assassination

[balmy condor]

if there's a bug in the forest but all but like 10 theorycrafters looking at datamining knows there's a bug, does it actually matter

[lament stump]

the one with deathstalker

[spice surge]

Only reason i notice is because im dumb and spend a lot of time trying to make sure simulationcraft accurately simulates world of warcraft, a regular player wouldnt notice

[tepid lichen]

like flensing knives is still a thing how is that possible? how is a beta talent that never made it to live dealing damage in the live version of the gmae?

[lament stump]

feel like maybe no one actually played it ?

[tepid lichen]

yikers

[fickle lotus]

I wonder if this will increase the damage to flensing knives now

[balmy condor]

we get a buff and y'all yapping about flensing knives

[undone flame]

But knives

[tepid lichen]

yapping about the state of the game being a universal mess of bugs like never before idk

[lament stump]

i think community just want the things to do what they say they do

[tepid lichen]

every class half the hero talents didn't function, some still don't. tier sets don't work. like ? lol

[storm hedge]

Yeah and it's a big DPS increase right? That 10k pop at the start of the fight and literally never after...

[tranquil cobalt]

Any idea of how big of a buff it is?

[balmy condor]

I'd tell you to read the pins

[indigo mulch]

Pins

[tepid lichen]

its 1-3% of my overall in some keys/fights

thats a good damage buff for a beta talent that shouldn't be in the game

[indigo mulch]

Why do people not bother reading the damn pins even? lol

I mean its a big red circle on there. Just click it

[tranquil cobalt]

My bad

[undone flame]

Um how do you read pins on phone xd

[balmy condor]

one more person not reading the pins and we probably go into a slow mode tbh

[earnest timber]

LOL Love watching people just not check pins first before asking questions.

ACTUAL chimps

[tranquil cobalt]

Exactly my problem I'm in my phone ahah either way my mistake

[waxen oyster]

aint no way you’re getting 3% flensing on overall

[maiden anchor]

jesus dude

[timid sonnet]

4% buff? thats really nothing given the ST sims

meh

[undone flame]

I found it its called somthing else for me xd

[storm hedge]

Oh damn

[undone flame]

Thanks

[dull pulsar]

pin this

[undone flame]

Lol

[grand trail]

hello assa mains

[lament stump]

the ppl who need it wont see it that way

[grand trail]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[indigo mulch]

Don't bother, if you put it in pins they wont be able to find it!

[lament stump]

/sarcasm or am i slow

[dull pulsar]

sarcasm haha

[normal mist]

We get nerfed:

• OMG BLIZZARD WTF?????? STOPPP
  We get buffed (fixed?)
• Lol ... 4% is shit.

[restive falcon]

1.5% dps loss from caustic, not as bad as i expected it to be

[balmy condor]

you cannot be this dense right

[timid vale]

i wish they announced the actual values of the chance to proc 2p

[orchid wind]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-it's-so-over-its-over-its-so-over-we're-back-gif-16588749771587271250

[fallow canopy]

outlaw main amirite ||jk||

[lament stump]

not knowing what caustic does

[balmy condor]

4% buff here takes us to ret

we literally jump over like

[timid sonnet]

why do you choose to insult now? And where do the ret buffs take the ret?

[balmy condor]

40% of the specs in the game

[timid sonnet]

they got buffed as well you know

[slim pebble]

No more FOTM rolling

[tender bay]

So for all other fights then silken we go assa over sub ?

[gleaming spire]

lets go

[tepid lichen]

3% on boss 1.5-2% overall usually

[lament stump]

HIS POINT WASNT ABOUT RET PALLY ITS ABOUT HOW HUGE 4% ACTUALLY IS MANN

[undone flame]

Wait so befor this change was the 2p only working on the weapon posions?

[grand trail]

whispyr, im looking at assa trinket sims, is the queen mandate really that down?

[fickle lotus]

yeah

[balmy condor]

cause I'm sick of people like you showing up dooming over a buff with zero understanding of what it actually means

cause peanut brain says 4% small number

[timid sonnet]

it is a small number

[waxen oyster]

Can we just

[timid sonnet]

cope more

[waxen oyster]

lock m+ players

in a zoo enclosure

[lament stump]

this is bannable right ???

[frigid shuttle]

Jesus lol

[tepid lichen]

damn first the greens were having a war in sub chat earlier now this

[lament stump]

holy fk timeout at least or something

thats so crazy

[tepid lichen]

rogue community falling apart

[maiden anchor]

damn, patch notes make people angry

[tender bay]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-burning-hell-gif-4808980

[balmy condor]

its right under our on-use trinkets

[hallow pelican]

there will be a time in about 5 weeks, that you'll understand how simple minded your position is. We won't see you back here then

[balmy condor]

looks good to me idk

[waxen oyster]

yeah that tracks

[fickle lotus]

bloodmallet

[grand trail]

i was looking at sims in !!fuu

[waxen oyster]

I mean its correct

[tawny wren]

Assassination is nerf for next patch ?? 😦

[indigo mulch]

How is the rogue community falling apart? Most of the time we talk about feet here. Only when something happens you disturb our feet enjoyment sessions. 😦

[timid vale]

these changes fuck, if you cant see that, prob reroll bm hunter

[balmy condor]

no clue

[lament stump]

thats the problem though

[tepid lichen]

last key is kinda sucked tho idk

[coral ibex]

so true someone post xalatoes

[normal mist]

people mad that this buff is bad

[balmy condor]

I don't look at spreadsheet

I just open bloodmallet

[lament stump]

anything gets changed and the spec chat is in shambles without reading

[grand trail]

alright

[waxen oyster]

still good for a talent that shouldnt exist

[tepid lichen]

ofc

[raven egret]

its just a bit weird they take away Caustic to put the buffs in the tier set but eh, whatevere works!

[slim pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-read-gif-22252869

[balmy condor]

more elegant than anything I came up with tbh

[lament stump]

we should ban meta statements like the one i just made because half of the chat is also just talking abt ppl losing their minds

[fickle lotus]

honestly i thought people were taking longer cloak because it helped them live the enrage on kyveza for longer during RWF 😭

[brave blaze]

People mad about a buff?? Don’t get it??

[balmy condor]

they did

[raven egret]

Fair point, I'm definitely happy and it will likely feel very good to play with

[waxen oyster]

caustic is grossly op

[indigo mulch]

Yes very bad buff. Bad blizzard for buffing the spec i'm playing. Shame on you blizzard.

[balmy condor]

they took longer cloak on ky'veza for intermissions

flensing knives was just bonus

[alpine garden]

Can you equip two regicides?

[balmy condor]

ye

[fickle lotus]

yeah i wasn't aware of it at the time I was just thinking oh shit that's actually big brain lmao

[final silo]

Why is Treacherous Transmitter so low for 5 targets on bloodmallet?

[hallow pelican]

I hope so ... those are my weapons

[waxen oyster]

i think pvpers take it because capping a node takes 6 seconds and cloak lasts 7 with talent

[lament stump]

transmitter is a sub technique that i refuse to touch leave it to the shadow diddlers

[fallow canopy]

woah woah don't talk like that to the homies

[fickle lotus]

don't hunters now just sit in camo next to the flag anyway to prevent stealth capping

[fallow canopy]

only insult ol mains please

[waxen oyster]

if its a hunter yeah

[balmy condor]

trinket sucks in aoe, haste isn't great, cooldown doesn't line up so you gotta hold it, really hard to do the mini-game

[waxen oyster]

casters cant stop you now unless they melee you

[uneven plume]

How bad of a nerf is this for sin, both aoe and st

[keen mantle]

im here to tell you i love you all

[fallow canopy]

pins 😄

[uneven plume]

ST is already trash so I hope it isn’t too bad

[fickle lotus]

20% nerf to both aoe and st

[keen mantle]

and have a good day

[raven egret]

so many people out there swearing by transmitter as if it saved their life

[keen mantle]

we will travel to another damage dimension after this buff

[lament stump]

upload more sub keys

[hallow pelican]

Pins. its not a nerf ... its a buff. a significant one

[waxen oyster]

they see big number at start of pull

[timid sonnet]

"significant"

[waxen oyster]

quells monkey brain

[keen mantle]

sub is by default doing 25% less dmg by assa and now that assa is buffed im going to play sub? no way

[wise mist]

hotfix just came out, they deleted sin

[timid sonnet]

huh

[lament stump]

for the culture

do it for the culture

[timid sonnet]

how is sub doing 25% less damage

[slim pebble]

Why are people still dooming

[keen mantle]

im a mad tryharder bro , i just play whats best

[uneven plume]

😂😂😂

[keen mantle]

not a casualaddict or sth

[raven egret]

tsk, if it said FUnNEL maybe I'd understand!

[waxen oyster]

sub does healer dam

outside cds

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/lowlife-forms-arzach-provocative-gif-5534086516169010316

[normal mist]

idk, chat needs to chill

[lament stump]

i love assass but i need to see the funny sub players keep their spec alive in keys

it gives me hope

[dapper cradle]

Will we need to play outlaw after these sin nerfs?

Feelsbadman

[lament stump]

that someday it will be worth learning sub

[crisp pine]

yes.

[bronze pike]

dont go into outlaw

[balmy condor]

!slow 60

[crisp pine]

If you play sin after these changes

blizzard will ban you

[bronze pike]

[timid sonnet]

Yes, just add a footlong piece to your dagger to convert it into a sword, immediately

[normal mist]

Is it that bad?

[fast mural]

Anyone know How much Overall % Buff and % ST ?

[kindred ingot]

so the next fix is nerfed?

[uneven plume]

Wait, these changes don’t even look like nerfs

[storm hedge]

Let's go we are in slow mode. You guys keep talking about nerfs and not reading pins made whispyr mad

[waxen oyster]

I like how spatter is basically flurry but uncapped

[balmy condor]

!slow 120

[tacit pollen]

impossible to know because they were vague with the description of the buff

[raven egret]

Oh no, we are gated! I can feel my 2 minutes coming!

[kind forge]

Please just read - for the love of our all sanity

[timid sonnet]

I think people just read the first line and come to Discord to doom immediately, rest of the lines cannot be interpreted as nerfs -- doom with quality, about the numbers people

[dapper cradle]

Will the .5 changes offset the upcoming nerf?

[balmy condor]

HELLO THESE CHANGES ARE BUFFS PLEASE READ THE PINS DO NOT BE STUPID THANK YOU SORRY FOR SLOW MODE

[lament stump]

we need this chat to have its own graphic design background instead of discord gray and it should just be " check the pinned " repeatedly

[cobalt sphinx]

too many people excited to learn about the impact of the changes, i must control the situation and shut it down

[desert vault]

!fuu

[runic hinge]

Using my two minutes to hope the fotm rerollers go to outlaw cause they see buffs over there

[soft shale]

big tier set buffs

[storm hedge]

Yeah buddy, read pins, they are buffs to ST overall unchanged for aoe. Didn't even have to read the pins for that tbh just the blue post

[fallow canopy]

thank you king, the real question is how slow can we go

[naive crane]

Does wax in mh > whetstone?

[kindred ingot]

how much it buffs?

[balmy condor]

probably not

[novel star]

God i cant believe they actually did it the st buff finally

[waxen oyster]

and people wonder why it got nerfed

[rugged oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/buh-b-u-h-cat-silly-кот-gif-2242355352608793340

[balmy condor]

HELLO THESE CHANGES ARE BUFFS PLEASE READ THE PINS DO NOT BE STUPID THANK YOU SORRY FOR SLOW MODE (this message will repeat until brainrot subsides)

[uneven plume]

I don’t read, I doom

[fathom cove]

the 1.5% figure for CS is without the ST buffs right? it's 1.5% less compared to now?

[grand trail]

we like repeat

[raven egret]

My brain just rotted from being unable to type for 2 minutes, but now I will unleash all my anger in more words! in 2 minutes

[crisp pine]

I'll never understand why rogues get mad over a rogue spec getting buffed
do people unironically one trick one singular spec in this game?

[dapper cradle]

Is this confirmed? Someone said they were nerfs?

[vale lantern]

up to 24 grims without even seeing skardyns drop for anyone 😦

[balmy condor]

yes

[ember mural]

[sullen hearth]

Brain rot cannot be cured

[fast mural]

I think ST buffs gonna be about 5-9%

[hallow pelican]

its a shame you'll disappear like a fart in the wind when .05 hits so we won't be able to say I told you so

[cobalt sphinx]

-120 seconds

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

that's really high

[timid sonnet]

got it on 2nd run on rogue, 1st run on enh 😛

@hallow pelican why would I disappear?

[balmy condor]

and we can keep going I don't mind

[tough widget]

guys

[balmy condor]

I think slow mode can go up to 9 hours?

[novel star]

how could you possibly read the patch notes and think it’s a nerf? are people really this fucking stupid wtf i came in here to celebrate

[lament stump]

lets all agree to end our messages with for the next 2 days

[fickle lotus]

because their education system failed them

[kind forge]

see you in 2 minutes

[crisp pine]

They did the nerf spatter buff other shit I was hoping they would do

[hallow pelican]

theres some smoothbrains workin overtime on it

[fast mural]

in 29 Mins Dung the Uptime of Vile Tincture right now is about 23 mins, And they buff it. Dunno i think it's huge

[vestal wren]

If you check the pins:

[fallow canopy]

I was gonna reply with more angry messages but my brain is too far gone

[vestal wren]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-cute-petting-pokemon-gif-23277346

[balmy condor]

HELLO THESE CHANGES ARE BUFFS PLEASE READ THE PINS DO NOT BE STUPID THANK YOU SORRY FOR SLOW MODE (this message will repeat until brainrot subsides)

[storm hedge]

I wasn't here for a few days a noticed wax got fixed for high Ilvl weapons. Any other fixes to wax since then or we don't know anything.

[runic hinge]

I read the pins. Fuu please pet me

[raven egret]

I will use my 2 min to approve this gif and how adorable it is.

[abstract parrot]

is this ptr changes??? or when does this canges apply?

[bronze pike]

They’re mad cause sim got st buffs and they’re buffs are “not big”

[balmy condor]

reset

[timid sonnet]

I am sorry for not being incredibly thrilled about being buffed to middle of the pack (if that - considering specs currently occupying that space are buffed as well - and specs like BM hunter and ret at that which requires no thought to do what will end up being more dps)

[slim pebble]

Our class isn’t really even that hard

[fickle lotus]

who gives a fuck lol

[frigid shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[brisk vapor]

I think its suspect to nerf an evergreen talent in favor of a seasonal set bonus buff, however net positive at the time.

[fast mural]

Foss he means that they don"t have to even do rotation

[balmy condor]

tuning happens multiple times every patch, so this is kind of a moot point at the end of the day

[rugged oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

[lament stump]

THEYLL JUST BUFF SOMETHING ELSE LATER IF IT GETS THAT BAD WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUTTT T AM I INSANE

[balmy condor]

if we're strong next patch it'll get nerfed, if we're weak it'll get buffed

[balmy condor]

very based, very demure, so intelligent

[fleet pagoda]

i didn't even realize our two-piece wasn't working as intended more envenom damage comin' up

[formal badge]

I have a luxury problem regarding trinkets. I got Transmitter, Ara, Contract, Mark all in 626 simming always wants me to pick Trans + Contract no matter the duration and amount of mobs

[waxen oyster]

Bro somehow isnt talking about arcane mage or frost dk

[balmy condor]

seems reasonable

[frigid shuttle]

This reminds me of what Asmongold said about the state of Warrior like years ago, that if he saw he was top DPS he just get depressed knowing it was going to be nerfed next patch lol

[timid sonnet]

we are buffed to where BM & ret is, those 2 are up at the peak of the mountain 😛

[runic hinge]

Go play ret or bm then lol. If all you care about is numbers and ease of play

[kind forge]

[formal badge]

Would you also pick the combination for M+ tho Whispyr ?

[balmy condor]

yeh except that's not how the game works, but tuning in general is pretty good recently

[raven egret]

We gonna eat good on Tuesday, thats what we needed right now!

[floral vale]

With transmitter do we just just hold it for DM every time?

[uneven plume]

I’m just happy I can contribute to two phasing mists first boss in a 12 now

[untold snow]

watch them remove flensing knives on patch day

[balmy condor]

yep sounds good to me, I probably wouldn't play transmitter though that thing is shit, so I would probably play like ara+contract just to avoid it

[lament stump]

transmitter mini game not worth we know y

[balmy condor]

yes

[kind forge]

[fast mural]

Is spyglass 639 any good?

[formal badge]

No on use seems bit fishy no ?

[storm hedge]

The only reason I don't like transmitter is I just sometimes forget to use it. It's not bad at all in raid but in m+ I sometimes press CDs and forget about trinket. The mini game is much simpler than you guys made it seem

[spice surge]

It was used by the world first raiders. its just annoying to use and its about the same as skardyn, which isnt annoying to use

[spice spire]

Fuck I’m trapped in slow mode. Reminder that CT ST in 9.2 was the best iteration of rogue.

[lament stump]

subs use it because they need too thts the difference

[crisp pine]

Hell yea brother

[balmy condor]

yes

[whole sand]

i stop playing rogue for 1 week because my raid needs a healer
i go holy pal
i get shot

[balmy condor]

overall damage is similar, you probably just lose burst

[fickle lotus]

banned from the server now gg

[fallow canopy]

why would you say something so controversial and yet so brave

[spice surge]

Its the opposite, you gain burst with transmitter over skardyn, since the on-use is stronger and the passive stat is weaker

[silk bane]

theres a sin slow mode when spec got a big boi single target buff? too many otulaw -> sin rerollers hmmmmmmm

[floral vale]

The mini game isn’t too bad now. It was way worse on beta so maybe I’ve jusr been conditioned

[soft surge]

DID WE GETTA BUFF OR A NERF LADS

[balmy condor]

convo is double passive vs on-use/passive

[spice surge]

Oh mb

[half tartan]

are you guys using leech or avoidance enchants?

[runic hinge]

Based as fuck dawg

[shut garnet]

is bubbling wax actually better to use in either st or keys?

[formal badge]

I prolly stick with contract + mark

[balmy condor]

no

[ornate dawn]

check the pin emoji crew checking in

[balmy condor]

ur my favorite crew

[lament stump]

im not saying its hard im saying would you rather press a button or press abutton AND move to a spot, sub uses it because they have too, thats all im saying

[storm hedge]

Imo slow mode can be turned off now can't it?

[still steppe]

i mean i'll take all the dmg i can get

[balmy condor]

no :)

[spice spire]

Can’t wait for this whispyrrogue video on http://www.youtube.com

[novel star]

i play the game for fun and assassination is fun and assassination getting more numbers is fun ! why are you people so strange

[blazing jewel]

need to watch it in .25 speed

[grave trail]

i dont have to play sub now? praise the lord

[raven egret]

You.. never had to! See you in 2 minutes!

[kind forge]

See you in 2

[soft surge]

tTHIS IS OMEGA GIGA. ST IN M+ WAS ASS NOW WE GOOD?

[lament stump]

i cant think of a reason why you were playing sub before tbh other than self hatred

[storm hedge]

Why do they have to use it? Cause of the 1.5 min cd making it too good for them? Talking about transmitter on sub

[balmy condor]

yeah

sub is a 1.5 min cd spec

so 1.5 min transmitter is insane

[timid sonnet]

In essence yes - but while this system of incremental class balance is a lot better than what it was a couple expansions before where you got stuck with what you had at the beginning - it ends up being a drip feed of hopium, I got buffed 3% now, maybe 2 weeks later I will get another 3% 😮

[spice spire]

Reminder that inflight wifi is a scam

[fresh kelp]

brother has not entered a mythic plus dungeon this season

[fickle lotus]

i believe you said that this buff puts us above ret in dps, is that for mythic sikran dmg or the all bosses chart?

[crisp pine]

How much of a buff do you think Blizzard should've given us?

[balmy condor]

sikran

[soft surge]

we need hard ST sustained dmg buff, even in 3 minute m+ boss fights. if this is what we getting we are good

[amber blaze]

we are alive boys

[waxen oyster]

how often are you getting 3min boss fights

[opaque sigil]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[lament stump]

this guys arguments are the worst man, why do u need to be the best spec in game, this is the easiest rogue spec imo if anything go advocate for better sub rogue or something, we get good changes that trend in a good direction why would we be unhappy, your acting like were a super hard spec that should be giving the most payoff all the time

[still steppe]

20% aura buff + dots tick for 500% more dmg or its a brick class i wanna put 1 rupture up and be top dps and not press any other buttons

[balmy condor]

you're so real for that

[ornate dawn]

I wish I could turn my eyes off looking at some of the comments when patch notes are released

[crisp pine]

Just remove all buttons and buff FoK by a billion % tbh

[soft surge]

keys above 11 or so

[timid sonnet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[balmy condor]

has nothing to do with your garbage arguments

but that artwork is sick as fuck

[lament stump]

you literally complained about jumping over 12 other specs what could you possibly be advocating for if not being a top tier spec

[still steppe]

guys lets all calm down and appreciate that my r1 on sikran got locked in

[grand trail]

pog

[waxen oyster]

most of you mfs not doing keys that high

[novel star]

gz man

[uneven plume]

Wdym. We do whysper level keys

[crisp pine]

That's a nice artwork, totally distracts from the fact that you didn't actually answer my question

[spice spire]

Counterpoint: I’m doing your pops that high (you don’t deserve this)

[hallow fox]

I didnt time a +6 today these issues are important to me

[runic hinge]

I’m already topping my raid I need to beat all of them into the dust

[ornate dawn]

Are you doing follower raids

[raven trench]

yoo goys in m+ keys are u lacking of energy or not ??

[lament stump]

never that

[balmy condor]

in single target yes, in aoe no

[fickle lotus]

why don't i see it on warcraft logs? do they not update that quickly 😮

[still steppe]

my guild private logs sadly

[spice spire]

Could have sworn you were a bottom.

[fickle lotus]

i cry for you 😢

[still steppe]

tough crowd

[sterile crest]

If you are lacking energy in aoe you likely aren’t spreading rupture properly, but definitely lacking in ST in keys that’s normal

[soft surge]

do i know you, are you the donny from barth

[balmy condor]

OCE PLAYER IDENTIFIED LOAD THE CANNONS

[runic hinge]

Only for you

[still steppe]

[ornate dawn]

Orbital barrage locked and loaded

[raven trench]

i mean in ST

[lament stump]

make sure to check your ground harness before leaving your house

[runic hinge]

Yes and that tank ele sham is hard to beat

[plush isle]

will they buff caustic spatter after the t set changes next content, seems rather short sighted ?

[ornate dawn]

Too real

[balmy condor]

would assume that they will buff whatever needs buffing in order to balance the game :)

[waxen oyster]

no spatter deserves to be in the dirt

[soft surge]

who cares spatter is lame

[runic hinge]

Make bleeds do damage again

[balmy condor]

but caustic frankly could've gone to like 30% and still been really good

[ornate dawn]

Get outta here with rational thoughts and logic

[stable flint]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[waxen oyster]

i remember when our dots did dam and not just an agi buff for spatter

[soft surge]

@still steppe are you or not lol

[still steppe]

nah im from frostmourne

[feral crag]

Will outlaw be competitive in keys with buffs now? Vs assa.

[runic hinge]

Go ask them

[timid sonnet]

Is caustic part really end up being a nerf given the increase in poison damage though?

[soft surge]

same, but i knew a donny rogue on barth who would always gank in bfa @still steppe

[fickle lotus]

If you have to ask then this buff won't change what you do or don't play

[still steppe]

i started in shadowlands so cant be me

[ornate dawn]

We dont talk to the Outlaws they are too busy eating glue

[raven trench]

what is ur avg overall dmg in m+

[novel star]

not by much

[still steppe]

highly depends on if the tanks fucking lets me restealth or not

[undone summit]

i will trade my bloodbound for your sikran

[midnight mist]

spatter should be 15%

[fast mural]

i did 1.92M is +12 Dawn

[novel star]

okay buddy let’s get you back to the outlaw channel now

[royal lantern]

bladeflury should be 90%

[timid vale]

slowmode to 9 hours

[midnight mist]

yes thank you, at least one person not delusional here

[still steppe]

they should cap blade flurry at 3 targets tbh

[balmy condor]

rare zac agree

[sonic zinc]

if u ever get to the case where u have darkest night, but ur target has deathstalkers mark on it, do u still just finish at max cp since it doesnt look like u consume marks until then?

[royal lantern]

WHY DO THEY NERF US????????????

[novel star]

yes

[balmy condor]

yes

[inner hornet]

so do these changes effect my legacy

[feral mason]

how do these assa nerfs affect lebrons legacy

[inner hornet]

nerfs??

[feral mason]

joke

[novel star]

well you see the only % number on the page went from a big one to a smaller one so clearly we got nerfed right

[balmy condor]

Really should be “how do these assa nerf” cause there’s is 1 line of nerf singular

[spice spire]

Good bait good bait

[covert sedge]

Lebron caught rerolling outlaw after misinterpreting patch notes

[inner hornet]

Yes

[strange python]

@balmy condor is new class tuning little buff?

[feral mason]

lebron would reroll frostdk honestly, kd is an aug player for sure

[blazing jewel]

@midnight mist thank you for the sin nerfs im very proud of you

[crisp pine]

You guys maining lebron in multiversus?

[balmy condor]

@strange python is pin reading little hard?

[next parcel]

doesnt it say in the patch notes that theyre intending for it to be a buff

[timid sonnet]

road to hell is paved with good intentions

[balmy condor]

We don’t read English

[royal lantern]

nah, buff bleeds, so that multi dotting actually does dmg and not just resources and nothing else

spatter+overtuned CT beeing 80% of our aoe dmg is just stupid

[raven egret]

Outlaw range should be 0.5y

[next parcel]

[balmy condor]

We read big number small number bad

[novel star]

Yes, wow players are just stunningly braindead

[still steppe]

holy now i know the shit u have to deal with on a daily basis condolences where do we send financial help for your mental health

[next parcel]

[rotund jackal]

do we have a trinket ranking?

[royal lantern]

yes, and thats good, but its just not great that our bleeds do just almost nothing at all rn

like, they should adjust the dmg so that its more even bettwen spatter and bleeds

[fast mural]

I still don't understand they kinda buffed us 1% ?: 😛

[novel star]

[fickle lotus]

Only class with a dev note on the patch notes because they already know we can't read/do math 🙂

[rotund jackal]

Not in the pins

[soft surge]

i dont think there will be an overall loss in m+ if the tier set buff will help our st

[runic hinge]

Can you type the pins in German too and also whatever language I speak after 14 dollaritas at Applebees

[novel star]

a % estimation is literally is in the pins man wdym (nvm wrong message)

[next parcel]

go to wowhead guide

[timid sonnet]

there is bloodmallet for that

[still steppe]

thats why we have whispyr do it for us and when he pins it people still come here without reading pins and say its a nerf cant satisfy anyone

[soft surge]

hybrid build in high keys sucks as in ST

[balmy condor]

This is my therapy atm gonna take my anger out on a bowling ball with some sandpaper

[crisp pine]

There won't be a bowling ball left at the end of the night

[timid sonnet]

Thats sin in general

[balmy condor]

Theres a lot of bowling ball, I run out of sandpaper first

[still steppe]

oh yeah i was polishing a ball as well but i dont think its appropriate to send the image here

[limber lion]

Do you also have to oil the ball to get it shiny or how does that work?

[novel star]

whispyr r you a bowler or do you just work there

[ornate dawn]

Whens the Gopro bowling stream

[fickle lotus]

he just works there iirc

[crisp pine]

Whispyrs a baller actually

[royal lantern]

mate, this is tame rn

you dont wanna see the brainrot when there is actually a nerf

suddenly you have 200000 people that never typed before telling you how assa is dead now

[bitter saddle]

Are you making it smaller with the sandpaper?

[fickle lotus]

he's polishing it

[flint siren]

Whispyr bowling ball sanding manifesto pin inc

[placid adder]

i thought that was OL channel

[still steppe]

surely with their years of experience they know that if your class is that good / bad its due for a nerf / buff soon

[bitter saddle]

So it rolls better after polishing?

[rancid blaze]

how would i sim bubbling wax and another weapon enhancement?

[balmy condor]

The cover of the ball is friction, so you can change the cover by sanding it down/polishing is, polish = shiny = less friction, ball goes down the lane further before hooking, sanding = less grit = dull = rough = more friction = earlier hook

So this is a friends ball, I’m gonna reset it back to factory finish for him cause it’s a bit beat up

So uh

Like 1500, polish

[royal lantern]

MOST regulars do

you just get a wave of "joined in (2months ago)" people going crazy

[midnight atlas]

man is min maxing bowling

[flint tinsel]

so guys, after the nerf we all swap outlaw right? #trollpost #yeahireadthelinesabove

[royal lantern]

5min singletarget bowling sims to compare the shoes

[balmy condor]

That’s what happens when you have a serious hobby for nearly 20 years I guess

[runic hinge]

Channel has been very fotm lately.

[raven egret]

Your name is yellow, thats sus

[timid sonnet]

bis shoes require you to jump three times

[still steppe]

yeah i guess @balmy condor just delete the sin discussion spec is dead anyway

[midnight atlas]

i just throw whatever balls there are at the bowling place

[blazing jewel]

yea you fotm player

[bitter saddle]

This is the way

[limber lion]

He hit a 300 recently. He's already won

[balmy condor]

I got a second one the other week

[spice spire]

Hell yeah king

Proud of you

[limber lion]

Very interesting. Do the pros prefer a polished ball because I usually see them rocking with a very shiny ball. Is a grittier ball better for a noob?

[runic hinge]

I was fotm in df now im a regular

Holy slow mode over

[balmy condor]

Well, you change balls/surface all the time as a way to adjust

[runic hinge]

Good morning I love you all

[still steppe]

yeah i wanted to play fdk this tier but we needed the 3% dr

[swift jacinth]

hey yall new here trying to figure out how to improve logs. !log is the way to do it yeah?

[limber lion]

Ah so it's just something that you minmax on the way I see

[still steppe]

Good morning

[limber lion]

Good to know, I'll just blame my ball next time I go bowling and the ball doesn't hook

[novel star]

we don’t have that command, just link it and ask people to review for u

[balmy condor]

Pro’s sometimes have like multiple copies of the same ball drilled differently, surfaced differently

[runic hinge]

I could never be told what to do. That’s why I play assa rogue and nothing else now

[limber lion]

Damn

[novel star]

the people in question being makeitquake most of the time

[ornate dawn]

Just get a really big ball and knock down all the pins are they stupid /s

[spice spire]

Bro wtf

I’m gonna change my name

[fickle lotus]

people posting logs is great because it just strokes my already massive ego

[novel star]

??

[limber lion]

Bro this is like the first time in years you're back to your normal name

Not again

[balmy condor]

Egg

[novel star]

[tropic comet]

fatebound or trickster outlaw rogue for m+ ?

[limber lion]

Wtf

[novel star]

sir this is assassination

[ornate dawn]

Wrong section my dude

[still steppe]

tf outlaw player get him out

[spice spire]

?

[limber lion]

This look like an outlaw channel to you?

[tropic comet]

wrong ,sorry

[still steppe]

GET HIM OUT

[spice spire]

It’s already done

[pure moth]

Says the yellow

[limber lion]

Gg

[blazing jewel]

🥚

[still steppe]

i just put outlaw tag so i can stand out in here

[novel star]

no worries

[still steppe]

[storm forum]

Like half the people who post here are yellow names?

[bitter saddle]

Im yellow af

[river horizon]

Quick question, if we have 2 sin rogue in M+, does the rogue (with the bigger damage/ilvl) "eat" the sudden demise of the other one ? Because in my key, the second rogue had 50M from it and I only had 8M

[bitter saddle]

But I don’t know what that means

[fickle lotus]

yes

[ornate dawn]

The yellows want to bask in the sophistication of assassination

[bitter saddle]

Only know that rogue is yellow

[still steppe]

im asian so i guess so am i

[swift jacinth]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jnJv6ZRax9pMfAFT#fight=6&type=damage-done

it looks like im not casting envenom enough times + need R3 enchants? but would appreciate any other input. thanks in advance

[hearty reef]

slow mode?

[midnight mist]

slow spec

slow mode

[limber lion]

Opener is entirely wrong

Why are yoy using vanish as your first gcd

[ornate dawn]

Probably didnt help you were in africa when the boss was pulled and you had to sprint and vanish

he was in africa

[limber lion]

Why are you not pressing slice immediately

[oblique garnet]

took me 43 runs 😄

[limber lion]

So many very clear issues

[swift jacinth]

oh true yeah that wasnt a great start haha

[limber lion]

Would recommend doing a proper pull where you think everything went well

[hollow talon]

wtf we've been NERFED

[still steppe]

ive seen a guildie get a mythic skardyns in vault twice in 2 weeks

[limber lion]

So we can tell you ehat you can actually improve on

[grave trail]

vanish first gcd? am i missing something

[hollow talon]

nvm

[still steppe]

hell yeah we have

[limber lion]

Not the super obvious stuff which you can figure out anyways

[winged gust]

damn i stopped counting, its been forever

[swift jacinth]

ill find a better one my bad

[limber lion]

All good

[raven egret]

Rupture and Garrote uptime on the second boss are pretty damn low as well

[grave trail]

hes playing the .5 patch

[still steppe]

already prepping for the .5 patch ahead of his time

[fickle lotus]

how are you "seeing" their rotation like that? like how do you usually view those logs

[still steppe]

go to Cast > Timelines

[fickle lotus]

thank you!

[limber lion]

Yup

[spice spire]

Why did you not run spatter here

[ornate dawn]

Im not seeing a DPS potion used or am I blind

[spice spire]

Ur not blind

[limber lion]

Honestly there is no reason not to run spatter on every boss

[still steppe]

u guys are ruthless he's new give him a break

[hollow talon]

is it time to reroll fire maje

[limber lion]

Like sure IB better on Sikran or whatever

But it's not that much

[raven egret]

I mean, Sikran and Ky'Veza would like a word

[limber lion]

Too slow budd

[half tartan]

which class seems like it got the biggest uppies this tuning?

[fickle lotus]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[still steppe]

SP

[raven egret]

I try my best ok!!

[maiden gust]

why

[old obsidian]

PLZ PEOPLE GO THERE

[swift jacinth]

it didnt feel like we were getting all the adds together well enough

and ty for the dps potion - didnt realize that

[limber lion]

But yeah, running IB on 1 or 2 bosses and not running spatter on everything else is giga troll.

[spice spire]

Even just

[limber lion]

But it's a 2t fight

[spice spire]

The other boss

Is pretty good

[limber lion]

Stop spamming

@balmy condor

Requesting help

Ok he deleted one already

[fickle lotus]

HIGHLY recommend that you read any of those guides and practice your opener 20x times then continue on your rotation for a second deathmark to really get a good feel for things
after that you should follow what people are using for talents via warcraft logs or the per boss section some of those guides have

[elder bolt]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[zinc frost]

Tuning good, surprised it was only 5 for caustic and not more.

[limber lion]

Just run the spatter build on every boss

Start mixing up talents when everything else is fixed

[still steppe]

[runic hinge]

I parsed better with spatter on sikran than I did with IB

[limber lion]

Yup

[still steppe]

[swift jacinth]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/M24vndpztR3YhHCK#fight=7&type=damage-done&source=22

i think this ones has the better opener - forgot that pull i was too far away. but ill go over the guide again

[still steppe]

what secret tech is this

[swift jacinth]

appreciate it

[still steppe]

share it stop gatekeeping

[limber lion]

A proc or 2 and you outdps

[fickle lotus]

rng

[runic hinge]

Just played better and had better rng

[limber lion]

IB is not that big

[runic hinge]

And it’s like 1.5% difference

[sharp lily]

I bet you spattered your friends

[still steppe]

^

[runic hinge]

I try

[still steppe]

pls let me dot up my hunters for agi buff

[fickle lotus]

1.5% is actually pretty big 😭

[limber lion]

I wish IB tuning was a bit more tight so it would be worth on 1-2T and not just full ST

But it is what it is

[slim pebble]

Gonna go tell my wife this

[runic hinge]

Not when I can play worse than 1.5%

[misty bough]

Im trying to check the sim when it uses trinket but it doesnt seem to show(?)

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6Dfbn2QiPXQsmo5jW7wvbC

[limber lion]

8s

[spice surge]

It does show, its "use items"

At 8s

[limber lion]

2:13

Took me 5 seconds to find it on my phone

[misty bough]

So the use items is the trinket

[limber lion]

Yep

What else would it be?

[misty bough]

Well, it would be nuke pot but thats already listed so you're right

Id consider a consumeable more of an item than a trinket

[waxen oyster]

@glacial crypt https://x.com/GuildHonolulu/status/1842256227239076178

Honolulu (@GuildHonolulu) on X

If your ranged player ever starts whining about Nexus Princess Kyveza, just send them this clip

Twitter · Oct 4, 2024, 5:31 PM

[limber lion]

You can even see the buff when it uses the item

[waxen oyster]

nice guild clip

[fickle lotus]

sprayer toy

[sturdy crater]

Is mastery flask better than alchemical chaos flask?

i always use mastery flask, but just curious if i should switch

[fickle lotus]

no

[celest helm]

Guides are your friend

[limber lion]

Alchemical Chaos bia

Big

[fickle lotus]

when alchemical picks crit when i open on a huge pack

[grave trail]

you could've literally just told him prob take you the same time

but yes chaos is

[tall atlas]

is there an M+ trinket tier list

[subtle cipher]

!up

[fickle lotus]

bloodmallet

[tall atlas]

oye ty

[fickle lotus]

[balmy condor]

well

bloodmallet is single target/cleave/aoe

you gotta use brain to apply that data

but yeh bloodmallet

[silk bane]

whispyr

[glacial crypt]

thank you xd

[silk bane]

follow the blood requiring 2 ruptures, does it make it better on 2 targets?

[honest pelican]

did a +2 GB on my rogue for chance at a better trinket, oops mistake

[silk bane]

do u know what the difference was prior to this?

[honest pelican]

at least we finished it, but we were like...15 mins overtime

[balmy condor]

doubt

[silk bane]

was it that much worse?

[honest pelican]

and at least i got a skardyns grace, even if its champ track

[silk bane]

cuz thats a really big buff to ct in 2 target

[balmy condor]

yeh but we press fok on 3 and we press fok on 2 and we CT on 2

and it's way better on 3

so like just reasonably based on them both doing the same thing

[fickle lotus]

Would 2pc now affecting more things won't that increase the value of mastery or am I just too high rn

[silk bane]

i know, what im saying was this was dead on 2 targets before

now its not

[balmy condor]

I don't see how it could catch up

[silk bane]

because it needed 3 ruptures

now its getting flat out 32% crit damage and 15% crit chance on CT specifically in 2target that it didnt have before

[balmy condor]

does it not?

[silk bane]

nope

needed 3

now only needs 2 ruptures

so it was dead on 2 targets before

[balmy condor]

I mean okay

sure

still ass xdd

[silk bane]

kekw

silken court dreams shattered

[balmy condor]

fok crit rate is really strong turns out

can't imagine why

[silk bane]

who woulda guessed really

[balmy condor]

really one of lifes unknown mysteries

[silk bane]

sometimes i miss sealed fate in class tree

but it was evil

had to go'

[grim vigil]

guys why is only 1 buff of dawnthread lining showing in my buff bars?

i got on 2

[spice surge]

Drop below 80%

And heal back up

[novel star]

!lining

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[grim vigil]

ah

[celest helm]

more to do with treating the problem

[finite eagle]

Should I send my Treacherous Transmitter on CD or hold it and use it with Deathmarks? Both in M+ and in raid?

[untold snow]

hold for deathmark

[novel star]

[slate crown]

📌

[mint valve]

how bad is the caustic spatter nerf?

[crisp pine]

man

[fickle lotus]

blizzard personally comes to your house to beat you up when you take it

[celest helm]

[novel star]

Mmmfffhhhgh Nhhhh >_< Awaaaaa ngh

[safe rover]

Dead spec now unfortunately

[misty torrent]

Absolute noob question. Does it matter in which order I apply my poisons when I have dragon tempered blades?

[novel star]

Sorry

[fickle lotus]

delete this nephew

[misty torrent]

What happened to Spike? D:

[high sundial]

The M+ Hybrid build: suppose I want Lightweight Shiv for opening purposes. Which one to drop? Bone Spike?

[fickle lotus]

iron wire

[high sundial]

nah. ty for input though

[tight wedge]

I'm having a little bit of trouble undertanding what the difference is in these two builds in terms of what I should be doing in aoe. I'm on heroic queen right now and im trying to understand the damage what should I prioritize differently when im not in my M+ Build? i see that shiv deals aoe dam but is it a cooldown window is it instant dmg like what am I looking for here.

[zinc frost]

Why drop iron wire?

[novel star]

don’t spec full aoe for any fight in heroic

or any fight in mythic except ovinax

[cunning oxide]

omg they nerfed us by 10% wowowowowowowow

[novel star]

just go st build with spatter

[hallow pelican]

youre very bad at math

[fickle lotus]

because if you're wanting more damage that's what you would have to drop

[novel star]

shiv is also not an aoe cooldown on the right side build

[cunning oxide]

you're very bad at detecting trolls

[crisp pine]

I'm very bad

naughty even

[lofty nymph]

the class tuning, will this be a nerf?

[novel star]

pins

[hallow pelican]

/facepalm

[novel star]

also frankly

not only fucking pins

the god damn patch note you just read

told you it’s a buff

in the developer note

[upper wraith]

lol

[novel star]

[celest helm]

my fav part is that the notes themself literally say "Developers note this is intended to be an overall increase"

[normal mist]

people can't read tho

[royal lantern]

tbf

blizzard saying X and doing Y is not a rare thing, so its understandable that some are suspicous

[novel star]

they can read spatter number getting smaller and panic though that’s for sure

[silent wedge]

Intended, they Can still miss

[celest helm]

but if you read the changes its clear whats going to happen imo

[novel star]

^

[runic hinge]

Spatter needs more nerfs so they can make rupture do giga damage

[hallow pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-patrickstewart-startrek-ugh-gif-11526194861677962663

[drifting lance]

why does bloodmallet say transmitter is so bad on aoe compared to skydarns?

[runic hinge]

Buff internal bleeding too

[celest helm]

skardyn good

[drifting lance]

i have a 623 transmitter and a 606 skydryn lol, is the skydryn better in m+ still?

[celest helm]

sim

[novel star]

very likely not

you should sim yourself instead of just using one source

[drifting lance]

thought simming aoe was kinda rough

[novel star]

sim dslice

it’s not ideal but it’s fine

[celest helm]

try doing a patchwork with 8bosses for 40seconds, and then do 1 boss for 5min

compare the 2

[silent wedge]

Personnaly dislike when they write "chances" instead of an actual %age

[novel star]

can also sim 5t patchwerk or something but

yeh

[unkempt warren]

OMG THEY NERFD US

[novel star]

no they didn’t

[unkempt warren]

[novel star]

[celest helm]

@spice spire we are soback

[balmy condor]

very funny original joke haha number down pointlaugh

[novel star]

whispyr go polish your ball big boy

get out of here

[balmy condor]

already done a while ago

[crisp pine]

I wanna polish whispyrs ball :(

[novel star]

fuck

[balmy condor]

how long do you think that takes

[novel star]

you work so fast

[novel star]

no idea really

[silent wedge]

They buffed polishing?

[novel star]

i imagine it would depend on how fucked the ball is

[unkempt warren]

polishing leads to splatter nerf

[spice spire]

Hell yeah brother

I never left tho

[runic hinge]

Spatter*

[spice spire]

Cursed OTP

[raven egret]

We might still end up doing more spatter damage overall so, KEEP POLISHING

[ancient pendant]

ty whyspir for your guide (started playing ass rogue 2 weeks ago)! ❤️

[spice spire]

Buddy I’m about to spatter u like Jackson pollock

[celest helm]

i brought drinks for raid

[spice spire]

[novel star]

why not 420

[fickle lotus]

next time someone asks for mage food i'm giving them this

[spice spire]

One off funny number

[drifting lance]

do u guys use sikran in m+?

[spice spire]

Did you get pre thirsty?

[celest helm]

it was 420 but i drank one

[novel star]

is the joke that you bought 420 and then sipped one

yeah

that’s good

[spice spire]

I see

[novel star]

quality stuff

[novel star]

i use what the robot tells me to use

[drifting lance]

dead internet theory

everyone is a robot using robot info

[novel star]

yes!

[balmy condor]

np my cyrillic compadre

[cerulean walrus]

Robot man good

Napkin math bad

[upper wraith]

do we think assa will be the spec for raid now?

[cerulean walrus]

It was already

[waxen oyster]

I mean it kind of is?

[novel star]

already is

[ancient pendant]

and one question, why they are not nerfing FDK damage (single target and aoe)?

[silent wedge]

Already is

[ancient pendant]

it's pretty nuts

[celest helm]

FDK is dogwater in ST what lmao

frost is excelling because of the amount of cleave in the raid tier

[hearty reef]

whispyr why no frost dk nerfs but spater reduced?

[spice spire]

Why do we always have to compare things dudes

It’s a buff

Be happy

[hearty reef]

yellow ninja not allowed being good?

[novel star]

Why no joy

[silk bane]

spatter works off your single target

[royal lantern]

not really?

court is a sub fight if you care about spec swapping

[silk bane]

they buffed your single target

so spatter would do more

so they nerfed spatter to not over buff your already broken aoe

[royal lantern]

and court will be a BIG wall for most guilds

[silk bane]

math is mathing?

[hearty reef]

you're spoiling it

[balmy condor]

human spend many hours coding robot to tell people good info and help inform based on different situations

the people in question: lol everyone just using robot lmao dead internet

thank you for informing me that I waste my time giving you a good tool to use

equip whatever the fuck you want

:)

[ancient pendant]

ahahaha

[kind forge]

[silent wedge]

[runic hinge]

We’re going back to feel craft

[kind forge]

[ancient pendant]

Without a trace SIMs worse than ER, but in most cases double vanish can save your key + give you enough time to garrote all casters

sims won't show you real fight

[royal lantern]

people spending time maintaining a sim programm is not the shity "le redditor DeAd InTeRnEt ThEorY"

🙂

[runic hinge]

Okay dude who’s been here a week

[ancient pendant]

ty for giving this info whyspir ❤️

[drifting lance]

im only meming

no reason to spongebob me

[waxen oyster]

ok not this again

[royal lantern]

mate its hard to tell who is serious

[drifting lance]

plus you're not real

[royal lantern]

[novel star]

any clips of this happening

[drifting lance]

ill be real ill be back in like 15 to say OMG THEY NERFED ROGUE

[novel star]

or a rio link

[ancient pendant]

you won

sorry for typing brother

[novel star]

lmao

[silent wedge]

[ancient pendant]

ahaha

[fickle lotus]

?

[spice spire]

I’ll be ready to eat ur ass too

[novel star]

[drifting lance]

dont threaten me with a good time.

[spice spire]

It is not a threat

[novel star]

not me? :(

[spice spire]

It is a promise brethren

[spice spire]

Not today big dog

[novel star]

aw man…

[charred obsidian]

the heck is going on

[cerulean walrus]

Quake…

[novel star]

fuck my life bro

[runic hinge]

Quakes appetite is insatiable don’t let him fool you

[cerulean walrus]

How could you do me like this

[spice spire]

[cerulean walrus]

Cheating on me

[balmy condor]

what is "most cases"

[cerulean walrus]

Like this

[balmy condor]

cause double vanish is not saving your little vault +10

[spice spire]

Silence ohio man

[cerulean walrus]

WTF

[crisp pine]

The case where I press vanish to silence mobs and then I'm like
"holy I got another one"

Which does nothing

[novel star]

dox?wtf?

[ancient pendant]

i'm playing currently with NE

[crisp pine]

but it's cool that it's there

[ancient pendant]

it helps a bit

[charred obsidian]

i had a 70k shadow in my key today

[silent wedge]

70k pog

[charred obsidian]

god gamer

[ancient pendant]

don't tell roguedev that we guys have 1-1.7% damage increase in dungeon

[spice spire]

10.0 numbers

[ancient pendant]

because they deleted talent

in july

and forgot about it

flensing knives or something like this

[balmy condor]

how little do you think of the dev team

that you think they don't know

[royal lantern]

you know wow players

[silent wedge]

[charred obsidian]

i mean. outlaw has a weird bug where between the eyes wont shoot and its still not fixed

[royal lantern]

devs dont play the game

but at the same time do perfectly targeted nerfs to MY spec all the time for NO reason at all

[raven egret]

Don't know a single one

[balmy condor]

and you think that's not known either?

[runic hinge]

So true bestie

[spice spire]

No I don’t

[ancient pendant]

but if they know it, why they can't just fix it?

[charred obsidian]

and why is it not fixed then lol

[runic hinge]

Holy moly

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read today

[ancient pendant]

like i'm pretty sure they have QA testers

[charred obsidian]

it has been in the game since launch of the game / tww

[balmy condor]

my car makes a weird sound when I start it, why don't I just fix it

[charred obsidian]

?

[keen spruce]

I have never heard a bigger self-outting of having never worked anywhere near anything remotely related to product or software development

[ancient pendant]

you are not getting paid for your car my brother

[balmy condor]

just fix it

5head

so simple

so easy

[spice spire]

Every fix is a simple 5 minute process

[charred obsidian]

tf are you om about

[balmy condor]

they have nothing else to do and no other work

fix the bug

[keen spruce]

just fix it

[charred obsidian]

its their job tf

[balmy condor]

brother tf are YOU on about

[ancient pendant]

i thought

[fickle lotus]

bug just needs to be exposed during rwf for it to be fixed

[ancient pendant]

people getting paid

when they do job

like when you call some guy to fix your plumbing stuff or whatever it's called on eng

[balmy condor]

you realize they have legit an endless list of work right

like they could always fix something

there's always bugs

[ancient pendant]

yep

i understand that

[balmy condor]

they have to make the new patch on top of all of that

[limpid hearth]

Ya but my class is the most important

Right?

[ancient pendant]

nonono sir

i know that monk has 36 bugs

in this patch

[balmy condor]

and their boss goes "hey, this is your job for the week, have it done"

[charred obsidian]

no that would be mage

[balmy condor]

and they go okay

and then the bug doesn't get fixed

because it's just

not a priority

we aren't stupid enough to not understand how prioirities work right

do I need to explain what that word means

[limpid hearth]

Yes

[ancient pendant]

i understand your position brother

[cunning basin]

So true bestie

[spice spire]

You’re telling me

It’s not just an action list?

[balmy condor]

it's not a "position" brother it's how the fucking world works

[ancient pendant]

i think you are right, i didn't thought that blizzard is a small indie company

[balmy condor]

[ancient pendant]

xd

[balmy condor]

GOOD ONE

[vague sun]

Its so easy to fix though lol just delete the buggy line of code. They dont even have to pay me i would do it for free

[balmy condor]

NEVER HEARD OF THAT ONE

[cunning basin]

I can't believe that my tiny bug in my class isn't the #1 priority over the new patches

[balmy condor]

WOW

SO ORIGINAL

[keen spruce]

So like... imagine you're working at mcdonalds. and mcdonalds just launched a new burger. There's like hundreds of new customers and lines around the block. The staffing at your mcdonalds hasn't changed. You're super busy makin the new burgers as well as trying to keep the rest of the food the same quality. you're crankin out like thousands of burgies a day. Overtime occasionally. barely time to catch your breath

Then someone pees on the floor of the bathroom. And someone comes in and says "hey someone peed on the floor." and you're like "k we're aware thx."

and like... the pee is pretty gross and annoying, but it's not like flooding the bathroom just a puddle on the floor. and there's literallly 1000 other things you have to do that are more important

[icy girder]

How much of our dmg is physical to benefit from mystic touch

[cunning basin]

Actually disrespectful to me, directly(satire)

[ancient pendant]

actually, i haven't played wow like you, Whyspir, but i've played other games

[balmy condor]

fok/mut/melee

[keen spruce]

then that person comes back like 4 hours later and gets mad cuz the pee is still thre

that's u

[cobalt sphinx]

why is everyone always angry in this channel

[ancient pendant]

i don't know

[limpid hearth]

Discord*

[raven egret]

I'm angry that you think I'm angry

[fickle lotus]

because we play rogue to get rid of the angst

[charred obsidian]

lol

[balmy condor]

tuning notes bring out the biggest monkeys the zoo has to offer

[woven shore]

What are good logs in your opinion?

[limpid hearth]

Thats me im a monkey

[shy heron]

is assassination viable tho

[woven shore]

And what are exceptional logs

[cunning basin]

Fuck you I'm not angry you're angry 😡

[raven egret]

What does that question even mean? Good logs are ones where boss dies

[ancient pendant]

sorry guys for typing

[bright turret]

i know bug fixing is rough, but am I allowed to blame devs for fight designs they clearly didn't try playing themselves

[glacial scroll]

Purple good, high purples orange pink exceptional

[cunning basin]

Boss died, you didn't die and you did the mechanics correctly

[ancient pendant]

maybe i typed wrong thing, i apologize

https://tenor.com/view/friends-hug-support-penguin-mental-health-gif-2260491795088911790

[woven shore]

70-94 was purple right?

[normal mist]

Guys stop making whispyr mad

[balmy condor]

75-94

50-74 is blue

[woven shore]

Tx

[royal lantern]

beginner mistake

you just make a big red "FIX BUGS" button and press it

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

[charred obsidian]

thats called skill issue

[cunning basin]

Holy fuck why didn't I think of that 🤦

[normal mist]

If you're sad, just stop being sad

[cunning basin]

Get this guy a JOB

[limpid hearth]

Just be garbage at the game then you dont realize the bugs

[royal lantern]

damm, my depression is cured

[normal mist]

You're welcome

[balmy condor]

I'm just going to continue to believe blizzard is paying dozens of talented software devs a 6 figure salary to sit around and do nothing

[kind forge]

Royal always been like that

[woven shore]

Exactly

[kind forge]

Running around in this discord just to cure depression

[cunning basin]

Royal doing jod's work 🙏

[woven shore]

If you are homeless just buy a house

[ancient pendant]

Sorry brother Whyspir, i wish you guys best of the best! ❤️

[fickle lotus]

i hate to break this to you but they ain't paying them a 6 figure salary

[ancient pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/juiju-tired-sleepy-yawn-gif-17239700741037192054

[hallow pelican]

thats been my entire ethos since Cataclysm

[balmy condor]

I actually have a code solution for blizzard maybe someone can code review it for me?

if (bug) then
  no
end

[cunning basin]

Yeah looks good bro

Send it

[hallow pelican]

pure genius