assassination

[haughty lantern]

god damnit stop being funny

i'm in class

i don't want to lol right now

[balmy condor]

indiana jones type shit, they grabbed the maps and the server room started filling with water and they had to find a way out before the entire room fills with water

classic trap

[spice spire]

Focus on class then nerd

[runic hinge]

Pay attention

[haughty lantern]

I HATE CLASS

[severe sparrow]

they shoulda made a delve like that

wtf

[haughty lantern]

I LEARN BETTER TEACHING MYSELF

[spice spire]

Bro you can’t say that in the year of our lord 2024

[fallow canopy]

then teach yoself to pay attention bruh

[haughty lantern]

give us a big red button to activate a hard mode "bonus round" after we finish a delve

[spice spire]

Damn

[severe sparrow]

candle boss on ??

[haughty lantern]

that's like trying to teach a fish to breathe air. ADHD, ain't it a bitch

[severe sparrow]

cant wait

[balmy condor]

you mean they should've made delves good? Delve should've been puzzle/trap sequences, tomb raider/indiana jones stuff to begin with

now they're basically just m+ but you click 4 urns on the ground

[haughty lantern]

palace of lei shen type puzzle shit

[fallow canopy]

tough :/

[severe sparrow]

p much but theyre good for filling the vault on alts i cba pugging on

[haughty lantern]

it's a miracle i managed to find a way to (theoretically, if i keep at it) get through college. LITERALLY none of my dad's entire adhd riddled family (he's the 6th of 7 kids) made it through college except for the eldest (i am also the eldest)

[dull cloak]

players want loot not puzzles

[severe sparrow]

i want puzzles :<

[haughty lantern]

feed them to the gacha machines bruh

[balmy condor]

they aren't even good for filling vaults cause the best way to fill your delve vault is killing zekvir 8x in a row

this shit is supposed to be evergreen content they slapped on the front box of the expansion man

[severe sparrow]

ok you have a point

[dull cloak]

blizz will nerf that to kill fun and convenience. surprised they haven't yet

[haughty lantern]

aside from this week (due to being an emphasis on delves) i literally only do like 4 bountifuls a week (all in 1 day). that last vault slot can go fuck itself

[haughty lantern]

pvp players tearing their hair out

[severe sparrow]

i dont even do any on my main anymore

[balmy condor]

it's actually so strange that the "new endgame pillar" got crushed in 2 weeks and then completely ignored

like

what are we doing

[runic hinge]

zekvir ? 8x on every alt for free loot

[severe sparrow]

i gave like 3 attempts to ?? and then said id go back for it and then didnt lol

[runic hinge]

there was a new bg and solo rbg's pvp is saved wdym

[dull cloak]

yea tbh 8x ?? zekvir for myth track vault. they should do it

[balmy condor]

feels like delves need a whole system rework in 11.1 and 11.2

[vestal wren]

i think there are like 3 delves that are good.
I think having mechanics you can exploit to speed up the dungeons is interessting.
E.g. i found it funny to test if i can beat the timer to reach the technical instance limit on a 8 delve
(you need to finish a delve every 5 minutes to do so, i can get folly down to 4 mintues)

[balmy condor]

and maybe they actually become an "endgame pillar" by midnight

[haughty lantern]

obviously i have no clue what i'm talking about, i don't pvp

[runic hinge]

I get 1800 for the appearence cause i love full sets

[balmy condor]

I lost count on zekvir but eventually couldn't enter anymore

zekvir ? takes me around 1:45

well

less now with gear

this week it was 1:15

so everything comes back up by the time I run back in

[haughty lantern]

new twitch category: Zekvir speedruns

we monster hunter now

[balmy condor]

was just perma in out in out in out in out

[haughty lantern]

as assassin?

[vestal wren]

haha ye esp. on ? became a meme

[balmy condor]

yeah

[eager tree]

outlaw only a bigger deal on tier ??

[severe sparrow]

they're kinda an awkward spot i think cuz in my main guild people blasted through all the delves solo even after the difficulty spike but

[balmy condor]

?? as assa is

VERY hard

[vestal wren]

?? is still about getting good rng

[balmy condor]

I haven't tried it yet really

I did like 1-2 attempts and it made me fully miserable so I just gave up

[vestal wren]

i did it on sub for like 3 tries but got annoyed by rng stuff

[severe sparrow]

my side guild who i usually have to uh, assist over the finish line to aotc last week, still finds them challenging and none of them go solo

[eager tree]

feel like killing spree is necessary for it

[vestal wren]

you can remove the slow with vanish

[balmy condor]

I did mage tower within 3 hours of it going live but zekvir ?? makes me actually angry

[haughty lantern]

i literally have not touched Zekvir

waiting to get the void-reaper combo on outlaw just to style on him. (Tbh making friends with literally ethereal royalty that is also an assassin is just super fuckin cool imo, outlaw or assassin)

[errant mauve]

Delves are stupid

[eager tree]

only outlaw has vanish up enough to cleanse every slow with it

[vestal wren]

in legion?

[balmy condor]

yeah

[vestal wren]

nice

[haughty lantern]

this is something i have been wondering, as end game "peak" content, how does Zekvir and it's various difficulties compare to mage tower

[spice surge]

Brann dispells every 3rd, but if you time it decently with intermissions and cast it can be every second

[ebon notch]

i cant remember that far back but im gonna go ahead and say i was right l bozo

[severe sparrow]

i miss legion mage tower

[scenic nacelle]

Zekvir?? Took about 7 tries as sin. Just dodge big one shot and stack the heal potions and you’re golden

[eager tree]

i mean watch ranged classes do it and feel angry. its a big advantage to never have him drop his fear circle on the egg

[balmy condor]

on assa, zekvir ? is a joke and ?? is incomparable to mage tower

[haughty lantern]

IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE, IT'S STILL THERE (just requires legion timewalking iirc)

[spice spire]

You objectively were not.
You just saw something was mitigated while you were feinting when it was devo aura mitigating.

[severe sparrow]

ok fair but also like i did it already i want that style content but updated for every expansion

[spice spire]

L bozo

[eager tree]

stream it or post it to youtube, would love to see sin rogue beat it. obviously not saying its impossible but am interested how you dealt with the spittles

[balmy condor]

?? is basically a game of can you tank melee hits and get good rng on mechanics

[vestal wren]

?? is rly about randomness

getting bad sequences fucks you

[willow cloud]

He melees too hard, if brann dies, and you don't get lucky with casts stopping his autos, you are f'd at ~622

[balmy condor]

yeah

[vestal wren]

zekvir oneshotting bran can also be a quick whipe

[scenic nacelle]

You can vanish the spittle as well, let bran dispel one. The potions on the floor give a stacking HoT. Use amorphous relic and arrowhead

[vestal wren]

and best of all

if you vanish or shadow dance

[severe sparrow]

he kills my brann too fast atm but i think he's only like 35 or someshit

[vestal wren]

bran gets aggro and he loves to reset the encounter

[balmy condor]

zekvir feels like you're doing the tank version of the fight

cause I'm 625 equipped and getting auto'd for 40-50% of my health

lmao

[unique heart]

how do i make a thread for my logs

[eager tree]

if brann is dead the vanish resets the boss. are you taking 2 charges of vanish? like i said its possible but using cloak/bran dispell/2 vanish charges would be tight margins. would like to watch it

[spice spire]

By posting

[haughty lantern]

i haven't taken a look at like the ilvl of mythic raiders but you are now my new highest benchmark of ilvl

previous highest was a 619 brewmaster monk that i was running a grim butthole with. (saw him on saturday)

[eager tree]

outlaw was just much easier to KS every dot

[balmy condor]

we do log threads based on quake's availability

[severe sparrow]

zekvir is the mage tower if the mage tower were generic and they tried to give all the classes the same challenge except now none of them can do it cuz it's a tanking/heal/dps challenege all in one

[spice spire]

Bro

[scenic nacelle]

My brann was level 37 and didn’t have an issue with him dying

[severe sparrow]

i wish my brann edition was as useful as yours

[eager tree]

this sounds ?

[unique heart]

i asked yesterday if someone could look and they said to make a thread using the !log but it didn’t work

[scenic nacelle]

Cloak spittle as well

[balmy condor]

still no skardyns

[balmy condor]

that only works in the other channels

[eager tree]

if youre vanishing spittles then brann will get aggro. he doesnt run out of fears and will take those hits

[balmy condor]

they have much more manpower

[spice spire]

They’re not users of this channel then

[scenic nacelle]

I have the achieve and mount 🙂

[spice spire]

Buddy I bet I lift more than the other channels wdym

[unique heart]

ok so i just do it in another channel

[haughty lantern]

Big L bro

I hard carried that. It was a mythic raider carrying his 2 shitter dps (both were sub 600) through a 4 butthole. I was 1st in dps as an outlaw and the tank was 2nd. I feel bad for the healer b/c I think it was a pug healer....

[eager tree]

like i said, would like to see the video of it. im sure there are people that can do it as sin but would also be interested to see how your brann never dies

[spice spire]

No just post here

[severe sparrow]

yeah but how much horsepower do the others have

[spice spire]

I’ll review

[unique heart]

ok

[scenic nacelle]

There is a sin rogue video on YouTube I used as reference. If you have Mad Queens Mandate it helps nuke the webbing mob too

[spice spire]

I’ll make whispyr thread it

[balmy condor]

it's chill, we're stuck in ovi'nax prison and I'm double passive trinkets

[vestal wren]

the length of the fight is also a bit too long

[eager tree]

yeah that does help, but killing the egg wasnt my problem on sin it was the dot

[severe sparrow]

i feel like i have a hard time in low buttholes cuz the tank just pulls like 2 mobs

and then the next 2

[haughty lantern]

the worst part is I kept farming butthole for rings (I need a champ track crit/mast ring for my sin spec and a champ track crit/vers ring for my outlaw spec) and i got ANOTHER skardyns

[runic hinge]

quake why did i have a 27 parse last night

[vestal wren]

ofc thats gear dependent but even 8 delves feel like hitting HP sponges

[runic hinge]

(i died)

[unique heart]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/bleeding-hollow/mancimoney?zone=38

[haughty lantern]

what 2 you running?

[scenic nacelle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L7FkgzDrfng&pp=ygUQU2luIHJvZ3VlIHpla3Zpcg%3D%3D

This is the video I watched for reference

[spice spire]

Anyone that can thread pls thread

[eager tree]

sweet is this you?

[winged widget]

crystal and void contract

[eager tree]

oih gotcha

[scenic nacelle]

Naw

[winged widget]

refused to use the transmitter that dropped from raid

[balmy condor]

uh I have the dawnbreaker crystal and a hero track ritual knife

[winged widget]

will never be as goated as branch my love

[haughty lantern]

how stonks is ritual knife? can you explain why is good?

[vestal wren]

if you use it, i recommend using a weakaura

[balmy condor]

it's a bunch of passive agi

and uh

[haughty lantern]

currently have champ track broodsac and skardyns but they both still 606 since I got them after i spent all my crests for the week

[balmy condor]

that's it

[slate crown]

Epic Log Review

[balmy condor]

it's like a reverse trinket

[haughty lantern]

how much does the "minus 3200 secondary stat" proc happen?

[balmy condor]

not a ton

[haughty lantern]

ye it's a giant stat stick with you gambling on the loss of stats

[vestal wren]

if you want to have the worse time, try to use transmitter on a 30 man ovinax heroic

[balmy condor]

idk about gambling

[haughty lantern]

so like....if you get the debuff, do you hold off sending your deathmark combo or do you still just send it?

[scenic nacelle]

It says low but like Fuu said you can get a WA to track the debuff and cloak it off

[ebon notch]

proof??

[balmy condor]

you don't track it at all

[haughty lantern]

oh nvm this is huge stonks then.

[runic hinge]

I'm running double passive rn to avoid this exact scenario

[vestal wren]

you can see what stat you have with a weakaura and cloak only the bad ones off

[winged widget]

my 2 braincells are on 110% workload already trying to dodge shit. no need to add something else and inevitably forget about it and lose the buff or mistime it

[balmy condor]

please don't cloak your ritual knife

[vestal wren]

haha unlcky tho, sub has no bad stats

[ebon notch]

XDDDD

[haughty lantern]

this is why i am here. trying to learn and understand

[haughty lantern]

doesn't assassin also have no bad stats?

meanwhile, outlaw over there hating mastery and only needing so much haste.

[balmy condor]

on my sikran kill this week the debuff was 10% uptime

[vestal wren]

oh i did mean assassiantion

sub keeps haste

[balmy condor]

it's not bad

[vestal wren]

or crit

[haughty lantern]

(that said i am really eager to try the KIR build later in the xpac once that haste threshold is more easily achieved)

[tall atlas]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[balmy condor]

it's just a lot of agi and it's good and you let it do its thing and gg

[haughty lantern]

ahhh so you're saying keep cloak for actually deadly mechanics

[balmy condor]

yes

[vestal wren]

i think armin does it too, so at least two sub rogues actively do it

[balmy condor]

armin is a degenerate you should see our dms

he knows what he's done

@silk bane

[haughty lantern]

[vestal wren]

haha

we should ask koji or levy to add a option to cloak off buffs to the trinket

[winged widget]

getting reduced stats is deadly for my parse, though.

[vestal wren]

[balmy condor]

[haughty lantern]

which one of you is the escaped cutthroat rare that escaped from violet hold

[balmy condor]

"what is dps gain for cloaking debuff"

"is ritual knife bis if you cloak debuff"

[ebon notch]

@spice spire dont you dare look up proof

[vestal wren]

i have another one for you

[balmy condor]

"do I cloak ritual knife if it procs outside of cooldowns"

[subtle tundra]

!stupidquestion

[haughty lantern]

can i make a whispyr copy for chat gpt that just answer dumb sin questions? /s

[vestal wren]

is it a dps gain to use sprint or shadowstep for scroll of momentum?

[balmy condor]

oh god not that dumb trinket

[haughty lantern]

momentum is stonks for outlaw

keep it away from sin tho

[vestal wren]

its not bad on sub

at least in the sim

[haughty lantern]

outlaw has so much passive movespeed increase that the scroll unironically competes with most m+ trinkets

[balmy condor]

the amount of people I've had to correct because "sims sprint to make it good" and I have to go "no they don't"

[haughty lantern]

like void reaper contract + scroll is unironically simming best for me

and my target dummy damage replicates that sim so

[eager tree]

how did he kill this egg before it hatched? mandate?

[haughty lantern]

frying pan

[balmy condor]

vibes

[haughty lantern]

sunny side upped that bitch

[balmy condor]

positive energy

good attitude

[vestal wren]

shadowstep also gives a short ms boost, always happy to give people more option to burn defensive/utility for minor benefits

[balmy condor]

default nameplates is crazy though

[haughty lantern]

killed with kindness (and this gun i found)

[runic hinge]

I stopped watching when i saw him build to 7 for rupture twice

[cursive flicker]

Imagine not using Whispyr brand plater

[haughty lantern]

me on outlaw when i can restless blades my way through a 60 second cooldown in 10 seconds (with the power of gambling)

[vestal wren]

you don't need to kill it, can kick the add too worse case

[haughty lantern]

tbf i don't use ANY plater.

(no offense whispyr, i'm sure your plater is great)

[eager tree]

he did kill it tho, im asking how. it had 20% health left with .5s left on cast then it just died like executed

[haughty lantern]

was he sin?

[eager tree]

yes

[haughty lantern]

probably sudden death

sounds like sudden death at least

[slate crown]

Demise 🤓

[haughty lantern]

nah, let the egg hatch and multidot, for the parse

[eager tree]

https://youtu.be/L7FkgzDrfng?t=423

[coral ibex]

parsing zekvir

[willow cloud]

I think it's crazy how many more procs outlaw gets from contract than other specs

[eager tree]

dont think it was SD as he did a big hit and it had a sliver left

[balmy condor]

fuu do we shadowstep the start of the scroll or the end? 🙂 Is there a timeline weakaura for the scroll like we have for kingsbane 🙂 would be very helpful. 🙂 Currently running ritual knife + scroll of momentum, am cloaking ritual knife debuff and sprint/step for scroll 🙂 wondering if I can optimize since it is a lot to track 🙂 thank you in advances for any helping

[haughty lantern]

ethereal princess best friends with the pirate. Buddy Cop movie live fliming.

god this thought just popped into my head

[lethal arrow]

sheer willpower

[haughty lantern]

Ethereal assassin GF that literally hides in your shadow because she is too afraid to be seen in public but wants to spend time with you

assassinates anyone that looks at you funny (after you apply queensbane to the target)

[lethal arrow]

dm me if this is you

[haughty lantern]

plz help me I am so lonely

[vestal wren]

does distance traveled with shadowstep momentarely count towards your movement speed?

(it does not, but i think the question is fun)

[haughty lantern]

how to calculate instantaeneous velocity of your character

if i move 40 feet in less than 0.25 seconds do I break the sound barrier?

buddy you broke the physics engine.

[golden prairie]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[haughty lantern]

speed of light? nah, speed of shadow(step)

[vestal wren]

i don't think i make my position better

haha

[haughty lantern]

TO BE FAIR if you apply real life physics to wow, you wouldn't even need scroll of momentum, you would slam into your target hard enough to kill you and chunk whatever boss you are fighting (like Link's hookshot)

40 feet in like 2 frames?

[vestal wren]

fun fact, characters in wow move extremely fast compared to real life

[balmy condor]

god I wish. "can I setup a macro or something to time my shadowstep on tick of scroll"

[haughty lantern]

frame perfect shadowstep

[vestal wren]

remember

[winged widget]

a question. if using deathstalker and elusiveness, what dr stacks with what? Additively? multiplicatively? etc.
Not sure if trying to stack evasion+feint DR is worth it or I should try to spread them instead.

[vestal wren]

we could dodge flying spells (projectiles) for a while with well timed shadowstep

[haughty lantern]

[balmy condor]

a raid full of rogues and you all just do 20 second pulls with evasion trying to get the frame perfect step so the scroll instantly one shots the boss with infinite damage

[balmy condor]

DR's are all multipliers

[vestal wren]

sounds wod like

[haughty lantern]

reminds me of when i found this rare in azj-kahet, the maddened siegebomber. It does this move where it flies up and like body slams a bomb back down onto you

if you shadowstep as it lands you can keep dpsing but dodge the damage

literal "omae wa mou shinderiu" moment

[balmy condor]

so if you have 20% from elusiveness evasion, 20% from bait and switch, and 20% from feint for example

[covert jewel]

wait do we still wax mh?

[haughty lantern]

a "sneak peek" if you will

[balmy condor]

you take 100 damage, it gets reduced to 80, then it gets reduced to 66 then 55

[balmy condor]

you can

[vestal wren]

you can shadowstep the jump in the legion halls dungeon to prevent bleed application

[winged widget]

appreciate it

[vestal wren]

there are actually some good applications of step

[haughty lantern]

step is so god damn useful

and it helps that it's a fuckin meme

"nothin personal kid"

[vestal wren]

on your higher item level, as it seems the proc scales with weapon item level

#tc-research message

[spice spire]

Anyway

It happens and life moves on

[runic hinge]

get rekt da psp man

[haughty lantern]

i like how I made a joke in my raid discussion channel about ignoring adds to keep dpsing boss (instead of hard swapping to adds) and now I get dog piled like I ignore all mechanics and only care about my parse 🫠

[spice spire]

They’re real for that

[haughty lantern]

why

[limber lion]

based raid group

[covert jewel]

guess at 3ilvl diff it doesnt matter

[haughty lantern]

(guys seriously did i fuck up? am i supposed to hard swap to adds??? I thought we dps boss and spatter the adds?)

[limber lion]

Which boss?

[haughty lantern]

primarily broodtwister and silken court

and i guess Rasha'nan too

[limber lion]

Rashan you cannot spatter

Broodtwister you should switch

Silken Court just blast boss I guess

[covert jewel]

switch what

[ebon notch]

slut

[limber lion]

I'm sure you can figure it out

[covert jewel]

ct and funnel boss, what switch

[limber lion]

Exactly

Gotta also interrupt the worm

[haughty lantern]

ok but also even on heroic (my guild is just a casual heroic guild) the adds die SO FAST

but for BB horror i do hard swap. For Ovinax, what should I do? I hard swap to worms that are way out of the way of the boss but do I really like hard swap to the tank spiders or whatever?

[limber lion]

If boss is in Africa and the worm is in the other side of the raid

you hit the worm

[limber lion]

No, you just CT everything on blast boss

[urban moat]

Can you feint the icy blades from city of thread's 2nd boss ?

[limber lion]

And yeah on Rash you don't have to switch because they die

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't play CT on heroic ovi'nax for what it's worth

heroic has half as many adds and they die hella quick

[haughty lantern]

Normally I just run pure ST with spatter on ovinaxx (again we are just on heroic so it's not a huge deal) but is it werf going CT? The ads STILL die pretty fast as it is and I top the dps meters too

[midnight atlas]

just play normal spec with spatter and cleave from boss, spread ruptures on some adds

some rupture snipe here and there

[balmy condor]

yeh

[limber lion]

I did a kill and CT was my top damage

[urban moat]

And gzrrote?

[balmy condor]

that sounds really wrong

[limber lion]

I mean it's a pug group

[fleet pagoda]

was that an all assassination group

[limber lion]

The adds don't really die instantly

They might die in a full guild group

with big boys

but certainly didn't on a pug group

[balmy condor]

I mean even on mythic CT isn't my highest damage

caustic is way higher

[midnight atlas]

i dont bother with garrote on adds unless i just refreshed it on boss and i comes off cd right when i target swap to some spider

[limber lion]

too many blasters

idk

[balmy condor]

or bad grouping in your pug maybe?

idk eitherr

[haughty lantern]

like if a worm is out in bumfuk nowhere i WILL hard swap to that worm and try to interrupt if I can

but also we literally got our first heroic ovinax kill LAST WEEK (I was absent the previous week and they couldn't kill it then)

[limber lion]

Grouping?

Good one

[spring moat]

Is there a cheat sheet ? Or common sense ? Imma experiment on reset and see myself. Between caustic and not per boss basis

[limber lion]

A cheat sheet for what?

[spring moat]

We have two dks and a warrior. I can’t compete for aoe lmao

[limber lion]

Just look at what people are doing on Warcraftlogs

[fleet pagoda]

think he's trying to identify where caustic is bait

[limber lion]

And copy their builds

Generally just running the single target build with Spatter will serve you right on every boss

[haughty lantern]

except siikran

or princess

[limber lion]

I personally do not care enough to swap even on Sikran

[haughty lantern]

fair enough

[limber lion]

Boss dies even without me specing into 1% more damage

[glass obsidian]

hi guys. im trying to understand what my priority should be in a pack regarding our dots. I open normally doting everything and pressing the big cds. should i care about refreshing the dots or should i keep playing around caustic and envenoms. i am asking cause some vods of people dont bother much to refresh them

[limber lion]

Really situational

If you need the energy and the mobs live long enough, it is a good idea to reapply some dots, mainly Ruptures

But if the pack is going to die soon regardless, there's really no point throwing out Ruptures and wasting the CP

Sudden Demise does help with it a bit

[rough oyster]

/wa

[limber lion]

Can't really say what to do and when, it's kinda up to you to decide and figure out if the mobs survive long enough

!wa

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[vapid skiff]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[glass obsidian]

thanks for the answer 🙏

[gentle rover]

If things are dying I don’t bother re up with dots instead I just play the death stalker mini game where I try to execute the lowest health ones with the keystone

[quartz locust]

i mean i havent been running anything past 8, and there hasnt been a pack that survives before rupture expires in my experience

unless you got some dollar general dps

[limber lion]

There might be some individual mobs that need redotting, but usually it's like 1 or 2 mobs and that's it

And not worth trying to get to 5 Scent stacks

Like the big boys in Grim Batol

Before the 3rd boss

[worn tinsel]

Learning sin, do I want to be playing around these combo points?

[fallen moss]

is there any guide or system out there for kick / cc assignments. one that I guess most of the high key push groups are using?

[quartz locust]

no they're strictly decorative

[fleet pagoda]

nah. if you hit them playing normally then good, but don't do stuff like Poisoned Knife to try and land on one

[quartz locust]

but seriously, what he said, also theyre reworking it for the 20th anni patch

and it's going away essentially

[limber lion]

Not really, just whoever kicks the fastest wins

High tier push groups might have assignments

[short comet]

lol

[limber lion]

but that's not something that any pugs or whatever do or use

[balmy condor]

typically if it's assigned it's an auto-marker and at the start of the key it's just "rogue get green, warrior get blue, mage get red"

[severe sparrow]

unless youre in voice idk gl with assignments

unless ^

[cyan mist]

whats the recommended embelishment for assa atm the guide sugest 2 times crit but i see a lot of people with the mainweapon craft

[limber lion]

Yeah voice good

[balmy condor]

and if you don't have something assigned you just kinda know to fallback to second kick on an add

[limber lion]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[fleet pagoda]

that being said when do we get the Poisoned Knife role icons for the ranged generator enthusiasts

[limber lion]

negative

[ashen rover]

rarely assigned in pugs until its high keys where everything one shots u

[balmy condor]

@glad osprey would love that, wouldn't you <3

[severe sparrow]

there's that thingy idk if it's in whispyrs plater or i stole it from somewhere else that colors the mobs based on like if it's a prio interrupt man or not

[glad osprey]

LOL

[limber lion]

Yeah many profiles use mythic+ colors for interrupts

[glad osprey]

you’d be proud i haven’t used poisoned knife in 24 hours

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

Delete this nephew

[glad osprey]

record

[worn tinsel]

Ok thanks, so if it's lit up and I'm at the point to Envenom or whatever, use it, if I don't hit the extra dmg from it , don't stress it basically?

[balmy condor]

HES SOBER

[severe sparrow]

ye i had to change it to color the names and not the bars though

[ashen rover]

big

[glad osprey]

I’m a she btw

LMAO

[balmy condor]

SHE SOBER

[ashen rover]

1 day clean

[balmy condor]

ITS OKAY, THE AA TOKENS DONT DISCRIMINATE BASED ON GENDER

[glad osprey]

Shaking already

[fleet pagoda]

yah just about, any finisher besides slice n' dice

[balmy condor]

I will though

[spice spire]

At one year, you get a coin next to your name like Vhispyr here

[ashen rover]

[balmy condor]

I'm a monster

[spice spire]

No, you drink monster

[balmy condor]

yeah

you are what you eat

[severe sparrow]

did we not want to use er points on rupture back in sl? or am i misremembering

[spice spire]

HUH

[balmy condor]

that's why I'm 800mg of caffeine

[spice spire]

Using er in SL

[subtle tundra]

thats so hot

[spice spire]

[dapper cradle]

i take 800mg of piss intravenously

[balmy condor]

didn't matter

[spice spire]

(We didn’t use that dogshit ability except first bit of xpac)

[glad osprey]

I have improved but I’m still parsing sad but I think it’s because I’m just not really used to melee and my uptime kinda sucks too now

so many issues

[balmy condor]

like technically even now, rupture is the better ER cast but it never lines up

so it's whatever

if it happens to line up like that then fine

[severe sparrow]

i think im remembering wrong anyway cuz i think i was sub for a good part of sl

[subtle tundra]

drunk raids automatically improve your dps

[severe sparrow]

idk

[spice spire]

We improve over time.
As long as you aim to keep getting better, you will

[glad osprey]

Yeah it’s usually how it is

[severe sparrow]

i was like 90% of the way to being an alcoholic during the lockdown so the memory dont member so good

[glad osprey]

I don’t expect to be god tier in like 3 days of playing the spec

[fallow canopy]

what a wise dog

[balmy condor]

god you guys are so positive in here what the fuck man

[fleet pagoda]

there's a million little things to optimize, you'll get it with some practice

[balmy condor]

you killing the doomer vibe

[spice spire]

No thoughts, head empty

Only wisdom

That’s how George functions

[balmy condor]

where's the people showing up to call the buff tomorrow a nerf

[glad osprey]

There is yeah

[balmy condor]

need that negativity in my life to fuel me

[ashen rover]

ok sorry. SIN NERF ON RESET

[balmy condor]

some people need positive reinforcement, I need pure negative reinforcement

[severe sparrow]

tea change going to ruin the class

[fallow canopy]

rah WE ARE GETTING NERFED, WHERE BIS LIST WHERE STAT PRIORITY?

am I doing my part?

[balmy condor]

MUCH BETTER

[spice spire]

Check the foreverguy Twitter account babe

[balmy condor]

I FEEL ANGRY ALREADY

[glad osprey]

What’s the tea change? I keep hearing people talk about Thai

[balmy condor]

THANK YOU

[glad osprey]

This

Thai LOL

[severe sparrow]

fuck i could go for thai rn

[limber lion]

Automatic tea at 30 energy

[fallow canopy]

tea is becoming a passive

[spice spire]

It auto procs below 30 energy in November

Too slow for my Finnish goat

Damn

[limber lion]

🕺

[fleet pagoda]

didn't it get changed to a smaller threshold?

[worn tinsel]

I lurk a lot just soaking up info, without trying to being an ass but it's definitely better than some other class discs out there from what I've seen.

[limber lion]

You had more context, it's fine

[severe sparrow]

well it's still an active if you wanna active it

[fleet pagoda]

thought it was 15

[glad osprey]

Huh idk how I feel about that but I guess as a newbie I do appreciate one less thing to optimize

[limber lion]

We complete each other

[severe sparrow]

idnt it?

[limber lion]

Yes

[spice spire]

Babe?

[limber lion]

It's still an active

[glad osprey]

That’s gonna be kinda weird since wouldn’t it waste charges

[limber lion]

With a passive part

[severe sparrow]

i cant handle some classes discord tbh

the monk one is straight up confusing

[glad osprey]

they should go for passive or active it’s weird to have it in between

[limber lion]

No

Having it be both is the perfect solution

If you want to optimize, you press it

[severe sparrow]

how do you have 50 channels for a single spec

[limber lion]

If you don't care, you let it happen automatically

Very good

[severe sparrow]

why is discussion and questions separate i dont know what goes where

[fallow canopy]

the only channel I religiously read is #1146207476983812117

[glad osprey]

This isn’t a lot I think

[balmy condor]

given some of the other class discords and the things I hear being friends with their mod staff... I know

[severe sparrow]

why do you need more than 1 though idk

well ok

[glad osprey]

questions could flood people talking about other things like discussing buff / nerf and like

[hushed anvil]

where can i find a guide

[glad osprey]

just talking about the spec in general

[spice spire]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

I actually like the monk setup way more than ours

[severe sparrow]

damn

[balmy condor]

but I got voted down on changing it

[spice spire]

Assassination yapping when

I’ll rule the channel

[fleet pagoda]

always

[severe sparrow]

im always terrified the people there are gonna be like YOURE IN THE WRONG CHANNEL WITH THIS

[hollow stone]

so with the caustic nerf is it even worth running anymore? or maybe after this huge nerf we just all go play d4 instead i guess

[balmy condor]

YES

[severe sparrow]

so i like delete and post stuff int he other channel then

[balmy condor]

THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED

[limber lion]

There you go Whispyr

[spice spire]

Think 99% of people don’t give a fuck

[balmy condor]

raw doomium

[limber lion]

It's been summoned

[balmy condor]

the most powerful element

[limber lion]

The doomage

[fallow canopy]

you summoned the doomsday

[spice spire]

Bureaucracy is weird to do when someone is being legitimate

[glad osprey]

honestly I don’t think we’ll see until some testing is actually done

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

Damn he fell for it

Unlucky

She?

[balmy condor]

she

[fleet pagoda]

"worth running anymore" was finely crafted sir

[balmy condor]

excuse you

[limber lion]

She

[spice spire]

She

[limber lion]

Pardon me

[glad osprey]

LOL

[balmy condor]

misgendering in my inclusive discord cev?

[spice spire]

You’re pardoned

[limber lion]

Fuck

[spice spire]

No that’s the swamp bud

[limber lion]

Take me out

[glad osprey]

you come to the point where 9/10 times I don’t correct people anymore

[limber lion]

I'm ready

[spice spire]

By Franz Ferdinand?

[glad osprey]

I still do occasionally but then it kills my brain cells

[balmy condor]

the world war 2 guy?

[ashen rover]

i just embrace the he idc

[spice spire]

World War I

[balmy condor]

or was that 1

[spice spire]

But pop off bestie

[balmy condor]

there's just been so many

[feral mason]

is it still worth running daggers on assa after this nerf? Should we not just cosplay outlaw with a mace mh so we can get actually good damage cleave with blade flurry? (50%)

[balmy condor]

I can't count that high

[glad osprey]

Yeahh LOL

[eager tree]

the ww2 guy was named something like hitler i think

[spice spire]

Was also a one hit wonder band in the 2000s

[balmy condor]

yeah I've heard of that guy I think

[severe sparrow]

idk about you but if i hit someone in the head with a mace im p sure theyre gonna be assassinated

[feral mason]

real

[spice spire]

Maybe for u but I’m different

[glad osprey]

wow players are something else though, had a new guy join the little guild im in and the first thing he says in vc during raid is “DO I HEAR A WOMAN”

[severe sparrow]

have you tried going to the gym so you can lift a real mace?

[feral mason]

Sword makes bigger wounds so would do more bleed damage? Blizzard hello?

[balmy condor]

gonna make you a 300 pound mace like thors hammer

[ashen rover]

[balmy condor]

sorry that was me

[ashen rover]

its just gamers in general,

[spice spire]

Honestly, never have. Never lifted a day in my life

Damn

[severe sparrow]

that's alright you can probably bench more than me anyway unless youre also a woman

[feral mason]

i just scream “do i hear a cute man” every time i hear a feminine male voice in vc

[balmy condor]

you're so real for that

where's the screenshot from my youtube chat

quake do you have it

[spice spire]

I can only do 175kg :/

[spring moat]

I guess I don’t have that problem since my wife plays guardian in the same room

[spice spire]

Hold pls

[feral mason]

Bench 175?!???

[limber lion]

wtf

[spice spire]

Yeah

[glad osprey]

I love this

[feral mason]

wtf

i need u

[spice spire]

Have we not gone over this

[spice spire]

Dog?

[spring moat]

She gets big mad and mythic plus it starts calling people fuckers

[fleet pagoda]

benching is the only way i know what that is in freedom units big number tho

[feral mason]

sorry

[balmy condor]

do you go "DO I HEAR A WOMAN?" when she queues her mic?

[feral mason]

im ok now

[limber lion]

man's benching 400 pounds

[feral mason]

composed

[glad osprey]

LOL

there’s always one though, that’s the thing

Always

no matter what I do

[balmy condor]

okay but

what if you were just a man

instead

[feral mason]

Unironically though

[glad osprey]

I need to get a voice changer

and then switch to man voice and be like

[balmy condor]

it's 2024

[glad osprey]

“I’m a man”

[feral mason]

Being bi i treat everyone equally (horny)

[balmy condor]

just introduce yourself as a twink

[feral mason]

I solved sexism

[glad osprey]

and see how they react

[fleet pagoda]

tell people you're a little boy, surely that won't take a darker turn

[balmy condor]

wait

[ashen rover]

[balmy condor]

method josh pov

[feral mason]

real

[spice spire]

385 dude

[glad osprey]

Jesus LMAO

[spice spire]

Chill

[ashen rover]

average minecraft youtuber from your childhood pov

[red schooner]

/wa

[feral mason]

be nice be respectful be nice

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[limber lion]

goated

[red schooner]

Thanks, I'm half asleep

[spice spire]

No worries king

[feral mason]

my deadlift was like 170kg

and my arms muscle wise are twigs so

[fleet pagoda]

which is perfectly adequate

[spice spire]

Nah and I’m def less than that rn. Ended up ripping a lat somehow.
So like.
I’m only doing 90s for rows/chest work and lower for arms and stuff. It’s depressing stuff

[feral mason]

i was born with thick ass legs

[spice spire]

170kg deadlift is nuts dude

Proud of you

[feral mason]

the only thing im kinda crazy at is sandbag carries

could lift the 100kg one off the ground and waddle like 50m with it

[glad osprey]

thicc

[stiff talon]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[worn tinsel]

Another question, apologies if I overlooked it, in st or cleve, still don't use FoK for the Deaths talker hero talent or is it used only in that window? Or just strictly AoE regardless.

[glad osprey]

thighs

[spice spire]

Need that

Sorry

I don’t even like men

[feral mason]

yes until you buy jeans

[spice spire]

Oh dude same shit

Dw

[feral mason]

like even if i lost the 15kg i need to lose

[feral mason]

this would still be an issue

[glad osprey]

legit

[spice spire]

Thighs have been an issue in buying pants for like

[fleet pagoda]

christ tearing a major muscle 🫡 hope you recover speedily

[spice spire]

20 years for me

[spice spire]

We’re a month out

Pissed that it happened

But rehabbing it well

[spice spire]

Yeah I’m extremely based for that too

[fleet pagoda]

yeah i feel you, rough on the mental

[limber lion]

I wanna go to the gym but I should be going to bed

[spice spire]

Was week one

[limber lion]

and I'm also feelint a bit sick

[spice spire]

Gym in the am

[limber lion]

gg

[spice spire]

It’ll be there

Sleep important big dog

[limber lion]

I can't do gym in the morning

[spice spire]

Wtf

[balmy condor]

@glad osprey first time chatter in my stream btw

[limber lion]

I only go during the night because there's barely any people there

[spice spire]

OH

[limber lion]

Definitely not a morning person

[feral mason]

honestly pretty based

[spice spire]

I was looking for ass master

[glad osprey]

wtf LMAO

[balmy condor]

thats a good one too

did you find that one

[feral mason]

HIYA is very zesty

i fw it though

[ashen rover]

[glad osprey]

some people my god

[balmy condor]

FELLAS is it gay to talk in your natural voice

[fading linden]

do you guys know about some good video on assa guide?

[ashen rover]

depends if your natural voice sounds gay

[spice spire]

No that’s the one I missed

[balmy condor]

my youtube only has bad ones that are way too long

[balmy condor]

okay I go find

[spice spire]

Extremely. That’s why I always use my natural voice; to fight the stereotypes

[runic hinge]

https://youtu.be/N_if0HnJ1gE?si=iGpaSVdRVnS_pSQ6

Start there

[spring moat]

No, when she queue up her Mike, I always say you woke up the bear which is always funny to me because she plays a guardian druid and it never gets old at least to me

[spice spire]

[fading linden]

looking good:D like the graphic design

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1227731609642471534/image.png?ex=6704fae9&is=6703a969&hm=064fb2fecdb334ab4e2871cf1720fed2bd7e22f2fa817d5619ed0fe725483fb9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1539&height=186

[feral mason]

???

[spice spire]

That line goes so hard

[ashen rover]

TTHIS is the best one

[balmy condor]

poetry

[spice spire]

Holy

[glad osprey]

LOL

[feral mason]

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-fire-writing-heat-gif-25524005

[spice spire]

REAL

[limber lion]

pre transition self mutilator

they've got a way with words

[glad osprey]

wtf

[spring moat]

Was that because of your hair color or is he jealous?

[balmy condor]

modern day shakespeare

[spice spire]

“Ass master but not rogue”

Is like a top ten bar

[balmy condor]

no it's cause he saw my pfp on wowhead

[ashen rover]

[runic hinge]

For sure it’s bars

[balmy condor]

and got upset that Im not a girl

[fleet pagoda]

i respect that he was upfront about his intentions

wild

[spice spire]

So did I bud :/

[echo heath]

lol

[balmy condor]

sees this and goes "OH SHIT SHE MUST BE HOT IRL"

[limber lion]

First Tisu with the fembait, now Whispyr

:/

[balmy condor]

MUST GO GOON ON YOUTUBE

[glad osprey]

wtf lmao

[past panther]

Can we turn this into like a 2 part haiku

[feral mason]

it isnt gooning if its from stealth

[spice spire]

Wdym fembait

[feral mason]

Must goon out of stealth

[spice spire]

Tisu hot as fuck

[feral mason]

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

let me count syllables

[past panther]

hahahah yessss

[feral mason]

Uncookable

[balmy condor]

wowhead guide sexy girl
find pre self mutilator
ass master not rogue

[glad osprey]

Wow

[past panther]

art

[gritty laurel]

pre transitional
ass master but not of rogues
whispyr girl picture

[spring moat]

I mean, I noticed the same thing I saw you were live one time that’s not a girl. OK whatever still plays real good

[balmy condor]

yeah sorry

not a girl, just act like one around my gf

[spring moat]

I really don’t care lol

[balmy condor]

in my defense she's latina

I hold no power

[glad osprey]

honestly if I see an anime girl 99/100 times it’s a guy irl

it’s just an internet rule

[spice spire]

Fucking weebs

[feral mason]

[balmy condor]

I just wanna be cute man

[runic hinge]

Same tbh

[glad osprey]

same

[balmy condor]

gonna clean shave and go on grindr to fish for compliments from bears

[runic hinge]

That’s why I play a nelf female and engi toy to vulpera

[glad osprey]

LMAO

[feral mason]

literally me

[rain wraith]

wtf

[cloud yew]

you are a cute patootie ❤️

[glad osprey]

I unironically play a vulpera , I find them cute asf and idc what anyone says about me

[balmy condor]

I played vulpera for 2 tiers

good race

one of the good ones

can't say that

nvm

[glad osprey]

I get bullied for it

[feral mason]

[glad osprey]

but at least I’m not a mechagnome

[feral mason]

whispyr is one of the good ones for sure

[spice spire]

The grungler has reentered chat

[glad osprey]

or an earthen (they’re ugly asf change my mind)

[balmy condor]

yeah but they're hard as rock

[glad osprey]

the freaking textures wtf

just zoom in one them it looks so weird and low res

[spice spire]

Just like me during whispyr streams fr

[balmy condor]

bro what

[feral mason]

[spice spire]

?

[glad osprey]

WOAH

[past panther]

just set your location to wherever there’s a political rally in America

those tend to crash grindr

[balmy condor]

only the republican ones

[feral mason]

grindr is such a shit app

never again

[balmy condor]

grindr crashes during the RNC but not the DNC

curious

[glad osprey]

I’m canadian

[past panther]

Closets be full

[glad osprey]

:D

[spice spire]

Grindr actually pissed me off conceptually

[balmy condor]

not a fan of the lifestyle eh?

[feral mason]

bro people on there have no shame

its so odd

[gritty laurel]

yeah but the other attendees had anime girl profile pictures, how were they supposed to know it was a dude?

[spice spire]

Like it’s an open joke of “Grindr? I hardly know her!”

[glad osprey]

all dating apps tho

[spice spire]

But mfs don’t know any women on there

[glad osprey]

not just Grindr

[feral mason]

nahh

[spice spire]

Pissed

[feral mason]

not like this

ive had multiple instances where people sent their measurements as their very first message

they were like average

why even

idk

[past panther]

Isnt grindr explicitly a hook up app

Seems like a good place to have no shame

[spring moat]

We bully a person in our guild for playing a mechagnome

[spice spire]

Aren’t all apps a hook up app?

[glad osprey]

I tried a few b4 because you get lonely and sad and the amount of weird pick up lines you get is just sm else

[fleet pagoda]

weiner parses

[gritty laurel]

"pumpers only, fast key"

[feral mason]

sorry i will refrain

this is bad ot

assa nerfs amirite?

[spice spire]

I’ve never used one in my life (and I won’t)

[spring moat]

I’m glad I’ve been married for 15 years and don’t have to deal with that bullshit

[balmy condor]

this is peak assa channel what you mean

[glad osprey]

Not really but the culture around it is yeah

[spice spire]

Real

[glad osprey]

The app wasn’t intended to be for pick ups only

[past panther]

My younger brother unironically schizoposts on dating apps like this

[balmy condor]

it's 1pm on a monday what else are we gonna talk about

[feral mason]

whenever i do this rambling on outlaw i get bullied

[runic hinge]

My brother used to say Facebook is there for people who didn’t get laid in high school to have a chance

[past panther]

i love talking about closeted republicans and hook ups

[spring moat]

One of us, one of us

[feral mason]

i am one of nobody

i just play everything

[past panther]

our chat is as cohesive as outlaw is as a spec

it isn’t

[balmy condor]

sorry cough KEEP CHANNELS ON TOPIC

[feral mason]

ok pre mutilate man

[glad osprey]

I have a boyfriend but he bullies me for playing wow

[balmy condor]

(we haven't had an assa question in a half hour who cares)

[past panther]

why deathmark no mastery scaling

[spring moat]

I think you mean an ex-boyfriend

[past panther]

blizzard bad

there

[glad osprey]

LMAO

[balmy condor]

my rule is that as long as it's friendly yapping and we are still answering questions and helping people who ask for it, it's fine

[spice spire]

Dog I literally was somehow taken for 13 years just by kinda doing nothing

[glad osprey]

I’m young asf , I haven’t met many other wow players in the same age group

I play the old person game

[spice spire]

I got nothing

[glad osprey]

(I’m 21)

[balmy condor]

if we start getting angry or people don't answer the questions

[spice spire]

Ur old by default

[balmy condor]

we start clampin

[feral mason]

im 19

[runic hinge]

Timmy is youngest person alive

[spice spire]

No one under the age of 74 plays wow

[glad osprey]

ok that’s a record

[feral mason]

i have yet to meet a person in this discord who is younger than me

[balmy condor]

hey king

[thick juniper]

I’m a sad lonely 37 year old, do I fit here?

[feral mason]

and ive been here like 2 years now

[spice spire]

Close enough bud

[feral mason]

[spring moat]

You’re officially old when you sneeze and throw out your back

[glad osprey]

I applaud you

[spice spire]

Welcome

[glad osprey]

everyone in my guild is like 30+

except one dude

[spring moat]

That’s the best kind of guilds

[balmy condor]

age is just a number on the internet (as long as its higher than 18)

[spice spire]

You don’t die when you turn 30? Wtf

[past panther]

my name is timmy as well and i am not the youngest here

[noble verge]

Is the Ascendance dagger still worth crafting if you already have 2x Regicide? or is Dawnthread worth it in the long run?

[spice spire]

YouTuber speaking

[runic hinge]

Just inside

[feral mason]

my name is not timmy

[runic hinge]

LOL

[balmy condor]

yeah it's good

[past panther]

poser

[spice spire]

Timothy*

[feral mason]

there is lore behind this username

[balmy condor]

ascendance is technically best on offhand for raids

[glad osprey]

I’m wondering the same tbh is it better to have an ascendance dagger with a blood kissed whatever the fuck or is it better just to have the blood kissed whatever the fuck

[balmy condor]

you wanna have any dagger at 639 in your main hand

[spring moat]

That’s a lot of fucking going on

[limber lion]

if dagger bigger ilvl, then put in main hand

if dagger smaller ilvl, put in offhand

:)

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

and your offhand should either be another 639, or ascendance 636

[glad osprey]

Ye but ascendance gives that one effect

And idk if it’s worth having it for that alone

[balmy condor]

yeh

[glad osprey]

or if people just craft it because they have bad rng

[feral mason]

I used to play this shooter game when i was super young, played with an asian guy with a really bad accent who kept screaming "fiyee" every time we engaged the enemy instead of fire

so i was called that

[balmy condor]

it's worth for raids

[feral mason]

then I combined it with Tieme my real name

and now its this abomination

[spice spire]

Wait

I thought that was a meme in the fantasy league

[noble verge]

how about M+ though?

[feral mason]

no

[spice spire]

I see

[limber lion]

Dawnthread for m+

[balmy condor]

dawnthread

[limber lion]

bald

[feral mason]

wow he just called my legal name a meme

[spice spire]

Bro

[feral mason]

unacceptable

[spice spire]

Brother my legal name is a meme wdym

Whispyr just calls me Riley

[limber lion]

fuck I didn't get a thumbs up

[bright tartan]

Hi is fatebound weaker in m+ than stalker?

[limber lion]

gg

[spice spire]

Yes

[gritty laurel]

don't let that stop you from throwing your spare change at those mfs though

[balmy condor]

cause I'm tryna make a movie dawg

[feral mason]

why cant we just also play fatebound while playing deathstalker? we literally have millions of gold coins in our backpacks? just use those?

hello lizzard?

[runic hinge]

Unlucky you’re just another one in the sea of red

[limber lion]

it's true :(

one of us

[spice spire]

Brother you good?

That was a top ten down bad comment

[mystic osprey]

😭

[limber lion]

I wonder if someone has Rhoades as their first name

[feral mason]

[limber lion]

would probs make good friends with mr. Diet Pepsi

[spice spire]

[feral mason]

rhoades first name is crazy

[past panther]

my 4th grade’s teachers government name was dusty dickey

[glad osprey]

o god

[feral mason]

??????

[past panther]

his parents were not kind to him

[glad osprey]

id get a name change fr

[feral mason]

at least they didnt make a typo with an m at the start of the name

instead of the d

[spice spire]

Same

[limber lion]

So is X Æ A-12

[spice spire]

Buddy’s father’s name was Richard Head

So like

[gritty laurel]

yeah you can't have a name like that and work at a school. kids are ruthless

[spice spire]

[upper wraith]

nice to meet you dick head

[feral mason]

If I wouldve been a girl my first name wouldve been Jurrian

[balmy condor]

cheap on the blizzard store

[tame agate]

anyone know what addon/wa whispyr has that tracks button presses. thought it was details but that doesn't seem to work the same way

[feral mason]

i thank the gods every day im not a woman

[gritty laurel]

i used to know a Richard Dick, he leaned into the nicknames

[feral mason]

(not in that way just the name)

[balmy condor]

it's a wa from zac

let me see if I have the link

[spice spire]

There was an old one too

Idk if it’s been updated

Trufigcd

Or some shit

[feral mason]

oh yeah btw guys

important

[balmy condor]

trufi is ass

[feral mason]

if zac ever comes in here call him zinc

[spice spire]

It was

[feral mason]

i told him its a combination of twink and zac and he is not a fan

[limber lion]

oh is he also part of the twink squad?

[balmy condor]

https://wago.io/b9euX-znp

[feral mason]

with what he feeds himself he has to be

[tame agate]

tyty sir, stay blessed

[spice spire]

Good shit

[acoustic roost]

does it use models

[balmy condor]

no like trufi is just actual trash

[balmy condor]

no

:)

I checked

[cerulean nest]

why? lol

[spice spire]

Wait did you update yours?

[balmy condor]

coded like shit and it just reads combat log for successful casts I think but it's got weird shit where it's casts from environment and it quadruple counts rupture and bone spikes and shit idk I did a delve with it at one point and it was full spamming a buff that the delve was giving me

it's just a bigger fps drop for an objectively bad addon

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

yes

[spice spire]

Hell yeah

[balmy condor]

it's crazy how trufi can exist when details built in gcd tracker is just better

and they spent like a week doing it

you have one job as an addon

legit the only thing it does

is track casts

and it can't do it

insane

[cold sparrow]

Hi, I am new to assa for m+ so I have a few beginner questions to try and understand it better:

1. From the image on wowhead, the first ability from stealth is Ambush if we dont have Darkest Night ready, otherwise garrote and then skip ambush? I assume it is because of deathstalker marks?
2. When going into CDs, we try to apply 5 garrotes and 5 ruptures and CT beforehand (Prio 1 of having enough energy?), getting caustic spatter up with mutilate, then building to 5+ CP so we can do (DM >) KB > Env spam basically?
3. This is more specific, but what if KB comes off CD and we dont have any bleeds on pack yet (e.g. chain pull), do we try to maintain garrote on 3 targets and spread rupture to 5, CT up, and then go into KB > Env spam?
4. Vanish is always used for DM, so either apply improved garrote before DM or re-apply when already up beforehand during DM?
5. Shiv always during last 8 seconds of KB? (no leightweight shiv talented)

Sry for the huge block of text

[limber lion]

I already pressed the reply button but then I saw Whispyr typing

🫡

[spice spire]

Real

[balmy condor]

1. yep, if you have darkest night up you would want to just use that instead of ambush
2. situational, generally just want to use the carnage window to spread bleeds, or have enough energy up to be able to spam every gcd, but yes, generally bleeds -> cds -> envenom
3. you don't spread garrote outside of carnage unless you REALLY need the energy from it, just get rupture up on your target, ct and hit kb that's fine
4. in dungeons you generally want to vanish to give you a carnage window, 90% of the time if you're gonna press deathmark on something, you'll have a stealth to begin with anyway
5. yes

[wispy epoch]

Mid-combat, vanish comes up, should we be re-initiating with ambush first or just go straight into garrote and ruptures?

[wispy epoch]

🙂

[cinder quartz]

whispyr i appreciate ur ironwire opener->blackjack->iron wire callout in one of your previous streams

[wispy epoch]

Wait that’s a thing…?!

[cerulean nest]

should I basically just be using vanish for the roots on M ovinax since we don’t take improved garrote?