assassination

[waxen oyster]

ask simcraft

topgear it

[grim jay]

Crystal should be better than that crappy knife

Idk

[honest needle]

im trying its been loading for 20 mins

[grim jay]

The knife aint BiS

[waxen oyster]

knife is more mainstat

[balmy condor]

knife is basically equal to the crystal

[waxen oyster]

if you dont get the negative

at shit times

[chilly mist]

How is the negative side of knife calculated in sims, is it forced to occur during cds at any point or how is it done?

[spring sigil]

If you get a +8 key from the vault are you just better off dropping it to a +7?

[grim jay]

For me knife simmed lower, comparing mythic crystal vs heroic knife and crystal has no negative

[balmy condor]

knife is really good

[fast mural]

RaShan Back 639 any good?

[copper monolith]

about to hit 2k io

[royal lantern]

? thats the best Part

did some major fuckup and dmg is bad? "ye, knife procced during CDs"

[calm garnet]

Transmitter will better unless you get hero wrathstone

[waxen oyster]

its a 639 cloak with a free defensive buff

[tough trail]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[waxen oyster]

assuming you have hc transmitter yes

[fast mural]

True with bad stats

[waxen oyster]

"bad stats"

as assa

[royal lantern]

there are no bad stats

[fast mural]

???

[chilly mist]

i mean full mastery stack in st is not great

[waxen oyster]

why would you ever full stack mastery

dented

[fast mural]

No you need about 10% haste

8-10

[balmy condor]

???

[runic hinge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[waxen oyster]

brother

[shy pecan]

Wut

[waxen oyster]

10% haste

[royal lantern]

outlaw brains

[balmy condor]

we just making up numbers now

[royal lantern]

i swear

[waxen oyster]

are you thinking outlaw

[chilly mist]

im still optimizing my raid gear coming from mainly playing m+

[royal lantern]

34% crit will never die

[waxen oyster]

the gear is the same

[royal lantern]

same gear

[fast mural]

Surely how much haste you need

[royal lantern]

ilvl = gg

[chilly mist]

I mean no

[waxen oyster]

haste doesnt do anything special

[grim jay]

0

[waxen oyster]

unless you're outlaw and your gcd gets fucked without it

[chilly mist]

dungeons swing alot more towards mastery

[fast mural]

For st you need 0 ?

[royal lantern]

no

jesus

what are you talking about

[waxen oyster]

smartest wow player

[grim jay]

For everything you need 0, you just sim your gear

[golden loom]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[grim jay]

There are no specific amounts of anything needed

[waxen oyster]

kind of person who gets greens and blames it on stats

[fast mural]

brothers i sim my gear and i am teling you

[chilly mist]

feel like you guys are kinda trolling

[fast mural]

you need about 8-10 %

For pure ST

[royal lantern]

you take highest ilvl, if everything is equal ilvl you sim for those I N S A N E 200dps

the end, you learned gearing as assa

[waxen oyster]

I mean the guidewriter literally told you

your number is made up

[balmy condor]

nah

[gloomy otter]

is it to equip 2 on-use trinkets?

[balmy condor]

he doesn't care for that

it's just doomed

[shy pecan]

He wants those two extra GCDs real bad

[grim jay]

So you do something character specific and therefore you confidently say everyone needs what your result says

I have less than 8%

With 626 ilvl

[fast mural]

Talking about me:D

[grim jay]

And many gear pieces available

[gloomy otter]

i got skardyns grace and dead eye spyglass on champion , but now got treacherour trannsmitter on hero , do i wanna switch skardy?

[fast mural]

i have more with 628

[royal lantern]

im pretty sure i have like 20% haste with 623 lmao

[waxen oyster]

i dont even remember what my haste

because it doesnt matter

[grim jay]

Goes to show that not everyone needs whatever %

[royal lantern]

same, idk my numbers, just remember my haste beeing kinda high

[sharp viper]

stop arguing with logic

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[fast mural]

Ye relax guys

I just said what my simc says

[grim jay]

I have that stat weakaura since ages

[balmy condor]

I mean if you show up and say "you need X% stat" and 5 people including the tc/guide writer go "lmao wtf", the first response should be introspective, not quintupling down on knowing some secret tech no one has ever heard of

but ya know

it ain't worth the effort

[royal lantern]

i know the secret tech

sub ability

[blazing jewel]

!gems

[balmy condor]

best I can do is say "incorrect"

and if it's still a double down then like whatever I guess L me

[shy pecan]

!scana

[steel ridge]

secret sauce 8-10% haste

[kindred hinge]

There is a big difference in having a sim where your particular combination of gear make haste interesting and a blanket statement that you need 8-10% Haste. There is no correlation there, you do best with your gear and that's about it

[royal lantern]

!moochi

[steel ridge]

write that Down

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

not gonna try and spend my time trying to convince someone who doesn't want to be convinced

[shy pecan]

Not worth the energy for sure

[golden loom]

sounds like you need more haste

[pliant remnant]

He was just using the royal "you" to refer to himself

[fast mural]

Guys you feeling ok ? You kinda attack me cause i said 8-10%?

[drifting cloud]

retired scana always in assa channel

[pliant remnant]

It's a new thing, get with it

[grim jay]

Energy is always worth, especially the ultra paradise Monster

[fast mural]

I mean ok it is what it is

procced

[shy pecan]

EW.

[kindred hinge]

He is doubling down with no self awareness.. yeah no point

[brisk path]

you guys are gettng haste?

[grim jay]

No, because you said People NEED whatever certain amount which is misinformation, we dont do that here and dont tolerate it either

[blazing jewel]

I am very bored okay

[grim jay]

Based, you are close to the magical crit number

[grim jay]

@balmy condor quick, ban that guy

[pliant remnant]

Fuck bitches get crit

[shy pecan]

Whispyr would never ban me (unless I did something real bad)

[grim jay]

You "ew"ed Monster

And the best one at that

[shy pecan]

Yeah

Get fucked

[subtle relic]

Any US chads been pumpin on reset? How do things feel?

[grim jay]

They feel a few % better in ST

[tough widget]

guys is sacbrood actually good, or do i stay in the grim batol and dawnbreaker simulation to get these?

[subtle relic]

Pogpog

[pliant remnant]

Not a US chad so I guess I won't answer

[royal lantern]

sacbrood/dawnbreaker trinket are more or less equal

[grim jay]

Sim, but its up there with them. Ilvl alone makes it better than what you can farm

[runic hinge]

go outside

[royal lantern]

and ye, ilvl alone carries it

[grim jay]

And everything else you have isnt worth more

[subtle relic]

Sim imo, will probably be outsimming dawn i think

[royal lantern]

the legs are a drop from the First mythic Boss

so like, you can get them anyway if you have them in vault

[tough widget]

ty guys ❤️

[waxen oyster]

i mean....

even if you farm gb/dawnbraeker

[eager ibex]

whats the spec this week, aoe shiv?

[waxen oyster]

hero track is still 13 ilvls below

a vault trinket

[waxen oyster]

why would it ever change

[blazing jewel]

[tough widget]

hm i actually simmed - and it is giving me 140 dps increase 😮

[eager ibex]

because its a new patch @waxen oyster

[waxen oyster]

it isnt

[eager ibex]

we got nerfs and tier buffs

[waxen oyster]

That's a hotfix

......

[eager ibex]

ur annoying

[waxen oyster]

You provide no basis for why the talent would change.

[jaunty matrix]

is transmitter good for raid ?

[eager ibex]

just answer the question yes or no, no need to be a dick

[waxen oyster]

good dps? Yes
Good for your sanity? No

[jaunty matrix]

hmm

[rotund oak]

sharded my hc transmitter

[waxen oyster]

You lack any critical thinking to why the talents would change

[agile geode]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[golden loom]

The pinned comment is also pretty useful 🙂

[waxen oyster]

People getting upset when you tell them to think logically

are so funny

transmitter is good if you get forced to play sub

[maiden bear]

is ovinax egg simbait or is it actually that good?

[waxen oyster]

1.5min spec likes 1.5min trinket

[royal lantern]

idk how you use it good, standing still for max effect sounds unusable

[rotund oak]

no need to change anything unless u plan specific keys(and higher keys for taht matter).There are rogues that literally go ST build with spatter on 13+14s coz the group covers everything else but highly doubt this applies here

[waxen oyster]

sap

[terse orchid]

Fellas, skardyn's grace+spyglass or skardyn's grace+mad queen's mandate for m+? Sims tell me spyglass is better (it's also myth track vs hero track mandate), but i don't know how/if the sims factor in the reset mechanic of mandate

[waxen oyster]

if someone needs to ask this shit

i doubt they even do 10s

in lfg

xD

[shy pecan]

You’d be surprised

[rotund oak]

true,its highly unlikely

[waxen oyster]

Oh yes i've seen some absolute creatures

in pugs

I think about these people can vote

and it scares me

[balmy condor]

"its fort week"

[shy pecan]

[zinc frost]

Did a weekly 10 mists with a frost dk that did 900k overall at 620ilvl made me want to stab my eyes out

[rotund oak]

sim urself friend,my sims say mandate for like 1.8% over myth track spyglass.Mandate is quite nuts

[normal mist]

Good morning to every nerd out here

[waxen oyster]

hey man

[normal mist]

Including me

[waxen oyster]

sometimes you need to put your toddler on a character

[rotund oak]

morning bb

[waxen oyster]

and fdk works for that

[grim jay]

I doubt they factor it in but its also not reliable in any way

[eager ibex]

Thanks for this answer! appreciated 🙂

[rotund oak]

u r welcome friend

[waxen oyster]

ngl mandate likely varies on how good you are at sniping it

[rotund oak]

yup

it can get rly crazy

im cookin' it on my mage

its rly fun

[runic hinge]

crazy? I was crazy once

[oak eagle]

they locked me in a room

[grim jay]

After a week of usage I finally found out its ranged

[warm vortex]

Time for vault, please just give MqM, poisoned ring or gb trink

[rotund oak]

[waxen oyster]

i mean ranged can use it

can you imagine the terrorism

if it were melee range only

[grim jay]

There were int trinkets with melee range

[waxen oyster]

i dont want ranged apes

in melee

holy fk

its already bad enough confident minmaxers

[snow kiln]

What is generally the worst tier set piece for Assa?

[waxen oyster]

come to melee

[rotund oak]

chest

[runic hinge]

chest but its very close

[snow kiln]

I got crit mastery chest on myth, so I could convert it to tier, or get a helm instead

That is not on myth track yet

[waxen oyster]

realistic answer is the entirely based on your rng

[rotund oak]

should sim the difference friend

no answer there

[snow kiln]

Will do

[terse orchid]

guess i'll just stick to spyglass. Touch of death gameplay on monk made me wanna puke so mandate wouldn't make me happy either haha

[faint path]

Dude buff is obvious btw literally

[grim jay]

Its def a sim question. I use the tier chest even with all 5 pieces on heroic/myth

And an off piece head instead

[rotund oak]

yup it is,did some stuff,we do more ST dmg

[edgy gull]

Tried sub but coming back to sin, I'm sorry for ever leaving. Quick question......If I've got a pocket PI is it better to spec into sanguine blades and shrouded/more bleed in raid?

[waxen oyster]

You guys get PI?

i only get PI in pugs from priests in the worst specs to be a recipient

like outlaw

or a fucking tank

[grim jay]

Can sim that. Some time ago sanguine was better with PI, but VV wasnt a thing then

[faint path]

Dudeee in raid Im pumping asfff

[balmy condor]

you can sim that by just enabling pi in top gear, but short answer is not really

[honest needle]

is crystal trinket better or knife i have both at 619 ? they both sim differently every time i sim

[faint path]

I was never pumping that much

[terse orchid]

Only reason i bring my loser priest friend anywhere tbh

[waxen oyster]

you bring priests for grips

[fringe crater]

I assume it's always the neck here, not the trinket

[waxen oyster]

granted with how floorpov hpriest players are

that might be a bad idea

[rotund oak]

neck is big yup but sim it just to be sure

[chilly mist]

Yup, + the trinket is farmable

[grim jay]

My hpriest is actually good

[fringe crater]

indeed

[grim jay]

[warm vortex]

plus ,uch harder to get than everything else there

[fringe crater]

that's what i figured

[edgy gull]

Short answer is all I needed to save me some time later. Cheers man

[waxen oyster]

i wonder

does neck actually make a noticeable difference in healer mana

once you get alot

[terse orchid]

Only grips i need is Death Grips

[fringe crater]

I play a lot with a resto shaman in m+, and they are fairly mana hungry, so I guess it's noticable for them?

[waxen oyster]

only grips i need are redacted because nsfw

[honest needle]

what wpuld u guys use crystal or knife trinket and i have ara-kara trinket

[rotund oak]

thx again for the numerical buff update :3

[reef blade]

Guess I should take boots for ilvl ? My second ring is crit/haste tho

[grim jay]

Whatever sims higher

[distant hinge]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[honest needle]

@grim jay they sim differently ever time i sim

[waxen oyster]

only one myth track item

and no very rares

[warm vortex]

for fucks sake

week after week no trink

[waxen oyster]

chest or cloak

[grim jay]

That doesnt sound right unless really close

[waxen oyster]

transmitter if you hate yourself

[rotund oak]

thats a willing torture

[grim jay]

So like most people

[waxen oyster]

sap

[heavy canopy]

Myth Ara-Kara or Hero Skardyn's? 😩

[warm vortex]

Alreadt got cloak so i guess i can upgrade my chest piece from hero to myth

[waxen oyster]

we have seen 0 warpblades in our raid

[grim jay]

Branch was worse and we played that shit for long

[waxen oyster]

except one of our socials got one from normal

ok hot take

[wide sleet]

Rerolled back to rogue for guild this reset. So how good is spyglass hmm

[rotund oak]

if u arent bored farming skardyns take sac

[waxen oyster]

i didnt think branch was bad

[warm vortex]

Yesterday people were like posting all their skyar graces

[oak eagle]

you for sure go arakara

[waxen oyster]

unless you tried to play it on tindral

[rotund oak]

if u are bored take skadryns,its bis

[waxen oyster]

in opener

[oak eagle]

because you might not see that again

[royal lantern]

a trinket that is only avaible trought heavy vault rng, or a trinket that you can literally drop like that

HMMMMMM....

[grim jay]

Yeah all 10 of the thousands

[oak eagle]

while you can farm a grim batol hero track trink

[waxen oyster]

we got double hc sik neck

[heavy canopy]

I've farmed for Skardyn's for a week straight now, haven't seen it drop once... One button, and I'm done doing Grim Butthole...

[waxen oyster]

this reset

[jaunty matrix]

do i hate myself enough to pick transmitter

hmm

[royal lantern]

Psychopath

[jaunty matrix]

its also bis trinket for sub

[oak eagle]

take the myth track trink

[jaunty matrix]

hmm

choices choices choices

[oak eagle]

you might never see it again for the rest of the season

transmitter dookie

[heavy canopy]

True, I know it's the right choice, I'm just in denial. Another week of Skardyn farming 🙌

[oak eagle]

hey youll get it eventually

[jaunty matrix]

eh fk it

il wait for after the raid to decide

[chilly mist]

If you pick Skardyn's vault, it will drop your next Grim batol, and you'll want to perform seppuku

[warm vortex]

how good would people say this gear is so far

[dawn elm]

Ovinax egg trinket

[nova summit]

Hi ! Does anyone know if StatWeight in raidbot is still relevent ? And if not where can I find bis stats % for assa rogue ? I can't find it in the Whipsyr guide

[dawn elm]

Talk to me

[deep breach]

is follow the blood looking any more viable now with this weeks buff?

[heavy canopy]

So true 😩

[dawn elm]

Yay or ney

[runic hinge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[copper monolith]

yay i just got 2k

[nova summit]

❤️

[copper monolith]

god that was stressful af

[shy pecan]

They aren’t because stats are always changing based on what you equip. That’s why it’s best to sim.

[nova summit]

Alright, it's more about what should I pick in raid and not sim every time but I'll stick to it. Thanks alot

[warm vortex]

Game make this shit vault up for me by giving me spymasters on druid

pray

[mental obsidian]

Hello, Bubbling Wax on One or Both weapons?

[copper monolith]

honestly, i might be done for the season after killing heroic queen and now just getting 2k mythic+

i dont want to even try mythic raiding

[shy pecan]

The !stats command gives a general idea, but again, will vary based on character to character

[honest needle]

what should my envenom uptime be in m+

[runic hinge]

you can sim droptimizer and it'll give you %increases for items

[night cipher]

but portals, sir

[copper monolith]

eh, i don't need em, I had more fun in season 3 and 4 in DF than I did in S1 now.

[night cipher]

and wow anniversary

[copper monolith]

i want to, but i think im just mentally fatigued from the mythic+ing lol

[honest needle]

does this expansion seem more popular then dragon flight ?

[night cipher]

and MAYBE headless horseman drops his mount for me this year

[copper monolith]

it seemed more popular at first

[rotund oak]

1 wax 1 whetstone

[copper monolith]

but i don't know anymore

[royal lantern]

and thats ok

personal goals and doing what makes you happy is the #1 reason you should play the game

[chilly mist]

I know people hate the 11-12 gap in m+, can't say for the rest

[copper monolith]

well my personal goal was to do mythic raiding and get mythic gear

[mental obsidian]

Thank You

[copper monolith]

but i don't even want to anymore lmao

[brisk plank]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax can once again be applied to weapons of all levels
There might still be bugs and odd things happening to it that hasn't been tested yet, but it seems to be working based on initial testing

[honest needle]

@chilly mist ya im starting to get my +10s done but 11 and 12s i heard are insane

[hot fulcrum]

but there are not much diff in 10 and 11. but 12 is harder ofc due to additional affix

if you can get 10 than prob you can get 11. but 11->12 is shit

at least as I know

[rotund oak]

u r welcome friend

[honest needle]

honeslty im happy just getting 10s and leveling a new toon or playing a different game

[safe patrol]

prob an empowering angle but the dagger is tempting since wearing 636 in mainhand right now but killing horror every week and only rogue so yeah eventually. got myth track skardyns last week

[brisk plank]

Is it best for both m+ and raid? It cant be much diff between runes but im still wondering

[rotund oak]

pretty sure wax working on OH should win whetstone for ST but dont take anything for granted,should always sim,will give u all the answers 🙂

[vital scarab]

Will you guys take ring or set legs with mythic track?

[runic hinge]

ring

[winged widget]

I would jus take ring, since it is more rare, ngl. you can get a tier legs or normal legs and catalyze it later.

[vital scarab]

hmmm that's a good point

[pulsar ice]

Cape or Sacbrood, i have mad queens hc

[normal mist]

"vault give me something good this week"
Narrator
" He did not get anything good this week, and his vault choices were filled with useless tier set pieces "

This expansion is fucking me up bad

[runic hinge]

cape

[arctic tusk]

is there an easier way to sim between sub and sin without changing ur talents in game

can u save a simc or something on raidbots

[buoyant pilot]

T.T I've got Hero Skardyn's. I've got Champion mqm (which I don't use rn). I've got hero Dead-Eye Spyglass. Myth legs from first boss should be mine. I feel like I just pick Empowering Crystal for 1.5k higher sim (over spyglass) and myth track. Anything I'm missing here?

[grim jay]

Hu

Wasnt wax always worse than whetstone

[grim jay]

Crystal should be way higher with 13 ilvl diff

You always sim max upgraded

[rotund oak]

read on sub channel it ws actually working on OH so no,prolly not

u always sim no matter what

[grim jay]

No I mean it always was like 0.4% better

Or something

Per application

Iirc

[rotund oak]

no,wax was always better st, 0.2-.3%

[grim jay]

@balmy condor help. Wasnt whetstone always better than wax

[balmy condor]

like 0.1% better yeah

basically equal

wax is better for outlaw

[grim jay]

In total or per weapon

[balmy condor]

per

[runic hinge]

[balmy condor]

but it doesn't stack

so like

does it matter?

[fallen arch]

So u telling me

I can spend thousands of gold

For a 0.2% gain

Better do it

[balmy condor]

yeah basically

[fallen arch]

Whetstones are the biggest scam of the expansion

[grim jay]

Not much but ye. How much is it n dslice? Cant sim, am at work

[urban iron]

Best vault possible?

[night cipher]

I had to buy some when the wax was bugged. Worst week of my life

[fallen arch]

I’ll show you a vault

This is criminal right?

[rotund oak]

stupid expensive,i think the real culprit is null stones

[balmy condor]

the same

[fallen arch]

Any 2 week in a row token enjoyers

[grim jay]

Ty friend

[subtle tundra]

i spit on you

i have 0 rare loot

[grim jay]

You are the real culprit, saying wax is better

[rotund oak]

it is

[grim jay]

No Whispyr said its worse

Its at best more efficient

[runic hinge]

reported

[rotund oak]

not in my sims

[fallen arch]

Diabolical

[night cipher]

12k gold nice

[rotund oak]

[vital scarab]

Any idea for 3rd craft guys?

ring or something other?

[runic hinge]

whatever slot is low

[tropic tundra]

which is also a sim question

[grim jay]

You probably did something unholy

[rotund oak]

i did buy diablo 4

[tropic tundra]

no way

[frosty vigil]

i use 2x Dawnthread Lining right now for m+. But i dont feel like i get enough uptime (over 80% hp) for it to be worth. What do you guys run in m+?

[tropic tundra]

is it playable now

[rotund oak]

why man,ye its fun,im cookin' rogue

[grim jay]

Cant blame you, have it aswell

[balmy condor]

80% is for it to be worth in single target

[brisk plank]

Is it working on both hands now? I cant seem to find answer anywhere, or im looking at wrong places

[balmy condor]

it's pretty much better in m+ automatically

[frosty vigil]

i only do m+. What shall i use instead?

[balmy condor]

dawnthread lmao

[tropic tundra]

I played around like 30hrs right after release and it was a shit experience of pressing the same button from lvl 10 to max, and most of the time spent is on running(even inside the dungeon)

[rotund oak]

@vestal wren dear sir,can we confirm this?(Wax working on OH)

[tropic tundra]

hope it gets better with the xpac like d3

[golden loom]

Have I understood the crafting system correctly that you can only have 2 embellishments so now for the third piece thats not a thing to consider?

[tropic tundra]

half right, you can craft without emb

[balmy condor]

it didn't work for me earlier today

[rotund oak]

ah its very different now,u dont random dc every now and then,much less maybe not aat all and there is content to do,theyve added torments like d3

its basicly getting like d3 at this point

[rotund oak]

cool cool

[tropic tundra]

torments sounds cool, thx for sharing the news

[golden loom]

so at the moment I have dawnthread belt + bracers, if I were to make for example a ring, it can't have one right?

[vestal wren]

it always worked on both hands

[tropic tundra]

so there's no problem with crafting any piece you want with your desired stats, and you can even get the emb there if you recraft the current equipped one to remove it

[vestal wren]

missconceptions about bubbling wax

[tropic tundra]

no you can get a ring, but it's just a normal ring with stats

[golden loom]

yeah okay gotcha

[balmy condor]

it for sure doesn't stack what

[rotund oak]

mr whispyr sir,we got a conflict of information here,mr fuu says it works on both hands

[tropic tundra]

if you want for example a lens with it, you gotta remove one from your current gears

[wide sleet]

is it spyglass angle? got Hero Ara-kara and champion mad queen

[rugged oyster]

shoulder for cata or trinket current gear

[vestal wren]

1. it works on both hands (but does not stack, so you only want to use one)
2. it does work even when you die
3. You want to use it on your highest item level weapon as the damage depends on weapon item level

[balmy condor]

yeah

exactly

[grim jay]

D3 had cooler skills

[grim jay]

Trinket imo

[balmy condor]

ain't no conflict of info

fuu said exactly the same thing I did

[rotund oak]

ah u meant it doesnt stack

cool cool

[balmy condor]

well yeh ofc

obviously it works on offhand but why would you

it scales with ilvl

never goes on offhand

[normal mist]

Unless big offhand

[grim vigil]

transmitter + skardyns sim worse than sacbrood + scardyns same ilvl, am i simming wrong or is first combo just better

[balmy condor]

die

[balmy condor]

that makes sense yes

[tropic tundra]

why big offhand

[normal mist]

Can't ask what already happened

[balmy condor]

you can't cast transmitter + skardyns together

so one of them is going to be giga shitter

[tropic tundra]

idk wow should have a left handed character customization

[balmy condor]

on-use stats when you're not in cooldowns

puke

[tropic tundra]

purely to troll gear slots

[subtle tundra]

ok love

[grim vigil]

and for patchwerk sacbrood + transmitter sim slightly better than skardyns + sac

[subtle tundra]

i shall be use it

[balmy condor]

sure

then use that

whatever you want

[subtle tundra]

did the tier set fixes affect any fatebound dmg?

[balmy condor]

no

[subtle tundra]

yikes

[balmy condor]

but heads = all buff

and kingsbane = buff

and all buff = kingsbane

so like

I guess idk

[subtle tundra]

yea but the diff got a bit bigger

[balmy condor]

the instant damage from coins was already affected

[subtle tundra]

but i suspect ds to take a nerf on patch

compared to fatebound atleast

[runic hinge]

fatebound buffs

[strange python]

Let’s not nerf ds

[runic hinge]

instead

[subtle tundra]

i didnt say they get directly nerfed or buffed

i mean from the talent changes

[balmy condor]

huh

[subtle tundra]

im creating a headcannon based on pure thinking

i will spread misinformation, tldr

[balmy condor]

nice

hate that

I will mute you

[subtle tundra]

WTF

when i do it, its mute
when others do it i have to argue against them like a dumbfuck

[balmy condor]

now you get it

[subtle tundra]

ok...

romanian debuff ig

[balmy condor]

common east euro L

[subtle tundra]

Central european, but alas

[soft surge]

https://i.imgur.com/eXSNFzR.png dont know if anyone here remembers but anyway. i got it

[grim jay]

OUTLAW

[soft surge]

dono why it says that

[balmy condor]

O U T L A W

[strange python]

Wtf

[soft surge]

https://i.imgur.com/yeDUWXn.png there we go

[strange python]

Automod for big letters

[soft surge]

im so content now

[grim jay]

Way better

[soft surge]

nothing more to farm

apart from raid

and just enjoy my spec

[subtle tundra]

what if i install wow on work laptop

[grim jay]

Youll go to jail

No questions asked

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/bfuQS.gif

[subtle tundra]

unrelated, the anti corruption authorities are here for a surprise visit

[grim jay]

What the hell is an anti corruption authority

[subtle tundra]

every country has them to keep comppanies in check

[grim jay]

I dont think theyve been here at any point in the last 8 years

But if they work as fast as people like that usually work here

They ll check us in 2028

But only our 1990 data

[night cipher]

better find those floppy disks !

[spring prawn]

:(

[kindred hinge]

So Kologan trinket.. Worth it to run the raid to try to drop it on champion track or don't bother ? I have Spyglass hero and Broodsac Myth.

[wild hound]

So using wax on main hand and mana oil on offhand is better than using mana oil on both?

[vestal wren]

yes

[wild hound]

Cool, thanks!

[crisp stream]

guys when is the perfect time to use Queen trinket? i currently use skardyns and queen, Skardyns with cd's and queen when the target is about to die, is there a better way to utilize queen trinket?

[drifting basin]

just click it off cd

[molten echo]

Is it still possible to recraft a 636 dagger to get the discounted upgradepath for the other weapon?

[tropic tundra]

nothing wrong with that unless it affects your other one's usage

[hushed maple]

I am a bit in a dilemma when it comes to my vault...it has Rash cloak with Avoidance and well..Mandate..with being Mandate. I am alting my Rogue and therefore very likely never really raiding with it. Any Tips what I should truly grab?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1SGoiFBoUSXo6dNuShAq3m

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qPDXPhfEjuwmqv4pkkoypu

[drifting basin]

what content do u do? if u are alting your rogue for m+, rash cloak is pretty poggers

[hushed maple]

Yeah M+

[drifting basin]

then i'd say rash cloak

[hushed maple]

Not even really raiding on my mage tbh. Might use Rogue for Heroic Boosts or whatever but other than that

its keys only

[spring prawn]

do u guys usually sim dungeon slice or patchwork 5 targets for m+ sims?

[hushed maple]

I am just not sure how well mandate dmg gain is reflected as I do not kill with it in a 5 min 5 target sim

[drifting basin]

its a ST dmg trinket that is far away from being grieftorch

i might be talking shit, but there must be better options out there

[hushed maple]

well I mean 3.5M dmg none crit on a 60 second Cooldown (when killing a target) is quite hefty

[elder prism]

I got Skardyns so I'm happy man

[glossy grove]

would you prefer ovinax egg trinket over spyglass of siege for m+?

[hushed maple]

both passive trinkets

sims will tell

[glossy grove]

ovinax trinket sims 116k more than spyglass for m+

kinda huge :p

[hushed maple]

yeaha nd Spyglass is also a bit more farmable

[runic hinge]

Dslice

[hushed maple]

Is Dslice a thing for Rogues?

[runic hinge]

Yes

[hushed maple]

well thats awkward

Mages get told Dslice is the biggest bs next to stat weights

[subtle tundra]

that seems very very excessive for a trinket

care to send the sim?

[hushed maple]

let me introduce you to Queens Mandate which gives me 170k DPS in ST

[molten echo]

Is it still possible to recraft a 636 dagger (like changing secondaries or embellishment) to get the discounted upgradepath for another weapon? Anyone know?

[subtle tundra]

yea bud if you have dog trinkets

and you get your bis

[runic hinge]

Depends on if your tcs keep it updated and optimized. Probably a pita

[hushed maple]

so guys I kinda have a question for Pooling Energy...

[glossy grove]

y, i sim again, i will send you if its rigged again

[hushed maple]

I played Rogue in BFA mostly and well pooling before Envenom was a thing to get most out of the nature dmg buff

[runic hinge]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[errant hawk]

Yes its working

[glossy grove]

Simming 38k more now :D, i think thats correct

[molten echo]

Is it enough to just change secondaries and equip in MH/OH? Or do I need to remove embellishment or something?

[errant hawk]

No need to remove anything

[hushed maple]

maybe my language barrier kinda denies an understanding of the Deathstalker thing

if its better to envenom and only go above 50% when you cant envenom spam...why is Sanguine Blades even an Option to take if its not maintained properly. Is there no real alternative?

[molten echo]

For when there are multiple targets I'd guess, it is not taken for single target builds right?

[vast halo]

!embellishment

[hushed maple]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hBD2s82CQmNy4pvdx2aoXf

Dungeon slice kinda made it all twisted

[vast halo]

Is there a concensus on best embelishment for mixed content m+/raid

[hushed maple]

(Ignore chet, I have 3 Heroic Chests to catalyst so thats something I do anyway)

[hushed maple]

Ascension + double stat thingy probably (dont quote me)

[runic hinge]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[vast halo]

thx

[flint tinsel]

hmm... considering either cloak (due to rarity and procc) or crystal.

[pliant remnant]

SCHWINGEN DER ZERSCHMETTER

[runic hinge]

Cloak

[light knoll]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[errant hawk]

Did you succeed?

[molten echo]

No, just changing secondaries did not work

So that was a waste of gold 😄

[spring prawn]

its patchwerk 5 targets or dungeonslice more accurate for m+ sims?

[keen spruce]

dslice

[novel star]

slice

[spring prawn]

thanks

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/xiaojie-xiaocat-gif-18274610571282727560

[hallow bobcat]

help me guys

[subtle tundra]

my little friend
we cant know your current gear

sim yourself

[runic hinge]

Cloak

[subtle tundra]

wait for hc clear

idk what else to tell you

[tropic tundra]

unless you have myth pieces for both shoulder and glove that looks fine enough

also that yeah

[runic hinge]

It’s the cloak

[sly blade]

Is my sim alright? It's dungeon slice, I think I'm matching it most of the time?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vUaL2oRYk4vv6RUJTnA9Aq

[hushed maple]

why is the cloak so often in vaul of People

why on earth does my 611 Rogue do 200k more

[hoary remnant]

Cloak

[hushed maple]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hBD2s82CQmNy4pvdx2aoXf

Do you have the wrong talent build?

[runic hinge]

You have buffs on

[sly blade]

Got the hybrid deathstalker from wowhead

[hushed maple]

ah true.

Did not see it that well on my work monitor for his sims to have most deactivated

[novel star]

simming dslice with optimal buffs is cooked

lmao

[hushed maple]

how on earth can I smell that Dungeonslice doesnt know it cant have all

[sly blade]

Looking at your sim I can't understand why you have so much more dps

[hushed maple]

🥹

[runic hinge]

Imma do that and put pi on too. Fuck it

[runic hinge]

He has full raid buffs friend

[hushed maple]

I resim without buffs

lust only and food etc like you had

[sly blade]

Alright

[hallow bobcat]

the back is strong like this

?

[hushed maple]

I mean it has decent stats and nice damage reduction surely

[hushed maple]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kVTU8imXxA1dh1QyAo2xK7

[sly blade]

Damn

[hushed maple]

well augment rune still

[runic hinge]

Very rare cloak. Might not see it again

[sly blade]

Yeah, still can't understand why you have similar dps with 6 lower ilvl. Is it the secondary stats? The trinkets?

[novel star]

i guess its fake rn because buffs but improving

died on queen today so fucking L there but whatever

surely soon i get a guild that can actually do anything in mythic right

surely

[hushed maple]

too many add pad fights to get cool logs anyway

[novel star]

well thats the concerning thing

is like

[native escarp]

bro is the sikran neck lowkey ass

it sims so bad

[novel star]

being top dps on h ovinax when theres a fdk on the roster

this shouldnt be the way things are

[tropic tundra]

Is the guy playing without sindragosa or

how is that even possible

[novel star]

no just a blue parse

[tropic tundra]

[novel star]

idk how frost works

[tropic tundra]

its ok im feral and top 3 dps in my raid

[hushed maple]

ice go woosh

[tropic tundra]

we dead

[novel star]

but breath is in the damage breakdown

idk

im just waffling between shit rn trying to find my place

applying everywhere

better guild also wants me so i will simply stop mid trial and go start a new trial there

the endless trial

[hushed maple]

if you switch guilds every now and then

you will be stuck

eventually

[molten echo]

Any suggestions? 😛

[novel star]

i mean after this point im done applying to shit

[tropic tundra]

im fine as long as we kill ansurek til feb

[novel star]

if i get in a guild that is on the ovinax wall already

im happy enough

i just want experience so i have logs for next tier

[tropic tundra]

good luck for both of us

[novel star]

gl goat

[hushed maple]

and then there is me. Made it in a good guild, wasnt good enough for a main raider and now I am enjoying bench life to the fullest

it surely has its benefits

[rose wharf]

I could craft 4 Set today but with NM/Delve Items only.
Do you think it's worth to try and wait out until i maybe get better stuff to convert, i doubt getting in a HC Raid will happen.

[hushed maple]

Convert HC only I say

[novel star]

yea

[hushed maple]

well depends if you have 3 Cahrges left and miss one item

might aswell get a crappy one to convert

[novel star]

if u can play well enough to farm hero gear

so like

hc raid and +7s

[boreal lichen]

mythik+ player here. should i take trinket or set chest (alrdy have 4set) simming comes pretty close dif max 0,1%. i am afraid if i take trinket i am stuck with a non bis trinket for ever tho.

[novel star]

never catalyze below that

not that its particularly hard to heroic raid or do 7s in the grand scheme of things

but

yea

if you have access to that gear dont waste charges on bad shit

[hushed maple]

(especially now as Melees are dayum strong in Keys)

[royal lantern]

if you want a mythic tier chest, ANY chest can be turned into 1 trought catalyst

trinket is a 100% vault rng drop

thats not a hard question lol

[novel star]

trinkets are way more rare yea

and thats a pretty decent one

[rose wharf]

Thats what i thought. i Have 2 Set and 3 charges. I will just wait and hope i get 7s or maybe into an Heroic Raid

[novel star]

youll use it for a long time if u pump gilded into it

[boreal lichen]

ok will take trinket then

[hushed maple]

not to mention Mythic trinket allows you to upgrade others cheaper

(well if you have 2)

Upgrading a "Second Chest" is kinda...not there

[errant hawk]

You need to relog after recrafting

[molten echo]

King, worked now, thanks 😄

[errant hawk]

Perfect, what was your secondaries stats before recrafting?
Cuz i want to recraft too, but i have nothing to change on my dagger…

[molten echo]

I had haste/crit and recrafted to crit/mastery

not sure why i even crafted it with haste/crit originally, i have no memory of it, must've bought the wrong missive

[native escarp]

is sikran just bad on sims

cause its simming like dog ass and shit for me

versus mists neck

[balmy condor]

are you simming dslice

[errant hawk]

Come private message

[brisk plank]

You recrafted 636 and now you can upg your other slot to 636 without needing any crests?

[molten echo]

Correct, only needed 15 crests for 636-639

rest just valorstones

[native escarp]

nah im simming 5 targr

[balmy condor]

oh even worse

haste falls off in aoe

[novel star]

when sikran neck showed up in my vault it was like a 1.2% upgrade over what i had on before (either some champ shit or hero 1/6 shit i think tbf)

[native escarp]

alr lemme sim ST

[novel star]

st patchwerk tho

[dawn heath]

oof

what a shit vault

god those trinkets stink

[real pike]

yo sorry if this has been asked before but is Sacbrood or Spyglass the better trinket to pair with Skardyn's? Trinket tier list says one and bis list says the other

[tropic tundra]

trust your sims

[balmy condor]

don't listen to either

(tier list/bis list)

they're both nonsense

[dawn heath]

there is no world we take harvesters here right

its shit

[balmy condor]

correct

[dawn heath]

undertuned

[tropic tundra]

even if the numbers are good i think it won't work

the orb is so slow

and smol

[grizzled fulcrum]

Oh really ? How does that work exactly

Do i only need to recraft my 636 weapon for it ?

[molten echo]

I believe the game thinks you've had 2 unique 636 daggers

which... you had i guess.

[molten echo]

Yep, recrafting to other secondaries, equipping in OH/MH and relogging was enough

[grizzled fulcrum]

Oh wow
So i recraft my dagger with other secondaries equip it in the city and relog

Thats it ?

[molten echo]

yep, just did it

[grizzled fulcrum]

I wonddr if that works with rings too

[molten echo]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4s1bJCpiATp71agptwKNET

Why is spelunkers so good?! And why does it say 6734 crit on sims but 2956 crit ingame....

[molten echo]

I would imagine it does

[balmy condor]

good trinket

and it doesn't sim with 6734

it sims with 2956

[dawn heath]

did we gain less from the buffs in m+ build?

my sims went from 1.04m to 1.041m

thats like 3.8%

not 5%

[balmy condor]

pins

[spring sigil]

Daft question. attempting Zekvir ?? and i'm having the issue where if i kick enfeble my kick isn't back up in time for the regeneration so he ends up full health

Does any other stun ability work for the second cast?

[dawn heath]

you are stating 5.2% st there

can compare in raid build to see difference

[balmy condor]

yeh

raid build went up by 5.2%

depends on character obviously

but if you're simming in an m+ build

[dawn heath]

my gain was sub 4% on m+

[balmy condor]

well yes

obviously lmao

[dawn heath]

sadge

[balmy condor]

you're simming an m+ build

[dawn heath]

i was looking forward to m+ st buffs

[balmy condor]

holy shit huge surprise

[novel star]

thought the problem with edict was design

cus orb is aids

not numbers

maybe both idfk

played trinket in m0s and hated it and have ptsd

[balmy condor]

edict sims with 20% chance to pick up orb for what its worth

so it's like

not giga bait

[orchid wind]

got the sikrun trinket in vault, any thoughts ?

[balmy condor]

uncapped non-split aoe is good

otherwise whatever

[orchid wind]

i'll just take the myth hand then

[random adder]

Do we already know the exact impact of the buff? is it helping a lot in single target/overall?

thanks

[mental plume]

Don't kick the dot. Save it for the regeneration. Take double vanish and use that to clear the dot, then you have cloak as back up

[sacred schooner]

you kick only heal, first one will dispel bran second one cos third vanish brann etc, pick second vanish charge

a lol it get answered already :x

[jovial idol]

How we looking after the buffs?

[zealous wolf]

first boss threads, can we somehow not get thrown out of stealth?

[royal lantern]

go next to him before pulling

[sacred schooner]

just dont vanish when brann is dead, there is no dyno or monkey he will reset

[jovial idol]

Get close to him

he will only pull you in if you are out of his circle range

[grim vigil]

any ideas what to craft at this point? weapon?
https://raider.io/characters/eu/blackmoore/Roxyslice

[fallen arch]

Nice score

[jagged niche]

you can sim that

[grim vigil]

yea guess ill sim a ring and wep see whats best

[south prawn]

Only cloak removes affix right? (Not including racials)

[craggy monolith]

Sim says pick the neck, but surely i cant just ignore the trinket right??!

[jagged niche]

what are you simming

[craggy monolith]

Hectic add cleave if that is what you're asking? For M+

[past panther]

gm fello stabby boys and gals

[jagged niche]

yeah dont listen to that sim

[craggy monolith]

trash? what should I do instead chieftain?

[forest mountain]

do we not sim dungeonslice for m+

[craggy monolith]

I have no clue, it changes every week at this rate.

[balmy condor]

we have always simmed dungeonslice

since legion

[hexed niche]

I got crit mastery Myth track dagger, but also a cloak and my current daggers are max upgraded (hero 6/6 + the craft option ). I think the immediate upgrade is the back, but long term probably the dagger - https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dbwzwCaFJFg612kHkcjzRc
What's smart to pick here?
I have simmed both items to be max upgraded, but i haven't got the crests for it yet

[tall pulsar]

Holy shit

[past panther]

congrats!

[molten echo]

I wouldn't take the cloak, it's hero track, that's farmable easily

[grim jay]

Had many people lately that said it changes all the time, they probably confuse it with them playing other classes that dont sim dslice aswell

[lone lava]

Are items with poison procs affected by our mastery?

[grim jay]

Items usually dont interact with any spec things

And if they do its bugged

[lone lava]

They used to afaik

[novel star]

nopers

[grim jay]

Ye they went away from that at some point

As they seemingly dont want them to do that

[strange python]

Why does my FoK give like 2 combo points and Im hittinng 5+ targets wtf

[forest mountain]

how come the buffs only affect raid build and not m+ build ST, what talent is the cause

[grim tree]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[novel star]

they do affect m+ st

[balmy condor]

they affect m+ build ST, just not as much

[novel star]

just not as much

[balmy condor]

seal fate

[novel star]

come on man

[balmy condor]

no

we fight the stupid together

[novel star]

same message in between my split 2 messages

that’s fucked

[novel star]

i’m the stupid :(

i say wrong stuff all the time!

[tropic tundra]

we're getting closer to the melee hivemind

[novel star]

not there tho

[novel star]

based

[royal lantern]

10years ago maybe

[forest mountain]

ah but it wont change dungeonslice sims that much just because of the time spent doing aoe?

so st buff is still there but the impact on overall is small

[royal lantern]

yes, dungeonslice is not well maintained for most classes

"just do 5target cleave" is what they legit do

[tropic tundra]

just optimize around raid build and only do weekly +10s

easy

[grim jay]

Not small but smaller

[grim jay]

Nerd

For sin its not way off anyways tho

[tropic tundra]

i am

[cunning basin]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[dawn heath]

[novel star]

3 transmitters dropped earlier in my heroic

got 0

[dawn heath]

atleast i got a 99 log

[novel star]

W

[dawn heath]

pog?

[grim jay]

I took one from vault last week

Because the choice literally was

3 useless mythic track trinkets

Transmitter

Or socket

[novel star]

my choice was 1 useless myth trinket or socket

[tawny geyser]

No Skardyn's, but still giga... 😄

[dawn heath]

wait

[strange python]

So fan of knives gives 2 cp on 8 targets cause of that talent???

[balmy condor]

1 cp base, 1 cp per crit

[novel star]

each individual crit is 1 cp

[dawn heath]

pretty good

[grim jay]

It wouldve given you 1 without

[dawn heath]

40k off my sim

[novel star]

so you could max cp in one fan

[strange python]

Ahhhhhhh

I see

I thought it worked like shuriken storm for sub

[novel star]

[small oracle]

haste

[novel star]

yeah?

go on

[balmy condor]

that's it

just haste

[novel star]

dope

[icy comet]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[manic cave]

Hey is there a clean summery about 11.0.5 changes?

I heard crimson tempest is going to be nerfed hard, most likely unintended though?

[royal lantern]

???

where do you guys "hear" that stuff all the time

[manic cave]

Deals -75% on ptr currently

formula was changed how its dmg is calculated

[grim jay]

It was cleaned up

It was wrong before

[manic cave]

didn’t tested myself. So I want info about it

fixed already is dmg is unchanged or buffed?

[grim jay]

Its just a tooltip change to actually reflect the damage

It already does

And its quite an old note aswell

[manic cave]

I See so the damage is unchanged after all

[grim jay]

Yes

Its so old, it even confused tryan

[manic cave]

kk, so is there any significant coming. Is there a useful summery of incoming changes

[arctic socket]

In the pinned messages

[modest gale]

how do u guys get into keys? i got most of 10s timed and get declined for +9 key

do i need to write down portfolio or what

[grim jay]

I apply

And get invited

Then use portal

[honest needle]

is there a weakaura for envenom buff so i can keep it rolling i cant find it on wagio whats it called

i searched everything

[modest gale]

while i was typing i just go invited lol

[modest gale]

and just doing this

[royal lantern]

tbh, many things confuse me

im a big dum dum

[grim jay]

Just
rob Whispyr and take his at

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[fading stump]

[Empowering Crystal of Anub'ikkaj] is any good 639?

[royal lantern]

if you dont play a meta spec, its really just "be above the curve so you stand out"

[grim jay]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[royal lantern]

rogue is a class with no BL / no cr, you more or less only get into random groups if you look big

[grim jay]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[royal lantern]

and daily reminder to not pug

[grim jay]

Wdym no cr

Praise the jumper cables

[modest gale]

feels bad to get declined by a grey parser

[royal lantern]

that 9year cast time is no replacement for a real CR tbh

[grim jay]

Many m+ers dont really care for raid

[grim jay]

2s?

It scales with quality

[royal lantern]

thats 40% of a outlaw mains lifespan

[fading stump]

oh ia a top trinket on 639

[grim jay]

Or how long it takes to count an outlaw players braincells

[odd dew]

so is heroic transmitter a meme

[green pier]

question, is skarydn's/transmitter actually bis? or is double on use a drawback that brings another trinket into play?

[grim jay]

Its a trinket and as good as it sims

[balmy condor]

You play one of those two

[green pier]

with like, sacbrood i guess

[grim jay]

Or crystal

Or spyglass

Or Ritual knife

Or mandate

[royal lantern]

any passive trinket or mandate

[green pier]

yeah i currently have mandate. nice, thanks guys

[rotund oak]

mandate be crazy though

[grim jay]

Only if it crits

[rotund oak]

funny numbers

[grim jay]

[rotund oak]

yup

[green pier]

oh no i don't sorry (too many alts lol) i'm on skarydn's/contract

[cursive frost]

Mandate is basically beacon right?

[royal lantern]

yes

[dawn heath]

well