assassination

[glacial crypt]

mad queens into heroic endboss ring sent me

while my main got socket and a ring

[warm vortex]

Inb4 like 9 cloaks

[spice spire]

This rat almost more geared than me wtf

[glacial crypt]

it has done nothing this week hang on

[warm vortex]

Tbh I m just jealous of mad queens and ring

[glacial crypt]

😭

SO AM I

[spice spire]

[subtle tundra]

im finishing the tier without ring probably

[frank condor]

general dps question: I think I am running into this problem commonly in ST maybe others are too. should we be prioritizing envenom buff uptime over cycling DSM/DN? Often I am chugging teas to keep up energy which doesnt last forever ofc. the ass guide doesn't really say one way or another

[warm vortex]

I’ve been doing nothing but GB in my spare time this week and raids and gotten slapped by the hand of fate

[subtle tundra]

without the ring at all

[past panther]

do you play fatebound or ds?

[glacial crypt]

ds gang

[past panther]

gang gang

[warm vortex]

Me to (ring on heroic most likely)

[glacial crypt]

haven't touched fatebound since ptr testing

[warm vortex]

We have DKP and like 3 people are on max

[slim pebble]

Wtf. I have like two more ilvl on my main

[warm vortex]

And haven’t spent any this season

[past panther]

are your sims telling you to go that low on mastery or is it just how your stats landed with ilvl upgrades?

[glacial crypt]

I've not put any thought into this char

at all

this was 5th rogue for splits

[past panther]

I gotcha

[glacial crypt]

i crafted everything at 590 with crit mastery

[past panther]

how many do you have o-o

[glacial crypt]

didn't think about anything at all

don't worry it's just 6 total

[nova aspen]

how long is maint supposed to be today boys

[past panther]

however long blizz rolls the die for

[nova aspen]

before the inevitable extended news

[faint vessel]

already up

[past panther]

you know 4 hr = 8 hr for blizz

[warm vortex]

Stats are juicy too

[onyx linden]

Quick target dummy testing, seems set piece is 100% uptime 10 stacks in single target

[warm vortex]

Yes ik they don’t matter for assa

But still

[hollow talon]

Did we get buffed yet

[onyx linden]

yes

[warm vortex]

[past panther]

most of my tier pieces are still low ilvl, 1 even stuck on veteran, but I’ve wound up with a shit ton of mastery

[glacial crypt]

I've lied

[warm vortex]

I’ve got like one piece on myth

[glacial crypt]

I done first boss mythic on this and group couldn't kill 2nd so I dipped

[warm vortex]

Like 618 ilevel

[hollow talon]

What are you guys making with spark this week, ring or sim

[glacial crypt]

but that's not a vault slot

😠

[warm vortex]

Still got some slop non hero items

[past panther]

I’ve yet to see a myth track piece lol I’ve only done 7’s and 8’s

I mostly do m+ with friends and we always get NW at 9 or higher

[warm vortex]

Intellect dagger

[past panther]

and no one is about that life

[glacial crypt]

yes team

[warm vortex]

Because I need to become smarter

[past panther]

based

[warm vortex]

No WE need to become smarter

[coral ibex]

ooo game is up

[warm vortex]

I’d be up for trying 11s and maybe even a 12 if I had time

[past panther]

prob belt or cape with my 2nd dawnthread lul

[glacial crypt]

come on NA reseters how up and give us vault images

[warm vortex]

Uni is time consuming

[glacial crypt]

too real

[past panther]

i have a full time job with 2 kids so i understand

[warm vortex]

Like at 2.43K rating I think

[past panther]

lol im at like 1.8k

[warm vortex]

I have only done a CoT on a 6 so I can hit hero

[warm vortex]

I don’t have kids but I have a job so I can relate to the job part

[past panther]

I only do 3-5 m+’s a week and lately my tank friend has been inting them hard

[coral ibex]

wtf i logged in and the vault hasn't reset yet

[spice spire]

13m

[past panther]

reset is at 10 central

[glacial crypt]

write a strongly worded letter

[novel star]

well yeah it’s not reset time

[past panther]

13 more minutes

[novel star]

just maintenance end

[blazing pumice]

yes, they did a timely maintenance

[warm vortex]

Dude your a rogue

[coral ibex]

reset isn't at the start of maint?

[warm vortex]

Break into the vault

[past panther]

first time the whole expansion

[coral ibex]

[junior shore]

first one this xpac

yeah exactly

[coral ibex]

who came up with that one

[novel star]

no

[past panther]

been what.. almost 2 months?

[novel star]

always been this way i think

[wanton mirage]

Gl on vaults today boys.

[spice spire]

Nope. It’s 8 PST every time

[past panther]

maint is when blizz gets to office

[spice spire]

🙂

[coral ibex]

fugma

[spice spire]

Gl homies

[spice spire]

I might

[warm vortex]

I still find it funny the “””””buffs””””””

[nova aspen]

[warm vortex]

They gave sub

[nova aspen]

give me something i can wear

[warm vortex]

Are so shit unless they added more

[glacial crypt]

oho

[spice spire]

Like lingerie or?

[glacial crypt]

YO

[nova aspen]

[glacial crypt]

RELAX

[past panther]

pretty jewelry (the queen ring) can def be included in lingerie

[nova aspen]

no not lingerie

[past panther]

aw

[glacial crypt]

it's exiting the chat time

[spice spire]

[glacial crypt]

gl with reset

[past panther]

[spice spire]

[nova aspen]

i cant open the vault for another 4 hours anyway

i let it cook

[spice spire]

Simmer

Smart

I got 10? 11?

[warm vortex]

I can’t for another day or so

Less than a day but still

[nova aspen]

just don't over cook it

[novel star]

skardyns this week

for every good innocent child

in the discord

[past bobcat]

Interested to see how much the st buffs really are

[novel star]

ye

could be fat

[cinder quartz]

GL vaults americans

[warm vortex]

Watch someone get ring + mandate + grace in the vault

They can only chose one and can’t get any other for the rest of the season cause of luck

[spice spire]

Ty Joey

[proven jasper]

Sub buffs

[novel star]

fraud spec fraud buffs

[royal lantern]

in that case ut would be

grace>ring>mandate

idk, not a hard choice

[warm vortex]

Yeye ofc

It’s less so about the optimal part, more so the mental damage of being flipped off by the hand of fate

[onyx linden]

flensing still exists, they didnt fix that

[strange python]

Did reset happen yet ?

[onyx linden]

set piece buff looks strong too

[spice spire]

5m for NA

[slim pebble]

I work until 530 central. Why hasn’t blizzard made a way to remotely check our vault

[spice spire]

Real

I’m not able to check until 19:30 CST

[warm vortex]

I left home at 7am and won’t come back until like
10pm? Unless I leave lecture early kek

[split cipher]

You can remote from your phone, but it'll be a point and click adventure

[slim pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[split cipher]

I did it to get in queue for classic when it launched while i was at work

[spice spire]

[proven jasper]

Real dedication to the cause right there

[iron valve]

y'all are addicts lmao

[warm vortex]

To be fair

It was classic

I didn’t play it but

Weren’t queues like 17 years

[true shadow]

so far ST dps on dummies with 4pc feels worse to me. anyone else finding this?

[slim pebble]

Reset hasn’t happened yet

I thought

[split cipher]

If you got home at 4 your queue would be ready at 7am

[spice spire]

I’m only addicted to gains

Ya feel me

[slim pebble]

It’s time

[spice spire]

2m

Hold

[novel star]

one single myth slot

[bright charm]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-any-gif-26357631

[novel star]

it will be skardyns.

i deserve it

[warm vortex]

Tbh
I hope people don’t have a vault that looks like

_ _

[lunar pond]

Ocarina’s for all

[spice spire]

Good luck friends

[novel star]

i would do something permanent

[warm vortex]

_ _

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-british-food-mods-low-tier-god-gif-9108075214677777615

[warm vortex]

Alright

[spice spire]

How about you permanently get some bitches

[warm vortex]

British food is great
Looks grim, but tastes nice tbf

Mainly because the British didn’t invent most of their food

[blazing pumice]

game hates me

[spice spire]

0 seasoning mfs

[novel star]

i’m trying

[proven jasper]

Imagine waking up at like 7 am and standing in line for hours for a potato with cheese and beans on it

[crude anvil]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

Though I do agree a lot of their good food is not British founded

[novel star]

i love a beautiful woman and i think she loves me but i don’t know

[spice spire]

I’ve seen some good stuff

[spice spire]

Send it bud

[warm vortex]

Tastes amazing, not amazing enough to wait in a line for that long tho

[onyx linden]

garbage as always

[spice spire]

Life too short to be scared

[novel star]

🫡

[proven jasper]

I mean thats my thing, thats like the easiest thing ever to make at home

[nocturne jasper]

may your vaults bless you all

[warm vortex]

Yea

[spice spire]

Potatoes can be fine co Suning

[spice spire]

Good shit

[warm vortex]

Food itself is amazing but don’t wait in line for it

Fish n chips, that’s another story

[spice spire]

The neck tho

[flat kindle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[glacial crypt]

TAKE THE NECK

[cinder bone]

oh damn

fuck

[glacial crypt]

DO NOT TAKE THE FARMABLE TRINKET

I BEG

[spice spire]

[cinder bone]

I DIDNT TAKE YET

[glacial crypt]

LMFAO

[warm vortex]

Idk
That non set piece chest

Looking fresh

[spice spire]

Bro why is top right a helm from sepulcher

[iron valve]

damn, lucky boy

[warm vortex]

Last week I was pissed at my loot cause I got myth shoulders set (I thought I already had it but I didn’t, getting it would
Let me get 4 set via cata)
Silliest moment in wow

[spice spire]

Good vault

[desert vault]

Vaults be blessed today! Should get a one time 2x reward for the season 😄

[spice spire]

If you’d done that ten sac woulda been kinda juice too

[spice spire]

Suffering from success

[hallow glade]

Came here to brag

[cobalt sphinx]

skardyns seems extremely common

[spice spire]

Whoever said they’d take a shot for every skardyns

Isn’t lying

[warm vortex]

Bro this is making me hyped to get vault tokens to add a socket to gear

[spice spire]

They seem very dead

[warm vortex]

Instead of an upgrade

[winged widget]

it definitely did

[spice spire]

A socket is an upgrade

We’re 4 shots deep btw

[warm vortex]

But it’s not grace :(

[desert vault]

Oh damn, I didn't know Skardyn's wasn't BiS for ST, thought it would be better

[warm vortex]

Or mad queens
Or a ring
Or an up to the 2 non hero slots

[spice spire]

Grace is how you take the L king, never forget

[spice spire]

Huh?

[warm vortex]

What’s ahead?

[novel star]

geararang

[warm vortex]

Like MqM? Isn’t grace still good

[novel star]

my friend got myth skardyns and isnt taking it

it's so fucking over

[spice spire]

Cursed vault

[warm vortex]

Yikes

[novel star]

i cant take it man

[desert vault]

Was just looking at Fuu's sheet, has Spyglass and stuff on there at least

[spare lodge]

u should take mythic trinket 🙂

[lime pelican]

geararang on my chest

[novel star]

ya probably

[spice spire]

I might

[true shadow]

yea ST definitely feeling worse to me on a dummy so far :\

[warm vortex]

How

[cobalt sphinx]

the dummy sims

you love to see it

[spice spire]

[zenith wasp]

🤔

[lime pelican]

its socket angle im afraid

[spice spire]

That’s pretty good

[warm vortex]

Tbh
I don’t think dead eyes is an up for me

[spice spire]

Got heroic dead eye and it was a bit for me

[royal lantern]

you are pretty and good

[spice spire]

No u

[true shadow]

I mean its not scientific, but its lower than last week

[nova aspen]

so many myth skardyns wtf

rigged

[warm vortex]

Got like sacbrood and dawn trink

I think it’s an upgrade over dawn in AoE? I remember simming spyglass over st and it simmed lower than arsenal and poison from NW

[nova aspen]

[spice spire]

Yeah they took them all for the week

[warm vortex]

Must have been bigger or smth

[true shadow]

someone else test ST on dummy and let me know what you get

[placid adder]

Sus

[spice spire]

Gg homies go next week

[warm vortex]

Leaving the EU players w nothing

[willow cloud]

Why does the wowhead BiS gear list include the tier chest? I am looking at my vault, my mythic track options are tier gloves and chest, which both seem underwhelming, but both are considered overall BiS.

[kind forge]

if you press your buttons as hard as last week you should do more

[warm vortex]

True

[spice spire]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[lime pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-wahh-wild-go-gif-13490041

eu players watching na rn

[warm vortex]

Does moroes have any stupid commands

Like joke ones

[subtle tundra]

i just want to find a woman to love

so far, nada

[warm vortex]

I just want to find

[indigo elk]

VS myth Helm

[vague flare]

https://i.imgur.com/9Yn5rs1.png 🤮

[warm vortex]

The ring

[warm vortex]

Pendant

[vague flare]

what the fuck is mistcaller ocarina

[royal lantern]

are you raiding mythic

[warm vortex]

Isn’t that p good?

[slim pebble]

Ocarina bis

[indigo elk]

The ring isnt myth though

[indigo elk]

going to prog firs 4 myth soon but havent started, just got aotc last week

[spice surge]

Well are you killing mythic ansurek soon

[warm vortex]

Ah fair

True

[vague flare]

i have the neck at 613, sims are saying to take the shoulders for a 4 i level upgrade. taking the neck means i gotta spend 50k gold on it too

[royal lantern]

take ring then, the first boss drops a mythic head piece

[spice surge]

Because thats the only thing you could do to get a better ring than that

[warm vortex]

Why 50K

[vague flare]

or w/e it costs to put 2 sockets

[median igloo]

https://i.imgur.com/ib7WI2W.png

[spice spire]

Sockets

[median igloo]

og god

[warm vortex]

Ah fair

[vague flare]

wtf

[spice spire]

Shot #6

[kind forge]

holy

[slim pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[warm vortex]

Dude that’s fucking insane

[indigo elk]

alright thanks

[vague flare]

can this be pinned what the fuck

[spice spire]

Nah

[indigo elk]

okay thanks !

[bright charm]

alchol poisoning

[dapper cradle]

boutta open vault and get my skardyn's

ez

[warm vortex]

Genuinely the best vault I’ve ever seen in my life holy fuck

[hot nexus]

empowering crystal or spyglass?

[median igloo]

i don't even know where to start

[strange trail]

GG

[dapper cradle]

i'm still using the 606 vet track one from week 1

[warm vortex]

Sim

[royal lantern]

time spam both in tradechat

[warm vortex]

At least you HAVE one

[royal lantern]

and ask "are they good??"

[warm vortex]

True

Reminds me hold on

Can’t find it but someone whispered the top arcane mage in our guilds he got sac

Next thing he saw

[bright charm]

so like could you just list off six 2 digit numbers for me thanks

[warm vortex]

“Message is potentially offensive”

[vague flare]

u guys taking the neck here for 10 i level (and -30k gold) or the shoulders for 4 i level

dogshit vault

[cedar hare]

How is the dps increas looking?

[vague flare]

shoulders are +2k dps

[blazing pumice]

ocarina is bis

[vague flare]

oh actually i may have not put the sockets and shit on the neck

let me re sim

[cobalt sphinx]

you should be 619 in all slots, how can you be mad about a 623

[vague flare]

-15k compared to my ara kara at 606 Lmao

[cedar hare]

Shoulders Ur never gonna replace

[vague flare]

im not exactly mad i was just really hoping for one of ara kara or skardyns cuz i cant get them to drop in keys

[kind forge]

myth track set shoulders sound good to me

[vague flare]

yeah i prob just take shoulders

[kind forge]

feel ya

[cedar hare]

Shoulders 100% UR never gonna replace them ??

[thorn crater]

now THAT is a very tough choice holy shit

[median igloo]

tell me about it. it's probably skardyn's but damn man

[novel star]

myth skardyns free

[thorn crater]

i mean it has to be skardyn's but

damn

[cedar hare]

Skardyn, BiS trinket 100%

[thorn crater]

prolly getting wrists across teh board next week

[median igloo]

lol

[prime hull]

Congratulations on skardyns grace. I hope I have one in my vault as well.

[dapper cradle]

no myth skardyn's this week 😦

surely next week

[tepid lichen]

surely

[nova aspen]

its skardyn's, everything else is technically farmable elsewhere

except spyglass

but skardyn is just better

[slim pebble]

Has anyone else done some target dummy mashing

[cedar hare]

How is the dps increas looking? Anyone done any sims ?

[barren sleet]

Telling me to take ring, but I feel like thats sadge

[cobalt sphinx]

you shouldn't be able to tell anything from target dummies apart from tincture uptime

don't waste your time

[cedar hare]

Well u have nothing better to take

[dawn heath]

anyone have a weakaura or something similar when your focus target is casting a spell. with a sound effect and also a bar that shows the focused cast

[coral ibex]

have you considered moving your focus frame to be more visible

[iron valve]

https://wago.io/S0t3UZ7sC I searched for two seconds on wago

[dawn heath]

tyvm

i had no results

lmao

💀

[blazing slate]

what should i do if the garrotes and ruptures from indiscriminate carnage run out, and all the targets are still alive and no vanish also?

[slim pebble]

Take a break

[crisp pine]

You rupture them manually

[split veldt]

start applying one by one

[slim pebble]

Drink some water. Press feint

[crisp pine]

macro feint to drinking water

[warm flint]

alt tab and launch league

[severe sparrow]

i love a good floor pov break tbh

good for a breather

[gloomy steppe]

Tough choice this morning

[crisp pine]

take the choker

[zenith prairie]

Can I evasion the first boss of nw spew thing

[gloomy steppe]

rippin it rn

[crisp pine]

indeed

[icy crater]

[iron valve]

do the sims for this item assume you're spreading it to someone? I don't know how I would check that

[blazing pumice]

they don't

[royal lantern]

choke me

[south token]

imagine posting a vault pic without mythic track skardyn's in it 💩

[novel star]

am i taking fucking serum man

[proper hare]

any knowers why i sim higher as fatebound vs deathstalker

[crisp pine]

Me, looking at my vault
straight up choking it

[rotund oak]

[novel star]

max upgraded gear is 0.3% and im not spending gilded on that piss trinket

[cold parcel]

curious, what would you guys choose from these two if they are both ilvl 626,

[novel star]

[crisp pine]

cause you're just that good

[gloomy steppe]

my dk got mythic mark, rogue had to make sacrifices

[proper hare]

guess im giving fatebound a go just in case >_> its 1.09 vs 1.1m somehow

[deft vault]

Are the buff not implemented in raidbot ?

[gloomy steppe]

Anyone checked if we still have flensing?

[spring prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/crunch-cat-luna-eat-gif-3997701764820700221

[proper hare]

dyselxia treating me well

[willow cloud]

what tier piece do we drop for BiS?

[spring prawn]

[gloomy steppe]

We do indeed still have flensing

[past panther]

it feels so shit to use

[novel star]

ya ik

[past panther]

SO bad

[tropic cedar]

[willow cloud]

I asked because I have to make a vault decision between mythic tier, or the higher simming cloak -- IOW, I already simmed myself, so that has nothing to do with what im asking

[spring prawn]

if ure doing m+ u want the cloak from (princess`?) anyways

or rash, forgott who drops it

[spice spire]

Rash

[spice spire]

Insignia by far

[willow cloud]

again, that has nothing to do with what im asking

which tier piece do we drop

[cinder quartz]

got an insignia with socket

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[cold parcel]

why by far? it's simming for like 15k less

[spice spire]

Did you put sockets in

Also it has stats + cantrips

[cinder quartz]

wait sockets dont matter

[spice spire]

Yeah you can buy sockets

[hot nexus]

this is hard af D:

[wispy epoch]

trecherous transmitter showed up, do i take it

[peak saffron]

mad queen's mandate. do we like that trinket or nah

[spice spire]

It’s not that hard

[spice spire]

A lot

Yes

[slate crown]

Imo great vault picks should be based on rarity and acquisition difficulty

competition of item

not actual sim output

[spice spire]

I’m a sub hater

[slate crown]

but that's just me

[severe meadow]

Speaking of, Mandate sims better than Spyglass?

[tranquil cobalt]

is crystal even good? i thought it was mid

[grim jay]

not as much as I like you

[spice spire]

Seems right

[hot nexus]

good for m+

[cinder quartz]

its prob your best non-skardyns. use skardyns with your DM, use mandate off cd otherwise

[reef frigate]

Anyone tested if crimson vial is enough for the afix?

[spice spire]

Mandate nutso

[wispy epoch]

???

[severe meadow]

Getting a 12k dps increase and really didn't expect it

[grim jay]

is that japanese

[wispy epoch]

do i get mythic boots or heroic trans...

[spice spire]

Transmitter is a sub trinket

[spring prawn]

chest

[hollow talon]

this is ASS

[wispy epoch]

oh...

[grim jay]

yeah BiS weapon is ass

[spice spire]

I mean it’s fine

[cold parcel]

but if our main stats are crit and mastery and that trinket barely has both then why would we pick it? just because it gives vers and vers isnt a main stat for us?

[spice spire]

Stop focusing stats

We have the command

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[spice spire]

You want them all

[proven jasper]

More stats = better

very simple

[slim pebble]

Man what kinda gear you got that you’re mad at BIS myth track weapon

[grim jay]

myth legs are pretty decent aswell

the neck is fine

[rocky sluice]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[barren sleet]

For the Algari gem, do we want one of each color or is there gem guide for dummies I can follow?

[hollow talon]

i already have that dagger at 626

but i guess i take it for mythic track

[steel geyser]

And now you can upgrade it to 639

[novel star]

ye but itd be 639

lmao

[spring prawn]

doesnt matter

[grim jay]

bro its the best upgrade of all the slots

[novel star]

u take that dagger and never take it off for the rest of the tier prob

[grim jay]

wtf

[novel star]

[hollow talon]

aight bet

[novel star]

sim anyway but yeh

[hollow talon]

i dont sim on vault day to let other peeople sim on vault loot im very mindful

[cinder bone]

so beautiful

[spice spire]

Hot

[steel geyser]

Neat

[novel star]

ur a sbottom

[cold parcel]

lol alright.. so choose the neck even if it is simming lower?

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/bestie-besties-so-true-so-true-bestie-kirby-gif-25485425

[spice spire]

Definitely not, Oli boy

[novel star]

[spice spire]

Did you socket it in your sim or just rawdog it?

[spice spire]

[slim pebble]

I rawdog everything else so why not sims

[glacial crypt]

[spice spire]

Lot

Oof

Yeah guess ur just sol

Sux

[tired gull]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

Explains the kids

[drifting bobcat]

Where the bugfix sims at

[spice spire]

Latest probably

Wait

Bug fix

[cold parcel]

LOL what do you meannn

so wtf should I do

[spring prawn]

delete character

[spice spire]

Take the L ig or hopefully you have something for more gain idk man

I’m no omnipotent being

[glacial crypt]

socket angle

[spice spire]

I’m just vibing

[real beacon]

can i apply garrote aoe when i don't have vanish?

[cold parcel]

😦

[reef frigate]

LOL, the affix can be dispelled with poison cleansing totems.

[iron orchid]

still doing god's work on US weekly reset

[novel star]

[cinder quartz]

4 out of 5 of my vaults gave me necrotic wake. something fishy 🐟 is going on

[spice spire]

As are you Mr. deïræ-hyjal (EU)

[novel star]

rsham wins again i guess..?

[spice spire]

Rsham can’t keep getting away with this

[slate crown]

reset day u know what that means

[limber lion]

Lalala

[spice spire]

We complain about our nerfs

[slate crown]

me getting away with it

[nova aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/smack-slap-fish-face-fail-gif-4653568

[novel star]

let me do 2 dummy pulls and talk about how it feels like my damage is lower so we must have been nerfed

or whatever that guy was cooking earlier in here

[spice spire]

Fuck she’s on the auction house grind

Mf hit gold cap 4x over

[grim jay]

what

did I miss something ungodly

[spice spire]

Nah

[novel star]

idk someone was saying it feels like st is lower

like 5 min after reset

just cope

[brave swift]

mythic helm with avoidance simming 20k
got a stiichflesh scalpel mythic as well but simming only 13k. thoughts?

[spice spire]

10m before too

[fallow canopy]

another week with my trusty veteran skardyn's grace in my loadout 😎 mythic ky'veza won't know what hit her

[novel star]

lmao true

[slate crown]

only 2x actually

[grim jay]

cant give you any thoughts without offering us the ilvl

[spice spire]

Tell her big dog

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-gif-26506627

[brave swift]

mythic track.

[spice spire]

623

What’s ur current atuff

[grim jay]

your previous head was mythic track? and your previous weapon was mythic track?

[brave swift]

ah

so hero helm to mythic track helm

[novel star]

i mean

[brave swift]

currently have regicide H to mythic scalpel

[grim jay]

what ilvl does the hero helm have tho. like if its 610

it obviously is gigantic

[novel star]

in ur mainhand?

[brave swift]

regicide is offhand atm due to crafted wep

[grim jay]

ye thats to be expected, its only a 3 ilvl mh upgrade with the big ilvl on the offhand

[brave swift]

current helm is 619

[novel star]

honestly when ur talking about mythic track shit and ur already done with crafts assuming u didnt waste any sparks on bullshit

u should sim like

ah nvm

i was gna say should sim fully upgraded

but u did

[brave swift]

ya i mean im 625 ilevel atm

[novel star]

just take the helm then

[grim jay]

its because your head is low

[novel star]

overall ilvl is fake and doesnt matter ever

ok thats not true

[grim jay]

and you have a 636 mh

[novel star]

but its not like relevant to itemization decisions

armor ilvl is a lot more valuable than offhand ilvl

[spice spire]

Reset day

[novel star]

and ur getting same total ilvl increase

[brave swift]

my guilds 2/8 mythic and im only rogue so ill probably see another dagger

[past bobcat]

Surely these are dungeonslice sims right lol

[brave swift]

soon anyways

[grim jay]

or atleast 3 MH ilvl and a few offhand ilvl 😛

[brave swift]

ya m+ is my priority

[spice spire]

[balmy path]

guy on raidbots the best for sim is dungeon slice?

[grim jay]

one of those drops a mythic head aswell

[spice spire]

He’s

Yes

Even

[past bobcat]

Lmao phew I was like am I really simming that far below

[novel star]

depends what you are simming for

if you are simming for dungeons then yeah

its better than other aoe sim options

[brave swift]

ya i can catalyst that one

the scalpel is like 2500 more than bloodhorror wep

on sim

so im basically looking at scalpel mythic rarity vs avoidance proc + ilevel gain atm

[grim jay]

ngl I'd probably sim with your head on 626 again

and then decide

because thats what you'll have in the next few days

[brave swift]

good idea let me run that

[grim jay]

your next upgrades should be trinkets, then chest and head to max ilvl

bcs those are the biggest gain

since one of those is head, its reasonable to sim that

[brave swift]

ya 30 grim batols latter

butmandate is good for raid

over nothing

honestly thinking of saving in case trinket finally drops

skardyns is simming like 55k for me atm

[median igloo]

oof, robot wants me take the ring

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eh8R9YR3rqJURMP5H385Ex

[grim jay]

how many crests do you have available this week if you farm to the cap?

[spice spire]

Well yeah you have 626 of both things

[soft shale]

you get 90 crests every week

[brave swift]

90 gilded and runed

[grim jay]

he couldve had some left over tho

[brave swift]

been trying to max out thinking ilevel will get me into 12 keys

8 hours in lfg later

[spice spire]

The myth skardyn is a forever upgrade

[grim jay]

ye its not as much ilvl as its rio

[spice spire]

And ring is replaceable with mythic ring

Idk

[brave swift]

i have that too but once ur full 11s

not much else u can go

[spice spire]

Just do 12s surely the level isn’t that bad

[grim jay]

yeah I'd just go with skardyns

[brave swift]

^

[grim jay]

spyglass isnt even necessarily your best option

the ring is only heroic

[median igloo]

true

[grim jay]

the back is first boss

[brave swift]

just craft a ring

[spice spire]

Not everyone one mythic raids

Fwiw

But I agree

You have like

[grim jay]

if he got the option I assume he killed it

[spice spire]

500 shots at ring

[grim jay]

oh you mean bcs mythic ring

[spice spire]

Yeah

[grim jay]

ye

its not even that big

[balmy path]

is telling me not to use my weapon crafted with ascension and to put the myth weapon from the vault

[grim jay]

if you get stacked rings

honestly

[grim jay]

bcs you probably didnt select the crafted

as offhand alternative

[spice spire]

He did

It’s the second option from the top

[grim jay]

oh

[spice spire]

No shot it’s a 20k diff for an offhand

[grim jay]

nvm

[balmy path]

20k more dps

[spice spire]

Unless it’s like

[cerulean walrus]

What ilvl is your crafted weapon?

[spice spire]

A 600

[cerulean walrus]

Lmao

[balmy path]

619

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah there you go

[slim pebble]

Yall are simming huge lol

[cerulean walrus]

But that's goofy

[spice spire]

No shot

[grim jay]

no wonder

if its that low

[spice spire]

Wait

Is this a dungeon slice sim

[cerulean walrus]

That's def DS

[grim jay]

can only be one

[spice spire]

Yeah

[cerulean walrus]

There's no way you're fucking 1.7m ST

[spice spire]

Then it makes sense

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy path]

y

[brave swift]

looks like wep

it is

[spice spire]

Embellishment isn’t ideal in n+

M+

[cerulean walrus]

Cause Ascension is dook in keys

Yeah

[spice spire]

Because it takes time to ramp

[true shadow]

try it and lmk. my sub st feels the same, but sin feels lower 🤷

[brave swift]

is this true even for 12+?

[cerulean walrus]

Bro shit dies so fast

[spice spire]

For adds absolutely

For boss

Probably a juicer

[grim jay]

yeah id take that for rarity alone

[limber lion]

Dawnthread big for keys

[grim jay]

odds of getting mythic head are higher

[limber lion]

Ascension meh

[brave swift]

ty for hand holding

[spice spire]

Yeah it is

[spice spire]

You giving or

[cerulean walrus]

I'll give you head quake

I got that myth track head

[grim jay]

my head is legendary, I promise you

[spice spire]

[grim jay]

[cerulean walrus]

[proven jasper]

bro got that mythical head

[cinder quartz]

yeah but i got heroic head

[spice spire]

God I should call her

[limber lion]

Now enchant it for big dam!

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah pulling the Incandescent Essence outta the bank RQ

[limber lion]

Very good

[cerulean walrus]

Vault was shit this week LMAO

[pliant terrace]

are the sin changes to the tier live now?

[cerulean walrus]

Shoulder catalyst angle

[spice spire]

Should be

[grim jay]

for NA beta testers they are live

[deep wave]

does no one care for r.io main score? i cant get my rogue into a +8 😢

[cinder bone]

yeah my ST is pumping in heroic raid rn

[cerulean walrus]

You're fighting against 2000000000 DPS

For a slot

[plush steppe]

Can anyone help me with the base stat%'s for secondary stats? like where should your secondary stats be for M+

[deep wave]

its my own key bro

[spice surge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[cerulean walrus]

Ah well

[spice spire]

Bro I don’t even care about what ever rio the person has

[cerulean walrus]

Bad IG

I kid

[limber lion]

?

[spice spire]

It’s also unemployed hours in NA

[limber lion]

You literally said you can't get into keys

And now you're saying it's your key

[deep wave]

and i said its my own key

can you make

[limber lion]

Which one is it broski

[cerulean walrus]

Also who the fuck is running 8s?

[deep wave]

this connection perhaps

[cerulean walrus]

[deep wave]

🖐️

[plush steppe]

you know how some classes like a baseline of like (insert here) stats to help it function

[deep wave]

tf am i supposed to do not like ill bring 607 1400 rio to a +10 lmao

[rocky sluice]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[plush steppe]

doesnt assa not have a min requirement sore some stats

[cerulean walrus]

LOL

[grim jay]

no, as per command

[proven jasper]

bro you pick agi and call it a day around here

[spice spire]

The command literally says no

[proven jasper]

ilvl>

[limber lion]

I've never had issues getting into my own key

[cerulean walrus]

Just fucking slap shit on your body and run

You're fine

[past bobcat]

What are you guys simming for rn?

[snow kindle]

with these changed we now run vicious venoms all the time now corrrect?

[limber lion]

That's a new level of problem

[grim jay]

sounds ewww ngl

[cerulean walrus]

Its okay man some of us have trouble finding the keystone pillar thingy

[spice spire]

Mine is perma set heroic

Actually

[plush steppe]

bet

[deep wave]

idk man, i feel like if i explain this, i will be bound to explain all kinds of stuff

[spice spire]

Unlucky

[spice surge]

Idk, depends on if they added it to the 2p

[deep wave]

think outside the box for this one

[limber lion]

You better before you start throwing hands

[snow kindle]

you think its gonna be better on silken now over sub if its the case

[cerulean walrus]

Man what happened? We do be washed

[true shadow]

I legit think the changes werent live earlier. ST feels higher now. lol

[spice spire]

I’m just u last tier

[true shadow]

I did a m+, came back, and ST is higher

w/e

[limber lion]

Placebo

[cerulean walrus]

Its okay this is the Fere tier for sure Guild had to fucking unionize

Delayed mythic prog

[royal lantern]

mfs talk about their ST dmg beeing higher, i cant even tell you what the excat dmg number im doing actually is lol

[inner current]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
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Devlin's Group
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Whispyr's Plater

[cerulean walrus]

Push button harder more dam

[past panther]

lol wat how did it unionize

[cerulean walrus]

GM was uhhhh

An interesting individual

And sandbagging the fuck outta the raid

Man's the worst evoker I've ever seen

[past panther]

Ouch

[deep wave]

why u asking bezos

[past panther]

How you be bad at the ekitten class

[past panther]

I’m in a workers union x)

[ruby birch]

do we know any numbers yet or are sims updated

[cerulean walrus]

I prefer the term unionize

But it was a mutiny

[past panther]

Hell yeah

basically make a whole guild without him?

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah

[frozen glacier]

so boys are we #1 on dps charts now

[spice spire]

Didn’t come to the nightly video calls ig

[past bobcat]

What you guys simming for?

[thick sable]

I don't think sims are updated yet ^

[sharp orchid]

How much of a prio is it to keep energy upp for [Sanguine Blades]?

[past bobcat]

Nah without updated sims

On avg

[spice spire]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[proud salmon]

how good is spyglass in m+?

[grim jay]

good

[cerulean walrus]

Sim

[grim jay]

as good as your sim tells you

[proud salmon]

bleh

cba to sim

cause it's going to be ebtter

[grim jay]

unlucky

[cerulean walrus]

Then don't ask how good something is

[coral ibex]

guess ur gonna stay wondering

[zenith prairie]

How exactly do you want us to quantify

It makes numbers appear larger

[cerulean walrus]

Its a bajillion better than one of the other trinkets of all time

[proud salmon]

👍

[thorn crater]

anyone checked how ST feels with teh buffs live?

[frozen glacier]

bigger number = better

[grim jay]

feels exactly the same

bcs you dont feel numbers

[snow grail]

either i significantly improved overnight or its quite nice in keys

[cerulean walrus]

I feel numbers

They're tangible

To me

[nimble ether]

I do too

[cerulean walrus]

I will reach in and feel your numbers

[nimble ether]

I can feel the number all around me

[lavish sparrow]

he doesnt feel numbers cause they too small when he playin

[deep gyro]

Is that a promise

[storm forum]

please do a feel test on my numbers

[nimble ether]

When I close my eyes I see number

[grim jay]

do you like

print them out

with a 3d printer

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah

[nimble ether]

All I care about is big numbie

[grim jay]

duh unlucky

[proven jasper]

The numbers mason

[cerulean walrus]

I reach in and wiggle your numbers

[proven jasper]

what do they mean

[nimble ether]

How many numbers do you guys have

[proven jasper]

Like 6

[nimble ether]

Tiny number

Ngl

[proven jasper]

i keep it on the low

[nimble ether]

You like to keep your number small like a dot ?

I feel you

[spice spire]

2?

[gilded jewel]

this is from a sikran kill moments ago

[grim jay]

the latest number I'm quite ashamed of is 1.71m in a 10 mists

the MM was blasting so hard I could barely set up

[lavish sparrow]

!yum

[nimble ether]

!number

[grim jay]

looks like they added quite some chance

[gilded jewel]

yep whispyr's expectations seem to be right

[nimble ether]

How many numbers will i get from the sac

How much number?

[grim jay]

5

[nova aspen]

many

[nimble ether]

Super excited to try out the new number update on my favorite class today

I’m witewally an assy wogue

[cinder bone]

goodf morning so far

[spice surge]

Iirc the proc rate was 8% before and it seems to be 15% now, but its possible they fixed it proccing of any dots rather than just bleeds

[nimble ether]

Yeah I read whyspyr post on wowhead last night about how 8% was like incredibly low and only accounted for like 3% Dmg increase or something

Basically low number

[hard river]

unsure if shared already

[grim jay]

thats quite the number

[nimble ether]

Need ??

[spice surge]

Ok mb it was raised to 15% before, so 25%

Nice

[nimble ether]

Yay

[nocturne jasper]

have we found out what the blue post meant by "appropriate hero talents"?

[long hawk]

Is there any major synergy between flayed wing trink and sin?

[lavish sparrow]

probably the plague damage from deathstalkers mark

[grim jay]

no

trinkets usually dont interact with kits

and if they do its most of the time a bug

[nocturne jasper]

crazy how they cant just say the talents it will affect

[nova aspen]

think whispyr mentioned yesterday that fatebound talents were already working as intended, so it must be a deathstalker talent(s)

[long hawk]

rip

Thanks

[brisk path]

is the US after reset already? do we have the numbers Mason?

[thick sable]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[nova aspen]

[gilded jewel]

changes deef feeling good

[still snow]

Hi all, wich spec is the best for solo delves

[torn shadow]

Blood DK

[cloud yew]

brann bronzebeard poisoned knife spam from 30 yds

[spice spire]

Outlaw

Perma tricks brann

[severe sparrow]

They all work though idk

[still snow]

Perma tricks?

[cloud yew]

tricks of the trade

[spice spire]

Yeah you go trickster

[wispy epoch]

is there anything we can do besides cloak of shadow for this new affic?

[spice spire]

And tricks brann and it lasts an hour

[cloud yew]

and let brann DIE

[spice spire]

Crimson vial heal

[wispy epoch]

...

[spice spire]

Bandage etc

[severe sparrow]

What's the new aff

[spice spire]

Cloak only gaming Unfort

Places a healing absorb on you.
And if dispelled you get stam and some crit iirc

I’m kinda rawdogging this season ngl

[strange python]

Invite a priest

[haughty lantern]

@spice spire will our wowhead talent build guide be updooted for the changes today?

[severe sparrow]

I don't keep up to date with what these do tbh it's just been fairly obvious what I'm meant to do with them so far

[cold parcel]

will the game allow us to use 2 everforged stabbers(636 crafted) if we are not so lucky with daggers?

[severe sparrow]

But fuck if i know what they've been doing for me

Kek

[haughty lantern]

also i literally have 2 health pots on me at all times, dps be damned (because a dead dps does no dps)

[spice spire]

Probably idk man I’m not the wh writer

[severe sparrow]

2 whole health pots

[spice spire]

And Vhispyr is sleeping rn

[haughty lantern]

you're just one of the smarter people here and i

yeah exactly

[spice spire]

They stay strapped

[haughty lantern]

didn't want to bother whisp

[spice spire]

I’m an idiot

[feral mason]

hello

[severe sparrow]

Ping him do it

[feral mason]

i am below average but above median at the game

what is the question

[haughty lantern]

2 different health pots

the purple ones you get from looting the wax piles

r2 health potions

[plush fox]

Does anyone know if harmonized silk turns weapons into raid tier weps

Or is it only for gear slots

[severe sparrow]

Ask if the upcoming changes are a nerf

[spice spire]

Will wowhead be updated today

[haughty lantern]

also i haven't checked, how long is maint today?

[spice spire]

It’s done

[feral mason]

oh

[spice spire]

Login

[haughty lantern]

WAT

[spice spire]

NA servers been up for like

Almost two hours

[feral mason]

why would wowhead be updated though these changes dont do a thing in terms of builds or itemization

[lethal temple]

The numbers

where are they?

[spice spire]

Pins

Haven’t concreted it

[haughty lantern]

quake a stg if you're joking im gonna punch you in the mouth with my lips

[spice spire]

It’s okay homies

[spice spire]

I wish I were then

[severe sparrow]

Parses make me feel like a mediocre rogue but then I realize I'm comparing myself to real CE raiders and guilds with respectable kill timers

[spice spire]

[feral mason]

That hurts lowkey

[cold parcel]

@spice spire will the game allow us to use 2 everforged stabbers(636 crafted) if we are not so lucky with daggers?

[lethal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/number-harry-dumband-dummer-gif-19125767

[feral mason]

wouldnt recommend

[spice spire]

They aren’t unique equipped so I’d think so

[feral mason]

Fell over while leaning in one time

[spice spire]

Not 100% though

[feral mason]

big fumble

big ow

[plush fox]

Can you use a harmonized silk on a vault weapon to turn it into a raid read mythic weapon?

[shy pecan]

Nope

[haughty lantern]

nah

[feral mason]

what is harmonized silk

[plush fox]

Okay

[cold parcel]

is there any way to confirm somehow?

[feral mason]

catalyst?

[haughty lantern]

ye

[fickle zenith]

yes

[spice spire]

By being the Guinea pig

But I’m not at my computer for another UH

[feral mason]

these groomblers keep changing the names of features that are the exact same thibg

[spice spire]

9 hours

[feral mason]

aaaaa

[spice spire]

So until then

[hollow talon]

is any of the walking time loot good

from the disturbance quest

[spice spire]

@hard river

[keen rover]

Soooo... we got buffed today?

[hard river]

looks like all plague dmg in deathstalker tree

[spice spire]

Pin

[spice spire]

It’s likely matching our mastery and what solo said

[worn jetty]

Hello all. Double Radiant power or double Authority of depths ?

[spice spire]

What content do you do

[worn jetty]

Raids