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I also didn’t realize that echoing was going full passive
I’m gonna have so many open keybinds in two weeks
er change is comfy
i'm gonna miss echoing
i mean same and not same
Its just as good as shrouded and dashing 
yeah
i like thought about the energy intake
and like looked at your poison ticks and realized
All the cov abilities had a satisfying sound when you pressed them. Of all them SBS was the least satisfying and that’s the only one we keep
new sbs is based
I love the ability itself, i’m just talking “buttons you press that make a sound that make a dopamine “
ah
fair
the best sound in the game is ace proc and it's not even close
Sepsis sound made my brain go 😄
true and based
Maybe I’m just too old for outlaw but the ace sound stressed me out lol
it was nice because it always felt like you heard it just a hair faster than like your weakauras update
o 
but that is true yeah
I’m gonna do so much gliding in two weeks
Man I absolutely hated playing sepsis
fella like me just didn’t gaf ab the game at that time
i didn't play legion but now that i've played kingsbane i guess everyone who had played with kingsbane were just mad it wasn't kb
I watched pika quite a bit and he always played sepsis
yeh
cuz it actually really wrecks someone in pvp and you get a surprise garrote silence after
etc
or a surprise cheap
sepsis is sub only
no garrote
W
i'm surprised they didn't give it to sin and not sub
but i guess it's cuz you still use sepsis in sub pvp
Thankful we didn’t get it because it would probably be BIS for us
why give the dot spec the dot
that's silly
idk i enjoy how sepsis plays, 1:30 is just a weird timer
did that happen
ye
oh was it like the weird you play flag sepsis on sub thing
I disliked the janky timing where you need to hold it for the last 0.1s of the buff to garrote
No sin played sepsis
kinda ironic how sub got both sepsis and flag tho
For 2 more weeks ye, but sepsis is getting cut for sub too
but i do like / prefer current iteration of bone skipe
As it shouldve been when it got removed for assa and outlaw
you know
toxic onslaught would actually own right now

it was like when you used the ability you got blades? or something
yeh i found it
Toxic onslaught was cool af
tbh there's one thing that lives rent free in my head in slands
it's the torghast power
that was vendetta grants ar grants blades grants vendeta
that was the most powerful i've ever felt pressing a button
LOL
i played monk in torghast, i just went pack to pack aoe touch of death with no cd
my health got buffed by like 2 /3 x or sometihng
so you legit just one sphot packs
there was one torghast power in there, and it had to do with sepsis, and mawrats
where it did insane damage if you hat like a mawrat on top of a boss
u enjoy ceverions or whispys plater more for m+?
i stole whispyrs and made it my own
this
but like the actual most powerful setup for us it hink was just
the ER combo point spetn resets ER
and getting the finisher boosts builder dmg
that you could get like multiples of
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and just walk up and do like ER + any finisher into ER + any finisher over and over

now that i'm looking back at these, i can see like the prototyping in terms of current design
https://i.imgur.com/ZeLmIKd.png this was surely what became carnage
Never happening cause pvp
but much like the step gives you a billion dmg one, i'm glad they didn't go down that route
Shadowstep in my dps rotation
it was the best way to do the boss rush at the end
getting the step triggers vial cloak or evasion etc
and vial triggers feint and feint resets step
so you just spammed the button cuz you would have infinite cloak/evasion
https://i.imgur.com/rfELxrc.png wait, why is THIS not under supercharger
casting deathmark/blades/ar will give you
oh actually i know why
outlaw ruins everything 
do you guys know what ids or what the names of these debuffs are in plater? i want to turn them off
I know that the right one is Hunt them down but putting hunt them down on my blocked list doesnt really do much, it still is being shown
Bruh why isn't the parse getting updated on my profile? It's been a week.
Can see the parse on the logs, but not on profile

Have you updated your profile
Yes yes
same i have 100s on every boss not showing
Yeah my wlogs is super whack
I’m r1 on every boss but it doesn’t show
She goes to another school btw
Need advice on which slot to craft. All gear except head is hero track
weapon
I mean which should I prioritize crafting
weapon
weapon
And for 2nd craft?
boots/waist/wrist
Hero knife and skardyns
bracer or ring
I’ll slit my wrist
Heya excuse me but is some1 know why my twitch didnt get linked on raiderio when i did
it might take a bit to load the changes
Can you also tell which embellishment for or link a site for the weapon?? I currently dont know where to look
pro tip when applying posions, if you hold the click and drag to the other poison you need to apply and then release the poison menu wont close
idk if its known xd
or just keybind them
true i guess
Yo guys how do you have your layout in m+? Like I have combo points over the health bars but then I can't see shit in big pulls and interrupting is a mess.
Someone said it may be due to illegal logs because of very high number of buffs or double Pi-ing
Or use the WA that pops up in the middle of your screen outside of combat that you can just click and it applies the poisons
do yall use ambush when stealthed? wondering if ambush needs to b on my bar or not
Ive heard those are somewhat shit performance wise, but its really neat
Thank you!
doubt it, its only 1 boss it happens to
Do you equip this main hand or offhand?
Highest ilvl in the mainhand always
Offhand ilvl largely irrelevant
the least impactful slot there is out of all of your items
Hey, I am new to Assassiniation. Is there a point when energy regen starts to feel good?
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
Oh, thanks!
Thank you!
are you playing deathstalker
you can only apply deathstalker mark via ambush, unless you have the darkest night buff
when i craft this, does it matter if i buy rank 3 reagents?
cus im thinking its just the crest?
nah can be r1 reagents
aight ty
no it doesnt
i think no one answered, but yes we use ambush especially as deathstalker
oh heck
someone answered
u think 
i blame not scrolling all the way down 
If Deathstalker you need to use Ambush as your first global out of stealth to apply Deathstalkers Mark
i think transmitter is stronger but skardyn is just easier to use
don't tell me i wasted 30 dungeons just to get skardyn and its behind trasmitter
i do have it
Theyre about the same
Skardyn stronger in dungeons, same for st
But you dont need to catch the orb/jump/stand in the circle with skardyn, so most people prefer that
actually mayb is there macro that can swap between ambush and mut depending on stealh or no stealth?
or is that also bad?
Why don’t you just dif bars for stealth bars
If you've disabled it swapping your stealth bar and regular bar sure
ya i dont like paging
Tbh
The migraine transmitter gives makes you play worse
is someone here to help me, I need improvement, I think I do not master something on my rogue this season with the new changes, and I dont know what tbh, I have no problems in dungeons, but in raid I'm feeling a bit down on bosses like ovinax (hm) or ulgraxx (in mm)
idk i feel like skardyn is stronger in execute with cd
Skardyns on-use is significantly weaker than transmitter
The sims have an execute phase
The passive agi is stronger than the passive haste
Is it trans + grace in st or MqM + grace
Ah aight
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@winged sun tell nextback to press kick and defensives
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How big is the queen ring for assa rogue should I spend a full day trying to kill queen on hc?
its good for...
everyone
free dmg is free dmg
I WAS FINALLY INVITED TO AN 8
AND KICKED 5 SECS LATER
How hard is Assa to get into compared to Sub?
Way more intuitive
Its wayyyy harder than sub
Sub is just very unintuitive
What
Are we okay

🤣
Each to their own I guess
But the general consensus would be quite the opposite
What do you press as sub on aoe?
Vs assa
just finished my first assa dg and this is my overall. Can you guys give me any tips?
????
Trickster evisc
Your caustic spatter is very low
on assa you mean?
That’s sin yes
Lets ask the pro's bro
Let’s ask them then 
I'm saying assa is harder than sub
By a mile
?
It’s not
By a mile
How is it not hahahhah
How is it?
I assume you're talking about dungeons
Sins difficulty definitely goes up in aoe
because in single target Assa couldn't be easier
Compared to st
Well idk
But it still does the same things while sub especially now that bp is worth pressing again
Lets count the diff buttons pressed? shall we
And while sub's complexity is less than it has been in the past now that it's 1.5m with vanish locked into cd windows isntead of being cd alignment tool on prog
it's still more complex and more reactive
right now
Buttons pressed does not equal hard bro
Also
Then what does matter? snapshoting procs?
Yeah, also I'm pretty sure they're basically the same if not sub is slightly more?
and it doesn't matter
Sub pressed the same amount of buttons?
I doubt that
Snapshotting procs???
Which procs???
I'm asking you

It's all subjective anyways
the question
you are allowed to think that sin is harder than sub
I just personally disagree

And I don't know that I can even see how you'd make that determination for what makes sin hard
But that's just me
I use cast sequence macros so both specs are easy
Hahahahaha
By diffictulty, easiest to hardest, : sub assa outlaw? @strange python
I seemed to have struck a nerve with my qwuestioning 🙍♂️ My b
If you cant agree to this
You're that sub rogue that never wants to play outlaw or assa
Assa - outlaw/sin
Here you go
It's ok, welcome to Ravenholdt Kind person.
No matter hhow good it is
I play sin in keys
But ok
Thanks for being stupid
Let me guess you're playing sub every key
hahah
love some bad faith arguments in the morning
I played sin before I played sub
Everybody love everybody 🙂
It’s so good ur assuming stuff
Is there an argument to be made to learn the other specs? I play sin in everything
Im just profiling you based on your bias towards sub being hard
You can basicly macro everything togheter in sub and do mad damage bruv, but sub is braindead till cds is up.
No I’m not 
I play both specs
On different fights
And sin in keys
Yes and you fail at assa minmax
Just play whatever the fuck you want tbh
No CD's is absolutely brutal
I have no bias
Yeah sure bro how do you know that 
Grim Batol first boss, dropping rock spikes, does feint reduce the dmg of that?
almost certain
if u talent it
Im competitive. I like to play whats best
send me 1 of your assa raid logs please I wanna see how you play
Bro hahahaha
WHO are you
Yes, because having new experiences is a Good Thing even if they end up being worse in the end. Expand your horizons and see what else life has to offer. Even if you don't like it how in the end you learned something new 
you mean with Elusiveness?
its crazy how the change to gildeds from +8 has opened up group finder
You just spit things in here
the one you choose instead of cheat death
Would have to check the io stats then. Its Sin and Outlaw post 10s atm
I bet you think sub plays storm bp spam in m+
im actually getting invites to 7's bc people want to +1 to 8
Exactly as I've thought
And that’s all it does
ok and you are certain it doesnt reduce dmg by default?
you use secret tech on max macabre stacks and thats the big deal?
So wrong lmfao
So you have no clue
But ur just saying things
Send me your log lil bro
I wanna see it
Your best assa log
„Lil bro“
Ur actually cooked
Im avging about 1.4milli in dungos as sin. Maybe Ill try some other specs just to see what theyre like
Send us yours delxen
Test it out. If the ability is regarded AoE by the system then feint reduces the damage by default.
Lol mf thinks you use sectec on max stacks
I'm not the one saying that assa is easy compared to sub???
i just know eleem is eating this up rn
Nvm him man he dropped lil bro nothing coming out of his mouth is relevant at all anymore
somewhere in the distance
Assa is ez compared to sub bro
What am i eating
🤣
That's what I'm asking, I just had an everything bagel with some chive cream cheese
the infinite cycle of arguments between difficulty
Some coffee
XD
Well no it was lamb stew+fresh sourdough with parsley butter
Holy fuck that blows my basic ass food out of the water
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
why not
If you made it 3 days ago it then it would speak for assas simplicity rather than against it
blue parse at 605 ilvl?
I'm not
I just find it funny how someone that is 3 days into the spec just knows it’s harder than the other spec
I'm just saying assa is harder than sub
(He would parse lower if he tried)
No its not
Go ahaed
Go log the same boss
As sub
Tell me what happens
Bro I legit read both wowhead rotation guides

well you did do the opener
Fuck okay
and burst wrong
Good night
Hahaha he got you bad bruv
yes 
But seriously sub is harder than assa
Armin rn
Sory bro
Fr
I haven’t been baited in a long time
He even called me stupid
xD
Deserved on that comment
Hahaha whispyr in disguise or?!
Anlaki bro
Daddy chill
I am also psure he wasn’t baiting and is riding the wave now but all good
maybe a stupid question but does caustic splatter have pandemic?
no, it has a max duration of 10s and always applies 10s
Have no fucking clue how sub works
Just said you said sub was harder
And i went the other way
Read the guide quick to get some info out
Sub meta in keys bro
I wish
mood
So you're saying this was a deliberate ruse because you wanted to have a jolly time and it was funny?
My boy kush destroys in keys
Kush is kush
We are kush
I started digging but you guys gave me a better showel lets put it that way 😄
sub is harder to get right with cds
He was probably testing the bp thingy
Or he was bored
What key is that
sin i play it not even well and its better than my best at sub in keys
12 grim ba
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If you want to play sub well, you probably need full premade and have a tank pull around your cds. Meanwhile assa just do 3mill no matter what
Tbh thats not much for an aug group
Couldve done more if he went assa for sure yea
!mute @strange python 10h ragebait/trolling - Thanks for admitting it, appreciate the documentation.
Could also have been bad pulls tbh
watching the ovinax suffering from bench is good
His own char Frame and target frame not being on the same hight tilts me
thats our weird balance. I've never seen a normal balance

I didn’t know baiting is getting moderated like this

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qXyaRVtj7ZMr8n3Q#fight=1&type=casts&source=23&view=timeline
Can someone explain to me why with Master Assassin he doesnt vanish later (in the last the 3s of kingsbane) ?
It historically generally has been. It deliberately obfuscates the conversation in a place people are coming to learn about the class.
^
That shit was comical what the fuck
queue simulator is the worst and it legit makes me not want to play lol
BUT WE GOTTA PUSH THROUGH IT
atleast i capped out my vault so i can run 7s for the trinket
Are there specific slots we want for tier? or is it just whatever we can get our hands on? Playing a rogue as my alt
Think chest is the worst of the bunch but not 100%
So basically whatever you can get then sim around what you have available if you have all 5
New alt so not a lot of gear worth using catalyst on
I do have hero 610 shoulders
so I guess ill convert those
For m+ do we sim dslice or patch 5 targets?
Can run a droptimizer to see which piece is your biggest gain
there is something wild you can do
to not play queue simulator
usually chest is worst / legs are best but sim your character to be sure
Obfuscate is one of the dopest words, ur so real for using it in a sentence natty like that
ty all

Reroll
i have no tanks applying for my key now
its a forever Q simulator
Legit reroll unless you don’t enjoy the fotm classes cause rn community thinks you can’t time a + without enhancer fdk and mage/aug
are enhancers more popular than rets?
its legit just finding people to run with
for whenever you play
not just per dungeon
ez, problem solved
just a tank or a heal and you are fine
Depends what key lvls u run but ye
Community is broken
and have been for a while now
its legit the same as it has been since shadowlands
atleast
nothing new, nothing to be surprised about
i've seen a long list of "delist" or "decline" this whole day
i have a question. Inside deathmark + kingsbane we spam envenom because our energy regen is big enough to witstand it, but inside the small burts window with only kingsbane do we spam envenoms ? or just keep buff uptime ? (this question is for ST because i know in aoe we spam envenoms)
Forever you mean
If you are looking for 10 keys and already have done an Eleven, easy invite. If you have only done a nine, no invite
You still wanna chain env as much as you can within ur energy levels
more env=more kb dam
Hello fellow backstabbers, i'm wondering which neck is better for mm+. Any advices ?
Ask robot
so you mean like you would do aswell if it was your key and you were inviting people
Ask robot, but probably Trailspinner
ask robot but ill say trailspinner becaus mastery
Sim tells me Sureki is better for single target, trailspinner for dungeon slice
dont ask robot, its trailspinner
Theres ur answer
Then use Trailspinner when you're slicing up dungeons
because haste isnt great for aoe
Yeah that what i though
so kinda an expected result
so based on how much energy i enter the only kingsbane (no deathmark) i use envenoms
i should enter kingsbane window with atleast 60% or more energy right ?
yeah have bleeds refreshed and then chain env as much as u can
sometime i used solo kb with 100 energy
and then i had no envenoms xd
so now it makes sense
Hey guys noob rogue here just getting my feet wet in m+. Other than plater and a general class wa are there any other recommended weak auras or addons for doing m+?
can the blind dmg reduction effect work on bosses?
!tricks
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
this one if you use it
Hey fellas, can i get grim batol loot table in vault even if i havent done grim batol that week? bad luck g etting grim batol groups
Yes, the m+ row pulls from all dungeons
and id say a wa for shroud timing if you do some skip after that, it depends what you use/need i presonnaly use twwdungeaon wa aswell, removed blizzard ui and use a m+ timer wa for that
Regardless of what you've done
whats the most optimal way to use deathmark? and is it purely for ST?
i forgot to backup my weakauras, anyone have the one for tracking poisons, pops up in the middle of the screen when they have 20 min remaining and you can click it to apply them?
ambush first gcd except if you can apply it with max cp envenom
and it work in aoe too really good
"do your own key"
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should always try to use it in every situation application depend on do u have time to apply it with max cp envenom before the buff is gone
thanks!
put it on your prio target in packs
Is the tww dungeon wa similar to dbm but just better?
I would love something that tells me when I should be using a defensive for unavoidable dmg
In that vein feint only reduces aoe dmg right?
imo yes
ok so how does it work with aoe? i was under the impression it buffs damage against one target
yes without elusiveness (cheat death node, other talent)
Thank you
most of assa aoe comes from caustic spatter damage
Optimal rotation and minimizing downtime
does it duplicate bleeds from indiscriminate carnage?
not the ones that cleave, only the one on your target
afaik
Does duplicate bleeds mean 2 bleeds?
So like 2 instance of garrote and rupture on one enemy
For single target would u recomend to expend cp on Carmesi bleed diwith al single bleeds and posioms and then use deathMark+kings?
Or only. dM instead on raid?
huh
i read deathstalker mark not death mark x)
Deathstalker mark i now opening with ambush
well death mark is just the big burst button that you can use on aoe too just on the big target with caustic so it spread some dmg too
And when does causistic activates?
when target has rupture and you mutilate them
last 10 sec
only 1 target can have it
so ambush into DM , KB, garrote, rupture, mutilate then envenom? not sure exactly when to use shiv
on wowhead the rotation i well explained
Ambush>rupture>bleeds>rupture> DeathMark,m?
yes even has illustration and what to remove if you want to speed up the opener
i see that shiv is between DM and KB, is that ideally when to use it? what if DM is on cd?
in AOE you shiv the last 7s of kb
in ST with 2 shivs you shiv before KB and the last 7s of kb
what crit are we aiming for , in dungeons?
its dm > shiv > kb and shiv again at the last 7s ok KB
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
and with only one shiv its DM> KB > shiv at the last 7 sec of kb
with only one shiv if you'r perfect player
you can shiv / kb / dm on cd after the first opener cause it should just repeat and stay in sync
its better to shiv the end of kb
Can you macro so you can cast all 4 poisons with 1 button
probably, don't have one tho
so shiv before kb and the last 7 secs ensures it stays up throughout KB from wat i understand
yes but in m+ you only have one shiv
so the last 7 s of kb are the more valuable
so you keep shiv for that time
probably with a castsequence, I haven't tried it
something like /castsequence reset=10 Deadly Poison, Amplifying Poison, Atrophic Poison, Crippling Poison
I just have the poison tab on my screen and I click it
Because some builds use different poisons
any of you got experience with the crystal boss in stone vault on 12 or higher as assa rogue, where do you use your cds? i feel like if i pop on boss while he keeps spawning crystals, i tend to caustic spatter cleave them sometimes and wipe the group 😦 do you save your cds for the shield phase?
iF PLAYING iMP GAR SHOULD I BE TALENTING dASHING SCOUNDREL OF sHROUDED SUFRICATION ?
firguve my caps
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Did a few try and we did not deplete because of this one who was relativemy smooth. What I did was to keep CD for shield (since anyway they will end when he is not shielded anymore so you combine the dmg for shield to the end part of KB for boss damage. And for shard I just rupture all of them and splatter them passively hitting boss
But I had a Ret and a boomie doing the rest of the job on shards
Has Whysper WA been update with the current WA issue ?
ty for the idea! i am still experimenting but since im mostly pugging its not so easy to consolidate
hello, what are the best poisons for m+?
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
Was in pug too but I got into the habits of always discussin Skarmo from the runs on the firt week where people were bashing their head against a wall with no willingness to communicate
Numb, Amp, Deadly andcrippling
What key level should i switch from the bleed build to the hybrid build
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I feel like everything other than bosses die before kingsbane can ramp up in 3 and below
you might be overgeared for the m+ you're doing then
do higher keys
also accel your openers
how should I choose which missive to choose for crafting my bracers/belt? I always assumed go for crit/mastery but I am seeing in wowhead haste-mastery
send buffs sooner
I feel like you have an answer to your question then 🙂
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Hello, I have a question, I just crafted the dagger, what enchantment do you recommend, since I do m+ and raid?
!guide has recommendations - Radiant Power
Assassination Guides:
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IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
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my take is always target shard from closest to farthest from boss and have tank move the boss on to shard and just let the group do the rest while you blast boss imo thats the ideal way to do it
while pugging might be hard to do were not that good for that phase
also rupture shard when low on energy so you get some back
Doombalde gets amped by our bleed talents ya?
hi guys, is it really worth to use elusiveness instead of cheat death? i think CD helps more :S
you're trolling if you run it over cd in keys imo
cheat death too good for M+
i could see an arguement being made once feint is off the GCD
but for now, i dont see it
kk thanks, i wondered cause some random monk told me to use it in a 11, and after i said i preferred CD, he kicked me XDD
depends on the key i guess
but
i doubt it
like if theres shit that will legit just 1 shot you, youd have to run it
but, i dont see that in an 11
there is definitely shit that will oneshot if you mess up a little bit
so I guess the argument is
if you think you're good enough (which pretty much noone is) to never ever fuck up
then run elusiv
if you're mortal run cd
or actually I regret my wording
thats the thing, i usually die to some random shit bc i forget to use def, and CD saves me so.. i guess ill leave it that way haha
I agree some keys would be fine
but yeah, CD is just too strong of a defensive
on another note why are warlocks fucking horrible this season
Cheat death for life
haven't seen a single good one
Rogues neva die
ive doubled every locks dam ive seen
elusiveness goated
its depressing
if you do any key above 12, you do elusiveness
same literally in a SV 10 with a 625 warlock doing 1m overall
I used to use elusiveness but I be getting one tapped
Usually when everyone wipes and I just vanish and wait like a goated Chad
dont get hit by dodgeable mechanics
Cuz I Cd
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
do you care if you go above the dr on mastery with mastery on use trinkets ? saw when i popped my skardyn's grace i get a 10% penalty
you care what the sim says
sim will always prefer skardyns
Sim wrong sometimes
sim never wrong
Human thinking brain better
you just need to know how to interpret its result
I probably don’t k ow how to use sim well
need to put wa in the middle of my screen to keep track of this trinket so i dont forget it
skardyn's lol
I was so overwhelmed by all the dots you have to keep track of
so I kept forgetting to pop it
why wouldnt u just macro it into death mark...
???
No, the CD deathmark.
guess deathmark since u use it with the 2min cd everytime
:D
tired
Deathstalker’s mark DSM
Deathmark DM
I usually pop it with pot once I have mark out, and have spat/KB
so like 2 globals after mark
I can reapply them once i get in a new one
but then when i leave that TW dungeon, theyre off again
popped poison in another timezone so it falls off when you get back to future
it only lasts one hour

and one is like honey?
im not switching to a non-DTB build or anything, same talent build

got me
man this new opening with ambush deal feels to different
i like it thjough
Does this look right?
what key?
hm not sure xD
some gamer will have to weigh in
did you time it?
nope :/
was your overall good?
then that looks fine
gg
What was your overall there?
2.11
Fatty
solid
💪
nerubian emb cannot be stacked with the 2 crit embs correct?
Envenom looks low but fine
its a emb
and you can only have 2
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
gonna look into it next key, im stuck at 618 ilvl
I forget where do i go to farm the bubbling wax?
depends on key
so am i just commititng open world genocie in this area?
nah follower dungeon darkflame cleft
siege esp
pickpocket as the npcs fight
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
trust me
kill up to the first boss and reset
takes like 15 mins to get 30 hours of wax
That’s a lot of cum
trusting u rn
i use a pickpocket macro that rotates thru all targets near me so i just spam that shit while Marcus Lightborn the npc paladin fights for his life
Im im not mistaken caustic spatter works off all nature damage right?
I cant remember where I heard that
hey guys, my sims are telling my double focus is better ST upgrade .. instead of the acendece dagger with the nerubian 100% effectiveness embellishment
just wanna hear ya'll
input
I've gotten really lucky drops, 2 mythic daggers
all rogue nature damage yes
env/vicious/deathstalker/fatebound coins/kb/etc
so the hero talents that give plague damage work?
oh yes
yes
ty
PEOPLE for m+ is better the crit embellishment right?
I was playing with the dagger with ascension
Spattering intent 
I want to transition to double crit
idk if intent works to be fair
they're about the same, embellishments all suck
When the knower doesn’t know
ty, would be a low increase to swap to double crit??
ty Its because I want to do a nother 636 item, i have dagger and belt
do i go for bracers? or my lower boots?
ive robbed like 50 rats and i have no cum
whatever’s worse
did you do the questline
!lag
Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.
You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end
god damn it
!tricks
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
theres a fucking quest line

I like sacbrood
Go to the inn in the main town in the zone and the fireplace has a quest for you
thank you you're my favorite

whatever you want tbh
there's a billion options are they're all fine
you'd want to play skardyns for the single target
the one where i have to steal candles?
yes
they're correct
wet stone expensive tho
so it's effort vs calling your favorite chinese uncle for some moolah
ya but i could be whispyrs sugar daddy
hi guys I'm kinda new to rogue, is this true?
no
lol i was so confused
!wa
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LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
The last sentence is no longer true, this is a bug that was fixed
me - trying to pickpocket and actual rat for 15 seconds because i couldnt tell the difference
should i be vanishing at the last 3 secs of kb still?
no
Use it to refresh imp garrote if you have it talented
If you don't, hold it as emergency deathstalker mark recovery
nvm thats nature damage only
kk
swapped back to rogue cause we had 6 shamans lol and so much old muscle memory is fucking me haha
but im finding myself still trying to shadow dance lol and garrote to start with getting better about that tho
good alternative to trecharous transmitter huh?
Blood of Yogg used to sim really well.
just macro skardyn with deathmark forget about it
I mean in low keys you just cry as assa
I use ritual knife cuz that shits uptime is insane
yes
nice. hero track scales how many ilvl higher? 10?
619 vs 626
oh joy
im glad i got this trinket. nice
crit is better then the transmitter haste too.. and no minigame lols.. 5 second longer duration. cool cool
transmitter is a bit more bursty
i think?
wrathstone didnt drop for anyone
in the 3 runs i did
yeh, rare af
I'm a little confused about spending my runecrests to upgrade - should I feel happy to dump full upgrades on a champion wrathstone and champion shadow-binding ritual knife?
I won't be doing 10s this week I don't think but next week I should be starting them
I know simming would provide some answers but I'm still in a clownsuit of greens and got pretty lucky
The recent changes to tier set bonus is already live, right?
Transmitter sims way lower for me than skar
If you dump the crests into them now you won’t have to use them for future upgrades. But if you have other potential upgrades, sim
Should i craft another 636 weapon or upgrade my bracer with embellishment to 636?
!talents
anyone ran into raiders snapping from nowhere onto second boss in siege?
Those are not the only options tbf
Offhand Weapon is almost surely not the play, its the worst slot
Bracers is the second worst slot, so probably any other slot
i have a crafted belt, bracer, and weapon,
I was thinking of maybe just upgrading my belt from 619 to 636 instead of 2nd weapon
Thats true. I didn't think about that
you guys have myth track gear? 👀
only thing that sucks is my only myth is a crit/verse back
Yo guys how have you set up your combo points in UI? I've got em above nameplates but it really clutters the screen and makes tracking spells and interrupts on mobs that I haven't targeted a living nightmare. So considering either turning it off for nameplates and just using the Luxthos weakaura ones, but it feels really strange not having em above the nameplates.
yeah 5 pieces
Like if you only have them down by the energy bar, are you able to track anima-charged and amount and so on fluently while in combat?
Should you always be trying for full combo point envenoms or is there situations when 5-6 is ok? With echoing reprimand active
hi whuspyr
i would join that in a hearbeat
must be nice... first 2 weeks my vaults became sockets lol
2 m+ vaults 1 raid
LET ME IN PLEASE LET ME IN
I think most people run it off the weakaura… nameplates are fairly mandatory so I wouldn’t turn them off. Maybe have it so the comb points are on top of the WA, as close to your character as possible
Grats!
Yeah thought I might try that. To clarify I don't mean removing nameplates, I just mean removing the combo points display from above the nameplates. Right now I've combo points showing both over nameplates AND via the weakaura
Cheers
i was so salty because just before this
i lost a run because people hit the wrong clone
i was MASS pinging the right one
and they ignored me
My gear
At this point i can consitantly hit top dps in pugs
Yeah that’s too much clutter for me… I personally run luxthos WA, because his guide to customising it is really really good, and most other ones are just customised versions of his the his guide is still relevant to others
What is suddenly giving me a bunch of combo points when i rupture targets?
Serrated bonespike
Your investment you made
but yea bone spike
gotcha
theres no reason to trash SBS on nameplates/targets right?
Also just got enough crests to make another 636 piece :O
time to sim to see whats best
So like, how do you track combo points? Do you look down after each fan/mutilate to see whether it has crit?
anyone playing dk and rogue at a high level have any insight on which is more fun? i know dk is probably more meta but not sure i love frost
!wa
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
High level and fun doesn’t rhyme my friend


