assassination

[dusty crescent]

vanish on stun

apply DM

[silver otter]

Worst recent one was a Vengeance Demon Hunter in stonevault 9 who was pulling and shitton and dying, did that on 3 pulls then left

[blazing slate]

if you play master assasin, should u vanish 3 sec before kingsbane finishes?

[wise mist]

yeah i mean you're gonna have fuck ups and shit happens. in my 10 GB our shaman healer dc/d on the first boss, then he came back and accepted bres then dc and died again and never came back

[coral ibex]

most builds dont run MA

[dusty crescent]

watching this makes me feel i'm not optimizing envenom uptime as much

i dont mut env mut env

[silver otter]

Also dumb question but if you go into a pack with no restealth and no Vanish, do you just spend like 10 GCDs to get your ruptures up ?

[woven shore]

you dont use ct ?

[coral ibex]

yes

[silver otter]

I mean to get 5 if supposedly you get enough cb

It feels like setup takes forever without restealth

[coral ibex]

more time in combat is better

[dusty crescent]

if pack is going to die in 30s i just have it on 3 and focus down mobs funnel style

[silver otter]

That's the kind of information that's really interesting

guess I'll have to try sin again in keys when I come back from holidays

[woven shore]

okay

[teal stratus]

is there a WA that tracks the darkest night buff?

[woven shore]

i was wondering if i had to keep garrot up

[dusty crescent]

i've had instance where by the time i have 5 ruptures up and get my caustic on something it lasts for 15s

[woven shore]

so when ur ER is up and garrot running out

[dusty crescent]

and i've wasted all that effort

[woven shore]

you use it to get envenom uptime ?

[coral ibex]

garrote is energy, keep it up when you need it

improved garrote and ss are decent damage

[woven shore]

he used er then waited with garrot

so he doesnt spend more energy

that was cool

yea

time to queue up for 1h

get me my trinket

ill upgrade it to 626

then be ilv 619

then the fking boots from here

and im gtg

[nimble ether]

I use https://wago.io/zMLPwCZHx

[teal stratus]

ty

[dawn heath]

ye i use ct when fighting both bosses

but i dont feel like its giga important either way

[tall marsh]

Hey guys!! Should I use assasination on raids? I'm bit noob with rogue

[silver otter]

Dumb WA question, is there a way to update imported WAs automatically ?

[dawn heath]

i think assa is the best raid spec now

after this weeks buffs

for rogue

[fallen arch]

I think it’s still sub

But close

[silver otter]

All specs are kinda okay in the raid so far.

[fallen arch]

Assa easier

[silver otter]

Unless you're progging mythic probably

[dusty crescent]

i only play assa

refuse to play other specs

can't make me

[silver otter]

lol I change specs every 5minutes

[dusty crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[dawn heath]

i have only played rogue for 2 weeks the thought of learning to play sub just for necrotic wake is kinda rough

[silver otter]

Gotta taste all the rogue flavours

[dusty crescent]

negative

[dawn heath]

i dont wanna do it

[deep gyro]

But sub is fun

[dusty crescent]

just for stitchflesh?

[silver otter]

Sub is rough in M+, I love it in raids though

[dawn heath]

the meta is to teleport out of the duengon on NW just for third boss

[dusty crescent]

sub aint worth it

[dawn heath]

so u can kill him

with only 1 hook

[dusty crescent]

lulwhat

[dawn heath]

y

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103960660527816746/1293890109602660422/image.png?ex=67090491&is=6707b311&hm=91249a4fce3e2f363aa934c243373227a0c692d4b6be2bab988117ad06a447a3&

u can see casualaddict here he tps out of and plays this boss as sub

doing alot of dps

if he played sin he would do 2mil

[dusty crescent]

thats.... interesting

[dawn heath]

u wont kill this boss without teleporting out

on a 14 key

and respeccing

[dusty crescent]

3 spears lust and uhh

the orb

not enough?

[dawn heath]

nope

[dusty crescent]

got a youtuve vid of this full run?

[zenith prairie]

Probably not with balance ass

[past panther]

Sub on NW for the big burst on 3rd boss?

[silver otter]

Seems so

[dawn heath]

u play assa the whole key

[zenith prairie]

Well it also gives you sub on last boss

[dawn heath]

then u use your teleport to tp out

and respec sub

enter again

[past panther]

hahaha

[dawn heath]

play sub for the last 2bosses

[violet berry]

Can I use two of the same crafted dagger?

[silver otter]

The fact that you can and have to do that is so dumb lol

[nimble ether]

Joe rogueing

[subtle tundra]

Welcome to world first key pushing

[zenith prairie]

Well you don’t have to

[silver otter]

Yes they're not marked unique afaik

[dusty crescent]

i'd love to see the video of this

[silver otter]

correct me if I'm wrong

[dusty crescent]

where do i go to find it

[royal lantern]

orb does no dmg

pls, people need to learn that

[silver otter]

orb just does interrupts

[royal lantern]

the orb interupts, it doessnt do any dmg

[dusty crescent]

i thought it did both lmao

woops

[past panther]

NW scaling seems wonky for 3rd boss

[royal lantern]

you use 1 orb and 1 spear for the 2nd boss, and 2 spears on the 3rd bosss, maybe a shield if you have one

[silver otter]

It's still useful on the 4 caster pack before bridge for example

[royal lantern]

it did during SL, but not anymore

[past panther]

Like it’s a bricked key if you don’t kill him w/ the 3 harpoons and your burst

[subtle tundra]

Got changed yes

[woven shore]

im done guys

[silver otter]

or the double marauder pack if you pull a bit more

[fallen arch]

This is a new level of sweaty cringe for me

[royal lantern]

ye like

you use orb for the big pulls and for the 2nd boss

[fallen arch]

Tping out and respeccing to be able to kill a boss

[subtle tundra]

Nothing new

[dawn heath]

its not about cringe

its about they cant kill the boss

[fallen arch]

I know

[dawn heath]

without doing this

[subtle tundra]

It has always been done since tps got introduced

[royal lantern]

brudi, wasn los

[subtle tundra]

Frost mage to fire mage prime example

[woven shore]

ich kann nicht mehr

[fallen arch]

Ye that shouldn’t be a thing

[keen viper]

What consumables do u use for m+ ?

[dawn heath]

this is nothing new though

[fallen arch]

Ye I recall

[fallen arch]

Wax

[coral ibex]

wax and tempered pots

[royal lantern]

dann lasses, musst dir keinen stress machen, m+ mit random ist halt giga pain und sollte man so gut wie es geht vermeiden

[dawn heath]

in s3 DF rogues tp'd out in galakrons fall last boss

[coral ibex]

m+ … giga pain

some stuff is universal

[dawn heath]

cause i think both outlaw and sub was kinda ass

on last boss

they didnt scale well with the haste buff

u couldnt break the shield

[royal lantern]

well now outlaw does

RIGHT????

[woven shore]

it works!

[dusty crescent]

so people are just hearthing out changing and running in

[reef oxide]

why does skardyn's sim so much better than transmitter on 5 targets?

[dusty crescent]

what a day

[dawn heath]

not hearth

they use the teleport

to tp right outside the duengon

[dusty crescent]

oh

[autumn silo]

does algari mana oil stay over death?

[high walrus]

yes

[autumn silo]

tysm

[royal lantern]

on really really high keys yes, always has been done

Hell, the DF S2/3/4 strat was "start the key with 4 dps 1 tank, first pull you go big and burst everything down with hero+cds and let the shadowpriest Vampiric Embrace keep you all alive, then the healer goes out and specs into his heal spec again"

fuck vampiric embrace btw

[dawn heath]

y u gotta gain time wherever you can

[royal lantern]

busted as shit ability

[past panther]

Azralon red flag

[dusty crescent]

i didn't play slands and df

[royal lantern]

really high level has always some degen stuff

[grim jay]

who tf uses a spear on second

[dawn heath]

i mean

[dusty crescent]

i always triple spear 3rd

[royal lantern]

the reason you cant swap equipment during combat?

During legion people swapped their legendarys on a pack-to-pack basis

[shy axle]

do you keep unbuffed garrotes up during trash or only if they are buffed?

[dusty crescent]

i never heard of spear on second

[royal lantern]

why tf would you use 3 spears on the 3rd boss, its overkill af

[dusty crescent]

i do remember this tho

[dusty crescent]

to kill it duh

[dawn heath]

in s3 you would run out of the duengon in waycrest manor equip a pvp trinket for the tree boss

so u could trinket out of the stun

because it was so overtuned

[royal lantern]

@grim jay allright, but gotta admit, i "only" did NW on 11, so idk if you need 3 spears on 12 or higher

and i will never do those keys anyway

[onyx musk]

lot of specs did this for last boss in AD

[dawn heath]

12 is not too bad i dont think for nw

i killed the third boss playing havoc dh

but 14

[royal lantern]

just have a mage with spymasters

[onyx musk]

^

[royal lantern]

not broken class or trinket btw

[dawn heath]

our mage played frost

💀

[royal lantern]

[onyx musk]

[royal lantern]

doesnt matter, just have spymaster full stacked

[dawn heath]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/iPvYRmqhTY9YPrE7C?invite=cr-MSxoYm0sMTcyMzI0NTA1LA

[spice surge]

Its mostly just the trinket tbh

[dapper cradle]

they should make an agi version of spymasters bro

[spice surge]

They had one in BFA

[dapper cradle]

call it Goonlord's Medallion or some shit

[spice surge]

It was bis throughout the tier after it as well

[dapper cradle]

[astral plover]

is any of the trinkets from TW Ulduar worth anything for us?

[spice surge]

Theyre gonna have to absolutely demolish that trinket after this tier to get people to swap to new ones

[shy axle]

how do you decide between deathstalker and fatebound st for the raid? according to the spreadsheet fatebound seems to be more potent, how is it in reality?

[dire sphinx]

god damn, i thought assasination rogues were supposed to be top dmg this season. I can't break 800k sustained... and these guys are pumping 3mil?

[royal lantern]

nobody plays fatebound

does that answer the question?

[soft shale]

remember you need 2 daggers to use mutilate

[dawn heath]

they are top tier damage dealers for overall dps but ST is still their "weakness"

[dusty crescent]

damn didn't one cycle with that high of dps

sheesh

[dawn heath]

after bufs its sort of ok

[dapper cradle]

nice burst from everyone

god that boss sucks though bro

[novel star]

idk sim it

[dusty crescent]

was that triple speared?

[novel star]

theyre pretty similar in damage

[woven shore]

im paying 20k gold rn

[novel star]

fatebound will be ahead with certain gear

[woven shore]

to do a +9 tol

im down bad

[novel star]

ds ahead with other gear

[shy axle]

not about me, its about the general opinion/play i am interested in

[novel star]

well it is about you

because they have different stat priorities

the % difference between ds and fb will not be the same on your character as someone elses

pick whatever you want

[shy axle]

good to know regarding stats, ty

[novel star]

generally DS is just better

but

if you suck at ds and fuck up ur mark it wont be

so unlucky

[dusty crescent]

do you know if they 3 or 2 speared?

[subtle tundra]

why is this guy gasping

so much

[dawn heath]

its when my blade dance resets

its a weakaura

[subtle tundra]

id fucking blow my brains out

literally

[novel star]

the gasp sound being dance reset is insane

ive only ever seen that gasp used for like

[nimble ether]

Amen hallelujah glory be to Jesus Christ

[novel star]

low hp

[subtle tundra]

its such an annoying sound effect

[novel star]

ye

[past forum]

It was in the Spiteful weakaura I used. I hated it but it made me truly aware

[dawn heath]

lmao

i dont mind gasp

[rotund oak]

u dont mind dh

gasp should be natural

[dawn heath]

KEK

[dusty crescent]

well fuck me i guess ...

[novel star]

havoc is fun!

kinda

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/bfuQS.gif

[novel star]

not as fun as peak

[dapper cradle]

hav c

[nimble ether]

I’m hate demong hunta

[dawn heath]

havoc hate is so standard

[rotund oak]

i cringed so hard i had a headacke

[dawn heath]

the death mark weakaura goes pretty hard tho the sound

[novel star]

ion get it

i mean

i get it for like old havoc

that shit was garbage

but

new havoc is more real

[nimble ether]

Tbh dh just never clicked for me

[novel star]

so feels weird

[rotund oak]

[novel star]

outdated opinions

[nimble ether]

Aesthetically one of the coolest classes doe

[rotund oak]

bro advocates dh in here

🗡️

[dawn heath]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/iQOqhuA1L7LXLzIvz?invite=cr-MSxQWFUsMTcyMzI0NTA1LA at 20s ~~ish here

this deathmark sound goes hard

[nimble ether]

The faint sound of nirvana playing lol

[novel star]

holy the weakaura hurts my brain for some reason

i hate default ui combo points

[dawn heath]

i really

love these combo points

xD

i really like it when using echoing reprimend

i found other cp weakauras to be harder to see the echoing cps

[novel star]

they look cool on feral

the blizz ui ones

better animation

[past panther]

the little dots are cute

[violet berry]

Does blindside reapply deathstalker or is it not considered ambushed stealth

[split willow]

What wa does the combo points in the clip?

[past panther]

@dawn heath sorry to necro but how do play prio stats for that? Just stack mastery and send the rest?

[cinder quartz]

checking murlok and archon i see most sins running tricks over blackjack

[soft shale]

does not apply it

[cinder quartz]

i would've imagined blackjack would be better for DR but

[soft shale]

if you dont use tricks when DM+KB

you might get a nasty surprise

[cinder quartz]

meh i have like 6 GCDs before i can even press it

[faint vessel]

and the DPS I tend to run with even in guild groups have bad aggro habits...tricks saves their lives more than anything

i run blackjack for higher keys with groups Im in comms with and we plan it

[rotund oak]

no it doesnt

its not from stealth

[dawn heath]

i'm just gearing for crit mastery on jewelry slots then u just use your highest item level slots with your 4piece

sadly i havent got my second crit mastery ring yet but i would use it if i had one

[dusk gull]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[past panther]

even for off specing sub and completely ditching out on the vers?

[pastel apex]

Just a noob question which is the rotation on single target with mplus spec? Did we use crimson twmpest on single target?

[past panther]

no ct on single

[pastel apex]

Thank u man

[dawn heath]

i dont do that

i cant play sub

havent tried

[past panther]

oh yeh that’s what i was asking about

[native seal]

has anyone been trying the harvester edict trink? been running it compared to transmitter and i feel like it's a really solid option if you can get the buff consistentlmy

[rotund oak]

u press FoK once if u arent spec'd into vicious venoms instead of mutitalte

to consume clear the witnesses buff

[fallen arch]

Its not great

[harsh anchor]

Harvester edict was goated before I got a better passive trinket

[fallen arch]

Theres just way better options

[sudden brook]

Rogue is sort of useless this tier so generally speaking, Imo it doesn't matter what spec is played

Sub will have more p1 and intermission damage while sin will have more p3 and overall boss damage since the p3 execute lust goes hard.

We also have a pretty high st comp (no double fury) so pushing the shield to start the platform phase shouldn't be as hard as it is for other guilds early on

[keen rover]

If blind doesnt effect the mob in mythic plus, will the damage reduction still apply?

[spice surge]

It does not

It needs to be blindable

[keen rover]

Heard that. Good to know ty

[rotund oak]

why didnt u say u streamed yday

im gonna swim all the way to ur place and kick ur @ss 😄

[coral ibex]

i wonder if they'll buff assa ST while allowing us to pump in m+

we just got buffed but we're nothing special

[sudden brook]

They literally just did the s reset

[gleaming geyser]

Sin is great in keys, what?

[vocal cradle]

What takes priority, staying under 50% energy or Envenom with 1 sec left?

[sudden brook]

Under 50

Only with sanguine blades talented tho

[sudden brook]

Uh cuz I don't announce it

[coral ibex]

that's what i said

[sudden brook]

I just stream at raid time

[coral ibex]

we pump m+ but we're pretty mid in ST

[gleaming geyser]

And Forever just reminded you we got buffed 2 days ago in ST

[acoustic roost]

Someone has to be mid

[gleaming geyser]

and AoE untouched/small buff

you're asking for another ST buff?

[coral ibex]

yes

[nova aspen]

id rather be mid than top tier

[proven jasper]

Buff sub instead

[reef oxide]

idk i think our ST is solid after the buffs

[vocal cradle]

But I thought that talent requires you to be above 50% energy..

[reef oxide]

we just arent broken

[rose arch]

is the wax still worth running? or just double whetstones?

[reef oxide]

yeah if you look at wcl, we are 3rd on damage to bosses

4th *

[sudden brook]

Basically sins damage outside of cooldowns is bad, so getting sanguine blades to proc outside of Cd's is worse than just forcing more dn procs from the hero talent

[rotund oak]

good u streamed the one day i didnt open my twitch

im watching all the vid,u smacked 1st boss

bigdam

[vocal cradle]

So the idea is to keep yourself sub 50 until your CDs are coming back around to make sure you have the proc for your burst window.

[royal lantern]

during deathmark you will be naturaly above 50% energy

[reef oxide]

yeah you dont have to think abut it

[royal lantern]

and deathmark also duplicates your bleeds, which means more SB dmg

[reef oxide]

you just make sure you have envenom up before sending your cds

thats literally all you need to do to prepare

[bitter monolith]

why is double radiant power simming higher than double depths in single target for me https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3wzQ3Y8JjbEuZUH6UjbpJr

[sturdy merlin]

Thanks a lot, have fun progging queen

[little smelt]

you mean above 50%, right?

[cobalt sphinx]

under

[proper hare]

gonna do a lil hc clear soon, is it wort going splatter on any boss minus brood and council? just a blast quick run

[spice surge]

No, he means under

[cobalt sphinx]

you go spatter on everything but sikran and nexus

i guess you can't parse on rash so you can go ib on rash for the parse

[little smelt]

i dont get it, wh yunder?

[royal lantern]

he literally explained that

lol

[cobalt sphinx]

outside of cooldowns you are supposed to actively avoid sanguine blades

[little smelt]

ok, ill give it a try - thanks mike

but i still dont get why. Isnt Sanguine supposed to buff dmg?

[royal lantern]

sanguine burns energy for more bleed dmg

bleeds do no dmg outside of cds

[cobalt sphinx]

to my knowledge, it's an aoe talent that reduces your damage on single target

so it's great value on aoe and it's part of the dungeon build

[royal lantern]

and our hero tree wants you to actually use finishers more often

[arctic socket]

For single target you also don’t really ever take sanguine blades

[royal lantern]

watch me

[arctic socket]

Unless your coin meme

[vocal cradle]

Any of y'all get sent in the "attack group" for bloodbound as assa?

[royal lantern]

wdym with that

[arctic socket]

What do you mean by that

[royal lantern]

going for the far away add?

[vocal cradle]

Yeah

[arctic socket]

I would tell them naw

[royal lantern]

not really? thats more a warlock/mage/hunter thing

[sudden brook]

Ty. I might end up swapping back to sub if the p1 shield and platform shields end up being a big problem, but with getting the Broodtwister ring from vault, and also sin getting a 5% buff I want to see if with our comp we can make it work since the p3 damage should be massive for the spec.

[arctic socket]

Just tunnel boss and let caustic pump

[cobalt sphinx]

we just swiched and killed it last

[royal lantern]

oh wait, guy you are on queen?

[sudden brook]

Yeh

[royal lantern]

GL man

[sudden brook]

We're gaming this tier

[vocal cradle]

If it's on the other side of the room will caustic still hit it?

[arctic socket]

No

You let the range handle that add

[frigid pilot]

outlaw in shambles

[royal lantern]

cuastic doesnt hit the add anyway

[frigid pilot]

sin taking over keys

[royal lantern]

like

you need to hit them

you cant afk the boss lol

[arctic socket]

I mean

[royal lantern]

(or you can if its ok in your raid and ok for the RL)

[sudden brook]

I mean low key queen is an outlaw fight

[arctic socket]

Fok and splatter does fine

[sudden brook]

But ppl aren't ready for that convo

[kind forge]

Lok is i guess

[sudden brook]

Rogue doesn't do anything useful on the fight so why not just play the spec that on paper does the most overall

Questions dagger playing noobs are afraid to answer

[arctic socket]

You give them a damage reduction buff

[spice spire]

Real

[marble hemlock]

giving me ptsd here sir, back to "Nzoth was an outlaw fight"

[sudden brook]

It was

[spice spire]

I think all 3 work based on what your guild needs

[marble hemlock]

[royal lantern]

nah, my answer is "i dont like TWW outlaw gameplay"

[spice spire]

Tell them guy ‼️

[royal lantern]

and you know

im on 1 day broodtwister prog

when i reach queen, she got nerfed 20x and we are at 200% more dmg and healing done from the buff

[worldly sail]

i played outlul on broodtwister for 2 nights

then went sin and instantly did so much better

[soft shale]

yea we have 2 days of broodtwister

[arctic socket]

Did your group hit a lil Minnie wall on second boss because of the little adds?

[soft shale]

as sub i was doing more dmg but when we got to actually 2:30

and i dm and kb while adds are up

BRRRRRRRR

[royal lantern]

my role in the fight is "the yellow bar you all should not be under"

[little smelt]

what is sin?

[arctic socket]

Sim with a n

[rotund oak]

😂

[worldly sail]

sin yoself

[spice spire]

What @marble hemlock does every day

[worldly sail]

raidbots is telling me to play tiny toxic blade

[royal lantern]

you can play with my tiny toxic blade

[marble hemlock]

UwU

[rotund oak]

ur raidbots is drunk

[worldly sail]

[spice spire]

Every day we stray further from god’s light

[marble hemlock]

Is that the name you gave your ass, cause I'm straying further from that every day too and it aint a good thing

[spice spire]

[rotund oak]

that was wicked

[arctic socket]

I wasn’t expecting that

[harsh anchor]

Anyone else blushing

[coral ibex]

[spice spire]

Honestly

This is mild

[arctic socket]

Can’t get spicy in the rogue discord

Them DMs tho

Dam

[spice spire]

Wdym

[worldly sail]

deathmarks

[spice spire]

That’s mild for here

It’s also all about the dns bud

Not the dms

[spring prawn]

soo. crimson tempest 1st boss mythic yay or nay

everyone doing someth else in top logs

[swift sage]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[spring prawn]

and i personally feel like its a waste

[spice spire]

Do you have dks or warriors

[spring prawn]

okay thanks :)

[knotty fjord]

is it better to get cursed haste in both rings?

[spice spire]

If so the answer is no Ct

[hearty reef]

[spice spire]

Differs for every person, best to sim yourself and see which is best

[hearty reef]

we handng these?

[spice spire]

Leak the name

[hearty reef]

honor among thieves

[spice spire]

Damn

Respect it

[worldly sail]

wtf the blaster diploma thingy is out of beta?

[soft shale]

yea we give them for secret in the dalaran sewers auctions

[normal mist]

shhhhhhhhhhh

[hearty reef]

bro is putting it in Q simulator notes

[languid ferry]

for the people that progged Mythic broodtwister, dud u play sacbrood or spyglass, I can't decide.

[hearty reef]

so much for a secret

[covert jewel]

neither

[languid ferry]

crystal?

[fallen arch]

Mustt be nice having access to all the best trinkets in the game

[harsh anchor]

Purple rock and telescope

[copper monolith]

if you guys are making a 9+ key, do you look at someones IO and invite? Or do you go look up logs?

[worldly sail]

i never look at logs

[fallen arch]

What are logs gonna tell you

About someones ability

To time a 9 with you

[harsh anchor]

I just pick people who have at least done 1 level below what I post

[spice spire]

I look at nothing

Just vibes

If we don’t time it what’s the worst that’ll happen

[oblique olive]

what

is bubbling wax

[autumn remnant]

a wax thats bubbling

[fallen arch]

I look at a PI slave, a shout, a skyfiury and mystic touch

[harsh anchor]

Rat goop you put on your dagger

[fallen arch]

[worldly sail]

im watching a kyveza kill video and this chad sin is using bubbling wax

[calm grail]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[spice spire]

The world will not end if I mistime this key

[daring glen]

how many sparks do people have rn?

[worldly sail]

ravenholdt might remove your blaster diploma

[dawn heath]

caustic doesnt hit off the boss on 2nd boss right gotta swap to adds?

[fallen arch]

How to earn a blaster diploma

[spice spire]

Blaster? I hardly know er!

[spice spire]

2, used 2

So 4

[spice spire]

8y from center mass

So no

[harsh anchor]

And a half? Right

[spice spire]

Nah only 4 could be missing one

[daring glen]

im missing one half

[spice spire]

Splinter*

[harsh anchor]

Huh, guess I gotta do my weekly pinnacle chest stuff

[fallen arch]

4 I think ye

But now I think of it I didnt get mine this week

[main pumice]

Hey guys, I just did 3 sims.
1 with ara'kara 623 ilvl and sikran's endless arsenal 619 ilvl
1 with ara'kara 623 ilvl and treacherous transmitter 619 ilvl
1 with treacherous transmitter 619 ilvl and sikran's endless arsenal 619 ilvl

According to the dungeon slice sim, the best combination is treacherous transmitter 619 ilvl and sikran's endless arsenal 619 ilvl, is it really best with 2 on use trinkets?

[cobalt sphinx]

sounds like it

but

[harsh anchor]

Obey the robot with no question

[neat smelt]

sim it

[cobalt sphinx]

it is gonna be really painful and i don't think anyone would willingly submit themselves to that torture

[main pumice]

I have done that so far, it isn't bad, I just got the sacbrood and thought it would be an upgrade so I upgraded it, but it wasn't

[arctic socket]

Mandate and grave

[main pumice]

kinda awkward

[keen spruce]

[harsh anchor]

Still good to have in case you feel lazy in a key

[main pumice]

True

[sonic fossil]

Yo guys what's the best way to sim assa for ST and M+ ?

[cobalt sphinx]

pretty sure haste is bad in dslice

[gleaming geyser]

Its assuming you use the two trinket's on-use correctly and you cant guarantee the pace of the pulls will guarantee that

[cobalt sphinx]

too

[main pumice]

so u recommend against using 2x on use?

[gleaming geyser]

if the difference is minimal, id stick to one on use. Its easier to send with DM

[main pumice]

Yeah it is like 1,775M vs 1,770M

[spice spire]

It’s a model

[harsh anchor]

I miss the arsenal from SL

[spice spire]

It’s not the end all be all

But it’s a good indication

Use it as such

[arctic socket]

Farm out a crystal

[spring sigil]

Hm, simming Void reaper contract 616 better than sacbrood 616 😮

Ahh, void reaper only sims better for mythic+

ofc

[dusty crescent]

that's a good man

[stable flint]

how can i sim bubble wax as weapon buff?

[arctic socket]

If you don’t wanna buy whetstones just use it

Don’t sim

Just know

It’s goated

[stable flint]

xD want a comparison between whetstone and bubble wax

[spice spire]

So is ur pops

[spice spire]

Whetstone better.
At most it’s 1k

[stable flint]

and why do i have sub role and not assa -.-

[arctic socket]

He blow it out for you?

[arctic socket]

Ur a sub

Duh

[spice spire]

Nah I dicked him tf down

Get woke pal

[stable flint]

im not a sub :C im assa all the way :C

[arctic socket]

Trust, you would be getting dicked down

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-skeleton-gif-26105518

[spice spire]

Buddy I deadlift 6 wheels.
Ur pops would be meowing for me

[rotund oak]

irrelevant but logs private aight?(least on mythic,cant see anything)

[arctic socket]

Bro you’re built like a twig

George has more bulk

[spring moat]

Crafted neck any good ? Recrafted bracers to get proper embellishment. Also made crest thinking I needed it to keep the ilvl high. Now I got an extra enchanted crest

[dusty crescent]

there's bears who bottom...

[spice spire]

That’s absolutely false

I wish I were a twig

[spice spire]

True

But I’m not him

[arctic socket]

Quake is definitely a bottom

[spice spire]

Buddy you’re projecting

[harsh anchor]

[arctic socket]

There’s a difference in me being a bottom, compared to you

[spice spire]

Bears bottom battle star galactica?

[sudden brook]

Yes

[spice spire]

Yeah the difference is, yours is reality. Mine is just ur head canon

Get woke pal

[arctic socket]

Stop lying and gas lighting me

Just call yourself a bottom n be done

[stable flint]

uhh im an assa boi now :D

[spice spire]

I’m being gaslit so hard rn tf

Hell yeah brother welcome

[dusty crescent]

when I snap my fingers both @spice spire and @arctic socket will forget they were ever bottoms..

[arctic socket]

Sub is about To become how arms warrior is

[spice spire]

Extremely based?

[arctic socket]

Not a spec

Bad dps

No hoes

[spring sigil]

Dh just got the rare weapon from Princess and is begging me for trinket to complete the set lol

[dusty crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/snap-gif-23819914

[spring sigil]

is not taking no for an answer

[spice spire]

Okay and

[rotund oak]

my magic ball says sub is gonna be rly good after anniversary stuff

[spring sigil]

Going to go disenchant it in a sec if he doesn't stop whispering me xD

[arctic socket]

So real for that

[spice spire]

Yeah show, TO wtf

[arctic socket]

Sell it to him for 700k

[spring sigil]

He's said 100k max

[arctic socket]

Vendor it

[arctic socket]

Alright

See

[spice spire]

Meet in the middle

400k

[kind forge]

just give it to him tf

[proven jasper]

Equip it and then sell it

[kind forge]

dont be so mean

[runic hinge]

Good morning that’s the first thing I’ve sent today

[past panther]

power bottoms be like

[arctic socket]

@spice spire

[spice spire]

GM king

[past panther]

waow

[spice spire]

Dog what is this drawing

[winged sun]

That drawing is trash dawg

[spice spire]

Lil bro actually had 2 year old cousin draw it

[winged sun]

[spice spire]

What I’m saying zeross

[past panther]

picasso

[spice spire]

Tell her

[torpid lion]

Man why rogue gotta have the gayest chat rooms

Not that it's a bad thing

[grand quest]

is this a bad time so ask why we lose stealth in mist labrynth

[spice spire]

It’s an old old bug

[runic hinge]

wait a second before running in

[past panther]

we stab ppl with small things for almost our entire class

[spice spire]

If you’re the first through

[runic hinge]

just hang back

[grand quest]

based ok

[spice spire]

You’ll get unstealthed

[grand quest]

nice cock though

[spice spire]

Ye just do what Tony said

Ty

[dusty crescent]

I wanna armwrestle Pepsi

[spice spire]

Appreciate that king

You’d probably fuck me up

My form is dogshit

[dusty crescent]

but parse better

it'll convert to irl

but you*

[gleaming geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/punya-gw-gif-21591247

[vernal snow]

Whats the difference between those 2 builds? I got the first one for m+ from wowhead and the 2nd one I just saw when I clicked on Speeds Raiderio profile?

[runic hinge]

second one is the raid build

[spice spire]

Yeah

[vernal snow]

Okay thanks a lot, sorry I am new to assa. Switched from Sub after years for the first time xD And I have no clue rn

[runic hinge]

Well one of the raid builds anyways

[vernal snow]

So the first one is perfectly fine for m+?

[dusty crescent]

I have a sneaking suspicion priest discord would be the gayest ngl

rogues pretty tame

[spice spire]

wait

[runic hinge]

yes that is the recommended i think

[vernal snow]

@runic hinge thx mate

[arctic socket]

3 second Snapchat speed drawing

[short basin]

For single target, when do u garrote in the opener if not talanted in shrouded suffocation?

[quiet oar]

wtf quake

[short basin]

for DS

[spice spire]

Okay boomer

[spice spire]

Okay tell me I’m wrong

[woven shore]

[pseudo elm]

you dont need another runed crest when you recraft?

[cunning panther]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

As soon as possible - if you have imo garrote it’s usually second global

[quiet oar]

You are wrong in this one

[spice spire]

No sir

[short basin]

ty 🙂

[onyx crane]

I need help improving my rogue

[violet berry]

Double dawn thread the move?

[spice spire]

How do you need help

[spice spire]

If you’re doing m+ primarily yeah.

Also if you have a baller weapon already

It’s not bad in raid either

[winged sun]

[violet berry]

Ok cool thanks

[spice spire]

[onyx crane]

idk where I need help with

but my performance is utter crap

[winged sun]

Oo its more dps?

[spice spire]

In m+ yeah

[thorn fjord]

[winged sun]

Its the vers one right

[waxen oyster]

Not sure what you expect other people to know of “my dps is bad”

[spice spire]

Ascension takes a while to ramp up

[spice spire]

Crit

[winged sun]

O ok

[spice spire]

Don’t think vers is particularly bad though

Just think crit is “better”

[waxen oyster]

i have like

[winged sun]

Im thinking on what to do with my vault

[waxen oyster]

almost 9.5k of all 4 rn

[spice spire]

But Ik you multi spec

[waxen oyster]

accidental balance

[winged sun]

Im going all in for assa this season ngl

[waxen oyster]

[spice spire]

The chosen one

[winged sun]

Its too strong to ignore

[proven jasper]

What you dont wanna play sub in keys? its sooooo good

[spice spire]

Yeah ascension is good it’s just.
It’s ramp time you don’t really get in keys outside of boss dam

[waxen oyster]

sub in keys

rather play tank

[winged sun]

Sub

[proven jasper]

[royal lantern]

vers is bad until people see their favorite streamers do a +93 key and then it instantly turns into "omg vers is the most important stat"

[onyx crane]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/tarren-mill/bettyboombox#difficulty=4 well here are my abysmall logs

[royal lantern]

every.single.time

[winged sun]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[quaint knoll]

If I've crafted dagger to 636, what would the next optimal slot be? I know simming could determine this, too, but is there adefinite slot we should be choosing?

[onyx crane]

since idk how to read graphs idk what to do with it

[spice spire]

@silk bane @normal mist or @marble hemlock

Just need a thread

I got you big dog

[quaint knoll]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[quiet oar]

!log @spice spire

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[quiet oar]

Why does this work in Outlaw

[spice spire]

Yeah it doesn’t do that here

That’s why I have to always do this

[quiet oar]

I think it works in Sin too

[spice spire]

No

[quiet oar]

Sub

i mean

[spice spire]

We had it hardcoded apparently

[quiet oar]

Brainlag

[spice spire]

Yeah it works everywhere but here

[quiet oar]

Cant they

Hardcode you

into it

[onyx crane]

even on bosses where I seem to do decent on wow analyzer I seem to do crummy dps

[marble hemlock]

Khululy Log Review

@spice spire

[spice spire]

Ty

[quiet oar]

Seli the Parry goat

[tired gull]

🐐

[noble light]

Hey 🙂 quick question (I'm too dumb to sim it)... I've crafted a dagger with ascension and want to craft a cloak now. Do I embellish Dawnthread or Darkness?

[runic hinge]

uhh, you want the patch

[tired gull]

writhing if you're going with ascension

[waxen oyster]

Too dumb to open raidbots

[noble light]

yea that's what i meant by "darkness"

[waxen oyster]

[noble light]

thanks

[tired gull]

ahhh "embrace the darkness"

[daring glen]

anyone know why i might be missing one fractured spark

[noble light]

Didn't sim a lot so far and couldn't find a way to sim enchants. mb...

[tall jay]

Boys, I finally hit the 1mil club!!

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/d8jmKsp3FazHh2f4YtG3Ep

[royal lantern]

didnt do the weekly?

if you missed a spark, they drop randomly from dungeons/raidbosses/delves anyway

so you cant really "miss" them or fall behind or smth like that

[daring glen]

ye but how low is the chance

[royal lantern]

not really low?

[daring glen]

i did like 2 weeklys and multiple dungeons and whole heroic raid

[royal lantern]

1-2 dungeons and it should drop

then you are not behind?

we are at the 4th crafted item with this week

[daring glen]

ye im missing one

spark half for 4th craft

[balmy condor]

Yeah so do the weekly then

[quaint knoll]

Do we really need to craft 4 items

[balmy condor]

No

You need to craft 2 for embellishments

Rest is whatever

[quaint knoll]

And has there been any updates on the dawnthread vs ascension etc?

[balmy condor]

No

[quaint knoll]

I see a lot of people doing dawnthread, but I went ascension. Maybe wrong choice

[balmy condor]

Dawnthread are m+ Andy’s

[quaint knoll]

Ah that makes sense

[balmy condor]

But ascension/Dawnthread are both like 1% each

So worst case is ascension sucks in m+ or Dawnthread sucks in raid

[arctic socket]

We have four sparks

Use both

[balmy condor]

And you lose 0.3 or whatever

[quaint knoll]

Yeah good point - so it's minimal

[balmy condor]

I ain’t wasting crests making a second set of embellishments

[quaint knoll]

I have dagger and bracvers atm, but I got some good bracers from Brood, so might craft onto something else

[arctic socket]

Pussy

[lone lava]

What is this witchcraft?

[prime hull]

Is crafting a 636 head a bad idea longterm even though it is my biggest upgrade right now? (beats 636 wrist craft by 0.3%)

[lone lava]

Its a Heroic Court log btw^

[balmy condor]

Looks like many crackers

Well

Crankers

[arctic socket]

Can you turn crafted gear into tier @balmy condor

[split grail]

Is Mad Queens BiS now. I see it's listed as S-Tier on WoWhead but WoWhead also has lower tier trinks listed as bis

[balmy condor]

But oh well

[arctic socket]

Woah

[balmy condor]

No

[arctic socket]

Don’t use that word

[balmy condor]

In single target alongside skardyns/transmitter yes

[balmy condor]

It’s okay, I’m a saltine

[arctic socket]

Lmao

[split grail]

Ugh...transmitter. How much of a pain is it to use?

[molten echo]

Prob a bad idea since you want sethead

[arctic socket]

Use grace

[balmy condor]

None of you just get a skardyns

[arctic socket]

Or farm time walker

[prime hull]

I could craft a 636 chest as well (beats wrist by 0.2%).

[arctic socket]

That one trinket kinda biiig

[arctic socket]

If you’re going to craft a piece chest is the most optimal

[prime hull]

Or maybe I should craft 619 wrist and then use mythic crests on upgrading my mythic tier.

Hmm.

[split grail]

Wrist are on the optimal crafting list

unless that has changed

[spice spire]

This is way too much thought for gear im ngl

[prime hull]

Haha you are probably right I'll just spark craft my wrists as the best longterm option.

[hollow talon]

What's the time walking trinket?

[coral ibex]

wrathstone?

[balmy condor]

If you have myth track tier gg

[prime hull]

I found a piece in my m+ vault yeah.

[hollow talon]

What track is the wrath stone thing

[coral ibex]

it can drop hero from your box

[hollow talon]

Oooh

[molten echo]

Heroic as best

[hollow talon]

I did not get that in my box

[coral ibex]

this is also a pog one to get hero track

unless they completely gutted the proc rate, it had very good uptime in original wotlk and classic

[distant plinth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[young dust]

maybe it's queens mandate when the boss receives more %dmg?

[lone lava]

Nah, i think its just a bugged log

[subtle cipher]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[young dust]

my queens mandate did 47m on 3 casts, sadly i couldnt get the final cast off, fight was over

[lone lava]

You see the report cuts out at 3:24-3:41

Must have something to do with it

[young dust]

That boss is bugged as hell, there was an intermission where anub'arash didnt even cast spikes for us

[spice spire]

8 kb casts and 5 dm casts in 5:57

Don’t think that’s a valid log

I’m no whale biologist tho

[young dust]

i think it's counting his overall damage for a shorter fight

shorter I mean its bugged

[snow kindle]

is sin better now on silken or is sub still out performing

[bronze pike]

🐋

[reef oxide]

I'm almost certain sin is better than sub now

I think silken is the only boss that sub has a niche where it's possibly better

[wooden perch]

when do you guys use Cloak on kyveza mythic?

intermission or when u get mech?

[normal mist]

y

any of them

atleast in hc

i just wanna help out healers

[wooden perch]

mythic

[normal mist]

oops

not my territory

[subtle tundra]

last 6 seconds on intermission

[neat smelt]

usually people cloak on the last blades of intermission and stand still to help others

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/agre-cat-nod-gif-22214510

[vapid geode]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[dawn heath]

pog

[pastel cradle]

sheesh

[dawn heath]

hm

do i sent my gilded to upgrade offhand or complete legs

🤔

[rose dirge]

swapped assa now from sub

reclearing mythic now, wondering does caustic spatter reach adds on 2nd boss*

[dawn heath]

nope

u need to apply it to the biggest add

and splash off of it

the one that moves

[dense talon]

Do spears stack on stitchfless boss?

[rose dirge]

alright thanks

yes they stack

[dawn heath]

either save vanish or pool a charge of darkest night

[rose dirge]

3x spear on him

[dawn heath]

so u can get the mark on them

[rose dirge]

alright thanks

[molten echo]

People keep saying offhand is lowest value out of all slots to upgrade, so i guess legs?

[sly blade]

Is it better to craft a 636 or upgrade the myth gear with the crests?

[rose dirge]

well you want to have crafted dagger offhand and mythic dagger main

[molten echo]

With crafted dagger you can upgrade mythic dagger to 636 with 0 crests, just valorstones

Which is nice

[rose dirge]

yeah with recraft bug you save 60 crests

[arctic socket]

Do your Leg offhand is meme

[spice spire]

You have offhand legs?

Damn dog

FUCK

[mild wren]

Hello guys I'm new to rogue

[spice spire]

Hi

[slim pebble]

Hello

[dawn heath]

i sent one upgrade on it

[mild wren]

Was trying to find keybinds I could copy

[dawn heath]

have to justify using the myth track one over the heroic track one

back to legs then

[spice spire]

Oh no not the keybinds

I’m out

[mild wren]

Hahahaha

[spice spire]

(Mine are cursed)

[arctic socket]

Copy whispers

[spice spire]

P is for brez

[slim pebble]

I’m terrified to see some of your guys keybinds

[dawn heath]

keybinds is just personal preference its rare scenarios that you have "bad" keybinds

unlesss u keybind like CTRL Y or some shit to your spam buttons

[mild wren]

I just think maybe someone who plays the class have a more optimized keybind than what I would make

Would be cool if I could get someone's keybinds

That also does pvp

[molten echo]

Just bind all buttons that are convenient for you to press, then it’s just practice

[dusty crescent]

1-5 shift 1-5 ctrl 1-5 mouse up and mouse down f g s v r

those are mine

my mouse are the modifiers

[mild wren]

What do you use for shift and control?

[molten echo]

Not using QE for abilities? Wat dis

[dusty crescent]

my left side mouse buttons

[dusty crescent]

deadass forgot q and e

[mild wren]

I use kick on Q

[dusty crescent]

i use those too

oh shit T as well

[spice spire]

Very based decision

[dusty crescent]

I use kick on T

[slim pebble]

Kick is my middle mouse button

[dusty crescent]

as in tell them to shut up

[molten echo]

Kick mouse4 gang

[dusty crescent]

shift 5 for kick

[spice spire]

Q. E. R T F G H X C V P

[dusty crescent]

this guy is a demon

[spice spire]

1-=

[celest helm]

Coke zero dookies on diet pepsi

[slim pebble]

Hell yeah floor pov

[thorn fjord]

@spice spire i wanna know what love is

[spice spire]

[spice spire]

Buddy I can show u

[runic hinge]

I WANT YOU TO SHOW ME

[mild wren]

Why does it show kick on 5 and on the lower action bar is on shift 5

[spice spire]

Hello florida man

[dawn heath]

we wiped on sikran

pug group

[tough widget]

is whetstone on offhand actually doing something, or am i wasting money?

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-22164679

[spice spire]

Yes it is adding damage

[molten echo]

I’d guess mouseover macro maybe

[dawn heath]

focus kick

[slim pebble]

It going from 1 to E to 2 is really messing with my brain 😂

[dawn heath]

i also have a shadowstep kick macro

[mild wren]

I don't even know what that is haha

[dawn heath]

you have a macro to set focus on a mob

[mild wren]

And I don't know what macros are xdd

[dawn heath]

then u kick that mob when u hit the macro

[spice spire]

Ahh

[mild wren]

I also had a question, how do I make my action bar 1 stop changing when I stealth

And have a different action bar for stealth

[coral ibex]

what addon shows the character panel like this?

[mild wren]

Or how do u guys have it?

[dawn heath]

yeah some people dont like how there is no structure to it but to me it doesnt matter

[ruby coyote]

Does haste increase the amount of bleed ticks in the same duration?

[dawn heath]

i reworked the ui so i've put the buttons that matter in the center and they just happend to be on these keybinds

its sort of like weakauras

but i've made it with blizzard ui

[dawn heath]

shift 5 is focus kick

[obsidian walrus]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[molten echo]

Could just place the same abilities on the stealthbar and call it a day

[proven jasper]

Stealth goes on R guys wtf

For restealth 😉

[jaunty hill]

Is Queen Ring skaling with our abilities?

[thorn fjord]

stealth is alt 1 for me

[spice spire]

I don’t have stealth bound

[west cove]

are eople crafting daggers? and if so which one/emebellishment?

[proven jasper]

Chad

[lunar pond]

R is for slice and dice

[dawn heath]

that is crazy

[spice spire]

No interaction between our abilities

[spice spire]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[thorn fjord]

Why lol

[dawn heath]

alt binds 🤢

[lunar pond]

S for stealth

[thorn fjord]

I use alt ctrl and shift binds

[spice spire]

What’s worse alt binds or 9 for kidney?

[dawn heath]

ye me too but

[spice spire]

Pick ur poison

[dawn heath]

alt binds is for like

placing world markers down

[dawn heath]

not for combat

[pliant remnant]

damn they really killed caustic