assassination

[waxen oyster]

youtube guides

[balmy condor]

Cause if they don’t they go to even dumber fucking pages

[waxen oyster]

[balmy condor]

That don’t explain shit

And they get even worse if no

Info*

[novel star]

can you include !bis on the bis list page

or would they get mad

[balmy condor]

It’s legit just a race to the bottom

[waxen oyster]

I get my assa rogue info from marcelianonline

[balmy condor]

I already do

[novel star]

oh

[waxen oyster]

clearly

[novel star]

lmao

[balmy condor]

That’s actually good though

[waxen oyster]

is he

[balmy condor]

They have me read through their script

[novel star]

holy

[balmy condor]

They legit give me the Google doc with edit rights

And give me complete free reign

[spice spire]

Yeah but do they open the guide with “hiya”?

[balmy condor]

The marcelian guys actually try their best to put good info out

I love them

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

They are good people

[waxen oyster]

Oh they make so much

[spice spire]

Haven’t paid attention in a bit

I Remember

[waxen oyster]

its hard to cover all specs

[spice spire]

The shadowlands guide

[balmy condor]

They check in with guide writers and stuff with all the specs

Like they’re actually trying their best to not say dumb shit

[waxen oyster]

i like the super small stream vod guides tbh

where the creator is just like

[novel star]

any other confirmed based youtubers or are the rest slop

[waxen oyster]

”ok in all fairness this is useless to 99% of people watching”

[balmy condor]

I’m dead serious, they almost hired me as a script writer but I declined cause I would’ve had to learn/play a bunch of classes and I didn’t want to play alts

They’re actually really based

[subtle tundra]

thats actually quite a lot of work

[waxen oyster]

Who’d they ask for sub and outlaw even

[subtle tundra]

like i have ret and ww alts but i couldnt tell you anything about the specs

[waxen oyster]

Is interesting how the rogue specs have their own writers

[subtle tundra]

i press buttons, bad and wrong

[waxen oyster]

doesnt azor do all hunter content

archi warrior

etc

[novel star]

ret 100 parser couldn’t tell u anything about ret bro

[balmy condor]

like I would've taken it if I could've just played rogue, but they insisted that I would need to play/maintain other classes to have quality content and integrity in my scripts and I said I wouldn't do that, and they said okay then nvm

[novel star]

fake spec

[balmy condor]

legit one of the most ethical and morally strong youtubers I have ever met

we're still good friends

[subtle tundra]

idk i played full ST spec in a key last night, shit group
did 1.4mil overall

spec is a meme

[novel star]

ye

it’s legit for babies idk

[subtle tundra]

shit gear

[novel star]

game sucks

[waxen oyster]

dont you not even play wings anymore

you just auto get it

from wake

[novel star]

sometimes i am surprised people come in here struggling so hard with certain like simple rogue things

and then i remember ret exists

[echo condor]

It's my go to MM+ spec, what should I toss in order to get iron wire ?

[novel star]

and it’s like the most popular dps spec or whatever

[waxen oyster]

we did an alt heroic tonight

[balmy condor]

yes 100 times over

[waxen oyster]

put it in lfg

4 dps signups

all ret

[balmy condor]

iron wire is the strongest utility talent in the game and you're entirely trolling to not take it

most classes in the game would actually kill to have iron wire on their tree

[novel star]

get rid of the shiv talent

[balmy condor]

and you're taking a dumb 1% dps talent with lightweight to avoid it

[spring sigil]

Where's the best place for me to get a belt other than the raid

[balmy condor]

do not do that

[waxen oyster]

pvp

or buy one

[balmy condor]

or craft one

or m+

[spring sigil]

Literally the only other item i need on hero track
(Other than Skardyns)

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter

[novel star]

crafting

[balmy condor]

anything with ilvl

[echo condor]

read again

[balmy condor]

oh

[echo condor]

what talent should I remove

[balmy condor]

lightweight shiv

the 2nd shiv charge

[echo condor]

ok thanks 🙂

[balmy condor]

usually people come in here dropping iron wire

cause all the builds recommend it

[waxen oyster]

its just the default talent build

[balmy condor]

I full auto pilot

[subtle tundra]

can buy 616 from AH

boe

[bitter badger]

does iron wire still reduces mobs damage even if they're not a caster?

[subtle tundra]

its 80k on my realm

[balmy condor]

if they can be silenced, yes

[spring sigil]

They upgradable 👀?

[subtle tundra]

yes hc track

can also buy mythic ofc

but thats more moneyz

[spring sigil]

Oh yeah im defo doing that then

Got 500k for free this week

Might as well make use of it

[pastel patrol]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

iron wire works by silencing, if they can be silenced, the debuff applies

and if the debuff applies, all of it applies

[subtle tundra]

thank god for boes cause otherwise my rogue would've been in the gutter

[novel star]

if u can do +8 keys you should really just craft 636 stuff but yea boes are good if u got money

[balmy condor]

your rogue is already in the gutter, pilot issue

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[subtle tundra]

tune in monday for queef ansurek prog

[balmy condor]

queef anuswreck?

[novel star]

Don’t type that

don’t type that either

[subtle tundra]

new title dropped

[spring sigil]

Been doing +10s but been upgrading trinkets and rings 👀

Sounds like i also need to drop double shiv and go iron wire

[balmy condor]

why are people not playing iron wire

[novel star]

doesn’t do damage

duh

[balmy condor]

handed a gift from the heavens, the strongest utility to grace the earth, solar beam on steroids

doesn't take it

[spring sigil]

Nah I'm just not familiar with rogue at all and like a big noob just picked up the icy veins build

[balmy condor]

icyveins build doesn't take iron wire?

[novel star]

there is no way icy doesn’t recommend iron wire

[subtle tundra]

idk being able to save pulls with iron wire and aoe blind dr

[novel star]

seli?

[spring sigil]

Let me double check if it does

[azure osprey]

hello guys, should i craft a dagger if im not getting any drops? i already crafted 2x dawnthreads

[balmy condor]

it def does

[novel star]

maybe ur using like the in game default build or sum

idk wtf that shit takes

[balmy condor]

yep

if you have 2 embellishments just craft whatever for ilvl

[novel star]

i maybe read in passing like 10 minutes ago in here that it doesn’t but i maybhave also not read that

i don’t really know

i don’t pay attention ever

[subtle tundra]

this game sucks

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

i have yet to take my vault

[novel star]

wha is it

[subtle tundra]

complicated

[novel star]

?

[subtle tundra]

its not sockets

[balmy condor]

just take the socket anyway

[subtle tundra]

i already have socket in inventory though hahaha

[balmy condor]

[winged sun]

grim +10 abit of a scuffed run but decent pump

[subtle tundra]

im more impressed how a fdk did 1.1

[winged sun]

yea no clue

he was braindead i guess

[subtle tundra]

is he aware he plays op class

probably complains how fdk is bad

[balmy condor]

specs being fotm

naturally tend to be the worst pickups in pugs

unironically

there's so many apes that will reroll fotm

that it's better like 9/10 times

to pick a non fotm class

because the fotm player is an absolute dumbfuck

[balmy prism]

at the same time it's understandable, playing fotm class gets you through the door

but yeah, it's like seeing a 3k survival hunter, you know that guy slams

also they keep making affixes pivot toward fotm classes like resto shams

[jovial idol]

Hey guys, is this a bug? Shouldn't it be CT?

[novel star]

just a tooltip skill issue

it is ct

[jovial idol]

Ok so it works properly

[waxen oyster]

i saw a resto sham today

no pct

no kick pressed

all key

[balmy prism]

lmao

[unborn island]

so im new and have question, looking at a m+ bis list it says your helm bis will be kareshi phantom's emptiness (626) and you get it from revival catalyst. what item am i supposed to use to get this from the catalyst?

[waxen oyster]

any myth track helm

you get your hands on

[balmy prism]

it's the tier helm right?

[unborn island]

ah okay cool

[balmy prism]

but also don't look at the bis list too much it's not applicable most of the time

just sim

[waxen oyster]

for the most part

you’re either going to pull a myth helm from m+ vault if you did weekly 10s

[unborn island]

okay i was just using it as a sort of rough guide on what to get and what to farm.. kinda lost on gear progression since ive only played classic before and the gearing system in tww is kinda crazy

[waxen oyster]

or kill mythic bloodbound

[balmy prism]

yeah, I'd recommend you look up how to sim your character

will be much more accurate than any bis list

[unborn island]

ik how to sim, was doing it in sod, but how would i use that to find my gear progression? just sim any items that i see that look like upgrades?

[novel star]

Ye, bis in modern wow is kinda fake news

[novel star]

use the top gear page

[balmy prism]

you can either use the droptimizer, or sim every new piece

[novel star]

any time you get a drop

new pieces will just be in there when u do /simc

so sim em

yeh

[unborn island]

whats top gear page

ok

coo

[novel star]

default page on raidbots

i think

idk it’s one of the tabs on top

[waxen oyster]

generally speaking

[novel star]

just use that for legit everything

[balmy prism]

and if you click the little plus sign on the items you can sim what items to upgrade with valorstones first

[waxen oyster]

if you dont raid mythic your only source of myth track gear

[novel star]

top gear is always the answer

[waxen oyster]

is the weekly vault slot for doing level 10 keys

and up

[iron carbon]

Unless for trinket I guess

[balmy condor]

even for trinket

[novel star]

yes and no, trinkets can also change value heavily based on rest of ur gear

[balmy condor]

like this patch is a great example of bis lists being entirely worthless for assa

even on trinkets

[novel star]

they give stats and whatever stat that is might be less valuable than another one if u have it already

Type Shit

[balmy condor]

you have skardyns, transmitter, or even the timewalking wrathstone

and then your second slot you have like legit 6-7 options

that all do basically the same

[iron carbon]

Indeed

[balmy condor]

in M+ you can technically even drop the skardyns

and run double passive

like resonating crystal + sacbrood or spyglass + some shit

can often sim higher

than a skardyns

[iron carbon]

Tbh Skardyn simmed always higher than anything

So I was, okay, it's super bis

Got it in 639 + Resonnating Crystal in 639

[waxen oyster]

matrix might go crazy

when cata tw drops

very high chance you get the proc

during your cds

[jovial idol]

I'm running spyglass + broodsac and pretty satisfied so far

[balmy condor]

yeah that's like totally fine

you just do less burst during dm

generally in giga high keys you like

wouldn't really want to

cause that burst is important

but for your overall key experience that'll work

and it's whatever

[strange maple]

is ironclaw whetsone a big dps gain ?

[balmy condor]

what's the definition of big

[subtle tundra]

what music is very funny to have for a stream

[waxen oyster]

gachi

[strange maple]

does it booost like 10 % of damage ?

[subtle tundra]

not annoying

maybe some chinese

[balmy condor]

best of shostakovich

[balmy condor]

no

1%ish

[spring sigil]

Skardyns is a bastard to get. Need to roll loot, actually complete the dungeon without people rage quitting and then roll the 1/10 to get it 😅

[subtle tundra]

ok sounds like a banger

[balmy condor]

consumables/embellishments this tier are super weak

[strange maple]

ohh thats kinda expensive then my server selling r2 for 500g which is like 1000g for an hour for 1% damage increase

maybe i will use it if i am a mythic raider

[spring sigil]

Praying for skardyns in my myth track slot next week 🙏

[waxen oyster]

2h

[subtle tundra]

use mana oils

if you want smth cheaper

[strange maple]

but ppl gonna laught at me

[waxen oyster]

mana oil+wax

[strange maple]

rogue using mana oil

[subtle tundra]

nobody cares

[strange maple]

ok i will use that then

[balmy condor]

why would people look at your consumables

[subtle tundra]

is shostakovich copyrighted?

[balmy condor]

no lmao

[subtle tundra]

ok so its safe

[balmy condor]

he died 50 years ago

[subtle tundra]

LOL L

[balmy condor]

it's all public work

[rotund oak]

because they are weird stalking nerds

[waxen oyster]

juice wrld is dead

his music is copyrighted

[balmy condor]

bro does NOT understand public domain

[rotund oak]

u wanna hear some of my dope morning music?farming some gear on my hpally doing bgs

[waxen oyster]

i mean sure

[rotund oak]

posted on pvp channel,dont wanna spam,whispyr will slap me

[waxen oyster]

also most people that dont main rogue

dont understnd shit about the class

i’ve noticed

[cyan gyro]

I honestly don't know what Blizzard wants me to do.... 3 hours on Zekvir and it's worse than the lottery

[balmy condor]

welcome to poorly tuned, badly designed solo content

[cyan gyro]

Oh the other hand, I've had a lot of practice in rotation!

[balmy condor]

it's like mage tower from wish.com

[waxen oyster]

i just did it as outlaw

evasion cdr

[balmy condor]

where your mechanical ability doesn't actually matter

[waxen oyster]

and vanish cdr

[cyan gyro]

Zero outlaw weapons, so can't do that

And unless i evasion off the next GCD, i would have died...

That's like asking a tank to open a fight with shield wall...

[loud gull]

hows the gem situation? we want 6 diff colors or we get blassphemite with 4 deadly onyx and 3 others ?

2 deadly onyx with 6 gems ofc

[cyan gyro]

Can I ask how did you get thru the debuff?

[limber lion]

Well technically yes, because the owners of the copyright/publishers/family of the composers/whatever have all the rights to the pieces until 70 years after the composers death.

[cyan gyro]

Brann dispel first, cloak second, vanish 3rd

[limber lion]

It is not in the publoc domain yet.

[cyan gyro]

Brann dispel 4th

But when it gets to 5th i'm screwed

[limber lion]

You can find public domain stuff in imslp the same day they release the domain to the public

[tawdry latch]

vanish second spit puts aggro on brann and avoids more situations where youre being meleed and brann is feared

[grizzled drift]

I did it as assa with double vanish, it's still rng and pure luck

Few times Brann just decided not to dispell and rip

[cyan gyro]

My afternoon has been full of Brann doing nothing, or when he does he despawn boss

[subtle tundra]

shit

i need some popping classical music for my stream

[grizzled drift]

It took me 5h and around 15k in repairs/food/flasks 😄

[topaz locust]

whats the dagger we should craft?

[limber lion]

The one that gives you agi

Stabber

[topaz locust]

that would prolly be a good idea

if i waste more crests i'll cry

[novel star]

i’m gonna be progging with my rank 2 mana oils bro idgaf

fuck whetstones

late to the convo but fr fuck that shit

[topaz locust]

bubbling wax is pog

and free

[winged sun]

i think we're op in m+

good buff blizzard

we rly needed it

[limber lion]

Yeah plenty of romantic pieces to listen to

Sibelius' music will soon be released to the public, but stuff like Mozart, Beethoven, Ravel, Debussy, Mahler etc is free

[subtle tundra]

fuck yea

noted

[novel star]

meh was a raid buff mostly

we were alr rly good in m+

[unborn island]

damn the simming in this game is soooooo much better and more helpful than in sod

well same amt of helpful but its so much easier to do in tww

[limber lion]

Sure is

[novel star]

ye

classic shit is a mess idk

[unborn island]

i enjoyed sod so much for 2 phases and then it took an absolute shit and never recovered. it was also absurdly toxic for no reason

[rotund oak]

its boomers replaying it for 100nth time while doing some minor new stuff

what did u expect

retail is as toxic if not worse

[plucky plover]

I finally killed Zekvir and it was the worst piece of garbage I've ever played in this game

[balmy condor]

yeah the fight sucks giga ass

[unborn island]

i guess im just not on a big competitive server because SO FAR i havent noticed

[plucky plover]

It was ez. Only took 80 attempts

[rotund oak]

servers dont matter alot right now fam,there are xrealm guilds and communities now,its basicly irrelevant

[sinful fable]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[cyan gyro]

I'm on 86 :/

[subtle tundra]

ill just go there at 636 ilvl and steamroll the guy

🙂

[plucky plover]

I almost rerolled a DK lol

[waxen oyster]

bran dispels it

vanish also clears it

[plucky plover]

haha does he though?

[waxen oyster]

sometimes

[novel star]

healer brann does ya

[waxen oyster]

or stoneform

[novel star]

when he feels like it

[plucky plover]

Exactly

[novel star]

i don’t even have ?? zek unlocked

[plucky plover]

Have to clear a T10

[novel star]

going above tier 8 delves is some insane boredom

requirement

like

[plucky plover]

It's almost like they stopped the progression and kept the tiers going for no reward

[novel star]

how can u have so little to do u wanna push delves above max vault lvl

[plucky plover]

I only did it for Zekvir

Tier 11's are busted

[cyan gyro]

I cheesed T11 with Tak-Rethan

But with Tak-Rethan, there's Brann who zooms everywhere.

[limber lion]

It's 70 years after the composers death in most countries. I wish it was public domain right after their death, because finding sheet music for niche Shosta, Sibelius etc. music is always a pain.

[limber lion]

I have never done a 9 or above

[balmy condor]

yeah sheet music is rough

[limber lion]

Is there legitimately any reason to?

[balmy condor]

but who tf is gonna copyright shosta on a stream

[plucky plover]

Achievements and Zekvir for the mount etc...

[limber lion]

Lmao ike

[balmy condor]

I don't think there's copyright on performances

[limber lion]

Some orchestras are fiends, they can copyright their specific performance

[balmy condor]

yeah

rarely

Idk

[limber lion]

But like 99% of the time who cares

[balmy condor]

yeh

[limber lion]

Getting more people to listen to classical is a win-win

Sometimes AI automatically copyright strikes channels because it thinks it's the copyrighted performance (even if it's legit you playing) but you can get overturned basically everytime

Bit of a mess

[novel star]

unlocking zekvir and that’s it afaik

it’s like going above a 10 in m+

[limber lion]

I guess that explains why I never saw the guy

[novel star]

legit 4fun

but the issue is delves aren’t fun

[limber lion]

Yup

[novel star]

so adding difficulty for fun

doesn’t really make sense

[limber lion]

Inb4 delve rating

[cyan gyro]

Issue is, for scripted content, the boss follows the script, while Brann improvises

Brann is the derp we tell not to stand in fear, and still do

[sinful fable]

!spark

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[nova kelp]

heading back into danger worm prison, wish me luck if you like, it won't help

[mystic osprey]

I deadass had a veteran mainhand and explorer offhand for ages

dont recommend it

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[marsh grail]

i mean it does say to craft dagger if you are unlucky

[spring sigil]

I've still not seen regicide drop 😅

Rare fist weapon nearly every week tho ofc

[balmy condor]

you're the pathetic little 580 main hand I'm talking about

you specifically

hope you have a degradation kink

[mystic osprey]

UwU

[mystic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1171385770972549191/1294858706126766122/image.png?ex=670c8aa4&is=670b3924&hm=72ed5e74556d7b982a7d03db2dcb70083113138fa4627ade73dcb768b214b60f&

[balmy condor]

619 skardyns

ngl now that I think about it

I'd rather an empty vault slot

than seeing a 619 skardyns

that would tilt me off the planet

[soft shale]

same reason i still copium do 8 vaults

never in my life i want that

[rotund oak]

jokes on u bros

im doing keys on my mage

[bronze pike]

Just loot ulduar trinket bro

Obvi

[balmy condor]

jokes on you

I'm not doing fucking keys

I don't have mental to lose to brainrotting in keys with fucking degenerates

and that's coming from a guy who was challenger on twisted treeline

m+ community is way fucking worse

[rotund oak]

ive bricked like 5-6 keys on my mage from tanks charging in and dying half way into pulling

what is twisted treeline

[normal mist]

Best game mode to ever exist

RIP

[balmy condor]

3v3 league of legends

[normal mist]

old twisted treeline was goated

[rotund oak]

ah i c,so its another game for wow gamers when they are bored playing wow

[kindred hinge]

oof and you were not interned ? Why inflict that to yourself that is way worse than pugging high keys

[frigid niche]

fuu!

[balmy condor]

bro I'm telling you, challenger treeline is infinitely less brainrot than pugging even vault keys

people who claim league community to be the worst in all of gaming have no sat in town queueing past vault keys in their lives

[kindred hinge]

Idk I get a few toxic player there an there, my memory of climbing any ladder in Lol was 2-3 toxic people per game

[balmy condor]

that's actual cock and ball torture

[brave carbon]

Pugging ain’t that bad if you avoid Saturday / Sunday tbh

[balmy condor]

like I'm going to punish my future children

by making them queue pug keys

[honest needle]

do we not run IC anymore for m+ ?

carnage

[balmy condor]

???????????????????????????

what the fuck

of course you do

[blazing pumice]

you know what else is a game like that

ffxiv

[honest needle]

some 1 told me no i was wrong i wanted to make sure

i was very confused

[azure osprey]

is bleed build better to use in +7s rather than hybrid?

[balmy condor]

no

never use bleed

just full hybrid always

[kindred hinge]

Used to be like that when lol got out. You had nothing to do on WOW during BC / LK after you done your raid so you grinded away on LOL with other bored wow player

[honest needle]

i love the build i just wish our single target was a bit better

[patent quail]

Hey guys, anyone knows why people gonig the " double effect of nerubian emblishment instead of crit ?"

[halcyon grail]

Nah, FFXIV is a game for furries and people with septum rings and blue hair who get panic attacks when the phone rings, @blazing pumice

[rotund oak]

yup,used to jungle rengo n stuff but im working so much now i barely have time to play,sometimes even wow.Ild like to chill a bit on mapplestory some time though

[balmy condor]

raid embellishments

[blazing pumice]

sounds perfect for sapzilla

[normal mist]

But why

[kindred hinge]

I dropped lol because of the toxicity / what it did to my mindset. I can mindlessly grind Keys in pug but playing 5c5 ? The amount of rage it generate is not fair for anyone around me

[honest needle]

will the changes comming with snd being removed and tea going passive will it make us better or not really > alot of other classes are getting nice changes im hoping we dont fall behind @balmy condor

[halcyon grail]

3/4 of FFXIV is Goldshire inn on Moonguard.

[normal mist]

Weird

i play XIV and never really interacted with people like that

[halcyon grail]

Theres maybe 10% of the pop who plays savage. (Productively.)

[kindred hinge]

Has the WA lag been resolved or is it still an issue ?

[balmy condor]

you're asking me if 1 gcd saved and a non-change is going to make us better?

no

1 gcd will not make us better

[tacit otter]

it will make us the best??? pog

[white pumice]

Are we supposed to pool energy on ST after our cds?

or just spam multi when possible

[honest needle]

are we getting anything else to make us better n do u think we will fall behjind the other class ?

[balmy condor]

yes

[halcyon grail]

Fall behind? We already behind. (Backstab joke.)

[balmy condor]

max out your envenom uptime

[loud hearth]

Crystal Ball says: maybe 🔮

[white pumice]

is there like an energy benchmark?

[balmy condor]

yeah bro reroll off of rogue immediately, we're only like 10% ahead in m+ and above average in raid, totally doomed

[kindred hinge]

Fall behind only matter if yout ry to do really high keys or a in a Race guild. Won't change anything for most people

[balmy condor]

threshold is envenom in pandemic

[loud hearth]

Now that's a joke I can get behind.

[subtle tundra]

woah whispyr lore

twisted treeline was one hell of a gamemode

[balmy condor]

mind you that's challenger in a premade with no double junger and no adc hypercarry

we played double bruiser mage like chads

[halcyon grail]

You have to or else dodge parry.

[past panther]

twisted tree line was based af

so fun

[balmy condor]

gnar + lisonna/orianna + jungle

was a good time

[rotund oak]

gnar was annoying

[subtle tundra]

GNAAAAAAR DA DA

[bronze pike]

Only tree like I did

Was Pokémon sun and moon

Battle tree

https://tenor.com/view/raichu-pokemon-gif-24675166

Behold, peak Pokémon performance

[rotund oak]

💀

ild rather play resto druid

and i rly dont like resto druid

btw dooming is real in sub channel

end-of-the-world type of thang

[mint valve]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

sub rogues not meta for first time in 5 tiers

world is melting

[bronze pike]

Sub not meta

No 3 outlaw comps

Rogue is truly joever

[balmy condor]

yeah fr

[cunning basin]

How could this happen

Woe is me

[balmy condor]

rogue just being average?

[cunning basin]

Etc

[balmy condor]

holy shit I'm jumping

no one can stop me

[mint valve]

Any of the time walking trinkets good for assa?

[balmy condor]

triple dps spec class something something

[cunning basin]

No one can stop him, and if you try, you will be immediately sent to the dh discord

[balmy condor]

wrathstone is pretty good

[mint valve]

And by good I mean better than our dungeon/raid bis?

[balmy condor]

no

[mint valve]

Ahhh okay so no reason to go crazy over time walking gotcha

[cunning basin]

Good, but not that good

[balmy condor]

blizzard has systematically nerfed anything that falls into that category every time timewalking comes around

bis from limited time event is a huge no no

[tawny junco]

Would u recommend using transmitter or skardyn in keys?

[mint valve]

No auto attack ring like last time

[balmy condor]

skardyns

what

auto attack ring is court

[bronze pike]

The tbc time walking hammer wasn’t nerfed yet

[balmy condor]

it will be

don't worry

[mint valve]

Yeah I'm just saying there's nothing crazy like that this time haha

[bronze pike]

Make it faster

I dont want to see outlaw happy

[soft shale]

that hammer is funny it would be used in sub if sht was not such a cuck for those kind of things

outlaw already swims in energy

[cunning basin]

What if assassination used warglaives

[bronze pike]

Illidan said no

[balmy condor]

you're describing a demon hunter

[cunning basin]

I'm ngl it's 6 am I should probably stop talking

[cunning basin]

Yeah but we get poison and shit instead of fire and edge

[bronze pike]

Trolls not getting glaives in their heritage armor is such a shit move tho

Especially cause nightelves have it

As sword tmogs

[stiff quiver]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cunning basin]

All 7 troll enjoyers in shambles

(jk trolls are goated)

[subtle tundra]

hi

[normal mist]

We're being called out in sub channel now

smh

[cunning basin]

What the fuck

[vestal wren]

yes

[cunning basin]

Why would you do this to us fuu

[vestal wren]

because people keep saying subtlety was bis for 5 tiers up to 6 years

idk

[cunning basin]

THE HUMANITY

[vestal wren]

i found it a bit disconnected from reality if people claim things like this

[normal mist]

Complain directly to the source!

[cunning basin]

(I don't know what's going on)

[normal mist]

The source being the purple guy

[cunning basin]

I'll have you know all I said is what if assassination used warglaives

I think that would be sick

Maybe give us a dash or smth

[past panther]

fem trolls are cute and their passive is fun

[subtle tundra]

if you play all 3 rogue specs there should be 0 complaining ever

which honestly should be the case, if you play rogue you should play all 3 specs

yes its hypocrisy

[normal mist]

Fem trolls look a bit weird to me

[bronze pike]

With all due respect fuu

[past panther]

i know all 3 specs and have played them before but all 3 specs definitely aren’t fun to me rn

[normal mist]

Me, who never played outlaw nor sub seriously... Sure!

[bronze pike]

Sub was played in a lot of keys and world firsts since its fix from shadowlands

To say it wasn’t one of the strongest rogue specs for awhile

Is kinda dishonest

[subtle tundra]

i have pushed keys as outlaw for 1 season, and progged an end boss as sub
erm

[bronze pike]

Not like sub wasn’t played in this world first either

[cunning basin]

I'm just glad I play all the specs, sub and assassination

The two rogue specs

Yep, all two of em

[bronze pike]

I don’t think sub is in a spot where it warrants this much exaggerated doom

[past panther]

at least we aren’t outlaw

[bronze pike]

Outlaw is also fine

[past panther]

it’s so lame to play

[cunning basin]

What a fuckin day it is when the consensus is "at least we aren't outlaw"

[bronze pike]

Explain

[cunning basin]

Outlaw is fun but I suck at it so I usually try to make sub or sin work

[bronze pike]

I play outlaw for fun

My hand to fucked from drawing to play it like a crackhead on cocain

Like some outlaw mains do

[cunning basin]

It's usually my key spec

[past panther]

outlaws kit is like.. the best analogy I have for it is that I’m an industrial mechanic and I’ve seen some machines so hodge podged and band aided together that they’re limping by in the most brutalized and inbred of ways

[bronze pike]

Legit 4 grapple memes in .5 patch

[past panther]

outlaw kit feels that forced together

[bronze pike]

There’s a bug where outlaws are pressing grapple so fast that it isn’t getting register in the game

“Bug”

[cunning basin]

Lmao

[bronze pike]

Definitely not outlaw mains shitting there keyboard on mach fuck

[past panther]

i know my grapple failed more than succeeded when i leveled as otl

[royal lantern]

its alwayss either "tripple dps classes should always be top dps" or "why is bm/ret doing dmg????? im playing a class that is So MuCh HaRdEr i should be top dps always!!!"

[past panther]

i want to love outlaw

i loved combat when i played it in vanilla/bc, loved it when i came back for mop and into wod and even wanted to like it in legion/bfa

but don’t like how the street fighter duelists only viable options for dmg is abusing vanish for subterfuge windows that don’t work 40% of the time

it’s so lame

[bronze pike]

Fair enough

Fix vanish bugs and it’s digestable

[past panther]

make outlaw an actual fighter

some kind fo weapons master or highwayman

[bronze pike]

To me crackshot was a monkey paw

[past panther]

keep the guns

[bronze pike]

I wanted bte to do damage again and it does

In the worst fucking way

[grim jay]

but rogue only has 2

[broken chasm]

If I made a campaign once, do I have to do it on every alt??

[cunning basin]

No

[vagrant moat]

dp we have anyething for this affix

[past panther]

like if you read the flavor text of all three specs to someone the only one that sounds like its description sort of is assassination

[bronze pike]

Idk that I don’t agree with

Blasting a shotgun from stealth isn’t bad fantasy

Your legit blasting your shotgun

Just pretend your stealth isn’t stealth or something

[cunning basin]

Dwarf and cloak

[past panther]

cloak of shadows, crimson vial, health pots, applicable racials

ya but the idea of having to basically restealth mid combat on cooldown to proc subterfuge so that you can be ‘sneaky’ again

that sounds way more like sub than otl

[cunning basin]

Vial does help a decent amount if you're running iron stomach, I would not recommend potting or cloaking your debuff off unless you're incredibly desperate tho lmao

[past panther]

thematically it’s just lame

yeh

[cunning basin]

Like I've done it don't get me wrong... But at what cost...

[royal lantern]

nothing really

[royal lantern]

lol

vial heals 24% instead of 20%

HUGE value

iron stomach

[cunning basin]

It is

Giga value

That's like

If you think about it

25% extra healing

[royal lantern]

im convinced that most people legit think it means "vial heals 45% max hp"

[cunning basin]

I do love my health pots basically being a lay on hands tho

[ancient pendant]

20% -> 25%

not 24%

[royal lantern]

tbf, thats just early expac healpots, they where so strong on DF launch aswell

[cunning basin]

Vial... Ehhh. It's there. I press it. Everyone should press it. But I'm not excited about it

[cunning basin]

Imagine a world where vial did that tho

What glorious wonders could be beheld

[royal lantern]

sounds like the average "free mage deffensive talent that you get without any drawbacks"

[cunning basin]

Don't even get me started on mages man fuck that class

What it must be like to be the fucking main character of the game "uwu daddy blizz my class isn't top dps and also is slightly killable can u pls fix 🥺👉👈"

Blizz: "why ofc my little princess let's go ahead and aura buff here, bug fix there, and to top it off a little extra xD damage hopefully that's enough for u"

Fk mage

😠

[soft shale]

fire was not op for 3 weeks

let that one sink in

how dare they

[cunning basin]

Honestly

It's actually insane that blizz does this shit to fire every expansion

Underperforming? Buff buff buff OH WHOA now it's top DPS how could this happen for the 10th tier in a row?!

We ONLY gave them a cumulative 30% buff over 3 weeks!

-_-

[past panther]

it was funny watching my fire mage friend cope on the first 2-3 weeks

doing healer dmg in his cd’s

[soft shale]

now they do 15m again in cds

meanwhile i can use my aoe cd 5 times in 20 secs

[past panther]

Yep <:

[soft shale]

fucking my entire dungeon dps

and still not break 10m

[past panther]

it’s a good life

/s

mage is almost always my 2nd alt but I don’t like what they did to frost nor do I care for fire or arcane

so i am at a loss on what to even alt

[grim jay]

you can think of it as you vanish to sneakily reload your gun and then shoot it

subter isnt stealth anyways

[past panther]

not anymore

sub is weeb ninja class

[grim jay]

subter=subterfuge

[soft shale]

sub is rock lee

[past panther]

oh

[soft shale]

always gets cucked

[past panther]

lol

[grim jay]

also sub not being the stealth spec makes sense

since stealth is a class feature

[past panther]

i liked the direction they had in legion

[grim jay]

and they moved all of it to dance

[past panther]

most of the stealth benefits were ripped from outlaw/assassin and kept on sub

but sin and outlaw were given their own more unique identifiers

[grim jay]

yeah but stealth is as much a class thing for rogue as magic is for mage

[cunning basin]

I'm rocking enh shaman > havoc dh as my other alts this go round

[past panther]

i definitely don’t disagree

on the flip side, handle it like druid or mage

it’s there, it isn’t always used, if anything it’s passable utility

[cunning basin]

Havoc is pretty sick, enh does way too much damage sometimes and just a little too much damage if you're really unlucky

[past panther]

stealth for non cats as a Druid, shifting into bear to soak dmg in pvp

[grim jay]

idk why druid has stealth in the first place, but I'm also not a lore guy

[tall jay]

!Models

[past panther]

my normal alts as i slowly get saturated in xpacs goes like rogue main > frost mage > bm hunter > druid

[tall jay]

what's the command for the models?

[grim jay]

I and most probably we all

[past panther]

it transcends lore and goes back to vanilla with the rule of cool as cat = graceful and graceful almost synonym to something sneaky

[grim jay]

dont know what you mean with models

[tall jay]

to check for the weak aura things for FPS

[cunning basin]

Huh

[grim jay]

its on wago

on every single WA

it says if it uses models that affect fps currently

[tall jay]

dont we have a script or something that shows up which WA has them? I swear I saw floating around earlier?

[balmy condor]

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[tall jay]

Thanks Whispyr

[grim jay]

looks like I still have a ton of them

kinda looks like all the afenar WAs

[bronze pike]

Crispy whispy is distracted

No mods

Go wild

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657323960496553985/1289169185775292459/CatGlassOfWater1.gif

[autumn remnant]

yo, is there a scenario where we ct in st

[past panther]

nope

[grim jay]

if you have it talented yes

but its really minor and arguably not worth doing

[balmy condor]

I have two eyes

one for each channel

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-rapid-eyes-moving-eyes-squint-rem-gif-6920795604572906371

[past panther]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-eyes-steve-buscemi-big-eyes-gif-5312326

[bronze pike]

No third eye

For outlaw

[balmy condor]

my third eye opened

saw outlaw

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-hotdog-wizard-cat-hot-dog-gif-1543345772037504734

[balmy condor]

and then immediately closed

[bronze pike]

Fucking valid

[past panther]

outlaw channel is the daycare for iPad/adhd kids

[balmy condor]

like a black hole collapsing in on itself

[past panther]

can’t stop mashing, can’t stop adadadadad-ing

it’s like every bad quality of feral druid players

[bronze pike]

Shadowdust dead

All hail shadowdust

[grim jay]

wait until the first message(s) is something like
"man downtime
sucks so bad
for outlaw
while its not
that bad
on other specs"

and it sucks out a part of your brain

[pastel apex]

someone got mplus spec for assa??

[balmy condor]

!guide

wtf

either way

any guide

[pastel apex]

!guide

[subtle tundra]

google

wow assassination rogue

[pastel apex]

ok

[subtle tundra]

yw

[tall jay]

I have 1 😄 Whipyr's WA's fixed most of the AFner ones

[grim jay]

ye but all the afenar WAs for other classes

[vestal wren]

!guide

is moroes sleeping

you sleep @prisma monolith ?

[prisma monolith]

not anymore, stop poking me

[vestal wren]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[worldly sail]

subs

[normal mist]

It's alright guys, i didn't even want to do a key today or anything...
Narrator: It was not alright.

[past panther]

you’re gonna get skardyns from your vault just run your own key

[pliant remnant]

[normal mist]

Last time i tried that, i understood how bad my choices are

tank/dps premade bricked my key

tank COMPLAINED in mists that we didnt help him interrupt... the boss...

[past panther]

hahahaha well at least you get 50 gold and vault progress from a bricked key

that’s better than no key

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/julesmaru-really-gif-20304655

[past panther]

lmao

[normal mist]

this might work

[grim jay]

just tell them how its your EU rogue

and that one guy (pick someone from rio) is your main on NA

[storm hedge]

Yeah had the same problem until I hit 626 Ilvl and 2.4k score

[fickle siren]

!tott

[normal mist]

im stuck at 618

[normal mist]

!tricks

what

!tot

hm

[fickle siren]

😄

[pliant remnant]

moroes

[normal mist]

!fuu

yeah

moroes down

[merry bison]

how much gilded harbinger crests drop on a +8?

cant find a list

[normal mist]

the same as a +9

12

[spice surge]

12 or 5

[twin plume]

usually 5

[spice surge]

Same as other crests

[normal mist]

5 if deplete

[merry bison]

aight ty

and uuhhhh

whats the name again for the extra socket on the neck

i might be dumb

[spice surge]

Setting

[merry bison]

ty ❤️

[subtle tundra]

😔

[cunning basin]

This is so real

Meanwhile my 613 enh shaman has no problems getting into 10s which I have 0 timed

[magic fossil]

hey best theory crafts in this planet, what did you guiys crafted with 4 spark?

[cunning basin]

"PCT?" "Yeah" invites

[grim jay]

whatever sims highest for you

[normal mist]

whatever i was missing

so i crafted a ring and a neck

[magic fossil]

thats why i paid you Davyn, whatever sims highest

[normal mist]

this gets better

[magic fossil]

we will talk in the end of month

[grim jay]

its the only right answer

[magic fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/xluna-high-five-gif-25422702

[grim jay]

that looks like if I were to queue for 10s with 600 ilvl

[normal mist]

im 618, 2k rio, applying to 7's 8's

[grim jay]

thats kinda rough

[normal mist]

its ALWAYS like this

[cunning basin]

Fuck man. That shit is brutal but I feel you

[normal mist]

im so tired of trying

[grim jay]

idk I'm never behind

and with alts I only queue with guildies

but I can see it always being like that

[cunning basin]

I've had to do all my keys with guildies cuz it usually takes me ~3 hours to get into a key only for someone to leave after 1 pull

[grim jay]

like on every key you queue there will always be 40 dps with 625

[cunning basin]

Like why even bother lol

[normal mist]

my guildies do not do keys

and the one who does, is doing 11s

i aint beg for carries

[cunning basin]

Fuck. Yeah idk. Shits rough out here

I ain't got any good advice but I feel the pain

[grim jay]

can look for communities

[acoustic pendant]

i need to know what the f breaks my stealth in every pack in maze

is it a bug ?

[grim jay]

the packs

[normal mist]

the packs appearing animation

[grim jay]

if you go too close and they spawn

[normal mist]

stay back a bit

[grim jay]

they break stealth

[normal mist]

moroes is down

[fringe oxide]

Apologies

I did not know

[quartz cloak]

It’s so awful when you fall behind the curve at start of a season it’s crazy..

[normal mist]

I hate doing keys

now i hate it even more

[quartz cloak]

Especially when you don’t bring much utility in the view of mainstream community

[fringe oxide]

[normal mist]

If i could raid the whole day

i would

[fringe oxide]

Same brother

[quartz cloak]

If you get invited or not is so heavily linked on communities perception if your spec is S or not

[subtle tundra]

Nah cap

try doing splits

[normal mist]

But it seems like this expac will turn into a raid logging simulator

[quartz cloak]

Like I get easier invites on my aug with less gear and shit just cause ppl still think it’s good in low keys lmao

[subtle tundra]

so has every expansion been if you dont do m+

[cunning basin]

I love m+ but I can't stand how fucking hard people meta chase in like 8s and 9s

[normal mist]

i usually do portals and call it a season

aka +20 (+10)

[fringe oxide]

I know this is a dumb take but I can spam the same dungeon over and over again. Why can't I have raid fights on heroic over and over again or maybe with a daily lockout or so.

[normal mist]

i know my shit in dungeons

[cunning basin]

Like these are not hard keys you do not need a resto shaman blood dk fire mage or whatever the fuck the meta is

[subtle tundra]

i have missed portals just cause i couldnt be arsed

[normal mist]

but since we're not meta

[normal mist]

oh ME TOO

[subtle tundra]

we literally are meta

Bro

fym

tune into any rogue stream

and they top dps

in keys

[cunning basin]

Tell that to the dipshits I queue into

🤷

[normal mist]

the big list of declines i have proves that wrong

seems like we aint meta enough

[cunning basin]

I know assa is good as fuck in keys

[quartz cloak]

Ppl haven’t catched up on how good rogue is currently

[fringe oxide]

We know that we're good. But they don't know.

[cunning basin]

But dumb fucks don't

[subtle tundra]

i opened a casualaddict's stream 15 min ago

he did 500k more overall than both the other dps

a boomy and a fdk

[normal mist]

Varas thats not the point brother

[subtle tundra]

that is beyond op

[cunning basin]

My guild tanks goes out of his way to run with me bc iron wire is like unironically one of the strongest talents in m+ lmao

[normal mist]

WE know we are good

other people look at us and be like "this yellow isnt blue, BLUE or red"

[cunning basin]

But the idiots in lfg? They don't know what iron wire is, and they don't care

They heard Max say frost dk is opop or whatever and now they think they need a frost dk in every key

[fringe oxide]

Doesn't increase their dps or doesn't res them when they're dead

[cunning basin]

Yup

Like I said, my 2200 613 enhance shaman gets into keys easier than my 2500 626 rogue.

Not that enhance is bad, but one of those is definitely stronger than the other.

[subtle tundra]

well

shaman has poison totem

[fringe oxide]

Pack dying at the same time but gaining dps on the metre? Obviously. Prio damage so pack dies more equally and lose some dps? Never.

[quartz cloak]

The other problem is, we don’t bring dispells, CR or lust so ppl fill up spots with other classes. And on top you are queuing with another 40 dps who are farming something and have 2.7 rio and 625 gs

[subtle tundra]

being able to solo the affix in 1 button is pretty much better than anything rogue can do

[quartz cloak]

So the chances are so small

[grim jay]

can just chainpull if they dont die equally

[indigo comet]

hey
Which have more prio on single target
applying Deathsalker from the envenom buff then putting dots
or applying garrote and rupture then applying deathstalker

[fringe oxide]

Preferably with one mob alive and at 5% health

[grim jay]

for me raiding is more stressful and im fine with the usual times tbf

[normal mist]

I'm an heroic andy

[grim jay]

thats not chainpulling, thats trolling

[normal mist]

so im chillin

[fringe oxide]

Me too and I freaking love it

[fringe oxide]

I'd rather not speak to my tanks. They might get the wrong impression.

[subtle tundra]

yea i refrain from trying to teach people things

cause they cant take it well

[fringe oxide]

I only talk to people in my guild and sometimes if I think they'd rather me be quiet about it I stop talking.

[subtle tundra]

i sometimes meow and bark

and say random shit, like "let me suck you"

pretty helpful imo

[cunning basin]

I don't say shit to most of my guildies bc I review our logs every night and the logs like to tattle on the people trolling in prog

[fringe oxide]

If that works to help you out socially I don't see why not

[cunning basin]

I'm boutta join your guild hol up

I mostly say stupid shit like "someone stream for me, I looooove watching"

[fringe oxide]

Watching a stream of your peeps doing stuff goes hard though. It's the next best thing to getting invited

[cunning basin]

Oh yeah I love when people stream in discord so I can live vicariously through them

[normal mist]

PS im still getting declined

[grim jay]

you could get more rio and queue for farm afterwards

but since you dont like m+

[normal mist]

how do i farm rio

if i cant get into keys

[grim jay]

noone queues for like 9s

or whatever you need

so you are more likely to get accepted

everyone and their mother queues for 7s/8s

[fallen arch]

Current score?

[normal mist]

2k

[fallen arch]

Ye gotta slowly work up

[normal mist]

i have the perfect meme

[compact crown]

hahaha they buffed powder so hard that it broke the tooltip or what

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[pliant remnant]

[past panther]

make your own

[kindred hinge]

I mean, play your key ?

[past panther]

it’s better than doing none

[normal mist]

Im not good at making choices and i invite the wrong people

[strange python]

Damn got muted for 10 hours for trolling someone in the discord, whistl being called stupid?

[normal mist]

also some dumb fucks bricked my key

[kindred hinge]

Because it's that all thhe way to the top until you are like in the top 50 and then ususally youhave a team anyway

[strange python]

How sensitive have people become

[kindred hinge]

If youw ant to climp you should forget about "dumb people bricking a key". Will that happen ? Yes, do you have any control over that ? Nope . So focus on what you can do

[normal mist]

I can't tank nor heal nor teach a tank that only him can interrupt the 2nd boss of mists

[kindred hinge]

We also tend to conveniently forget that we cana lso brick keys time to time, sometimes youa re unlucky or having a bad key. It sucks for the holder, but it evens out

[normal mist]

also i'm bad at choosing people

[normal mist]

idk, to this day i can't remember a single time i've been the reason that a group bricked a key

but again, i dont push high keys

[kindred hinge]

Yeah that's Human psychology. We are really really abd at seeing our own mistakes 🙂 And when we see it we forget them easily

[normal mist]

I'm not trying to say that i'm better than everyone else or anything

[past panther]

only way to get better is to do it

[fiery ore]

Ye u just go next can’t brick/get them bricked all the time

[past panther]

i don’t get why it’s such a big deal

ur key obviously isn’t valuable to u from the jump if you never do it

it’s like hoarding money but never spending it

has no value it u don’t use it

[kindred hinge]

Best way to do for you is to tag your key, when you find a good tank. add him and go duo that will solve most of your issues. You can do the same with heal but they are less scarces

[past panther]

it’s just a key

[normal mist]

This is the first season where i've seen this happen to me, thats why im sad

[past panther]

M+ audience got way more toxic for a few reasons

Delves + raid combo yoinking away a ton of the chill heroic andy populace

the longer online gaming has went on the easier it’s been to spread meta ideas

and a lot of the ppl that sit there reading sims/ptr logs pre launch don’t stay up to date

[kindred hinge]

And there is no good way to choose people. Rio ? Doesnt really matter. Everyone and their mother can be 2k7 for example at the moment because the 12s were such a big step up. Meaning that you have a high variation of skills for the same range. Applies also to lower range.

Logs ? Raid and M+ are different environment .
MEta ? Fuck meta.

Just pick and try and add people that perf very well

[past panther]

the only ppl I don’t invite are azralon/rag alts

[kindred hinge]

As desu say it's just a key, if you deplete you go next and up it

[past panther]

sometimes dropping it doesn’t even hurt cause then if u get like a +5 key it’ll be rly easy to go up 2 or 3 levels

and 7’s/8’s fill soooo fast now

[normal mist]

took me 30 minutes to find a tank

on a +7

._.