assassination

[severe sparrow]

for 1h weapons, rings, and trinkets you def need 2 before you can get reduced upgrades

i dont remember any time when it wasnt that way

[harsh anchor]

Nope was just a community wide gaslighting session

[cerulean compass]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[late steeple]

Algum br?

[cloud basin]

Is it worth to re craft my dagger or should I just leave it for now

It's my offhand weapon. I know it's not really needed though

[lethal mortar]

does anyone know if there's a way to sim all the consumables

[woven shore]

normal raid looks like

[dusty crescent]

big tru

[nova aspen]

not worth, offhand is lowest priority of all gear slots

[slim pebble]

In two or more targets we are only hitting mutilate to ensure caustic doesn’t fall off right

[coral ibex]

lots of double negatives there

but yes mutilate for spatter

otherwise fok

[slim pebble]

Auto correct got me

[languid frigate]

Is there anything rogues can really do with this week's affix? Using cloak feels really inefficient. And crimson vial, even with iron stomach feels like it's so weak. Feel like a burden on healers being one of the only classes not helping.

[past bobcat]

Anyone doing sin on silken?

[coral ibex]

maybe you mutilate if you want prio damage

[grizzled fulcrum]

Use dwarf racial

[iron valve]

health potions / cavedweller potions

[balmy prism]

I'm losing my mind in mists, what the fuck is pulling me out of stealth after every gate in the labyrinth? even if I wait until the mobs spawn properly, stealth, and I still get pulled out?

[languid frigate]

So a 5min cd or a racial hmmm

[balmy prism]

also I've died to the invisible puddles on last boss way too many times

I'm boycotting mists

[nova aspen]

i've noticed this too

i found a fix though, if u hang back in the gate

for the stupid ass sky animation to end

u stay stealthed

[balmy prism]

Yeah I figured it was that but never tried hanging back

usually pug and for some reason most pugs dont have the solver so I have to lead da wey

[nova aspen]

otherwise i just wait until i can restealth then step to the pack

[coral ibex]

you can usually just restealth

it is annoying tho

[nova aspen]

seems like its intended, some lore and reveals all stealth? idk

im just guessing

[nova aspen]

well thats not good lmao

it should always be the healer

lots of downtime in those packs usually

[ashen zenith]

Anyone had any issues with the Rupture icon not showing on Cev's Plater, just a space where it should be?

[balmy prism]

yeah but the solver just shows the way so no need to do the mechanic

[tacit otter]

most consistent for me is not going stealth, and when tank pulls or gets close to stealth. the restealth timer can sometimes be a bit annoying

[nova aspen]

yea that prob works better

either way its like 2-3 seconds of in-combat downtime, kinda sucks

i've also noticed in dungeons where ill shadowstep in like 2-3 seconds after tank gets aggro and ill just instantly die from a melee

sometimes its directly after a garrote, or even before i open with a gcd

happened in a dawn 11 pull last night, tank had at least 2-3 gcd's before i stepped in

still got melee'd

[tough widget]

whats the latest science on embellishments?=

[spice surge]

It really doesnt matter, theyre all piss weak

But ascendance/lining/lense are all about the same

[idle radish]

i just did a key for fun with friends as sin, didnt apply deathstalkers mark once

sup

sup malarki

[nova aspen]

a wang sup

[nova aspen]

did u have fun?

[idle radish]

it was quite confusing

i kept looking at my details

and was like hm

this seems a bit low

[nova aspen]

deathstalker is too much shenanigans for me

we flippin coins over here

[idle radish]

do ppl play fatebound in keys

[nova aspen]

keeps me in touch with my outlaw side

[idle radish]

i havent done much rogue this season

[pliant remnant]

People?

Sure.

Human beings?

Eeeeh

[nova aspen]

i am getting ++11's as fatebound atm

it sims higher for me, but its typically more pad dmg, less prio dmg

which probably matters in snatching the title

[idle radish]

send da build

[shy sorrel]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[nova aspen]

ill send when i get home, bout to drive now

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/hwl5mAX.png i trolled so hard if i didn't step onto frigid spikes on the miniboss before amarth i would have fucking OWNED, literally released and ran all the way back

[austere ridge]

I'm gonna try fatebound in some keys fuck it

[bleak spoke]

i think the mark is too good tbh

like

when you don't have cds

except like ER or something (or if it's big enough a pull) like

you still have a real go

on a pack

maybe you get lucky with enough tails

and you bomb the packs anyway idk

[shy sorrel]

On wowhead you have the "ramping" and then the "CD sequence" in AoE. When the CD sequence is over it says to go to the normal rotation, is the "normal rotation" the same as ramping?

[austere ridge]

Guess if you have good prio I the group fatevound could be good

[dapper hound]

Bubbling wax not working again, great XD

[nova aspen]

There were pulls where the prio target still died before deathmark expired in these 11's, my group is fdk/ele sham/me

they are poompers

[dusty crescent]

really?

[echo fox]

yep

[dusty crescent]

how's it fucked up this time

[echo fox]

u can't apply it

Too much ilvl

[thick sigil]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[twin spoke]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[grim jay]

why do you troll that poor soul

[strong kernel]

newb sin rogue but whats the deal with deathstalker not letting me consume marks if i have darkest night on me

[spice surge]

its a bug

[strong kernel]

oh okay

was gonna make a macro to cancel darkest night on ambush

[celest helm]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[late gulch]

are assasin hard to learn =)?

[glass fulcrum]

Nah

[spice surge]

Singletarget is fairly straightforward

Aoe is a bit more complex

[glass fulcrum]

I like aoe more xdd

[nova aspen]

CMQA27SZpS4XnmFfcXRqkppuwPjZmZGmBDAAAAAAzGsNDAAAAAAttMzMmZmxYmZWmlxYwMzMzgZmZbbZMDgBWgZMaMLgsNgNA

[spice spire]

miss me w that virus

(this is a joke)

[idle radish]

what do u cold blood?

[thorn fjord]

env

[idle radish]

just on cd eh

or do u game it

[nova aspen]

i have it macro'd to env

but i have 2 env keybinds

for when u deathmark and its up

[thorn fjord]

you can macro it but its a slight loss if you send it before you send DM

[nova aspen]

yea

[thorn fjord]

So yeah what malarki does is optimal... Non CB env for before DM then you send the macro the rest of the time

[south lava]

does anyone got DM skardyn macro?

[zenith tree]

Like...

/use Skardyn's Grace
/cast Deathmark?

I have no clue if DM is one or two words

[sullen dust]

Do you have times when you run out of energy on ST?

[proven jasper]

yeah thats part of the gameplay

[dapper cradle]

Yeah usually after I spend all of it

[sullen dust]

#showtooltip
/use 13
/use 14
/cast Deathmark

[south lava]

thank you

[sullen dust]

Cool. I get starved when fights last 4 minutes. What do you do to have enough for next burst or just stay idle and pool energy

[dusty crescent]

wrong person woops

[dapper cradle]

Yeah you pretty much have to poolmaxx before your next burst

[dusty crescent]

go to 0 fix yourself some food until you get enough energy for envenom

[dapper cradle]

Part of the spec

Don’t get baited into sending your teas during this downtime

Save tea for shiv windows

[proven jasper]

If you play sub you can even go for a walk in between cooldowns

[dapper cradle]

Yeah just have a second monitor with some vanessa vancleef fanart going for a quick goon sesh

[proven jasper]

[bronze pike]

more like

[proven jasper]

this guy knows whats up

[bronze pike]

vanessa vanqueef

[proven jasper]

[bronze pike]

[proven jasper]

LMAO

[dusty crescent]

auto attacking for 30s is still wild to me

i'm bad at pooling ngl

i just spam

[proven jasper]

Over time you wont feel so anxious not spamming

just gotta find a comfy spot with ur energy

[dusty crescent]

i got multiple gold parses never pooling

but if i pool i could get 99's instead of 97s

🤔

gotta squeeze every bit of dps

[strong kernel]

radiant power or depths enchants? and whats the diff?

[upper wraith]

12 mists over by 32 seconds 😦

[dusty crescent]

how many deaths? seems solid dmg

maybe pathing was an issue?

[upper wraith]

ummm like 10 or so

yea we were short 1.5% on last boss and tried to cull an add in to time it

[keen glade]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[dusty crescent]

so what that's uhhh 1:50?

[strong kernel]

what target count should we be using crimson tempest at? and spamming fok instead of mutilate? icyveins doesnt tell me and im new to sin ;-;

[harsh anchor]

2:30

[proven jasper]

2+ for both

[strong kernel]

ooh okay thank you!

[proven jasper]

just need mutilate for spatter

[upper wraith]

yep 2

[strong kernel]

thank you guys!

[spring sigil]

God i wish rogues had slightly longer range

feel like i need to be up bosses ass sometime

[strong kernel]

would you recommend making a macro atm for the cancel of darkest night on ambushes so it doesnt stop me from using marks

[dusty crescent]

if only we could have ret range

[subtle tundra]

That's kinda low dps for a 12

[spring sigil]

i levled a ret up recently, their range in comparison is ridiculous

they're practically range

[upper wraith]

🙃 idk 2 chested a cot 11 before that

same group

[errant mauve]

is there a way to get dungeon messages like the game script that pops up on screen to not pop up

[spice surge]

Better move is to not ambush

[subtle tundra]

I mean 1.5m overall is on the low sife

[dusty crescent]

where should they be?

[runic hinge]

the high side

[dusty crescent]

just garrote 4head

[dusty crescent]

mathmatical!

[strong kernel]

so if i have darkest night up and im going to another pack its just better to open with garrote into rupture instead of ambush garrote rupture?

[spice surge]

Yes

Ambush stinks

[strong kernel]

oooh ok

[spice surge]

Youd much rather have 1 out of your 6 carnage globals for garrote or rupture

than ambush

[subtle tundra]

Yea I'm just elitist I guess

[strong kernel]

when carnage rupture/garrote fall off is it worth tab targetting and reapplying them all over again or just keep cleaving with spatter? (sorry im noob)

[coral ibex]

you want 20 stacks of scent of blood

dropping ruptures drops 20% agility

reapply them

[strong kernel]

oh okay

[spice surge]

Empowered garrotes on as many as possible

[coral ibex]

of course if mobs are about to die, don’t

[spice surge]

Ruptures on 5

[dusty crescent]

I'm merely asking for a rough number you'd suggest they'd be on

it'd probably be helpful for them

[spice surge]

Regular garrote only really on main target, unless theres not that many mobs

[dusty crescent]

rather than, do more

[spring sigil]

Are +9 keyes dead no or something lol

[coral ibex]

rupture gives 4 stacks of scent per application, so 5x4=20% agi

[spring sigil]

absolutely no one signing up for a +9 mists

[spice surge]

You need enough bleeds to sustain your energy (which is 4-5)

[strong kernel]

and make sure to rupture 5 mobs 24/7?

[strange python]

Same dw

[coral ibex]

9s are dead content now

[spice surge]

But since scent requires 5 mobs you want that

[spring sigil]

should i just drop it to 8...

[strange python]

Doing keys without a group is yuck

[coral ibex]

8s drop gilded

[strange python]

It’s also Friday

[coral ibex]

you get no benefit doing a 9 now

[strange python]

Fridays tend to be deadge on keys

[coral ibex]

other than io

[spring sigil]

and getting a 10 if you time xD

[coral ibex]

just +2 the 8

[spring sigil]

dropped it to a 8

[subtle tundra]

Yea maybe but if I say numbers I'll be called out or smth idk

Like the numbers I expect are too high

[dusty crescent]

the centrist approach

I get you

[coral ibex]

too late you already said 1.5 is low

[dusty crescent]

safe to say 1.9 to 2.1 then i'm assuming?

[subtle tundra]

Yea

[dusty crescent]

i gotta find 700k dps then :C i'm 1.2m overall boi

[subtle tundra]

I mean sure

[dusty crescent]

i'm only 615 tho

[ruby hound]

Sims for echoing reprimand vs cold blood are identical, this normal?

[subtle tundra]

Yea this is the problem

[coral ibex]

i pull like 1.5m at 615 too

we’re just gearlets bro

[dusty crescent]

My ilvl is a problem?

[subtle tundra]

I did my dmg in a very good group with good gear but I also was the first time playing with the group and didn't know shit

[dusty crescent]

:C i'm in a heroic only guild

people don't invite me to keys i'm trying

[nocturne quail]

You look at like rank 1 rogue doing 2mil overall, with battleshout, motw, and wind fury

[dusty crescent]

sniffle

[proud pelican]

Just run with an Aug and crop them out if your dps screenshot gg

[dusty crescent]

Oh snap

plot thickens

[strange python]

There’s definitely more rogues doing 2m with less of those buffs

[subtle tundra]

If you look at log it's in combat dps, on details it's higher

[spring moat]

I feel this is my bones

[nocturne quail]

Those three buffs are probably a lil more than 10 percent

I’m basing this off watching streams

So details

[subtle tundra]

If you're good and youve played the dungeon with the same group multiple times 2.5mil is a reasonable number

[crimson zephyr]

how can I choose items to sum? e.g. a bunch of trinekts here?

[nocturne quail]

What level key are you doing and which key

[subtle tundra]

But also needs to be high enough

(also not all dungeons can have such high overall)

[nocturne quail]

Bc I saw a 14 siege timed and rogue was highest at 2.1 mil

[dusty crescent]

i consistently parse 95-98's parses

[nocturne quail]

Boomy and mage below that

[dusty crescent]

safe to say i know decent enough, but gear lock is gear lock y'know?

[nocturne quail]

And they timed easily

[dusty crescent]

:C

[subtle tundra]

M+ parses are a meme

[dusty crescent]

i'm talking in raid bigdawg

[subtle tundra]

They mean nothing

Ah

Idk buddy

[outer sundial]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[subtle tundra]

Raid and dungeons are different things

[dusty crescent]

highest i've ever splooshed was like 1.6m overall at 615

i'm just talking about rotational knowledge

what ilvl are you at?

[subtle tundra]

Very different things

[nocturne quail]

Route also makes a huge difference, the routes they’re doing in top keys are probably not what you guys doing, and it’s a huge dps increase

[dusty crescent]

maybe 620 is a huge diff idk

[subtle tundra]

626 and it's low for my standards xd

[dusty crescent]

ah true

626 damn

[subtle tundra]

I wanted to be 629

[weak forum]

have builds changed at all with the changes?

[dusty crescent]

0 chance i'm getting to 626 anytime soon

[nocturne quail]

Yeah you could have 10 more ilvls

[dusty crescent]

can't get myth track gear if i can't get into mythic raids no?

[coral ibex]

10 ilvl is massive

[nocturne quail]

You could theoretically have three myth track pieces from vault

Plus two crafted 636

[dusty crescent]

work 6 days a week and raid on my one day off lol, i'm fucked

[subtle tundra]

Like I can go in a random 10 pug and bust 2mil if I play well

And the group is good

Ofc

[nocturne quail]

Route diff, and key diff too

[dusty crescent]

i assume bigger pulls

with more competent stops etc

yeah

pugging is veteran difficulty

if anyone says anything tank leaves lol

[fresh ingot]

same tank cant kick fairy boss in tirna tho 😂

[subtle tundra]

Same tank loses aggro on boss

And flames me for not having tricks

And having the "useless" talent

[dusty crescent]

tricks should be fucking baseline

and it's rediculous that it isn't

same for misdirect

30% dmg reduce slaps tho

[nocturne quail]

You should watch some vods, casualaddicts group pulled whole banana area in siege in basically 2 pulls

[dusty crescent]

the gonads on tank and heals

willing to pay 50k a run to people like that

[nocturne quail]

They rank one rank one

And very coordinated, the most dangerous thing seems the aoe from the demolishers, pulling 2 at a time

[dusty crescent]

what i would give for a M+ group

<.>

[late gulch]

is playing fatebound alot worse then the other hero talents in m+?

[subtle tundra]

It simmed quite a bit worse for me

[late gulch]

ah ok so better learn to play it then 🙂

[dusty crescent]

!sim

[balmy prism]

ascension on dagger is fine right? Think i gotta craft a 636 one anyway cause we ain't getting to princess in a while

[dusty crescent]

Damn where's the Sim YO SELF gif

smh

[balmy prism]

hahah I'm too lazy

[dusty crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[balmy prism]

and I don't trust embellishment sims

way too buggy usually

[orchid pewter]

if you are doing both m+ and raid dawnthread probably better

[balmy prism]

aight appreciate ya

[gleaming geyser]

Bloodbound dagger is good too

[balmy prism]

yeah but can't run 2x of em

[gleaming geyser]

yes you can

[balmy prism]

oh

[orchid pewter]

most people go for dawnthread afaik, ascension was only the early season weapon + embellishment joice

[gleaming geyser]

offhand DPS is borderline meaningless anyway; barely a difference between 626 hero track and 639 myth track off hand

[dusty crescent]

i'm double dawnthread but they're 619's

idk when i'll be able to recraft them T.T

[gleaming geyser]

not for a while; crests are so much better used on upgrading myth track gear

[balmy prism]

same atm hence I was asking since I have mythic track wrists to swap out my dawnthread

[dense talon]

quick question - if rupture runs off during death mark and kings bane, do u refresh it or continue with enevenom and then apply rupture once KB and deathmark ends?

[normal mist]

refresh

[balmy condor]

Link

[normal mist]

deathmark without the dots ticking is 0

[gleaming geyser]

you'd preferably refresh your dots before you DM tho so that you can keep chaining during KB

[dense talon]

on bosses, refreshing dots is so painful without energy and tt

[upper spear]

I might be wrong here, but i dont use thistle for burst windows unless im like 50% ish, using rather for energy management

[balmy condor]

You might be wrong yeah

[spice spire]

But you lose more energy by not refreshing

[upper spear]

i have negative reinforcement by being top dam in bosses and overall in M+ with 2600-3k teams

im brainwashing myself

[spice spire]

[bronze pike]

[upper spear]

a new screen saver

[strong kernel]

would you guys say depths or radiant power is better and why?

[spice spire]

[upper spear]

ST vs M+

[rotund oak]

depths ST radiant power for m+

[spice spire]

Depths better raid power better for keys

[worldly sail]

i use radiant because it sims within margin for ST and just wins in aoe

[strong kernel]

thank youuu

[spice spire]

Pick your poison

[violet jackal]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

Extremely based answer

Bless

[worldly sail]

[upper spear]

i have 4 daggers with both

[worldly sail]

[dusty crescent]

i use radiant rank 2's because i'm not paying for it again

[worldly sail]

tinderbox prices going down, cheap enchants for everyone

[weak forum]

so you have both enchants on each dagger? hax

[upper spear]

yes thats what i meant

[dusty crescent]

26k to 20k? awlord

[coral ibex]

tinderboxes are about 800g my guy

enchants are plummeting

[rotund oak]

everything does

even null stones

[coral ibex]

yea right when i unlocked full nulls from bismuth too

[rotund oak]

💀

should read a mining guide bro

i made 8mil from bismuth and null stones

[coral ibex]

they told me get mounted mining first

[rotund oak]

u have the golem mount

[upper spear]

I gold capped selling 5masks in BFA and been riding that since

[coral ibex]

i don’t really gather for gold, it’s just a way to pass time while i watch youtube or wait for friends to get on to do real content

if i need gold i’ll just buy a token bc i have a real job

[rotund oak]

im waiting for a tiger to gold cap

or a brutosaur

[dusty crescent]

i just work and buy gold

it is what it is

[coral ibex]

that’s what working adults do generally

[upper spear]

Ill probably never grind gold again, I did mine during Covid when nobody was working. Now I will 100% just buy tokens

[coral ibex]

“working” for gold is insane unless you’re unemployed or from the third world

[rotund oak]

i work my ass off and still find time to fly around with my druid making millions

[worldly sail]

i squeezed like 8 servers for gold selling green profession gear same thing which i did in dragonflight

[dusty crescent]

i help fund people in china and russia specifically

[dusty crescent]

well... apparently

[coral ibex]

i buy tokens bc i can’t be fucked risking my account for gold to dollar rate

[dusty crescent]

i'll risk the two weeks

i'm no mythic raider

[coral ibex]

my luck i would get permed

[dusty crescent]

blizz should worry about actual problems

[rotund oak]

ild rather sub with my card and be done with it but ild prioritize wow gold before paying rl money

[dusty crescent]

like actually responding to HR complaints

[coral ibex]

your money your time your choice

[rotund oak]

exactly

[strange python]

I wanna fly around on my Druid and make millions

Teach me

[dusty crescent]

i do want a bronto

[coral ibex]

step 1 start in early access

step 2 never stop

[strange python]

Okay we back to step 0

[dusty crescent]

which is like.... 200 dollars

[coral ibex]

the chance to make millions gathering is in the first weeks of an expansion

it’s gonna be dead for 18 months now

[rotund oak]

step 1 : lvl up a druid
step 2 : pick herb/mining
step 3 : read a herb/mining guide
step 4 : fly around and do ur thing

[dusty crescent]

until there's some new material to farm yeah

[strange python]

Isn’t it too late kinda

[oblique smelt]

heard some talk about dropping echoing reprimand and getting double vanish for keys is it griefing or good

[upper spear]

pins

[coral ibex]

you can still gather but the rates are much lower than they were just a few weeks ago

grinding for 50k/hr

[rotund oak]

its never too late for r3 materials but they lost like 70% of their value so u need to mine/herb more to make gold via selling quantity

[oblique smelt]

thank you sir

[coral ibex]

or you can spend $20 on a token for 200k, which is much less than an hour of work for me

time is money friend

[rotund oak]

ye tokens in europe are 280k

[upper spear]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-elon-meme-elon-musk-musky-elon-bitcoin-elon-musk-dodge-gif-20255076

[coral ibex]

sheeesh

[rotund oak]

and they will skyrocket

in couple of weeks to 350+

[coral ibex]

i mean i’m a working adult for more than 10 years i hope i make more than 20/hr

[upper spear]

tbh idk what my hourly even is

[coral ibex]

based

[meager plank]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[dusty crescent]

can't you buy a token then sell it at a higher price later?

[coral ibex]

yea

nothing forces you to sell or use the token in your inventory

[worldly sail]

i dont think you can resell it

thats runescape style

but if you buy with real money yeah you can hold it

[rotund oak]

depends where u live and what u do,u can work for 30 years and do less,its relative

but normally ye

[coral ibex]

the price is set by blizzard so i figured you could buy/sell at your whim

[rotund oak]

if u work on a certain field as a trained proffesional

[coral ibex]

for sure

my circumstances of birth were pretty solid

[dusty crescent]

i only make 19, but my benefits are easily worth like 35/hr

it is what it is

Waste Management has legitimately insane bene's

i get free college for life long as I work here

shit like that

[coral ibex]

yea didn’t mean it as a flex, it’s just how it is

[dusty crescent]

nah I took a paycut for superior benefits

[upper spear]

ok everyone post their 2023 tax returns now - rules are you cant blur anything out

[dusty crescent]

Idc

[rotund oak]

💀

[coral ibex]

good benefits are worth a cut

imo

[rotund oak]

paycut is never worth

get the benfits from ur work

increase ur value

and demand

[dusty crescent]

low CoL enviro, I have my own home and i take 2 vacations a year

I'm fine

[rotund oak]

u good then

ur work is a hobby

[dusty crescent]

I won't get my bugatti just yet, but you can at least let me ride shotgun in yours

[rotund oak]

ggs

yup

[upper spear]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-tate-bugatti-gif-27497986

[heady ridge]

is this a good place to ask for a log review? i just dont get why sometimes i get 98 parses at wipes and like 14 -at that point- in kills

[coral ibex]

wipe logs are fake

[dusty crescent]

depending on some things i may x4 my yearly, if i take this new job but we'll see

I'll keep you updated @rotund oak

[coral ibex]

you’re comparing to other wipes

[upper spear]

ill look at them, but i dont call myself an expert

trying to burn 20 mins on a customer call

[heady ridge]

as in, the 98 is compared to other wipes, but the 14 is compared to other kills?

[upper spear]

i get likes 90s in heroic , im casual this tier

[coral ibex]

correct

[heady ridge]

I see

[rotund oak]

im building my own life fam since i can remember 😉

[zenith tree]

Is there any sort of "upgrade prio" list? I assume something along the lines of weapons > trinkets > tier but outside of that I'm lost

[dusty crescent]

You don't want my updates then? :C

[warm scarab]

save gilded for myth items 😉

[upper spear]

@heady ridge link logs on a kill

[zenith tree]

I am big noob and only can run 7s atm

[coral ibex]

if you can time a 7 you can deplete an 8 for crests

there’s no new affix

[dusty crescent]

This is the way

[rotund oak]

its irrelevant,no one cares 😉

[heady ridge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/w6a1JQp3FLBP9AZz#fight=25&type=damage-done
this is my kill, this one would be the one wipe i got like 96 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7AvyFN8DZp49WcRY#fight=43&type=damage-done

[royal lantern]

i mean, yeha kinda?

mainhand weapon is highesst priority always, trinkets are always nice, offhand and rings/neck is lowest priority (offhand just doesnt really matter, neck/rings dont give mainstat so ilvl upgrades are less big impact)

[dusty crescent]

: / I care about your successes

[warm scarab]

i did weps and trinkets first

[dusty crescent]

Damn, so nihilistic

[heady ridge]

comparing both fights up to 3 mins i do like 100k more damage in the wipe dunno why

[rotund oak]

ty i wish u the best as well

[dusty crescent]

This is the start of our friendship, don't run from it

[upper spear]

Queen is a funky fight for rotation, Pricess or Brood would be better

[royal lantern]

crits/procs

your dmg is not 100% static by default allready

now put in fight mechanics that sometimes give downtime, the normal RNG you have etc......

[normal mist]

M+ is a fun and interactive game mode

[loud brook]

how should your dmg breakdown look like?

[dusty crescent]

all day for me

[normal mist]

at this point

no idea

[haughty verge]

any changes to wax?

[heady ridge]

yeah i'd assume queen being a very mechanic fight would cause differences in downtime, however i believe i had the timings down for when to burst etc. at least in phase 1 / phase 2

the kill was more or like the second time we managed to get to phase 3 so i did not know much what to do there lmao

[slim pebble]

Hell yeah

[gleaming geyser]

no changes, but some people are reporting not being able to apply it to their weapons

[slim pebble]

I finally got into a 10 last night. NW. it was a shit show

[heady ridge]

i guess it does come down to crits and procs orz

[upper spear]

Spatter damage is low, could be due to your team nuking adds or you not priming an Env spam for right times

[haughty verge]

it works fine rn

[upper spear]

i have 60M last queen kill, you has 22

[heady ridge]

yeah our warr saves all his cds to parse on silken tombs XD

[upper spear]

ill save a full CP Env for the second they spawn

[heady ridge]

I think I already do that

[past panther]

do your own key

[heady ridge]

I'd say at silken tombs i do Envenom>FoK>Envenom and then we're already out

[bleak spoke]

My entire guild plays to beat everyone else to the punch on silken tomb

[normal mist]

my key isnt grim batol

so no

never

[loud brook]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[bleak spoke]

Sometimes we’re out before the fok

[past panther]

good luck

[coral ibex]

if you do your key it could turn into a grimby

[heady ridge]

[normal mist]

i'm already forcing myself to Q

:C

gotta do my daily GB run

[upper spear]

looks like you missed a ton of dam on Cuastic Skitters, the bridge phase

i have 50M there, you have 6

[heady ridge]

Oh that does sound like a problem

my RL says not to hit them so the tanks aggro them first

now that I realize I'm a rogue and have tricks of the trade I get that I'm probably rworded

[upper spear]

ya, but you an dot them for energy and then by time you do that slam them as you move to the prio add

tricks too

[brisk path]

damn, 12s slap hard

[heady ridge]

damn i feel so bad now i should've done that lmao

[upper spear]

i mean tbh its probably pad

[zealous wolf]

Does anyone use a seperate weakaura to remind yourself to use 2nd shiv?

[heady ridge]

i mean that happens twice so its probably the difference between the 32 i got and at least a blue parse

[upper spear]

the LE one is pretty straight forward

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/qmW2M1g.png guess the raid size

[upper spear]

i mean i only got like an 80, but theres 150m total damage different between us. ur Ilvl is also a factor, i have 5 on you.

[zealous wolf]

Hm, i use whispyrs, i might add some audio alert to tell me to use it

[heady ridge]

tf

[zealous wolf]

I think his also glows or something when you need to use it

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/QWsjHlf.png correct this is a 29 man split

i'm trying to time the envenom to the frame before the spawn

[heady ridge]

perks of being a jobber i go from work directly to raid so i can't do keys

[bleak spoke]

and getting a ctw

[upper spear]

same but i do keys after raid

[dusty crescent]

when i get off work saturday i sleep for 5 hrs then go to raid

brutal

[stray fox]

you guys notice

grim batol keys are screening if you have the trinket

[upper spear]

i took a 20k pay cut to never work weekends again when switching jobs (but ya better benefits)

[bleak spoke]

i have so much fomo, i can't raid anymore so i try to have my fun by being a helper in my guild's splits

[dusty crescent]

bene's really do be hitting

[cobalt sphinx]

do you work and raid 7 days a week

[upper spear]

wut

[heady ridge]

nah but balancing work/life/playing has been tough

[stray fox]

if a class making the key doesn't have trinket they dont invite other classes that watn trinket

[heady ridge]

anyways really grateful for the comments @upper spear thanks

[dusty crescent]

real shit

[upper spear]

np, if you're seeing that on more simple fights like Queen, Brood, or Sikran we can go more into detail

[bleak spoke]

in a twisted way it would be worse if like plate classes didn't get their best trinket out of there too

[upper spear]

im at like 30 clears or so, still no drop, rocking a 606 version

any time it drops, it goes to a DPS i had to drag like a dog through the key

and the amount of times thats happened is actually hilarious

[royal lantern]

dont forget that the passive caster trinket in GB is really good aswell

[heady ridge]

here's to hoping getting grim batol trinket saves me from trolling progress by doing the treacherous transmitter simon says

[upper spear]

we had an arcane mage pull 400k dps overall, and 3k io healer. Trinekt dropped for the mage.

was cinematic really

[bleak spoke]

one of my guild's dhs did like 7-10 a day or something on mythic week, got the skardyn's on monday night, and immediately opened his vault on the following tuesday to one

[shell crest]

Is there a weakaura/plater profile that tracks remaining health before sudden demise pops?

[royal lantern]

? there iss nothing to track

[bleak spoke]

i imagine if you were to write one you would play at about 5 spf

not fps, spf

🙂

[royal lantern]

and that wa would have to update every 0,2 second lol

you cant even play around it

sudden demise exists

that sit

[shell crest]

class discords try not to be condescending challenge (level: impossible)

[brisk path]

that would not piss me off tbh, ran it 22 times too and still hoped I will get myth version in vault

[royal lantern]

90% of its value is the 10% more bleed dmg, not the "execute"

[upper spear]

i dont think its condescending, it would just be an oversatured WA probably

[shell crest]

A simple no would've sufficed

[bleak spoke]

i was gonna offer to try to write it

[cobalt sphinx]

this channel can be extremely condescending though i agree

[shell crest]

I asked a simple question

[royal lantern]

we explained WHY its not a thing

[bleak spoke]

but i guess my attitude is too bad unlucky

[upper spear]

you're looking at a mob at 20% and you're thinking "rupture or env". but in big pulls how would u actually utilize that.

you're probably better of planning for the next pull.

idk, i havent seen it, prob wouldnt use it if it exists

[royal lantern]

and the TL:DR is

sudden demise is nothing you "track", hell the "execute" of it is nothing but a QoL thing

if you would make a WA, its in the "you would kill your PC cus it needs too calculate the HP and dmg your bleeds do every single time they lose hp" area

and for what in the end? you cant even intract with the talent

[bleak spoke]

yeh, i wouldn't mind either tbh, but it is kinda amusing

[waxen oyster]

Why are you a literal snowflake

[cobalt sphinx]

more

[royal lantern]

shut up nerd

[cobalt sphinx]

we need more regulars to flame him

[waxen oyster]

i remember i used to have

a time to die wa

then i realized

how much resource it used

[bleak spoke]

allegedly the ttd out of MRT isn't that laggy, according to my guild's spriest

[shell crest]

I'm not? Just didn't appreciate the attitude lmao

[brisk path]

I got offered 1M when it dropped, declined

[waxen oyster]

If you think that’s enough to be attitude

rough

[bleak spoke]

i would decline too, i gotta get rid of this god damn transmitter man

[tribal gulch]

Hmm

[brisk path]

JUMP THREE TIMES

[cobalt sphinx]

you just gotta get used to it, every class discord enables these attitudes

it's promoted in here too

[royal lantern]

what

are you talking about

[shell crest]

Yeah I guess, jesus christ

[tribal gulch]

Snarky comment met with more snark

[bleak spoke]

i thought jump would never not be safe until i learned that jumping makes tredova suck you in faster during the weird phase

[upper spear]

Assa Disord is edge maxing for sure

[runic hinge]

we're gooners in here

[bleak spoke]

i take every opportunity i can to edge

[upper spear]

uncapped edging

[cobalt sphinx]

jumping gets you killed on the ansurek yank too

[past panther]

yes

[bleak spoke]

i really wish intermission didn't have that little passive suck like

[waxen oyster]

tbh why would you be using cds

on that yank

[dusty crescent]

If you're going to suck you better swallow too or why even do it y'know?

[waxen oyster]

i mean i just play pirate on hc ansurek

then watch my ar tick down during phase swaps

and remind myself devs clearly playtest this game

[upper spear]

"hold CDs for suck phase"

-no

[waxen oyster]

idk whoever made succ phase

[bleak spoke]

apparently there's some shadowstep tech for it

[waxen oyster]

doesnt play melee

[bleak spoke]

no they do, they play dk

[waxen oyster]

whoever made this expa even

dks been bong ripping and doing 0 mechanics

[upper spear]

can u step mid pull and just spawn infront of her

[waxen oyster]

since SL

[upper spear]

i made a step macro to a boomkin

[waxen oyster]

terrible choice

of player

[upper spear]

hes awlays max range so it works lol

[waxen oyster]

yeah but its a boomkin player

[severe sparrow]

wait tredova has a suck?

[waxen oyster]

do you really trust

yes

[upper spear]

i also pug Grim 10s with Azralon so

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/XQctTrf.png at least this week with the benefit of hindsight, i shoudl have held deathmark and kb for the 4th cast of ER and sent it on intermission

[severe sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/expression-harognakoshl-facial-expressions-wtf-gif-13803677

[bleak spoke]

exactly 2:24

[severe sparrow]

where the fuck have i been since SL

[bleak spoke]

is diabolical

[brisk path]

TIL we can change spell queue window 😐

[waxen oyster]

i should call her

[past panther]

you’re braver than anyone i know

[waxen oyster]

he didnt have a suck

in SL

as far as im aware

[past panther]

i reject azralon and rag players aaaall the time

[vague flare]

anyone done the crafted ring thing? u just have to make a 636 ring then recraft it right?

[upper spear]

its like working out Cross Fit in the mountains - you come out so much stronger

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/jUN7WJx.png

@upper spear given your name, i think you understand

[past panther]

just can’t do it man

[severe sparrow]

ok well then where the fuck have i been since w1 keys cuz admittedly ive probably done less than 40 total cuz i got m+ anxiety and usually have to pug but god damn

[past panther]

i had a azralon bear tank int a +7 mist

something that should’ve been an easy +2 or +3 by all standards

[severe sparrow]

im gonna have to go home and do a mists after work lol

[past panther]

he found a way to baaaarely make it a +1 tho

never again

[bleak spoke]

mists is probably tuned the lowest in the set, but i thnk i still hate that place regardless

[past panther]

it’s definitely the easiest key imo

[nimble tartan]

sin is so chill

[waxen oyster]

somehow my most timed pug

[upper spear]

i had an Azralon tank in GB pull 1 fire golumn beofre 2nd boss, than the 2nd fire goulmn into the boss - i couldnt tell if his cock was huge or fell off

[waxen oyster]

is nw

[past panther]

DB isn’t awful imo

[severe sparrow]

yeah i dont have a problem with nw even though i hear people complaining about it

[brisk path]

NW is assa heaven

[waxen oyster]

db is like

a keyboard plugged in

[upper spear]

we killed NW 3rd boss in 43 seconds, it was beautiful

[waxen oyster]

for healer check

[upper spear]

was on a 10 or 11

[severe sparrow]

i tried to do a 10 db like week 1 and we got stuck on uh the boss with the big danger orb by the fountain (forgive me im bad at names) for like 45 minutes and i still have ptsd from that

[cobalt sphinx]

anubikkaj?

just an aoe healing thing?

[severe sparrow]

i could believe that name

[cobalt sphinx]

you can full wipe once or twice and still time dawnbreezy on 10 or 11

the timer is so forgiving

[upper spear]

was playing with a 3k io tank who told us about some tech on last boss, if you use your last bomb at a certain time it knocks off 1% of the 5% you need to kill for the final phase

[arctic cove]

hello guys, is 49% mastery too much?

[upper spear]

sim

[arctic cove]

how do i sim if a certain stat is too much?

[cobalt sphinx]

you should never look at your percentage haste vers crit or mastery values

those numbers are absolutely meaningless

[upper spear]

you could stat weights for a rough guess

but probably would want ot test similar gear

then decide if you want to focus M+ or raid

[dim yacht]

best way to get stat weights is to ask your imp in a ball toy

will give you just as good an answer as anything else

[bleak spoke]

despite popular opinion, stat weights do not lie, mh weapon dps and agility are, indeed, pretty decent

[upper spear]

ive never been lied to in my life

[balmy condor]

Your dick is average

[grim jay]

never advise anyone to sim statweights for any reason

[upper spear]

come prove it

[balmy condor]

[severe sparrow]

i kinda miss seeing if an item was potentially upgrade by just having pawn right in the tooltip though, now i gotta have my second window open with my sims. simpler times.

[waxen oyster]

well there is a way to tell

big ilvl

[severe sparrow]

well yeah

[upper spear]

nah i sim at 590

GOTTA KNOW

[severe sparrow]

someone in my casual dads side guild still often mentions using stat weights and pawn

ive tried to convert them but theyre all too intimidated and confused

(which is probably why theyre hardstuck on 2nd boss of heroic)

[upper spear]

i know statweights isnt trustworthy, but i dont know why

i just tend to sim like 20 different scenarios then find one i like

[balmy condor]

Stat weights are very rudimentary

And they can hallucinate a little

[cedar hatch]

Anyone got any clear plater profile?

[upper spear]

but whats the actual error margin

like 10-20%?

[balmy condor]

It’s not error margin it’s just a bad system

Like with top gear right

You compare item A against item B

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

Stat weights try to emulate that by simming your character against an addition of X stat

For each stat

[waxen oyster]

whispyr’s plater has a script that mails him all your gold

/j

[balmy condor]

So it’s not accounting for the loss of a stat

Nor is it accounting for big swings

Like going from a 5k haste neck to a 5k crit neck

[severe sparrow]

do stat weights consider the stats you would lose by say, exchanging a crit/vers item for a mast/haste one? it cant possibly, right? bc it doesnt know what piece you're looking at taking off to replace

[balmy condor]

It’s basically adding a gem socket and then filling it with a gem and seeing which is the best

Which… isn’t great

[upper spear]

i think i get it, it only simns for additions, not subtractions, which isnt realistic

[balmy condor]

No

It’s legit just simming your character, simming your character with +idk, 500 haste let’s say

And then subtracting the two values and dividing by 500

To get per haste value

Repeat for all the stats

[severe sparrow]

TIL

[balmy condor]

Each one of those profiles it’s simming still has the same error margin of a normal sim

So it’s legit just doing top gear but worse in every imaginable way

[hallow pelican]

And different stats have different impacts depending on what your other stats are.

[balmy condor]

Correct

[upper spear]

today we learned

[hallow pelican]

yay i figured it out!

[balmy condor]

This isn’t as much a problem for us as for other specs

But things like fury warrior at least a while ago

Had these mini breakpoints

Where they could get like +1 gcd in an enrage or 1 extra raging blow

[cobalt sphinx]

outlaw too will say haste > agility

if you are below the haste cap

[balmy condor]

And that would give them a little breakpoint

Like not a full on breakpoint

Just a little bump

[warm vortex]

Did they break oils again

[upper spear]

so why do they still have it

[balmy condor]

It would be like every 3% haste or something

[soft shale]

wax is working on and off

3h ago i could not apply now i can again

[balmy condor]

And the issue this caused was stat weights would have a really low haste value if you just passed one of those micro breakpoints

Like going from 15 to 11

[hallow pelican]

you have to swap weapons after applying , then swap back

[balmy condor]

But the moment they changed gems to replace the haste

They resimmed

[cursive owl]

i quiet not undersrand how crit def mechanic work at fatebound , Crit = Def cooldown ? can someone explain maybe

[balmy condor]

And haste was like 18-19 now

[balmy condor]

You have a chance equal to your crit to reduce the damage

So you take damage

[cursive owl]

ohhh

[balmy condor]

And it checks what your crit chance is

You then have that chance to reduce the damage

[cursive owl]

[balmy condor]

It’s real bad

[cursive owl]

the reduced ammount is fix right ?

[waxen oyster]

my sin sim rn says mast>agi

[balmy condor]

Yes I think it’s 10%?

Something like that

[cursive owl]

10%

[balmy condor]

That’s normal

[cursive owl]

thats like nothing

[balmy condor]

Yeah you have a 1/4 chance to reduce your damage taken by 10%

[cursive owl]

blizz cooking bad hero talents ?

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i mean fatebound tree has piss defensive value

[balmy condor]

And it’s only from hits

Dots don’t count I think

So ansurek p1?

[cursive owl]

wow :_;

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

People look at the defensive talents?

[raven sonnet]

Hey, does anyone remember the name for the websiter where u could se when guilds used healing cds on boss fights?

[waxen oyster]

[cursive owl]

well im running around 38% crit

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah

[waxen oyster]

dh has a really weird one

[upper spear]

if IRon Wire didnt help group targets i wouldnt play it

[waxen oyster]

that converts part of their damage taken into a fire dot

[haughty lantern]

would you guys say 615 is enough to do level 8 keys?

[balmy condor]

You’re so real

[haughty lantern]

i've been queing for like 30 minutes now with no invites

[waxen oyster]

do yes

[cursive owl]

i look on everything i dont quiet understand , so i do understand them eventually and be a better player

[waxen oyster]

get an invite?

unlikely

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s cause you’re queuing into a flood of 625’s

[runic hinge]

should be 25% chance to reduce damage by 100%

[balmy condor]

Unless you’re like 2800 io you’re kinda doomed

[haughty lantern]

yeah i fuckin missed my chance of doing keys last night with my guild due to.....lets just say "unfortunate timing" of familial obligations

[cursive owl]

[upper spear]

raise your own key, someties its the only way

[crude sequoia]

bruh yes

[waxen oyster]

when i pug my own 10s

[spice spire]

uh

[balmy condor]

Pugging is just bad

[spice spire]

easily

[waxen oyster]

i dont bother with people below 620

ngl

[haughty lantern]

hang on let me get a fuckin picture real quick from yesterday

i did a 5 butthole

[spice spire]

I was 616 pugging 9s and chilling

earlier today

[haughty lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720469867651792916/1294150271277989948/image.png?ex=670a9f9c&is=67094e1c&hm=79ab19c4827cb060b51819cc820cd330228a760dc4cb954a25aa8207b6a68547&

[upper spear]

the amount of times ive seen a group pick double ret over me makes me wanna kms

[balmy condor]

[vestal cliff]

omg i finally got skardyns

[upper spear]

congrats

[crude sequoia]

if it’s hard to get into keys, just form a group with your own key

[upper spear]

ban him

[waxen oyster]

tf does double ret do

[spice spire]

I still have ur grim butthole

[crude sequoia]

very easy

no wait time

[balmy condor]

Date day today

[upper spear]

more spin

[balmy condor]

:3

[cobalt sphinx]

i have pugged 0 keys but i like to hear stories about people pugging keys

[waxen oyster]

i feel its not even that good of a comp

[cobalt sphinx]

i vicariously live the pug life through guild chat

[upper spear]

preach

[waxen oyster]

only stack i’ve ever made a pug

[balmy condor]

I’ve pugged keys but I’m geared enough to get invites

[waxen oyster]

was healer and dps sham

[upper spear]

ya thats common

[spice spire]

when

[balmy condor]

Today

[spice spire]

what time today

[balmy condor]

All day

[cursive owl]

ok

[spice spire]

you obtuse fuck

[storm forum]

My experience puging 7s and 8s has been good, I have yet to complete a 9 or 10 with pugs.

[spice spire]

I'm on rn

[cursive owl]

its only 10%

[novel star]

be nice

[cursive owl]

and capped at 40% chance

[balmy condor]

I’ll let my Uber know to turn the car around

[spice spire]

no

[cursive owl]

on "all damage"

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

I don’t know if he speaks English

[spice spire]

y r u this way

[upper spear]

whats the odds we see a big talent shift in the next patch for 15 second silence openers

[bronze pike]

hit em with one of these

傻逼

[balmy condor]

Dude he greeted me in mandarin

Do I look Chinese

[upper spear]

yes

cant be too careful in the Bay, you could be

[balmy condor]

True

Mostly Chinese vs Vietnamese though

[upper spear]

I take the ferry everywhere

is very nice

[zenith tree]

what's the command for the chart with upgrades/key drops?

[haughty lantern]

yeah at this point im just like flinging myself at any group with and seeing what sticks

[novel star]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[zenith tree]

ty

[novel star]

except gilded in 8s now

[upper spear]

gotta get ahead of the IO curve early or else its hell -- im 2500 and still get ego'd by 1800s in GB 7s

also people are dick riding Enh Ret like they're getting paid

[dull cloak]

pugging 9s was hard. invites + groups fail alot. but then 10s and 11s was surprisingly easy. then 12s is basically a wall

[eternal sandal]

i have a question about gear, ive got a skardyns grace and Spyglass/Waning candle.
When i sim it candle is better but the tier list puts spyglass as bis. any thoughts?

[soft shale]

10s depends on dungeon

[severe sparrow]

I'm behind the io curve and I'm stuck applying to things 5-7 and no one wants me even though im like 1.9k and 620

[soft shale]

grim batol is super hard to get into

yea that is the struggle

[upper spear]

are you simming ST or M+

[late tusk]

hello new here, when on guides puts maintain Crimson in 2 targets, it means cast it 2 times?

[eternal sandal]

im a goober, im not good at sim, i did dungeon slice

sry, m+

[soft shale]

only once it applies in aoe

[late tusk]

ah nice

like rupture

[upper spear]

make sure you have all the right talents and sims setup, after that could just be an ilvl diff

[eternal sandal]

same track, maxed them out :/

[upper spear]

whats the % diff

[eternal sandal]

.3

[upper spear]

the npick whats easier to play probably

[blazing slate]

Would anyone be willing to take a look at a log and tell me what I'm doing wrong?

[runic hinge]

@spice spire would

[upper spear]

@balmy condor what key lvl does Dslice sim on

[upper spear]

not an expert but might know enough to be helpful, DM it to me.

[haughty lantern]

short of grinding my IO up step by step, there is literally no way for me to progress my ilvl aside from doing 8s

[eternal sandal]

ran for raid sim, spyglass was better by less than .1%
LOL

[indigo ginkgo]

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[eternal sandal]

does it try to factor in waning candles ally buffing?

[upper spear]

whats the trinket?

[eternal sandal]

Spelunker's waning candle vs Dead-eye spyglass

[cobalt sphinx]

there's 629 shoulders and belt in the auction house

[eternal sandal]

im just kinda baffled that something listed as C tier is better than high A tier on the same Ilvl

[haughty lantern]

i try not to spend obscene amounts of gold on temporary gains...

[upper spear]

whats ur ilvl

[eternal sandal]

like 616 currently, i maxed out the trinkets on the sim

[upper spear]

@balmy condor help, im cooking some shit and its telling me things.

dropping bone spike for Arterial is Dslice simming +2%

[novel star]

[upper spear]

on Bleed build

[hushed maple]

as I am quite new to Rogue (after BFA)as it is my alt...is that somewhat the correct DMG dispersion for spells in a Key overall? (Mists +7)

[cobalt sphinx]

looks fine

[novel star]

what key level

[hushed maple]

7

[eternal sandal]

my Crimson tempest tends to be higher but i might be bad at it :p

[dusty crescent]

i wish I could sim more talents without raidbots saying 5 gorillion simulations

[surreal citrus]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[hushed maple]

mobs kinda died fast

[novel star]

caustic and especially CT both look low but it’s a 7 with a frost

so probably fine?

[hushed maple]

I i did not bother applying a second CT in a pull

[novel star]

yeah if they’re dying that fast it’s gna look bricked

it’s fine then

[hushed maple]

But I still kinda do the opener wrong thats for sure

I am alwas struggling if I should Mut for Caustic or prepare CT etc first

its strange idk

[upper spear]

heres my last Grim, only a 7, plz ignore that piss poor Feral

[coral ibex]

CT first

[trail scarab]

When you are pooling energy inbetween cds on st while maintaining bleeds and envenom buff, do you actually gain energy? trying not to overlap with envenom but not really able to gain much for next set of cds

[cobalt sphinx]

holy

how do i get that battered red drake

[novel star]

i would assume it depends on if you’re using ambush gcd 1 or not

i might be wrong

but

[upper spear]

full send big fire on any pats that touch

[novel star]

if ambush gcd 1 the ct pops a dsm that spatters

[lethal arrow]

CT could be a bit higher thats all

[hushed maple]

aight. Thanks for the feedback

[cobalt sphinx]

i don't think you'll have enough pooling going to fill your energy, it just gets you enough to maintain envenom

if you spam finishers you will drop envenom

[errant mauve]

if i remove models from a WA will the WA still work how do i check that?

[novel star]

depends on the wa

afenar packs use models for visual flare shit and nothing functional changes

[trail scarab]

oh ok, then it is kinda working out at least

[novel star]

some use models for like actual important stuff i think

maybe i’m wrong idk

[normal mist]

I just got trashtalked by 3 guys because we had to replace them for Queen HC to invite guildies

i'm now a no life, FOTM reroller, 2k rio trash meta shit rogue

[novel star]

true and based

how’d u select who to kick

why they angy

[rain jewel]

Hello, dear fellow Assassination Rogues, i have acquired the Ovinax mercurial egg.. judging by bloodmallet, its 3rd best for ST(probably best in combination with Skardyns(which i already have) and 2nd best for AOE/M+... so... how do i use it? Is there a calculation? Since i get Agility for Standing still and Sec Stat for moving ! Do i move? do i stand still, how do i use it properly? Any help is much appreciated ❤️

[upper spear]

joining a full Azralon Grim 9, wish me luck.

[novel star]

optimally you balance it at 15/15 i think