assassination

[quartz cloak]

Sometimes tanks whispered that they are sorry for not letting me restealth

[balmy condor]

Exactly as good as it is now

[subtle tundra]

but youd probably play master assassin, right?

or do we just not have the points for it

[balmy condor]

Idk what you would drop for it

Amp poison I guess?

[warm vortex]

I feel like it’s smth we will see once it hits

[subtle tundra]

there needs to be coocking

[balmy condor]

Playing deadly + instant feels just strictly incorrect though tbh

[subtle tundra]

cocking

cooking

[grim jay]

Ive heard you can drop tea because its autouse only and dead
(just kidding)

[balmy condor]

There is no cooking that can save double vanish

[solid venture]

COCK

[grim jay]

Has that OG kinda feel

The poisons that were with you all the time

Amp is just the new kid on the block

[warm vortex]

Also does anyone know why they made the change to tea

Seems kinda pointless

[balmy condor]

Like double vanish’s dps has to be evaluated in dungeonroute and in dungeonroute it’s 7% behind

MA can’t save that

[grim jay]

For people that dont want to actively use it

[balmy condor]

So casuals don’t have to press it

[storm hedge]

What is you don't use it for DPS but to cheese mechanics?

[subtle tundra]

i miss shadow dance... the better 2nd vanish charge

[balmy condor]

You can remove a keybind and still get like 80% of the value and vibe

[grim jay]

Doesnt change anything

[warm vortex]

Shadow dance should have never been class wide imo, does not fit with non sub rogues at all imo

[warm vortex]

I feel like making it auto ruins it for more people than it benefits

[balmy condor]

I mean realistically looking at these log reviews from this patch, none of these mfers using tea correctly anyway

They’re basically using it the auto way already

[warm vortex]

And casuals will prolly just insta use all 3 in ST then complain on the forums about assas ST energy

[balmy condor]

Idk how this is possible

[grim jay]

MA would probably only save subter if anything I guess (with right tuning), the vanish point would probably still be better elsewhere, right?

[grim jay]

Its literally just the same

[quiet oar]

just say you buying some milk

[balmy condor]

You’re going from pressing tea to pressing tea with the option to not press tea

[grim jay]

Based

[balmy condor]

It’s legit the same but better

Idk what the issue is

[subtle tundra]

im pretty sure i will consume the charges without wanting to

i do drop below 30 energy

[warm vortex]

Yea

[balmy condor]

Probably

[warm vortex]

But tbf
It’s prolly gonna be bad at first

But good once people get used to it

[balmy condor]

That’s definitely one way to say you’re bad

[subtle tundra]

yes i am

mad?

stay mad

[balmy condor]

No

[subtle tundra]

KID

[balmy condor]

I’m not mad

[subtle tundra]

YES YOU ARE

[balmy condor]

I pity you

[solar wyvern]

How big of an impact is the caustic nerf with Cleave build? Bleed build? Or is it offset enough by the tier buffs?

[balmy condor]

This is me being sad for you

[subtle tundra]

yea cause im work and typing here instead of doing my work?

[balmy condor]

Pins

[grim jay]

Pins

[warm vortex]

Imagine being able to do something at work :(

[oak tangle]

wtb transmog option for daggers

that is thumbtacks

[grim jay]

Same

[solar wyvern]

Ah pins strike again

[bronze pike]

People don’t like to admit they’re bad

[grim jay]

Your name hurts my brain every single time

[bronze pike]

And how this qol change effects them

Cause it implies they are bad

Even if it benefits them

[quiet oar]

He is australian

[balmy condor]

Like even if you do trigger it on accident

It’s just like

[oak tangle]

i've just written it the correct way up for you 🙂 ❤️

[balmy condor]

Still fine?

[quiet oar]

Our names hurt him

wdym

[bronze pike]

A good example is how outlaw casuals hate new er

[subtle tundra]

i hate new ER

[bronze pike]

Cause it has the potential to shit on their number 1 excuse

[grim jay]

Im just turning my phone around

[balmy condor]

Worst case if you’re giga shit and really want to avoid auto casting you macro it to shiv

[bronze pike]

“Rtb rng makes me bad”

[warm vortex]

Yea
I’m prolly just being worried it’s getting changed

No way to tell until it happens

[subtle tundra]

what ER

echoing reprimand?

i hate new er

[bronze pike]

Ya solid players hate new er for other reasons

[subtle tundra]

cause it replaces current one, which i like

[warm vortex]

Will prolly be fine tbh

I’m just overly worried

[grim jay]

Based and real

[bronze pike]

Bads hate it cause it has the potential to devalue rtb into “press on cd ignore all rules and buffs”

[warm vortex]

I’m still very confused even after watching the videos and reading the skill

By supercharging combo points

It just means your next 2 finishing moves right

[balmy condor]

Yes

[bronze pike]

Which is the no1 complaint about outlaw from the community. “Muh rtb is rng that’s why I suck at outlaw”

[warm vortex]

Alright

[grim jay]

They are stuck in the past on many things

Ngl

[warm vortex]

Tbh I think I am gonna prefer the new echoing

[bronze pike]

Ye

[warm vortex]

Tbh I’m happy when it comes to cov powers it’s not sepsis

Fuck sepsis

[grim jay]

But honestly my favorite complaint is that danse macabre is way too complicated on sub

While its actually just there

[subtle tundra]

my favorite assa complaint is when new players come in and complain about target swapping

[warm vortex]

My main complaint at sub is that it feels shit to play with dust. Going soon tho

[subtle tundra]

for doting

[warm vortex]

Tbh if you had to get garrote on everything out of stealth it would suck

But nope just need rupture

[grim jay]

Im glad for both sin and sub that they reverted the earlier changes tho, so that sub is a 1.5min spec then

[subtle tundra]

i miss my multi doting days grargh

[grim jay]

The earlier ones wouldve made it 2 min

Which wouldve been terrible

[wanton mortar]

anyone knows something about the recraft method on weapons to save crest on 2nd item? something about going from r5 to r4

[grim jay]

Multiple ways

You craft it first

Then recraft it with different embellishment

Or different rank of missive

Or different missives should work aswell

[warm vortex]

Also griftas embellishment is surprisingly strong, would 100% recommend trying it ;)

[grim jay]

I do have that

Sparkle is really important

[warm vortex]

Literally unable to play some classes without the proc from this

[quiet oar]

but

you need to relog

[oak tangle]

it couldn't do it, but this is as close as i could get from ai to make a rogue holding pins as daggers

[quiet oar]

after recrafting it

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/pinhead-cynobite-hellraiser-gif-11780143826982285355

[onyx linden]

What? How does this save crests on a second item?

[grim jay]

Because you crafted one dagger that filled both your weapon slot watermarks with 636

So the offhand is free until 636

Can probably do the same with a ring actually

[onyx linden]

Wtf. So if you just recraft it different you can upgrade another one? wow

[woven shore]

Kekw

[grim jay]

Yeah kinda

Probably not intended tho

Or most likely

[wanton mortar]

recrafting with diferent stats work? or do i need to change the embelishment

[sweet sinew]

Can someone explain me like I'm five how Shiv works?

[grim jay]

Stats should work. Iirc someone did it with changing missive from r3 to r2

[sweet sinew]

If I play 2 charges do I use both with Kingsbane? What about 1 charge Shiv?

[grim jay]

Press button deal more nature damage

[sweet sinew]

Do I have shiv charges between Kingsbane?

[grim jay]

Yes, 2 to cover full kb
One on CD and preferably at the end of KB

[grim jay]

If you dont play with 2 shiv ye

[sweet sinew]

analyzer says my shiv usage is garbage

[wanton mortar]

i just recrafted diferent stats and embelish

but i see weapon still asking for gilded upgrade

[sweet sinew]

So if I have 2 charges I only use shiv with Kingsbane?

[grim jay]

You need to relog

[grim jay]

Yes

[ashen rover]

Yes

[grim jay]

Unless you can fit in a use in m+

Because you dont wanna kb a pack

But the charge will be back up for if you wanna kb

[sweet sinew]

I don't want to kb a pack? 😮

[ashen rover]

There's no need really, only to soothe mobs

[grim jay]

Sometimes its not worth to KB if the pack is shortlived

[ashen rover]

for shiv I mean*

[grim jay]

If you play the bleed build or strictly for prio damage its still worth

[ashen rover]

But kb is up every minute you should use it on cd

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

[grim jay]

Idk about you but I dont kb if 2 people used CDs on a pack that doesnt have a tanky mob to begin with

[sweet sinew]

I would guess that you use KB on every pack if you have it up with boss too

[balmy condor]

I mean if you can get a good use next pull sure

[nocturne quail]

Casting less KB’s in a dungeon

[sweet sinew]

There are plenty of big mobs in packs

[balmy condor]

But 1 min is up

A lot

[grim jay]

Ye thats what I meant

Maybe didnt word it clearly

[balmy condor]

There’s very little reason to not just full rip it

[oak tangle]

especially this week with the CDR

[sweet sinew]

I'm very new to playing rogue again, but I will improve 🙂 Thanks guys!

[ashen rover]

Well then it's up to you to learn the dungeons timings with experience, you'll know when you have to hold for a specific pack or boss but most of the time you should slam it on cd, better have a bad kb than hold on to it

[grim jay]

Yeah thats a thing aswell

[balmy condor]

The cdr is so troll man

[nocturne quail]

Some key level every pull will be a minute

[balmy condor]

Doesn’t work on shiv or tea or trinket or potion or feint

Legit like 75% of shit it doesn’t work

[grim jay]

Yeah thats not a key level someone that needs help to understand shiv will play

[ashen rover]

Thats why I felt like it had no effect

[grim jay]

Didnt they even add more spells to it?

I didnt really pay attention

[balmy condor]

Since Friday?

I didn’t see hotfixes

[oak tangle]

it used to give crit no? now the CDR is just bigger

[grim jay]

Idk there was a wowhead post somewhere, dunno when it was

[balmy condor]

They buffed the cdr

But I don’t think they fixed it to actually work on stuff

It wasn’t working Friday

They don’t hotfix weekends

Would’ve had to been squeezed in at like 7pm on Friday

Who tf is hotfixing affixes after hours on Friday

[royal lantern]

me

[ornate dawn]

straight to jail

[grim jay]

I cant find it rn either, but maybe didnt read right. I usually just skip over those because I dont care anyways

Affixes are just kinda an it is what it is thing for me

As long as I dont open my character window and get annoyed by my trinket being desynced

I even thought about just using 2 passive trinkets, dunno if thats worth tho

Or transmitter

[kind forge]

[subtle tundra]

do 12s so its irrelevant

[naive crane]

@balmy condor do you think the VV build will be the better ST build after the new buffs? I know its req St build on wowhead already but most of the top rogues on wacraftlogs run the imp garrote build. Any thoughts? ❤️

[shrewd night]

[grim jay]

They probably run that because it sims higher for them

As the guide says there are multiple different interchangeable talents

And therefore a ton of builds

Sanguine blades sims decently higher for me aswell

Just taking it at face value

[safe patrol]

bad quality sorry, screenshot from tettles gearing yt video, does this work for daggers?

[grim jay]

Yes

[safe patrol]

how do you do it? I recrafted my dagger but no luck

[grim jay]

Recraft with different embellishment

[strange comet]

guyz i cant give pull timer at the keys, does anyone know why?

[grim jay]

And relog

[grim jay]

Maybe you dont have lead

[safe patrol]

cheers

[strange comet]

its me, it does it since 2 day :S

[grim jay]

Do you have dbm or bigwigs activated? Maybe you disabled it

[shrewd night]

Surely missive is less expensive

[grim jay]

Well I had none and added griftah

But ye if it works it is probably less expensive unless you dont run an embellishment

[shrewd night]

[rotund oak]

missives for prof equipment go up to 2.6k missives for regular gear 1.3k

[grim jay]

Dont the Prof ones use different mats?

[rotund oak]

yeah and the inks are fairly cheesy still

and they always need arathor spears and luredrops

but its def worth paying 5k for max rank missives/prof equipment for specific strategies for goldmaking

ive paid 10k materials+craft for max rank enchanting rod

[sharp trellis]

should i upgrade my tier set hero stuff or eco my currency for my crafted item from 619 to 636 ? already have my dagger 636 , boat and belt 619 . M+ focus

[rotund oak]

wdym by ''eco''

[sharp trellis]

keep my currency for recraft

[rotund oak]

u could sim off the difference fam but priority should be wpns=>trinkets=>rest

thing is,whatever u upgrade u wont use crests anymore for that slot,after that u want only VS

[grim jay]

Well its mainhand > trinkets > chest/head/legs > shoulders(?) > hands/belt/boots > wrist/cloak/offhand

With rings/neck somewhere in the later 2nd half

[rotund oak]

idk why embelishment slots would be after tier set upgrades though

u kinda double dipping to stats

now i have to sim too

u are a menace

[grizzled geyser]

this sounds like a big deal and I wanna make use of it, but I'm too dumb to understand it fully

Can someone break this down for me?

[primal jolt]

ok finally playing wow again (i think)

damn sin rogue rotation seems easier now i think

than it was in df

[rotund oak]

considering its df 2.0

its about the same

[dawn heath]

are there any new sims yet?

[primal jolt]

nah no nvm its the same

ye mb

it just has coldblood now

i take that back

ok dumb question, are the seconds in which i click shit inside kingsbane still the same?

nvm i found that too

xd

[clever sapphire]

noone plays fatebound so you dont have coldblood wut (atleast i dont know why you wouldnt play deathstalker)

[primal jolt]

is it much worse in dps than deathstalker

[clever sapphire]

dunno, i know its worse and deathstalker "plays" better

[primal jolt]

my knowledge of rogue is still stuck at dragonflight season 4

i barely played

[clever sapphire]

personal opinion ofcourse

[novel star]

no

the damage is very very similar

[arctic socket]

Both hero talents are within like 2% of each other

[subtle tundra]

my dick deathstalker plays better

lies

[arctic socket]

And with higher gear ilvl fatebound starts to pull ahead of deathstalker

[dawn heath]

i just noticed im playing with the wrong weapon enchant i guess?

[novel star]

fatebound is ahead in bis actually but bis is dum

[grim jay]

What are you double dipping
The embellishments dont scale with ilvl

[novel star]

theyre really close tho

[primal jolt]

noted ty caffeine addicted friends <3

[subtle tundra]

wwwwwwwwoah>>!?!??!

[novel star]

fatebound hits a wall where its just unplayable in m+ because of defensive loss i think

but

damage wise its like fine

[dawn heath]

is authority of the deapths better?

[clever sapphire]

well it plays better because it impacts something, so that already is better gameplay for me

[arctic socket]

For pure st yeah

[novel star]

?

[worldly sail]

i was simming radiant power vs depths earlier and in single target they were the exact same for me

[rotund oak]

was under the impression they did

[arctic socket]

Either of the enchants to use are fine

[novel star]

the difference between radiant and depths is bigger in m+

where radiant just kinda clears

so use that if ur normal and do all content

[subtle tundra]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grim jay]

Because they usually do, they just currently dont

Really

[arctic socket]

In m+ radiant better

[obtuse vale]

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[rotund oak]

[primal jolt]

is the tristle tea passive thing live?

its such a shit change

[arctic socket]

No

Not yet

[novel star]

nop

[primal jolt]

ok thank god

[novel star]

but as of right now its still shit i think

they made it 30 energy instead of 50 tho

[primal jolt]

what % is it supposed to activate?

ah

[grim jay]

Idk if its intended that way, will make them really weak through out the expansion if they dont adjust it

[primal jolt]

yes thats better

[dawn heath]

top rogues in m+ are playing it htough

[primal jolt]

still shit

[novel star]

not %, flat value

[arctic socket]

The thistle tea change if you’re pooling right probably will never proc it

[novel star]

but yeh

quite garbage

[primal jolt]

yup

[rotund oak]

very sus

[novel star]

somewhat minimal actual impact on dmg but its just cringe

[primal jolt]

cant wait to have to keep track of my energy not getting below 30

ig

[subtle tundra]

what about fatebound m+ sims, fuu doesnt have

wwwwwww

[novel star]

dno i think its kinda piss in m+ cus singular focus and ctw

[subtle tundra]

@vestal wren my beloved

[novel star]

and mark spattering n shit

but in raid its good

[subtle tundra]

coins spatter too

[novel star]

ya

if u roll a lot of tails

[vestal wren]

can add it in a future iteration

[novel star]

but either way losing bait n switch just fucks u no?

at a certain key level

or mayb not idk

im a shitter

[grim jay]

Definitely, especially since they are really weak rn. Maybe they are really weak because of that even, as they might just be base value.
Maybe they do want it that way to mirror what they did with tier sets (minimalistic first season)

[past panther]

Cause deathmark feel like a weak 2 min cd to anyone else?

[novel star]

no

[dawn heath]

its pretty weak

[rotund oak]

deathmark

[grim jay]

Its one of the better ones

Wtf

[dawn heath]

but we have insanely high sustain dps outside of cds

[grim jay]

Kb is insanely weak (on its own as a 1 min burst, which is fine)

[rotund oak]

yeah exactly

[dawn heath]

(m+)

[rotund oak]

deathmark is the same

it duplicates the bleeds

thats all

if u press it w/o bleeds on it duplicates nothing

[novel star]

i mean

[rotund oak]

u need to apply to duplicate them

[novel star]

thats not really true

[grim jay]

Poisons

[novel star]

it also doubles your kingsbane ramp speed

lol

[grim jay]

And amp

[primal jolt]

tempted to try out outlaw for tww even though i swore never to touch it

been sin all my life

chat what do i do

[grim jay]

Eww

No reason to play outlaw if you dont want to

[primal jolt]

ikr big ew

[kindred hinge]

Why do yoou want to do Outlaw now when Sin is finally great?

[primal jolt]

exactly

[rotund oak]

?

[primal jolt]

i actually had no idea sin is in a good state

[novel star]

what up

[primal jolt]

let me guess sin is op when you get every aug buff and every PI

[rotund oak]

how does it duplicate the ramp speed

[primal jolt]

i love having pocket aug and pi every raid

[kindred hinge]

Sin is very good even as stand alone, in keys though

[rotund oak]

how does that make sense

[novel star]

because it doubles your poison applications

[grim jay]

Its top tier in m+ and mid in raid
More top tier and less mid next week

[kindred hinge]

In raid rogue kinda sucks

[novel star]

its literally in the tooltip

?

we HATE reading

in this discord

[primal jolt]

thats crazy, what about sub?

ur a blue name so im assuming

[grim jay]

Mid in raid and mid in m+

[royal lantern]

idc what you said there, but i agree

[primal jolt]

thats more like it, sub it is

[grim jay]

Rare moment of sap trolling

[primal jolt]

i only enjoy my D tier sin rogue

[novel star]

a i didnt kno it was troll

teehee

[grim jay]

Unintentional troll

[novel star]

oh

then u also unintentionally trolled me

[grim jay]

Maybe I intentionally trolled you with something unintentional

[rotund oak]

now im trying to put the math behind it for like 50 stacks

duplicates ramp my ass

u basicly ramp it in 2 finishers

but anyway

[arctic socket]

What happens next week

[rotund oak]

ye its true

[novel star]

i mean it just does

and ramping it in 2 finishers is also not the case

how fast kb ramps is very relevant

[grim jay]

That which Whispyr pinned for thy

[arctic socket]

There’s a new pin

There should be a big ass thing that comes up

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/hellraiser-pinhead-what-coolstorybro-head-gif-4593768

Ye that

The pinhead

[arctic socket]

That’s a nice looking change

[ripe carbon]

what build do u guys go for first boss in mythic?

i mean build

[arctic socket]

Splatter got hit with a nerf specs dead 😦

[novel star]

just spatter

ct is unnecessary unless your guild/comp is turbo bad

[ripe carbon]

well were not the best guild

[grim jay]

Idk I kinda fear an aura nerf, but only hope for another 5% off of caustic

Bcs now its just a buff everywhere

[novel star]

ultimately the issue is that ur purpose is most likely not to nuke adds

[rotund oak]

whispyr made specific builds for each raid boss on his wowhead guide

[ripe carbon]

ya i saw whysprs just wondering if people were going other builds

[arctic socket]

Well we did need a buff for our st

[novel star]

unless the players on the better burst aoe specs in ur raid are like balls bad

going ct is just greeding parse for no actual like

kill/dont kill

benefit

[grim jay]

Ye thats why I hope its just another 5% off of caustic

In some weeks

[arctic socket]

Caustic nerf shouldn’t be too bad

[rotund oak]

it prolly gonna even out

if not better

coz everything else is magnified

[grim jay]

Whispyr assumes its ~ a 1.5% aoe buff

[rotund oak]

ah cool didnt have anything quantified

but its nice to hear

[novel star]

its all just estimation

like

could be higher or lower than that

our patch notes were really dogshit bad

so we didnt get easy exact info to work with

no sims exist

[grim jay]

Ye no actual number on the chances etc

But at the end of the day its not a nerf

[novel star]

ya

[arctic socket]

Nah

[grim jay]

And people already cry about our aoe

[arctic socket]

Call it a nerf

[novel star]

its like guaranteed to be a buff in all content

just how much we dont know

and frankly im praying for not a noticeable aoe buff

we dont need it

and itd make sin a Target

[rotund oak]

everything is always a target

live free from fear

[arctic socket]

Luckily sin is at the bottom of the parses

So there’s that

[novel star]

i mean these changes are good theyre like exactly what the spec needed

but its blizzard so i dont have confidence they would make another round of good changes

[arctic socket]

And the casuals / bads will whine saying the spec is bad

[novel star]

in response to a potential overstep in aoe buf

[rotund oak]

rogue in general isnt doing rly hot rn

[novel star]

[arctic socket]

I agree

So keep it off nerf window

[novel star]

surely if anything they just have brains and knock spatter again

[rotund oak]

zeros get out of this man

[viral current]

How do u effectively AoE in m+ idgi
Indiscriminate charge garrote+rupture+crimson tempest.. then what

[rotund oak]

i cast u out foul demon

[arctic socket]

Well to effectively aoe you spread your bleeds to targets then use your cool downs on prio letting splatter go ham

[novel star]

get ct ticking, get spatter up, mash envenom until one of the two need to be maintained again

and then after a while the ruptures fall off and you have to get those back up

and repeat

[shell ivy]

Hey mate, do you mind dropping the YT link for me pls?

[viral current]

And once garrote+rupture fall.. vanish? Or do u bleed them one by one

[arctic socket]

Smash up some fok too

[novel star]

vanish on cd

[viral current]

Based

[novel star]

so if you have it yes

if you dont have it

then manually rupture 5x yeah

for scent

[rotund oak]

should check the rotational guide friend,whispyr has everything up on wowhead

[viral current]

I've started just mashing garrote nd rupture in the same target and letting Indiscriminate carnage spread it by itself cos I can't be clicking/tabbing through

[novel star]

thats fine

it doesnt lose much

majority of your damage is ct/spatter

less bleeds is whatever as long as u have 5 rups for the agi

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[viral current]

I didnt think about the agi buff at 5ruptures
Thanks for that

[arctic socket]

And the fuck ton of energy it gives

[novel star]

ya its the top of the priority list

infinite energy insane agi buff

the damage of the rupture itself is like whatever

[native seal]

i did a 9 key with my raid bhuild by accident

[novel star]

those are the main sauce

[native seal]

and i was actually kinda.... fine? aoe is definetly less but bosses melt

[novel star]

caustic spatter tuning moment

[viral current]

I'll keep that in mind
I feel like my dmg in m+ fluctuates
Must be the agi buff I unknowingly (dont) keep up
Cheers

[rotund oak]

very important,scent stacks are very important

[grim jay]

No u

[arctic socket]

They could make our st better by raising the cap of kb

That would be pretty cool

[normal mist]

Then we back to kb playstyle

[crisp pine]

it'd just be back to DF Rogue then

Which everyone kinda disliked

[rotund oak]

im sleepy and im talking on the phone with some coworker

[crisp pine]

Cause it was 90% kb

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

They could make our st better by buffing the ST spells individually

[arctic socket]

Like what

[crisp pine]

all of our ST spells are AoE Spells tho
So they'd have to nerf spatter again
Which I'm fine with honestly

[arctic socket]

Buff our multi damage / envenom

?

[dawn heath]

the pin was just estimated on st/aoe are there now updated sims or are they still work in progress?

[grim jay]

Ye like you can buff the strictly st spells and just adjust spatter

Which doesnt even need to impact overall spatter value

Kinda like they did with this round

[pastel onyx]

[grim jay]

Just that it was tier set and not St spells

[rotund oak]

BM Hunter

full send

no worries with life

[grim jay]

Well its partly accurate

Just that they didnt take the advise to heart

And didnt strife to become better versions of themself

[pastel onyx]

Amen

[crisp pine]

But why won't the people in my phone tell me exactly which Items I should take?

I don't wanna listen to robot

[arctic socket]

How do I sim that?

[crisp pine]

That's how they get you

[grim jay]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=304081/strife

Need a bfa item

For the trait

[pastel onyx]

In the past 3 days our static prevoker broke his arm while armwrestling, and I closed heavy door with my finger on its way. Lets just say our rl is not happy

[arctic socket]

Those some wild excuses to miss raid

Yeah so I slammed a really heavy door on my finger

Can’t raid tonight

[pastel onyx]

[crisp pine]

who was this man armwrestling with

Hulk?

[pastel onyx]

And me

Its still swollen

[grim jay]

Its pretty easy to break your arm while doing it

[arctic socket]

Well the breaking arm while arm wrestling is pretty common

[warm vortex]

Yea

[pastel onyx]

I think i will lose my fingernail

[crisp pine]

Damn really? Why the hell do people do it then lmao

[arctic socket]

F

[grim jay]

Because they dont think its easy

[crisp pine]

I'd be giga tilted if I broke my arm while fucking armwrestling someone

[grim jay]

Doing it wrong is even worse

Which most people do

[pastel onyx]

If its a proper armwrestling event the judge will stop u

Before u break it

If not

Well

Gg

[crisp pine]

wtf

I hate the fragility of human life

[arctic socket]

Broken finger tho there’s like 0 things you can do for it

Same with a toe

😦 just kinda deal with it

In that little annoying ass metal cast lookin thing

[grim jay]

You can break it again if it attached itself badly

[arctic socket]

“Snap” that’s better

[pastel onyx]

I have a thumb that healed with a bit of an angle

After I broke it

[arctic socket]

stop breaking your fingers

[pastel onyx]

I also almost dont have a meniscus in my left knee

[grim jay]

Can you reach the keybinds better now?

[pastel onyx]

[arctic socket]

Wait

[grim jay]

I swear I would need to rearrange my pinky to become a shift gamer

[arctic socket]

You press keybinds with you thumb?

[pastel onyx]

[grim jay]

Yes

Alt

[pastel onyx]

How

[arctic socket]

wtf

[grim jay]

X

V

Space

[arctic socket]

You’re wild asf for that

[pastel onyx]

Actually

Now that i think about it

[arctic socket]

If your thumb presses anything else besides space

[pastel onyx]

I thin i press alt with it

Too

Not sure

[winged quail]

Wait u don’t use thumb?

[arctic socket]

No I don’t

[delicate flower]

What else are you gonna use it for?

[arctic socket]

Space bar strictly

[grim jay]

Bro alt is THE thumb button, aside from mouse thumb buttons

[winged quail]

Thumbs separate us from the animals c’mon guys

[arctic socket]

Alt is our pinky key

[grim jay]

I additionally use x v f g with my thumb now that I think about it

[winged quail]

Alt is a thumber

[arctic socket]

I use my pinky for key binds

Thumb tho

Naw

[crisp pine]

If you game on this badboy all your keybinds can be tumb-binds

[grim jay]

Wtf
Which kind of cursed keyboard do you have

[pastel onyx]

I use v eith thumb

F g is index

[winged quail]

Pinky is a shift presser only

[arctic socket]

Oh wait

I meant shift

Not alt

[grim jay]

Yeah shift is a pinky keybind

Fuck shift

[pastel onyx]

Is it moonlander

[crisp pine]

alt is next so spacebar
You can't really press alt with anything else but your thumb
And if you do, you're doing it wrong

[crisp pine]

it is indeed

[pastel onyx]

I wanted to get into splits

At some point

[crisp pine]

splits are goated

I have a couple of them here

[pastel onyx]

With kinesis

[crisp pine]

moonlander is probably too expensive for starters tho

[pastel onyx]

Or what that one called that u 3d print

Or order to 3d print

[grim jay]

But I also got shit on because im able to press alt 5 comfortably and alt 6 decently lately

[pastel onyx]

I saw it from the neovim maintainer guy

That streams

[grim jay]

So I seemingly cant judge keybinds

[pastel onyx]

I forgor

[crisp pine]

I mean there are lots of models you can just print

[crisp pine]

With practice that should be possible
it's not really optimal at all

I'd never recommend anyone to bind something to alt 5 lmao

[pastel onyx]

Dactyl manuform

Found it

[grim jay]

I dont have anything bound to it either

Maximum is alt 4

And alt r

People hate on my f1-f3 keybinds aswell

[pastel onyx]

I used to have 2mins on f1

Like blades

[cunning basin]

Alt 8 is my first alt keybind for mouse over kick. Never needed it before, very much needed now x.x

[pastel onyx]

Or ar later

[past panther]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290312571328397334/1290312584612020285/image.png?ex=6704927d&is=670340fd&hm=ecd2da97fa399e00f1ad70f62258b616c2fc5dc643b4058bd23164c4e2065169& these are mine

[pastel onyx]

Now I have 60%

Kb

[crisp pine]

Ghostly on 2 lmao

holy fuck kick on F2

that's criminal actually

[grim jay]

I have stealth shroud and sap on f1-f3

[past panther]

X)

[past panther]

all my interrupts are on f2

we do a little DDR with our fingers

[cunning basin]

I know keybinds are like purely a comfort thing bc everyone like uses their hands differently but some keybinds have to be illegal

[pastel onyx]

I just put mouseover focus and focus kick on the mouse side buttons

[cunning basin]

All my kicks are shift 8, mouse over kicks are alt 8

[crisp pine]

oke but why is shift 3 kidney
and shift 4 bte
You'd think that the ability you press more often should be easier to reach

[past panther]

im used to ghostly being on 2 from when it was like a 30 second cd

[cunning basin]

I play on a naga so all my buttons are side mouse buttons

[past panther]

I’ve been moving around trying to find a more comfy kb for BtE but fighting my muscle memory was hard

[crisp pine]

I got bte on q lol

[past panther]

last time I actively played outlaw was a little in legion and BfA before the spec felt like shit

bte was a ranged stun

ghostly was a 30 second cd

[cunning basin]

Honestly muscle memory is the important thing. It's so deeply ingrained that when I level classes I haven't leveled since bfa or WoD I'll put a button on my bar and go to hit it and realize it's on the wrong button lmao

[past panther]

For sure

[cunning basin]

So whatever is comfy is always going to be optimal.

[past panther]

All of the alpha buttons beside WASD are like my ‘unique class utility/movement buttons’

I keep my biggest movement steroid on ctrl 3

[crisp pine]

Always thought it fairly easy to re-teach myself binds
Like it takes a day at most whenever I completly redo my keybinds

I might be built different tho

[past panther]

It’s not too bad but I have to like the spec to commit

Outlaw is my fave spec fantasy wise but it feels like shit to play

Outlaw feels more like sub than sub does with it using subterfuge for its main dps

[cunning basin]

I have a particular condition that causes habitual behavior and change makes me uncomfortable, it took me almost a month to adjust when I changed my UI last lmao

[past panther]

I just main sin now because it feels like the most complete and cohesive and least punished spec

[cunning basin]

No point in changing binds that all work anyways

[past panther]

I’m tweaking UI placement all the time but I also play on a 42” TV so scaling gets a little silly

[cunning basin]

🤷

That's too much screen, I can't handle them big ass monitors

[crisp pine]

aaah yea that's fair
I have a thing where I get mental breakdowns fairly often and need to change things or I wanna die
I've redecorated my flat 6 times this year

[cunning basin]

Valid AF, two sides of the same coin

[past panther]

it’s like almost 3ft away

a little over 2 1/2 ft

[cunning basin]

B R U H

[pastel onyx]

[cunning basin]

That shit is unbearable to me but more power to you if that's your thing

[past panther]

it’s a good viewing distance

[crisp pine]

honestly I'd rather have someone playing on a steam deck in my +12
Than whatever cursed setup you're using

[cunning basin]

LMAO

[past panther]

it’s all about distance my dude

[cunning basin]

A FUCKING STEAM DECK JESUS CHRIST

[past panther]

not like my nose is deep in the monitor

[grim jay]

Cute keyboard

[past panther]

i barley use my peripherals on it

full screen is in view from where I sit

[crisp pine]

Are you holding your mic in your hand while you're playing

or what's happening there

[pastel onyx]

Lol i have the same eng wallpaper on my vertical side montior

[past panther]

studio mics are made to be used about 3-7” from the mouth

[crisp pine]

but like
laying on the table?

[past panther]

i have the diaphragm pointing up at my mouth with mic a little below my chin

nah that’s just perspective

it’s up in the air

[crisp pine]

oooh I see yea

[past panther]

i push it out the way when im not using it

[grim jay]

Wait is that really called diaphragm

[cunning basin]

I think the most cursed thing about my setup is my damage numbers

[pastel onyx]

Im considering switching to iems but im too lazy to setup a mic

[past panther]

diaphragm is the part of the mic you speak into

[crisp pine]

wait is that the LG C2 btw?

[past panther]

yuh

[cunning basin]

I use classic FCT so the numbers are fucking massive and obnoxious and everyone in my guild roasts me for it lmao

[past panther]

I love it

My fiancée bought it for me as an impromptu gift

[crisp pine]

aaah
Yea that makes sense
it's very popular

[grim jay]

Oh brother its one of those moments where words are just similar.
Diaphragma in german is something way different

[past panther]

Ya i hear ya

[pastel onyx]

It also a part of a lung

Right

Or whatever

[crisp pine]

Those are my binds btw
I click on every spell with my mouse

[past panther]

chad

[grim jay]

I hate it

[pastel onyx]

Osu player ahh binds

[past panther]

i need to get better at the more meta and efficient things for binds like mouse overs

[grim jay]

But I also respect it

[crisp pine]

I swear wow classes have so little buttons

[past panther]

ret pally moment

ret pally can barely fill 1 bar utility and all

it has to have the least amount of buttons ever

[crisp pine]

in ff14
every class is like
a billion buttons to click
But also gcd of 2.5 seconds
so it still feels like ass lmao

[past panther]

Ya I couldn’t get into the gameplay loop on FFXIV

[grim jay]

Well in ffxiv you can also just place them on the bar in order

[past panther]

I wound up being a casual that took screenies and modded

[grim jay]

And gg rotation

[crisp pine]

eeh for the most part yea

[past panther]

Lol ya for the fillers at least

[crisp pine]

monk has a fun rotation in ff14 imo

[past panther]

A lot of the melee’s had a lot of off gcd buttons to weave in

[crisp pine]

was even more fun before they fixed a "bug" early in dawntrail

[crisp pine]

yea that also

[normal mist]

Oh we talking ff14

I play monke

[crisp pine]

the monk theorycrafting in ff14 is insane btw

[past panther]

I mained RDM and AST

[normal mist]

🐒

[past panther]

WoW is the only MMO I don’t play a caster in for some reason

[crisp pine]

cause caster in wow is incredibly lame

[normal mist]

Ff14 is the only mmo I enjoy tanking

[past panther]

My second favorite character is frost mage and I don’t like what they’ve done with it

[normal mist]

Therefore I play warrior

[past panther]

Frost feels like a faster destro lock with worse buttons

[crisp pine]

Did you do current savage already? Those are fun to tank imo

the extremes too

Dawntrail content is kinda sick

[normal mist]

I'm a fucking casual

[crisp pine]

o

[normal mist]

Never did current extremes nor savage

But I do take screenshots without mods

[grim jay]

Dark knight or whatever and gunwhatever look like cool tanks

[crisp pine]

ah
They're great
especially day 1
when you have to blind prog them
It's insanely fun

I'm kinda locked into paying 13 bucks a month to square
Cause I got a house
And if I don't log in once a month they're gonna take it away from me

cool fun fact I interviewed Yoshi-P a couple of times
And he apologised to me for making me pay 13 a month to keep my house

nice guy

[past panther]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1252830508178604062/1253738549908602940/2021-04-16_10-42-22-954_Maya_CelestiaUp.png?ex=6704abc3&is=67035a43&hm=6668b45f5530d54259d386232538cc491d1fb47199a68a40902cc5f57244ae16& i just took screenies

[normal mist]

I do fanta a lot thanks for asking

[royal lantern]

tbf the thing is

tanks in ff14 are just dps gameplay except that you press a deffensive ability when a tankbuster is comming

but ye, gunbreaker is fun

[past panther]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1252830508178604062/1253737955424600227/2021-05-13_08-59-19-164_Neneko_Sunkissed.png?ex=6704ab35&is=670359b5&hm=314f2ff8883ee315631ecc0532dff279cdf8c1d75c93be85648ee2f9bd8c4196&

[grim jay]

So basically dh tank

[royal lantern]

was my main class

[grim jay]

I only played ninja, black mage and dragoon

[shrewd obsidian]

Hey guys tried to make a sense of all the replys on here about shiv and tea in m+ but led me more confused than before. Is there a command for it ?

[grim jay]

Dragoon was my fav

[crisp pine]

you press shiv during last 8 seconds of kingsbane
and you press tea during shiv

[hard garnet]

Does anyone know if scroll of momentum’s bonus damage would scale with speed tertiary?

[royal lantern]

its simple

you use tea togheter with shiv when it results in you actually getting 100energy

the only exception is on pull with 3 charges tea, you use it regardless of energy there to get the CD running

[storm hedge]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[past panther]

Oh, and, do you guys prio getting SnD or Rupture up first?

[royal lantern]

rupture ofc

misstyped

rupture

[novel star]

was gonna say

[past panther]

That’s what I was kinda thinking

[normal mist]

I love it when I upload images and they start a never ending process of loading.

[past panther]

It feels so bad shoving SnD into the opener

[crisp pine]

Garrote Garrote SnD to make whispyr mad

[royal lantern]

sleep delrived brain

[novel star]

eh

its just one gcd now

[past panther]

Ya thankfully

[royal lantern]

you use SnD with the 1cp you get from Bonespike and thats it

[past panther]

Ye

[crisp pine]

well we don't have to worry about it in 11.0.5 anymore

[shrewd obsidian]

ok thx to both of you ❤️

[past panther]

I am soo hype for that too

[novel star]

ya i mean itll be nice to not press it i guess but its not like

insane

[crisp pine]

I honestly don't care about it
it's one gcd in a whole dungeon
Wayyy more excited about the twist the knife changes

[thorn rivet]

whats happening to SnD?

[crisp pine]

you just get it if you press envenom

instead of it extending it

[past panther]

ye

[novel star]

envenom grants snd duration instead of extending

[crisp pine]

or just extending it

[thorn rivet]

holy

[novel star]

really no difference except the first snd is now just skipped for er envenom

[normal mist]

I sent these almost 10 mins ago

[subtle tundra]

its actually 2 globals cause erm you need a global to generate

[normal mist]

Holy moly

[subtle tundra]

erm

[novel star]

no u dont buddy

🤓

[subtle tundra]

in a o yyy

aoe

opener and shit

[crisp pine]

I always have full CP

I don't use generators

[novel star]

m+ fake mode for fake gamers sorry

[arctic socket]

I could

Would

[crisp pine]

Those are for nerds

[subtle tundra]

i will make out with your father

[grim jay]

I expected some feet from you

[novel star]

why not me

[subtle tundra]

more dominance

[normal mist]

Those are SS I took over a year ago

[crisp pine]

ooh that's nice

Did you get the pvp stuff? The techwear gear? There are some very nice sets with them

[grim jay]

You mean you werent into feet at that point?

[tropic acorn]

Hey, I’m looking for a new class to level when I fill out my vault. How does rogue feel?

[normal mist]

If you're asking if I killed my mind during hours on end...

[novel star]

it didnt change too much this expansion so idk

feels good if you already liked it

[grim jay]

Thats so based

[subtle tundra]

i could see myself push this season

[crisp pine]

You can just do the daily roulette tho .-.

[subtle tundra]

but i dont have time irl

[novel star]

quit your job

[grim jay]

Same

[grim jay]

Same

[subtle tundra]

id be a weekend pusher

[thorn rivet]

real

[subtle tundra]

but i also need time to go gym and have social life

but but

[normal mist]

More images uploading, they will arrive in 10 minutes or something xD

[subtle tundra]

m+ requires less time now

cause no more 20 billion affix combos

[spice surge]

Dungeons this season seem fine, atleast from doing 10s

Havent started the push yet

[subtle tundra]

that aswell, dungeons seemed better this season so far than in the whole of df

for me

[thorn rivet]

most are pretty chill

[novel star]

siege is cancer

gb is like semi cancer

rest are fine

[thorn rivet]

^

[subtle tundra]

i like both

gb i farmed so its easy for me

[novel star]

i like gb when its smooth

[subtle tundra]

siege i played in bfa

[novel star]

but its just so big

[indigo elk]

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[novel star]

if u have to release ur walking for 2 hours in gb

it feels like

[thorn rivet]

still no skardyns :(

[royal lantern]

stonvault is bad cus the stone boss takes ages

and the twins boss is just oof

[spice surge]

Dawnbreaker surprising my favourite, didnt expect that when i first played it on hc

[royal lantern]

ita fast

like, fast dungeons are good

[normal mist]

@crisp pine

[spice surge]

So is mist

[royal lantern]

7hour GB/siege slogfests are bad

[spice surge]

But its probably my least favourite

[thorn rivet]

i think mist is the easiest

[crisp pine]

It's genuinely fucked up how good Miqo'te look

[novel star]

dawnbreaker is really good

just sucked in early pugs cus ppl didnt know wtf to do

[crisp pine]

I changed to femroth early in dawntrail
And was so upset
That they couldn't wear most helmets lmao

[novel star]

but with a proper route its v fun

[crisp pine]

same with the bunnies smh

[normal mist]

Most of my playtime is male Hyur tho

[crisp pine]

I will never be able to understand that but I respect your decision

like the bunny boys are the hottest thing on earth

[grim jay]

Just glitch it

[arctic socket]

Would definitely

[normal mist]

Me too buddy me too

[thorn rivet]

real

[grim jay]

[crisp pine]

sooo
Any of you checked out throne and liberty?

it's kinda ass ngl

[thorn rivet]

i downloaded but havent started playing yet

[crisp pine]

The entire time playing I was like
"I could just play gw2 instead" lmao

goated game btw

[normal mist]

GW2 + LA had a son

[crisp pine]

pretty much yea

[thorn rivet]

lost ark sucked me in hard

[normal mist]

Me too until I reached T3 (during global launch as a f2p) and understood that game wasn't for me

[thorn rivet]

yeah i got all the way through t3 and just spent days and days trying to gamble 1 upgrade on a piece and gave up

[crisp pine]

T4 is sick af

[dusty phoenix]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spring moat]

H queen down in a 25+ man group. No trinket or ring. Big let down for pretty much everyone. Three shields 🤯

[quartz cloak]

Necrotic wake must be worst dungeon this rotation ngl

I hate it

[thorn rivet]

agreed

[past panther]

seems like it’ll fizzle out really fast

[quartz cloak]

Pretty sure it wasn’t that bad in SL from what I remember

[past panther]

T&L looks like it be fun for the first 40-50 hours with friends and run out of stuff to do rly fast

Rather just play a good/fleshed out kMMO if I’m gonna try something with some nasty monetization

Like BDO

The best waiting room

[thorn rivet]

blue protocol🤯

[nova aspen]

they need to remove the item pickups and tune accordingly

[spice spire]

I like wake

Am I a hater

[nova aspen]

its just very poor design in high key level where if u fail the 3rd boss after using 3 spears its a bricked key

[spice surge]

You can do it without, it just takes forever

You need to focus the aboms and only cleave the boss

[nova aspen]

u can but u cant time the key at that point

[spice surge]

Most keys get bricked if you have a full wipe now anyway

[nova aspen]

it also becomes infinitely harder tho

the 3rd boss

[spring moat]

I guess I need to use urban dictionary, but does brick mean you’re not gonna time it

[nova aspen]

they need to tune him down so there is more strategy with item pickups

or just remove the items

imo

[past panther]

brick comes from something being a brick/paperweight

ie useless no longer serves its purpose

[nova aspen]

im trying to think of keys where ive wiped and still timed it, and i can think of 4

[past panther]

what level tho

like 9+?

[nova aspen]

10s

ive timed 4 out of 8 on 10 so far, and necrotic has been the biggest struggle so far with pugs

[quartz cloak]

NW just has too much random stuff going on

[nova aspen]

it just requires a bit more coordination with like kick assignments

[quartz cloak]

Ara, Dawn and City are pretty forgivable Timer wise

[nova aspen]

but more importantly it requires less fuck ups

[grim jay]

Idk I think NW itself is fairly fine

Its only the item necessity on stitch

[nova aspen]

ive also wiped in dawn 10 and still timed it with 8 seconds left xD

yea the dungeon itself i dont mind, but the design is poor

[quartz cloak]

Ppl have to play NW super correctly to not make it miserable.

[grim jay]

Think you can time most 10s with one or two wipes tbf

[grim jay]

Idk, there isnt much to do wrong

Imo

Kicks arent a huge issue

Tank can frontal people if stupid

Thats about it

[nova aspen]

the dungeon becomes much more tolerable with kick assignments

[quartz cloak]

I don’t know how often ppl were dying at 3rd boss room from throw flesh stuff, to big pulls, 3rd boss hook bugs, morbid fixation etc

Not staying in sauce you can’t even see on the ground

All those crap

[grim jay]

Throw flesh shouldnt kill

Big pulls arent a dungeon issue

Didnt encounter hook bugs tbf

And fixation is 100% a skill issue

[nova aspen]

i ran into that issue in week 1

hook was landing on orb affix

[grim jay]

Ye the orbs were f'ed up

But ive seen some people claiming hook bug if they just outranged the boss

[nova aspen]

ive not experienced any other bug really

so i cant say

how accurate the hook needs to be is kind of annoying tho