assassination

[woven shore]

Dw i always keep an eye on that

Love to rap low hp enemys 😍

[wise gull]

what’s your usual key damage?

[woven shore]

Uuff

Yesterday i did a +9 tol with dk and a fire
I was at 1,1m ?

[grim jay]

Thats not worth

[wise gull]

ilvl?

[woven shore]

Everything died really fucking fast

Me 617

Dk mage 625 624

[past panther]

gm all

[woven shore]

Wym

[proper ridge]

hey hello guys im new here! id like to ask if someone can help me to setup plater buff and debuff tracker for Rogue Assa in TWW

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[woven shore]

Bro but how

[royal lantern]

cev and whisps are both plater profile with focus on rogue

[grim jay]

Rupturing low HP targets is a waste

[woven shore]

If i fok and rapture all time when do i use envenom

[kind forge]

press fok and rupture

[grim jay]

In the remaining 20s

[midnight atlas]

not if you starve of energy and you need quick, then you can rupture snipe a target and get full energy when it dies

[woven shore]

The enemys barely life 20seconds

XD

Live*

[grim jay]

Yeah because all the CP and the rupture didnt cost any energy

[grim jay]

Then rupture shouldnt really run out anyways

[woven shore]

Thats what i mean

[woven shore]

Well there are some pulls where there are like 10-12 enemys

I always try to keep ct up

[wise gull]

I think you’re probably focusing too hard on spreading bleeds outside your opener instead of using CDs and letting spatter blast

[woven shore]

And st with splatter on prio target

Fok rap fok rap fok rap fok rap fok rap then muti again sounds like spending 10seconds doing no dmg

[neat raptor]

What is best max hero rank Spyglass or Sacbrood

[wise gull]

Yeah don’t do that unless you can’t restealth

[royal lantern]

more or less the same

[woven shore]

I really need to get a mouse over macro for bleeds

Anyone has one

[wise gull]

not really necessary at all

[spring sigil]

Niceeee just timed a +11 dawnbreaker

[woven shore]

I almost always rap gar the same Enemy

I feel dumb doing that

Bc its wasting 1 gar and rap overall

[wise gull]

most packs you can literally never change targets

[woven shore]

Well its min maxing isnt it

[wise gull]

if you’re only doing 1.1m you should focus on bigger issues than minmax

[grim jay]

Well thats some feelycraft there. We kinda do what we are supposed to and not what sounds like dealing dmg

[woven shore]

Yea

Hm okay

Well i remember spreading rap back then in sl on assa

Idk man

[hasty crypt]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[grim jay]

???

[woven shore]

I feel like im doing stupid low amount of dmg

[grim jay]

Did you just advise to not redot

[grim jay]

I mean its kinda low

[kind forge]

so much yapping

[grim jay]

But cant really compare

[blazing pumice]

#showtooltip rupture
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][]rupture

[wise gull]

no, he was saying packs died within 20s so i’m just talking about opening

[woven shore]

Tx

[grim jay]

Yeah but the fok rup fok rup stuff he said was for redotting

[woven shore]

I'll check if i can record something

[grim jay]

Opening is pretty easy

Especially with the graphic on wowhead

[wise gull]

he also said he liked to rupture mobs as they were about to die

[grim jay]

Oh ye if you meant that, its not worth ye

[wise gull]

ya if it’s long packs absolutely

[blazing pumice]

i did 2.2 mil in mists 10 today, ama

no aug

[wise gull]

way better than me that’s for sure

[woven shore]

I think wowhead says

Amb
Garrot
Garrot
Rap
Rap (if you have spike)
er
Fok Ct fok mutilate envenom

And then cd's

Maybe im wrong

Sounds like back to dummy

[wise gull]

1 garrotte before rupture if ambushing

need a mut too

spatter

[woven shore]

In raid i do better than 94% of people but on m+ im fucking up

Bruh

[white holly]

missing crimson tempest in that

[wise gull]

Ct is tempest

[grim jay]

And mutilate is mut

[wise gull]

Look i’m drunk

[woven shore]

[quiet oar]

And Davyn is QTpie

[woven shore]

Fuging rocks players

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-no-u-no-you-reverse-uno-uno-gif-22508660

[woven shore]

[molten echo]

If ambushing it’s more like amb - garrotte - rup - rup - garrotte to start

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaaaa-gif-18979345

[spice spire]

I’m sure Davyn is better looking

[wise gull]

yee

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/imaqtpie-nice-gif-11074128

[woven shore]

Btw

[gusty mirage]

Hey big fan, how do I remember to ambush when playing poopstalker. Thanks in advance bud

[wise gull]

every pack is dif but you get a feel for it

[white holly]

oh shit my bad im just casting CT before ER

[woven shore]

Wowhead guide SAYS if you dont have improved garrote

[spice spire]

Just press ambush

[woven shore]

On st opener

[spice spire]

[normal mist]

I love that right after I garrote the target I start rapping

[white holly]

like garrote into double rup into garrote if needed into tempest

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

[wise gull]

I didn’t read mut in there so

[woven shore]

Do i use Vanish to cast ambush?

[spice spire]

Took me a bit ngl

[quiet oar]

I took me like 2 weeks

[spice spire]

If you drop mark

[wise gull]

Only if you drop mark

[spice spire]

Otherwise

[quiet oar]

to get the habit out of me

[spice spire]

You just don’t vanish

[gusty mirage]

Ngl this hero tree feels like shit to play

[woven shore]

Even on 6+ enems
So

Amb
Gar
Rap
Rap gar?

[wise gull]

Yes

[quiet oar]

But the juicy big crits of Envenom

[woven shore]

So what is vanish for

[quiet oar]

big dopamine

[grim jay]

I dont know a Mark, should I drop a random Mark?

[gusty mirage]

I’m level 72 bro I ain’t big critting shit

[woven shore]

What is vanish for BUT for reapplying mark

[normal mist]

The joke was that you wrote rap instead of rupt

[wise gull]

But if you have mark it’s gar x2 rup x2

[woven shore]

If not impr gar

[spice spire]

If you drop mark wdym

[grim jay]

Unpopular opinion and welcome back

[spice spire]

Nothing

[normal mist]

It's not rapture but rupture

[woven shore]

Lmfaaooo

[white holly]

imp garrote during deathmark or if u drop mark

[quiet oar]

All your Crits are big to me

[spice spire]

Aff lock speaking

[gusty mirage]

I’m playing on the 1 day free game time idk if welcome back is in order

[wise gull]

vanish is for when your tank is chain pulling at the worst times

[grim jay]

No matter how you see it, you got tempted to play

[spice spire]

Nah return of the king

[grim jay]

Even if temporary

[woven shore]

So basically you are telling me that ive been using vanish during raid for nothing

[wise gull]

oxis back

[spice spire]

Blackvneck when

[woven shore]

I used it to reapply garrot xD

Im so dumb wtf

[gusty mirage]

Wdym he’s in my warband

[woven shore]

Wtf

[spice spire]

If you don’t have imp garrote? Yes

[woven shore]

Kill me rn

[wise gull]

if you’re running imp garrotte you should be vanishing

[woven shore]

Fuck my life

[quiet oar]

Well its not a big loss right?

to use vanish

[spring sigil]

For making a 636 crafting order dagger, which dagger do i want (or does it not matter)?

[woven shore]

For example in silken court

[pallid fiber]

the agi one ig

[woven shore]

When the bug has the mark but i vanish amb on the spider

[crisp stream]

The opener rotation totally depends on how many mobs we are dealing with right?
Sometimes amb-gar-rup
Sometimes amb- gar- gar - rup
At times gar - gar- rup - rup
All depends on the pack being pulled right?

[woven shore]

The spider has it?

[spice spire]

Yeah

[grim jay]

Fake, you said you are lv 72

[quiet oar]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

Check wowarmory bitch

That screenshot is from when I first logged in

[spring sigil]

Siphoning Stiletto i assume

[woven shore]

Well im so bad

[spice spire]

How about you check dn (darkest night)

[kind forge]

oxi is back ?

[white holly]

no

[woven shore]

I want to Kiss you peoples toes

[wise gull]

I just play sub for court

[spice spire]

No

[woven shore]

Why that

[wise gull]

[spring sigil]

wait why 😮

[spice spire]

It acts like an embellishment and is not good

[spring sigil]

Ahhhhh

right

[woven shore]

Why

Amb
Gar
Rup
Rup sometimes?

[spice spire]

You want the stabber

[grim jay]

3 weeks ago, before you secretly continued your career?

[spring sigil]

everforged stabber

got it

[normal mist]

You do not want the dagger that has intellect nor the one called "stiletto"

[quiet oar]

You horny mf

https://tenor.com/view/ninomae-inanis-takodachi-tako-no-horni-horni-gif-26104396

[woven shore]

Rog going to work

[white holly]

5 conversations here at once

[woven shore]

[white holly]

love it

[woven shore]

Yea xDDD

[wise gull]

you want to craft a dagger and then RECRAFT it for free OH upgrades

[oak tangle]

unsure what you expected

[wise gull]

[quiet oar]

The Dagger is int, the Stabber is Agi

afaik

[gusty mirage]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/area-52/Oxxi

[spring sigil]

Everforged stabber is the agi yeah :)!

[grim jay]

When did you reach 626 ilvl?

[white holly]

im bad with the crafting order system, how is it free to recraft? dont u need additional materials?

[wise gull]

THE RETURN OF OXI

[gusty mirage]

I won’t be raiding tho

Unfort

[grim jay]

[kind forge]

you can raid me

[gusty mirage]

I ain’t giving up those hof titles. I earned those

[gusty mirage]

[wise gull]

If you craft a 636 and then retract it again (can just change r3 missive to r2) the game treats it as a second weapon

[grim jay]

Its fine as long as you are back to enjoy DN

[kind forge]

[wise gull]

So you can upgrade your OH without crests

[fringe oxide]

Guys. Can I go see a psychiatrist for kingsbane getting parried on bosses? Last night 2nd boss me standing next to my tank. I do my opener. I hear clown noises. I slowly grab for my metaphorical clown nose.

[gusty mirage]

@marble hemlock

[wise gull]

Stand behind boss silly

[quiet oar]

May i enjoy DN too?

[gusty mirage]

What’s DN?

[wise gull]

deez

[white holly]

but u still need the additional materials to recraft the dagger?

[fringe oxide]

The tank taunts the boss as the adds are there.

[grim jay]

Darkest night you silly goose

[quiet oar]

I got parried on Queen and died "accidently" on the intermission

[gusty mirage]

[marble hemlock]

Skill expression + Thematic + Ranged lose more by moving + Fits the game well + L + Ratio + No bitches

[quiet oar]

Weird how your will to live leaves

[gusty mirage]

Damn Seli is a terrible therapist

[marble hemlock]

(fuck parry)

[gusty mirage]

Wtf

[wise gull]

yes, basically spending 30-40k for gilded crests

[kind forge]

[woven shore]

So i did an opener on dummys

i think i fucked up tho

[marble hemlock]

if you cant beat them, join them

[quiet oar]

(Fuck perry the Platypus)

[gusty mirage]

I miss u(s)

[wise gull]

do 50 more until you don’t

[woven shore]

😦

[nova aspen]

can we shadowstep queen ansurek during intermission? (heroic)

[woven shore]

feels like week 1

[wise gull]

that’s called learning

[marble hemlock]

im always just a DM away friendo

[gusty mirage]

Btw Seli the realest friend in all of the wow community. He checks up on me regularly. @spice spire is fake af

[woven shore]

when i did rota on dummy for hours before raid

payed off tho

[white holly]

go agane

[woven shore]

i hate learning

dont need to learn

😭

[white holly]

why play wow then

[wise gull]

my first season doing mythic i pugged heroic nathria 60 times to get all 99s lmfao

[woven shore]

got it

[quiet oar]

I mean Quake doesnt check on himself

[woven shore]

amb
gar
gar
rup
rup
Er
fok
ct
mut
fok
envenom
dm shiv tea bane

and then BANG BANG BANG

[wise gull]

The boss kills

[woven shore]

Heroic or mythic

[wise gull]

Heroic

[molten echo]

Shouldnt amb gar gar, overcapping CPs there

[wise gull]

I just looked at it as target dummies with a realistic environment

[molten echo]

Also are you running instant poison? Not amp?

[wise gull]

Then joined a CE guild

[woven shore]

deadly

[wise gull]

Run hybrid

[woven shore]

i believe thats the updated build from whisp

[quiet oar]

This screams zero ST DMG

[molten echo]

Ah looked like you had instant and deadly on details

I dont speak german haha

[spring sigil]

Is timing a 12 pretty much impossible at the minut

[woven shore]

nw

[spring sigil]

trying to decide whether to just drop my key to 11/10

[nova aspen]

not impossible, people have timed

[molten echo]

Is this better than double poison hybrid build for M+ tho?

[nova aspen]

but going from 11 to 12 is like going from 11 to 15

[spring sigil]

Oh, yeah im gonna drop it then xD

12 siege sounds like illness

[nova aspen]

its currently the m+ wall

12s that is

[spice spire]

Mf you got married you think my ass tryna send you dick pics still? Nah I am not a homewrecker

[quiet oar]

[gusty mirage]

?????

[spice spire]

[woven shore]

no

lmfao

okay

makes sense

no wonder i dealt no dmg

went from

3.3mil dps

to like 4,8 i think

ofc full buffed

pot

[molten echo]

In what timeframe tho

Like, how long did you hit the dummies for haha

[woven shore]

can i check that

[molten echo]

I mean your dps will vary a lot unless you do like a set amount of minutes with each build

But yeah hybrid should be better afaik

[woven shore]

i think that was in 1min kb up again

[wind jungle]

As an English speaker, those spell names are hilarious.

Giftbombe
Atzender Spritzer

[next jackal]

I just calculated it. And if I grind all day Saturday and Sunday, i can max out my gear and be ilevel 629.6. I just don’t know if it’s worth my sanity lol

[woven shore]

XDDDD

[tidal coyote]

does anyone know where to get accurate info on what trinkets we should be using in high M+ keys?

[molten echo]

Raidbots

But yeah, also

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[steel geyser]

raidbots for sims, raider.io to see what the highest rated players are using, archon for more stats about whats popular in high keys

[dawn heath]

hmmm

[nova aspen]

[molten echo]

Gz

[dawn heath]

dont know if i replace any of these

[molten echo]

You may, depending on what you get

[coarse summit]

doubt it

[radiant shadow]

is the Siphoning Stiletto any good? or the sims try to bait me? it show 17k dps gain ahhaha

[molten echo]

Only sims can answer that question for you

[coarse summit]

vs 636 weapon craft?

[royal lantern]

really really really really bad

[nova aspen]

its almost as bad as intellect dagger

[radiant shadow]

636 and 626

[molten echo]

Ah you meant with the spyglass, yeah no, don’t think spyglass will be better than those even at 626.

[coarse summit]

can you link?

[radiant shadow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3k4V3broFNcCT7Li4zdXSy

[woven shore]

how many sockets do you guys have

[dawn heath]

in raid

but

[dawn heath]

i doubt its worht in duengons

[woven shore]

[dawn heath]

wait wtf

i sim 1.3mil

wth

[nimble vector]

you are simming 3 embellishments with the stiletto

I think

[coarse summit]

yes

what its showing you is putting the 636 dagger with ascension

and then having 3 embellishments

[molten echo]

Is it 1 target patchwerk?

[dawn heath]

y

[coarse summit]

here is the mainhand one @radiant shadow

[dawn heath]

wait

it was dunegonslice

lamo

💀

but in rai dbuild

[molten echo]

Yeah thought so haha

[dawn heath]

gonna resim

i thoguth they changed the apl again

so i gained like 80k

xD

seems more like it

[radiant shadow]

bless you

[oak nacelle]

5% ST buff is big no?

[dawn heath]

think its 5%

[oak nacelle]

4 set mandatory

[dawn heath]

pretty big

[oak nacelle]

not real rogue unless 4 piece

[coarse summit]

true

[dawn heath]

its challenging not having 4p by nwo

[coarse summit]

not a real rogue without queen ring

[dawn heath]

i've killed queen on normal and hc every week since week 1

havent seen it drop yet

[proper hare]

based

[dawn heath]

on 2 characters

[coarse summit]

just have it drop and win the roll against every other person in the raid

easy

[dawn heath]

oh

i dont win rolls

i always buy it off people

[coarse summit]

skill issue

[dawn heath]

always top dps

bottom roller

ive been considering to just die on purpose and get loot like the rest of the noobs

always the guy on the floor doing 300k dps who rolls 99

[molten echo]

Just get it in the vault, seems that and the cloak is in all of my friends vaults every reset

Never in mine though kek

[oak nacelle]

assa is top boss dmg in raid soon

n1 spec

[dawn heath]

thats cope

but its decent

they are the top spec on rasha'nan

[tropic jewel]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[oak nacelle]

add 5% it becomes n1

[dawn heath]

u can filter

by last day

and u can see the stats

for yourself

[oak nacelle]

why would i

[dawn heath]

so u get current data?

[oak nacelle]

on shitty data?

[oak nacelle]

statistically insignificant

most guilds haven't even done mythic weekly run yet

or heroic lol

[molten echo]

Well the buff came a day ago, so past 1 or 2 weeks wouldn’t be representative of assa post-buff, is what i guess he means

[oak nacelle]

sure, but 1 day is bad data too

my argument was

[molten echo]

Yeah

[oak nacelle]

it was pre buff already near the top

[dawn heath]

its better than adding +5% flat ontop of a bar

[oak nacelle]

and if u just add 5% it becomes n1

it's not

[dawn heath]

it absolutely is

[oak nacelle]

False

[dawn heath]

🤦‍♂️

damage to bosses data is already not a good indicator of your bosses ST capability because you have bosses like Rasha'nan where we abuse his HP (by it starting at 60%) and also other specs are opting out into aoe specs on first boss where as assa doesn't really pad there. the best data to pull would be from sikran/kyveza if u wanna check for single target, same thing for broodkeeper. Assa sits boss and splashes where u have like a frost dk and dh fury war they just opt to do add damage (so damage to bosses) is a bad metric

use your noggin

[proper hare]

hmmge, is kukri actrually better than regicide? super small dps gain but not sure why

doing a bit of a droptomizer before raid

[royal lantern]

??????

[oak eagle]

thats just because the stats you have now, fit that dagger better than regicide

[dawn heath]

this man doesnt understand how bosses work

[oak nacelle]

I stand by my arguments

and I'm right.

[royal lantern]

no, you are not

[dawn heath]

you stand by beeing dumb

[royal lantern]

[oak eagle]

youre all just dumb

and accept that

its fine

[oak nacelle]

My intelligence spans galaxies

I'm never wrong

[royal lantern]

i know, and i embraced that years ago

but im still having some clue about wow lol

[oak eagle]

nah just dumb

kekw

(mods this is all jokes, please dont ban)

[proper hare]

maybe, got pretty balanced stats, its free for me since im solo rogue so just gonna switch to it if it drops untill something else comes up

[oak eagle]

well the reason i stated is exactly the reason why kukri is simming better than regicide, its because your stat weights have kukri giving you more beneficial stats than regcide would

[proper hare]

yeah i know ^^

[royal lantern]

actually its because Regicide is based af

down with monarchy

[proper hare]

im a dyslectic so i might re write shit for no reason

[oak eagle]

true, except bring back Queen Elizabeth, miss her

[humble ginkgo]

u talking about chinese guilds or something?

[spring sigil]

Should the only difference between my raid aoe/st talents be caustic spatter/internal bleeding?

[wild kettle]

is ovi'nax trinket any good it feels super weird

[quiet oar]

Nah

You are moving too much

[proper hare]

does anyknow know if the socket stays if you recraft bracers from 619-636?

[nimble vector]

yes, unless your guild for some reason can't kill parasites on ovinax, then you can drop improved garrote stuff for crimson tempest, but otherwise that's just padding

[viral spire]

!whispyr

[spice surge]

Its not really padding

[viral spire]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[quiet oar]

For Ovinax

[spice surge]

You obviously lose st damage by speccing it, but ct with multiple targets up does more damage than envenom to the boss

[quiet oar]

You use spatter and use the two points of VV for Chrimson tempest and thrown precision

for ovinax

[proper hare]

its not padding though

what do you guys run on ulgrax? pure st with spatter?

i just felt like i did fuck all damage last week

[slow tulip]

pure ST, no spatter

[oak eagle]

this week since we have it on farm

[nimble vector]

I was just going off my own situation, after the parasite hp nerf it did not feel worth playing CT because they died too fast from the warriors burst, but if your guild doesn't kill them quickly then it's worth to take CT

[viral spire]

[oak eagle]

i convinced my officers to let me play my m+ build

but then died to a swirly like a dummy

[viral spire]

Rookie mistake

[spring sigil]

Yeah i feel like m+ build for the amount of adds on Ulgrax has to be viable xD

[oak eagle]

yeah but it dont matter, because ill be able to do it again next week too

[proper hare]

gonna try this, i might actually do fatebound as well

currently sim higher as it on pure st

[viral spire]

[oak eagle]

hey my officers love me ok

(i only ask the one that somewhat tolerates me)

[spring sigil]

So what are the bosses on hc i want to go just pure ST?

[oak eagle]

all of them, no adds will live long enough on HC

[spring sigil]

Ah fair xD!

[oak eagle]

except bloodbound where you can maybe get away with running spatter instead of IB

[proper hare]

and ulgrax on mythic? then i will balast this reset

[slow tulip]

all but council and last

[oak eagle]

ulgrax on mythic i would prob run full ST and swap IB for Spatter

unless your guild for some reason wants you on big add dam duty

my guild did that for our first kill

where we make some people just be pure aoe

[spring sigil]

Thanks guys!

Tell you what mind, with the amount of siege keys I've had, i'm shocked I haven't had a spyglass yet xD

Still stuck with a champions Skardyns grace 😦

[oak eagle]

thats a big rip with the skardyns

i spent most of the first mythic week

just spamming GB

for the trinket

took me 18 I think

to loot it

[modest nexus]

!wa

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[spring sigil]

I've got a hero Ara'kara trinket but i iknow it aint BiS

[quiet oar]

it literally is in ST iirc

[oak eagle]

hero ara kara is bis tho

well

not hero

[spring sigil]

I need more grim batol keys

[oak eagle]

but myth

[oak eagle]

any 4 of those trinks are fine

[spring sigil]

Sweet, just need to do more +9 grims then 😮

[oak eagle]

for me currently, skardyns and kyveza trink are simming the best for me for ST

but that might change when i get more gear and actually loot a sac brood

[winged sun]

Same, dslice too

[oak eagle]

dslice it was spyglass and skardyns

ig just cause crit is so valueable in aoe

[quiet oar]

Just loot Sacbrood and Skardyns on myth track

idk

[oak eagle]

ya know

i wish

i could be that lucky

but it will never happen

[quiet oar]

So easy

[oak eagle]

i didnt loot a beacon in s2 df until the final vault when Amirdrassil was released on that tuesday

[oak eagle]

well have fun never getting anything you want for the rest of the expac

[grim jay]

Or heroic knife

[quiet oar]

That is so true

I can quit after this tier

[woven shore]

On Ulgrax mythic go splatter

Trust

[oak nacelle]

so the next patch has vanish heal buffed

[grim jay]

Think everyone does

[oak nacelle]

what else?

[grim jay]

Pins

[proper ridge]

Anyone know how i can resize specific debuff/script on plater? For example id like to have rupture and garrote debuff larger than others 🙂 anyone can help?

[woven shore]

Wao bro

How are you plater so smooth

Send me profile pls

[winged sun]

Send plater profile or i kill u ingame

[proper ridge]

i can send profile, but id like to do what i asked before i send it 😄

[winged sun]

U cant resize in debuffs/buffs?

Im not at my pc until tmrw

[proper ridge]

yes, u can, but id like to do it specifically for garrote and rupture. and google is not helping

[nova aspen]

[winged sun]

O specific?

That’ll look weird

@midnight mist if someone knows it’ll be him

[nova aspen]

hopefully my guild gets aotc tonight, and surely that ring will drop

[proper ridge]

anyway where can i share this profile correctly in order to not spam?

[nova aspen]

🥹

[winged sun]

Just spam it in my dm’s

It’ll be fine for me

[quiet oar]

and a retri will roll higher than you

🙂

[nova aspen]

odds are yes actually, we have 4 rets

[woven shore]

Yea

[nova aspen]

clownin spec

[woven shore]

Send in dms

NOW

[spring moat]

When we got it, three shields dropped

[nova aspen]

do u guys know if im able to step the queen during shield intermission?

or is it deth

[nimble vector]

yes it's fine

[nova aspen]

ok

[nimble vector]

just run out a bit and step after you get pulled

[nova aspen]

nice

big uptime gain there then

[spring moat]

Yes. But don’t step forward. Like I did. Lmaooooo

[nova aspen]

u mean step then walk forward?

[spring moat]

Yes

😂😂

[nova aspen]

xD

[spring moat]

Raid leader was like “sigh”

[nova aspen]

we did a full clear then got her to 10% best pull tuesday night

should have it dead tonight

many sigh moments like that tho

[spring moat]

We had a couple 5% wipes. First phase is the hardest lol

We also have some…special people 😂

[nova aspen]

yea it seems that way

id rather p1 be harder than p3 at least

[midnight mist]

only with a script prolly

I hide rupt and garotte on my plates

[spring moat]

We had two cycles of adds and Ignored third set

[quiet oar]

drop the script zac

do it

[spring moat]

Acolytes

[woven shore]

Okay so again

What is shiv for before kb

[nova aspen]

that sounds like where we will end up

didnt see 2nd set of acolytes yet with boss at 10%

[left mauve]

so for me, dead-eye spyglass is simming lower then void reaper contract at the same ilvl.... anyone know if I should still be using spyglass?

or just stick with the sim

[midnight mist]

i just have the plate frame whatever how do you call it, have different colors if gar/rupt/both is up, otherwise assa plates gets too spammy

[winged sun]

@proper ridge

[tall jay]

!wa

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[grim jay]

Initial hit and first tick

So you can cover the whole duration

[woven shore]

@proper ridge where the profile bro

[proper ridge]

hey hello, how could i do that with a script? can u help?

[midnight mist]

no i cant

[proper ridge]

i can share in PM if needed

[midnight mist]

you have to code it lol

[daring valley]

highly recommend Ceverions Profile for Assa, the color changes for Deathstalker mark and caustic splatter are great

[woven shore]

100%

[midnight mist]

i cant really help wi th thta

maybe you can find ones on wagio

but you can do pretty much anything with scripts/mods in plater

[proper ridge]

im not really confident with plater scripts, thats why im here asking for help

[grim jay]

Might wanna try the plater discord

[proper ridge]

could be a good pooint of start 🙂

[midnight atlas]

i gave up un plater for those things, i swapped to BPP for caustic and mark.

[quiet oar]

You would think they have a full plate of solutions

[midnight mist]

Look in wagio if something exist

Cause if you don't know, it might be hard to code one from the ground up you know

[proper ridge]

what is BPP?

[oak nacelle]

what's auto casting slice and dice next patch?

[grim jay]

Ha, a plate

[midnight mist]

Well ok tbf

[midnight atlas]

better blizz plates, its bbp my bad xD

[midnight mist]

You can also just use weak auras

Instead

[proper ridge]

is it an addon like Plater?

[midnight mist]

Anchor buffs to plates is eady

[grim jay]

I only have strong aura

[mortal reef]

I’m nearing this amount. Haven’t even seen it drop yet

[midnight atlas]

yes, it's used for pvp mostly and has less performance loss.

[grim jay]

Loot pool huge and not everyone can loot it

[dawn merlin]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[mortal reef]

I believe it lol. Definitely feels like it

I live inside that dungo

[safe patrol]

kinda wanna take dagger but raiding on sunday so maybe a bit troll and only rogue, cata chest sims as well as dagger and is prob the best long term choice but idk. any tips? not taking trinket since will be a while until I can prio crests on it and maybe something better comes up until then + raiding as sub and rolling haste on that not too tempting

[grim jay]

You could aswell just wait until after your raid

Thats the big brain move

[safe patrol]

it is

you are right

[grim jay]

The trinket is tied with the few others for ST and m+

Idk for sub

But wdym you cant spend crests on it?

[nova aspen]

i'd take the crystal trinket. especially if u have that dagger boss on farm

[grim jay]

It should be one of your best slots

[nova aspen]

but i also only do keys and play sin

so crystal good for me

[grim jay]

Id probably only ditch one of the 3 because I have heroic knife

If there is something else thats worthy

Trinkets are rather rare

[nova aspen]

ye

u will probably see the dagger drop at some point, but u will probably never see crystal trinket again

on myth

[safe patrol]

aa yeah

screw it ty guys

[faint vessel]

heroic dagger is underwhelming as a vault slot for sure

[grim jay]

Also you might have crafted dagger

[faint vessel]

unless youve got 3 rogues in your raid...

[grim jay]

So thats only 3 ilvl

[grim jay]

Its mythic

[faint vessel]

ohhhh

[safe patrol]

I do indeed

[arctic tusk]

got this one but i think dagger from M+ is kind of pointless since 2 are in raid

[grim jay]

Yeah then id just rule out the dagger and wait for it to drop

[faint vessel]

2nd boss, too, so youll have a lot of chances

[grim jay]

Always depends on the other options

The m+ dagger still has better stats

[arctic tusk]

ya but i can just get those stats on a ring or crafted piece

[grim jay]

Or both and be 2x good

It doesnt matter much tho

Maybe like 2-3k

[wispy epoch]

Is it better to move embellish crafted slots to rings or neck so you can raise your chances of gem slots on main slots

Feels like with high crit build, every gem is high value

[grim jay]

The gem with crit dmg increase isnt really that great, you just take it because its there

[wispy epoch]

No?

[grim jay]

Also dw, you will get vault sockets soon

[pine zephyr]

What would be an ideal craft for 4th spark.(Apart from dagger waist wrist) ?

[grim jay]

Whatever you are missing

[wispy epoch]

How many coins is a gem socket again?

From vault

[spice surge]

One socket

per week if you filled all 3 slots

[nova aspen]

i like filling all 3 slots

[woven shore]

is this good aoe dmg on 5 enemys in 27seconds

[velvet bridge]

what's the best moment to use the lethal mark in dungeon ?

[woven shore]

lethal mark ?

[hollow talon]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[woven shore]

you mean deathmark

[velvet bridge]

this*

yep

[woven shore]

what you mean best moment

well its 2m cd

[vestal cliff]

hey guys do i play improved garrote or improved poisons? in single target

[woven shore]

so try to use it on prio targets so that you ahve it back up on boss

[velvet bridge]

like should i keep it for the boss or use it on cd ?

[woven shore]

check Wowhead

[molten echo]

Cant see your total dps, and 27 seconds is probably a very small sample size, but there’s just like 2 envenoms there?

[woven shore]

i think poison

[hollow talon]

why is the delve trinket so good in m+ https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ueLDXXTqKecbHiatJxiMHD

do i gotta do some delves for vault slots

[woven shore]

7

[molten echo]

Right, on the phone, didnt see the count

But just 7.55m in 7 envenoms?

[vestal cliff]

if i play improved poisons how should i use vanish ?

[winged basin]

Am I missing some interaction with Iron Stomach that removes the affix this week?

[molten echo]

Are you finishing at 7 CP at all?

[spice surge]

Its just good

[spice surge]

No, the list just lies

It just makes your crimson heal slightly more

So its easier to heal it off

[winged basin]

ahh I thought so lmfao, that’s what I told them

[woven shore]

250m in 1m 27s

5 enemys

[hollow talon]

i shouldve been doing delves all this time smh

[rose wharf]

i'm getting new trinkets but nothing seems to be as good as my trusty Waning Candle

[woven shore]

unlucky crits prolly

[molten echo]

So it was 1m27s the details you linked before?

[woven shore]

this one

mb didnt use second kb

could be 10m more

[candid hull]

Follow the Blood is still meh right?

nvm just read pinned

[hollow talon]

how do i do delves as ass do i just regular tricks on brann

[tepid drum]

yea, but dont trix from stealth

[nova aspen]

u talking about the crit candle that can give crit to party members?

i cant click the link

[candid hull]

Seal ring did more damage than arakara trink in a +10

[hollow talon]

the shadow knife

[molten echo]

Env dmg just feels low, dno if you’re consuming deathmark every time it’s possible. Average 1 mil with 50% being crit just seems low. Anyway, what’s more telling is your dps, not the total damage done

[nova aspen]

ohh

yea its nuts

hard to get

im using the crit candle on hero atm

[hollow talon]

i have 626 egg and skardyns but still sims better

[nova aspen]

it still sims better than the sac 626

but im also a coin flipper

[molten echo]

Yea crit candle pretty strong

[nova aspen]

my friend notices when he gets the candle on his head too

[molten echo]

619 one sims better than 626 spyglass for me

[spring moat]

Can you add sockets to crafted necklaces?

[spice surge]

Yes

[spring moat]

Nice

[woven shore]

3m

[slim pebble]

It also comes with a socket so you’re saving some money

[woven shore]

first its 4m something

then goes down to 3m 2,9

[molten echo]

I mean you could try simming patchwerk 5 bosses for the same timeframe as you’re hitting the 5 dummies and compare i guess

[faint vessel]

!wa

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[molten echo]

To see if you’re fucking something up majorly or are close to what your character with current gear allows

Just take off all buffs in the sim

[hexed canopy]

do we want any timewalking trinkets?^^

[woven shore]

Ok

[molten echo]

Wrathstone seems good, if you can luck out and get it in the cache haha

[hexed canopy]

thought the same 😄

[woven shore]

hm okay

[proper ridge]

If anyone wants i modified Quazii profile for tracking better rogue DoTs on enemy.
DM for profile

[hollow talon]

can i do 8 regular delves for vault for shadow knife or do i have to do them as bountiful

[nova aspen]

any t8 delve works, however, bountiful can give u the delver bounty

[molten echo]

Regular delve or bountiful doesn’t matter for vault, just the tier

[nova aspen]

and delver bounty can give u hero track trinket

[hollow talon]

ooh you can get hero trinket from the delve itself?

[spice surge]

If you get a map yes

[nova aspen]

yep

[molten echo]

If you get the map that gives a 610 item on end of delve ye

[drifting basin]

how good are the TW trinkets from ulduar? im looking at that Wrathstone with oogly eyes; should i be sad i didnt get it?

[hollow talon]

ooh cool

[fallow marsh]

What is a good percentage for envenom uptime we should be shooting for?

[hollow talon]

might as well bountiful it then

[spice surge]

Its about as good as skardyn

So not really

[vestal flume]

Is there a chance iron wire is killing my tank…? I was running with a bear tank and I would silence everything every pull and he would get 1 shot by melees

[drifting basin]

oh thats good

pog

[spice spire]

Okay but imagine wrath for every non dm kb

[nova aspen]

also the delver bounty comes from the blue chests at the end of bountiful delve

[spice spire]

Hello

[nova aspen]

so u dont need to use coffer keys

could just do 4x bountiful delves each day to maximize ur odds

[hollow talon]

oic

[molten echo]

He’s not using defensives when pulling in a ”high” key is the issue i’d guess

[spice surge]

No, iron wire also reduces their damage by 15%, and you probably apply numbing so they attack slower

So he should take significantly less damage with you in the group

[hollow talon]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[spice surge]

IE he just didnt press any buttons, not your fault

[vestal flume]

Ooooh gotcha makes sense thank you

[molten echo]

Can also be dropped when zekvir invades your delve

[nova aspen]

personally im not farming it anymore as im happy with the crit candle

buffing allies is pretty nice too

[drifting basin]

i got the mjolnir runestone trinket though and it sims about the same as ara-kara+skardyn

in dungeon slice

[soft shale]

yes most TW trinkets can be good

[spice surge]

Ye tw trinkets being good just showcases how terrible all the trinkets are in tww

[soft shale]

but they cant be mythic so they are not super bis

midcore upgrades go hard tho

[drifting basin]

obviously, but haven't had any vault luck so far

[spice spire]

[soft shale]

yea i got a sucky cloak

[spice spire]

You’re so real for that

[keen viper]

!bis

[drifting basin]

i think its pretty pog that TW trinkets are good

give u some mid-tier gamba options

[spice surge]

I mean they didnt really buff the tw trinkets

[drifting basin]

without feeling like you're fucked if you get unlucko

[spice surge]

Theyre as good as they were in dragonflight

The reason we didnt use them in dragonflight is because the trinkets from DF were signficantly better than tww trinkets

[drifting basin]

oh i remember there was a trinket from firelands that they nerfed like 10 times because it was so BiS

Matrix?

is that the one

that was in DF

[zealous wolf]

Does playing with an aug get your dps up or its all shown on the augs dps? Im talking about details meter

[blazing slate]

would anyone be willing to look at one of my logs and tell me what i should be doing better or what im doing wrong?

[spice surge]

It ups your details yes

[zealous wolf]

Hmm

Idk how is my aug friend doing xd, he gets like 350k on the colored line and maybe 850k with the transperent one, but i think he gets my dps up by like 300k

maybe not 300k, forgot i got a new weapon

[balmy dome]

Do you guys build to a certain CP before going into kingsbane window?

[royal lantern]

bro, just stand still and you get mainstat bro its sick

[fresh kelp]

Logs will show aug damage more accurately

[royal lantern]

wdym stuff is movment heavy rn??

[royal lantern]

no, you want envenom running

[spice surge]

I mean the egg isnt even better if you stand still

You actively want to move to keep it roughly equal

[hearty reef]

Triple ttf kb ramping....

https://tenor.com/view/drool-spit-homer-the-simpsons-gif-3974820

[sturdy merlin]

Hi, I'm gonna start mythic queen prog very soon and with all the spec tuning that went live lately, I'm curious to have the opinion of some TCs or high end raiders active here : do you think sin could be a better pick than sub for this fight now ? I've seen @sudden brook speccing to sin for the fight and i'd love to have your input on why you made that choice, if you read this message

[tall jay]

for court, how do we reapply DM in p3?

[south token]

!plater

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[midnight atlas]

ambush from stealth

[spring sigil]

Can I just double check something, Indiscriminate carnage, if i use garroute/rupture on the same enemy, it'll spread to others for 6s after breaking stealth?

[balmy dome]

so just envenom straight into kingsbane?

[spring sigil]

or does it have to be a unaffected enemy

[spring moat]

Shouldn’t fall off. If it does then vanish+ambush

[spice surge]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[thorn crown]

Switching from Outlaw to Assa. What means normal rotation in AoE? Only have Ramping Deathstalker AoE and Cooldown Sequence Deathstalker AoE.

Is there meant the Ramping Deathstalker AoE?

[spice surge]

normal, regular, the one without cooldowns

Just the regular gameplay loop

[thorn crown]

Only have this. But for this I need to be in stealth before, or?

Ah, it's much more below this.

[glad tartan]

what 2 craft ?

[nova aspen]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[thorn crown]

What stats to I take for dawnthread?

[spice surge]

Whatever you feel like, it doesnt really matter

[tall jay]

It don't, but, i have it on tall guy, but then when we get to the fat guy, i don't have it on the fat guy for that whole shield?

[honest crow]

Should i upgrade my mainhand first when i have limited Gilded Harbringer Crest. or keep my offhand evenly upgraded?

[spice surge]

Offhand is the least important slot

So that should be upgraded last ideally

[honest crow]

ok

[spice surge]

Out of all slots

So full send mainhand (or craft one)

[honest crow]

getting just 15 Gilded Harbringer Crest a week from Silken Court is rough

[arctic socket]

Lass boss kills are only 150k now

This is going to sound like a “meme” question but are there any sims comparing evoker rogue vs orc rogue

To see which racial is better? (I’m thinking of swapping to evoker since no fall damage and glide boost sounds sick)

[spice surge]

Its absolutely orc

Dps wise

Dracthyr doesnt have much in terms of simdps

[royal lantern]

evoker has no "dmg" racial

[arctic socket]

I mean

[spice surge]

it has 1 mastery point

[arctic socket]

3% mastery

[royal lantern]

they just have the ussual "some secondary stat is %higher"

[spice surge]

Its effectively the same as belfs 1% crit

Except its mastery

[royal lantern]

im somewhat sure that not even better then the belf/worgen/nelf 1%crit

or the highmountain 1%verss

[arctic socket]

That’s why I was asking for sims

[royal lantern]

why is 1% crit so common btw

[arctic socket]

I don’t wanna like screw myself over a few thousand dps

[coral ibex]

really wish racials were cosmetic only, i want to play a cute belf but i like the troll haste racial

[hollow talon]

is there any benefit to doing delves past tier 8

[royal lantern]

most people do

[hollow talon]

do you get extra loots or something

[royal lantern]

achievments and need to do a 10 for zskarn t2 difficulty

[spice surge]

Its pretty much the same as belf/goblin/highmountain whatever other race that has a 1% bonus

Theyre all just super close

[nimble ether]

Strictly only play cute races

[dusty crescent]

Orc only

https://tenor.com/view/orc-smile-gif-10315643652749609661

best race

[dawn heath]

rogue damage is getting ther

[woven shore]

is it okay

[coral ibex]

yea that damage breakdown looks better

[woven shore]

+7

[subtle tundra]

Has been there since season started

[woven shore]

is it okay if envenom deals more dmg than splatter

[dawn heath]

envenom cannot be higher than caustic

[woven shore]

well

[dawn heath]

you must forget to apply caustic to mobs

[woven shore]

duuuudde

i swear i didnt

[coral ibex]

not if you spend more time on bosses for whatever reason

[woven shore]

but the small adds that didnt had so muc hp

[subtle tundra]

Yea if packs die fast

[woven shore]

died really fast

exactly

[subtle tundra]

You'd rather play bleed build though

[coral ibex]

caustic and env can be about equal its not a problem

[woven shore]

the hunter and me were blasting like crazy

okay thank you

so i did fine

thank god

[dawn heath]

fan of knives beeing over your kingsbane looks weird to me

[woven shore]

hybrid

[dawn heath]

huh

[woven shore]

i play hybrid if that matters

idk

[dawn heath]

dont know what that means

[honest crow]

its the Crimson dance build isnt it?

[coral ibex]

the talent build

[woven shore]

i think its bc i didnt cast kb as often as i couldve

i still need to figure out

but mobs die just so fast

the moment i apply my dots

and then shiv kb

they are like 60% health

[coral ibex]

yea its tough when you pull multiple packs and your prio target dies halfway thru kb

[harsh anchor]

Never group with an arcane mage if you want your kb to last

[woven shore]

it was very often like 2-4 targets

and squishy

he was frost

[dusty crescent]

just do the best you can

we still lurb you

[coral ibex]

frost cranks prio damage too

yea dw about it you are doing fine i think

[harsh anchor]

Mage is blaster class. Arcane just had their own KB that does more damage than ours, that was my thought

[woven shore]

thanks

for the "i think"

xDD

[silver otter]

Damn this makes me wanna switch from outlaw in keys now haha

[woven shore]

and now back to the usual

[silver otter]

Does assa feel better on ST in keys with the changes ?

[dawn heath]

it felt pretty ok now

2nd boss

[silver otter]

It might just have been my non-optimal gameplay but I felt super weak when I tried sin a few times in keys

oh that's nice yeah

[dawn heath]

first boss

[dusty crescent]

they never invite us boss

[silver otter]

On first boss do you hold DM/KB for the burst phase ?

in mists ?

[dawn heath]

ye

[coral ibex]

100%

[dusty crescent]

ofc

[spice spire]

Oh yeah

[silver otter]

Since I didn't play much sin I'm not sure about when to hold.

in keys

[coral ibex]

always hold cd's for damage amps

[dusty crescent]

i've cranked 2m ST during burn phase

[spice spire]

Depending on speed can probably send kb if tree will last a minute

If it doesn’t

[woven shore]

just got declined

[spice spire]

Then you hold

[woven shore]

on +7

6

[gleaming crown]

!fuu

[dusty crescent]

yep

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dusty crescent]

i get declined when i have higher rio than the entire group

[silver otter]

When you pug it you never know haha

[dusty crescent]

Apes

[coral ibex]

welcome to pug life

[woven shore]

lmfao

[silver otter]

I got to 2.3k playing outlaw but now it's getting really rough finding groups

[spice spire]

You can get an inkling from damage

[dusty crescent]

at 615 just to test i've applied to 4's and got declined

[wise mist]

run your own keys, problem solved

[dusty crescent]

so pugs deplete yours!

[woven shore]

how do you play that fight

[spice spire]

Like I did an 8 last week where the mage was at 900k and I knew we were gonna be on that boss for a hot minute

[coral ibex]

there's also a gorillion dps applying to every key

[woven shore]

do you always keep rup gar and ct on both up

[wise mist]

meh, if you're running a 10 of your own and they have multiple timed 10s you're gonna be fine most of the time

[silver otter]

It's what I do but sometimes either I get one that makes people run away or it gets depleted to a 6 from a 10 lol

[wise mist]

its up to you to put together an optimal group

[woven shore]

do you use KB on the big guy

[silver otter]

Yeah I usually do and I get good peeps most of the time

[woven shore]

and then mark on the ugly fucker

[coral ibex]

no

[silver otter]

But sometimes you get bad surprises

[coral ibex]

you save kb and mark for the short guy

[woven shore]

yea let me change real quick

[dawn heath]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/iQQEmuz4EkBVtRNJ8?invite=cr-MSxtZVcsMTcyMzI0NTA1LA

[coral ibex]

and you don't cd the tall guy at all