assassination

[glad osprey]

it was actually extremely weird and creepy

[spice spire]

UHM

[grim jay]

@balmy condor would you personally, assuming it sims the same 5min patchwerk, use mandate or the knife?

[glad osprey]

oh yea

[grim cape]

Okay, so the rest of the context is that it's better to avoid sanguine outside of cds since deathmark does more damage, but the excess energy during CD will get converted using sanguine?

[keen spruce]

see our players just link their feet in general guild chat

[glad osprey]

and like 40 year old men too

not even the same age grou

group

[waxen oyster]

actual porn is weird

[proven jasper]

My guild just talks about balls and feet

[spice spire]

Pretty much

[waxen oyster]

getting sent memes about feet or gooner jokes

[glad osprey]

and at the time i was 19

[waxen oyster]

is funni

[glad osprey]

and thats only one of them

[grim cape]

Cool.

[proven jasper]

its okay my old rl way back when was a 45 year old man that acted 15

[spice spire]

@grim jay ‘s boomer ass damn

[grim jay]

I can boom your ass

[proven jasper]

And had to be put in his place by someone half his age

[spice spire]

Promise?

[grim jay]

[glad osprey]

yeah idk its crazy

[spice spire]

Yeah ur sucks I’m ngl

[dusty crescent]

everyone either tough or autistic on the internet

[proven jasper]

What if im both

[spice spire]

One of my raiders from DF had a similar issue

[spice spire]

Yeah both here

[dusty crescent]

you choose which you wanna be

[keen spruce]

There's a lot of good guilds with girls in the officer core / leadership that don't put up with shit like that @glad osprey. just gotta poke around a bit

[dusty crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/fedora-tipshat-mlady-melady-athiest-gif-7191305

[glad osprey]

honestly im yet to find one

[spice spire]

I’ll lay your dad on the floor if you sass me but also miss social ques that are obvious

[glad osprey]

i dont doubt theyre out there

[spice spire]

I’d say I had one

[glad osprey]

but its rare

[spice spire]

But I learned recently

That my officers were not

[gray horizon]

Plenty of decent guilds with women in them. We've got 3 and zero issues

Weirdos just get kicked

[dusty crescent]

never been in a guild with more than two women

[spice spire]

I’ve had a lot.
People are weirdos though

[glad osprey]

yea my small casual guild im in rn has like one other girl and no weirdos yet which im ok with

[dusty crescent]

and two is enough for the remaining guild to be weird to them

[proven jasper]

Think we have two in mine

just gotta weed out the freaks

For sure

[spice spire]

I mean I am too. But to dudes because they don’t get harassed enough tbh

[dusty crescent]

i'm surprised to never hear of a female or female identifying only guild 🤔

[proven jasper]

Probably out there

[keen spruce]

where are you lookin for guilds? recruitment discords normally will mention inclusivity and representation if it's important to them

[waxen oyster]

nowhere’s as bad as rbgs

[glad osprey]

i like the guild im in rn im just saying past experiences

LOL

[dusty crescent]

Harass me anytime papi

[gray horizon]

We have women and trans in our guild and everyone just vibes, and we're a CE guild. Def out there, just gotta find what fits for you

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

Say less king

[keen spruce]

I've noticed that it gets better once you're in CE guidls

[dusty crescent]

I'm counting on it, don't let me down handsome

[keen spruce]

I encounterd in mid-mythic / AOTC / casual raiding guilds

[spice spire]

Hopefully it continues to be a good experienc they can be difficult to find.

[gray horizon]

CE guilds care about reputation, that's why lol

[spice surge]

Does spatter from the second boss hit the adds, yes/no

[proven jasper]

Dont think so

[grim jay]

no

100% not on normal play

[waxen oyster]

higher you go I noticed dudes went to younger

[spice spire]

Hits small adds if they’re close

But it’s 8y from center boss

That’s mad center

[waxen oyster]

also casually throwing homoerotic jokes around each other

for the funny

[spice spire]

Oh yeah that’s kind of my bit unfortunately

[gray horizon]

yeah we're all early 30s and just slang those jokes at each other all day

[waxen oyster]

If your homie closes his eyes

[proven jasper]

Seems to be a common thing thats like 80% of my guild jokes

[waxen oyster]

is it actually gay

[spice spire]

Absolutely not

[proven jasper]

[spice spire]

Also it’s not gay to be a homiesexual. I love the homies, would do anything to keep them happy

[glad osprey]

LOL

[spice spire]

Anyway

[keen spruce]

If i can't threaten my homies with backshots and snuggles then what's the point of being in a guild tbh

[gray horizon]

my 100 parse on m sikran last night got demoted to a 99 this morning. What do i even have to live for now

[spice spire]

How about those shiv windows

[proven jasper]

Thats a real man right there

[spice spire]

The 100 next week king

Don’t you ever forget

what they took from you

[gray horizon]

next week is ulgrax redemption

[keen spruce]

wait why did one of my messages get deleted

[spice spire]

Hell yeah

[keen spruce]

tf did I say

[gray horizon]

i may have green parsed it

lol

[spice spire]

It was not me

[keen spruce]

moroes did it

drunk ass robot

[spice spire]

Oh wild

[golden loom]

My 11 parse on mythic uglrax will improve this week or else..

[spice spire]

Some combo of words and letters work

And just hit filter

[dusty crescent]

I love this guy

[spice spire]

Moroes wilds out sometimes

[keen spruce]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[spice spire]

I love you too mister OJ

[waxen oyster]

not much

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

Shiv windows for energy

Oh

Fuck

I auto piloted

[gray horizon]

honestly same lmao. I always fuck up and let my mark drop off during intermission

[keen spruce]

cuz of !resTEAlth

[spice spire]

Yeah

[keen spruce]

stupid robit

[glad osprey]

im never gonna be able to find ppl for this mists key

[spice spire]

Yes you will

Also

Harder rn

[waxen oyster]

ulgrax is just a boring boss

[spice spire]

Because you’re in unemployed NA hours

[golden loom]

lost mark and panic vanished on adds

[glad osprey]

literally no one is signing up XD

[gray horizon]

that's what I did, and then ASSUMED my mark would have carried over from adds

but our slow asses took forever to feed him so it dropped off again

[keen spruce]

who you want

[waxen oyster]

they did lower incentives to do lower keys

with delves

[gray horizon]

and then i just had to cry the rest of the fight, forever starved of energy

[keen spruce]

I'm ready to game

[glad osprey]

level 70s nice

[keen spruce]

[golden loom]

yeah its what happend to me also 😛

[glad osprey]

delves are so boringgg

:(

[spice spire]

Bring me shmups

[calm grail]

Is Depths really better for m+

[dusty crescent]

flirting with the homies has no downside, and we're so much better at it

[waxen oyster]

the gear is good

[keen spruce]

shmups is a certified terrorist

[spice spire]

Run 11s

[keen spruce]

shmups most used ability is purg

[glad osprey]

i like group content

[spice spire]

Less boring

[glad osprey]

not solo stuff

[spice spire]

I love homie delves

[waxen oyster]

dopamine hit is doing nightfall sanctum

[gray horizon]

honestly delves suck as rogue

[waxen oyster]

and getting multiple tinderbox drops

[gray horizon]

extremely unfun

[dusty crescent]

i'm no fan of delves, but i helped some guildies do zekvir, i felt helpful

[spice spire]

You’re a sick man

[gray horizon]

its like torghast all over again

[spice spire]

Nvm fan

[waxen oyster]

im deranged tbh

[tired gull]

i wish zekvir counted towards delves again 😦

[waxen oyster]

my bran is 51

[spice spire]

It’s a little harder during NA work times

Boomer game

[grizzled fulcrum]

Torghast was fun

[spice spire]

My brann is only 39 lmfao

I’ve not been delving the last few weeks

[dusty crescent]

i played about 6 hours of shadowlands and dragonflight together

i quit for 2 xpacs until now

[glad osprey]

i hated torghast sm that i quit shadowlands because of it

[zenith prairie]

Df was the best

[spice spire]

I played too many hours in df and sl

[glad osprey]

yeah hot take i actually liked df more than this war within stuff

the first raid is kind of underwhelming like

[spice spire]

Death

[grizzled fulcrum]

Depends which class you were playing
Paladin was so fun

[strange python]

So during deathmark when its the optimal time to vanish apply a new empowered garrote?

[spice spire]

Vault was kind of underwhelming

[dusty crescent]

i got to see xala'tath feet so this best raid since ulduar

[spice spire]

Whenever you are in pandemic

No real ideal time

[spice spire]

[glad osprey]

vault had raz

[spice spire]

Didn’t finish this; underwhelming until raz

Raz was insane

Okay dude

[gray horizon]

DF was 100x better than TWW tbh

[spice spire]

We don’t share the brain cell

[gray horizon]

Feels like there's nothing to do in TWW other than keys or raid

[calm grail]

Is Authority of the depths as good as Radiant power in AOE/M+? I see it's more popular there despite looking like a ST chant.

[gray horizon]

World content is pointless in TWW

[dusty crescent]

i only wanna do keys and raid....

[coral ibex]

what "relevant" world content was there in df

[spice spire]

Was world content important in df?

[gray horizon]

Then it's perfect lol

It wasn't important, but if you enjoy the game for stuff other than just leveling and gearing, there was way more to do in DF

Rep was way better

[keen spruce]

in WoW*

[glad osprey]

i dont like the nerubar palace raid, it just feels very underwhelming compared to all of the df raids and im definitely going to forget this once the next one comes out

[gray horizon]

Actual stuff to grind for or get achieves

[jovial solar]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[glad osprey]

ive only done it on heroic not mythic mind you but like

the visual effects dont seem to be as cool as the other ones

[dusty crescent]

i only wanna do keys and fly around capital city to be honest

[glad osprey]

and the fights are kinda meh

[spice spire]

Mythic is kind of nuts

[fallow canopy]

we finally have the answer to "do all rogues share 1 brain cell?" and apparently we share 2

[dusty crescent]

@spice spire sorry to have you lose respect for me u.u

[spice spire]

But I’m only gonna do heroic

[spice spire]

I never lose hope for the homies. Nor respect

[keen spruce]

quake you're a heroic gamer now?

[coral ibex]

how was rep better in df

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

Love them even when they’re being little goobers

[coral ibex]

nothing was warbound

[dusty crescent]

phew

[spice spire]

Yeah

[gray horizon]

I think if the weekly events in the zones were actually fun or gave you useful rewards i'd like tww more tbh

[coral ibex]

that shit sucked

[fading echo]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[spice spire]

Brother

[dusty crescent]

can't yuck peoples yum you know?

[spice spire]

I have 2h workout sessions 5 times a week

[dusty crescent]

we could have way worse interests lmao

[spice spire]

You think I can do that + my shit work schedule raiding multiple times a week?

[fallow canopy]

gonna end up as a swole huge dog

[keen spruce]

I don't think i could go back to AOTC gaming

[glad osprey]

im just a student

[spice spire]

Already am

[keen spruce]

my brain is too degenerate

[spice spire]

Just gotta be less fat too

[dusty crescent]

Damn bro

[tropic tundra]

flesh is weak

[gray horizon]

just get on that ozempic

[dusty crescent]

I love lifting

powerlifting keeps me from the rope ngl

[keen spruce]

mfer got so jacked he tore his own lat smh

[spice spire]

Nah because then I’m not in taking proper nutrients for gains then

[limber lion]

I'm 4/8 on Heroic. Thoughts?

[dawn heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449080055893590017/1293625617027170386/image.png?ex=67080e3d&is=6706bcbd&hm=14e062c0d9f206dca41686fcfdaa76991610ef6f3e5833a049a195e906bb993d&

[tropic tundra]

maybe plan the farming schedule while you do the lifts

[dawn heath]

is this cracked on rogue too?

xd

[spice spire]

Like mathematically I can’t

[waxen oyster]

same

[tropic tundra]

[keen spruce]

I envy your resolve

[limber lion]

I wish I had AOTC :'(

[tropic tundra]

should be good with ANY 2min melee

[spice spire]

Yeah

[gray horizon]

wtf is a wrathstone

[tropic tundra]

i mean, thats basically embersoul

[narrow osprey]

Feels like a lot of guides are outdated and top rogues are doing different things. Are we going for ascendence on weapon or dawnthread lining or elemental focusing lens?

[waxen oyster]

I’d probably be a social in my guild

[spice spire]

Yeah but ur still tucking nuts

[dawn heath]

timewalking trinket

[waxen oyster]

before joining a heroic guild

[spice spire]

I’m perma aggressively mediocre

[dusty crescent]

pepsi what's you favorite lift?

[coral ibex]

ulduar trinket

[tropic tundra]

timewalking ulduar trinket, 2min baseline crit / on use massive str/agi buff

[gray horizon]

sim it. ascendence is better for purely raid

[narrow osprey]

only doing m+

[spice spire]

No I’m an idiot

For that

[coral ibex]

ulduar trinkets were insane

[waxen oyster]

i mean wrathstone stands out for dh

[tropic tundra]

theres an int version of it too

[waxen oyster]

when your best stat is crit

[tropic tundra]

i'm a cat main and its also better than skardyn sometimes

[narrow osprey]

only doing m+, so guess elemental?

[glad osprey]

I think it also depends on what you personally need

i had a veteran in my off hand so i crafted a weapon

[keen spruce]

I go gym now. parsing LFR legs

[spice spire]

Ascendency is primarily for raid, lens is multi speeding and dawn is for m+ primary

[gray horizon]

not sure, i'm not a big m+'er. I think it's just dawnthread though?

[narrow osprey]

I don't need weapons, were lucky with drops

[spice spire]

Nothing wrong with progress king

[dusty crescent]

well since pepsi didn't answer me i'll answer

my favorite lift is leg press

[spice spire]

I missed

[narrow osprey]

Ah cheers! Going for Dawn then, since I'm m+ focused

[keen spruce]

teach me to deadlift without feeling like i'm gonna pass out

[spice spire]

I miss rows so much rn

[tropic tundra]

why work out to live longer, when you literally waste time working out

[spice spire]

It’s on form dude and not egoing yourself

[fallow canopy]

for the fuzzy feelings

[spice spire]

It feels good

[keen spruce]

rows are so cozy

i love back day

[coral ibex]

working out is just pooling energy IRL

[proven jasper]

[tropic tundra]

I assume you looted skardyn too early

[keen spruce]

makes me feel wide

[spice spire]

So rows are my favorite atm since they’re the ones I’m most ginger with

[keen spruce]

[fallow canopy]

I have a veteran skardyn laughing at me everytime I open my inventory

[spice spire]

General I’m probably just a bro at heart and just say deadlift or bench

[tropic tundra]

606 bros

[keen spruce]

I don't bench

cuz i don't wanna get squished

and my chest is weak

[tropic tundra]

[coral ibex]

pain

[keen spruce]

i just do machine press

[loud brook]

Hello. What gear do i upgrade?

[tropic tundra]

well

we dont know about your gear but

mostly mainhand and trinket

[spice spire]

Start with dumbbells. I did 25s when I started late last year

[keen spruce]

tru tru

[waxen oyster]

639/636 weps now

[keen spruce]

dumbless gud

[tropic tundra]

pog

[waxen oyster]

need another bloodbound dag

[tropic tundra]

isnt offhand the least valuable upgrade

[spice spire]

And when I don’t have time to actually go gym I have dumbbells and a bench at my place

So I just use those

Range from 15-90s

[waxen oyster]

its just valorstones

[limber lion]

I don't envy my schedule

[waxen oyster]

i did funny bug

[limber lion]

If I had time to blast mythic, I probs would

[spice spire]

I don’t either

[keen spruce]

when I get my own place I'll probably get a bench setup and maybe a squat rack

[loud brook]

I have crafted dagger 619 ilvl and Hero track Shadow-Binding Ritual Knife and champion track Skardyn's grace

[spice spire]

Honestly

Once I get a bigger place

I’m going to squat rack

And cancel gym

[limber lion]

I could be home playing WoW...

Literally sitting here waiting for the 2nd set to start in this gig

[spice spire]

You can top gear and use your stuff to sim what the best upgrade is

[waxen oyster]

i didnt spent crests to make my offhand 636

[thorn fjord]

Live stream it!

[spice spire]

Yeah but your work is so fucking cool man

[tropic tundra]

I meant the gap from 636 into 639 but you have a point

[dusty crescent]

2nd favorite is incline bench

[spice spire]

Big incline fan

Used to hate it when younger

[loud brook]

@spice spire is there a guide on how to sim everything

[spice spire]

These days hell yeah

!simming

[tropic tundra]

a lot

[keen spruce]

ye i normally just do incline on machine press

[spice spire]

Fuck

There used to be

[tropic tundra]

but its p intuitive nowadays

[keen rover]

!sim

[waxen oyster]

yeah likely low prio

[keen spruce]

makes u feel so weak

[keen rover]

Damn

[tropic tundra]

do you have the simulationcraft addon installed

[loud brook]

yes

[dusty crescent]

currently on 345 for 5 on incline bench

can't get to 6

:C

[quasi swan]

is dungeon slice a good way to sim for m+? never really used it

[dusty crescent]

si

[spice spire]

[tropic tundra]

bene

[spice spire]

That’s a large man

[fallow canopy]

he's an emperor

[spice spire]

345 for 5 incline

[dusty crescent]

muscular everything but beer belly

[spice spire]

I’d be lucky to 3 rep

Getting there

[dusty crescent]

I'm a waiting for my powerlifting pro card

lmao

[waxen oyster]

tbh this early in a tier

champ track for stuff like cloak or bracers kind of w/e

[dusty crescent]

i don't use all those belts and straps tho... at least not yet... maybe one day

[spice spire]

My normal bench is only 385 so I think I’m about 150 off my powerlifting

[waxen oyster]

low prio for gildeds

[spice spire]

If I deadlifted anything over 5 bucks I would

Rn focusing on dropping weight while maintaining strength

[dusty crescent]

385, bruh you strong too

whatta DAWG

[limber lion]

Sorry private gig

[keen spruce]

[dusty crescent]

only one way to do it and it isn't based on diet >..>

[limber lion]

It really is :)

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-eddie-hall-hall-smile-eddie-hall-smile-gif-17041961640854193718

[spice spire]

I’m so jealous man

[keen spruce]

i didn't know fkin eddie played wow

[spice spire]

That man over doubles my dl wdym

[keen spruce]

just pull harder

[spice spire]

Probably not rn but in competition for mode

[limber lion]

500kg dl is pretty dank yeah

[spice spire]

Brother I need a belt if I’m going over that

[royal lantern]

i love highly visible green instant death circles on red ground

🙂

fuck me for beeing red-green weak right????

[spice spire]

5 wheels is a lot

[cobalt sphinx]

half of them just don't render

[dusty crescent]

i've never dl'd heavy enough to need a belt yet

dl's scare me

but sumo is cheating, i said it

[spice spire]

I’m a sumo enjoyer

[gray horizon]

i wonder if there are some color blind settings that could help

[spice spire]

Cheater

[spice spire]

Colorblind mode high key sucks

[dusty crescent]

but what about DEPTH!

GOTTA GET THE ROM

[spice spire]

Yeah I still drop low enough for ur pops to eat my ass bud

We’re gucci

[royal lantern]

wow colorblind settings dont do shit

source: i tried

[gray horizon]

RIP 😦

[spice spire]

(You don’t deserve that I’m sorry)

[stiff bronze]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[gray horizon]

Blizz has a weird obsession with bad color schemes

[spice spire]

Yes they do

[gray horizon]

Luckily it's not too bad in raid so far

[dusty crescent]

you've been hit with the sumo comment before

[gray horizon]

Broodtwister is kinda ehhhhhh though

Purple swirls on purple floor, yet again

[spice spire]

Few times eh

[dusty crescent]

i can see that lol

[dusty crescent]

i say it for meme, idc. I just want more people in gym

preferably everyone

[real birch]

trying to do better dps any suggestions https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WMpwHJP7zyQf6aK1#fight=23&type=damage-done

[dusty crescent]

the world at large is in abysmal shape

[spice spire]

Been doing a lot of wofh

Miss the gym

I mean I am too

I’m just aiming to be stronger

[loud patio]

which details profile is this

[spice spire]

@slate crown or @normal mist help thread pls

[gray horizon]

idk if i'm missing it, but you're opening wrong

[dusty crescent]

same but most people just are content with being weak and / or slovenly

[gray horizon]

you should use Ambush from stealth, not garrote

[dusty crescent]

es no bueno

[alpine oak]

how are rogues ? in keys and raid does outlaw do better or Sin

[gray horizon]

You're also using an AOE build on a ST fight

[quasi swan]

this channel is probably biased but with todays changes do you guys think outlaw is competetive or even better than assassination in m+?

[dusty crescent]

sin still better

huzzah!

[slate crown]

quikspeed Log Review

[arctic socket]

Man this needs to get changed asap

[nova aspen]

3 muts in a row?

[dusty crescent]

you watching a lot of kdramas?

[arctic socket]

Brother

[fallow canopy]

the cursed 2+2+2?

[arctic socket]

No ambush until 15 seconds from vanish

[subtle tundra]

you dont really cause you need craft off hand for ascension(if you care about raid prog)

[nova aspen]

ohh yea lol, im a coin flipper

[arctic socket]

No just anime

[austere bramble]

hi can anyone give insight into which build is better re: icyveins vs wowhead? icyveins recommends master assassin for ST while wowhead doesn't. Thank you in advance and have a blessed day

[raven bone]

That opener is a bit cursed tbf

[dusty crescent]

that adsense was giving me the BTS experience

didn't whispyr write both?

[raven bone]

giga yikes

[cinder quartz]

for silken tomb, do you vanish before tomb gets applied or after?

[fallow canopy]

I don't see it being recommended on the raid build tho

[spring moat]

any macro demigods here? looking for one that will '/yell I interupted y's X spell' but only if successfully kicked.

[fallow canopy]

seli does icyveins i think

[arctic socket]

Sim your character, and which ever one sims highest for you use that

[spice spire]

They overlap and interact. So it’s kind of a push. Seli does icy veins

MA kinda wonky atm probably not that build

[austere bramble]

I believe I was looking at "raid easy mode" perhaps this explains my confusion

[spice spire]

Yeah

Go into talents

[midnight mist]

wtf pog !

[spice spire]

It’s more specific

[spice spire]

L outlaw man

[keen spruce]

@real birch !pooling

[cinder quartz]

unnamed frenchman, hello

[spice spire]

Ur mastery sucks

[keen spruce]

!pool

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[keen spruce]

ffs

[midnight mist]

joke taking chest

big big

[coral ibex]

https://wago.io/Ww5JrPcqp

[spice spire]

Hate u sm

[orchid wind]

i feel like my aoe damage changed a lot , u guys sure it was only a 0.5% aoe buff lol

[spice spire]

Not actually

[spice spire]

Ur doing a lot more st

So if you’re looking at key logs

Yeah it’s a bit higher than 0.5%

[spice spire]

I do not

[dawn heath]

whelp

[dawn heath]

atleast these look cool

[coral ibex]

extremely based

i love ulduar drops

[undone flame]

can you add an socket to crafted items?

[dusty crescent]

i don't like you

[coral ibex]

wish i got a blood or wrathstone

[midnight mist]

thanks thanks

imagine if i played assa

[dawn heath]

lol

[cinder quartz]

go play roblox you zoomer

[dawn heath]

im playing with it as mog now

[dusty crescent]

where do i go to look at my logs in this manner?

[coral ibex]

casts

[dusty crescent]

..>

[coral ibex]

top right

[dusty crescent]

tfw i didn't open with ambush because of a messed up pull, but i got 98% on my log for ilvl

[coral ibex]

sorry its actually "Events"

[cinder quartz]

cast events my beloved

[dusty crescent]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a723bLyGhCpY49qV#fight=95&type=casts&source=15128&view=events
r/roastme

[jaunty kayak]

hey, im currently playing 2x vicious venoms, dashing and impr poisons on ST.. i want to try without VV at all and play impr garr.. but where to spend other talent points?

[thorn fjord]

@spice spire GM switched to private logs moving forward

No more fun for me

[gray horizon]

opening with garrote OOF

[tired gull]

the insta cloak+vial speaks to me

[coral ibex]

do you get gkicked if you upload personal logs or something

[dusty crescent]

i addressed that lol

[dusty crescent]

who needs private logs?!

[thorn fjord]

Would get in trouble yeah

[dusty crescent]

i was 6 double bourbons deep

i stood in something

[coral ibex]

wild that people have to be threatened to play for a clear instead of logs

[severe sparrow]

a long time ago i saw a thing about mh vs oh in terms of damage contribution, and the tldr was that (making up numbers) like 80% of your dps comes from your mh, so other slots usually better for upgrading before the oh assuming a similar ilvl. am i remembering this loosely correctly/does anyone have any better napkin math for me on numbers?

[thorn fjord]

Some people get caught up on logs and play worse

We're just trying to prog at this point... Got to brood on Sunday

[dusty crescent]

i just try to do better than last week....

[coral ibex]

yea i know why it happens but its just wild to me

[spice spire]

2 PIs and you missed the opening dsm

Oof

[dusty crescent]

if the initial pull wasn't f'd up i woulda opened correct maybe woulda got a 99 instead of 98 😮

[dusty crescent]

yes i did

[spice spire]

Could have been the juicer

Damn

[gray horizon]

10/10 name btw i'm going to the commanders/ravens game sunday

[dusty crescent]

I must do better, I don't wanna be looked down on by Diet pepsi

[dusty crescent]

TY 😄

[spice spire]

I look down on no one

We’re all here to learn

[royal lantern]

got the same chest armor in my vault

[spice spire]

I’m an ape

[midnight mist]

I know

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/mongy-monke-monge-cute-cleaning-gif-27532745

[spice spire]

Buddy they call me a gorilla the way I got the grip ya feel me

[dusty crescent]

ok ok how about THIS gold parse i did

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a723bLyGhCpY49qV#fight=106&type=casts&source=15128&view=events

[zealous crag]

Did you know if wax is still bugged when we die ?

[dusty crescent]

not to my knowledge

[mint valve]

is bubbling wax only supposed to be that much of your damagee?

[coral ibex]

its around 0.8% for me

could be bugged for you if you died

[mint valve]

whats the numerical value fory ou

that was an ara kara

if you ahve anything similar?

[dusty crescent]

i'm at work, i don't have any info

iirc mine was like 1%

[coral ibex]

same here

[mint valve]

damn...

bubbling wax only on mainhand right?

[dusty crescent]

yeh

[coral ibex]

yes

[dusty crescent]

@spice spire proper ambush opener no booly

[spice spire]

You overcapped a little higher than average and fucked up your dam at 3:02

Dsm *

Good log tho

[novel star]

[dusty crescent]

i'm dense, explain where I overcapped?

[gray horizon]

I'm super guilty of that combo right there lol

[spice spire]

Huh

[dusty crescent]

what's wrong with this?

[gray horizon]

DM -> Shiv -> KB

[novel star]

shiv dm instead of dm shiv

[spice spire]

Oh that’s like

[novel star]

fake issue mostly

[dusty crescent]

oh really?

[spice spire]

Not a real issue as long as they’re global for global lapping

[novel star]

i’m just shidposting

[spice spire]

Otherwise you can have a weird situation where your dm ends milliseconds before kb if you dm > shiv > kb

[dusty crescent]

okay good cuz it's muscle memory now lol

[spice spire]

But that’s only if they’re stopped due to lack of energy

[vernal snow]

I am new to assa, do I play the wowhead ST Raid spec on all bosses in raid? or m+ spec sometimes too

[vale shore]

I play the M+ spec on Broodtwister

and all the trash of course

[novel star]

only ever st in heroic

[gray horizon]

ST raid works 99% of the time, but change to caustic spatter on any fight with adds

[dusty crescent]

what did you mean by overcapped? I prob need some coaching ngl.... I wanna get better

[novel star]

if you’re progging mythic brood you can change to crimson tempest and that’s it

[vernal snow]

okay thx guys 🙂

[novel star]

the bottom right talents are hard griefing

[spice spire]

So like

[novel star]

in raid

[spice spire]

It’s super minimal

[novel star]

do not ever

[spice spire]

But

That’s just higher than Avg for 3m

[dusty crescent]

ah okay

[spice spire]

If I’m looking at a gold

I gotta find what I can

But sometimes shit is unavoidable

[gray horizon]

what is this view

[dusty crescent]

you're explaining the diff between a 97 parse and a pottentil 99 or 100 parse i get you

[gray horizon]

i wanna look at mien

[novel star]

resources tab or smth

[spice spire]

Resources > energy

[waxen oyster]

honestly

[spice spire]

combo points

[waxen oyster]

its a mix of caustic being so strong

[spice spire]

Are the two common things to look at

[waxen oyster]

and internal bleeding just being meh

[halcyon hamlet]

finally fixed my logs today, dont look at my sub

[gray horizon]

ty ty

[harsh anchor]

I died on bloodbound and haven’t been in for reclears since 😦

[spice spire]

[dusty crescent]

surprised i wasted a KB, i'm assuming it's because i KB'd right before the dash

[spice spire]

Probably

[halcyon hamlet]

sadge

[dusty crescent]

not a fan of that boss

chasing that hoe down

[halcyon hamlet]

i fuckin love that fight

[gray horizon]

that's what shadowstep is for 🙂

[dusty crescent]

sure sure but it's still losing time

gotta wait till the last charge is over but you've lost like 3s while it's charging 4 ppl

[waxen oyster]

just hope its not on the edge

else you might fall off

[spice spire]

Never edge

[thorn fjord]

Blow that load

[dusty crescent]

edging before lifting increases strength

there's been studies

[waxen oyster]

T release?

[dusty crescent]

yeah

essentially

gives more free use test

get that water right up to the Dam

[spice spire]

Not tryna nut in the gym ya feel me

[dusty crescent]

what nah

do in priv of home bud lol

you don't complete the coursework

you leave it for later

[novel star]

i always do piss dam on kyveza

cant figure it out

i wanna 99!!!!!

[thorn fjord]

You never go out with a loaded gun though

[dusty crescent]

I live in west virginia, i always have a loaded gun

[thorn fjord]

I live in FL 😛

[dusty crescent]

closest i got is 98 :C

[dusty crescent]

love the pfp. i love ATHF

[novel star]

my kyveza is a 97

queen too i think

cant pump

joever

[dusty crescent]

ironically my worst is ulgrax

[spice spire]

My mh is still 615.
0 hope tn

We grind the weapon this weekend

[waxen oyster]

kyveza 100 is likely

be over 625 ilvl

get no mechanic

[novel star]

i was like 623 in my 97

did get mechanic tho

but

i think i’m just piss on that fight

i always lose gcds when intermission ends

cus attack range shrink

[dusty crescent]

i think i can get a 99 or 100 on bloodbound if i work on some stuff

for my ilvl*

[novel star]

i guess you step there?

[dusty crescent]

me?

[novel star]

no like

just in general

i guess you could step at kyveza intermishy end

[spice spire]

Yes

[dusty crescent]

yeah i do but if i'm not prepped to move and dps same time i'll lose 1 or 2 gcds when it's running to tank

[tired gull]

pugging is so fun

[novel star]

think o legit lose like 2 every time

[arctic socket]

Step up

Or doing enough

[novel star]

i could have probably 99d hc horror yesterday but i was fixing the solo adds instead of getting spatter value

don’t trust ranged players

[dusty crescent]

I just stay on boss and adapt aoe rotation when the adds are nearby

i'm scum

[novel star]

[spice spire]

This is cursed

[hearty reef]

Hmmmm aoe breakdown is funky

[novel star]

[dusty crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-man-smoking-rain-raining-gif-25228231

this me when i raid with casual guild

5+ players doing sub 300k dps

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-dog-bang-gif-18192743

[novel star]

was having this experience

left

[dusty crescent]

but they are nice and it's only day i can raid

[novel star]

[waxen oyster]

i did lfr ansurek on my alt

[tired gull]

last week my guild had to sit players when they got to heroic brood

[novel star]

wtf

[dusty crescent]

they're chill

[waxen oyster]

highest dam as vdh

[dusty crescent]

i can only raid saturdays

[thorn fjord]

Everyones fps dropping like flies 😛

[novel star]

ah

yeah that’s unlucky

[dusty crescent]

if there was a high level maybe 5-6 hr raid night gropup i'd join it

work 6 days a week

[tired gull]

back in wrath i raided saturday mornings, was like watching cartoons but dragons instead

[dusty crescent]

i cant wait to have my moochicken alt

[novel star]

no one raids on sat

worst possible day lmao

[hushed maple]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[novel star]

tragic

[tired gull]

ton of guilds raid sat

[dusty crescent]

mon-fri 5-4 sat 7-12

then i got church and family sunday

and rest

i only have sat eve :C

[novel star]

joever

[dusty crescent]

i'll try and slowly pug mythic

that's all i can do

[novel star]

real? feel like i never see it

[waxen oyster]

all the offending auras were on my alts

afenar wa

[dusty crescent]

tell them i'm a dawg, and they should recruit me

[tired gull]

they're usually not that great, but i have a bunch of friends that raid on saturdays, not like CE guilds or anything typically

[dusty crescent]

quazzi has a interview with a world 100 guild that raids 8 hrs a week sat and sunday 4+4

it's doable but everyone has to be biggusdickus

[waxen oyster]

thing is if you raid that high end on 8 hrs

you likely spend alot more time in keys

and strat prep

[honest needle]

is caustic spatter broken ? its not working ?

[dusty crescent]

i love keysss

[tired gull]

how is it not working?

[novel star]

works fine

[waxen oyster]

NA guilds rarely raid sundays

[novel star]

where are you having issues

[honest needle]

i have bleeds on the target and when i mutilate

[dusty crescent]

wish i could find a 5stack to do keys with all the time

[honest needle]

its not putting caustic on

[waxen oyster]

I’ve noticed

[tired gull]

silly question, but are you spec'd into caustic?

[dusty crescent]

Lord's day

[honest needle]

i am

[novel star]

^ same question lol

[waxen oyster]

Isn’t EU religious too

[arctic socket]

Do you have caustic spec’d and you have rupture up?

[novel star]

caustic works fine

[dusty crescent]

it applies every 10s no?

[honest needle]

yes i have it up

[novel star]

do you have poisons on

[arctic socket]

Caustic? Reapplys itself every time you press multi

[waxen oyster]

are we talking rash

[novel star]

target has to be poisoned + ruptured

[dusty crescent]

you tab targetting, maybe you getting lost in the sauce

oh lol

[novel star]

LOLL

[waxen oyster]

how do you play assa

[dusty crescent]

there ya go

[waxen oyster]

without poisons

[honest needle]

lmfao

[strange python]

you should quit and wait for DF classic

[novel star]

ok no worries then

[waxen oyster]

dont you notice very fast

[dusty crescent]

he's a outlaw rogue

atheart

[honest needle]

i am

lol

[arctic socket]

Outlaw rogues play with poisons

As well

[waxen oyster]

Honestly outlaw is fine this season

[rotund oak]

kekw

[waxen oyster]

if your tank doesnt pull big

[dusty crescent]

in order of importance tho

[arctic socket]

Also get a weakaura that screams at you

[honest needle]

pulls are 2 big and 5 target cap sucks

[dusty crescent]

outlaw barely cares about it

[tired gull]

definitely working

[waxen oyster]

8

[arctic socket]

Outlaw definitely cares a lot about it

[tired gull]

also, sin without poisons feels real bad, miss out on that regen

[dusty crescent]

in comparison to assa

[arctic socket]

With the raid buff + damage combo

[dusty crescent]

who cares more

that's what i mean not that you shouldn't use them

[bleak spoke]

honestly i think a lot of it is like, being in a raid where the portals are dropped properly so you don't have to ever move off the boss

[arctic socket]

Sub

[dusty crescent]

sorry was being facetious

[waxen oyster]

also cant proc wax

without poisons on

[arctic socket]

You’re still using wax

[dusty crescent]

sub cares more than assa eh?\

[arctic socket]

Instead of stones?

[waxen oyster]

only in meme content

[arctic socket]

Yeah

[waxen oyster]

like keys

[charred salmon]

whats the best talent choice for raid now?

[dusty crescent]

somehow i doubt

[arctic socket]

Go ask

[waxen oyster]

sub and outlaw instant poison is just

free 2-3% dam

[arctic socket]

@waxen oyster Don’t ruin the troll 😭

[bleak spoke]

wait kind of interesting question

for ppl with the ansurek ring

if you talent dark brew

[dusty crescent]

i just wanted to see how far you'd go lol

[bleak spoke]

does it fuck it up

[dusty crescent]

You were willing to deep, and that's admirable

[bleak spoke]

LOL

[novel star]

between what options

[waxen oyster]

all 5 people that play sub buddy

[bleak spoke]

of the 5 remaining subtlety players none of them have talented dark brew since dragonflight i understand

[arctic socket]

Sim your character, use whichever build sims the highest in single target

[waxen oyster]

its worse isnt it

[novel star]

like imp gar vs venoms? they’re the same

[bleak spoke]

but i also don't have an ansurek ring so i can't try it myself

[arctic socket]

Then swap out internal bleeding for caustic on aoe fights

Win

[waxen oyster]

yeah not high on prio

[dusty crescent]

i wish i could get into sub i just can't

[waxen oyster]

for it

[dusty crescent]

i only like assa

don't like outlaw either

[tired gull]

i only like your assa

[dusty crescent]

even though i have fist and trinket 2set

[arctic socket]

In a couple days now sub is becoming a meme

[bleak spoke]

i think it's just an interesting question that would give insight to like, what order the procs go in etc

[dusty crescent]

anytime you wanna grab it, hall pass ❤️

[waxen oyster]

never seen the fist drop

well

[bleak spoke]

whether it's on hit or if abilities were whitelisted

[tired gull]

[bleak spoke]

etc

[waxen oyster]

one of our socials has it

[dusty crescent]

mines 623

[waxen oyster]

thats it

[bleak spoke]

i think? one of the rogues in my guild has it, i'll ask later probably

[dusty crescent]

i'll never get to use it, cuz i'm entirely geared for assa, makes no sense to less dmg for a 2set for memes

[waxen oyster]

surprised they had prio

[novel star]

i got the fist yesterday

[waxen oyster]

if not maining outlaw

[novel star]

will never play outlaw

[bleak spoke]

i've been goin to 2 splits a week since raid opened, one of them better fucking have it

[dusty crescent]

i got it in a pug run

[bleak spoke]

(big helper since retiring kek)

[novel star]

i don’t think the other rogues play outlaw either

so it was really just whoever the fucj

[dusty crescent]

why do outlaw when assa do trick

[waxen oyster]

i think enh doesnt play contract

iirc

[dusty crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-smile-grin-happy-excited-gif-20256037

[bleak spoke]

i swear our splits have been getting worse and worse every week

[waxen oyster]

they’ve never been a fan of damage proc trinket iirc

[bleak spoke]

but i might be part of the problem

[waxen oyster]

unless trinket in question is severely overtuned

[bleak spoke]

everyone's started bringing trap alts

[dusty crescent]

it's cool looking when it procs tho

[bleak spoke]

it's weird that enhance doesn't like proc stuff

[waxen oyster]

and crit is pretty bad for enh

[bleak spoke]

you would think they hit alot

[waxen oyster]

i think?

they just benefit more from stats

[bleak spoke]

yeh

[waxen oyster]

if memory serves

[spice spire]

Dog you can’t say this in 2024

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812077605229428739/1284880173157847143/fatasswizardcastslightning.gif

[waxen oyster]

i love when someone pulls up

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/fb8UCGY.png explain to me how i should refer to this

[waxen oyster]

on the sub 600 ilvl rat

and asks for every curio

[spice spire]

Demonic

Nvm carry on

[autumn remnant]

wtf my logs

[spice spire]

Rat doesn’t even cover this

[cinder quartz]

actually its destro

[bleak spoke]

that's literally me on my warlock

[spice spire]

Call this mf a New Yorker

[waxen oyster]

your mog needs work

demobeam drip lacking

[spice spire]

That’s why the parse is so low

[arctic socket]

Wild for that statement

[spice spire]

New York rats diff

[bleak spoke]

to be fair split1 i play my rogue and i only troll on ansurek (actual hardware issue)

[spice spire]

Those Mfs will mug

[novel star]

surely they’re dying right no way that’s real grey

[cinder quartz]

put me in coach

[waxen oyster]

i once played dh in an alt run

almost dashed into center of circle

twice same attempt

[spice spire]

Based name

[novel star]

stop flexing trinkets i’m gonna kms

[arctic socket]

Doodoo trinkets

Contact stinky

Mandate normal? Go next

[spice spire]

I’m rocking grace and deadeye fwiw

[bleak spoke]

we got 3 heroic transmitters in split1 yesterday, maybe we stop doing it

[waxen oyster]

contract doesnt hit bloodbound

[bleak spoke]

still missing 6 spymasters

[waxen oyster]

i guess weird hitbox

[bleak spoke]

which is crazy

like

[dusty crescent]

neither of these are skardyns

my trinkets are trash

[bleak spoke]

how do you do 3 weeks of 2 sets of splits each and miss 6 spymasters

like how

[waxen oyster]

we barely get transmitters

[bleak spoke]

is that even

fucking

POSSIBLE

[arctic socket]

To be fair tho those trinkets are fine

[bleak spoke]

MAN

[novel star]

dude mine are ovinax egg and sacbrood

[quasi estuary]

Leveling my alt and feeling overwhelmed with cd buttons. Is it possible to macro some of them like for example kingsbane with tea and such?

[dusty crescent]

bis trinkiesss

[novel star]

i have legit ballsack build

[spice spire]

Bald

[novel star]

on my trinkets

[spice spire]

Nah I want mandate so bad

Horny for it

[waxen oyster]

No

[spice spire]

Barking for it even

[arctic socket]

Dog?

[dusty crescent]

i'll trade you for skardyns

deal?

[novel star]

how else do u refer to double egg

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/f5c72jK.png we do a bit of trollin in our splits

[waxen oyster]

Honestly

[spice spire]

Normal? Miss me w that

[arctic socket]

Send me a video of you barking and I will give Tyou my mandate

[waxen oyster]

cosmetic sets are such a blessing

[arctic socket]

Testicle build

[spice spire]

Tempting actually

[waxen oyster]

because mail mogs

are not heat

[spice spire]

But you’re kind of a sicko and I’m not here to fuel degen

[waxen oyster]

i still remember

week 1 of this tier

i saw a fury warrior with a normal warbound kyveza fist

and a 2h in his offhand

[bleak spoke]

LMFAO

[arctic socket]

He was pumping

I bet

[dusty crescent]

i haven't finished upgrading it

[frigid pilot]

does this breakdown of a 9 grim batol look ok? i checked logs some ppl got caustic and envenom their biggest dmg

[waxen oyster]

yeah solid 300k dps on a pack of 6 mobs

during cds

[bleak spoke]

with this one trick you can get no value out of titan's grip OR singleminded fury!

[waxen oyster]

almost df numbers

[dusty crescent]

sounds like a gamer

[waxen oyster]

I saw an outlaw rogue with no kir or ho talented

[dusty crescent]

sometimes i focus caustic hard and it ends up being 4th highest, other times it's my number one

[turbid ridge]

What embellishments do I use for the wrists and waist? Is it Dawnthread Lining for both? I've seen some people use Dawnthread Lining for one, and then Writhing Armor Banding for the other

[waxen oyster]

normal raids and low keys have some demonic shit

[bleak spoke]

err, my spatter was still on top of most of the keys i was doin, followed by garrote/ct tradinig places dependin on the key, in a handful of 10s yesterday

[novel star]

dawnthread both

[runic hinge]

that was me

[bleak spoke]

to be fair though i am nelf and i am melding for it

on cd

[tough widget]

whats the set piece slots we want again?

[bleak spoke]

so mileage might vary

[turbid ridge]

Okay, thank you! Just wanted to double check

[waxen oyster]

env beats spatter for me

in most keys

[frigid pilot]

interesting

[novel star]

avoid chest i think

[frigid pilot]

the warrior did have massive pulls

like 7-10 mobs

5 locks, hpala wasnt too fond of that

[bleak spoke]

i think the bigger the pulls the more bleeds pull ahead probably

but if they're really clean spatter obvs

[novel star]

but it’s not like a big deal

[wise socket]

you want shoulder/head/gloves/legs

[dusty crescent]

my rogue is spoopy

[waxen oyster]

i mean ct on high target counts

does some illegal dam

[bleak spoke]

ct is very good yeah

[dusty crescent]

ct often my highest

ngl

[waxen oyster]

keys too low

[bleak spoke]

i think i play around the mark too much

like

[waxen oyster]

sometimes i rush into kb spattering

on below 10s

[bleak spoke]

i feel like i shouldn't be hitting env so much

[dusty crescent]

i can barely get into 7sman

people don't invite me T.T

[bleak spoke]

but i get minidopamine dump when i proc a tdn

[waxen oyster]

I mean

im 626 bags