#assassination

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spice surge
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On pure ST that is

cedar iron
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havnt played st without it, but that sucks

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same as trickster

slim pebble
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I also didn’t realize that echoing was going full passive

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I’m gonna have so many open keybinds in two weeks

novel star
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er change is comfy

bleak spoke
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i'm gonna miss echoing

novel star
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i mean same and not same

spice surge
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Its just as good as shrouded and dashing shrugeg

bleak spoke
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yeah

novel star
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clean ER strings feel nice but getting edged by er feels fucking terrible

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so

bleak spoke
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i like thought about the energy intake

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and like looked at your poison ticks and realized

novel star
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i’m pretty indifferent i think

bleak spoke
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it's basically more energy

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than dashing

past forum
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All the cov abilities had a satisfying sound when you pressed them. Of all them SBS was the least satisfying and that’s the only one we keep

novel star
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new sbs is based

bleak spoke
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i raelly liked active sbs, but that was different

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that was more minigame feeling

past forum
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I love the ability itself, i’m just talking “buttons you press that make a sound that make a dopamine “

bleak spoke
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ah

novel star
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fair

bleak spoke
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the best sound in the game is ace proc and it's not even close

novel star
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idk i only ever used sepsis in sl

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night fae furry moment

past forum
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Sepsis sound made my brain go 😄

novel star
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true and based

past forum
bleak spoke
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it was nice because it always felt like you heard it just a hair faster than like your weakauras update

novel star
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audio reaction time gaps visual no

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just human brain skill issue

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evolution issue

bleak spoke
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nah i think my weakauras were just laggy

novel star
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o XD_FB

bleak spoke
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but that is true yeah

slim pebble
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I’m gonna do so much gliding in two weeks

bleak spoke
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that's why audio cue warnings are the best

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immo

slim pebble
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Man I absolutely hated playing sepsis

bleak spoke
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it never felt as powerful as it felt like it should have

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except like in pvp maybe

novel star
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fella like me just didn’t gaf ab the game at that time

bleak spoke
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i didn't play legion but now that i've played kingsbane i guess everyone who had played with kingsbane were just mad it wasn't kb

slim pebble
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I watched pika quite a bit and he always played sepsis

bleak spoke
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yeh

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cuz it actually really wrecks someone in pvp and you get a surprise garrote silence after

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etc

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or a surprise cheap

novel star
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never thought ab it in pvp

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op

normal mist
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no garrote

bleak spoke
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it wasn't in slands

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i'm tlaking about the ability as a retrospective

normal mist
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oh, here i go reading half of the conversation again

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xD

novel star
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W

bleak spoke
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i'm surprised they didn't give it to sin and not sub

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but i guess it's cuz you still use sepsis in sub pvp

proven jasper
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getting deleted with dust sadgeSitSip

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Pour two out for my boys

slim pebble
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Thankful we didn’t get it because it would probably be BIS for us

oak tangle
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that's silly

bleak spoke
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idk i enjoy how sepsis plays, 1:30 is just a weird timer

proven jasper
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I liked it when we played it

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Df s2?

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It was i think

bleak spoke
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did that happen

proven jasper
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ye

bleak spoke
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oh was it like the weird you play flag sepsis on sub thing

spice surge
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I disliked the janky timing where you need to hold it for the last 0.1s of the buff to garrote

proven jasper
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No sin played sepsis

oak tangle
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kinda ironic how sub got both sepsis and flag tho

spice surge
oak tangle
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but i do like / prefer current iteration of bone skipe

spice surge
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As it shouldve been when it got removed for assa and outlaw

bleak spoke
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you know

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toxic onslaught would actually own right now

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it was like when you used the ability you got blades? or something

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yeh i found it

proven jasper
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Toxic onslaught was cool af

oak tangle
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vendetta

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mmmmmmmmmmmm

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gotta go fast

bleak spoke
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tbh there's one thing that lives rent free in my head in slands

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it's the torghast power

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that was vendetta grants ar grants blades grants vendeta

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that was the most powerful i've ever felt pressing a button

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LOL

oak tangle
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i played monk in torghast, i just went pack to pack aoe touch of death with no cd

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my health got buffed by like 2 /3 x or sometihng

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so you legit just one sphot packs

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there was one torghast power in there, and it had to do with sepsis, and mawrats

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where it did insane damage if you hat like a mawrat on top of a boss

bleak spoke
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yeh

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but also just bonedust power

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made it trigger infinitely

oak tangle
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think it was this one

bleak spoke
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oh yeah

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it like

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it like bombed out stuff yeah

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there was another one too

proven jasper
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There was one that made distract apply a bomb

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that was kinda cool too

paper cloak
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u enjoy ceverions or whispys plater more for m+?

oak tangle
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i stole whispyrs and made it my own

bleak spoke
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this

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but like the actual most powerful setup for us it hink was just

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the ER combo point spetn resets ER

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and getting the finisher boosts builder dmg

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that you could get like multiples of

past marten
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
bleak spoke
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and just walk up and do like ER + any finisher into ER + any finisher over and over

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now that i'm looking back at these, i can see like the prototyping in terms of current design

oak tangle
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yup lol look at the common anima powers

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they basically all became talents

bleak spoke
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in the long run

meager granite
bleak spoke
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but much like the step gives you a billion dmg one, i'm glad they didn't go down that route

proven jasper
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Shadowstep in my dps rotation

bleak spoke
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it was the best way to do the boss rush at the end

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getting the step triggers vial cloak or evasion etc

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and vial triggers feint and feint resets step

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so you just spammed the button cuz you would have infinite cloak/evasion

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casting deathmark/blades/ar will give you

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oh actually i know why

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outlaw ruins everything madgeSit

mild tiger
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do you guys know what ids or what the names of these debuffs are in plater? i want to turn them off

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I know that the right one is Hunt them down but putting hunt them down on my blocked list doesnt really do much, it still is being shown

hexed frost
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Bruh why isn't the parse getting updated on my profile? It's been a week.

Can see the parse on the logs, but not on profile

proven jasper
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Have you updated your profile

hexed frost
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Yes yes

subtle tundra
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have parses for bloodhound horror who dont show

hollow talon
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same i have 100s on every boss not showing

subtle tundra
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my 100 IS showing

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wtf

dapper cradle
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I’m r1 on every boss but it doesn’t show

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She goes to another school btw

honest prawn
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Need advice on which slot to craft. All gear except head is hero track

hollow talon
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weapon

honest prawn
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I mean which should I prioritize crafting

hollow talon
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weapon

rotund oak
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weapon

honest prawn
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And for 2nd craft?

rotund oak
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boots/waist/wrist

strange python
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Hero knife and skardyns

hollow talon
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bracer or ring

strange python
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I’ll slit my wrist

turbid crest
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Heya excuse me but is some1 know why my twitch didnt get linked on raiderio when i did

hollow talon
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it might take a bit to load the changes

honest prawn
hollow talon
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i use this one

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but people use the laser one too

zealous wolf
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pro tip when applying posions, if you hold the click and drag to the other poison you need to apply and then release the poison menu wont close

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idk if its known xd

celest helm
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or just keybind them

zealous wolf
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true i guess

wild hound
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Yo guys how do you have your layout in m+? Like I have combo points over the health bars but then I can't see shit in big pulls and interrupting is a mess.

hexed frost
spice surge
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Or use the WA that pops up in the middle of your screen outside of combat that you can just click and it applies the poisons

stone oak
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do yall use ambush when stealthed? wondering if ambush needs to b on my bar or not

spice surge
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Ive heard those are somewhat shit performance wise, but its really neat

honest prawn
subtle tundra
honest prawn
spice surge
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Highest ilvl in the mainhand always

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Offhand ilvl largely irrelevant

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the least impactful slot there is out of all of your items

snow spear
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Hey, I am new to Assassiniation. Is there a point when energy regen starts to feel good?

prisma monolithBOT
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Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
snow spear
coral ibex
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you can only apply deathstalker mark via ambush, unless you have the darkest night buff

crude sequoia
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when i craft this, does it matter if i buy rank 3 reagents?

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cus im thinking its just the crest?

robust axle
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nah can be r1 reagents

crude sequoia
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aight ty

worldly sail
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oh heck

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someone answered

worldly sail
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i blame not scrolling all the way down basegcat

robust axle
indigo comet
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Hey there

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why skardyn is stronger than Transmitter?

worldly sail
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i think transmitter is stronger but skardyn is just easier to use

indigo comet
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i just look at warcraftlogs

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everyone is use skardyn basically

worldly sail
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well, skardyns is also infinitely farmable

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transmitter only 1 or 2 chances a week

indigo comet
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don't tell me i wasted 30 dungeons just to get skardyn and its behind trasmitter

indigo comet
stone oak
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understood tyty

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so ambush will b on bars

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f

spice surge
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Skardyn stronger in dungeons, same for st

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But you dont need to catch the orb/jump/stand in the circle with skardyn, so most people prefer that

stone oak
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actually mayb is there macro that can swap between ambush and mut depending on stealh or no stealth?

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or is that also bad?

warm vortex
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Why don’t you just dif bars for stealth bars

spice surge
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If you've disabled it swapping your stealth bar and regular bar sure

stone oak
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ya i dont like paging

spice surge
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But if it swaps just put them in the same spot

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And youre fine

warm vortex
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The migraine transmitter gives makes you play worse

quasi pine
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is someone here to help me, I need improvement, I think I do not master something on my rogue this season with the new changes, and I dont know what tbh, I have no problems in dungeons, but in raid I'm feeling a bit down on bosses like ovinax (hm) or ulgraxx (in mm)

indigo comet
spice surge
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Skardyns on-use is significantly weaker than transmitter

strange python
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The sims have an execute phase

spice surge
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The passive agi is stronger than the passive haste

warm vortex
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Is it trans + grace in st or MqM + grace

spice surge
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1 stat on-use and one other trinket

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So never both transmitter+skardyn

warm vortex
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Ah aight

strange python
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!apl

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!sim

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Is there a custom apl for assa rogue for simming atm?

west shale
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
jagged niche
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@winged sun tell nextback to press kick and defensives

torn gale
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
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How big is the queen ring for assa rogue should I spend a full day trying to kill queen on hc?

normal mist
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its good for...

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everyone

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free dmg is free dmg

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I WAS FINALLY INVITED TO AN 8

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AND KICKED 5 SECS LATER

viral linden
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How hard is Assa to get into compared to Sub?

strange python
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Way more intuitive

strange python
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Sub is just very unintuitive

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What

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Are we okay

viral linden
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🤣

strange python
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Each to their own I guess

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But the general consensus would be quite the opposite

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What do you press as sub on aoe?

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Vs assa

brave pulsar
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just finished my first assa dg and this is my overall. Can you guys give me any tips?

strange python
viral linden
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Trickster evisc

strange python
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What do you press on sin

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Garrote

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Rupture

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Envenom

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Gratz

strange python
strange python
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That’s sin yes

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Lets ask the pro's bro

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Let’s ask them then kekdog

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I'm saying assa is harder than sub

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By a mile

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?

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It’s not

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By a mile

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How is it not hahahhah

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How is it?

slate crown
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I assume you're talking about dungeons

strange python
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Sins difficulty definitely goes up in aoe

slate crown
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because in single target Assa couldn't be easier

strange python
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Compared to st

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Well idk

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But it still does the same things while sub especially now that bp is worth pressing again

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Lets count the diff buttons pressed? shall we

slate crown
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And while sub's complexity is less than it has been in the past now that it's 1.5m with vanish locked into cd windows isntead of being cd alignment tool on prog

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it's still more complex and more reactive

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right now

strange python
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Buttons pressed does not equal hard bro

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Also

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Then what does matter? snapshoting procs?

slate crown
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Yeah, also I'm pretty sure they're basically the same if not sub is slightly more?

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and it doesn't matter

strange python
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Sub pressed the same amount of buttons?

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I doubt that

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Snapshotting procs???

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Which procs???

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I'm asking you

subtle oyster
slate crown
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It's all subjective anyways

strange python
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the question

slate crown
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you are allowed to think that sin is harder than sub

strange python
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You're not comparing outlaw to assa

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Sub vs assa

slate crown
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I just personally disagree

pure moth
strange python
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Yes sub vs assa

dapper cradle
slate crown
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And I don't know that I can even see how you'd make that determination for what makes sin hard

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But that's just me

coarse mason
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I use cast sequence macros so both specs are easy

arctic tusk
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wrap it up

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he screenshotted some buttons

strange python
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Hahahahaha

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By diffictulty, easiest to hardest, : sub assa outlaw? @strange python

viral linden
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I seemed to have struck a nerve with my qwuestioning 🙍‍♂️ My b

strange python
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If you cant agree to this

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You're that sub rogue that never wants to play outlaw or assa

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Assa - outlaw/sin

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Here you go

slate crown
strange python
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No matter hhow good it is

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I play sin in keys

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But ok

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Thanks for being stupid

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Let me guess you're playing sub every key

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hahah

barren epoch
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love some bad faith arguments in the morning

strange python
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I played sin before I played sub

viral linden
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Everybody love everybody 🙂

strange python
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It’s so good ur assuming stuff

keen rover
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Is there an argument to be made to learn the other specs? I play sin in everything

strange python
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Im just profiling you based on your bias towards sub being hard

distant plinth
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You can basicly macro everything togheter in sub and do mad damage bruv, but sub is braindead till cds is up.

strange python
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No I’m not kekdog

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I play both specs

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On different fights

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And sin in keys

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Yes and you fail at assa minmax

subtle oyster
strange python
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I have no bias

strange python
fathom cove
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Grim Batol first boss, dropping rock spikes, does feint reduce the dmg of that?

keen rover
strange python
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Bro hahahaha

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WHO are you

slate crown
fathom cove
coral ibex
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its crazy how the change to gildeds from +8 has opened up group finder

strange python
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You just spit things in here

strange python
subtle oyster
strange python
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I bet you think sub plays storm bp spam in m+

coral ibex
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im actually getting invites to 7's bc people want to +1 to 8

strange python
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And that’s all it does

fathom cove
strange python
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So wrong lmfao

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So you have no clue

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But ur just saying things

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Send me your log lil bro

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I wanna see it

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Your best assa log

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„Lil bro“

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Ur actually cooked

keen rover
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Im avging about 1.4milli in dungos as sin. Maybe Ill try some other specs just to see what theyre like

distant plinth
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Send us yours delxen

subtle oyster
slate crown
strange python
arctic tusk
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i just know eleem is eating this up rn

strange python
arctic tusk
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somewhere in the distance

distant plinth
spice surge
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What am i eating

distant plinth
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🤣

strange python
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I hope

slate crown
arctic tusk
slate crown
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Some coffee

arctic tusk
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XD

slate crown
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cold brew

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of course

strange python
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There is my assa log

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605 ilvl

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Made the char 3 days ago

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And got into assa

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😉

spice surge
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Well no it was lamb stew+fresh sourdough with parsley butter

slate crown
distant plinth
strange python
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No don’t laugh about logs

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That’s also not cool

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Idk whats so funny bro

pure moth
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why not

subtle oyster
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If you made it 3 days ago it then it would speak for assas simplicity rather than against it

strange python
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blue parse at 605 ilvl?

distant plinth
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Just put him on block @strange python

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He is trolling you

strange python
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I'm not

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I just find it funny how someone that is 3 days into the spec just knows it’s harder than the other spec

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I'm just saying assa is harder than sub

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(He would parse lower if he tried)

distant plinth
strange python
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Go ahaed

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Go log the same boss

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As sub

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Tell me what happens

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Bro I legit read both wowhead rotation guides

arctic tusk
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well you did do the opener

strange python
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Fuck okay

arctic tusk
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and burst wrong

strange python
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Good night

coral ibex
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legit??

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on god

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be so fr

strange python
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Im getting trolled this can’t be real right

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I took the bait

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My bad

distant plinth
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Hahaha he got you bad bruv

arctic tusk
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yes Surebud

strange python
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xD

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Okay

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I'm gonna stop

distant plinth
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But seriously sub is harder than assa

dapper cradle
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Armin rn

strange python
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Sory bro

strange python
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I haven’t been baited in a long time

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He even called me stupid

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xD

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Deserved on that comment

distant plinth
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Hahaha whispyr in disguise or?!

strange python
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Anlaki bro

coral ibex
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UNLOOKOO BRO

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UNLOOKOO

strange python
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Daddy chill

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I am also psure he wasn’t baiting and is riding the wave now but all good

late kestrel
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maybe a stupid question but does caustic splatter have pandemic?

strange python
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I’ll put it away as getting baited

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Bro I legit started playing rogue 3 days ago

coral ibex
strange python
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Have no fucking clue how sub works

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Just said you said sub was harder

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And i went the other way

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Read the guide quick to get some info out

late kestrel
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live love sub

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except for keys

distant plinth
strange python
late kestrel
slate crown
distant plinth
strange python
distant plinth
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We are kush

strange python
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But also kush says you should play sin

strange python
late kestrel
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sub is harder to get right with cds

distant plinth
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He was probably testing the bp thingy

subtle oyster
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Or he was bored

jagged niche
late kestrel
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sin i play it not even well and its better than my best at sub in keys

distant plinth
strange python
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
distant plinth
jagged niche
distant plinth
slate crown
jagged niche
young dust
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watching the ovinax suffering from bench is good

jagged niche
young dust
jagged niche
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Oh that explains everything

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Boomies/Mages and locks are Special

strange python
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I didn’t know baiting is getting moderated like this

regal kiln
slate crown
normal mist
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^

thorn fjord
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GET REKT

median flicker
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That shit was comical what the fuck

thorn fjord
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queue simulator is the worst and it legit makes me not want to play lol

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BUT WE GOTTA PUSH THROUGH IT

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atleast i capped out my vault so i can run 7s for the trinket

worthy axle
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Are there specific slots we want for tier? or is it just whatever we can get our hands on? Playing a rogue as my alt

thorn fjord
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Think chest is the worst of the bunch but not 100%

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So basically whatever you can get then sim around what you have available if you have all 5

worthy axle
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New alt so not a lot of gear worth using catalyst on

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I do have hero 610 shoulders

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so I guess ill convert those

late nova
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For m+ do we sim dslice or patch 5 targets?

thorn fjord
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Can run a droptimizer to see which piece is your biggest gain

grim jay
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to not play queue simulator

brittle quail
past forum
worthy axle
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ty all

keen spruce
jagged niche
normal mist
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its a forever Q simulator

jagged niche
fathom cove
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are enhancers more popular than rets?

grim jay
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its legit just finding people to run with

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for whenever you play

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not just per dungeon

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ez, problem solved

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just a tank or a heal and you are fine

jagged niche
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Depends what key lvls u run but ye

grim jay
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no

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you can do that on any keylevel

normal mist
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and have been for a while now

grim jay
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its legit the same as it has been since shadowlands

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atleast

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nothing new, nothing to be surprised about

normal mist
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in DF i didnt stand in city

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for HOURS

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without a single dungeon

grim jay
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never have waited for longer than 10 min even alone

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in tww either

normal mist
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i've seen a long list of "delist" or "decline" this whole day

acoustic pendant
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i have a question. Inside deathmark + kingsbane we spam envenom because our energy regen is big enough to witstand it, but inside the small burts window with only kingsbane do we spam envenoms ? or just keep buff uptime ? (this question is for ST because i know in aoe we spam envenoms)

jagged niche
dawn condor
proven jasper
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more env=more kb dam

hidden walrus
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Hello fellow backstabbers, i'm wondering which neck is better for mm+. Any advices ?

proven jasper
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Ask robot

grim jay
pliant remnant
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Ask robot, but probably Trailspinner

worldly sail
hidden walrus
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Sim tells me Sureki is better for single target, trailspinner for dungeon slice

brisk path
pliant remnant
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Then use Trailspinner when you're slicing up dungeons

grim jay
hidden walrus
grim jay
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so kinda an expected result

proven jasper
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Mastery scales quite hard in aoe as well

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makes sense

acoustic pendant
proven jasper
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You should try and pool before your solo kb window

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you’ll have plenty in dm+kb

acoustic pendant
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i should enter kingsbane window with atleast 60% or more energy right ?

proven jasper
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yeah have bleeds refreshed and then chain env as much as u can

acoustic pendant
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sometime i used solo kb with 100 energy

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and then i had no envenoms xd

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so now it makes sense

humble cradle
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Hey guys noob rogue here just getting my feet wet in m+. Other than plater and a general class wa are there any other recommended weak auras or addons for doing m+?

stone oak
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can the blind dmg reduction effect work on bosses?

prisma monolithBOT
#

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
brittle quail
#

this one if you use it

warm oyster
#

Hey fellas, can i get grim batol loot table in vault even if i havent done grim batol that week? bad luck g etting grim batol groups

spice surge
#

Yes, the m+ row pulls from all dungeons

brittle quail
spice surge
#

Regardless of what you've done

little mantle
#

whats the most optimal way to use deathmark? and is it purely for ST?

loud dome
#

i forgot to backup my weakauras, anyone have the one for tracking poisons, pops up in the middle of the screen when they have 20 min remaining and you can click it to apply them?

brittle quail
#

and it work in aoe too really good

normal mist
#

"do your own key"

cedar flicker
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
normal mist
brittle quail
#

should always try to use it in every situation application depend on do u have time to apply it with max cp envenom before the buff is gone

warm oyster
coral ibex
humble cradle
#

I would love something that tells me when I should be using a defensive for unavoidable dmg

#

In that vein feint only reduces aoe dmg right?

little mantle
normal mist
#

more energy

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more spam

#

more caustic

#

more aoe

brittle quail
coral ibex
#

yes it does

#

it duplicates bleeds

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which results in more energy

true fox
#

Hey fellas what do u reccomend for maximize dmg on bosses?

#

For raid

coral ibex
#

most of assa aoe comes from caustic spatter damage

tired gull
#

Optimal rotation and minimizing downtime

little mantle
#

does it duplicate bleeds from indiscriminate carnage?

coral ibex
#

afaik

nimble ether
#

Does duplicate bleeds mean 2 bleeds?

#

So like 2 instance of garrote and rupture on one enemy

true fox
#

For single target would u recomend to expend cp on Carmesi bleed diwith al single bleeds and posioms and then use deathMark+kings?

#

Or only. dM instead on raid?

coral ibex
#

huh

brittle quail
#

i read deathstalker mark not death mark x)

true fox
#

Deathstalker mark i now opening with ambush

brittle quail
#

well death mark is just the big burst button that you can use on aoe too just on the big target with caustic so it spread some dmg too

true fox
#

And when does causistic activates?

brittle quail
#

when target has rupture and you mutilate them

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last 10 sec

#

only 1 target can have it

true fox
#

Okey so may put from Vanish ,m

#

?

little mantle
#

so ambush into DM , KB, garrote, rupture, mutilate then envenom? not sure exactly when to use shiv

brittle quail
#

on wowhead the rotation i well explained

true fox
#

Ambush>rupture>bleeds>rupture> DeathMark,m?

coral ibex
#

the wowhead guide explains it

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i recommend it

brittle quail
#

yes even has illustration and what to remove if you want to speed up the opener

little mantle
#

i see that shiv is between DM and KB, is that ideally when to use it? what if DM is on cd?

brittle quail
#

shiv is 30 sec

#

so if you have 2 shiv

coral ibex
#

in AOE you shiv the last 7s of kb

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in ST with 2 shivs you shiv before KB and the last 7s of kb

maiden tapir
#

what crit are we aiming for , in dungeons?

brittle quail
#

its dm > shiv > kb and shiv again at the last 7s ok KB

coral ibex
prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
brittle quail
#

and with only one shiv its DM> KB > shiv at the last 7 sec of kb

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with only one shiv if you'r perfect player

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you can shiv / kb / dm on cd after the first opener cause it should just repeat and stay in sync

coral ibex
#

its better to shiv the end of kb

shy sorrel
#

Can you macro so you can cast all 4 poisons with 1 button

brittle quail
little mantle
#

so shiv before kb and the last 7 secs ensures it stays up throughout KB from wat i understand

brittle quail
#

yes but in m+ you only have one shiv

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so the last 7 s of kb are the more valuable

#

so you keep shiv for that time

little mantle
#

true

#

thanks for help

iron valve
nimble ether
#

I just have the poison tab on my screen and I click it

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Because some builds use different poisons

rough hull
#

any of you got experience with the crystal boss in stone vault on 12 or higher as assa rogue, where do you use your cds? i feel like if i pop on boss while he keeps spawning crystals, i tend to caustic spatter cleave them sometimes and wipe the group 😦 do you save your cds for the shield phase?

spring socket
#

iF PLAYING iMP GAR SHOULD I BE TALENTING dASHING SCOUNDREL OF sHROUDED SUFRICATION ?

#

firguve my caps

kindred hinge
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
kindred hinge
#

But I had a Ret and a boomie doing the rest of the job on shards

#

Has Whysper WA been update with the current WA issue ?

rough hull
broken chasm
#

hello, what are the best poisons for m+?

rocky spear
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

kindred hinge
#

Was in pug too but I got into the habits of always discussin Skarmo from the runs on the firt week where people were bashing their head against a wall with no willingness to communicate

kindred hinge
idle inlet
#

What key level should i switch from the bleed build to the hybrid build

grim tree
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
idle inlet
# slate crown 0

I feel like everything other than bosses die before kingsbane can ramp up in 3 and below

coral ibex
#

you might be overgeared for the m+ you're doing then

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do higher keys

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also accel your openers

honest prawn
#

how should I choose which missive to choose for crafting my bracers/belt? I always assumed go for crit/mastery but I am seeing in wowhead haste-mastery

coral ibex
#

send buffs sooner

slate crown
distant monolith
#

!fu

#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
grim tree
#

Hello, I have a question, I just crafted the dagger, what enchantment do you recommend, since I do m+ and raid?

slate crown
#

!guide has recommendations - Radiant Power

brittle quail
#

while pugging might be hard to do were not that good for that phase

#

also rupture shard when low on energy so you get some back

upper spear
#

Doombalde gets amped by our bleed talents ya?

jovial imp
#

hi guys, is it really worth to use elusiveness instead of cheat death? i think CD helps more :S

balmy prism
#

you're trolling if you run it over cd in keys imo

upper spear
#

cheat death too good for M+

#

i could see an arguement being made once feint is off the GCD

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but for now, i dont see it

jovial imp
#

kk thanks, i wondered cause some random monk told me to use it in a 11, and after i said i preferred CD, he kicked me XDD

upper spear
#

depends on the key i guess

#

but

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i doubt it

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like if theres shit that will legit just 1 shot you, youd have to run it

#

but, i dont see that in an 11

balmy prism
#

there is definitely shit that will oneshot if you mess up a little bit

#

so I guess the argument is

#

if you think you're good enough (which pretty much noone is) to never ever fuck up

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then run elusiv

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if you're mortal run cd

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or actually I regret my wording

jovial imp
#

thats the thing, i usually die to some random shit bc i forget to use def, and CD saves me so.. i guess ill leave it that way haha

balmy prism
#

I agree some keys would be fine

#

but yeah, CD is just too strong of a defensive

#

on another note why are warlocks fucking horrible this season

nimble ether
#

Cheat death for life

balmy prism
#

haven't seen a single good one

nimble ether
#

Rogues neva die

upper spear
#

ive doubled every locks dam ive seen

subtle tundra
#

elusiveness goated

upper spear
#

its depressing

subtle tundra
#

if you do any key above 12, you do elusiveness

balmy prism
#

same literally in a SV 10 with a 625 warlock doing 1m overall

nimble ether
#

I used to use elusiveness but I be getting one tapped

nimble ether
#

Usually when everyone wipes and I just vanish and wait like a goated Chad

subtle tundra
#

dont get hit by dodgeable mechanics

nimble ether
#

Cuz I Cd

rocky spear
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

trail scarab
#

do you care if you go above the dr on mastery with mastery on use trinkets ? saw when i popped my skardyn's grace i get a 10% penalty

subtle tundra
#

you care what the sim says

balmy prism
#

sim will always prefer skardyns

nimble ether
#

Sim wrong sometimes

subtle tundra
#

sim never wrong

nimble ether
#

Human thinking brain better

subtle tundra
#

you just need to know how to interpret its result

balmy prism
#

eh, interpreting sim wrong sometimes

#

human error

nimble ether
#

I probably don’t k ow how to use sim well

trail scarab
#

need to put wa in the middle of my screen to keep track of this trinket so i dont forget it

balmy prism
#

yeah I did that when I started

#

then you get used to it

upper spear
#

wat

#

which trinket

balmy prism
#

skardyn's lol

trail scarab
#

pretty much any on use for me at this point

#

haha

balmy prism
#

I was so overwhelmed by all the dots you have to keep track of

#

so I kept forgetting to pop it

upper spear
#

why wouldnt u just macro it into death mark...

balmy prism
#

for like the first week

#

you mean macro it into ambush?

#

that sounds bad generally

upper spear
#

???

shy pecan
#

No, the CD deathmark.

trail scarab
#

guess deathmark since u use it with the 2min cd everytime

balmy prism
#

oh lmao

#

yeah fair

trail scarab
#

:D

balmy prism
#

tired

nimble ether
#

Ppl always get them confused

#

Bad naming honestly lol

shy pecan
#

Deathstalker’s mark DSM
Deathmark DM

vagrant tapir
#

why are 3 of my poisons falling off every time i leave a timewalking dungeon

#

:S

balmy prism
#

I usually pop it with pot once I have mark out, and have spat/KB

#

so like 2 globals after mark

vagrant tapir
#

I can reapply them once i get in a new one

#

but then when i leave that TW dungeon, theyre off again

brave stump
#

it only lasts one hour

noble light
#

and one is like honey?

vagrant tapir
#

im not switching to a non-DTB build or anything, same talent build

vagrant tapir
#

got me

#

man this new opening with ambush deal feels to different

#

i like it thjough

crisp stream
#

Does this look right?

balmy prism
#

what key?

crisp stream
#

11

#

necro

balmy prism
#

Envenom a bit low no?

#

or I'm playing wrong, envenom is usually 3rd or 2nd for me

crisp stream
#

hm not sure xD

balmy prism
#

some gamer will have to weigh in

normal mist
crisp stream
normal mist
#

was your overall good?

crisp stream
#

yep

#

xD

normal mist
#

then that looks fine

crisp stream
#

gg

balmy prism
#

What was your overall there?

crisp stream
#

2.11

nimble ether
#

Fatty

balmy prism
#

solid

crisp stream
#

💪

dense cloud
#

nerubian emb cannot be stacked with the 2 crit embs correct?

celest helm
normal mist
#

and you can only have 2

iron ivy
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

crisp stream
thorn fjord
#

I forget where do i go to farm the bubbling wax?

normal mist
#

kobolds

#

ringing deeps

#

thats one of the areas

waxen oyster
#

i feel like i troll

#

regularly having env at #1

upper spear
#

depends on key

upper spear
coral ibex
#

nah follower dungeon darkflame cleft

waxen oyster
#

siege esp

coral ibex
#

pickpocket as the npcs fight

slate crown
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

coral ibex
#

trust me

#

kill up to the first boss and reset

#

takes like 15 mins to get 30 hours of wax

slim pebble
upper spear
#

trusting u rn

coral ibex
#

i use a pickpocket macro that rotates thru all targets near me so i just spam that shit while Marcus Lightborn the npc paladin fights for his life

hardy rapids
#

Im im not mistaken caustic spatter works off all nature damage right?

#

I cant remember where I heard that

rocky sluice
#

hey guys, my sims are telling my double focus is better ST upgrade .. instead of the acendece dagger with the nerubian 100% effectiveness embellishment

#

just wanna hear ya'll

#

input

#

I've gotten really lucky drops, 2 mythic daggers

balmy condor
#

env/vicious/deathstalker/fatebound coins/kb/etc

hardy rapids
#

oh yes

balmy condor
#

yes

hardy rapids
#

ty

waxen oyster
#

spattering coin dam

alpine oracle
#

PEOPLE for m+ is better the crit embellishment right?

#

I was playing with the dagger with ascension

hardy rapids
#

Spattering intent HOLY

alpine oracle
#

I want to transition to double crit

balmy condor
#

idk if intent works to be fair

balmy condor
nimble ether
#

When the knower doesn’t know

alpine oracle
#

ty, would be a low increase to swap to double crit??

waxen oyster
#

you can ask simc that

#

it barely matters though

alpine oracle
#

ty Its because I want to do a nother 636 item, i have dagger and belt

#

do i go for bracers? or my lower boots?

upper spear
waxen oyster
noble light
#

!trinket

#

dang it

balmy condor
shell ivy
#

!lag

prisma monolithBOT
#

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

upper spear
#

god damn it

dusk fox
#

!tricks

prisma monolithBOT
#

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
upper spear
#

theres a fucking quest line

balmy condor
noble light
#

So what trinkets do I use in M+? Cause every rogue on raider.io uses different ones

balmy prism
#

I like sacbrood

slate crown
upper spear
slate crown
balmy condor
#

there's a billion options are they're all fine

#

you'd want to play skardyns for the single target

upper spear
balmy condor
#

otherwise just equip like

#

anything

balmy condor
upper spear
#

seeing on wowhead people saying that wet stone is better

#

thoughts?

balmy condor
#

they're correct

empty shadow
#

Do you save trinkets for bosses in low keys?

#

Or just pop everything off CD?

balmy prism
#

wet stone expensive tho

#

so it's effort vs calling your favorite chinese uncle for some moolah

upper spear
#

ya but i could be whispyrs sugar daddy

balmy condor
#

same

#

what

devout rock
#

hi guys I'm kinda new to rogue, is this true?

upper spear
#

i have an admission

#

ive been using mastert hissing runes in 10s

devout rock
pearl ingot
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
slate crown
upper spear
#

me - trying to pickpocket and actual rat for 15 seconds because i couldnt tell the difference

little moth
#

should i be vanishing at the last 3 secs of kb still?

slate crown
#

Use it to refresh imp garrote if you have it talented

#

If you don't, hold it as emergency deathstalker mark recovery

little moth
#

im guessing after DM is over

#

for the bonus mastery

slate crown
#

No ideally during dm

#

during dm you want imp garrote rolling

little moth
#

nvm thats nature damage only

#

kk

#

swapped back to rogue cause we had 6 shamans lol and so much old muscle memory is fucking me haha

upper spear
#

6 shamans 6 rets 2 blood DKs 5 Pres evokers

#

GG

little moth
#

but im finding myself still trying to shadow dance lol and garrote to start with getting better about that tho

neat pier
#

good alternative to trecharous transmitter huh?

empty shadow
#

Blood of Yogg used to sim really well.

sullen mural
empty shadow
#

I did, I just dont know when to use them in low keys.

#

Stuff dies so fast.

sullen mural
#

I mean in low keys you just cry as assa

empty shadow
#

I use double on use.

#

Okay yeah true.

sullen mural
#

I use ritual knife cuz that shits uptime is insane

balmy condor
neat pier
#

nice. hero track scales how many ilvl higher? 10?

spice surge
#

619 vs 626

neat pier
#

oh joy

#

im glad i got this trinket. nice

#

crit is better then the transmitter haste too.. and no minigame lols.. 5 second longer duration. cool cool

waxen oyster
#

transmitter is a bit more bursty

#

i think?

#

wrathstone didnt drop for anyone

#

in the 3 runs i did

balmy condor
#

yeh, rare af

karmic crystal
#

I'm a little confused about spending my runecrests to upgrade - should I feel happy to dump full upgrades on a champion wrathstone and champion shadow-binding ritual knife?

#

I won't be doing 10s this week I don't think but next week I should be starting them

#

I know simming would provide some answers but I'm still in a clownsuit of greens and got pretty lucky

raven egret
#

Skardyn still doesnt exist for me

#

I dream of grim batol runs at night

grave osprey
#

The recent changes to tier set bonus is already live, right?

dapper cradle
#

Transmitter sims way lower for me than skar

west crown
uneven plume
#

ruff out here

sturdy crater
#

Should i craft another 636 weapon or upgrade my bracer with embellishment to 636?

copper sun
#

!talents

balmy prism
#

anyone ran into raiders snapping from nowhere onto second boss in siege?

spice surge
balmy condor
spice surge
#

Offhand Weapon is almost surely not the play, its the worst slot

#

Bracers is the second worst slot, so probably any other slot

sturdy crater
#

i have a crafted belt, bracer, and weapon,

#

I was thinking of maybe just upgrading my belt from 619 to 636 instead of 2nd weapon

acoustic roost
#

Save the crests and upgrade myth track gear instead

#

Can also sim

sturdy crater
#

Thats true. I didn't think about that

balmy prism
#

you guys have myth track gear? 👀

sturdy crater
#

only thing that sucks is my only myth is a crit/verse back

wild hound
#

Yo guys how have you set up your combo points in UI? I've got em above nameplates but it really clutters the screen and makes tracking spells and interrupts on mobs that I haven't targeted a living nightmare. So considering either turning it off for nameplates and just using the Luxthos weakaura ones, but it feels really strange not having em above the nameplates.

waxen oyster
wild hound
#

Like if you only have them down by the energy bar, are you able to track anima-charged and amount and so on fluently while in combat?

loud girder
#

Should you always be trying for full combo point envenoms or is there situations when 5-6 is ok? With echoing reprimand active

hearty reef
#

hi whuspyr

thorn thorn
balmy prism
#

i would join that in a hearbeat

balmy prism
waxen oyster
#

2 m+ vaults 1 raid

balmy condor
cyan karma
warm vortex
#

GUYS

#

!!!

#

:D

loud girder
wild hound
warm vortex
#

i was so salty because just before this

#

i lost a run because people hit the wrong clone

#

i was MASS pinging the right one

#

and they ignored me

#

My gear

#

At this point i can consitantly hit top dps in pugs

cyan karma
warm vortex
#

which feels nice (without pots mainly, i do pots on 10s)

vagrant tapir
#

What is suddenly giving me a bunch of combo points when i rupture targets?

warm vortex
#

but yea bone spike

vagrant tapir
#

theres no reason to trash SBS on nameplates/targets right?

warm vortex
#

Also just got enough crests to make another 636 piece :O

#

time to sim to see whats best

wild hound
tropic obsidian
#

anyone playing dk and rogue at a high level have any insight on which is more fun? i know dk is probably more meta but not sure i love frost

little mantle
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
fallen arch