lantern]

yes, when rupture ends on a target, you apply it again

thats the basic gameplay loop of a dot based spec, managing dots

[brave stump]

wtf is your ilvl btw

i saw it randomly on wowprogress

[worldly sail]

try putting mod:shift before @mouseover, only thing i can think of

[brave stump]

mfer got all the loot

[quiet oar]

629

im stacked

im feeling bad

[brave stump]

nice trinkets

[royal lantern]

i expected Something like 632 now lol

[quiet oar]

Look at neck

and rings

[brave stump]

nah im good

fu

[quiet oar]

Rare pieces i meant

[royal lantern]

the worst players get the best loot, always remember that :3

[quiet oar]

????

[royal lantern]

:333

[brave stump]

i burned 90 gilded on an outlaw weapon

[quiet oar]

Arent we 639 Skardyns and Sacbrood brothers?

[brave stump]

its haunting me

[fallen arch]

True, all loot is for green parsers always

[royal lantern]

yes

[grim jay]

You get what you deserve

Ngl

[brave stump]

[grim jay]

[brave stump]

why did it have to be nerfed 2 days later

[grim jay]

Does it feel good in your bag tho?

[brave stump]

[quiet oar]

well its buffed

now

in comparison to release

2% better

[brave stump]

lemme quickly rock my mastery gear for the main gauche

[grim jay]

Real question is tho

How did you even get to find tiras name on wowprogress

[brave stump]

he is on same server

[quiet oar]

ye

[brave stump]

and like 5th place ilvl

[grim jay]

Sounds exactly like what a stalker would say

[brave stump]

some would say

im a death stalker

[quiet oar]

Look at ring and neck

[brave stump]

[quiet oar]

literally loot infused by loot council

[brave stump]

i bet you're so welcomed by your guildmates

[grim jay]

At which Ring am I looking

[brave stump]

ovinax ring

[quiet oar]

The ring ill put on your Finger soon

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/desi-banks-getting-crunk-happy-dance-hell-yeah-gif-15119215

[grim jay]

Its just a raid ring 5th boss

[arctic socket]

The trinket combo

Myth 2nd boss dagger

[quiet oar]

the queen ring

[arctic socket]

All the funny double effect jewelry

[grim jay]

Im happy for you btw, you deserve it

[grim jay]

Have that aswell

[brave stump]

imagine not having the rashanan back

[grim jay]

For a small loan of 100k gold

[brave stump]

pfft

[quiet oar]

No worries

[arctic socket]

Rashanan back? Which one is that

[quiet oar]

will get it tomorrow in vault

With only 1 mythic slot

[grim jay]

I kinda am sad I didnt get the neck yet tbf

[brave stump]

my crit vers neck goes hard

[arctic socket]

All of our healers got the necklace first

[normal mist]

Mods ban this guy

[grim jay]

619 skardyn

Are you even playing

[quiet oar]

You can ban me into your Bedroom

[arctic socket]

619 ain’t much difference then a 626

[safe barn]

is DS still conflicting with 2 rogues?

[grim jay]

Sure

[arctic socket]

And I have done gb too much

[grim jay]

619 mainhand aint much different from a 626 either

[arctic socket]

Yeah but that’s way different

and if you don’t have a 636 Mai hand you’re just trolling

It’s free

Now

[grim jay]

Gearing is a game of 5k increases at this point

Obviously 619 is different from 626

[arctic socket]

It’s more of a upgrade for me to farm the time walking trinket

Over the 626

[grim jay]

"farming"

[quiet oar]

Biggest upgade is 10K

thats the ring from hero to mythic

[grim jay]

Yeah I put that aside for now

[quiet oar]

Soon

tm

in

2 months

or so

[grim jay]

[arctic socket]

The queen nerf is wild

Making everything easy

[grim jay]

Im quite positive I'll spend a few weeks on princess with our clowns

[sharp viper]

same, but raid gotta get through rashanan first KEKW

[arctic socket]

Yall struggling on radhanan?

[grim jay]

Rashanan was kinda fine ngl

[fleet turtle]

guys i have a question: why the sims say to me to have haste/mast on my crafted gear ? i have crit/mast atm and a little gain with haste/mast

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/njAgqZQh8VcqBa7hekc4d9

[arctic socket]

My group struggled a little on the second mythic boss… since no one wanna to cc mini adds

[grim jay]

Dont think we cced them either

Tbf

They just kinda died

[arctic socket]

Yeah finally we just started dealing more damage and the boss became a joke lmao

[gusty mirage]

Hi cutie

[spice surge]

Its 0.1%, it doesnt really matter, its pretty much within variance of the sim itself

[thin dock]

hey friends, for m+, how do we currently sim / whats the best sim settings

[fleet turtle]

everybody are in crit/mast so ?

[royal lantern]

dslice

[arctic socket]

crit vers crafted was my highest simmed craft

[royal lantern]

no they arent

[arctic socket]

I went with mastery crit

[grim jay]

Haste mastery bcs no special neck

[thin dock]

isnt dungeonslice a meme sim, its super innacurate

[grim jay]

I have a vers enchant tho

Struggle of liking all of them

[spice surge]

No

Its impossible to sim m+ exactly, but dungeonslice is a decent approximation

[quiet oar]

Same

[royal lantern]

no it isnt, rogue dslice is very very well maintained

maybe for some other classes lime warlock that dont give a shit about their sims its bad i gues

[tall atlas]

we are blessed with amazing mods

[royal lantern]

but warlocks also "find" 400% dps increases on a regular basis

[grim jay]

Maybe his issue is that he thinks he is supposed to deal the dmg the sim spits out

[quiet oar]

Warlocks

Sandbagging

frfr

[grim jay]

And doesnt just use it as a tool for gearing decisions

[thin dock]

thats not my issue, I understand how sims work

[grim jay]

Then its the best way to currently sim it.

[drowsy bone]

Did somebody try the 11.0.5 assa iteration and enjoyed it ? Havent tried myself

[spice surge]

Its pretty much the same as now

Except you dont press snd and er

[drowsy bone]

You dont press er anyomre ?

So it simplifies the gameplay loop

[nova aspen]

and u can press feint whenever u want

[spice surge]

They removed it

[quiet oar]

ER gets removed

[spice surge]

ER gets removed

[rotund oak]

like u even cared dh scum

joking ofc

[tired gull]

Grats on kill whispyr

[drowsy bone]

still cost 30 energy I bet ?

[grim jay]

Unlucky

[nova aspen]

think so

[drowsy bone]

Dumbing down the rotation. Not sure I enjoy that too much

[subtle tundra]

i spit on your opinion

[quiet oar]

yes

[grim jay]

Fellow er enjoyer?

[subtle tundra]

ofc

[spice surge]

Ok kingsbane hater

[subtle tundra]

stay mad L

[quiet oar]

I mean ER works for ttwo superior specs

[subtle tundra]

i am mad and i take L for er removal

[quiet oar]

i dont know why they remove it

[grim jay]

Kb hating is an L, but er loving is a W

So we are fine

Ig

[thin dock]

what ER gets removed ??

[spice surge]

Supercharger is cooler than ER anyway

[quiet oar]

Maybe for Sub

[subtle tundra]

supershit

[spice surge]

No for assa too

[subtle tundra]

L

[spice spire]

Ur cool

[spice surge]

Instead of cringe extra cp over 45 seconds

You get more damage during shiv

[quiet oar]

Not a fan

still

[royal lantern]

and worse deathstalker gameplay

[quiet oar]

ER impacted rotation

[royal lantern]

cus 7cp for DN is soooo bad

[quiet oar]

Supercharger is just another buff on shiv

[grim jay]

Lets just name it shitcharger

[thin dock]

idk assa feels soooo good right now, why change anything in 1

[subtle tundra]

you already are in kb and using tea during shiv

outside of shiv you are literally doing nothing
atleast er got you SOMETHING to think/do

[quiet oar]

Also

In m+

[spice surge]

Stay mad L

[quiet oar]

you lose

[subtle tundra]

i am mad

[spice surge]

????

[subtle tundra]

ofc

[quiet oar]

Only 1 Shiv

[spice surge]

So

[grim jay]

Bcs people are still crying about buttons and crying about ER has been a thing since sl

[soft shale]

dont worry just fok 7 times for 7 cp in aoe

[quiet oar]

based

[subtle tundra]

er in aoe felt good cause it saved you from shit crit rng

[grim jay]

Just have high crit

Problem solved

[quiet oar]

Fuck Supercharger

[thin dock]

can anyone link assa rogue changes for next patch

[soft shale]

time to play double vanish the zeross revenge

[grim jay]

Pins

[subtle tundra]

supershit glazers only argument for it is hurr durrr burst

when we know what happens when blizz keeps buffing our burst

[soft shale]

you can also abuse the bug

[subtle tundra]

df s3 df s4

kb bots

and its already the 2nd burst buff we get this patch(tier set changes being the first)

[spice surge]

Idk maybe but sims seem to prefer supercharger anyway

[subtle tundra]

and er change isnt the only change for burst, ttk is played

[soft shale]

nah it was a joke charger seems fine

it will be funny when you oopsie and consume it on ct or rupture tho

wathing as that 40 secs ct goes down

slowly

like hmm+

[grim jay]

Sudden demise value

[soft shale]

the secret tech DM that 10 cp rupture and CT

suddenly BOOM HEADSHOT

[quiet oar]

Envenom crits for 12 million

24 Million on dmg amps

soon

trust

[grim jay]

Love to see it

The real finisher spec

[woven shore]

motherfucker

[grim jay]

[subtle tundra]

we become mists first boss specialists

[woven shore]

2x mythic track

[quiet oar]

[woven shore]

while i have to endure 20 30 gb runs

and then buy hero track for 300k

[grim jay]

Idk, sounds like a you issue

Did you try looting it?

[quiet oar]

Just loot it?

[woven shore]

aaahh yea

[quiet oar]

Was pretty easy ngl

[woven shore]

you are right

im so stupid

[nova aspen]

buying a trinket when u could just get it

[subtle tundra]

yea buddy average is 25

youre not even unlucky

[quiet oar]

right!?

[woven shore]

you rogues can lick my hole

[grim jay]

I only lick tiras

[woven shore]

[grim jay]

Hes the messiah of gear

[quiet oar]

I have 12 GB runs

[winged sun]

I only lick tiras

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

I had 3 for trinket

Like 6 for ring

[woven shore]

funny

[quiet oar]

on my 12th ara kara

i got Sacbrood hero

and traded it away

with Speed !

[grim jay]

I just looted heroic knife

Who cares about peasant trinkets

[quiet oar]

Yeah i dont know

People just lazy to loot the right thing davyn

[grim jay]

Ye its wild idk

[nova aspen]

i also traded away my first sac

like a week ago

last night, timed a 12, shaman didnt need sac

now it rots in my bags

[quiet oar]

based

[grim jay]

Sac and spyglass never simmed good for me anyways

Crystal all the way

Just looting heroic knife is better tho

[woven shore]

same

[nova aspen]

im using normal knife atm

but i have a hero candle, crystal, sac all at 619 as well

they all sim differently every time i do it

so idk what is best

[grim jay]

I have every heroic trinket except contract at this point

[nova aspen]

(my other slot is 626 grace)

[rotund oak]

simp

[rotund oak]

[nova aspen]

if i ever get queen ring, then it tells me crystal sims the best

[rotund oak]

i cant drop anything

my mage though has all the loot

coz blizzard thinks its nice to effortlessly give everything on alts

[nova aspen]

this is partly why i haven't made an alt yet

cuz i know he will get all the gear

[mint valve]

What time is reset?

[nova aspen]

that my rogue wants

[rotund oak]

i swear,this is true

1 raid ive taken mandate

[nova aspen]

2.5 hrs

[quiet oar]

Just make a rogue alt

[candid hull]

worth crafting dagger after the 2 dawnthread crafts?

[rotund oak]

yeah if u dont have a high ilvl MH

[mint valve]

Is it an hour reset this week?

[rotund oak]

why are u in a tight schedule to play wow bruh?

[mint valve]

So tight bro

[rotund oak]

damn

[nova aspen]

he just doesn't want his vault to cook at all

[rotund oak]

raw

[mint valve]

Gotta get them eggs right out the chickens butt

[candid hull]

MH is 626 OH is 619

[spice spire]

Rawdogging the vault ain’t no way

[rotund oak]

u should sim the difference but its definitely worth it

[quiet oar]

frfr

[candid hull]

Hey alright thanks

[quiet oar]

need to atleast let it cook for 2 hours

[rotund oak]

idk if an off-tier piece636 would sim higher than a wpn

[quiet oar]

maybe even 3-4

[grim jay]

Can tell you, mine is always cooking for like 10 hours

[quiet oar]

Thats way too long

Davyn

[grim jay]

Ikr

[quiet oar]

Where Home Office

[grim jay]

Thats why I only got 1 useful mythic piece so far

[quiet oar]

to loot early

[grim jay]

Department heads dont get home office here

[quiet oar]

What is this bs

[grim jay]

Ikr

[quiet oar]

Home office

one of the best things

[grim jay]

Calling it discrimination aint far off

[quiet oar]

To ever happen

and i thank Covid for it

[grim jay]

The only thing covid helped me with is taking some money off of me

So I have lighter pockets

[nova aspen]

i had the covid in late june that shit sucked

[glacial crypt]

I will bite you

That's another rogue name though ty

[grim jay]

I thought Whispyr is the vampire

Why is he on the receiving end

[brisk kestrel]

hey guys! with the follow the blood change, are you building with fan of knives in 2 targets situation? or still going with mutilate?

[spice surge]

Youre not speccing follow the blood still

The other talent is better

[hard garnet]

I don’t suppose any of the current time warped hero track stuff are worth going for on assas?

[grim jay]

Depends on what you have

Wrathstone is good

[hard garnet]

Currently rocking Heroic Merc Egg and champion Skardyn

Both 619

Is there a chance 619 wrathstone might be an increase on ST?

Over the egg^

[quiet oar]

idk Egg isnt goodge

imo

[grim jay]

It would be an increase over the skardyn

[quiet oar]

because mvoement

[grim jay]

[hard garnet]

Skardyn is BIS no?

[quiet oar]

Yes

[grim jay]

Its low ilvl and wrathstone basically does the same

[quiet oar]

Wrathstone

competes with Skardyns

and Transmitter

[hard garnet]

Oh ok

Well both would be 619

[quiet oar]

Just sim

[hard garnet]

so it’s worth running both wrath and Skardyn?

[grim jay]

Hero wrathstone is 626

[hard garnet]

Yeah will do

[grim jay]

No

You cant run both

[hard garnet]

Oh yeah but I can only afford 619 atm

No?

[grim jay]

They are both on use

Used with dm

[hard garnet]

Oh ok

[quiet oar]

No double on use is not good

[hard garnet]

Didn’t realise it was on use

Thanks for the info guys I’ll mess around with sims when I get home!

[grim jay]

Wait am I tripping or

How can you "afford" tw gear

Is there now a vendor?

[hard garnet]

I haven’t got the crests for the upgrade to 626

Unless it drops 6/6 Heroic

[grim jay]

Ah you mean the upgrades, alright

[rancid lake]

Guys should i omen craft me 2 Daggers or not

[grim jay]

No

[nova aspen]

1 stabber

[grim jay]

Unless you have everything else on mythic track but no mythic dagger

[nova aspen]

[rancid lake]

ah ok so better one craftet and one hero dagger than 2 636 daggers

instat i should craft me writs ir something

[grim jay]

No, but the value of the offhand dagger is really low

So virtually every other slot is better

[rancid lake]

Got it thank you very helpfull

[neat eagle]

Hi guys, i play Assa rogue RN and what is your recomendations for crafting?
BC on Wowhead it is a belt and wrist / Icy veins told me it is Boots and wrists, can you help me whats is the bet when?

[quiet oar]

I prolly would only craft a dagger on 636

and use gilded crest for upgrading mythi track

(if you can get them)

[grim jay]

Ye just get a 636 dagger

Do the pvp quest

Craft 2 embellishments on 610

[quiet oar]

You lose 30 Crest by crafting

[neat eagle]

this is my gear rn

[quiet oar]

in comparison to upgrading a mythic track to 636

[neat eagle]

so dagger is the best option then?

[quiet oar]

yes

[grim jay]

Ilvl on mh always the best

[slim pebble]

MH dagger upgrade is almost always the best

[neat eagle]

okey nice cool cool

[grim jay]

Pvp quest to get more crafts on 610, so you can do wrist belt with embellishments

[neat eagle]

thanks i try to switch from warrior and i want to make it strongest as possible 😄

[grim jay]

Then use crests on other slots

[neat eagle]

and you talking about Weakly pvp quest?

[grim jay]

No there is one hidden quest

For winning 1 epic rndbg

[woven shore]

when is weekly maintance ?

[neat eagle]

where?

[grim jay]

Well its hidden

It pops up if you win

[neat eagle]

ah okey soo i just win one epic and that's all

[gray briar]

What embelishment to craft into weapon? Assa Rouge 99% m+ / 1% Raiding
Or nothing and double Dawnthread Lining ?

[quiet oar]

619 crafts are worht it

aslong as you dont ahve 613 items

[spice surge]

Either ascendance or nothing with dawnthreads, or lense

[quiet oar]

crafting 619 is even or cheapre than upgrading with runed

[spice surge]

It doesnt really matter

[grim jay]

Idk about that the 610s are free either way

[spice surge]

Theyre all equally shit

[grim jay]

And take no time at all

Just like the free 619 craft item

[quiet oar]

Ye but crafted jewelry saves gold

and stats

[gray briar]

ascendance seems so less active ....

[spice surge]

Like ye ascendance might be 0.1-0.2% better in raid and dawn might be 0.1-0.2% better in keys

[gray briar]

uf ok

[spice surge]

But in actual play and not in simc it has literally no impact

[grim jay]

Saving gold in 2024

[rotund oak]

german ppl smh

[gray briar]

im really getting confused now. on rio, ppl stack the same gem.... and the tooltipp isnt very clear (maybe game translation to my language is bad too)

Do we stack the gemclass or do we try get one of each gem class^^

[quiet oar]

I think it depends on gear

[gray briar]

but for the effect of the blaspemit?

[quiet oar]

Like

my sim tells me

to only use 3 colors

[woven shore]

When are servers down

[quiet oar]

Because Vers isnt worth it

[spice surge]

It doesnt really matter

[grim jay]

Wdym

[woven shore]

[quiet oar]

difference between 4 colors and only using one

[woven shore]

fuugin rog

[prime hull]

Should I use my 2 minute cooldowns in intermission on Silken Court? I am using transmitter and it is difficult to pick up the orb there, and maybe the cooldowns are more damage if I wait until I can cleave both bosses.

[woven shore]

s

[quiet oar]

is 0.1-0.2%

maybe

Because if you stack one you already cover 2/4 colors

[marble hemlock]

Worth it for 8% movespeed

[grim jay]

The orb always spawns at the same direction so you can just place it better

[quiet oar]

Thats what an Momentum Scroll enjoyer would say

[marble hemlock]

People playing the crit gem are trolling imo

[royal lantern]

just sim it like all other gems

[marble hemlock]

On rogue its kind of defensible still, but on most classes 8% movespeed is so huge

[royal lantern]

i put both in the sim, sim said crit gem better, so im using the crit gem

[quiet oar]

Im a Simple man, i do as the Bot guides

[grim jay]

Did you play any of those classes in r1 territory or how can you have an opinion

[soft shale]

oh no

[marble hemlock]

I did actually

[spice surge]

Ye slower classes like priests its absolutely criminal to not use the movespeed one

[marble hemlock]

L+Bozo

[royal lantern]

yes

[woven shore]

i dont understand what happened here on NW flesh

[grim jay]

I was memeing, dont hit me

[woven shore]

but it looks good

[quiet oar]

He did + L + Bozo + Backpaddling with your Statement + didnt ask+ you are qt

[woven shore]

who?

[quiet oar]

Davyn

[grim jay]

Im too old for L+Bozo

[marble hemlock]

i played assa in m+ before it became cool, yall just copycats

[woven shore]

no who asked

HAHAHAH got yOU

[grim jay]

Same actually but I was even more casual than I am rn

[woven shore]

[quiet oar]

Nah´, i really thought you didnt know who i meant. I mean you are the guy who cant loot the right trinkets

so my expactions were low

[woven shore]

motherfucker

[woven shore]

i swear to god dude

this week

i will get mythic track

and then i will lose it

completly

i literally payed someone 300k for it

because i was mental drained

[quiet oar]

When i get a second Myth Track Skardyns

[woven shore]

i played until 12am

and shit

[quiet oar]

im sending you the screenshot

dont worry

[woven shore]

i will send you a dick pick if u do that

i dare you sir

[quiet oar]

Is this a threat

or a motivation

[woven shore]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

depends

[quiet oar]

Sending a ragebait + free dick pic

[woven shore]

on how you feel about it

lmfao

FREE DICK PICK

LOOOOOOOOL

Real life ROG dick

[copper sun]

Why are Haste/Vers simming higher for me than Crit/Mastery? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xptnPAmQm7PBCBvJdbJhw9

Am I doing something wrong?

[woven shore]

bc you probably have too much of one stat

and now getting higher means you need WAY more

for %

so the others give more

i think thats why

dk tbh

[quiet oar]

You mean gems?

[woven shore]

no crit mastery is bis

thats what he means

[pliant remnant]

[spice surge]

Brother

Theres like 120 combination that all sim the same

[quiet oar]

[spice surge]

It doesnt matter

[pliant remnant]

Yeah, but haste/vers are supposed to like stop us from doing any damage whatsoever or?

[spice surge]

Pick whatever you feel like

[pliant remnant]

Why's his sim not showing them at 0 DPS

[gray briar]

Offhabd is only stats right? No dps increase (besindes that value that normal stats would give?

[spice surge]

It does increase the damage of your regular white hits

But its incredibly minor

And the stats on it is less than any other slot

So its the least important slot

[quiet oar]

It doesnt increase my Mutilate off-ahdn dmg