assassination

[cinder quartz]

people inventing scenarios to piss off whispyr

[spice spire]

Hello from the other side

[proper hare]

i just sim and go what spec is better for me atm

[cinder quartz]

end since KB is a backloaded damage ability

[young dust]

depends on how much priority the target has. If he's pulling mobs into a lavabender from GB, for example, save it

[coral ibex]

i play assa because pressing mutilate and envenom still gives my brain the fuzzies 16 years later

[orchid wind]

like at the end of the first boss of sv, our tank usually pull the right pack into left one, should i just stay stealth ? and let all of em gather, or i just ambush and dot ?

[cinder quartz]

i play assa because i'm too stupid for sub

[vast loom]

imo sub is pretty simple now

[bright charm]

sub is yucky

[vast loom]

lots of just bs/ss evis

[coral ibex]

i tried to read the sub wowhead guide and they started talking about "second finishers" and i closed the tab

godless behavior

[young dust]

i'd wait until the mobs are ALMOST together, so you manage to spread your second rupture and second garrote with indiscriminate carnage still up

[cinder quartz]

if you stick me in front of a dummy i'll play sub decently

but put me in a boss environment and it'll be some spaghetti for a bit

[orchid wind]

yeah thats what i thought, but freakin hell, if there is like a arcane mage or a ret in gp

i get no time to do these stuff xD

[cinder quartz]

need some higher keys

[orchid wind]

yeah i guess 12's are trash now after nerfs

[royal lantern]

mate i dont even pay for raidbots lmao

leeching it from a friend like a good man

[cinder quartz]

🍌

[cinder quartz]

we used some random dudes login for 2 years, then it finally ended last month, so now i pay the minimum and gave info to guildies

also yoinked liquidreminders

[vast loom]

reported

[nimble tartan]

reported

[vestal wren]

reported for reporting

[proper hare]

!wa

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[past panther]

!wa

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[misty thicket]

in dungeons my caustic spatter isnt top damage its always equal with envenom, any solution for that?

[spice spire]

Pull bigger or toss a mut up esrlier

Whichever the issue is

[true estuary]

if you do content and you dont plan to use damage potions, is it more useful to use flask of mastery instead of chaos?

[coral ibex]

r2 tempered potions arent that expensive

[true estuary]

humor me please

[balmy condor]

probably about the same tbh

would be character dependent I'd think

[royal lantern]

but honestly, and idk if that sound rude

but if you dont plan on using combat pots, why even care about flask minmaxing

[hexed frost]

I can do 2.2M overall and still have splatter and envenom within 1% of each other

My envenom crits for 10M, so it's understandable I guess

[spice spire]

Sounds like you have a case of too much DN

Damn

[hexed frost]

When I first saw that I that no way kek

But it also means fatter juicier spatter

So hell yeah

[solar orbit]

damn, I have a difference of about 4%

[spice spire]

[solar orbit]

caustic being higher

also wtf 10m envenoms

[hexed frost]

My highest spatter tick was around 4M

[royal lantern]

DN envenom during Shiv +DM with amp poison hits HARD

[hexed frost]

Let me find the log

[royal lantern]

if it high rolls, yeha you can see those numbers

[final orbit]

guys, I haven't played rogue since forever, which WA pack you can recommend?

[coral ibex]

also could be transmitter proc for massive main stat boost

[spice spire]

Buddy I’m about to gif you hard with my dn

[stable cove]

is it ideal to keep up ct in 2 target

[spice spire]

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[spice spire]

Yes

If talented

[coral ibex]

yes CT 2+

[stable cove]

sadge

[final orbit]

thank you

[stable cove]

ok ty

[coral ibex]

anyone else feel like mut is better cp/energy at 2 targets vs fok? or am i cooked

[keen spruce]

[civic niche]

!up

[prisma monolith]

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[hexed frost]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fzhBmD9xQM7wynra#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=7

9 mists

Necrotic is only dungeon where spatter damage is through the roof

Even stonevault and dawnbreaker has both envenom and spatter within 1-2% of each other

But I run with pugs, so a coordinated group and do splatter maxing for full rogue enjoyment

[glass obsidian]

hi guys what should be my target haste for m+?

[pliant remnant]

Above 0 and below infinity

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

there is no target

(and they dont exists in general, but dont tell that some classes or they will tell you how 2% crit makes a 4000000dps difference)

[storm hedge]

I broke my mythic raid unluck and got a 93 parse on rashanan. feels good

[glass obsidian]

ty

[true estuary]

Because I dont have much gold and i am lazy to farm for herbs to craft pots and i can easily get 2 flasks to boost my damage for 4 hours. In short - im lazy and cheap but still want to help as best as possible

[queen cosmos]

whats the reasoning between the different talent choices for kyveza?

[spice surge]

They all sim very close

Play whatever you prefer/whatever sims best to you

[queen cosmos]

vicius venoms kinda bad because you lose uptime from staying out i guess? so we go for more poison damage?

[late tusk]

!wa

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[ornate gazelle]

!commands

[late tusk]

Ayh Symbobot 1 - Orckfeller 0

you done mate

[ornate gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-say-what-huh-sorry-gif-13287152

anyone know offhand if there's a command for the feint spreadsheet

[bronze pike]

[spice surge]

There is no feint spreadsheet

[ornate gazelle]

oh i've seen one that shows like all the stuff that's feint-able, must not have been here

at the start of the xpac

[gentle aurora]

everything is feintable if you're playing elusiveness 😉

[spice spire]

This hasn’t existed since shadowlands (here anyway)

[gentle aurora]

does anyone know if our Mythic build has changed for keys 12+? i.e. are we still playing sudden demise and stoof

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-bestie-so-true-so-true-bestie-neco-arc-bestie-gif-25532855

[spice spire]

Why would it change

[keen spruce]

It would if u updated it

Chop chop cheese dispenser

[gentle aurora]

obv the 10% bleed damage is huge but the rest of the talent is beginning to feel low value idk

was just curious - also because other assa rogues seem to be better than me on bosses so was wondering if ppl were trying arterial precision or smethin

[past bobcat]

Sin almost beating sub on silken

Don't have to swap back to sub lmao

[jaunty matrix]

quick question about raid

has anyone tested if we apply spatter on bloodhorror if it damages the adds ?

or are they out of range

[spring sigil]

Is it worth for me to omen craft a belt?

[jaunty matrix]

they probably are but figured i should ask

[spring sigil]

still got a damn champion belt, only champion item left

[jaunty matrix]

in the wowhead bis list belt and wrist are the crafted items

[proven jasper]

Out of range

[solar orbit]

was that the only boss were sub was performing better?

[jaunty matrix]

sadge but expected

thanks

[cobalt sphinx]

[spice spire]

Yes but if you hit the adds like you spatter the boss

[cobalt sphinx]

buy a 629 socketed belt off the AH

[spice spire]

Because boss hit box is insane

[jaunty matrix]

wtf

[warm shard]

Is treacherous transmitter actually a lot worse than Skardyn’s? I haven’t had luck with skardyns drops but the transmitter minigames feel easy

[cobalt sphinx]

pick some flowers blud

[spice spire]

1.5 on 2m class feels bad

But it’s comparable enough

[spring sigil]

Is it actually worth buying one though

[warm shard]

But I do the same as with skardyns and just macro it to death mark

[spring sigil]

can't upgrade

[cobalt sphinx]

you can

[spring sigil]

will replace fairly quick

[spring sigil]

Wait

you can upgrade

wtf

The ones i've seen on ah you can't. Or is it buggy tooltip?

[cobalt sphinx]

probably just an auction house visual thing

[spring sigil]

Oh shit

i might just buy one then

it's crit/vers tho right?

[cobalt sphinx]

it is yeah and the catalyst is 900 vers 600 haste so not a whole lot prettier

[slate crown]

Vers is fine

I bought one with a socket

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah it's all the same anyway

same HAHA

me and LE are highrollers

[slate crown]

But I’m also loaded so I have the money to spend

[spring sigil]

Bought one xD

[jaunty matrix]

the champion belt i have currently sims higher than the mythic boe from ah

[spring sigil]

got 500k from selling raid mount other day

[jaunty matrix]

[spring sigil]

So i have Omen crafted main hand weapon, what else would is recommended

is it wrists?

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah wrist boots or maybe cape whichever is lowest and/or hardest to acquire as far as i know

cape can drop 639 in the raid though

[orchid wind]

i forget which target i'm having Death stalker mark on sometimes, is there anything i can do to fix it ? or just get better

[zealous wolf]

!wa

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[jaunty matrix]

the boe belt is an upgrade only on max ilvl

619 vs 639

[spring sigil]

it's taken me to 622 itlvl overall

so very pleased

[desert musk]

I change the color of the nameplate with plater on marked target

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah i think i'm using cev's plater and he gives a faint purple border to the marked target

[tawny pawn]

!bis

[prisma monolith]

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character

[lime delta]

why is crimson tempest being used on 1 target by sim

[spice spire]

Howdy

[simple violet]

So come 11.0.5 we are losing the following buttons... tea, echoing, and slice and dice correct?

[spice spire]

Because you use it with momentum of despair if talented

[spice surge]

Tea is still a thing

[spice spire]

Tea is still a button

Other two is yet

[slate crown]

Eleem beat you to it

Just thought I’d let you know

[simple violet]

i thought tea was automatic after you dip below 30%.. also are we using that side of the talent tree come patch?

[reef oxide]

its both

[strong wing]

whats a good 3rd crafted?

[reef oxide]

auto use when low and can press

which honestly is kind of annoying, theres plenty of times we drop to low energy and dont want to press tea

[spice surge]

Its the same as now, but it ALSO pops when you drop below 30 energy

Not 30%

[west crown]

!wa

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[simple violet]

so tea is still the go to talent? Id think subterfuge would be better

[reef oxide]

usually when re applying bleeds

sin kinda needs tea, i cant see us dropping it

it would be so cancer to play with out it in ST

[hallow patrol]

Do you guys prefer the blood or hybrid build ?

[coral ibex]

hybrid for sure

anything above heroic dungeons do hybrid

[hollow berry]

Is it surprising that Dagger Ascension and Writhing Band Wrist sims better than 2x dawnthread for me on dungeonslice?

[past panther]

hybrid always unless raiding in ST

[young dust]

i can see it happening depending on your secundaries. Wouldnt worry too much about it though, they're very close

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657323960496553985/1289169185775292459/CatGlassOfWater1.gif

[past panther]

how is everyone today

[shy pecan]

Get rekt

[young dust]

thinking about my cape on vault tomorrow

[heavy canopy]

I’m really excited for my Skardyn’s Grace in vault tomorrow!

[coral ibex]

i gotta kill some bosses to get my nerubar finery

[past panther]

ive been blessed with good faults but terrible m+ loot

[keen spruce]

Kinda stinky just got home from the gym

[raven egret]

IT EXISTS

[past panther]

this vault will have my first myth track item so im excited

[keen spruce]

[past panther]

do yall bind skardyns to your kingsbane macro since deathmark doesn’t scale with mastery or just with dm?

[raven egret]

DM always, its 2m CD

last 20s

[proven jasper]

the bleeds/poisons it duplicates scale with mastery no?

[raven egret]

DM lasts 16 s, so Skardyn covers the entire duration of both CD and then some

[spice spire]

Wdym deathmark doesn’t scale with mastery

Huh

[past panther]

I don’t think the duplicated bleeds off of DM scales from mastery

i thought i read that in a bug list

[pliant remnant]

Having fun in my favourite video game today

[spice spire]

Dm itself is also a bleed.

[proven jasper]

Why would they not

[raven egret]

^ that and it doesnt matter, like I said Skardyn covers the entire duration of both CDs either way

[past panther]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1280662467952902185/image.png?ex=66d8e55d&is=66d793dd&hm=c5812462f0d0ad88668ba995ba6b4d517e95d5560ba362b5991f7066d3472957&=&format=png&quality=lossless&width=810&height=588 oh nvm it says resolved

im on 3 hrs of sleep don’t mind me

[proven jasper]

Thats just talking about the deathmark bleed itself

[young dust]

literally no reason not to skardyns on DM

[proven jasper]

Which does 0 dam anyways

[past panther]

Oh oki

either way then

deathmark makes sense

[proven jasper]

Ye

[past panther]

not like ill ever see that mythical, elusive trinket

[past panther]

you’re a menace

spot farming something i assume?

I would just brick my own key at that point and hope it lands on a nice number like 7 or 8 or 4

[pliant remnant]

tfw you try to get invited into a single 12 with all 11s timed

[past panther]

oh you’re doing big kid stuff

[young dust]

i gave up

[past panther]

im just now breaking ground on 10’s

!up

[prisma monolith]

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[pliant remnant]

You need like a premade for it or something

[past panther]

none of the m+ drops myth track right?

[pliant remnant]

I listed a 12 and the queue is wild

[raven egret]

12s are just a different realm now, I think there should be 2 keys, Basic ones go 2-10, and Competetive keys you get after clearing first 10 in a seson go 2 to w/e and would be the 12+.

So many ou there think that a 12 is just a natural evolution over an 11, its not even close

[past panther]

ya my only few 10’s have been a 4-5 stack

[strange python]

do ds marks work with 2 rogues in raid now or

still fucked

[young dust]

627, 5/8M with all 11s timed and i dont get invites as well

[pliant remnant]

It's all like 3 stacks who already have some timed 12s

[past panther]

is the jump really that drastic?

that’s wild

[pliant remnant]

The sweats have all been compressed so tight together with this dog-ass new affix system

[strange python]

what poisons are best to use>?

[pliant remnant]

so the competition in queues is just insurmountable as a solo rogue

[grim jay]

Its a really good system tho

Its how it shouldve been to begin with

[raven egret]

yeah its a different game at 12+, really should be its own separate key rating to reduce confusion

[shy pecan]

!poisons

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[grim jay]

Idk. Its imo exactly what I expected, even if the jump probably shouldnt actually be that hard for 1 key level

Making it 2 systems is kinda over the top

[strange python]

ty!

[spring sigil]

For how much this game LOVES giving me siege keys

i still don't have a spyglass lmfao

[spice spire]

Rekt

[grim jay]

Same, literally had 4 Sieges this week, but I also dont want a spyglass

[balmy prism]

is that list old? darkest night aboslutely gets consumed from echoing now

[spring sigil]

So go 76 harbringer crests now and only 1 crafed item. Better to craft a new item than upgrade my current hero gear?

Guess i should sim actually

[grim jay]

Indeed

It all depends on your other slots

[past panther]

It might be

it’s in the pins

[balmy prism]

oh yeah, it definitely was a bug up until like 2 weeks ago

[past panther]

i only came back right on TWW launch after not playing any on pre patch or DF so im still catching up

[balmy condor]

forgot to delete that pin

whoops

I mean uh

what pin

[balmy prism]

hmm

[balmy condor]

[past panther]

hehehe

does sin have any major bugs left

or is it only the neglect adhd brother outlaw

[balmy condor]

just the dsm mark bug with darkest night

where you can't consume stacks while darkest night is up

there's some numerical stuff but nothing impactful gameplay

[shy pecan]

[balmy prism]

doomers hate it

cant blame shit on bugs rn

[keen spruce]

Classic Whispyr

[grim jay]

Vhypsir is known for his sandbagging

[balmy condor]

everything is reported and simming as it should

what do you want from me man

I'm not gonna confuse people with minor number errors on spells

[grim jay]

Cant tell in a public channel

[balmy condor]

or random whitelist shit that no one cares about

like when they added kingsbane/envenom to tier, it was 4 days of "tier didn't buff envenom or kingsbane?????" in here

if you can't tell, does it matter?

it's good enough if the simc/tc people and blizzard know

and if it gets fixed it gets fixed

and if it doesn't who cares

[grim jay]

Most people dont care unless it negatively impacts them like the er bug anyways

[west crown]

its weird that DM is still applied just can't be used until DN expires

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean whitelist stuff is the worst

like I doubt most people know that envenom is affected by zoldyck

or that poison bomb spatters

but it doesn't actually matter for any decision people would ever make

[grim jay]

Its what I'd expect it to do, but most people dont think of envenom as a poison really

[balmy condor]

so it's just pointless stuff

[grim jay]

But ye as you said, it changes nothing other than numbers

Which people dont even know if it should in the first place

[balmy condor]

number bugs unless it's abuseable or huge problems

I just kinda don't even talk about

and then maybe it gets fixed or not and I go "yeah that's a thing, number up/down" and we all move on

[grim jay]

There are so many people that dont even know of flensing

[subtle tundra]

bro

chopin piano

is so good

[grim jay]

A what

[zinc warren]

True

[subtle tundra]

classic music

[grim jay]

Classic music as art is good

But I personally wouldnt really listen to it while playing or smth

[subtle tundra]

its fully classic music for queen ansurek prog

[timid thistle]

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[soft shale]

i have a grizzly hills nostalgia bait

because i have the original collector's edition cd with the OST

[soft shale]

remember it took them almost 7 years to fix that one?

like oh wait this shit not work?

ERNESTO RIQUELME EXPLAIN

[strange python]

do you guys have a macro for shadow step and no attack

[limber lion]

#showtooltip
/cast Shadowstep
/stopattack

[strange python]

legend, thank you

[limber lion]

np

[lime delta]

is Cloak of Shadows supposed to give immunity to [Heaving Retch] spit attack first boss in NW?

[spice surge]

Only for the first second

Or well yes its supposed to

But it only works for the first second

[lime delta]

what why only the first

[manic quartz]

i believe you can evasion it

[lime delta]

I did

but then he targets me again

and I cloak

and it one shots me

[manic quartz]

yeah doesnt work on the spit

[lime delta]

what is the play then as a rogue do I just drop dead?

[cobalt sphinx]

just intervene i

[manic quartz]

feint? its aoe i believe?

[cobalt sphinx]

evasion dodges it

you can parry it

and it can be intervened

[lime delta]

intervened as in a tank warrior spell? sorry Im not very savvy

[soft shale]

you should be able to survive it with elu unless you are not very geared

or get a external even after using evasion and cloak

but if boss targets you 3 times

there are other problems

[manic quartz]

not even close says feint works on it but idk

[soft shale]

no you need elu

feint does not work

[manic quartz]

ah

[soft shale]

tbh as rogue not playing elu in 12+ is a bit of an int even at 10 im playing elu

dots HURT

[lime delta]

I have the same problem with being targeted 3x times in a row by the abomination before 3rd boss

[soft shale]

cloak is never enough

you will also die by throw meat

if you dont use elu and feint or evasion

[manic quartz]

yes i love how much throw flesh fucking hurts 😄

[soft shale]

there is no if you get hit twice you are dead

[waxen oyster]

prot warrior is nice for that

[lime delta]

what is it about it only working during 1st second of cloak tho is there some hidden tooltip?

[waxen oyster]

they also magic shield you

after intervening

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah intervene works

he intervened it off me and the monk

[manic quartz]

can you bop it ?

[cobalt sphinx]

it's nature

[waxen oyster]

1st sec of cloak

is true magic immunity

says on the tooltip

[cobalt sphinx]

i got casually one-shotted for 8m damage

what a cool and nice mechanic

[spice surge]

Because for some reason cloak is technically stronger for the first second, so occasionally there are mechanics that you can only immune with the first second of it

Spells from 2005

[manic quartz]

"Provides a moment of magic immunity, instantly removing all harmful spell effects. The cloak lingers, causing you to resist harmful spells for 5 sec."

[cobalt sphinx]

seems like rotspew's spew disease cannot be intervened though

yeah 1 second is your "moment"

[manic quartz]

We did 11 ara kara and my friend freedomed me during the pull when you stand on roots gg

😄

[static glacier]

!log review

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[static glacier]

how do I start a thread?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ayFT1ZCWkHLm73xh#type=summary&boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=1 is there any advice someone can give for the BL period? I have the far add assigned and i've been trying to optimise but step > kick on it failed on one pull bc it was too far but idk what else to do

is it an angle to start dm earlier?

[daring hamlet]

@balmy condor you end up figuring out who the dude was that was maintaining wowanalyzer

[balmy condor]

no clue

[balmy condor]

green+ in this channel

[strong wing]

What is this cook from eleem?

mythic kyveza

[snow kindle]

4 Pi

e z energy for vicious

[spice surge]

It just sims higher

[strong wing]

no resounding clarity

plus tiny toxic?

lol

im gonna sim it then im getting pi also

[spice surge]

I didnt sim PI

Its not like its +100k dps, theres like 50 combinations that are all within like 0.2-0.3%

[spice spire]

[runic hinge]

No bait and switch I know what’s going on here

[cobalt sphinx]

Yeah but does it sim higher than fatebound

[balmy condor]

@spice surge what are you cooking bro A BUILD THAT SIMS HIGHER FOR YOUR CHARACTER AND DOESNT SIM HIGHER FOR OTHER PEOPLE?

[worthy axle]

Why does the quick sim show crimson tempest on ST sim for the damage breakdown? I ran the sim w/ M+ talents to see what I should be aiming for dps wise in keys.

[balmy condor]

cause it's very slightly better

[worthy axle]

oh, when I searched chat someone said not to CT ST*

Did that change recently?

Mainly trying to figure out if I am missing something ST wise or if my ilvl (604) is just holding me back.

Doing about 1.2m ish overall and then 700-800k ST

But that's only in 7s

[molten flicker]

your ilvl is holding your bag

[cobalt sphinx]

That seems normal

[worthy axle]

Gotcha guess im just second guessing myself cuz the last tank I was with sent me this

[cobalt sphinx]

You only really ct on st with the fok crit buff but i don’t think that’s gonna make or break your damage

[worthy axle]

Even though we had 1 death the whole key

[cobalt sphinx]

Lol

Do you not know the mechanics though

[worthy axle]

I mean I have a 2600 monk

I like to think I do

[molten flicker]

he is right

mechanics first dps second

in most places

[worthy axle]

I didnt die tho or take excessive dmg so I really dont know what he was talking about

I was also above the other 2 dps

Guess ppl just be ppl

[molten flicker]

I feel like 1.2m overall with 600 ilvl is very high

[cobalt sphinx]

You can still troll a run even when nobody dies

[worthy axle]

Thats fair, we +2 the 7 with 4mins over or something

so idk seemed like a clean run

[balmy condor]

doing +7's at 600 ilvl is crazy ngl

[cobalt sphinx]

The timer and details don’t say whether or not you trolled

The guy mightve just been talking out his ass though tbf

[molten flicker]

and in no world is 1.2m overall low dmg for a +7

[worthy axle]

That was the overall at the end

[balmy condor]

???????

that's better than most groups I see in 10's for vault

[molten flicker]

maybe your details is bugged

[steel geyser]

is this a tol dagor overall

[worthy axle]

overall

[cobalt sphinx]

Dragon parse

[balmy condor]

only thing I can think of is maybe like grim batol dragons aren't removed

[dapper cradle]

I love Grim Batol

[timid haven]

Yo! I have a question. Is the ascension chant the way to go for raid and keys? Or is it just raid? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[steel geyser]

just raid

[molten flicker]

ye I mean it's what I'm doing in 10+ dungeons with 620 gear

[balmy condor]

raid yes, keys maybe

[timid haven]

Right now I'm using the crit one for both

[molten flicker]

tbf I don't have myth weapon but still

[balmy condor]

sure

that's fine too

you're running dawnthread, so you're getting like 2.2% in m+ and 2% in raids

if you ran ascendance with the band you're get 2% in m+ and 2.2% in raids

true

okay bye then

[molten flicker]

small wigs

[balmy condor]

colored wigs

[timid haven]

Got ya. So they are close

[balmy condor]

they're close in the same way dogshit and horseshit are close

it's all shit

[timid haven]

Lmfao

[balmy condor]

embellishments and enchants this expansion are just a big question of "which meaningless extra nonsense do I want"

you could take some embellishment no one uses

and it would be like 0.6% worse

who cares

ya know

[dapper cradle]

[worthy axle]

How do we use vanish in the opener? Just refresh the initial garrote and then sync it with Deathmark / KB next time?

[timid haven]

Got ya. Does this apply to flasks also? Or just alchemical?

[balmy condor]

yeh just use chaos

[balmy condor]

yes

[worthy axle]

Ty

[balmy condor]

sync to dm

[timid haven]

Got it. Thank you

[balmy condor]

imp gar doesn't do anything for kb

but yeh

[worthy axle]

oh I just meant the overlap

[molten flicker]

do we pandemic the imp gar with normal gar or does it change the dmg?

[warped kiln]

Hey guys, can you told me if in single target , you ignore the proc of fan of knifes ?

[quartz osprey]

The clear the witness one?

[warped kiln]

ya

[balmy condor]

changes damage

pandemic moves duration only

damage is calculated from new application

so normal -> improved is good

improved -> normal is not

[molten flicker]

right

and improved > improved?

[balmy condor]

are you talented into vicious venoms

[warped kiln]

y

[balmy condor]

that's just like normal -> normal

[balmy condor]

then don't fok

[warped kiln]

okok thanks ❤️

[dapper cradle]

What the fok did you say?

[molten flicker]

ye I meant to say that we do use the vanish garrote to pandemic the ongoing one from pull

[dapper cradle]

[balmy condor]

yep

[molten flicker]

can weakauras track that?

it's simple enough to remember but still

[balmy condor]

you need some custom code to handle it

but it is possible yes

!most

[hardy prairie]

how tf do we survive heaving wretch from first boss in NW?

[balmy condor]

wow my brain lagged

!wa

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[balmy condor]

most of these have it

can pull it from them

LE's collection has a standalone already I think

[molten flicker]

I'm using your edit already

[balmy condor]

cloak, evasion, feint

[balmy condor]

then it's already built in

[hardy prairie]

do i need elusiveness?

[balmy condor]

the blue border

[balmy condor]

in any key higher than 11 yeh

[molten flicker]

I'll look for it next time

😄

[balmy condor]

you can also cloak it, but it has to be the first second of cloak

cause the game sucks

[hardy prairie]

in that case do i need cloak+feint or just one

[balmy condor]

cloak immunes it

[cobalt sphinx]

Intervene works

[molten flicker]

can't control the warrior though

[balmy condor]

just do follower dungeon instead

WARRIOR CONTROLLED

[cobalt sphinx]

if your warrior can't intervene it then you're safe to hearth out

[balmy condor]

I mean you really shouldn't need the intervene

elusiveness/bait and switch is enough

if you get a second time it's feint+external, or cloak

[spice spire]

Super cloak time baby

[woven shore]

how does pooling looks like

[spice spire]

Gotta time it well

[warped kiln]

question is, why the fk did he used 0 vanish in the fight ????

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-pool-chill-flamingo-gif-22586025

[balmy condor]

he doesn't have improved garrote

why would he

[warped kiln]

oh sht u right

[spice spire]

He dropped mark on an ST boss

Vanish necessary

[spice surge]

I did use it prepull

[spice spire]

Pissed

Vomiting rn

[balmy condor]

I am your biggest hater

[spice surge]

Because im a cheeky rascal that fokked the brazier to get combo points so i could pre-snd

[spice spire]

Impossible

[woven shore]

sooo i stopped spending energy on kb 8sec cd i think

[spice spire]

Seek help bestie

[cobalt sphinx]

it hits like 9 mil

[woven shore]

is 11m on 2 casts of kb okay ?

[balmy condor]

sure

[woven shore]

1,5minutes

combat

[cobalt sphinx]

elusiveness is gonna be cutting it close on a 9 mil hit

[spice spire]

[woven shore]

when do i start pooling

[spice spire]

Fleshcraft would save me

[dapper cradle]

I try to never dip below 300 energy

[dapper fractal]

is there a fkin WA to mute the affix bitch?

im so tired of hearing the voice

[spice spire]

Whenever you’re fry and outside of CDs

[woven shore]

how can i record shit

[cobalt sphinx]

inevitably

the void will consume you

or whatever it is she says

i like how "inevitably" doesn't show up in the chat

so you only see the second line in the chat log

[uneven ibex]

Can someone explain to me the logic behind >80% top parsing rogues taking impar/sang on Sikran? I have identical stats, trinks and vv Sims higher so why ppl play impar/sang? Is there a relationship between short periods of downtime (like swirlies and dropping clones) and impgarr/sang >

Feel like I'm missing something

[spice surge]

It sims higher for them

Or they like it more, or a mix of the two

Its within like 0.5% anyway so its completly irrelevant

[cobalt sphinx]

they probably just copied wowhead and stuck to it or copied wcl and stuck to it

[uneven ibex]

So >80% people play the more difficult pooling build because they like it ? 🧐

[woven shore]

soooo

is it normal that i dont hit 50 stacks on kb

even with pooling

its rng bc poison right?

from aa

[balmy condor]

yeh I mean on a 14 it gets hairy I guess

with atrophic 9.7%

[maiden sparrow]

Is vulpera rogue bis yet?

[pliant remnant]

thankfully, no

[rotund hornet]

Hey guys is Caustic Spatter your first source in m+ overall?

[balmy condor]

pretty regularly the top for me yeah

[spice spire]

Depends on a lot

[cobalt sphinx]

envenom will be higher in a log because it combines envenom+poison bomb on WCL

[spice spire]

If envenom is top by like

Several %

Then yeah

[cold sparrow]

Hello, another dumb question: For Raid, when not talented into impr garrote / shrouded suffocation, what do we use vanish for? Just for ambush when we dont have blindside? 😅

[cobalt sphinx]

details you should have caustic higher with those two damage sources split

[spice surge]

Nothing

Ambush isnt better than mutilate

[novel dragon]

Any trinkets to snag from TW Ulduar?

[cobalt sphinx]

is that u in the pic shawty

[iron valve]

gross

[iron valve]

also safety net for if deathstalker's mark gets borked

[cobalt sphinx]

tw trinkets should be worse than the good m+ trinkets at the same level but it's good for gearing out undergeared alts

[cold sparrow]

Oh ok lol 🤣 , thanks!
And can we somehow cheese the spider-web mechanic during rashanan fight?

[iron valve]

kologarn drops Wrathstone, which is pretty good but won't be high ilevel

[keen reef]

!wa

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[novel dragon]

I mean they're champion track so 619 ain't too shabby if they're competitve trinkets

[balmy condor]

wrathstone is okay

[woven shore]

does raidbots count in energy pooling

[balmy condor]

but champ track ain't gonna cut it

[balmy condor]

of course

would be pretty strange for the sim to not play the suggested way

[rotund hornet]

ok im doing shit then...

[dapper cradle]

Huge m queen tuning on reset

[rotund hornet]

crimson tempest first source overall (in +10)

[balmy condor]

that's a bit strange

[coral ibex]

someone yesterday was adamant the sim never pools

[dapper cradle]

Throw knife first

[cobalt sphinx]

it could depend on the pull size and key level. cot11 was caustic 13.9 and envenom 12.2, wake 11 was caustic 18.0 and envenom 11.2 because it has much bigger pulls

[balmy condor]

are you spamming it in aoe or something crazy?

[cobalt sphinx]

that is some big ct damage

[solar orbit]

What are we playing on ovinax?

Raid ST + Caustic?

[balmy condor]

I mean depending on the talent build it almost doesn't

but it follows the logic

[woven shore]

is pooling for around 150energy before a KB good ?

[balmy condor]

on mythic?

[woven shore]

or should be up higher

[solar orbit]

no, heroic

[balmy condor]

if you want to I guess

[balmy condor]

just single target and caustic is fine yeah

[woven shore]

what do you do whisp

[rotund hornet]

not spamming but it seems I do way too much

[woven shore]

when you pool

[solar orbit]

Does mythic have a variation?

[cold sparrow]

I used to have CT on top as well for my first few keys, but thats because I was overthinking bleeds and didnt get into CDs + envenom spam when caustic was up. Maybe that?

[balmy condor]

I max out envenom uptime

[woven shore]

so you just keep spamming

[balmy condor]

double the adds and the adds are way tankier and need to be gripped

[woven shore]

and dont pool

[balmy condor]

that's literally not what I said

[solar orbit]

So you play more closely to M+ hybrid build?

[balmy condor]

I max out envenoms uptime

[woven shore]

okay

[dapper cradle]

Random question, but what do you do with your envenom uptime @balmy condor ?

[solar orbit]

... more damage?

[arctic socket]

what type of question is that

[woven shore]

can you explain how this would look like ? i think im dumb as fuck

[solar orbit]

yeah lol

[balmy condor]

on mythic you'd play CT, something like this

[solar orbit]

Thanks!

[rotund hornet]

yeah I think thats totally my problem !

[balmy condor]

no clue

[woven shore]

also Whisp
the ovinax Talents on your Wowhead guide

are they also for mythic ovi

[balmy condor]

probably

[arctic socket]

[woven shore]

alr

[static glacier]

@balmy condor what's the gain for upkeeping ct on st?

[arctic socket]

@balmy condor idk how you procress some of these questions

[balmy condor]

yeah ovi'nax is ct on wowhead

[balmy condor]

I don't

[woven shore]

that

alr

[balmy condor]

just press it with adds

[dapper cradle]

Where is your throw knife?

Should be top 3

[static glacier]

ye but what's the gain? i remember you saying it's a gain even on st

[balmy condor]

oh

[woven shore]

i do

[balmy condor]

like 0.2% 0.3%

[static glacier]

aight bless

[spice spire]

Track momentum of despair innit

[rotund hornet]

it seems you there for helping huh

[cold sparrow]

Just do stealth > ambush (when no mark) otherwise garrote/rupture until all targets have bleeds or you are outside IC window and then do 1x CT and get into caustic KB > envenom spam. something like that.
Most packs just die before bleeds run out on 10

[solar orbit]

are you perhaps spamming CT?

[arctic socket]

pumpin

[dapper cradle]

Whisp redpilled me in his m+ guide about not spamming CT

Just do it once bro

And prio caustic cleave

[rotund hornet]

it was NW 10, a lot of big pull but caustic spatter should be higher so yeah

[cold sparrow]

Just re-apply CT during KB once (and caustic too) and then get back into envenom spam.

[arctic socket]

in the nw10 are the adds being killed quickly by other dps? if so CT will go higher

[hardy prairie]

so is it pretty typical that i cant beat rets in overall ?

[cobalt sphinx]

it can be close

[solar orbit]

why would you reapply ct during kb?

[arctic socket]

rets be pumpin

[rotund hornet]

thats what i was thinkin about

[woven shore]

alr i think i got it

[sharp viper]

@balmy condordo you fully grasp how TTK makes envenom buffs overlap in 11.0.5? do they still pandemic extend or is it just going to be multiple instances of envenom overlapping with individual times?

[woven shore]

time to blast the parses tomorrow

[cold sparrow]

Cause its a ton of dmg, 5 targets = 100% more CT dmg and with Sanguine Blades its op

[spice spire]

Think ironfur if you’ve played bear

[woven shore]

2m fight pooling on 10sec before kb if possible if bleed not running out

[arctic socket]

Those names

are wild

[woven shore]

so annoying to have to re-bleed while kb

[spice spire]

Coming from a mf named after a league character

Curious

[woven shore]

XD

[arctic socket]

you're named after the most mid soft drink

DIET

[spice spire]

Nvm I take it back

[cold sparrow]

• even the guide during CDs says to use CT, just look at the image again

[arctic socket]

gtdo

[coral ibex]

re-bleed before cds

[arctic socket]

gtfo*

[spice spire]

Georgia resident speaking

[dapper cradle]

[coral ibex]

pretty sure its less of a loss to rebleed early than to have to rebleed during kb window

[spice spire]

Also I dislike Diet Pepsi lol

[coral ibex]

but that's feelcraft

[spice spire]

It’s lore

[woven shore]

but then i wouldve to refresh out of this what is it called window again

to dot on the dot before expiering

[cold sparrow]

pandemic

[woven shore]

yes tx

is it worth to re dot before KB burst out of pandemic window

[spice spire]

If in pandemic

Otherwise nah

[woven shore]

okay

[solar orbit]

say I'm at 7cp on opener and I already applied garrote and rupture on all targets (due to bone spike) do I envenom or do I mutilate for caustic?

[lethal arrow]

CT

[cold sparrow]

^

[stiff quiver]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[solar orbit]

ofc, I'm dumb lol

[runic hinge]

Never had the Riley Reid soft drink

[slate crown]

I’m sorry I was being mean and you turned yourself into water I didn’t mean it

[balmy condor]

she is not mid she is a queen you take that back

[tall atlas]

Is dslice gucci for us still

[balmy condor]

yes

[sharp viper]

yes

[balmy condor]

[spice surge]

The image is decieving, he actually turned into diet pepsi

[balmy condor]

ECHOING REPRIMAND

[bleak spoke]

DIET PEPSI DE XIAO RONG

[woven shore]

whisp why er after garrot again ?

[balmy condor]

what

[bleak spoke]

wait whispyr i realized i never asked does singular focus spatter

[sharp viper]

energy and dot damage

[balmy condor]

it mutilates

[woven shore]

i believe on wowhead it showed amb gar er rup sad

[balmy condor]

no lmao

[bleak spoke]

damn

[balmy condor]

yeah for non imp gar builds

cause amb gar leaves you at 4

[bleak spoke]

give me runaway living bomb scaling madge

[sharp viper]

infinite damage!

[balmy condor]

I mean it very quickly tends to 0

[tall atlas]

Do you vanish to re im gar during dm

[dapper cradle]

Does kick spatter?

[woven shore]

i did this raidbot on not improved garrot

[balmy condor]

focus spatterring would do nothing

[tall atlas]

Yes

[woven shore]

why it showing me to rup at 4

[bleak spoke]

infinite in the way that there's an infinite amount of time in a second if you keep dividing it in half yeah

[balmy condor]

okay so then the ambush crit and landed you at 4, garrote to 5

[sharp viper]

yes

[woven shore]

ah okay

that explains

[balmy condor]

yeah

you know like

[sharp viper]

tiny feet are going to kick the targets around your spatter target for 40% of kicks effectiveness

[balmy condor]

the big yellow thing

[woven shore]

[slate crown]

[bleak spoke]

something that can be helpful if you're willing to do it is to crack open the html report, and read the sample iteration with all the conditionals on the side

[woven shore]

whisp says in his guide to jump off the window after rotation

[dapper cradle]

Feet

[sharp viper]

used to be 45% of a foot but that got nerfed

[balmy condor]

fan of kicks

[woven shore]

and i JUMP out

!

[bleak spoke]

and see why it's like making the decision it's making ish

but that's a lot of effort, and you should cross reference the rule that it highlights in the apl

[woven shore]

whisp says to alt f4 after using ER and i ALT F4!

[balmy condor]

you just alienated the bottom 97% of the community in one sentence

[woven shore]

you da boss

[bleak spoke]

yeah i know

i know i know

[balmy condor]

they can't read a big yellow banner on a sample sequence

they aren't gonna read apl big dawg

[bleak spoke]

tbh i kind of wonder if like

there's a deluxe sample sequence we cna generate

[woven shore]

i cant read

but i can blast

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-controversial-yet-so-brave-controversial-brave-gif-12046682

[woven shore]

[spice surge]

97% seems like a low estimate

[bleak spoke]

where it like points out like an important rule etc

like one that has a slick ui like the quick sim

but like it's like it's doing this, with this amount of combo points, in order to fulfill this rule etc

[neat laurel]

!wa

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[balmy condor]

yeah maybe something to guide the player to playing their spec

[bleak spoke]

but this is kind of a niche thing that would like

[balmy condor]

that would be cool

[bleak spoke]

i feel like most people barely want to know

[spice spire]

[gilded oasis]

you should make one

[spice spire]

Guides

[balmy condor]

like you could maybe just have like a place

[spice spire]

Good idea write that down

[bleak spoke]

wait real zar?

[balmy condor]

where someone who knows how the sim works

takes the info the sim spits out

and then maybe compiles it

[keen reef]

!wa

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[balmy condor]

into one place

[spice spire]

She’s fake actually

[gilded oasis]

is there a fake zar? its probably me

[bleak spoke]

@gilded oasis it me subbeam!

[gilded oasis]

YOOO

[balmy condor]

and then you can take that and then put it in the internet

[gilded oasis]

Sunbeam is still sunning

[balmy condor]

and everyone could read it

idk

might work

[south token]

insane ideas

[bleak spoke]

long time

[balmy condor]

sounds like a lot of effort

[gilded oasis]

whispyr stop yappin and make a guide

[sharp viper]

oh you lost me there

[gilded oasis]

ffs

[balmy condor]

maybe you would have to pay them

or something

depending how many people read it

you could make like a company

and then put ads on the page

[bleak spoke]

WHISPYR STOP IT

[balmy condor]

and then pay them

[bleak spoke]

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

[balmy condor]

from the ads

[bleak spoke]

[balmy condor]

I actually don't

[tall atlas]

Whispyr only fans for data compilation

[cobalt sphinx]

not funny

[bleak spoke]

just like a bit more info on the quick sim is what i mean

[balmy condor]

yeah

a guide

[bleak spoke]

like note the combo point/resources on the side

[south token]

thottbot

[balmy condor]

yeah

[bleak spoke]

etc

[balmy condor]

so a guide

[bleak spoke]

yeah

i guess

[tall atlas]

Yess

[dapper cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[tall atlas]

That’s an excellent reference

[balmy condor]

"ah yes this finisher is at least 5cp"

"ah yes, this darkest night envenom is 7cp"

[bleak spoke]

maybe just a guide with the same visual style as quick sim which is pretty decently intuitive to read

[balmy condor]

I wonder

[gilded oasis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif

[bleak spoke]

okay like you know for a fact that some of the wowhead guides aren't necessarily as well maintained as yours like

[balmy condor]

yeah maybe like a timeline or something

novel idea

[bleak spoke]

i was more hoping that something like this would exist for other specs etc i've been playing lots of alts recently

and i only get like niche rule explanations when i ask what's goin on with ppl who play it, like i'd say a bunch of specs are very clear etc lots of them are really not

[tall atlas]

Aw stop being so foreshadowing we get it

[balmy condor]

I ain't foreshadowing

I'm foreboding

and it's lettuce's head

[bleak spoke]

@gilded oasis have you been raiding and stuff

[spice spire]

Forebode dn buddy

[gilded oasis]

every tier sure have

[balmy condor]

have a nice 24 hours quake

[shy pecan]

What’s dn?

[tall atlas]

Do we still vanish imp gar on dm

[gilded oasis]

[severe sparrow]

i cant even get my questions answered in some other class discords

[spice spire]

Damn

[severe sparrow]

i stopped trying

[spice surge]

Dino Nuggets

[shy pecan]

Wow

[spice spire]

Darkest night

[balmy condor]

wishing you a pleasant life, at least until the sun rises again

[spice spire]

Ty for asking

[shy pecan]

Oh okay. I want some

[tall atlas]

Dick noose

[spice spire]

Ty king

[bleak spoke]

are you still with elusive or did you also escape

[spice surge]

The sun never sets on the english pepsi empire

[gilded oasis]

yes

probably

[spice spire]

Iykyk

[balmy condor]

the sun would need to come up in england in order for it to set

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

@glacial crypt knows

[tall atlas]

In Scotland it’s a myth

[gilded oasis]

Lol I left part way through Nyalotha I think. Was on MG for a while and just came back to ZJ

[spice spire]

[tall atlas]

We get 2 weeks of 20C and that’s summer

[spice spire]

Beckoning the br*tish

[balmy condor]

my good friend coodlemooefk

[tall atlas]

What happened to that Scottish rogue guy from shadowland

Infexious

[balmy condor]

he got a life

[tall atlas]

Who made the really misinformed guides

[spice spire]

Good for him

[bleak spoke]

i went to tich for a bit, ended up raiding with some of my m+ buddies, then i went to bleeding hollow, been with my guild for like a few years now, but i'm pretty much retired, i just show up on rat chars to help with splits i have so much raiding fomo though

[balmy condor]

had a kid

got a life

moved on

[tall atlas]

I miss him

[balmy condor]

played spriest for like 2 tiers

and then quit fully

[tall atlas]

Maybe I’ll see him walking about but I don’t go outside tbh

[gilded oasis]

lol rat king! This raid has been pretty fun over all I think. Hasn't been out long enough yet for me to hate life though

[sharp viper]

are ye a shadowpriest main?

[bleak spoke]

yeah i think this raid owns

[balmy condor]

you wanna prog ovi'nax for me then

[bleak spoke]

i swear across the board class design's better than it's ever been since i've been playing pretty much

[tall atlas]

Fuck that

[bleak spoke]

everyone seems so happy to play this tier in my guild

[tall atlas]

Had my first night tonight. Dunno how im gonna do it with the frame drops

[balmy condor]

your guild sounds like a bunch of cheerful people

[gilded oasis]

I re-did most my UI to help frames

worked out well

[balmy condor]

I hate them

[bleak spoke]

like even ppl who default complain nonstop about their class/spec etc seem to be having a good time

[balmy condor]

is plater/details set to max update

[tall atlas]

I just use naowh and zacs class ui

[balmy condor]

and have you checked this

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[bleak spoke]

^this helped me alot

[tall atlas]

Yes I have done the model thing baby

[balmy condor]

damn

you're so cute and on top of it

[proven jasper]

Damn zaddy

[tall atlas]

details is not max and plater I’ve not checked

[bleak spoke]

i play with afenar auras if i can get them by default pretty much and they all have the model line in them

[balmy condor]

this guy preps raid fights in advance for sure

[tall atlas]

So I’ll check that tomorrow

[bleak spoke]

low key that fight would be insanely good i think if the swirlies weren't the way they were

[tall atlas]

What am I looking for on plater

[tall atlas]

If they were a different colour

[strong wing]

Dont be mean my guy u ll make me sad :C

[severe sparrow]

im sad, i deleted the models from my dragonriding wa and didnt get any extra frames back

[balmy condor]

I love pinging eleem with shitposts though

[tall atlas]

He’s too busy being a rank 1 thot to care

[balmy condor]

@spice surge https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/838113932551258146/1288825001038053398/IMG_7903.jpg?ex=670efb11&is=670da991&hm=814bc9363f7c335c9bc202432845664b6e0d86e13bb90db6406ece6a30bbab4d&=&format=webp&width=889&height=889

[spice spire]

I love pinging @spice surge too

But for different reasons (he’s a swell guy)

[balmy condor]

(incredible swollen)

(like a bee sting)

[spice spire]

He’s so swole

[balmy condor]

he's swelled

[spice spire]

Man benches more than me damn

[spice surge]

Vibe based decision making

[balmy condor]

mut on 6 ain't my vibe

so I'm just gonna env

and try again later

[spice spire]

Ur so real for that

[spice surge]

Its just like a slot machine

[gilded oasis]

I personally like to mut on 7

[spice surge]

If you dont win, you just go again

[balmy condor]

yeah

it's not about generating to 7

[spice surge]

Get it twisted, you WILL WIN