assassination

[strange python]

Since attacking extends it

so could possilby go above 20 sec

[royal lantern]

it refreshes the timer

[vestal ravine]

has auto tricks broke for anyone?

[mild tiger]

is there a page to see our upcomming changes?

[grim jay]

Pins

[fickle fossil]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[subtle tundra]

am i tripping

or is ww dmg just dogass

in aoe

i swear nothing does any dmg

[grim jay]

Are you spinning?

[subtle tundra]

yes?

[grim jay]

Spreading marks?

Using CDs?

[subtle tundra]

buddy

[uneven summit]

do we have any numbers on difference in depths vs. radiant power?

[subtle tundra]

i know windwalker basics

i had title on it at some point xd

[grim jay]

Im just teasing you

[subtle tundra]

but rn i press buttons i look at dmg and its ???

[grim jay]

Yes, those your raidbots will tell you if you sim it

[uneven summit]

was thinking more in terms of overall stuff not char specific 😉

[grim jay]

Idk, I have yet to see my first windwalker in m+

[halcyon grail]

!consumables

[grim jay]

We dont do overall stuff

[subtle tundra]

me too LOL

[grim jay]

We all sim our chars

[grim jay]

Thought they must be pretty good if they are finally good in ST

But maybe they destroyed their aoe

[subtle tundra]

idk i press fists i press procs

i look at dps

in cds

and its ?!?!?

where is it

wheres the dmg

[next dust]

where can i find talents for each boss

raid

[grim jay]

Warcraft logs or wowhead

[late surge]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[minor charm]

anyone with a simple WA that tells me to SnD when I don't have it up? I'm just a dumdum and keep forgetting it

[zenith prairie]

Is there any reason to not craft chest 4th? If I dont have a mythic from my vault?

[neat smelt]

@subtle tundra i feel you, recently started dabbling into ww and not really seeing the damage, im of course not playing perfectly, but it still feels like it's very reliant on spin procs

[grim jay]

Yeah, if its not your best upgrade

[zenith prairie]

Yeah its simming highest I just wanted to make sure it wasnt something dumb

Plus its our off tier piece

[grim jay]

I mean you are only filling for mythic slots anyways

At this point

[zenith prairie]

Yeah I am

[grim jay]

So its pretty fine

For me its worse

Actually

[zenith prairie]

Just have to get a solid stat combo on vault myth which seems low %

[grim jay]

Bcs my chest is 626 and I still have crafted belt at 619 and boots at 619

[zenith prairie]

Yeah i crafted wep belt bracers

[silver escarp]

Hm.. Doesn't work at all wtf
I changed my bracer for the embelish that double nerubian too on the sim

[zenith prairie]

mine had chest/offhand wep #1 and #2

[grim jay]

Probably because you still didnt select a substitute for one of the other embellishments

You gotta have a slot without selected for both

[silver escarp]

OH FCK forgot about my belt

thanks xD

Oof a 3.7% upgrade on multi target is huge

[royal lantern]

uhm

we are on broodtwister prog

and our ww had to skill out of condouit because his AoE burst was too high

but idk in general?

[rich parrot]

its really worth to play with it ?

[royal lantern]

what is that

my french is a bit rusty

spyglass?

[rich parrot]

ahaha

y trinket uptime

[royal lantern]

it is a good trinket ye

in m+ its a bit worse overall

but for ST sacbrood/crystal/spyglass are more or less equal

[rich parrot]

okay ty

[young dust]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/s/wmhtmO20pX

[midnight atlas]

you cant have nice things in this game

all the snitches

[young dust]

should leave as it is just because of the creativity

[young dust]

are you guys trying to zerg it as well?

we managed to zerg it yesterday, destroying only one egg on last platform

[royal lantern]

Mate

we have a total of 2 1/2 prog hours on her

[grave osprey]

I’ll never see the GB trinket 🥲

[royal lantern]

we barely manage p1 lol

[young dust]

Oh

[faint vessel]

68 runs of 2-9s to get my champ one. thankfully took less than 10 sieges to get heroic deadeye

[young dust]

good luck, people missing interrupts is hella frustrating

[royal lantern]

i know

[grave osprey]

Yeah, i got lucky with spyglass, i got that one early.

[young dust]

then you ask them and they dont even use a focus macro

i used a shadowstep kick macro on focus, really helped with uptime

[thorny crown]

is 39% mastery to much? Is the diminishing return still on?

[spice spire]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[proper hare]

i hhave spyglass hero track as well but ritualknife outperforms it for me atm

(sims)

[faint vessel]

yeah im running champ ritual knife in M+ and hero deadeye in ST

[grave osprey]

Whats the highest tier of Ritual knife that you can get? Hero?

[proper hare]

hero

[grave osprey]

Kk

[quaint hull]

Would you mind DM ing me your log?

[proper hare]

but´ll probably sit on champion skardyns for a while

[faint vessel]

^

[proper hare]

if i dont get blessed in vault this reset

been hella unlucky

[austere bramble]

how far behind deathstalker is fatebound? im annoyed with how mark works on some bosses in m+

[minor dagger]

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[royal lantern]

a couple %

[faint vessel]

getting deadeye also pulled my VV ST build ahead of my sanguine by a small amount, found that interesting

[spice spire]

What was your trinket before

[faint vessel]

champ knife

[sullen mural]

What bosses? Personally didnt see any issues

[woeful wigeon]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[faint vessel]

so little more mastery and agi on knife, checks out itd be good for sanguine

[spice spire]

Ig big mut crits

[nova aspen]

if u gear for it, it sims better than DS for me

[ionic fox]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[young dust]

ill see if i can because its private, but i can send screenshots if not possible

[austere bramble]

can you talk more about this? i didnt realize the gearing was different

[rotund oak]

[nova aspen]

!hero

[prisma monolith]

Both Hero Talents are viable in all content, and are within 2-5% of each other.
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle in easy content like heroic/m0 dungeons

[nova aspen]

whats the cmd

[sullen mural]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[nova aspen]

Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit

that

[austere bramble]

oh i see

[rotund oak]

[austere bramble]

makes sense simc recommended haste/mastery gems for me generally over crit

[rotund oak]

u should sim always

[sullen mural]

Im still intrested what bosses annoy you with DM in m+

[proper hare]

any since energy is monkaS

[austere bramble]

uhh i just finsihed a boralus and the boss dread captain lockwood i couldnt apply DM to the adds

[nova aspen]

https://raider.io/characters/us/thrall/Malarki

fatebound is fine

[old sequoia]

Any tips for siege final boss? Notably, should I be sprinting/stepping between the two tentacles to dot them up?

[austere bramble]

i may give it a shot!

[proper hare]

depends, if you are 3 melee just stand solo on the non big tentacle, other wise kill one at a time

how i do it in 10s

[old sequoia]

Yeah we usually kill devastating first. Damage just feels lackluster for me throughout

[sullen mural]

idk assa sucks ass on that boss i feel your pain

[old sequoia]

Yeah 😔

[proper hare]

yeah its lackluster af

we have fun on aoe

st is fun during lust cause infinite energy and then its just chillin

afaik, classic andy turned retail andy during tww

prob doing something wrong but ~90avg on palace hc

[sullen mural]

Are you pressing envenom

if yes ur doing it right

[proper hare]

ofc

im just hella clueless on ulgrax

we did progress last reset and my damage was dog

prob misstiming cds cause on hc i just hella pump

[sullen mural]

Dw same

[proper hare]

also gained 6 ilvls since last reset xd

so surely i pump tonight

[toxic patio]

Is ara-kara or siege trinket better for m+?

[sullen mural]

Like on reset when we recleared

i did 1m dps and thats a 81 log

and my ass was bottom on details

[austere bramble]

we're progressing broodtwister and i am blown away how much im gapping everyone in boss dam, we specifically have a few lackluster aoe classes in their pure ST build and I'm still taking them to gapplebees. sin feels so fun to play rn in raid and m+

[sullen mural]

think just bad fight as assa

[proper hare]

yeah im just gonna aim to do ish 1 mill tonight and call it a day

[sullen mural]

Unless u can convince your dps to NOT blast the one add you apply caustic to

[proper hare]

tell that to the fury/frost dks

xD

[crystal vault]

does cheat death work on kyveza execute thingy?

[coral ibex]

on brood i think you just always stay on boss and spatter off no?

[coral ibex]

no, p sure you just die

[proper hare]

not sure did it on hc and went well

not even close to brood for mythic yet though

[sullen mural]

Elusiveness is just kinda goated on that fight because of the lines

that shit hurts like hell

[proper hare]

feint poggers

still annoyed its on gcd

[austere bramble]

no gcd feint boysssss

[proper hare]

goes for eprimand as well

[sullen mural]

6? more days

or whatever

[crystal vault]

aren't lines oneshot on mythic?

[sullen mural]

I mean the fyrakk line thingies

[proper hare]

not the pizza the lines on players

[sullen mural]

not the pizza slice

[young dust]

Yeah we ran 2 rogues and both were at the top, followed by frost and enhance (on boss damage)

[severe sparrow]

I considered going my st build for brood last time we cleared cuz i wanted to be done w the fight faster and usually there's some degen in full on key spec in our raid but im glad i didn't

Big bar makes the dopamine go brrrrr

[pure falcon]

is it better to rupture and garrote as much targets as i can on mythic + or spam envenom for caustic splatter

[proper hare]

garotte rapture from stealth then do aoe stuff w spatter

and vanish to do it again if needed

silence is also giga

[toxic patio]

Do we want to use crimson tempest on st when deathmark available?

[severe sparrow]

No

[toxic patio]

Oh damn, I would have said it was worth since u doble the effect, thanks

[spice spire]

CT ST with mod rolling

These are very small gains

And only if you’re talented into Ct like.
You don’t actively talent for st afaik

[toxic patio]

Ye ye, it's for m+ where u play it

[young dust]

meh

[toxic patio]

What does mod rolling mean

I'm new to rogue vocabulary, being forced to play it since 4 days ago 🙂

[proper hare]

forced to play rogue is new

[toxic patio]

Well it seems it's very good for m+

[proper hare]

it is really good but mage/dk/aug is turbo good

dont check casual addict stuff

hes not human

[mint valve]

Is 2x dawnthread still best for m+?

[royal lantern]

everyone that plays m+ beyond weekly +10 vault keys is not human

[proper hare]

8, 10s are fun tho

[toxic patio]

No mage and no aug on mdi, specially no aug

[simple yoke]

Run 10s have fun, running higher just must be some kind of crazy town thought process

[toxic patio]

Pushing keys is fun

[proper hare]

im no esport andy but playing super meta i cant speak on

[quartz cloak]

Actually fun pushing keys as high as you can

[spice spire]

Momentum of despair

One of the Hero talents

[white venture]

Fatal intent is such a garbo hero talent

[pure falcon]

what spread you need to get keystone hero?

[barren epoch]

full 9s and like 3-4 10s

[crimson current]

but mdi is different from pushing keys

[crimson current]

wyd when u complete the 10s

[royal python]

Do deadly poison ticks count towards KB ramp, or just the instant applications

[proper hare]

next char ig

[crimson current]

i cant focus on more than one character sadge

[iron valve]

log off

[proper hare]

im getting a second rogue up so i can play only rogue and chill

but yeah do 10s then its either play something else and raidlog untill vault and repeat

[coral ibex]

some people enjoy the challenge of increasing difficulty in dungeons

[proper hare]

true and real

i enjoy my ++10s

not got into super push m+ yet

not good enough either tbh

[coral ibex]

lots of people tend to have the most fun when they experience a level of challenge that forces them to approach their skill cap

[proper hare]

also true

[coral ibex]

its why once you do the hardest difficulty raiding in an mmo its hard to go back to lower tiers

feels like baby mode

[tulip fern]

This is very true but then if you're weird like me you also like to be a big fish in a small pond because you hate being bad and feeling like you let people down so you get stuck in a weird cycle

fluctuated between 250-2000 in world ranks for this reason

[prime flame]

inverse is better for growth. it's best to play with people better than you

[coral ibex]

a "big" fish is always hard capped by how small their pond is

you learn nothing from people who are worse

you often pick up their bad habits

[tulip fern]

yeah I have always known that, just a private ego that makes me limit myself

[coral ibex]

if you really hate being bad, stop playing with people who make you worse and play with people who make you better

this got really deep for a monday morning lol

[south prawn]

any1 got any advice how to play arakara first boss (+11 and higher?) I am kinda hard stuck at 800-900k dps and i wanna do more dmg

[scenic nacelle]

save vanish for the adds

[tulip fern]

Delving into my mental health with the rogue boys

[coral ibex]

comp dependent, i do the most damage when i can CT the adds + boss

and they live for most of the CT

but its "best" to have a comp that blasts the adds while you tunnel boss

imo

[south prawn]

ye thats what i try to do

but sometimes they live too long and its a fiesta

[coral ibex]

prob just work on your ST rotation

i basically always run over and throw up a CT and a few ruptures

[prime flame]

Best to Vanish Garrote boss, then step garrote the adds

[coral ibex]

yea thats a big play

[tulip fern]

especially if you spread the ruptures and then go hit some +agi envenoms on boss

[prime flame]

If you put up 4 ruptures and a CT, the rest is not on you. go hit the boss and blame the tank if you wipe

[south prawn]

lmao

bet

[rotund oak]

most played class till now in tww

[nova aspen]

druids are popping off in keys

[tulip fern]

I think rogue has been low playerbase for a while now

not just tww

[rotund oak]

yup

[nova aspen]

bear cat and chicken are all good

[prime flame]

There's not a snowballs chance in hell that rogue was the most played class in this game until now

[winged quail]

yeah rouge has been low for years

[tulip fern]

I think in vanilla rogue was high

[winged quail]

only time I could see it being high pop is vanilla yeah

[nimble ether]

Why don’t people play rogue

[eager gazelle]

paladin and hunter have been most played classes for a decade lmao

[rotund oak]

hard and unforgiving

[tulip fern]

pala and druid make sense tbf, the ogs that cover all roles

[prime flame]

Because it's one dimensional and bad at solo content

[winged quail]

people don't like rogue fantasy, it has a lot of binds and is relatively hard

also yeah solo content on rogue is painful

[royal python]

Rogue is piss ez

[prime flame]

They hate when people bring this up

[bright tartan]

100000 things break stealth, lock picking is useless and ugly daggers

[rotund oak]

[nimble ether]

Yeah rogue doesn’t feel hard to me

Am I a goated Chad

[royal python]

I've played rogue since legion, there's nothing hard about it

[tulip fern]

Regardless of how hard you think rogue is or isnt, ret pala exists

[winged quail]

neither to me but I've mained it for years, a new player would struggle

[rotund oak]

how cute

since legion

[tulip fern]

and ret pala is the only class I have taken into dungeons and topped meters without reading anything about the class lol

[simple ore]

class mains: "man it's crazy I find this class I've played for nearly 10 years so easy why don't other people who have just picked it up?"

[ebon prism]

Anyone have a plater mod for our dots for pandemic window?

[winged quail]

ret pala is bop-it on the shiny buttons

[rotund oak]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[nimble ether]

I started playing this game in the beginning of the expansion

[uneven plume]

Is there a point of me crafting anything else?

I have two 636 weps and 636 boots. I have mythic track belt and bracers.

[rotund oak]

whispyr's

[winged quail]

whispyr plater has pandemic scripts

[tulip fern]

craft low ilvl pieces but if not then no not really

[ebon prism]

Does it replace my current player profile? I just want the part that does the pandemic

[winged quail]

just export the scripts from whisp's profile into the one you want to use

[ebon prism]

I'm using whispyrs afenar edit and I love it too!

[uneven plume]

im at 626 ilvl so i dont really have any other low level pieces

[ebon prism]

Oh I can choose which scripts from it I want? That's cool

[uneven plume]

might just start crafting for outlaw i guess

[rotund oak]

would have sworn its mods

[tulip fern]

I would say save your crests for myth track upgrades then

[winged quail]

oh it might be mods yeah

[rotund oak]

..

[uneven plume]

yah good idea

[royal python]

You don't need pandemic specific weak auras, just refresh garotte at 3 secs n rupture at 6

[tulip fern]

Yeah tbh, i only do 10s so maybe this isnt applicable to others but mobs dont live long enough for me to care about refreshing bleeds after the initial spread lol

[coral ibex]

i mean its definitely good to have some kind of indicator for pandemic on your dot weakauras

there's no reason not to

just add a glow of some kind

[uneven plume]

i think platers have some sort built in already

[spice spire]

Most do

[uneven plume]

like your bleeds flash when in pandemic

[royal python]

I mean it literally says the remaining duration

[coral ibex]

yea and glows are meant to catch your peripheral vision while you are looking at something else

if ur watching ur rupture timing actively idk what ur doing

[spice spire]

Personally I like to just stare at numbers and ignore everything else around me. mechanics? Miss me w that, need to know the seconds left on my bleeds

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[rotund oak]

thats some nice hair

[coral ibex]

glow during pandemic means you dont have to think about hmm is my rupture in pandemic, i should check

[spice spire]

That’s a nice man

[coral ibex]

you see glow you refresh

its that simple

[spice spire]

It’s definitely helpful for me personally.
Big glow fan for pandemics

[spice surge]

To me its just too much noise on the screen with those glows

[royal python]

Maybe some people need that crutch

[spice surge]

Especially on nameplates

[coral ibex]

oh i dont add glow on nameplate

its only in my weakaura

this glows in pandemic

[rotund oak]

jokes aside,i think that shiv glow when u have to press on KB

[tulip fern]

Ayy atrocity enjoyer

[rotund oak]

is whispyr masterpiece

[coral ibex]

yea

very good idea

[spice spire]

I don’t do plates specifically but ST helps a bit.

[spice spire]

Ancient icon

[coral ibex]

which one, the toxic blade?

[tulip fern]

just make a weakaura that puts a giant pepe in the middle of your screen if a mob has less than 5 seconds on rupture

[coral ibex]

lol yea

[spice spire]

He

[spice surge]

Toxic blade icon but no vendetta icon

[spice spire]

@keen spruce

[coral ibex]

dude good point, should change

[ebon prism]

Depends on your teams DPS too

[ebon prism]

There's like a bar on the left of whispyrs. What is it? And why in stealth does garrote glow?

[spice spire]

Here’s a hack for the week. If you have a bad healer, mobs get healed nonstop

[spice spire]

To show it’s empowered

[ebon prism]

Lol I don't go without a shaman in group

[rotund oak]

emp gar

[spice spire]

Idk about the left bar and I use his

[lusty crag]

Guys do we get the rogue beta changes next reset ?

[spice spire]

22nd

[shy sorrel]

can you have two of the same crafted dagger equiped?

[dapper cradle]

Zerocool shaved his head?!

Gonna miss those luscious locks bro

[spice spire]

Yes - they’re not unique equipped

[keen rover]

The left bar tracks your time out of stealth

For imp g

Or other things i guess?

[royal lantern]

play other games?

what else

[spice spire]

Make spriest

[keen rover]

Make frost dk

[spice spire]

Make gulps augvoker

[golden quarry]

during indiscriminate carnage do yall switch targets for spreading garrote/rupture on 6+ targets

i find it tedious even with MO

[pure falcon]

beat timer is fine?

[spice spire]

I do not swap unless there’s a massive need

Or I open on a non prio target

Ie. Siege packs make sure I silence the caster then move to the “big mob” of the pack

[eager gazelle]

you can also use a mouseover macro, much easier than swapping around and trying to find your marked target again

[ebon prism]

I got the trinket from queen. Where in rotation do I use it? I didn't realize it's a cast so I was putting it with my deathmark and never using it lol

[spice spire]

What’s your other trinket

[ebon prism]

The empowering crystal one

[golden quarry]

lol ok good to know its not just me

[spice spire]

It’s passive right?

[ebon prism]

Yep

[spice spire]

If so before dm to get on cd

[barren epoch]

I think so

[golden quarry]

yeah i find it annoying even with mouseover, maybe just skill issue lul

[ebon prism]

Ok ty

[spice spire]

Ideally you have that + skardyns

And launch skardyns and dm

[ebon prism]

Double on use?

[spice spire]

And then mandate 30s later

Yeah

It does a ton of fucking damage

Just raw

[ebon prism]

How about in aoe? I feel like every gcd in aoe pumps so much damage that I don't want to use mandate

[coral ibex]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

I’d smack prio target

And just send it

[ebon prism]

Ok

[eager gazelle]

yeah it is still annoying with nameplates all over the place. You will still get the max scent of blood stacks if you just send 2 ruptures and 2 garrotes on the prio target which is most important thing

[spice spire]

Trinket does a lot of dam

[arctic socket]

I would farm out Crystal from dawn break for keys

Crystal goes HARD in aoe

[crimson current]

i like it but in pug kinda hard

[spice spire]

Another trinket to farm

Damn I got 3 already

Need 2 more?

[crimson current]

completed half 12s only on pugs

now i need the hard ones

its just sad cause people just want meta classes but its so easy to get high io on them that theres a lot of bad fdks and augs

[ebon prism]

Empowering crystal? I just got it

[quartz cloak]

Aren’t rogue meta in m+? 👀

[crimson current]

yea it is

[ebon prism]

I don't rly play with augs. They're usually all bad and get carried

[crimson current]

but in higher keys ppl prio aig, mages and fdk

[deep gyro]

Facts

[crimson current]

yea, all my 12s didnt have aug

[golden quarry]

do we know exact pandemic windows?

[crimson current]

whenever a try with an aug, i dont time it

[slate crown]

Ngl I think the problem with getting invites is not a "you have low io" or "you're not meta" I think the problem is that the ratio of dps:heal:tank is like 100:5:1 instead of the 3:1:1 groups need. I think that's like 80% of the problem, not meta chasing

There's just too many dps

someone's not getting picked

[tawdry gulch]

!GUIDE

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[ebon prism]

They keep nerfing Aug too, so I feel like they'll fall out until extremely high keys like 17-18s where u need Aug to even survive

[crimson current]

yea, but then u see the group forming and its like 90% of the time augs, fdks and mages

[slate crown]

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[spice spire]

I’d rather blame and flame the meta

[golden quarry]

tyty

[spice spire]

Miss me w that

[crimson current]

theres a lot of times i got invited

and then kicked cause a fdk with same or a bit lwoer ioo than me appeared on queue

xd

[quartz cloak]

For real?!? That’s toxic

[arctic socket]

Yeah that’s the one

[crimson current]

thats pug xp

[spice spire]

That group does not sound promising

[crimson current]

i dont blame them tho

[pliant grail]

anybody using Whispyr nameplates? dont rly understand the glowing thing on target 🙂

[spice spire]

I’d hate check the key after to see if they timed

But I’m an insane hater

[quartz cloak]

Idk then they shouldn’t invite in the first place

[spice spire]

[crimson current]

and usually those super meta classes players are not that good

but they get invited so much that eventually they time keys

[barren epoch]

granted i dont play 11+ keys but I have yet to see a really good mage.

seem like a rare breed

[crimson current]

i stg i didnt time keys with mages and augs

my 12s were with like retri pallys and mm hunters

[arctic socket]

Mm hunters?

[crimson current]

obv fdk cause its too strong and not that hard to play

[arctic socket]

I have yet to see a mm hunter if any of my keys

[ebon prism]

I've seen rly good arcane and frost mages that do a ton of damage. But most mages don't use defensives so they just die to the smallest thing

[crimson current]

i usually dont like them but idk

i timed 12 with it in 1 try

[ebon prism]

Celinn are u always top DPS in your groups?

[crimson current]

and gave a lot of tries with augs that depleted

[crimson current]

not always

[arctic socket]

I ran a key yesterday with a Aug / boomy

We failed it 😭

[crimson current]

i like boomy

[ebon prism]

They do insane damage with big pulls

[arctic socket]

I like boomy too but I shouldn’t be a billion ahead of it

[crimson current]

yea, playing around their cds is giga good

[ebon prism]

Like 12m+ DPS on first pull necrotic wake

[spice spire]

Boomy is good if you have a decent group.
They’re hard to play around

[quartz cloak]

I’m always top dmg in keys no flex, just need to play with better ppl I feel 😅

[arctic socket]

^ the boomy I had was 2650 io we pulled huge in nw first pack and he only hit 4m

With cds / Aug buff

[crimson current]

the problem of this pull is that a lot of them die so fast so we cant damage before applying our bleeds lol

[spice spire]

Oh nvm he’s shit

They can’t be

They’re playing a dead class rn

[ebon prism]

Lol yeah

[iron valve]

things dying fast is the opposite of a problem

[quartz cloak]

Yeah I don’t bother with CDs in NW first pack with a dk or so

[arctic socket]

It’s a problem if you wanna look at big numbers

[crimson current]

u understand what i want to say

come on

[ebon prism]

Why not? U still need to prio the gatekeeper

[spice spire]

Anyone ran with the unholy dk omega cursed build? That shit is wild

But holy fuck they cooked so hard

[quartz cloak]

Haven’t pulled gatekeeper before nerfs in that one

[arctic socket]

Which one

[spice spire]

No apocalypse

[arctic socket]

Haven’t seen that yet

Is it good?

[crimson current]

as rogue u cant die to gatekeepers

[spice spire]

Not the uh sanlayn build

[ebon prism]

Oh I usually see 4 packs pulled for nw first pull, including the right gatekeeper. Sometimes even 5 with the pack in the very middle

[spice spire]

Yeah, no apocalypse is good

[crimson current]

if you die, u playing it giga wrong or ur healer is so bad

[spice spire]

Sanlayn is mega cursed

And negative st

[arctic socket]

Restro shammys go hard

[quartz cloak]

I don’t die but everyone else did 🙄

[crimson current]

yea, they dont have feint

[arctic socket]

are you a elusive player?

[spice spire]

Healing hard.
Down to make healers life easier even if they’re shit

On 12s you gotta play elusive, surely

[crimson current]

only on cot and sob

[quartz cloak]

They have a lot of stuff but are so used to being tanky enough and just press dmg buttons 😅

[ebon prism]

If u don't kill gatekeeper after 2nd aoe, it's prob death

[arctic socket]

If I ever die it’s by default healer or tanks problem

[spice spire]

[crimson current]

not really

i use it only on those i said

that have massive dot dmg

[arctic socket]

I think I’m just a elusive lover

I play it on anything above 10

[quartz cloak]

I swapped to elusiveness and I feel immortal if not fcked up

[arctic socket]

Just so much dr

[crimson current]

i mean, its obv good

but not necessary in all dungeons

[spice spire]

What’s DR

[quartz cloak]

Think NW 1st boss retch is one shotting me without elusiveness

[spice spire]

[quartz cloak]

Damage reduction

[crimson current]

but doesnt it count as aoe dmg?

so elusiveness is useless

[quartz cloak]

Might be

Haven’t checked 😂

[spice spire]

It’s actually deez reasons to love urself king

Also you have evasion for one retch

[arctic socket]

Damage reduction

[crimson current]

thats why i said i only use it on massive dot dmgs dgs

[spice spire]

Buddy

[crimson current]

like cot have a lot of them

[spice spire]

I was going to cook u so hard

[wise whale]

Man the retch from upstairs add in NW 1 shots me too

[crimson current]

every pack almost

[spice spire]

If you were first

[crimson current]

and sob 2nd and last boss

[spice spire]

Cloak and pray baby

Also on first boss NW supercloak works

[arctic socket]

Cooked pretty hard with your love life too

That was harsh

I’m sorry

[spice spire]

Actually that’s pretty good rn big dog

[crimson current]

yea and thats so fast the gcd fucks hard

[spice spire]

[crimson current]

thats mostly the reason i use cheat death on nw

[wise whale]

Does evasion work on that add btw?

[crimson current]

so i can fuck up at least 1 time on this mob

[wise whale]

The way it does 1st boss retch

[spice spire]

The one upstairs, no

[wise whale]

oh

[spice spire]

That’s a cloak afaik

[wise whale]

gg

o7

[spice spire]

Yeah sux

[wise whale]

zzzz blizzard

[barren epoch]

rotspew?

[wise whale]

Ye

[feral mason]

hello assa

[barren epoch]

doesnt feint make you live?

[spice spire]

Hello young Timothy

[crimson current]

yea

[barren epoch]

dont need to cloak it

[crimson current]

but the cast is fast and sometimes u have gcd

[wise whale]

I guess i just hold the gcd for feint

[barren epoch]

unless ur giga low

[feral mason]

Gotta press feint before the cast goes through btw

If projectile is in the air and u feint

It wont work

[barren epoch]

if you have dbm it will tell you when its happening

[spice spire]

[barren epoch]

just wait for a sec

[crimson current]

and theres no reason to keep cloak

[barren epoch]

you only have one cloak, you can grt targetted multiple times

[crimson current]

u wont use it on the boss fight umtil 2nd time boss go down

[spice spire]

ESP since they nerfed boss’s passive

[crimson current]

ig

[spice spire]

Ye

[feral mason]

not yet

[barren epoch]

thursday right?

[spice spire]

Wait they haven’t yet?

[crimson current]

the nerfs come tomorrow

[spice spire]

Lmfaoo

[crimson current]

nope

[feral mason]

i feel like people think that dungeon has been nerfed already haha

So many gatekeeper pulls in my keys

[wise whale]

Why tf is feint even on the GCD

[feral mason]

[spice spire]

I definitely had

[shy sorrel]

Do you use FoK before or after Deathmark/Kingsbane in ST? With Deathstalker

[feral mason]

Only one more week!!!

[barren epoch]

its op man

[crimson current]

until tomorrow, still 3 spear that boss and pray

[spice spire]

You just use it with ctw procs

[barren epoch]

wait feint is coming off the gcd?

[feral mason]

yes

22nd

[barren epoch]

sickkkkk

[spice spire]

So you send the dn envenom

Fok

[crimson current]

when feint is coming off gcd?

holy

[spice spire]

Chuckling

[crimson current]

finally

[spice spire]

October 22/23

Pending region

[crimson current]

that will be giga good

[feral mason]

tomothy

[spice spire]

Yeah

[barren epoch]

yarp

[vestal cliff]

hey guys quick question, how do i change my single target playstyle if i use sanguine blades? do i want to stay over 50% energy or under when pooling?

[shy sorrel]

So Ambush Garrote Rupture put 5+CP into Envenom into FoK?

[spice spire]

I’m going to hit filter

[feral mason]

aa

[spice spire]

I see only two finishers there

You didn’t proc darkest night

[silk imp]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

And send max envenom

After you do that

Then ctw

Procs

Then you fok

And that’s without double VV etc

[shy sorrel]

So, Ambush Garrote Rupture SnD ER Mutilate Envenom then FoK? And then DM Shiv kingsbane?

yeye I play wihtout VV

[heavy canopy]

Should Envenom always be cast at max combo points?

[spice spire]

SnD isn’t a finisher that counts toward dsm

[shy sorrel]

ah

[barren epoch]

on boss fights like ara kara 1st boss where ads are seperated from boss, do you CT the ads and then step back to ST CT the boss?

[spice spire]

Only when darkest night is up

Like it’s literally just

You’ve hit all of your deathstalker marks

You max CP envenom to get the DN bonus

You fok

That’s it

That’s the line

[shy sorrel]

Oki

ty

[heavy canopy]

Why FoK?

[shy sorrel]

https://gyazo.com/25f27ecf6341742237b9bb958c6ed0b5

I've been told it does more dmg in ST

[heavy canopy]

Cool, thank you!

[analog hornet]

Its funny 🤣 +2 Grim Batol 🤣

[coral ibex]

win+shift+s lets you snip 🙂

[reef isle]

wa!

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

WaLuigi POV

[minor gate]

just gave fatebound a go at queen yesterday

it wouldnt say its better but it is nice for my sanity

[spice spire]

[snow sinew]

brother ew

instant poison

[vestal cliff]

guys when playing sanguine blades in ST do i have to be over 50% energy the whole time?

[spice spire]

If you’re also playing deathstalker it’s actually the opposite

But no you don’t play around sb at all

[minor gate]

i do pool abit if its close

[vestal cliff]

why the opposite?

[minor gate]

but no

[south prawn]

can blizzard put us out of our misery already

aint no way we're supposed to be pressing feint this much T_T

[spice spire]

It doesn’t sap ur energy under 50%

[minor gate]

the only thing making me not run elusiveness is knowing i will get one shot at the start of the pull

[spice spire]

So you can have more finishers

[vestal cliff]

aaaah okay

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/photo-taker-photography-camera-mohanlal-lalettan-gif-11868471640039093005

[vestal cliff]

ty!

[nova aspen]

they did, its off the gcd in 1 week

[vestal cliff]

people are playing SB on Rashanan and i dont know why

[south prawn]

So cringe that we die from anything unless feint is pressed

[snow sinew]

why

[south prawn]

Boss fking farts and u go next life

[snow sinew]

if they remove the need for that, rogue stops being meta

[nova aspen]

feint is a broken defensive

[tulip fern]

Ladies and gentleman

[south prawn]

Its not viable to play cheat death and at high keys it will proc once and gg

[tulip fern]

We got em

[south prawn]

Gz

[crisp walrus]

ppl running sb + improved potions instead of vicious venoms on, like, every boss in mythic logs

idk why either

[minor gate]

oh im on about raiding

[balmy condor]

Because it sims 0.3% higher for them

[minor gate]

yeah i use it in keys

[balmy condor]

It’s very easy

Sims higher = played

[vestal cliff]

will it be harder to manage energy with SB?

[crisp walrus]

ah ok

i figured that

[cursive knoll]

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[balmy condor]

Not really no

[vestal cliff]

okay i think i try SB on Rashy then and lets see how it goes

[crisp walrus]

i just dont like the playstyle of sb

[spice spire]

GM king

[vestal cliff]

well if we dont play around it its fine

[dense cloud]

zzzzzzzzzzzz

[vestal cliff]

[dense cloud]

but deadeye is fucking shit tho

[balmy condor]

1,084 (1084)

[dense cloud]

no?

uptime is shit on it

[balmy condor]

It’s a good trinket

[vestal cliff]

i love it

[dense cloud]

I have champion knife and grim trink

xd

[spice spire]

Yeah knife is good

[dense cloud]

ik, shit out simms most hc trinks

[spice spire]

Just caps at a lower ilvl

Otherwise that thing turbo fucks

[dense cloud]

cba to farm delves

[white flame]

With ST raid build, is there any reason to vanish for dps?

[spice spire]

Depends on ur build

[white flame]

without improved garrote or shrouded suff

[spice spire]

We have like 6 variations

Then no

[toxic patio]

If both on max ilvl, would u use dead-eye or ara'kara trinket for m+?

[spice spire]

Whichever simmed higher tbh.

Which for me rn is ara Kara

Dead eye is close

[tepid lichen]

imo deadeye not super great for M+

it can proc on a mob which is about to die, or which has low hp and dies fast

and you lose your proc basically

[spice spire]

That is true

It can

[tepid lichen]

great for ST though

and sims cant account for that situation so

[stark escarp]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[toxic patio]

Well the mob u target shouldn't die fast since u always prio the big guy of the pack no?

[coral ibex]

i got lucky with the kyveza trinket drop on heroic

seems pretty solid

wish the 2p was a dagger and not a fist

tf is up with that

her whole bit is assassination and its a fist

[heavy vessel]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[vestal cliff]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[south token]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tepid lichen]

yea but you are using aoe abilities so chance you tag a mob that dies instantly

[toxic patio]

Oh it can proc on random enemies from aoe, I thought it was only ur target that could proc on

That sucks then ye

[little tulip]

flayed wing toxin and ara kara simmed higher for me too

but it was so minor like 3k dps

[normal mist]

Guys i tried to do my +10 NW

tank left on the first pack.

[royal lantern]

the first pack hits HARD

there is a reason why you throw BL there if you do a double/tripple pull

but tanks gonna be tanks and not understand that they hould use their cds once in a while

[subtle tundra]

nw is reaaaaaally hard

fuck that dungeon

[normal mist]

It was a triple pull, tank died, and it was downhill from there

[little tulip]

or they don't stack mobs on the kill targets

[normal mist]

my +10key took...

1 minute and 7 seconds to deplete.

[little tulip]

or this bullshit from an arcane mage

[royal lantern]

oh ye, the guys standing 60yard seperated from the group pamming throw flesh with 99% hp

[subtle tundra]

whats the problem with this?

[little tulip]

getting two tapped by frostbolt volley

[subtle tundra]

reanimated guys are just fodder mobs that dissapear when you kill main target

kick cc better

[little tulip]

yeah me and the other dps were on our mage

[royal lantern]

Kidney once

expect a 7 sec stun

its only 1 sec cus the warrior starts every pack with shockwave

cry

[little tulip]

[crimson vector]

are you supposed to let your empowered garrotes run out fully before you refresh or can you refresh at like 1 sec left

[royal lantern]

is "yes" a appropiate answer?

like, ye, you wanna let it run out and instantly apply a new one

[coral ibex]

don't overwrite improved garrotes

[royal lantern]

but its 1 sec, that 1 tick will not make a gigantic difference

[coral ibex]

except with improved garrotes

[keen spruce]

LIKE THIS?

[coral ibex]

perfect, share the wago

[crimson vector]

Heard so let it tick out and next global is garrote

ty

[royal lantern]

@tulip fern he did the work for you

[little tulip]

we only died once in +7 with lesser key sized pulls and finished with 4 minutes and 30 seconds

[calm grail]

What's a good macro for Skardyn's look like?

[spice spire]

I knew I could count on me nonsensical goat

[upbeat needle]

why do I have on 2 duskthread lining and it only shows as if I have one?

[keen spruce]

https://wago.io/jL10rN8YD

[balmy condor]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[tulip fern]

this is perfection

[royal lantern]

drop bellow 80% hp once

[upbeat needle]

ty gang

[upbeat needle]

ty gang

[calm grail]

What macro do you use for Skadyn's?

[royal lantern]

/cast Deathmark
/use 14

[spice spire]

What do you need

[royal lantern]

the end

[spice spire]

Actually it’s 13

Active goes on top

[royal lantern]

only heathens put their active trinket on the top slot

[acoustic pendant]

if mastery flask is the best for aoe whats the best for raid ? full st

[keen spruce]

rare quake W

[deep gyro]

This

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

what tryan said

[spice spire]

Actives go on top just like I actively top ur pops

[pure moth]

That's messed up

[iron valve]

flash goes on F

[keen spruce]

I just do what i'm told

[royal lantern]

league goes into the 8th circle of hell where it belongs

[shy sorrel]

if Rupture/garrotte runs out in AoE, is it worth to apply to all or just your target?

[golden ravine]

It can be /use 13 or /use 14. Depends on where the trinket is top is 13. Bottom is 14. I use bottom for my on uses.

[shy sorrel]

(If i dont have vanish)

[royal lantern]

you multi dot rupture

you dont do it with garrote

[shy sorrel]

Ah okay ty

Is there a specific reason as to why not to?

[royal lantern]

garrote does no dmg

and has a CD

so you cant really spread it anyway

[shy sorrel]

Ah okay

ty

[royal lantern]

rupture is just fok->rupture until you have 5-6 out and thats it

[silent drift]

why does queen mandate sim so shit when it can consistently hit 8m on use if it crits :/

sims says it's shit but man, details says otherwise lol

[normal mist]

M+?

or ST patchwerk sim?

[spice surge]

Details doesnt show the passive agi of other trinkets

[silent drift]

ST patch sim

[cobalt sphinx]

gear-a-rang launcher probably looks the best in details

[pure falcon]

are those WA saved to the bot helpful?

people use those?

[cobalt sphinx]

yup

[balmy condor]

basically everyone has a set of weakauras

if not from the bot they have their own or some other thing

[limber lion]

Love me some weakauras

Honestly wouldn't play the game if it wasn't for weakauras

[harsh anchor]

I yoinked whispyrs SL WA pack

[balmy condor]

shadowlands

[spice spire]

Feverdream.expansion

[soft shale]

blizz forgot about it

but they did free the nipple

[rocky plover]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[storm hedge]

On mythic Rasha'nan we go pure ST?

Cause on heroic casutic usually didn't reach

[balmy condor]

depends where your raid puts the adds

caustic only hits if you put the adds directly under the boss, all the way to the edge of the platform

I was one of the highest on add damage during prog

if your guild runs them to the side or doesn't stack them in the front, probably won't hit and should run internal bleeding

[coarse turtle]

!affix

[prisma monolith]

Affixes: Xal'atath's Bargain: Devour, Fortified, Challenger's Peril, Tyrannical

[coarse turtle]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[frigid wing]

is there a place where i can see the bot commands?

[cinder quartz]

i love making weakauras for a spec i plan on playing for 2 weeks then abandoning

[balmy condor]

no

[cinder quartz]

this resto shaman will be in the trashcan within 2 weeks but i made this for myself ❤️

[simple violet]

They should really get rid of that cooldown. So dumb

[pliant remnant]

!commands command when

[dense cloud]

how is 620+ people do this dmg

in mist

[normal mist]

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE THAT IN A +9

the DH TANK didnt KNOW that he should use DEMON SPIKES often

[cloud drum]

No wipe, good pulls and a quick run

[cinder quartz]

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE

[normal mist]

and a feral druid that in that same run 9GB face tanked ALL THE ELEMENTALS

[cloud drum]

question real quick, not only assa related but i'll play assa for a while, i'm switching my rogue from mechagnome (meme) to horde, what would be the best Race for m+

[normal mist]

orc

[cloud drum]

Orc probably?

[cinder quartz]

whatever has the best transmog

[normal mist]

thats orc

xD

[coral ibex]

your favorite looking race

[cloud drum]

okok makes sense

[arctic socket]

Orc

[cinder quartz]

fem tauren

[somber galleon]

undead 100%

[young dust]

very doable if double pulling on guessing games and making big pulls before last boss

[arctic socket]

Or vulpera

[sleek dust]

cow

[coral ibex]

vulpera are not real people

[cinder quartz]

if its good enough for casualaddict its good enough for me

[dense cloud]

funny thing is that they didnt do that

[spice spire]

Delete this nephew

[cloud drum]

i love how orcs look as well, big men barechest

[dense cloud]

lmao

[cloud drum]

[arctic socket]

Wait for the dracthyr change

And become that

Become dragon

[arctic socket]

Pay me to

[dense cloud]

lock had to pull thru the first wall in maze on pack cuz dk didn't know how, and he pulled it after pack died, also.. didn't pull an extra pack on the frog miniboss. we had to pull a pack on last boss to time it

[spice spire]

I ain’t paying you for anything

Will sell feet pics tho xoxo

[dense cloud]

I had to lock in with 1.85mil

[young dust]

oh, youre complaining about their damage?

[dense cloud]

yes

they are in 620+ ilvl

lol

[balmy condor]

idk what you're expecting from pugs

[young dust]

frost dks are flavor of the month, you get very bad ones

Im not an expert on destro lock though, affli i know that spymasters web makes a huge difference

[cinder quartz]

thats like, fine damage?

[balmy condor]

yeah

1.3 and 1.6 is like

completely reasonable

[arctic socket]

I wish I could

[royal lantern]

? thats good dmg wdym

[coral ibex]

an average performance from the fotm "OP" should be better than the average performance from some off meta

[young dust]

below 12s im way more concerned about how well they do their mechanics

[simple violet]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[young dust]

if youre not dying and kicking your shit its timeable

[spice spire]

Dog I see a 2.5 survival hunter Ik that mf a blaster

If I see a 2.5 fdk I have no hopes

[dense cloud]

ik its a good thing

[balmy condor]

above 12s I'm way more concerned about their mental state. Push keys are a disease and I hope they recover quickly

[dense cloud]

lmfao not wrong

[spice spire]

Whatcha pushing bud

[royal lantern]

poop out of my butt

[young dust]

i gave up on all 11s, back to farming mounts

[spice spire]

Lemme push that back in for u king

[young dust]

not worth the mental damage

[royal lantern]

im 100% sure thats a kink

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

like a guy spamming 8 vault keys in a day I'm like okay he's a grinder, whatever

but the guy that sits in dorn queueing a 13 for io and getting declined for 4 hours straight before logging out, that mfer scares me

[dense cloud]

thats how i was for the past 2 weeks not getting invited to 12s

cuz i gotta work

[balmy condor]

yeah

you are

terrifying

[royal lantern]

bro just spam the same dungeon all the time until RNG decides to target group good with their deffensives so nobody get 1hit killed bro

r.io number go up after 18 failed keys = you are a good player bro

[balmy condor]

the mental fortitude to pug higher than a vault key

is insane

[royal lantern]

i would not call it fortitude when you look at the amount of complaining about it

[cinder quartz]

#50 FDK in an 11 is pulling 1.8m, #50 Destro in an 11 is pulling 1.4m

i could not mentally handle pugging above vault keys

you gotta be built diff (incorrectly)

[rotund oak]

there is no reason to

literally

[lunar dragon]

I can barely handle pugging vault keys

[copper monolith]

they should reduce rets AOE.

so much damage

[cinder quartz]

at least untiming a randos key is a vault slot

[young dust]

i like the challenge but im not going over 11s without a group

[cinder quartz]

failing to time an 11 gives you nothing

[young dust]

pug i'm out

[cinder quartz]

it's all just score and im not trying to reach some arbitrary score

[gentle rover]

This is interesting, where do you find these numbers just Warcraft logs ?

[cinder quartz]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/39#boss=62290&metric=dps&class=Warlock&spec=Destruction&bracket=11

keep in mind this is only logged keys

[balmy condor]

It will lose touch with its principles and eventually crumble under the weight of its own spoils

[rotund oak]

yeah ofc,u dont even go above 10s w/o a group,there is no reason

[cinder quartz]

so it's not literally #50, just #50 of logged keys

[proper hare]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Z1cTvjG7r6AaKMH8#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=6 im not amazing but i would assume for next week i gotta get more add pad with splatter?

[dapper cradle]

Sounds like a line out of macbeth

[royal lantern]

idk how many people actually log keys tbh

[dapper cradle]

Shakespearean mf

[royal lantern]

i can shake your spear

[rotund oak]

fatebound sims 5.2% less than deathstalker in keys

buff fatebound

[vast loom]

dont worry about trying to parse on the fight IMO, do big boss dmg and you are doing fine

[rotund oak]

buff coin flippin

[royal lantern]

nah

[young dust]

bro you'd be surprised for how many people pay for raider io premium

[royal lantern]

lmao

[cinder quartz]

it's sporadic for sure

[proper hare]

yeah im just a classic andy so i always try to get 90s at worst

i did 300k more damage this reset so improvment xD

[orchid wind]

one question about dotting boys, if there is like 2 packs serperated and tank want to pull one into another, and i don't have Darkest night, should i stay on stealth, and let them gather and ambush on a target that i want to use my cds on ? or i just ambush a random mob for Stalker mark, and then dot them ?

[coral ibex]

hard to say if the average classic andy is any better or worse on logs than the average retail andy

[vast loom]

theres a bit of rng with adds and how much people are trying to pad on them

[fading plinth]

with one shiv charge do we want it at the star or end of kingsbane?

start*

[vast loom]

and how quickly you do the feeds

[proper hare]

havent played rogues since wod retail so i would assume im doing alright xD

[coral ibex]

classic andys need to lay down after pulling a boss but retail andys are too busy pet battling to equip the right talent spec