!plater
#assassination
wet pasture
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
kindred hinge
So bumbling wax has been fixed ? I could apply it today. Dealt 0.5% of my overall in 10
soft shale
yes it was fixed
spice spire
!wax
prisma monolithBOT
Bubbling Wax can once again be applied to weapons of all levels
There might still be bugs and odd things happening to it that hasn't been tested yet, but it seems to be working based on initial testing
quiet oar
But got a decent one where i had no bad luck
kindred hinge
Seems quite low tbh, but will have to sim
quiet oar
Not on rashanan
spice spire
Check bit by bit
Oh no this was to @kindred hinge
Can see if it had 0 on a boss or trash pack
quiet oar
Oh 
wooden radish
So bumbling wax has been fixed ? I could apply it today. Dealt 0.5% of my overal...
nice, is it worth to use?
kindred hinge
Will have a look, no death no
spice spire
Ahhh without a death that kinda sucks
quiet oar
only st
runic hinge
Wax this 
quiet oar
Wax this <a:hypergrab:965830301093888042>
Say no more
kindred hinge
Na procced on both trash and boss. Performed a bit better in term of overall dps on boss but make sense since the dps is much lower than on packs
tight wedge
How much haste minimum are we supposed to have?
static glacier
!pooling
prisma monolithBOT
Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom
- For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
kindred hinge
2.18B overall, 11.9m wax.. meh but still need to sim
static glacier
@balmy condor is there any argument for not pooling if it's DN env for hunt em down uptime?
waxen oyster
bro is complaining about free enchant
runic hinge
How much haste minimum are we supposed to have?
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
tough widget
runic hinge
<@167090536602140682> is there any argument for not pooling if it's DN env for h...
Should proc darkest night asap
limpid sleet
what poisons do i keep up for pve? Since we have the 4 poison application thing skilled for raid
waxen oyster
what poisons do i keep up for pve? Since we have the 4 poison application thing ...
not wound
iron ivy
Hi guys, anyone got any tips on dealing damage on broodtwister Ovi'nax? I get 49% parse, but others seem to do way more damage on caustic spatter.
waxen oyster
so your options are almost non existent
runic hinge
what poisons do i keep up for pve? Since we have the 4 poison application thing ...
!poison
prisma monolithBOT
You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:
Lethals:
- Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
Non-Lethals: - Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB
Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used
limpid sleet
ty
clever sapphire
Hi guys, anyone got any tips on dealing damage on broodtwister Ovi'nax? I get 49...
kcik the warriors and frost dks from your group
that solves one problem
tight wedge
indeed
clever sapphire
so did merci
iron ivy
Ah might be the case š
static glacier
Should proc darkest night asap
yeah theoretically it makes sense but then there's questions like is it worth pooling for 10s amp / overall env uptime
since we're talking a few different possible conditions, if anyone's simmed these apls it'd be whisp
young dust
on 10s and higher keys are you running atrophic or numbing poison?
static glacier
eg pooling extra hard on 1s mark so we can have like 3 globals til dn is proc'd after it
limber lion
Darmoon Deck: Ascenscion
clever sapphire
Ah might be the case š
also another "solution" is delaying your opener for example for when the adds spawn so you get spatter value there during cooldowns
static glacier
on 10s and higher keys are you running atrophic or numbing poison?
I generally default to atro, but theoretically numbing can help more on trash, esp casters that are kickable
young dust
Hi guys, anyone got any tips on dealing damage on broodtwister Ovi'nax? I get 49...
damage in this boss is unreliable because of your raid comp, there's not much room to optimize if you're parsing well on other bosses
the top parser for example has only 1 frost and 1 warrior in their comp, he runs CT and farms a lot
clever sapphire
CT is also good boss dmg
iron ivy
Ah makes sense, thanks everyone š
clever sapphire
so its not only for aoe
young dust
tank positioning is also an issue, if your tanks aren't stacking well adds on boss, caustic wont spatter
hardy prairie
do we spend our animacharges on refreshing bleeds or just send them on envenoms?
clever sapphire
(personally dont take this as a rule) i just spend it on whatever i need at that point 
young dust
CT is also good boss dmg
but thats optional from what i've seen
in fact casualaddict did top parse without CT on brood
clever sapphire
oh so my personal opinion is the smart way, confirmed by quake himself easy
hardy prairie
If dn is up only for envenom
dn is darkest night right? (new to sin from OL)
clever sapphire
yap
clever sapphire
of how many targets you cast it at
yes afaik
thats why it was worth week 1
to press it when the orb affix spawned
runic hinge
of how many targets you cast it at
Yes
clever sapphire
maybe im just coping
young dust
oh so my personal opinion is the smart way, confirmed by quake himself easy
well i can't see how much he did more on the boss itself because of CT, log is private, but he pulled 2.44M overall without CT
runic hinge
But itās better to cast it on things that live because the efficiency is in the full bleed
clever sapphire
well i can't see how much he did more on the boss itself because of CT, log is p...
CT sounds like a given for me on that boss on mythic
waxen oyster
well i can't see how much he did more on the boss itself because of CT, log is p...
lower aoe comp maybe
This was with CT but 3 warriors
young dust
This was with CT but 3 warriors
how much damage on boss itself?
raven egret
WOO WAX IS BACK BABBYYY
raven egret
Pins made me so happy had to use one right away
urban trench
Do we ever go Imp garrote or SS for pure single target?
spice spire
dn is darkest night right? (new to sin from OL)
Yes
spice spire
of how many targets you cast it at
Yes
spice spire
Do we ever go Imp garrote or SS for pure single target?
4th pin - second point
clever sapphire
short and efficient
young dust
2.2 overall, 1,13 on broodtwister, with CT
2.2 overall, 1,25 on brood without CT
it all comes down to what your raid needs the most i guess
waxen oyster
Where spatter
clever sapphire
2.2 overall, 1,25 on brood without CT
also remember, this guy had 1 more kb cast and 1 more dm cast
also he had more kb crits
quaint knoll
DO we have a Bis list on here?
spice spire
2.2 overall, 1,13 on broodtwister, with CT
Okay but check lolaeās log.
That man turbo fucked the boss
spice spire
DO we have a Bis list on here?
Bis list in guides. Pretty bad use for 90% of gamers though
snow kindle
5 Pis
spice spire
Good for trinket priority
young dust
also remember, this guy had 1 more kb cast and 1 more dm cast
yeah but in a 9 minute fight that's 10k dps difference
quaint knoll
Bis list in guides. Pretty bad use for 90% of gamers though
JUst want to know which tier I should build. Like on chest/shoulder etc
spice spire
JUst want to know which tier I should build. Like on chest/shoulder etc
Off piece is chest
So everything but that if you can help
young dust
tl;dr thres no right or wrong, i was just tryin to optimize damage on boss, but doesn't really change significantly
spice spire
But sim etc
quaint knoll
Off piece is chest
Makes sense. where did you see that?
young dust
Okay but check lolaeās log.
That man turbo fucked the boss
you mean on boss only or overall?
raven egret
I mean just get all 5 pieces, or any 4. Off pieces are kind of a meme
quaint knoll
I mean just get all 5 pieces, or any 4. Off pieces are kind of a meme
I just have the spelunkers mark to spend and wondered which piece I should upgrade is all
young dust
And there are 8 parses higher on overall already
snow kindle
well CT scales off target hit so it should do as much as an envenom or more shouldnt it
young dust
1.25 with CT was impressive
TempĆŖte cramoisie
spice spire
9/29 kill too so he has to do it this week
spice spire
https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237
99.999999%
young dust
But indeed the ST ended up being good
balmy condor
TempĆŖte cramoisie
gesundheit
spice spire
neat raptor
Radiant power or Dephts? if im doing both content
gray hazel
I did one of each
wild hound
Could someone pretty please check if they see what I'm doing wrong and can improve on? šā¤ļø
spice spire
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/kazzak/viscentia#difficulty=4
Nvm just here @slate crown or @silk bane can one of you thread rq!
mystic robin
How crucial is it to get a stealth reset (drop combat) between pulls in M+?
grim vigil
anyone wanna look at those raid builds and tell me the difference and situations they would be better, CMQA27SZpS4XnmFfcXRqkppuwPjZmhZmxyMAAAAAAMbDWmBAAAAAg22mZGegZGMzMLz2MjxAzMzMzYmNLjZA2MLDMglglhJwwCA
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first one uses sanguine blades and improved garrote, second has 2 points in vicious venoms, most top parses use those 2 builds i just wanna understand the difference
spice spire
How crucial is it to get a stealth reset (drop combat) between pulls in M+?
!restealths
!restealth
prisma monolithBOT
Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:
- Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
- Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
- Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
- While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
- You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
round spire
silk bane
Quirex log review
strange python
Guys is there anyone that can run some log reviews for me? Was relatively decent at sin a few expansions ago but really struggling to get the hang of it atm. I feel I'm definitely getting there in m+ which has been my main focus but in the weekly raids I'm lacking a bit. Been trying to take snips from here and following the guides as best I can but feel I'm still falling down
think pooling and KB usage/energy for is my biggest letdown but would really appreciate a critical eye
when I say a bit, I mean a lot....compared to what I would like
nova aspen
WOO WAX IS BACK BABBYYY
but is it back on both weapons
static glacier
Could someone pretty please check if they see what I'm doing wrong and can impro...
first thing I checked, you shouldn't double gar like this, it's a loss compared to pressing mut instead of 2nd gar if they're both on same target
this was on princess
calm tendon
hmm.. bubbling wax is fixed .. at least we can use it again on higher weapons
static glacier
other than that be a bit more disciplined with tea usage
calm tendon
anyone checked if it procs now correct?
static glacier
you're double teaing in cds on pull and overcapping energy with second tea
you'd rather hold and send it with KB on 1m where you'll not be saturated with energy due to no dm / lust
wild hound
Ahh right, thats smart! So only use one tea per window?
static glacier
and if you are gonna double gar for w/e reason on 1 target try to space them out as much as possible to maximise uptime
wild hound
With DM that is
static glacier
Ahh right, thats smart! So only use one tea per window?
you can use all three, but remember the tea rules
!tea
strange python
Sorry if this isn't the place, just saw the above where he linked direct https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wtFXCGQ3BbNYAVRr
gloomy jacinth
Hi guys, please, I just dropped Ara-kara trinket, but I have Ritual Knife (both hero track). Ritual Knife sims better, but in the guide it's A vs S tier. Is Ritual Knife really better?
static glacier
- you're not going to waste the 100 energy it gives
the first condition makes you send it with dm on pull
if you can burn enough energy you can send a second, otherwise you end up sending 1-2 on kingsbane at 1m
wild hound
Okay so prio the energy of it over the mastery when at less than 3 stacks
wild hound
That's great feedback, will use it with more thought!
wild hound
Thanks a lot ā¤ļø
static glacier
this is a lil illegal too
nova aspen
i can confirm bubbling wax is working with only my offhand 
static glacier
we ideally don't want to gar or rupture during shiv
slate crown
this is a lil illegal too
yo put it in the log review you're posting on main
wild hound
And with the garrote, do we vanish garrote with improved garrote when it goes pandemic on cd?
slate crown
static glacier
yo put it in the log review you're posting on main
mb
cobalt sphinx
rate this macro: /tar void emissary /use mad queen's mandate /targetlasttarget
contributing
dusty ocean
A guild mate and I were talking and we are unsure which is correct: if you only have one charge of tea available for a Kingsbane window is it better to use before Kingsbane for the mastery buff to the initial hit or during your second shiv in the Kingsbane window for the mastery buff to the big Stack dot?
opal chasm
yall crack me up š
slate robin
Can I sim for mixed gems? Trying to see if mixing gems is better than bis stat
Right now sims tell me to stack haste/crit, that doesnt sound right :S
royal lantern
A guild mate and I were talking and we are unsure which is correct: if you only ...
shiv
you use tea for shiv, not for KB
and you use tea with shiv when it gives ENERGY
not mastery
the mastery is a small goodie
the enregy is the real part of the ability
keen spruce
Right now sims tell me to stack haste/crit, that doesnt sound right :S
Itās right
And I donāt think you can sum mixed gems because there has never been a time in the history of wow when it was ever worth doing that
slate robin
Ah OK, thanks
keen spruce
Weāre talking about low 0.x% at absolute most
and more likely closer to like in the hundreds of dps
Not thousands
slate robin
Ah OK, so the Prismatic gem just sucks? xD
winged basin
bloodmallet says we like Sikrans for aoe, is that dependant on pulling a weapon from the trinket that does cleave? I got a hero one from raid last night, and just curious if I should swap out my Void Reapers in keys for it
keen spruce
Well prismatic should be best
U gotta select those separately from the other fema
Gems
slate robin
I mean the crit effect per unique gem
slate robin
0.15% crit effect per unique gem
keen spruce
Or you could swap in some random gem
onyx sigil
You can absolutely sim mixed gems and itās a lot better, lol.
winged basin
ooh I can put my 2 cents into this, the difference is pretty miniscule, I think I got more damage from just getting the extra gem slots bought, than I did from the crit increase itself
keen spruce
Maybe Iām behind the times. That effect sound good enough to jumble gems
keen spruce
But I guess what I meant is that optimizing a jumble of gems is not going to be significant on its own. But yeah if thereās a meta gem effect then itās probably worth for the same reason
Since the dos difference of the gems themselves is so minimal
That free dmg from the meta gem would basically just be free real estate
slate robin
I will just check raider io for top rogues and do what they have done, cant go wrong that way haha
onyx sigil
this is how you sim it on raidbots
slate robin
Thanks
onyx sigil
then you just select all the colored gems you want to sim obv
royal lantern
I will just check raider io for top rogues and do what they have done, cant go w...
eh
that is very very wrong
like, unironicaly 1 of the worst things you can do
slate robin
I am running the sim now š
keen spruce
Especially for ass rogues. Our top players are key terrorists 
median igloo
Would Mastery Eng Bracers technically be better than LW bracers?
runic hinge
Itās just a time amount of dps 100.6% crit damage is barely more over a whole key
runic hinge
Would Mastery Eng Bracers technically be better than LW bracers?
If youāre on whisperwind-us definitely and you should send your order with a big tip to Tonynugz
But actually probably not cause you canāt embellish
median igloo
If youāre on whisperwind-us definitely and you should send your order with a big...
lol unfortunately i'm not
runic hinge
So youād have to do belt or boots instead of
median igloo
But actually probably not cause you canāt embellish
oh, i was under the impression you could
welp, nvm then
fading hearth
So, I am very new to rogue, started yesterday. Are main stats crit mastery and is this shared with subtlety?
finite eagle
Does Mastery apply to our Evenoms as well?>
raven egret
but is it back on both weapons
not that I think of
keen spruce
So, I am very new to rogue, started yesterday. Are main stats crit mastery and i...
No main stats. Robot will like all 4 depending on gear but crit mastery is a decent place to start
spice spire
Does Mastery apply to our Evenoms as well?>
Yes
tulip portal
Is it smart to time Thistle Teas for Darkest Night procs as long as we dont overcap energy?
arctic socket
Does mastery apply to our nuts?
arctic socket
Is it smart to time Thistle Teas for Darkest Night procs as long as we dont over...
Are you low on energy and need the energy? Use it
keen spruce
Does mastery apply to our nuts?
fading hearth
Thank you for the input. Seeing that I can craft the waist item, I think of putting crit mastery as haste comes from other items
keen spruce
Thank you for the input. Seeing that I can craft the waist item, I think of putt...
Reasonable 
arctic socket
Yall have haste?
arctic socket
https://tenor.com/view/duck-duck-trap-duck-flip-gif-24652643
Nice underside
runic hinge
Yall have haste?
Yeah I have like 20% lol. Sim loves it. And my rings are just big haste like 65/35
spice spire
Does mastery apply to our nuts?
Yeah
arctic socket
Yeah I have like 20% lol. Sim loves it. And my rings are just big haste like 65/...
I think I have like 3% haste
And crit mast still sims higher
spice spire
keen spruce
Haste gud
arctic socket
Plunder
keen spruce
Plunder these nuts
arctic socket
Haste is doo and vers is doodoo
spice spire
Plunder? I hardly know er!
keen spruce
spice spire
Plunder these nuts
I might
spice spire
20 dollars is 20 dollars
Lil bro when I pull out the 100 dollar bill
spice spire
Dog no
hardy prairie
is there anything about this damage profile for an m+ that's a red flag for something im not doing/doing too much of?
spice spire
Caustic is too low
static glacier
is there anything about this damage profile for an m+ that's a red flag for some...
caustic and ct are kinda low
chilly mist
what is it from
quasi steppe
whats the 2 trinkets to stick with in m+? skardyns and empowering crystal?
hardy prairie
i play OL, havent played sin since legion
static glacier
whats the 2 trinkets to stick with in m+? skardyns and empowering crystal?
ye, queen's mandate can be an option for killing prio targets
hardy prairie
also didnt ask to be roasted, asked for advice
chilly mist
dude..
balmy condor
is there anything about this damage profile for an m+ that's a red flag for some...
this has got to be like a 5 second pull
low kernel
For Mad Queen trinket in opener - do you use it before you start your first envenom followed by DM + Shiv etc?
chilly mist
what scenario is it from
balmy condor
why are you doing 32k with a kb
chilly mist
thats not what he meant
spice spire
Yeah Iām not roasting
arctic socket
We arenāt roasting you
hardy prairie
oh
spice spire
These numbers actually donāt process in my mind
quasi steppe
ye, queen's mandate can be an option for killing prio targets
not like deadeye or ara trink?
hardy prairie
wait yea i see what youre saying lmaoo
scenic mulch
they're trying to say, you can't discern anything from this damage log since it's too short
lapis barn
Idk if anyone has brought this up but does anyone know what's with this log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zWAwfHJa72gYnTV3#fight=129&type=damage-done&translate=true
Like they've smuggled some sorta buff or smth right
jaunty matrix
does the slot of the trinket affect dmg ?
arctic socket
Your numbers arenāt mathing right
static glacier
not like deadeye or ara trink?
deadeye and ara fill the same niche as empowering, passive stat trink for good overall
jaunty matrix
because the sim changes the places of trinkets
static glacier
mandate is good for deleting individual mobs
think similar niche to grieftorch / beacon used to have
calm tendon
wow 0.6 %
quasi steppe
damn
arctic socket
Knife is sick
balmy condor
Idk if anyone has brought this up but does anyone know what's with this log: htt...
either that or it's edited doesn't really matter
it'll get invalidated and gg
arctic socket
Really anything with grave if itās a good passive goes hard
balmy condor
yeh this looks better, caustic and ct still too low though
spice spire
Okay this makes way more sense
hardy prairie
sorry lol
static glacier
spatter seems too low unless you had wipes on a boss or v extended st
balmy condor
spice spire
Yeah what mo said.
balmy condor
for reference this was an 11 mists
arctic socket
Youāre not keeping caustic up enough, and probably arenāt ever presssing CT
hardy prairie
oh wow
lapis barn
either that or it's edited doesn't really matter
Surprised it can even go up with everyone yoinking a rank one outta the blue with heinous numbers above the rest of the players
arctic socket
Make sure to multi to keep caustic up
hardy prairie
im pressing CT once to apply it to groups, does it need to be spammed instead of envenom?
arctic socket
You press it when you go into packs and make sure you keep it up
static glacier
no, but you reapply it
raven egret
im pressing CT once to apply it to groups, does it need to be spammed instead of...
it is just a dot, spamming does nothing extra
static glacier
when it is 4s or less
past bobcat
How do we get caustic to go up? I compared some of my brood pulls with others and their caustic is doing 60+ million more
static glacier
!pandemic
prisma monolithBOT
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
arctic socket
How do we get caustic to go up? I compared some of my brood pulls with others an...
Thatās group dependent
And tank dependant
scenic mulch
they are likely using it with empowered ER
static glacier
keeping ct up is highest aoe prio outside of indescriminate carnage pretty much
scenic mulch
but also if you have warriors
calm tendon
arak 9++. but didnt liked the pulls :/
hardy prairie
we're supposed to focus one mob in the group to keep the caustic up right?
gloomy otter
how do i sim what gems are best for me?
past bobcat
We have 2 warriors 2 fdk lol
balmy condor
Surprised it can even go up with everyone yoinking a rank one outta the blue wit...
yeh just go to the ranking and hit the little flag on the right
it'll go away
scenic mulch
mutilate applies caustic to whatever you hit that has garrote+rupture up, 10 seconds
gloomy otter
i have 5 crit/mastery gems in
static glacier
arak 9++. but didnt liked the pulls :/
looks fine tbh, even if kingsbane seems slightly lower
than id like
calm tendon
it died to fast.. and guess it was my 3rd kara run or something š was not sure what the pug pulls together
static glacier
biggest tip i can give for kb is dont greed the env before sending it
or shiv even]
runic hinge
arak 9++. but didnt liked the pulls :/
Did you time it
hardy prairie
why is garrote uptime so much higher than rup?
balmy condor
the uptime numbers on details are absolute meme shit
static glacier
in m+ i frequently go dm > kb > env after spreading gar / rup and ct
balmy condor
dw bout that
hardy prairie
makes sense
hardy prairie
ohh i see yea
brisk path
after 24GBs, its over 
manic quartz
i'm kinda vibing with asssa in dungeons, i just have insane feral with me always who pumps like no tomorrow
hardy prairie
do we keep CT up on bosses/st for m+?
balmy condor
do we keep CT up on bosses/st for m+?
2 target
balmy condor
i'm kinda vibing with asssa in dungeons, i just have insane feral with me always...
I had that in the 10 before the 11
we actually had to swap off cooldowns
cause if we both cooldown'd, the pack would explode and neither one of us did dam
was cursed
spice spire
ahri sighting
cyan dew
Guys does wax still have that death bug where you need to unequip your dagger and equip again? Also, main hand or off?
manic quartz
Yeah we desynced our CD's aswell and it was mists 11 aswell xD
cerulean nest
2 target
itās kind of dumb taking CT on ovinax rn right? I see a couple taking it but doesnāt seem worth
balmy condor
<:HOLY:1250893440183570533> ahri sighting
actual wowhead group
whispyr jereico voulk dream team
balmy condor
itās kind of dumb taking CT on ovinax rn right? I see a couple taking it but doe...
on mythic you 100% should
wheat tiger
The PTR patch notes? Are they good for Sin?
manic quartz
god i pumped in mythic ovinax before we eventually wiped, CT does some work there
balmy condor
Isnāt Jericho the hdh guy?
jereico is aug writer
spice spire
Ahh
cerulean nest
on mythic you 100% should
yeah mythic. alright iāll try tonight
wild hound
Quick question, is it worth reapplying bleeds before pandemic if KB or DM is coming off cd and the bleeds will fall off within the cd window?
manic quartz
is there any sims about the things that replace ER in the anniversary patch?
balmy condor
no
balmy condor
Quick question, is it worth reapplying bleeds before pandemic if KB or DM is com...
also no
heavy trail
Since I am engineer and might make my own bracers with crit, is it a horrible idea to craft the dawnthreads on say belt or on my boots š ?
wild hound
Thx! ā¤ļø
hardy prairie
is it normal to be absolutely starved for energy on bosses in m+?
manic quartz
yes
hardy prairie
roger
balmy condor
yeah mythic. alright iāll try tonight
for reference, sloppy sim I have set up, don't take it too seriously, not actual ovi'nax blah blah sim fight style blah nonsense blah disclaimer whatever
wah is dropping CT
you lose like 12% of your overall
but also lose single target
so
CT good
spider damage good
worm damage good
cerulean nest
oh wow okay. it must be bc of boss health last week
cerulean nest
that so many werenāt taking it
balmy condor
No
People just donāt take it
Because they donāt get how good CT is
Cause itās permanently overshadowed by caustic
wild hound
also no
Say garrote is on 10 seconds remaining, would we hold off on CDs for 4 sec until we can reapply it within pandemic, or just send em?
cerulean nest
oh theyāre dumbasses like me 5 mins ago cool
balmy condor
Say garrote is on 10 seconds remaining, would we hold off on CDs for 4 sec until...
Send
wild hound
Oki perfect, thx!
normal mist
iron kiln
what are the conditions for using vanish in solo target ?
balmy condor
what are the conditions for using vanish in solo target ?
Are you using imp gar?
static glacier
but also lose single target
i think people forget that ct counts for lethal dose, and cps / energy are just plentiful in aoe
wide shuttle
Because they donāt get how good CT is
Does this extend to more fights than just ovinax?
balmy condor
Does this extend to more fights than just ovinax?
Silken court I guess but otherwise no
Not enough adds otherwise
brave comet
the druid tank and his friend kemet are both 2200 io, we pulled the first boss in stonevault, and they started bitching i was destroying the pillars.
they said that killed the tank, and ragequit after the first attempt. should i or should i not destroy the pillars?
cerulean walrus
Destroy all but one and then let the last one get destroyed by the slam
manic quartz
we just did all every time š®
blazing pumice
they give a stacking debuff
pallid goblet
we've always destroyed all
iron kiln
Are you using imp gar?
surr
blazing pumice
that won't fly on higher keys
cobalt sphinx
we did all every time on 10
pallid goblet
on +11
manic quartz
my go to line for healers is: If you cant heal it, just heal š
blazing pumice
it's like the 2nd boss in neltharus
cobalt sphinx
it's better if you stack the pillars and get them simultaneously than killing them sequentially with multiple beams though
blazing pumice
if you break all the chains your healer is probably using cds
balmy condor
surr
Idk if thatās a yes
Im gonna assume thatās a yes
If youāre running imp gar, vanish for improved garrote during deathmark
cerulean walrus
Idk if thatās a yes
Surr
calm tendon
surr=sure
brave comet
why would the tank be the one to die and bitch?
balmy condor
You canāt park there sure
brave comet
if the debuff hits everyone
blazing pumice
cuz they get cranked
royal lantern
why would the tank be the one to die and bitch?
you said it was a druid tank right
brave comet
yes
cobalt sphinx
druid gets one-shotted by the tankbuster on that fight
you have to dispel the for the tankbuster mechanic
iron kiln
Im gonna assume thatās a yes
sorry didn't pay attention
cobalt sphinx
dispelling gives 50% damage reduction
brisk path
should I use bottled toxin, arakara or spyglass paired with skardyns? sim says spyglass but its uptime in reality is not that great
blazing pumice
arakara
brave comet
druid gets one-shotted by the tankbuster on that fight
so is it fine that i destroyed the spike?
it wasnt on me like he claimed?
i'm the rogue
cobalt sphinx
i think so unless they wanted a different strat
golden kettle
I wish they could make the affix Cdr affect trinkets too, getting desync'd feels bad
cobalt sphinx
seems like most people do 2 or 3 pillars with beams
cerulean nest
@balmy condor I have sacbrood, mqm and sikrans trinket. been using mqm for boss on ovinax what do you recommend (using skardyns obv)
royal lantern
seems like most people do 2 or 3 pillars with beams
2 pillars cus the affix add triggers 1
frigid void
Do you guys use any mods for your enemy nameplates? I swear blizzard UI shows so much you can't even see half your bleeds.
manic quartz
Whispyr's platerš
raven vapor
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calm tendon
i use jundies (plater; different mobs have different colors in m+)
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Do you guys use any mods for your enemy nameplates? I swear blizzard UI shows so...
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wow fatebound its starting to simming higher
cobalt sphinx
omegalul
cerulean compass
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Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
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rain mortar
my sims actually want me to have zero haste
spice spire
my sims actually want me to have zero haste
My sims have said that haste is evil and I have to kill it
lunar torrent
Where are you guys simming the best? Still simcraft?
Also, is bubbling wax still a thing?
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> I have sacbrood, mqm and sikrans trinket. been using mqm f...
Probably mqm
calm tendon
Also, is bubbling wax still a thing?
1 weapon + with oil i got 0.6% from wax
steel geyser
Where are you guys simming the best? Still simcraft?
raidbot
steel geyser
Also, is bubbling wax still a thing?
yes
lunar torrent
ok thanks you @steel geyser
fluid dagger
Yall playing fatebound? XD
Canāt tell how effective each hero talent would be for me since a sim is a sim lol maybe just need to parse on something
static glacier
Canāt tell how effective each hero talent would be for me since a sim is a sim l...
both are v close in general
I play fatebound if I wanna chill / on hc reclear
and DS on mythic
rain mortar
this is literally what the sims want me to do lmao
static glacier
if i had more crit i'd consider fatebound for more bosses
runic hinge
Same
kindred elm
How much vers are you guys running in m+? Just one of those things itās hard to quantify in sims
abstract parrot
so at the end of the day how does Culminating Blasphemite mythic gem work??? do i need to socket 4 different gems for it to work?
i dont see any stats changing
keen spruce
How much vers are you guys running in m+? Just one of those things itās hard to ...
You donāt get more vers for the survivability
In 99.99% of situations
So w/e the sim recommends for max damage is what everyone gonna run
cyan dew
Guys does wax still have that death bug where you need to unequip your dagger and equip again? Also, main hand or off?
cobalt sphinx
so at the end of the day how does Culminating Blasphemite mythic gem work??? do ...
it's .15% more crit damage per different color, but it's barely any more damage than just running all the same color lol
you can run different colors if you want
don't use stam
blazing pumice
stacking vers for m+ is bad
static glacier
How much vers are you guys running in m+? Just one of those things itās hard to ...
Im quite vers heavy, still running a vers ring that I share with sub / my 2nd embelish is dusk lining bc I like having extra vers
blazing pumice
you go up a key level, everything hits 7% harder (or whatever it is) and your vers has basically been mitigated and you're doing no dmg
kindred elm
So w/e the sim recommends for max damage is what everyone gonna run
Yeah ok just thought 2-3 percent seemed low af
static glacier
you go up a key level, everything hits 7% harder (or whatever it is) and your ve...
doing no dmg is a massive exaggeration
blazing pumice
if you're stacking the worst secondary it isn't
static glacier
if you're stacking the worst secondary it isn't
no one ever advocated for "stacking"
abstract parrot
it's .15% more crit damage per different color, but it's barely any more damage ...
thanks brother
static glacier
8% vers with lining giving like 750 rating is very far from stacking
static glacier
How much vers are you guys running in m+? Just one of those things itās hard to ...
just l2feint the right stuff / start running elusiveness and you'll never have issues living
kindred elm
just l2feint the right stuff / start running elusiveness and you'll never have i...
Yeah aoe wasnāt what I thought the issue is just big dots ect
keen spruce
Yeah ok just thought 2-3 percent seemed low af
Yeah the trouble is just that getting vers to a % that would be meaningful in m+ as a defensive would kind of grief you damage. And getting a couple more % wonāt have any noticeable impact on survivability so thereās no real point t
static glacier
Yeah aoe wasnāt what I thought the issue is just big dots ect
elusiveness makes feint give dr on all dmg
kindred elm
I feint all the time already
kindred elm
elusiveness makes feint give dr on all dmg
Oh true
static glacier
what about evasion for magic dr
kindred elm
Will start giving it a go
static glacier
if you're using all defensives and still dying something fishy is going on
we're deffo in the upper echelon of tanky classes
id guess a lack of kicks or healer is afk
kindred elm
if you're using all defensives and still dying something fishy is going on
Itās not dieing just not feeling as tanking as Iād like sometimes
drifting cloud
youre not dying because of lack of vers atm
nobody is doing keys that high yet
and they might not even exist because its more likely going to be a dps check before its a surv check
indigo crypt
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kindred elm
But yeah was just asking the question while I saw people talking about sims
fair stirrup
elusiveness makes feint give dr on all dmg
Meaning, the effectiveness of feint has DR and decreasingly effective per use?
kindred elm
Meaning, the effectiveness of feint has DR and decreasingly effective per use?
Damage reduction
static glacier
Meaning, the effectiveness of feint has DR and decreasingly effective per use?
as in it can reduce non aoe damage in adition to aoe
kindred elm
Yeah not like say stun dr that you might be thinking of
quartz osprey
elusiveness makes feint give dr on all dmg
Donāt forget you can evasion for a big DR too
Especially nice with DS
static glacier
but yeah, once you start doing content where you need to cover a ton of things with defensives you start dropping cheat
quartz osprey
Evasion + feint doesnāt feel like a 60% reduction on aoe
static glacier
since it's more than anything a safety net
blazing pumice
what
quartz osprey
Either you donāt use it, or tank dies and you waste it or something
thorn fjord
@balmy condor How did your wax test go? is it still acting weird or did they actually fix?
calm tendon
but yeah, once you start doing content where you need to cover a ton of things w...
oh yeah.. nokhud s1 swirlies .. drop dead without š
fair stirrup
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1.76 overall wtf how to do. Still a lot to improve on
static glacier
1.76 overall wtf how to do. Still a lot to improve on
he had aug
though 1.76 is deffo doable without
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> How did your wax test go? is it still acting weird or did ...
I can't tell
novel star
1.76 overall wtf how to do. Still a lot to improve on
aug 
waxen thunder
I can't tell
Death bug still there?
balmy condor
I can't tell
novel star
arctic socket
When can you tell
balmy condor
more data
arctic socket
When
balmy condor
more data
arctic socket
When
balmy condor
never figure it out yourself
thorn fjord
I can't tell
lame
novel star
silent drift
for ST, much of a difference between improve gar vs improved poisons? i see players 50/50
or kinda just preference, with marginal dps change
balmy condor
preference
hardy prairie
i got my caustic dmg up, but still not quite making it with CT, better than i was doing tho
balmy condor
yeah that looks closer
hardy prairie
these are in 7's with pugs though so unsure if that matters
blazing pumice
when packs are dying, is it worth overcapping cps to apply caustic before consuming dms?
balmy condor
sure
novel star
caustic for the dn envenom is pretty important yea 
donāt think it has anything to do with the pack dying tho
vocal minnow
wax is back Pog
blazing pumice
generally when packs are dying is when you get free dms and caustic isn't applied
novel star
sure but the logic is the same and that situation could arise at any time if ur chaining
caustic spatter good
dn envenom good
spattering dn envenom good !
calm tendon
surely itās good
is it good? i had in 9++ run only 0.6%.. before they bugged it, i had regulary 1% from it
novel star
smile big
hardy prairie
should i reapply bleeds if a target is about to die to get the most out of sudden demise ?
novel star
is it good? i had in 9++ run only 0.6%.. before they bugged it, i had regulary ...
itās a little worse than whetstones but free is the thing
balmy condor
should i reapply bleeds if a target is about to die to get the most out of sudde...
no
spice spire
you don't have to overthink every gcd
Never thought a day in my life king
novel star
youād only do that with rupture for energy
arctic socket
Never thought a day in my life king
So real for that
fair stirrup
though 1.76 is deffo doable without
Most of my 10ās are a clusterfuck, maybe Iāll get a better baseline once Iām timing them more reliable + 11ās
spice spire
Ty big dog
novel star
you don't have to overthink every gcd
i donāt think thatās overthinking
calm tendon
itās a little worse than whetstones but free is the thing
yeah.. consumeables are wtf prices..
blazing pumice
use mana oils
balmy condor
i donāt think thatās overthinking
brother the pack's over
minmaxing the final gcds on a dead pack
is crazy work
novel star
ye true in that context itās all kinda whatevr
i thought u were saying in general making sure dn gets spattered is overthinking
tired
balmy condor
what if I have 4 targets and a dn proc but the lowest health target doesn't have rupture so I need to rupture with 3cp and then mut but in that time another mob dies so it's 3 target, is it worth mutilating for caustic or getting a snipe on my mandate cast for the cooldown reduction please help fast
fair stirrup
Is anyone playing DS cleave in M+ yet, or still hybrid at current key levels? Tried cleave in a 9 and didnāt like the overall damage, I donāt wanna mess with someoneās 10 key trying it out
spice spire
what if I have 4 targets and a dn proc but the lowest health target doesn't have...
Bro thatās crazy but my nuts always spatter
Checkmate pal
novel star
what if I have 4 targets and a dn proc but the lowest health target doesn't have...
why not both 
balmy condor
Is anyone playing DS cleave in M+ yet, or still hybrid at current key levels? Tr...
I don't think anyone is playing cleave ever at any level
arctic socket
what if I have 4 targets and a dn proc but the lowest health target doesn't have...
Yes
balmy condor
probably when I get back from work tonight
novel star
okay nice
arctic socket
Whispyr who did your profile pic and banner
fair stirrup
I don't think anyone is playing cleave ever at any level
Kk. Just reading through the wowhead is mentions might be viable āat the highest key levelsā, so wanted to experiment with it to see where it lands today. 30% DPS less than what I normally do
arctic socket
Rather where is it from
hardy prairie
are the builds on wowhead outdated?
keen spruce
is it mushroom game gif?
fathom flax
whats the % diff between embells, swapping from 2x focus lens from outlaw to ascension+patch on ass
novel star
Kk. Just reading through the wowhead is mentions might be viable āat the highest...
highest key levels means world first shit
balmy condor
Kk. Just reading through the wowhead is mentions might be viable āat the highest...
yeah "highest key level" as in the top 5 players in the world do it and if I don't include it in the guide people will ping me non stop
fathom flax
i cant figure out how to sim
spice spire
It is
novel star
not vault
you can literally jerk off and do anything you want and be fine for vault runs
thatās how the game has always been
fair stirrup
yeah "highest key level" as in the top 5 players in the world do it and if I don...
Ok got it. Thanks for the clarification
versed mica
Whenever someone mentions dn I think it's deez nutz for the first few seconds and I get confused
slate crown
Whenever someone mentions dn I think it's deez nutz for the first few seconds an...
DN?
drifting cloud
thats what they mean
warped belfry
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spice spire
Whenever someone mentions dn I think it's deez nutz for the first few seconds an...
No it is deez nuts
novel star
Whenever someone mentions dn I think it's deez nutz for the first few seconds an...
it has been the whole time
novel star
fuckin idiot 
keen spruce
I just think of darkest nuts now
keen spruce
well I did before too but that was unrelated
magic fossil
whispyr should make it clear on guides IF YOU DONT RAID MYTHIC OR NOT PUSHING FOR 1% M+, IGNORE all the shit u see on stream of those players, take a chill pill and read what u really need to know
keen spruce
magic fossil
u are not kush, u dont have 630 ilvl
keen spruce
whispyr should make it clear on guides IF YOU DONT RAID MYTHIC OR NOT PUSHING FO...
there is no amount of banners, clarity, explainations, or disclaimers
that would do anything to quell the unrelenting tide of collective dent
novel star
yah people just donāt read
balmy condor
whispyr should make it clear on guides IF YOU DONT RAID MYTHIC OR NOT PUSHING FO...
respectfully I warn people not to craft an int dagger or a stiletto in actually a dozen places in the guide and it still happens
cobalt sphinx
if you don't raid mythic you shouldn't bother flasking
drifting cloud
yeah this shmeepy guy is here yapping all the time and he doesnt even have the expansion
spice spire
yeah this shmeepy guy is here yapping all the time and he doesnt even have the e...
Tell that fraud
raven egret
u are not kush, u dont have 630 ilvl
I'M TRYING
magic fossil
@balmy condor INTELLECT? wtffffffffffff
novel star
the cleave build description is basically just whispyr talking about it being bad
grand trail
u are not kush, u dont have 630 ilvl
Sir, I have 628 tho
keen spruce
I jsut make shit up and have been getting lucky with it normally being mostly right
spice spire
<@167090536602140682> INTELLECT? wtffffffffffff
It happens more than you think
novel star
itās called everforged dagger
spice spire
Many such cases!
balmy condor
happened to the late great zerocool
novel star
instead of everforged stabber
novel star
understandable mistake
magic fossil
@balmy condor the only and only double vanish avocate
novel star
pooring too
magic fossil
i feel u
versed mica
I'M TRYING
The way my phone cut your post
vestal crow
i almost did it too
grand trail
Imagine deleting 90 crest
vestal crow
inches from disaster........
versed mica
Level 80 ASS
novel star
I'M TRYING
iām .3 or something i think. Owned
spice spire
Level 80 ASS
Me after I have leg day
slate crown
Me after I have leg day
We talking wotlk level 80, TWW level 80, or bfa level 80?
slate crown
Nice
keen spruce
Me after I have leg day
i haven't worked out all summer and just did legs a couple of hours ago. I feel frail and I can't walk
novel star
dude donāt nerf your ass like that man
balmy condor
Me after I have leg day
Me before I have leg day 
novel star
have some confidence
keen spruce
my ass is also unsubbed
spice spire
He thicc af
spice spire
Me before I have leg day <:gigachad:861762198905028649>
Need that
versed mica
Maybe wotlm
Wrath of the lich mommy
spice spire
Yeah
fair stirrup
the cleave build description is basically just whispyr talking about it being ba...
I read it differently; as highlighting the specific niche benefits of it, but its all moot since itās only relevant to 5 ppl
novel star
ya
spice spire
i haven't worked out all summer and just did legs a couple of hours ago. I feel ...
Youāll get there dog
novel star
fair enuf
cyan dew
Guys, does wax still have that death bug where you need to unequip your dagger and equip again? Also, main hand or off?
spice spire
I literally couldnāt sit or use my legs at all for like 2 days lmfao
drifting cloud
I literally couldnāt sit or use my legs at all for like 2 days lmfao
yeah well im eating chips rn
novel star
š
spice spire
Proud of you ryler hell yeah
balmy condor
Whispyr who did your profile pic and banner
also the banner is from a maplestory cutscene, the pfp is a piece I had comissioned from the artist that does my emotes
runic hinge
Weeb
vestal crow
yeah well im eating chips rn
chip type?
loud trench
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balmy condor
unwinnable
kindred elm
Itās already gone back right?
runic hinge
Yeh
kindred elm
winged basin
keys feel disgusting this week, how did the get rid of fort/tyran discussions turn into fuck it, make em do both.
sour oasis
A 30-50% up could be understandable
133% ahahahahahahah
They put an aleatory number
calm tendon
it has less hp.. but still suxxs š at the end you do dmg of two bosses on top
kindred elm
Also how does the cdr work I only done 1 key last night and wasnāt keeping track
steel geyser
keys feel disgusting this week, how did the get rid of fort/tyran discussions tu...
I hate the xalatah affix
Having the add spawn on any burst phase, esp fights like mist first boss feels so fcking bad
honest needle
keen spruce
it gud
proven basin
sour oasis
Why ironclaw is better than algari mana ?
proven basin
my heart...
sour oasis
I dont understand this stats is over hast + crit in mono
rugged aspen
This is a reall dumb question but with improved garrote in AoE I want those on different targets right?
or do they stack?
pastel onyx
calm tendon
it depends.. if tank chains while last mob stays at 2%.. and it he wait could 2 sec longer.. u could apply full garrotes (silence)
keen spruce
very instructive, gud bear
dragging a 2% mob into the next pack isn't chain pulling
that's just being a fkin dent
raven egret
^
pastel onyx
raven egret
Facts
calm tendon
that's just being a fkin dent
but that ppl do š
keen spruce
yes but it's not chain pulling
drifting cloud
if the mob dies on the way to the new pack you can still stealth even if they pulled the next pack
keen spruce
we need new vocab to prevent every restealth discussion to devolving into this nonsense
drifting cloud
so just stay slightly back in that scenario
calm tendon
if the mob dies on the way to the new pack you can still stealth even if they pu...
yeah ofc. but it i had this situation some times. it does not die
stupid
keen umbra
Does somebody know why i'm always getting out of stealth in the mists maze as soon as those adds spawn? In every room
keen spruce
why not call pulling a single mob under 5% hp into the next pack "yanking"
drifting cloud
thats why god gave you vanish
keen spruce
and actual chain pulling gets called chain pulling
heavy trail
There is progress, did a dungeon and although it's not a lot of damage its +300 or so compared to my last one from a few days ago only about 5 ilevels difference so mechanically I am getting a bit better lol.
calm tendon
thats why god gave you vanish
on cd š otherwise its wasted
drifting cloud
so every pull your vanish is on cd and every pack is getting chain pulled at 5%
damn weird doesnt seem to happen in my keys
keen spruce
it doesn't happen
calm tendon
cool down. no one talks from every pack
whole wadi
im not seeing any extra uptime on radiant power enchant vs players with 2h and only 1 enchant, how exactly do we benefit from running double aut of rad pow in m+?
sour oasis
@balmy condor u play with ironclaw in mm + ?
spice surge
im not seeing any extra uptime on radiant power enchant vs players with 2h and o...
It gives 2x as much stats and damage
deft vault
Do we have something specific to do to macro tempered potion with dm or just /use tempered potion
whole wadi
aight v nic
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> u play with ironclaw in mm + ?
Yes
willow cloud
balmy condor
Always have a link ready to wowhead m+ tier list
So you can link them directly to tettles calling them gaslighters
karmic merlin
I'm trying to macro Queen's Mandate to Deathmark and it's not working, is this just a thing that doesn't work or am i doing something wrong?
#showtooltip deathmark
/use 14
/cast Deathmark
keen umbra
Is there a bug in mists of tirna scithe maze that you always get out of stealth as soon as the mobs spawn?
earnest remnant
I'm trying to macro Queen's Mandate to Deathmark and it's not working, is this j...
both are on the global
so
keen umbra
thats so annoying
earnest remnant
it wont work
warm vortex
!wa
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karmic merlin
it wont work
ahh okay didn't catch that, tyvm
keen spruce
sets the target as a "focus target". This has it's own nameplate and remained focused even if you target other mobs
you can then make macros to cast spells at your focus target instead of your main target
which lets you do things like interrupt or CC mobs while hitting a different one
spice surge
Basicly "marks" a target that shows up on your UI (similar to how you see your own frame or your target) which you can then easily target and/or make macores that automatically hit that target
royal lantern
so every pull your vanish is on cd and every pack is getting chain pulled at 5%
you forgot that rupture and garrote are 99% of your dmg in aoe
spice surge
Like shmeeps said mostly commonly used on a mob with an important interrupt so you can then hit another target and still get the kick of without the stress of looking through nameplates
warm vortex
Oh so if i have like
3 mobs
a b and c
i can focus c before the pull so my kick will auto hit that?
keen spruce
yes but you'd need to have a macro like /cast @focus kick
i don't remember the exact syntax but something like that
warm vortex
Hmm alright
cause i think it might be easier for my intterupts than tab targetting haha
drifting cloud
i don't remember the exact syntax but something like that
just login and check 
keen spruce
it's definitely something worth getting used to. it'll require a few more keybinds
but definitely makes managing CC and interrupts in hectic pulls a lot easier once you build the muscle memory
keen spruce
just login and check <:xla:1283127722180087808>
warm vortex
but definitely makes managing CC and interrupts in hectic pulls a lot easier onc...
Yea i get that
drifting cloud
you can add it on a modifier on same key for example
keen spruce
ye lots of people would do something like F for kick and ctrl+F for focus kick
warm vortex
Ah ok
keen spruce
how did you know my kick was on F
because u are a trustworthy and correct gamer
warm vortex
but for stats
is it a safe bet to stick to mast crit
ik you got the like
!stats thing
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
drifting cloud
yeah
like you wouldnt want 0 haste, 0 vers assuming same ilvl
but you can get close to it
drifting cloud
no other way around, ilvl is usually better
keen spruce
i mean if you don't care about maxing all of that u can default to crit/mast and not feel bad
but yeah agi is all that really matters
especially rn when you're still gearing
robot will eventually want you to put some haste on your gear
sometimes it will want vers
but it's not gonna be a cataclysmic difference
warm vortex
yea my statrs rn
i started as playing pure sub
then went to sub/assa
now prolly gonna main assa but play sub if its better in a certain fight
keen spruce
yeah if you asked the robot it would probably move stuff out of vers
but it's not that big of a deal
drifting cloud
think I had like 16% crit before I got my queen ring
keen umbra
i feel like 4% haste feels bad. i need more to feel good
drifting cloud
didnt even notice because I never look at stats
keen spruce
i feel like 4% haste feels bad. i need more to feel good
you wil not feel haste
ever
drifting cloud
bfa remix soon
warm vortex
But yea
so i should just try stackinmg crit and mast
earnest remnant
didnt even notice because I never look at stats
same bro i just equip stuff
warm vortex
i sassume cause of the 100% crit rates you get from the hero tree
keen spruce
But yea
so i should just try stackinmg crit and mast
I mean "should" would be to sim and do what the robot says
but if you want to just stack crit mastery that's fine too
warm vortex
Yeye
i sim everything iget
like i have a bag full of loot
and i just use top gear a lot to make sure what i got on is good
earnest remnant
heard it here
unreal hatch
I got ara-kara from the great vault last week. Should I still take the spyglass this week? OR take the Trailspinner Pendant?
earnest remnant
this is bis stats
drifting cloud
thesedays its expensive to swap around jewelry better to just take dps hit
sturdy python
what trinkets do we like the most? I have transmitter and queens mandate and I kinda hate transmitter, it's simming the best but I have a feeling it's sim bait, idk... also on fights like ansurek I'd have to kill myself to do the task so I guess I should farm skardyn's (20 runs never seen it lol)
subtle cipher
ritual knife is simmim so high for me its insane
warm vortex
It seems super good
subtle cipher
looks like im uber mastery starved, any single bit of mastery sims a lot
balmy condor
ritual knife is simmim so high for me its insane
Very good trinket sims very high
subtle cipher
Very good trinket sims very high
i was using void reaper, and expected ritual to sim higher but not THIS higher
even candle simmim high af
dull cloak
does bubbling wax still not work on offhand
hallow pelican
doesnt really work anymore period (over 610 items)
dull cloak
it can be applied to high ilevel weapon now
sturdy python
so is bubbling again better than ironclaw for MH?
warm vortex
Why don't we just like
get the kingsbane poison
put it in a flask
and coat our daggers with it
bam perma kingsbane
balmy condor
doesnt really work anymore period (over 610 items)
It does but it probably still has issues
mild tiger
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warm vortex
Also looked at the opener for aoe, we cast rupture after bone spike? Does the combo point amount not matter for that or is it me misreadin
runic hinge
Bonespike is auto cast with rupture
runic hinge
If thereās at least 3 mobs youāll get 1,2,3 combo points and fill your bar back to 6 so you can cast rupture again
I hope that makes sense
Each bonespike will hit with a slight delay and give you another combo point for each one already out
So youāll get 6 points when you first press rupture
stark musk
If I have an item crafted with embellishied, can I somehow recraft it without it?
drifting cloud
you can yeah
stark musk
Help me out here, how do I take that out?https://overdue.rent/dLL2B
drifting cloud
or well you could in DF atleast with some other item, hope its still here
didnt have to do it myself yet
sturdy python
^ and prepare to pay for the mats again xd
stark musk
So when I use that, I get the same item, but without the embellishied, correct?
sturdy python
yeah