assassination

[bleak spoke]

@balmy condor are the sims telling me garotte/sang over vv cuz of the sim stuff in the pin

[gray horizon]

sorry D:

[balmy condor]

sure

0.2% talent differences gonna be 0.2%

[fickle lotus]

no they're telling you that because that's what has always been doing the most dmg

[balmy condor]

who cares

it's still worse for me

[young dust]

is the bug on sim only or live as well? idk how it's related to the live patch

[spice spire]

Pin says sim gonna say sim only

[indigo mulch]

I mean, the simc dev team usually get to fixing those things rather quickly right? Shouldnt be to long until they have a fix.

[spice surge]

Whispyr is flensing knives still with us

[bleak spoke]

yeah idk i'm just gonna play garrote side instead of vv, i don't like vv madge

[spice surge]

Or did it pass away

[young dust]

Thats good, i'd rather rely on simc devs than blizz devs

[balmy condor]

I can't log in

[bleak spoke]

wtf

[indigo mulch]

[spice spire]

Yeah but In between you’ll get 30000000000000000 questions

If you don’t mention it

[arctic socket]

[waxen oyster]

tbh

its fr impressive all 3 rogue specs

are bugged

[bleak spoke]

have u tried picking the lock on the container

[spice surge]

Get rekt kid My condolences

[spice spire]

The FBI are on their way

[bleak spoke]

how is the flensing bug triggered btw

[spice surge]

Mutilate with snd up

[hushed elbow]

Anyone have an idea why my sims arent mix and amtching gems?

[spice surge]

If youve specced longer cloak

[spice spire]

You pick up longer cloak and it exists

[bleak spoke]

oh

[spice spire]

[spiral gale]

Are rogues buggier than other classes or does blizz just suffer from bad QM

[spice spire]

Monks

[bleak spoke]

no, like every alt i play has something crazy

[spice spire]

[young dust]

Under "World of Warcraft: The War Within" check the "Additional command line arguments" box.

In the blank line that appears, enter -uid wow_engb and click "Done."

this fixed for me

[spice spire]

Blud hecking his life rn

[proven jasper]

Whenever i get that error i just spam hit play till it works

[waxen oyster]

talent ethereal

[proven jasper]

[spice surge]

Ye checked some random log and flensing still seems here

[next geyser]

finally got a hero track skardyn's grace T_T

[spice surge]

Not too surprising seeing as they didnt fix anything else

[waxen oyster]

dh has a funny bug where if your bladedance has 2 secs or less on its cd

[bright cipher]

Sims will avoid mixing gems, if you select https://i.imgur.com/VLnYQfd.png this options here it will try and mix 4 slots of different colors (ruby,sapphire, onyx, emerald) for minmaxing the blasphemite

[waxen oyster]

the tier reset proc wont happen

[next geyser]

does anyone know the actual % chance for deadeye spyglass to proc?

[spice surge]

1 rppm im fairly sure

[hushed elbow]

Thanks Mal

[waxen oyster]

spyglass procrate is

very very high

unless they gutted it since bfa

[arctic socket]

I was hyped af for spyglass

But it’s kinda doodoo

[spice surge]

So it averages out to 1 proc per minute

[balmy condor]

spyglass is good what

[arctic socket]

Compared to other options naw

Good yeah

[next geyser]

just glad i don't have to play the stupid treaterous transmitter minigame anymore, finding a tiny purple ball in a raid of 30 people is aids

[arctic socket]

Grace is pogu

[spice surge]

https://gist.github.com/Dorovon/74c4fcf49ae799d92066b3266dcdcebc
For reference if anybody is curious how rppm works

[waxen oyster]

well this week you can prayge for a wrathstone drop

[arctic socket]

What is that

[spice spire]

Doodoo is .2% less

[waxen oyster]

ulduar trinket

crit passive agi on use

[haughty lantern]

My biggest question is running an amber worth it for the extra gem color

[somber sparrow]

does anyone know how to trick everyone into passing the poison ring from queen ansurek so i win it when it drops

[balmy condor]

no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

[bright cipher]

no

[arctic socket]

That’s a lot of nos

[haughty lantern]

Well that answers my question

[finite gazelle]

!weakaura

[next geyser]

tell them it's only good for rogues

[bright cipher]

well, maybe i shouldn't say if its worth for rogues i am no rogue but... um probably no

[next geyser]

hope they believe you

[meager granite]

i think whispyr meant yes

[balmy condor]

that stupid fucking meta gem is barely worth using properly

[meager granite]

do it

[runic hinge]

STAND IN OR FIND CIRCLE

[balmy condor]

like it's margin of error for some people

thing is stupid shit

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice surge]

Unironically might be worth to use the movespeed one instead

[haughty lantern]

Didn’t realize the upgrade was that minuscule, gotcha

[next geyser]

JUMP 3 TIMES

[waxen oyster]

how long do you have to do the stand in one

[spice surge]

Maybe not on rogue, but def on slower classes

[arctic socket]

Tell then that your class buffs the damage since you have a lot of passive poison buffs, your tier set also effects it)

[haughty lantern]

Scroll of momentum go brrrrrt

[alpine oracle]

People so in brief, the nerf was 1% loss but in future will be a gain??

[bright cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/2omb-pray-prayge-gif-24836268

[arctic socket]

This isn’t hard it works tho

[waxen oyster]

find probably isn't bad for me since i excessively AD when i play wow

[bright cipher]

church of the movement speed blasphemite here

[balmy condor]

no?

[arctic socket]

We got 0 nerfs

[balmy condor]

sims just aren't reflecting properly

[arctic socket]

All buffs

[spice spire]

In sims it’s a small loss. It’s a buff

[bleak spoke]

alright nice, I guess i've just been completely trolling by playing magic wall on evasion

[spice spire]

You have

[alpine oracle]

Ohhhh, so is it a buff? really?

[spice spire]

🙂

[waxen oyster]

i mean bait and switch is technically better

[balmy condor]

aaaaaa

[spice spire]

Yes

[waxen oyster]

if blizz made their game work

[spice spire]

All of it was a buff except 5% to spatter

Which definitely screams buff

[arctic socket]

Did you read the pins

[alpine oracle]

I like the st buff but I was perceiving it as a loss in AOE

[arctic socket]

Be real

[waxen oyster]

how is it a loss on aoe

[bleak spoke]

i mean yeah like if you read the abilities i can't think of many reasons to take long cloak

[spice spire]

I am not

[waxen oyster]

do you know how spatter works

[spice spire]

I am fake

[bleak spoke]

my bad for playing the game blizz

[haughty lantern]

You are complex

[waxen oyster]

rbg andys

[spice spire]

I am truthfully not that complex

[arctic socket]

Ends up being a aoe buff

We up

[waxen oyster]

apparently its stupid since capping a node takes 6 seconds

[haughty lantern]

Got a square root of negative one stuck to you

[waxen oyster]

and long cloak is 7

[bleak spoke]

yeah i can see that

[waxen oyster]

so if you cloak vs a caster they cant stop you

from capping

[bleak spoke]

that's actually hilarious

[waxen oyster]

[bleak spoke]

what can even stop you in that case, like a warlock maybe

[arctic socket]

They can auto you

[bleak spoke]

yeah if they can reach you in the time

[haughty lantern]

Mm hunter?

[bleak spoke]

that's not a caster

[bright cipher]

😩 now the sad part about the movement speed meta gem is that while the 8% move speed stack with tertiary stat speed, it don't stack with movement speed from skills (maybe only some)

[arctic socket]

The caster can melee you still

[waxen oyster]

let's be real if you're yoinking from a defender

[alpine oracle]

I'm grateful then... now is Ovinax trinket good for any rogue? o do i take mythic tier?

[waxen oyster]

it probs will be a moonkin from stealth

40 yds from the node

[arctic socket]

Did you sim it

[waxen oyster]

dumbass chickens

[bleak spoke]

yeah like if they're sitting a sap or something they really don't have much time

[bronze pike]

bring back thundeer king meta gems

[arctic socket]

Most likely mythic tier but always som to be safe

[alpine oracle]

Thanks will sim it

[waxen oyster]

idk blitz sounds like a huge joke

go to take a base with another person

[alpine oracle]

Sooooo, the deathstalker buff of the envenom will hit harder now? fun! maybe fatebouund is a thing with that buff or nah?

[waxen oyster]

duel the defender

if defender has no aoe

[spice spire]

Fatebound is worse than before with the changes

[arctic socket]

^

[spice spire]

Since it just made it so things from DS now properly trigger

[alpine oracle]

NoooooooooooooOOoOOOOOOooo

[waxen oyster]

bro you are talking out of your ass

read the notes

[winged basin]

It pains my soul, to see that sims say none of these are an upgrade, and to just cata my pants

[waxen oyster]

or the pin

[balmy condor]

guys help what do I take from vault I'm so clueless

[arctic socket]

Me

[normal mist]

the neck

[waxen oyster]

myconic shoulderstrap

[indigo mulch]

Shoulders for sure

[lethal arrow]

616 knife might go hard

[arctic socket]

Honestly the sac

[waxen oyster]

whispyr flexing his vault

smh

[calm grail]

Does this mean that we're at the 5% in ST and equal in AOE it's just not showing in sims?

[fickle lotus]

chisel to piss off everyone here

[balmy condor]

yes

[spice spire]

I didn’t even pay attention to the name and started typing

[arctic socket]

People don’t fully read

[spice spire]

Fuck u bud

[waxen oyster]

someone posted a meme

where you need to complete a captcha

to sign up to lfg groups

[balmy condor]

I was thinking of a way to do that but for typing in a spec channel

but it would need to be repeatable

and that's the hard part

[alpine oracle]

Mmmm do i follow this sim? I have arakara's trinket and crystal from dawnbreaker https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6gKo6woxBzjEBEwEzudMAa

[haughty lantern]

Wings or Broodsac probably

[waxen oyster]

Honestly

[balmy condor]

like normally it's like oh react to this message with an emote and it would be fine but then people just do that and still don't read

[waxen oyster]

there should be like something pinned with a requirement

to type in channels

imo

[balmy condor]

looks like you just got some bad vault choices unlucky

[fickle lotus]

react to a message that's pinged

[balmy condor]

yeah but that's what I mean

you can't do that repeatably

like I would LOVE

to lock the channel down when buffs get posted

and be like

you gotta do this puzzle

to open the spec channel

but that's real hard

[arctic socket]

Wishful thinking

[spiral gale]

I don't even do delve puzzles

[fickle lotus]

back to the grim batol mines this time for the ring instead of the trinket wish me luck 😭

[serene solar]

Unskippable ad that plays the most recent pin for 10 seconds before you can type in the channel when there is a new pin with this option selected. xD

[waxen oyster]

Why do people ask whats better question

[hollow talon]

make people do the ny times connections to post in the channel

[waxen oyster]

while linking a sim

which shows you what is objectively better

[serene solar]

I need to get that too... Don't remind me 😦

[fickle lotus]

because they have a crippiling lack of self worth (just like me fr fr) and they don't trust their judgement to a critical level

[waxen oyster]

which ring

[fickle lotus]

crit/mastery one

[waxen oyster]

oh i just use the siege one

[spiral gale]

Umbral Band or w/e

[fickle lotus]

i use circle of bone and umbris band

[balmy condor]

god I wish

[spice spire]

I’d prefer to blindly doom to buffs ty

[balmy condor]

had a guy last week post vault and go "what should I pick, can't sim atm cause I'm at work"

and my fist nearly went through my monitor

[waxen oyster]

Why is people's first prio at work

[spice spire]

I remember that one

[waxen oyster]

what sims better in a game

💀

[normal mist]

because happiness

[spice spire]

Let’s roll it back

He was able to check his vault

[fickle lotus]

because we work from home and have nothing better to do 🙂

[waxen oyster]

ngl if you work from home

[pure moth]

So he can be in game while working? But can't open raidbots

[spice spire]

Sim takes 25s

[waxen oyster]

you can sim yourself

[normal mist]

My GF checks my vault when i'm at work

[spiral gale]

Help which A tier trunk should I use crystal or void contract

[spice spire]

Easy teach

[fickle lotus]

actually big brained strat

[balmy condor]

worse, he logged in before work, opened his vault, took a phone picture, went to work, then posted the picture he took of his vault and said he couldn't sim

[spice spire]

Source, I totally did this with Val

[waxen oyster]

I refuse to believe there's people under 30 who take phone pictures

[fickle lotus]

the worst part of that entire sentence is that he took a picture with his phone of his screen

[spice spire]

Brother /simc send it to yourself

Run it

[balmy condor]

why do that

[arctic socket]

Whispyr can you stream my vault

[balmy condor]

when can ask a dozen strangers for their opinion

[past bobcat]

Raidbots saves previous sims

[spice spire]

I only yell

[past bobcat]

Just open one and top gear the vault options

[pure moth]

Damn

[spice spire]

My opinion is ur cute

[balmy condor]

like imagine in real life just walking up to a group of people with your phone and going "hey what do you think"

[crisp pine]

Honestly people, just ask me for all your future vaults from now on
I'll tell you what to pick, no need for sims anymore

[spiral gale]

Had a guildie post a blurry SS of their vault this morning

[fickle lotus]

you can also just run /simc with vault open and it will let you choose the vault options when using the top dps feature

[balmy condor]

internet is crazy

[waxen oyster]

ngl

you guys have options in your vault worth simming?

Mine 9/10 times only have one item worth a shit

😭

[past bobcat]

I insta took a socket this week

Had garbage

[wanton root]

hi there everyone :)
little question on assa stats : guides say mast/crit but do we have a haste cap to target ? my sims tell me to pick more haste items although i already have ~10%
was expecting to go for more mast/crit now

[balmy condor]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[wanton root]

thx !

[tall cradle]

can someone explain this talent

[crisp pine]

fastest !stats in the west

[tall cradle]

How come I only have 3 procs during a 4mn fight

[crisp pine]

Yea sure
So after deathmark expires you gain 30 seconds of 30% increased nature damage

[waxen oyster]

it happens after your deathmark eneds

[balmy condor]

cause your deathmark expired on pull, 2 min, and 4 min

that's 3 casts

[wanton root]

for sure didnt know the command but it's handy lmao

[tall cradle]

what does expire mean, fully consumed?

[balmy condor]

the timer runs out

[crisp pine]

Deathmark the cooldown

[tall cradle]

WAIT

[crisp pine]

not deathstalkers mark, the hero talent

[tall cradle]

XD

[waxen oyster]

i took shoulders last week

[tall cradle]

XD

[waxen oyster]

because they had avoidance

[tall cradle]

YEAAA IM DUMB

[pliant remnant]

[crisp pine]

holy fuck imagine

[pliant remnant]

is this another

[crisp pine]

30% nature damage for 30 seconds

[pliant remnant]

Deathmark vs Deathstalker's Mark situation

[fickle lotus]

this is the 3rd week in a row where i've taken something that was myth track and had a teriary stat 🙂

[crisp pine]

after every deathstalkers mark consumption

[wanton root]

do we have a !enchant command too? :D

[balmy condor]

yeah

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[waxen oyster]

i took hc helm week 1

then myth helm week 2

[runic hinge]

Super myth helm week 3

[waxen oyster]

imagine if week 3 was a socket helm

technically same as taking socket

except you're paying more crests

ermm

valorstones

[arctic socket]

Can someone explain to my why my sim is telling me to use more vers over mastery?

[spice spire]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[crisp pine]

because the sim wants you to deal 0 damage

[spice spire]

Hope this helps queen

[crisp pine]

It's lying to you

[arctic socket]

That doesn’t help

Doesn’t explain the sim

[slim pebble]

I showed my wife how to do it and the first vault she ever opened contained an edge of night

[arctic socket]

Fuck you

Respectfully off course

[spice spire]

It definitely doesn’t

[spice spire]

Jealous

[slim pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/i-accept-catherine-ohara-moira-moira-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20775836

[fickle lotus]

isn't that the mom from beetlejuice?

[past bobcat]

I got boe shoulders. Didn't need.

Took a socket last week and this week

[waxen oyster]

yeah not buying boes

[fickle lotus]

how much are they going for my guild is doing farm runs later this week and i'm wondering if i should join

[normal mist]

@spice spire this you?

[waxen oyster]

no idea about myth boes

[spice spire]

It is not me

[normal mist]

a fake

[spice spire]

Quakewar is me

[waxen oyster]

i saw an hc belt no hole for like 100k

[spice spire]

Anytime someone sees some guy named girth quake it also gets sent to me

7 times

[short flint]

623 spyglass simming lower than 619 spelunkers waning candle on dungeon slice and patchworkx10 40 sec :/

[fickle lotus]

"no hole"

[waxen oyster]

the hole one was 300

kinda just for a good tw ulduar box belt

[fickle lotus]

ur not using crafted belt?

[waxen oyster]

i got a socket heroic belt week 1

[balmy condor]

it do though

[cinder steppe]

do we take caustic splatter on rashanan mythic?

[marble hemlock]

any feeldies sims?

[fickle lotus]

Yes but it's probably not gonna hit the adds

[pliant remnant]

HEH

FEELDIES NUTS

[cinder steppe]

asking because in wcl people is taking internal bleeding, maybe because the range is wacky?

[waxen oyster]

They have to be

right under boss

for spatter

[marble hemlock]

spatter wont hit on rashanan

[pliant remnant]

Nah fuck it

[marble hemlock]

due to his hitbox being off-platform

[pliant remnant]

It won't hit, and adds don't count for logs anyway

Go Trickster if you wanna help with adds

[cinder steppe]

ahh okay thought it was from us not boss

ty

[marble hemlock]

they will in 11.0.5 again

but ye

[waxen oyster]

Nope spatter is from your target

[pliant remnant]

Oh really?

Ooft

[marble hemlock]

nope, that is apparently only allowed for feral soon

but not us

[cinder steppe]

kekw

[balmy condor]

I mean ours is better though

do you have any idea how big the range on spatter is

[waxen oyster]

You know what's also funny

voidreaper contract doesnt hit bloodbound

due to his model

[balmy condor]

in 95% of situations spatter is just objectively better

[fickle lotus]

say sike right now

[waxen oyster]

check logs

[marble hemlock]

that math doesnt math

[waxen oyster]

it only hits the adds

[marble hemlock]

its obviously 50%, either its better or its worse?

[pliant remnant]

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-9784065225345967046

[past panther]

am i crazy? do we get a spark this week?

[cyan karma]

So did the slice and dice changes happen this update??

[vivid stream]

What trinket pairs best with transmitter in general ?

[spice spire]

No

2 weeks

[balmy condor]

mandate I guess

[past panther]

oki

[spice spire]

Mandate probably

[spice spire]

Mine was to boycey

Should get spark this week

[cinder steppe]

also another question, for those that have progged mythic rashanan, did you played with vicious venoms or not and with imp garrote etc

[past bobcat]

Did have to buy we farmed them lol

[vivid stream]

What about from dungeon since that’s more farmable?

[cinder steppe]

not talking about sims only, just feelings

[waxen oyster]

unironically

ritual knife from delves

is probably the best passive

[fickle lotus]

VV plays like shit personally

[marble hemlock]

doesnt matter, the movement when he swaps locations is quick enough that you wont have to worry about deathmark falling off

[waxen oyster]

unless you get griefed and it procs during your cds

[balmy condor]

always play with vv personally except for ovi'nax

[worthy laurel]

I always forget to activate my trinkets (especially if they are like Mandate and reset) would it be okay to macro it into something like mutilate?

[balmy condor]

and I guess court

[marble hemlock]

rashanan is a pure singletarget fight for us

[balmy condor]

no

get good moment

[worthy laurel]

I know if it was something like Skardyn's Grace I should macro it with Deathmark.

[worthy laurel]

Fair enough xD

[cinder steppe]

with vv you have to manage better energy right? like not pooling completely but not mindless mutilate spam right?

[ruby birch]

Wait so assa buffs were slightly larger than anticipated?

[short flint]

patchwerk x10 40 sec no lust

[balmy condor]

you have to manage less

[short flint]

spyglass lower in all mt sy sims ><

[past bobcat]

My sin now sims higher than sub 😦

[waxen oyster]

Why are we simming

such a niche situation

40 seconds of 10 target patchwerk

[ruby birch]

It’s ok sub gets to cloak every 1.5

[short flint]

its a m+ sim

\

[cinder steppe]

then its just playing for envemon uptime right?

[worthy laurel]

Do a dungeon slice to get a better feel for what you'll actually do in a dungeon.

[balmy condor]

m+ sim would be dungeonslice, but go off king

[balmy condor]

yes

[past bobcat]

Sin probably better now though.

[short flint]

its lower on dungeon slice aswell

[balmy condor]

happens

[novel shuttle]

any english speaking assassination rogue streaming mythics right now?

[balmy condor]

that's why we sim

[cinder steppe]

oky thanks so much, will try with vv now 😄

[ruby birch]

Yeah idk buddy we got a 35% bp buff

[short flint]

Im pretty sure patchwerkx10 at various time lengths is a common high end m+ sim to do

[ruby birch]

That’s big for our ST

[balmy condor]

I'm pretty sure it isn't

[ruby birch]

Dslice

[balmy condor]

the meme lives on

[winged basin]

YOU BEAT ME TO IT

[short flint]

theres dslice for you ppl who do +5's

[balmy condor]

he got me

[tired gull]

i miss wotlk hailstorm shiv build

[winged basin]

I have this saved from forever ago, and have been waiting for the perfect time to send it

[short flint]

623 spyglass

[balmy condor]

yes

[gentle aurora]

Sup fellow assas enjoyers... Not assas specific but how does Rogue reset the 2nd boss in Grim Batol? Is it just pull and vanish?

[pallid bough]

Rare Fuu cursing

W

[balmy condor]

I would assume so, is that something you have to do

[crisp pine]

What would you recommend if I do a +6

[balmy condor]

sounds like the worst thing you could make a rogue do mid key

[spice surge]

Whats the issue?

[bronze pike]

it really does

[short flint]

Just wondering why spyglass is simming lower than 2 lower ilvl delve trinkets that arnt in the guides (maybe im doing the wrong kind of sim or something)

[onyx gyro]

Are the dps buffs noticeable?

[spice surge]

Because the bis profiles are based on max ilvl 639 gear

[short flint]

well thats worng it is in the guides but not as high

[spice surge]

And the delve items are capped at 626

[short flint]

ok thanks!

[waxen oyster]

calls people doing 5s

has a 610 offhand

[balmy condor]

depends on if you can notice 5% in single target

[waxen oyster]

BRO

[pallid bough]

5% pretty good

[onyx gyro]

I’ll take anything for single target

[balmy condor]

I wasn't gonna say anything

[ruby birch]

What’s wrong with doing 5s?

[short flint]

nothing just being cheeky to ppl who don't knwo what there talking about with m+ sims

[ruby birch]

I’m better than you and I peaked at +4

I only sim stat weights

[spice spire]

Ain’t no way

[reef oxide]

Does anyone know if Raidbot's item search feature actually works? I cant seem to get the the right item to show up

[spice spire]

What pull in high key has exactly ten targets and lasts exactly 40s

[reef oxide]

it shows low level versions

[balmy condor]

oh my bad didn't know you're a sim expert mr "why does this trinket sim lower than this trinket"

[ruby birch]

Shut up +5er

[waxen oyster]

"High end m+ sim" and the guy caps out at vault keys

[ruby birch]

You prob never stepped into a 6

[spice spire]

Buddy the only thing I +5’d is ur pops ya feel me

[ruby birch]

That’s not cool he has cancer

[pliant remnant]

I did a +6 key once

It was scawy

[waxen oyster]

"high end"

[short flint]

I was just tyrn to get some advice on a specific trinkeet and everyone starts talkin about why its a x10 patchwerk even tho anyone who does real m+ knows thats how yous im it. I wasnt the one who started off being rude i was just looking for some advice

[balmy condor]

yo sorry to hear that dog

[crisp pine]

holy fuck he pulled up his profile

[spice spire]

Oh I’m so sorry

[lusty narwhal]

bloody haste taking over crit reee

[ruby birch]

All good he’s still alive

[short flint]

i was rank1 NA last season you keep going hard mate

[ruby birch]

It’s not life threatening

At least not rn

[crisp pine]

oke but even if, last season there were 4 people playing assa rogue

[tired gull]

🍆 📏

[spice spire]

Same mom has polycythemia so it’s kind of whatever now.
Still it’s rough all the same!

[short flint]

yeah and its the assassination channel..

[spice spire]

Wait

[dawn heath]

Rank 1 NA lol

[spice spire]

#1 in s4?

Where half the player base didn’t touch the game?

[pliant remnant]

Wasn't even rank 1

[dawn heath]

So like thats 300 io below zerocool?

[zealous wolf]

Is dungeon slice a good way to sim for m+ gear?

[spice spire]

Yes

[zealous wolf]

Ty

[spice spire]

It’s a model that works. There are many different models you can use but that’s the most middle of the road version

[dapper cradle]

is there a timewalking quest this week?

[crisp pine]

Man why is whispyr never sharing the secret tricks
how to actually sim my high end M+ keys
(talking about 9s)

[dapper cradle]

like the raid one

[crisp pine]

I'm being held back

[dawn heath]

Saying you are rank 1 on like a survival hunter is not a flex imko

[buoyant schooner]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[dawn heath]

A dead spec no one plays

[balmy condor]

was typing

not worth

[spice spire]

He has a super secret discord (his guild discord) and asks for keys

[balmy condor]

spyglass good trinket

stats are stats

who cares

[spice spire]

Stats aren’t real they can’t hurt you

[waxen oyster]

myth track ritual knife

when

[pallid bough]

Dunno why they never added myth track for delves

Like doing 10s or ??

Would incentivize people to do more delves

[zealous wolf]

Is it worth it to "waste" cloak to remove the ritual knife debuff?

[balmy condor]

cause then people would have to do the content

[pallid bough]

For vault

[balmy condor]

and they don't want that I guess

[crisp pine]

well 10 delves are infinitely easier
than any other content in the game

[pallid bough]

Ya you are right

[crisp pine]

so they'd just farm that

[balmy condor]

I mean it's more damage fuck it yolo

[pallid bough]

We are anti content!

[waxen oyster]

11s immortal

[pallid bough]

[waxen oyster]

but then people wont like

[spice surge]

If you dont need cloak for anything else sure go ahead

[zealous wolf]

Truer words have never been spoken

[pallid bough]

Yeah but loot pool also ass

[misty holly]

OK after checking out several "Main stat with secondary stat proc" trinkets from this expansion, Spelunker's Candle seems really good considering you get to put it on a friend too. That's 30 seconds of combined uptime at 2ppm.

[pallid bough]

Realistically doing it for 1 trinket

But yeah I can see the point

[runic hinge]

What about 9 delves

[pallid bough]

10s being infinitely easier

[waxen oyster]

Spelunker's is a good trinket

[balmy condor]

yeh

[waxen oyster]

balances out the fact trinkets like wildfire wick

[balmy condor]

candle good

[waxen oyster]

and abyssal trap exist

[pallid bough]

Okay every class has a trinket they can potentially use

My fault

[balmy condor]

yeh it is your fault

[tired gull]

i rp as a spelunker so i only allow myself to equip gear i've obtained from delves

[short flint]

still sims lower ><

[crisp pine]

For 9 delves you gotta do 25 different patchwerk sims with 1-27 targets and random fight lengths to even have a chance at clearing them

[soft shale]

abyssal trap is uncapped tho

has its uses

[pallid bough]

go do some high keys (9s) first and then talk to me buddy

[soft shale]

sadly not for us mortals

[dawn heath]

Dont @me unless you time 7s

[balmy condor]

yes, that happens

[runic hinge]

Thank you for the help

[soft shale]

big candle

[balmy condor]

trinkets are not hard set stone cold tier list slop

there's many trinkets

[waxen oyster]

unless they make

obscenely broken trinkets

[balmy condor]

many of them are complicated

[waxen oyster]

but then the m+ andys cry

when they make busted raid trinkets

[dull cloak]

am i gonna regret passing hero ritual knife for mythic tier chest

[waxen oyster]

just get one from a map silly

[balmy condor]

depends what else you got

[waxen oyster]

[runic hinge]

What if I sprint then shadow step tho

[spice spire]

No because in 2 months it likely won’t matter

[ruby birch]

Wish the best for you guys

[spice spire]

You too JPS

[past panther]

do we run the movement speed or crit blasphemite?

[waxen oyster]

I mean that's a personal choice

[slate crown]

0.6% crit damage

[past panther]

move speed it is

[cerulean nest]

is it normal for the patch/ascension to sim lower than 2x focus lens?

[slate crown]

Everyone still goes crit blasphemite

[spice spire]

Don’t listen to LE, she’s trying to manipulate the market to buy her gems

[slate crown]

Those fuckers fly off the shelf

[past panther]

lol

movespeed sounds rly nice for raid and m+

[waxen oyster]

I mean....rogue doesn't need the movespeed one imo

slower classes its nice

[wise gull]

Ascension + Lens sims higher than patch for me too

[slate crown]

Nah buddy I craft both of those at max it doesn't matter ***but you better buy one of them ***

[past panther]

rogue is slow i miss burst of speed 😦

[cerulean nest]

I haven’t tried 1 lens ascension

[crisp pine]

TRUE

[waxen oyster]

💀

[cerulean nest]

just 2 lens

[spice spire]

I’m gonna check seller and not pick you on purpose

[tired gull]

spammable bos was bis

[waxen oyster]

i mean pirate still is a ferrari

...when your hook works

[slate crown]

[spice spire]

[slate crown]

Pretty sure you can't check seller on commodities

[spice spire]

Maybe you can’t

But I’m different

[waxen oyster]

Tbh

I wonder how good the BRD is going to be

since it can drop hero

probably mid tier since game is much different now

[wise gull]

OH proc dagger maybe

[serene mason]

Someone using Plater here?
Maybe also using "Buff Special" to track Kingsbane/Deathmark?
When i´m on my Evoker and i use "only mine" option checked. I can see the Deathmarks from others rogues. (its the same profil as for my rogue, i guess Ceverions Plater Profile).
Its stopped working with some Update of Plater or the Profile i guess. Only solution is to fully blacklist the both spells.

[vale lantern]

literally dropped my last run yesterday and then blizzard does this to me

[short flint]

dude wow

[waxen oyster]

i had that happen with phial in plaguefall

[tired gull]

useful vault? what did you sacrifice

[short flint]

mythic skardens

[waxen oyster]

2 seasons in a row

[vale lantern]

all of florida as im in direct path of the hurricane

[pliant remnant]

[royal lantern]

not enough to be a DH

[tired gull]

good value

[short flint]

okay spyglass is simming higher now. had and enchant overidding so figured out what i was messing up

[crisp pine]

So you had spyglass simming lower
and then you played around with the sim until spyglass was simming higher
And now you're happy?

is that some hidden tech

[runic hinge]

Yeah I just sim once and I’m happy

Crazy tech tbh

[rigid tartan]

just in case anyone doesnt know, first boss Siege of Boralus aoe is not able to be immuned with cloak/evasion ._.

[balmy condor]

correct

[faint aurora]

even if skardyns grace sims a bit lower, i think in reality it should be higher in a m+ run?

[blissful storm]

One thing that is unclear to me in thistle tea do we use it once during shiv (shiv is 8sec, tea is 6 sec buff) or are we using two teas during one shiv so we cover whole 8sec duration of it?

[balmy condor]

phys damage swirl

[spice spire]

If you need energy

[balmy condor]

probably should just take it for the single target

[faint aurora]

i dont know i just asume, having that with or without cds on demand. Blows up even fortified mobs

[red hearth]

so, question for Terror.
How do people cope with Deathstalker's Mark?
I can try to spend everything to be in the TDN phase (assuming adds die in 60s ofc) but... switching to adds feels like a huge damage drop
Or do you actually try to have Mark up on Terror while you do the adds, or does it not matter?

(in the end, skill issue, I guess, but switching from boss just feels bad this time, period)

[balmy condor]

terror like the end boss of siege?

[red hearth]

Horror, sorry.

[coral ibex]

get capstone before going down

[spice spire]

Oh second boss In raid

[coral ibex]

unfortunately deathstalker/assa generally just sucks at target swapping

[spice spire]

Yeah keep smashing until you get dn and then envenom an add and get it rolling again

[balmy condor]

^

[spice spire]

To which

[balmy condor]

to you

I mean

[red hearth]

thanks, will try.

[balmy condor]

both I guess

y'all said the same thing

[red hearth]

guess it comes down to pooling energy timing

[waxen oyster]

what the heck is horror

oh bloodbound

[torpid lion]

fighting with guildie rn, does nature damage from trinkets and rings spread from caustic?

[balmy condor]

no

[spice spire]

Easy geararang

[torpid lion]

what about increaesd from mastry

[balmy condor]

trinkets and the ring don't interact with anything on our spec

[nova flax]

no

[coral ibex]

rip bottle flaywing

[balmy condor]

and that's a regular thing across the game

[torpid lion]

aces thanks

[balmy condor]

"increased fire damage" on a fire mage shouldn't be buffing a fire trinket

same thing for us

everything is defined in a white list

[waxen oyster]

doesnt sub's lingering shadows buff mandate

[balmy condor]

and if it's not in the list

[waxen oyster]

small indie company

[balmy condor]

it doesn't get buffed

[spice spire]

Shadows buffing things it shouldn’t

[tired gull]

which is why our 2pc was sucking

[spice spire]

Name a more iconic duo

[cedar elm]

!faq

[spice spire]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[spice spire]

FaQ lot of work

The man can only do so much

[coral ibex]

do we know if wax on both weapons works or should it just be mh

[runic hinge]

It was doing like .8 the other night

Idk if that’s good or bad

[spice spire]

Just mh afaik

[coral ibex]

that's how much its doing for me on mh too

[balmy condor]

@novel star just btw, the reason my glow wasn't working on my plater wasn't because my code was bad, the code worked great actually. I was tracking the spell id of deathmark, not the debuff id

[sinful elk]

I was so much better at pooling when operating with 100 energy. Might need an egregious Envenom buff WA in the middle of my screen

Starving the heck outta myself regularly

[onyx scroll]

Isn't that a good thing for the most part as long as you keep the envenom chain going?

[balmy condor]

yeh sounds fine tbh

[runic hinge]

What’s the easiest way to update a plater

[novel star]

lmao

at least it wasn’t something too bricked

[waxen oyster]

ask raidbots

[balmy condor]

there's a wago client

[spice spire]

Download wago client

[balmy condor]

and then you can hit the button

[spice spire]

Did last night

Busted

[balmy condor]

maybe don't even need the client for platers

[honest needle]

@spice spire is it better to upgrade my 2nd crafted piece to 636 my wrist or is it better to upgrade my myth bis neck or my tier gear first ?

[spice spire]

Rawdogged that shit for too long

[balmy condor]

now that I think about it

[torpid lion]

was there any final verdict on if the bubbling wax bugs have been fixed

[novel star]

anyways just read the pin 🤤 5% for me yummy yum

[balmy condor]

still buggy mess

[spice spire]

You can sim it buddy

[glad kraken]

is it just me or is FB simming higher than DS for anyone else? or is it just cause DS sims are slightly broken rn? **singletarget

[spiral gale]

"read pins" what language is this

[novel star]

@balmy condor was the tier change what u predicted where it’s just the mastery list or naw

[runic hinge]

Oh okay I see

[balmy condor]

fatebound good, sims higher for plenty of people, but yes the deathstalker sims are a bit under

[upper wraith]

idk man I just hit the dummies for 5 mins and im doing a bit more today than yesterday

[balmy condor]

yeah pretty much

[novel star]

swag

[balmy condor]

wait that's crazy what could've happened between yesterday and today

[honest needle]

@spice spire i cant sim it takes forever and it dont let me do all my gear whats more important

[novel star]

as expected when you get a 5% buff you do 5% more damage on average

[balmy condor]

he's memeing

[upper wraith]

hehe

[novel star]

i’m too tired for this

[balmy condor]

same

I've just seen enough boxd messages to know he's not an ape

[upper wraith]

side note. chedder parm cheezits slap

[balmy condor]

so he goes on my "probably shitposting if says dumb thing" list in my head

[novel star]

too many names in this discord idk who’s ape or not

[balmy condor]

just be as chronically online as me

[spice spire]

I’m ape

#1

[novel star]

unless they’re like every day spam common

[glad kraken]

ty

[novel star]

Ya

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[novel star]

unlucky

[heady plaza]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[novel star]

no update

[spice spire]

They’re people too

Not machines that live and breathe wow

Ik fuu will update

[novel star]

not true

https://tenor.com/view/pingimonch-mingipingi-pingo-minki-pingi-gif-27642873

[runic hinge]

More like gorilla

[novel star]

aren’t they the same

[spice spire]

The way I got that grip true

[novel star]

what’s the difference

are gorillas just larger apes

[balmy condor]

I literally just pushed it

5.2.2-28 should be newest

[novel star]

no excuses buddy.

[cursive owl]

henwo whispyr

[balmy condor]

hi

[upper wraith]

well butter my bread

[magic dust]

do i understand the pin correctly? "the things that are now affected by the 2 piece are not affected by the 2 piece in sims". this does not apply to actually ingame though right? so no buggy shit?

[spice spire]

He’s going to eat ur ass oli

Correct

[novel star]

i’m glad

[balmy condor]

affected in game, not affected in sims

[magic dust]

so were good okay

ty

[balmy condor]

okay HDR gamer

[prime hull]

Did i misread the pin or ingame is a 5% buff and in the sim it is only 3% because the sim does not match ingame?

[solar orbit]

we sim patchwerk for raid and dslice for m+?

[balmy condor]

screaming

[novel star]

yes

[spice spire]

Correct @ both

[balmy condor]

yes

[prime hull]

Thank you

[upper wraith]

I swear its not HDR

[balmy condor]

your contrast is just eye-melting without it?

[novel star]

brotha plays with maxed out gamma

[upper wraith]

I like to make sure I get a migrane following my depleted keys

[solar orbit]

do you guys play caustic on queen and ovinax?

[spark mason]

idk how y'all play this spec, I can't wrap my head around it at all lmfao

[novel star]

Ya

[solar orbit]

this spec is pretty easy to play

[waxen oyster]

I mean sin is honestly the simplest

of the 3

[spice spire]

This is easy.
I hate myself

[novel star]

i press buttons when they are falling off

[spice spire]

Rogue is one of the harder classes fwiw

[novel star]

that’s about it really

[waxen oyster]

That's concerning

lmfao

[solar orbit]

outlaw is carpal tunnel simulator and sub is masochism simulator

[spark mason]

I'm a poor healer trying to step into the dps world 😦

[solar orbit]

I find healing harder to do than dps, but maybe that's my pvp brain

[waxen oyster]

Idk what the outlaw carpal tunnel complaint is about

I feel it's hyperbole

[novel star]

i recommend reading le guide

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[waxen oyster]

Since I never get handpain playing that spec.

[runic hinge]

You’re a degen tho

[spark mason]

I was trying to read the wowhead one and practice on target dummies for AOE but I always seem to be doing it wrong

[runic hinge]

I mean built different

[waxen oyster]

I have over 2k hours on osu

[solar orbit]

record yourself

[waxen oyster]

tyvym

[runic hinge]

Time for your wrist stretches babe

[spice spire]

Yeah degen

[novel star]

whispyr also has video guides for raid and m+

[solar orbit]

a friend of mine has carpal tunnel and suffers from playing league of legends, you can imagine how it would be if he tried to play outlaw lol

[spark mason]

Yeah I'm at the point where I am doing 13s and 14s for IO and healing just sucks ass there. Either I'm only healing like 300k-500k specifically during unavoidable pulsing AOE or a dps gets 1shot form a cast going off and not using a defensive

[remote trellis]

whispyrs video guides are insanely good

[novel star]

they’re a little outdated for like bugs and whatever but

i think he mentions what the changes will be post bugfixes

in the vids anyway

so ya

[solar orbit]

does that help?

[novel star]

rotation stuff all the same

[spice spire]

Oh ur about to be chuckling with dps then

[novel star]

assassination aoe is just

[spark mason]

so I should watch whispyrs vids then go back over the guide and to attempt to make sense of it lol

[novel star]

maintain 5 ruptures + ct + caustic

and spam fan envenom

[balmy condor]

basically yeh

energy -> ct -> caustic

repeat cycle for 45 minutes

key done

[remote trellis]

[novel star]

truly brain off

[slate crown]

Simple as

[novel star]

i like playing brain off spec though

can focus more on the mechanics i’m still fucking up

99% brain power going into failure

pog

swirly only diet

[acoustic roost]

Use brain power to call out other people’s mistakes. More fun

[novel star]

aintnoway

[spice spire]

I use my brain power to int my key

[runic hinge]

Yes. You should be doing wrist stretches if you’re at your computer a lot

[spice spire]

[ocean stirrup]

Hey boys, does anyone know why the sudden change between the Ascension/Darkness embelish for the double gem embelish?

[novel star]

same

[spice surge]

Do you have a dagger to amplify your intellect?

[spice spire]

Yeah I got the JB special and crafted the wrong one

[prime hull]

If i have full combo points, DN buff, and SND when i go to next pack, should I start with DN or Crimson Tempest?

[spice spire]

Envenom

But also

[novel star]

[spice spire]

You want to spread your bleeds

Spread rupture and garrotes etc

[drifting cloud]

how about you spread some cheeks

[spice spire]

I might

Yours

[prime hull]

Yeah I was thinking it was maybe a waste to spread bleeds for 6 globals and then finally envenom when i had darkest night the whole time

[spice spire]

You can launch on envenom especially if ticker is close

And then just spread the bleeds for the next bit

[runic dirge]

any info on crafted dagger here?

[spice spire]

Then CT and probably another dn here

[novel star]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[runic dirge]

ty ty

[prime hull]

I guess without full combo points but 5-6 maybe I start with crimson tempest and then garrotes/ruptures?

[spice spire]

Nah I’d definitely go ruptures first. You have a limited window where they spread

So you want to send those before

[true rapids]

plater

[spice spire]

!plater

[uneven plume]

shit vault

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
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[prime hull]

Makes sense, thank you

[spice spire]

?

[novel star]

you would start with ruptures in all situations except when DN duration is too low i’m pretty sure

[ionic fox]

Is it just the sims that are showing a decrease in aoe because of the new things added to 2 piece?

[novel star]

pins

[ionic fox]

i know

i read it

it says the sims

[novel star]

then your question is answered

[spice spire]

Yeah sims are lower than they should be

[ionic fox]

so in game is not affected

[spice spire]

Because it isn’t all quite implemented

[round harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-gif-3451779043800554758

[ionic fox]

thats the question

[spice spire]

Correct

[spice spire]

It’s a net gain

[balmy condor]

that's like the 5th question in 20 minutes

how do I reword it

[normal mist]

"fuck you"

[ionic fox]

maybe the word :just" xD

[glad iris]

does this buff seem completely insane

[normal mist]

but in a nice way

[runic hinge]

No

Say it in a mean way

[balmy condor]

"some of the things that are now affected by the 2 piece are not being affected by the 2 piece in sims"

feels like

crystal clear to me

idk how to fix it

[round harbor]

sometimes just closing discord is bis

lol

[spice spire]

Tl;dr - Sims haven’t been fully implemented for 2p and show a slight loss but in game everything functions as intended

[ionic fox]

mhmmm yeah I am just dumb wording is fine

lul

[spice spire]

I mean

If it were just you

Sure

[balmy condor]

yeah flipping it I guess makes sense

[novel star]

i think the whole “without that” section could just be removed

and maybe a few words added in the part above for clarity but

[prime hull]

To be honest, maybe it's because English is my second language I was a bit confused at first. Maybe lead with the ingame buff amounts (5%) then mention in raidbots we are missing 2% of unimplemented talents which will be added soon?

[novel star]

that’s the only bit i can see misleading

[prime hull]

There is 2 big paragraphs about the raidbots problem versus a quick mention of it's OK ingame

[balmy condor]

The bad news is that sims aren't fully reflecting the buffs yet. In game everything is buffed and working, but simulations are missing the deathstalker/vicious buffs from the 2 piece. This is causing sims to undervalue the buffs and should be fixed soon

[spice spire]

Seems good

May still get questions from skimmers

[harsh ingot]

anyone know the dps difference between bubbling wax and ironclaw whetstones?

[balmy condor]

depends on how much the wax bugs for you

in a perfect world, like 0.1-0.2%

[spice spire]

Also had a neat bug last night

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

Where I couldn’t reapply wax 🙂

[balmy condor]

sick

[spice spire]

Doz could

He was chuckling

Outlaw diff

[runic hinge]

Outplayed and outsmarted

[spice spire]

He did 0.01m more damage than me that dungeon (he was receiving PI from the priest )

[balmy condor]

doesn't he play exclusively outlaw

[bronze dune]

praise the vault for it has delievered

[ionic fox]

wait what is bubbling wax lul

late to this xpac

[balmy condor]

rogue-only

free whetstones

[ionic fox]

omg

[balmy condor]

that are bugged to shit

[ionic fox]

ahhhh

should I keep using ironclaw for M+ then?

[balmy condor]

if the money ain't an issue yeah

I just use rank 2's

[prime hull]

You are richer than me, I use hissing runes in dungeons.

[ionic fox]

if only the rank 2s were actually cheaper lol

[balmy condor]

there's like all sorts of random shit with wax

like it doesn't stack

so you only do 1 hand

and it like sometimes just stops working

[ionic fox]

damn... cool idea to give rogues something then it just doesnt work

[balmy condor]

maybe on death but also maybe not

[spice surge]

Thats peak rogue things

[mellow copper]

How much mastery does 639 Skardyn give ? I cant find it on wowhead 😄

[ionic fox]

can't be obtained

[balmy condor]

wowhead doesn't show it for it might crush the minds of the weak

number is simply too high

[mellow copper]

😄

[spice spire]

He did play outlaw

[civic tide]

can someone explain how to kill zekvir on ?? as assa?

[novel star]

hit bug

kick bug

[spice spire]

Very carefully.
Gear and kb for egg is apparently the trick

[distant plinth]

Didnt they fix this or?

[civic tide]

bug hits me for 11m hp 🙂

[novel star]

idunno then

[topaz crystal]

Hi guys, new here. I have a question about ST raid rotation. Do you guys think its worth it to save your first echo charge to reapply deathsmark?

[spice spire]

Nah if you find it just send it

[topaz crystal]

and also how energy efficient is it to use fan of knives to get 1 point for a 5 point combo

[novel star]

no

[topaz crystal]

oh rly? so it probably feels good to me but mathematically doesnt work out long term for dps maximization?

[spice spire]

Oh absolutely not to this! Unless you’re not running vicious venoms and have a clear the witnesses proc

[novel star]

because er is rng

you cant guarantee landing on it

[topaz crystal]

what would you do if you have 4 points and you need 1 more to consume a mark point

[novel star]

mutilate again

[keen spruce]

Mutilate

[topaz crystal]

what if low energy

[novel star]

the part ur forgetting is that mutilate also does damage

[runic hinge]

Mutilate

[keen spruce]

You just don’t play around empowered CP

[novel star]

and a fucking lot more than fan

[topaz crystal]

OHHHH