#assassination

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subtle cipher
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didnt knew

subtle cipher
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on some deep sites

spice spire
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Nah they just unleashed the demons already here

balmy condor
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So big…

spice spire
runic hinge
vale shore
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Queen Ansurek has been... De-feeted!

subtle cipher
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roman feet no

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not again

waxen oyster
subtle cipher
jaunty warren
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Subtle tats✅ Piercings ✅ dubious morals ✅ possibly homicidal ✅

runic hinge
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Damn she the one for me

spice spire
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All red flags (except the piercings)

subtle cipher
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all i want to ruin my life

spice spire
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The tats should not be subtle

clear chasm
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guys why do not we Clear the Witnesses after every Deathstalker mark with Vicious venoms specced?

balmy condor
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Mut better

spice spire
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It does less damage

balmy condor
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Buff a generator by 70% and it’s really good

spice spire
clear chasm
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Even with the combo points?

vast loom
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yup

slate crown
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I mean that's only like 32M gold

waxen oyster
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real chads only use it

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to go from 6 to 7 cp on st

spice spire
slate crown
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Hah no

spice spire
balmy condor
crisp pine
clear chasm
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Ty guys

slate crown
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15 I thought

balmy condor
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So the mut is doing more damage for more cp

barren island
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when you guys are missing a single cp to proc deathstalker again, you just garrote ( if not on pandemic ) or mut?

crisp pine
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Is it 15? I have no idea honestly

balmy condor
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Mut

haughty lantern
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FoK :3

stark scroll
waxen oyster
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15

stark scroll
waxen oyster
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18 canadian or whatever they call that fake currency

stark scroll
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gimme those feeeet

spice spire
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It’s canadese currency

vale shore
stark scroll
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what the fuck

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like there is ZERO REASON to show foot

slate crown
stark scroll
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ZERO

waxen oyster
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Wow going for inclusivity

balmy condor
stark scroll
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like even as a metaphor of how below these beings are in comparison to xalatah

subtle cipher
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hey whispyr, already saw the reddit post today?

spice spire
balmy condor
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Especially soles

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Are very disrespectful

spice spire
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I am so cooked

balmy condor
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In many cultures

stark scroll
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she could have shoes on

waxen oyster
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Need anduin soles next

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for equality

stark scroll
vale shore
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Xal'atath, dunken on characters left and right with her left and right

stark scroll
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now that is a literary device commonly used to put character beneath other characters

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show me anduins soles

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i will reroll alliance this isntant

balmy condor
subtle cipher
balmy condor
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Sorry for trying to explain something on the internet

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You just want to be weird about I guess

stark scroll
crisp pine
stark scroll
balmy condor
stark scroll
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wow that is a shit quality screenshot

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wtf

balmy condor
haughty lantern
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it's one of my favorites too RHlove

would you believe those pants don't go with that set?

stark scroll
balmy condor
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Yes

stark scroll
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I thought whispyr stopped taking iron wire because quake takes it

pliant remnant
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HIYA @balmy condor HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE ROGUE POST ON THE R/WOW SUBREDDIT ON REDDIT.COM?

balmy condor
runic hinge
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I hate r/wow. pretty sure those mfs aren’t even playing the same game as me

haughty lantern
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it's actually a subreddit dedicated to owen wilson

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WoW

unborn wharf
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in a 4 pack do u go garrote > garrote > rupture > and then CT or rupture for that 4th global? Is CT more important cause only 1 mob is not ruptured or something something scent of blood?

keen spruce
stark scroll
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there he is

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xala toes

keen spruce
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i think the scent stacks, regen, and rupture damage

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make it worth

stark scroll
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we were posting pictures of feet here

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earlier

keen spruce
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but probably not like super big deal

vale shore
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rogue feet, it was on topic

keen spruce
stark scroll
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I was trying to ping you but couldnt figure out your name

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xd

silk bane
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bro why are these screenshots so blurry

keen spruce
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@vale shore i ship this

silk bane
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or am i getting old

stark scroll
keen spruce
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wait

stark scroll
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lol

keen spruce
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that's the wrong picture

stark scroll
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never had this issue before

spice spire
silk bane
keen spruce
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where's my fucking xalaquack full picture

silk bane
spice spire
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Love Kyle

silk bane
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who doesnt

spice spire
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Reported

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Smited

keen spruce
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scana and shmeepy

spice spire
silk bane
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he never did that with me >:C

keen spruce
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aren't u in EU?

stark scroll
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damn thats a really sweet transmog

keen spruce
stark scroll
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where did he get that sword

cerulean maple
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Im ab to enter a raid so can someone answer this for me

haughty lantern
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Official shirt of the assassin channel

keen spruce
cerulean maple
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im 3/4 on tier piece, i could get a tier piece from my great vault but it would drop me 20 ilvl on that piece

cerulean maple
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should i get 4/4 but drop the ilvl or just stay with waht i have

keen spruce
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stay

somber sparrow
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just wait for a catalyst then

stark scroll
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ilvl more important IMO,

keen spruce
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u'll have catalyst for 4th tier

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and tier stinky

cerulean maple
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ok thanks guise

stark scroll
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np bro

balmy condor
vale shore
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I rupture a second time and then FOK to crimson tempest

unborn wharf
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thats what it felt like thanks boss

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CT before 2nd rupture feels wierd cause u have to find the rupture target ye

keen spruce
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i found it

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shmeepy and xalaquack prom photo

runic hinge
obtuse lance
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Lets say im 6/7 CPs and deathmark needs to be refreshed. SHould i spend a garrote to get max points or multilate?

balmy condor
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Mut

stark scroll
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Imagine my 616 vault items are all garbage

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I will cancel my sub and quit

vale shore
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I managed to get a 623 vault item, I just know its going to suck

runic hinge
upper wraith
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Hoping all my 623 items are good…

vale shore
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mistcaller ocarina

stark scroll
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I am at the point were I need a good 616 vault item or its just going to be a slow and steady raod

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road

spice spire
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It’s a skardyns

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I believe

balmy condor
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I got 3 myth m+ slots, a full set of max delve slots, 1 mythic raid slot, and 2 heroic slots

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It’s cooking

vale shore
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my trinkets right now are heroic Imperfect ascendency serum and detachable fang

open socket
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finally got rid of my fucking mistcaller with skarydns yesterday. biggest sigh of relief, done with grimmy b

silk bane
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bro max'd out his delves

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we found the mole people in question

stark scroll
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run zekvir ? 8 times

open socket
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it takes like 20 minutes to do 8 zekvirs

silk bane
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bros melvin cuz he do be lovin some delvin

stark scroll
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takes you maybe 30 minutes

tacit otter
gaunt meteor
vale shore
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Imperfect Ascendency Serum and Detachable Fang sim so well, I check the WoW head article and they are low tier trash

balmy condor
stark scroll
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not sure why that isnt already 97%

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make wa to track it if you dont have

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whispyr has a nice setup

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it yells at you and puts xalatah feet on screen when bleeds are expiring

vale shore
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really?

open socket
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not sure i'd ever press it if the feet show up

stark scroll
spice spire
gaunt meteor
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I might be messing up applications cuz the boss is flying around? But for sure I'll set up more obvious WA

iron valve
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that's a good point, it should only show you the feet if you're a good boy and keep your bleeds up

spice spire
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When you should have 2 per kb

cerulean walrus
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Shivving is mean okay?

frank condor
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also did not pot until 2:28 in the fight

spice spire
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The garrote time

stark scroll
frank condor
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also chugging thistle tea like its going out of style

spice spire
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Is actually a thing because it’s less energy

stark scroll
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so you know

gaunt meteor
stark scroll
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its hard to manage manually during bosses

runic hinge
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someone shiv me 6 times in 5 minutes irl

gaunt meteor
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okay yeah i am so bad at remembering second shiv

stark scroll
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I also set one up for kingsbane for shiv window

vale shore
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its weird because Shiv is traditionally a noun, the verb you use a shiv with is "shank"

cerulean walrus
royal lantern
open socket
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shunk

cerulean walrus
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Its still toxic blade to me

stark scroll
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shanketh

balmy condor
runic hinge
vale shore
cerulean walrus
gaunt meteor
vale shore
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we shank with shivs, we do not shiv with shanks

spice spire
echo heath
spice spire
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Whether dn or what

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That’s kind of a long time

keen spruce
spice spire
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Even with flying

keen spruce
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like "look here is knife"

balmy condor
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I’m moving to London and calling random people on the street mandem until I get jumped

keen spruce
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it's like "spear of bastion"

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but we get "prison wallet smuggled stabbing device"

cerulean walrus
spice spire
cerulean walrus
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Hiya!

spice spire
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Can’t say dm because that’s our major cd

vale shore
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yeah I just go hard fatebound, so much easier

cerulean walrus
stark scroll
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london is a cesspool

spice spire
delicate imp
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down time extended another hour lol

gaunt meteor
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oh sure yeah tbh i don't pay attention to that very much cuz it feels passive, i may have botched my opening ambush?

cerulean walrus
slate crown
coral ibex
stark scroll
vale shore
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British people will say an english accent sounds more educated and then spit out something like "Left-tenant" or "Bruv"

stark scroll
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they reworked trickster

frank condor
stark scroll
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added back carrot de grace

gaunt meteor
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okay yeah i'm gonna focus on garrote uptime and 2 shivs per KB, seems like highest impact

cerulean walrus
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Carrot de grace is blessed

balmy condor
stark scroll
iron glacier
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Yo, would you guys go 2x dawnthread or Ascension + nerub 2x embelishment?

frank condor
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or if the boss leaves for 10,000 years like ulgrax and your darkest night falls off...couldn't have happened to me dude nope

vale shore
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I went 2 dawnthreads on cloak and bracer

iron glacier
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Wrist + boots, crafting dagger with 636 next

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So dno if i’ll change embelish to that

stark scroll
gaunt meteor
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On a fight like brood since I can't stealth to get turbo DOT application am I supposed to be running around tagging everything with garrote on coolddown and the like?

stark scroll
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if dagger and one other equals true then nerub + ascension

frank condor
vale shore
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I use the M+ hybrid spec on broodtwister, saving my vanish spreads for egg break times and crimson tempesting

iron glacier
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And vise versa

gaunt meteor
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okay so just focus boss or prio add, do CT, and don't worry about garrote & rupture on everyone

frank condor
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you just fan as your buildier and pop mad caustic damage

gaunt meteor
silk bane
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@spice spire new xalafeet dropped ready?

iron glacier
vale shore
frank condor
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sin gasses out super hard if you try and multi dot beyond the opener

spice spire
silk bane
gaunt meteor
stark scroll
vale shore
robust river
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!restealth

prisma monolithBOT
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Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

  • Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
  • Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
  • Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
  • While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
  • You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
stark scroll
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you want to keep bracer and your belt with dawnthread

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the dagger is really a placeholder

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for the unlucky souls

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make a siphoning stilleto and tag whispyr

stark scroll
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he loves siphoning stilletos

spice spire
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I cannot

obtuse birch
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you need a crafted dagger for ascendency though right?

indigo ginkgo
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so any intel on why they change the uptime from 2h to just 1h on the Ironclaw Whetstone.

stark scroll
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and he would be very happy to see someone make a 636

near vale
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maintenence extended again

stark scroll
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so why recraft all

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when he is making a placeholder dagger

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he will want to end on regicide kukri

slate crown
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and thought it was silly to make the cost be imperfect null stones

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or 1.25 imperfect nullstones

near vale
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in higher tyrannical keys is ascendancy better than lining or nah

slate crown
indigo ginkgo
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the change this from sunday to monday,

iron glacier
stark scroll
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ascension would pull ahead

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probably

silk bane
near vale
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damn fr wtf

stark scroll
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but dawnthread is just so good in m+

near vale
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even lower keys fights take like 1min30 should i just use my 636 crest on ascendance dagger then

slate crown
stark scroll
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so its not a bad idea to make the dagger

silk bane
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im enjoying the game again

stark scroll
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as far as whats better between dawnlight and ascendance

slate crown
silk bane
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yea

stark scroll
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i think dawnlight would pull ahead

silk bane
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DH is super fun1

slate crown
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damn I should really give it a try

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I could make a pack for it

silk bane
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its kinda like sub if they werent trying to make every single thing in the tree a "friction" point

stark scroll
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How i think it works is like this

silk bane
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also tuned well

stark scroll
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say a fight takes 90 seconds

slate crown
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love friction its my favorite part

silk bane
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u should start designing sub then!

slate crown
silk bane
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its okay, surely 11.0.5

stark scroll
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1-40 dawnlight does more damage 40-90 ascendance does more damage, but dawnlight is pulling close to what ascendance pulls post 40 the entire time

silk bane
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surely the 3 sod charges do something

wise mist
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another hour maintenance extension

silk bane
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surely

stark scroll
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so you sacrifice 40 seconds of optimization

wise mist
stark scroll
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for a better later stage

stark scroll
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also probably need to consider what happens if you drop buff

near vale
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so does the advantage you gain on trash in m+ through dawnthread just make that the better go to option

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even though most boss fights ascendance would be better

stark scroll
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oh actually it takes 80 seconds

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fuck that shit

near vale
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looool

stark scroll
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dawnlinign op!

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I say this but I am using ascendance

iron valve
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solution, chain pull

stark scroll
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correct

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ok heres an idea

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double vanish

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ascendance

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chain pull

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entire dungeon

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still run iron wire

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🧑‍🍳

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👨‍🍳

strange python
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why did blizz nerf nexus princess so hard

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why ion

stark scroll
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because her knifes were to sharp

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next question

strange python
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all this prog down the drain

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when it goes from 300 pull boss to 30

near vale
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i forget do all keys past a certain point have tyrannical and fortified

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ya +10 nvm

boreal aurora
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Another hour maintenance ☠️

unborn wharf
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so just to be clear with vanish in keys, its usually lined up with deathmark still UNLESS you know a specific chain pull coming up in the next 2 minutes?

balmy condor
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It’s usually used for aoe

runic hinge
iron valve
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Cost aside, if you crafted two ascension daggers, would you get two different stat buffs or would it not stack?

balmy condor
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You don’t need to line it up with deathmark outside of bosses

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You’re gonna open from stealth anyway

strange python
lethal arrow
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just slam the vanish if ur tank pulls more mobs and you cant restealth

strange python
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but they also shouldntve nerfed it so hard

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just half of the nerfs wouldve been enough or maybe too much even

tranquil cobalt
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Did today's trinket tuning change anything for us?

balmy condor
unborn wharf
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ah ok ok so for "using it for aoe" is that like vanish after the applied garrotes/ruptures are falling off and they're still alive or just hold for chaining or how does that work?

lethal arrow
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either or

balmy condor
tranquil cobalt
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Thanks

lethal arrow
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just go off feel

unborn wharf
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ok gotcha cool

lethal arrow
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if you're like hmm this pack of 10 mobs isnt dying very fast and my bleeds fell off

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just vanish to reapply

unborn wharf
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do u guys hold vanish for specific use cases of bosses fading out or do u just prep Darkest night and thats a skill issue

lethal arrow
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depends

weak hemlock
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Hi,
anyone could help me out a bit? I think I am doing something wrong in my rotation on bigger packs:
I am doing the following:
From Stealth, Garrote until the whole pack has Garrote bleed then Rupture than Fan of Knives than Envenom than Crimson Tempest, Deathmark, Shiv and Kingsbane. Than fan of knives and envenom. Using vanish to reapply the bleeds/poisons and I am keeping Caustic Spatter up and Envenom.

lethal arrow
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mark can fall off on that boss easily if ur not paying attention

near vale
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they hotfixed that no?

heavy trail
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The biggest challenge for me is not the rotation, it's executing it and not messing up as you get punished a lot more than some other specs for it. Can shine then suck pretty fast if you are not on top of things.

chilly canopy
near vale
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p sure it pauses when she jumps now or im imagining shit

lethal arrow
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if it pauses thats news to me

unborn wharf
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i think its still on her but its ticking down no?

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thats what i recall on sob

near vale
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idk its a 30 second debuff and i feel like ive seen her come down with like 22 left

lethal arrow
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cuz i swear to god on my 10 run last week it fell off and the first jump

near vale
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and theres no way i killed those mobs in 8 seconds but maybe i am imagining shit

weak hemlock
eager tree
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not hunters mark

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deathstalker's mark

lethal arrow
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and just mutilate before spatter falls

weak hemlock
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Sorry, I missed some info, I am opening from Stealth via Ambush, than Garrote than Rupture than Slice and Dice.

heavy trail
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I find it a bit harder in pugs with the tank running ahead and sometimes he doens't have aggro and even if I am not attacking yet, I get ripped out of stealth and then "behind" unlike other specs that just get to go into damage mod without any setup haha

lethal arrow
heavy trail
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@weak hemlock You also need to assess how long the mobs you are working with will live, to determine what will be your best bet as goign into full bleed mode and they jsut die can be wasteful

unborn wharf
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if u accelerate ur opener to kingsbane after only spreading the garrotes and ruptures, do u prio CT or snd first (assuming snd is not active)

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in an aoe pack

balmy condor
hallow hedge
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Is ER still bugged with DM?

spice surge
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Nop

balmy condor
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No

hallow hedge
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thank god

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thank you

bleak plume
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anyone knows how to make a certain debuff bigger than others on plater?

charred obsidian
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was wondering about the bis trinkets shown in wowhead. we use an A tier trinket instead of broodsack or mad. Is that because it goes well with the other trinket?

balmy condor
bleak plume
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aw shucks

balmy condor
charred obsidian
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ah ok

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sweet

heavy trail
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So far only have one champion trinket it andn it's a C tier one lol. 😦

limber lion
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Snd always

runic hinge
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snd

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oops im slow

cerulean walrus
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Gotta start slicin and dicin

near vale
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if ur max combo points youd CT if you have a few snd cause you can just extend it no?

fallow marsh
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I too had a question about trinkets specific to using 2 on use trinkets and how that should be managed.

near vale
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but maybe i underestimate the important of snd being on immediately I am not that far into the theory stuff

stark yew
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Did the maint got extended again?

near vale
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yea 40 min

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12pm pdt

stark yew
grim jay
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ty na beta testers

stark yew
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btw been meaning to ask, kinda new to wow/rogue in general. But for spenders such as ct and rupture. Is 5 combo point and 7 combo point tick damage the same and only the duration is different?

limber lion
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Yes

stark yew
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Ah great

coral ibex
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isn't the new echoing reprimand supposed to improve rupture damage too

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or did i misread that patch note

spice spire
grim jay
spice spire
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I might

haughty lantern
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with his mouth

spice spire
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Ye and

grim jay
near vale
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kinda random anyone got the mount from stonevault?

balmy condor
fleet pagoda
grizzled geyser
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im a goon and have a question: if I'm fighting a pack of 5 mobs, they have no CT up atm but I have the darkest night proc and would have to send a full cp envenom for new marks, do I prio that envenom or do I send out a CT first?

coral ibex
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oh this is kinda confusing to read lol

haughty lantern
balmy condor
balmy condor
limber lion
balmy condor
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combo points deal equal damage

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you get the same benefit for 3->4cp that you do from 20->21cp

boreal lichen
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mythik 1 boss should i go crimson tempest for aoe or is caustic spatter enough ?

balmy condor
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cp are linear

stark yew
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But for envenom u do more instant damage with more cp right since its not a dot

balmy condor
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no

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I mean well yes you do more

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but if you cast 20cp worth of envenoms they do the same damage

stark yew
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ahh

balmy condor
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regardless of if that's 10 envenoms of 2cp or 4 envenoms of 5cp

stark yew
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Gotcha

coral ibex
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higher CP doesn't change the scaling

limber lion
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5cp + 7cp is the same as two 6cp finishers

vast loom
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has that ever not been true?

balmy condor
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no

vast loom
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wouldnt surprise me if that was something they experimented with at some point in time

balmy condor
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it's like that by design since combo points have been a thing

coral ibex
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env has always been a 5+ cp finisher

balmy condor
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cause it would be uber degenerate any other way

limber lion
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Well previously Envenom gave you 1s buff + combo points

coral ibex
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i already hate forcing 7cp for DN

limber lion
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So it was technically always better to finish with low cp

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To get that extra 1cp every time

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:-----)

coral ibex
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like when you get natty 6cp and have to mutilate again for 1cp

balmy condor
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that's not true though

limber lion
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(not really)

hexed root
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with the trinket tuning is bloodmallet still accurate/any updates to sin's prios?

limber lion
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Bloodmallet is always accurate

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They have live updates

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Once they get pushed to simc, Bloodmallet will also update

fleet coral
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can i go with ara kara or spyglass im so confused

limber lion
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Either is fine

coral ibex
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you should sim them

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and take the better simming trinket

fleet coral
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didn't get spyglass yet

stark yew
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Just summon the spyglass in sim

near vale
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oh yea that reminds me how tf do i get raidbots to use skardyns it wont use it until the last 30 sec of the fight

limber lion
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Huh?

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It works fine

fallow marsh
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Is two on use trinkets completely out the question? If not when would be the best time to use them, on cooldown?

limber lion
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Link a sim where it does that

vale shore
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my better simming trinkets are Imperfect ascendency serum and detachable fang, which are low-tier trash on the wowhead article!

near vale
#

lemme grab

vale shore
#

they sim better than everything but skardyns

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even at mythic ilvls

spice spire
#

626 is max for them

vale shore
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not for these

balmy condor
#

two on use is only acceptable if the second trinket is on-use damage like mandate

spice spire
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Is it not

balmy condor
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skardyns + transmitter for example would be braindead

vale shore
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my trinkets are 613 each and simming better than 623 sacbroods

spice spire
spice spire
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I mean

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They’re on the tier list that way because they max at 626

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They’re not that bad tbh

vale shore
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I hate the cast time on ascendancy serum

spice spire
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I had this talk early on with whispyr because was also confused

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I refused to play ascendency

coral ibex
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no shot i use a 1.5s cast time trinket as a melee

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ascend deez

spice spire
#

I might

vale shore
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it turns you into a horrible spider creature, that Xal can mind control

narrow marsh
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That’s what I do anyways cause it is annoying lol

spice spire
vale shore
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she will make you take off your shoes

empty saddle
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Ascendency blows, rise up funny transmitter

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do your tasks

near vale
toxic ice
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what the fuck

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why is sub performing so well in raids

coral ibex
runic hinge
keen spruce
coral ibex
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COLLECT OR STAND IN CIRCLE

balmy condor
spice spire
empty saddle
coral ibex
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i hear imexile's wa in my sleep now

spice spire
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I’m just saying

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Stonks

empty saddle
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tasks other than jump are miserable in raid tho

keen spruce
runic hinge
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tbh the pad is fine

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the ball is awful tho

empty saddle
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if you can find it xD

runic hinge
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when it goes staight through boss

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pad is always at 2 pm

spice spire
#

I can always find balls

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Dw

balmy condor
vale shore
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I just want to get my vault to collect my 623 mistcaller ocarina

empty saddle
#

bro fr

spice spire
empty saddle
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i just want to play the game i pay for xD

icy sable
#

it may be a dumb question but im kinda new to rogues, does critical chance work on bleeds and poisons?

coral ibex
#

4-5h maintenance after the race is so wack

runic hinge
#

I remember when wow was a 6 day a week game

icy sable
runic hinge
keen spruce
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oh that's why it's so busy in here

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maintenance time

spice spire
#

Yeah

empty saddle
spice spire
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They’ll post faults

runic hinge
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Na extendoed twice

spice spire
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Then scurry away

dense cloud
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been spending the whole fucking week trying to time 11 grim, im starting to have braindamage

fallow marsh
# balmy condor yes

Is this more of a personal thing with two on use trinkets or more because you can only maximize one with DM?

vale shore
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remember back in Legion where the BIS trinket came from the Devilsaur world quest?

keen spruce
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justa farm 9s

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get gear

runic hinge
keen spruce
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get io later

runic hinge
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better to have a passive option

vale shore
#

this season will go at least to january

balmy condor
dense cloud
dense cloud
vale shore
haughty lantern
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i was told february/march

vale shore
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we will still be raiding BRD then

fallow marsh
dense cloud
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someone also told me this season going until 2042

keen spruce
balmy condor
vale shore
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he races in the lego league, you gotta build during the race

dense cloud
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having dumb tank doesnt change nothing

keen spruce
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if you're exclusively an m+er why play with a dumb tank

coral ibex
#

whats your opinion on chain pulling kekw

dense cloud
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cuz aint got no prem

fallow marsh
vale shore
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I doubt it

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in equal amounts

cinder quartz
keen spruce
coral ibex
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iron wire is good but also being able to chain pull is a skill check

balmy condor
spice spire
#

Goat

keen spruce
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watchu pushin bud

balmy condor
#

transmitter is a small amount of haste with an agi on use, skardyns is a large amount of agi with a mastery on use

vale shore
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skardyns has no cast time or hoops to jump through either

cinder quartz
#

"guys what if we could cut 2 minutes of out of combat time from our key"
"no, i need to restealth"
PepeLazerREE

fallow marsh
keen viper
#

WHen do u recommend to use my first tempered potion ?

runic hinge
coral ibex
#

in your opener

runic hinge
#

the change to "yo can i get a summon"

keen viper
coral ibex
#

yes

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DM + trinket + potion

keen spruce
#

oh if you click a spanish twitch link

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it just makes your twitch spanish

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until you manually change itback

coral ibex
#

claro

keen spruce
waxen oyster
#

this is gold too

keen spruce
#

accurate

runic hinge
keen spruce
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i had many issues

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and also amoeba symbiote

waxen oyster
#

no

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but like what are you doing m+

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if not even remotely close to title

runic hinge
#

10's for gear mostly

waxen oyster
#

real

keen spruce
#

i mean if u eventually wanna get title u gotta practice somehow

keen viper
#

which trinkets do u prefer to use ?

cobalt sphinx
#

it's a fun challenge for smaller groups

runic hinge
#

No realms available at 2:47. yikes, extendo again maybe

vast loom
#

i try to do the bare minimum amount of M+ i need to do for gear lol

lethal arrow
subtle tundra
#

ive done keys for fun

waxen oyster
#

last time i found m+ “fun”

dense cloud
#

for me its I either go hardcore with m+ or I dont even play at all

waxen oyster
#

was legion

vast loom
#

keys are fun until they arnt

dense cloud
#

im too competitive

subtle tundra
#

doing slightly challenging content is nice

signal badger
#

Sin is fun in keys now

waxen oyster
#

every dungeon from sl onwards

subtle tundra
#

10s are piss
pushing world first is cancer

waxen oyster
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is complete dogshit

keen spruce
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why don't people use their toon name in discord so I can easily stalk their parses and io

dense cloud
#

farming gear is fucking aids as well from m+ aint gonna lie

waxen oyster
#

where legion sub

keen spruce
#

ok dr rectum

near vale
#

i liked df dungeons

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but i dont do super high keys so idk

subtle tundra
signal badger
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Hehe don’t look at mythic tho I’m a non-liver

vale shore
wary herald
#

How much worse are oils than stones?

keen spruce
signal badger
vale shore
#

the specialist of characters!

waxen oyster
#

ngl the worst part of m+ is being melee

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and knowing the ranged are just payphoning

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30 yds away

waxen oyster
#

0 mechanics ever

past panther
#

that’s why the stingers in Mists make me happy when they run them down

near vale
vale shore
#

ooof

cobalt sphinx
#

isn't ranged trash though

past panther
#

because then they’re at the mercy of the healers

keen spruce
past panther
#

ele shaman is good

limber lion
cobalt sphinx
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oh true i forgot shamans

past panther
#

fire and arcane mage good

waxen oyster
#

i love when ranged never stand close for charges

past panther
#

balance kinda ok

cobalt sphinx
#

mage is too hard to play, i haven't seen a good mage yet

waxen oyster
#

except to be terrorists

royal lantern
#

:3

runic hinge
#

:3

near vale
#

damn that rogue post on the subreddit top post rn wtf

waxen oyster
#

we need more bosses like fyrak

runic hinge
#

people hate rogue on r/wow

keen spruce
#

wow reddit MONKAS

waxen oyster
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that instant kill ranged early pullers

royal lantern
#

but yeha

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the brainlets brigade

near vale
#

oh is that you

#

LMAO

royal lantern
#

hm?

near vale
#

wait what

royal lantern
#

not the post lol

stark yew
near vale
#

ohh

near vale
stark yew
#

Ok time to sleep

subtle tundra
stark yew
#

Its already 4am

royal lantern
#

im just trying to explain some people in there why "no stealth = no dmg" is not true

stark yew
#

Fuck blizz

royal lantern
near vale
#

ah yea i see what you mean

cobalt sphinx
#

lol are you guys brigading that reddit post with your no stealth psyop

coral ibex
#

the nuance is lost on reddit

waxen oyster
#

i mean restealths matter more for the fotm players

balmy condor
#

it's not even nuance

waxen oyster
#

that crutch on IC

balmy condor
#

fundamental basics is lost on reddit

coral ibex
#

well the nuance of "its a 15% loss if you literally never stealth in a dungeon"

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and that realistically never happens lol

waxen oyster
#

Also someone made a very obvious point

gritty laurel
#

i like restealthing so i can sleep through the entire dungeon, but doing 1.2m+ dps and still only single chesting the key feels pretty shit

lethal arrow
#

just vanish

waxen oyster
#

if you hang back generally you can restealth

lethal arrow
runic hinge
#

Half the reddit comments start with "I haven't played since cata but...."

waxen oyster
#

as stragglers die

lethal arrow
#

ppl really bankin on restealths on every pull

near vale
#

tbf theres some high upvoted comments trying to explain it doesnt rly matter

balmy condor
#

yeh

#

every now and then there's a ray of sunshine

waxen oyster
#

ngl i only go on reddit

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to find some pirated leaks

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of foreign media

lethal arrow
#

a glimmer of hope

balmy condor
#

but reddit is a godless cesspool of morons

#

like if someone dm's me and says "I saw on reddit"

coral ibex
balmy condor
#

I immediately think less of that person

coral ibex
#

bc its literally that easy

lethal arrow
#

reddit said double vanish was good

coral ibex
#

kill straggler, stealth, shadowstep into pack

waxen oyster
balmy condor
#

it's impossible for me to not look down on reddit users

waxen oyster
#

isnt it a default setting

balmy condor
#

no sane human regularly visits r/wow

waxen oyster
#

to get enter/leave combat aura

coral ibex
lunar pond
#

I saw on reddit there are currently no realms available

waxen oyster
#

like you can restealth off a druid cyclone

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if hes not super attentive

wise whale
#

i saw on reddit maintenance extended

waxen oyster
#

to redo it or dot you

balmy condor
royal lantern
runic hinge
royal lantern
runic hinge
#

Basically they haven't played the game in 10+ years and have a very strong opinion on how the rogue class should play

waxen oyster
#

Although i did just learn last week

royal lantern
#

are you ready for the reset whisp?

runic hinge
#

Seeing comments about shadowdance

gritty laurel
#

well yeah, we should press SnD and auto attack until thing dead

#

anything else is heresy

waxen oyster
#

that wild charge has a delay so you can meld/vanish a feral’s leap

royal lantern
waxen oyster
#

and sap them on it

royal lantern
#

every.single.time

vale shore
runic hinge
#

RTB is super rng why would they do this

tired gull
#

guys i want to see my 1 m+ and 4 delve vault this is ridiculous let me in

errant swallow
royal lantern
#

you cant even reroll really, its a cd dracthyr_kek

white pumice
#

606 ara-kara trinket over 616 tier gloves? i got 0 tier atm

lethal arrow
#

no fucking way

waxen oyster
royal lantern
#

they still think RtB is a finisher like it is Legion

waxen oyster
#

when rtb got reworked 4 years ago

#

to not be a spender

royal lantern
#

when you just press it, and when the result is bad you press it again in the 15-20 sec when its rdy again

cobalt sphinx
#

i like restealthing personally

clever sapphire
#

would just take tier

cobalt sphinx
#

i think it is very helpful

spice spire
waxen oyster
#

do people not spam restealth

spice spire
#

But like

waxen oyster
#

whenever they can

spice spire
#

I don’t need it

waxen oyster
#

like people who complained about spiteful

#

stopping restealth

vale shore
#

oof that was the worst

waxen oyster
#

this was not the case unless they died staggered

royal lantern
waxen oyster
#

if all the mobs died together you could re

vale shore
#

my groups just ignored them and went on, it was completely ass

near vale
#

being perma stuck in combat in city of threads so have to use vanish if not nelf

#

happens every time i do that dungeon

vale shore
#

there is a spider under the surface who cant move but still aggro

near vale
#

zzzzz so annoying

waxen oyster
#

you could restealth with spiteful

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you had like 2 gcds

#

before ghosts put you in combat

keen spruce
#

I've typed and deleted like 12 responses to this reddit post and replies.
this is making my brain turn to tapioca pudding

near vale
#

delete your reddit account

#

oh wowhead nvm

#

lol

keen spruce
#

i'm not cloggin up my new reddit account post history on /wow

#

no i meant reddit

#

reddit gud for other interests

near vale
#

oh yea arguing with people on reddit is like the worst thing you can do

keen spruce
#

r/flying very gud subreddit

plush bronze
#

r/wow is a disaster anyway

keen spruce
#

yeah idk why i even looked up the post

#

i shoulda closed it when i saw the title

#

many good bois linking correct information

#

then people saying "WELL HE'S NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT SPREADING RUPTURES IS WAY MORE EFFICIENT IN IC"

waxen oyster
#

only wow reddit i look at sometimes

keen spruce
#

it's like... do you think that we all just overlooked that very obvious scenario

waxen oyster
#

is the transmog one for inspo

#

but its mostly fullsets

#

anyway

keen spruce
#

like the prime comparisson use case

waxen oyster
#

fullset easily obtainable gear is such an L

near vale
#

tried to find an arcane mage transmog on the transmog sub and the only good one i found was a fucking survival hunter cosplaying as an arcane mage all the actual arcane mogs suck

keen spruce
#

then like 4 more people are like " TrueTrue "

balmy condor
runic hinge
cerulean walrus
arctic socket
#

@balmy condor can you open my vault for me?

keen spruce
waxen oyster
#

i cant wait to see

#

8 cloaks

arctic socket
#

I don’t have internet to see what inside the vault 😦

waxen oyster
#

in my vault

#

its gonna be hot

cerulean walrus
#

Yeah but Whispyr what about the restealth Reddit post

arctic socket
#

Mint

balmy condor
spice spire
#

It isn’t even up

#

Get woke

runic hinge
waxen oyster
#

werent people bitching like 2 weeks ago

#

about tanks pulling too fast

#

in dungeons

near vale
#

that was heroic though

spice spire
near vale
#

cause theyd pull like half the dungeon in one go

#

lmao

spice spire
#

Parlaying delays

keen spruce
waxen oyster
#

yeah i mean

spice spire
#

Is incredible

keen spruce
#

the answer is always yes

runic hinge
#

I mean betting on extended maitnence is free money

prisma laurel
#

omfg how many times are they gonna keep knocking the time back for relams

waxen oyster
#

i did stonevault in 4 pulls

near vale
#

loool

spice spire
#

I know it’s not real

#

But lmfao

waxen oyster
#

cry about it healer

runic hinge
haughty lantern
#

holy shit i just got home. did maint really get extended another hour???

crimson wigeon
#

!restealth

prisma monolithBOT
#

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

  • Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
  • Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
  • Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
  • While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
  • You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
balmy condor
#

that's 2 hours

spice spire
#

Two more hours

#

Duck

#

Fuck

balmy condor
#

we'll keep a counter in chat

#

+2

arctic socket
#

Whispyr

balmy condor
#

no

arctic socket
#

Why is restealth not important?

keen spruce
balmy condor
#

idk a guy smarter than me said so

arctic socket
balmy condor
spice spire
#

This guy

gritty laurel
#

rupture should just be an aura around me that applies to all enemies automatically

arctic socket
prisma laurel
spice spire
#

He’s almost so based

arctic socket
#

Sims are baited

keen spruce
#

he has yellow name now

#

it tracks

balmy condor
keen spruce
limber lion
#

huh

arctic socket
keen spruce
#

wh OMEGAKEKW t

balmy condor
waxen oyster
#

Has someone asked whispyr about double vanish

#

today

arctic socket
prisma laurel
balmy condor
gritty laurel
#

does double vanish make me invisible to stealth-detecting mobs?

keen spruce
arctic socket
#

Whispyr did some new lore about you drop or is homie trolling you

runic hinge
#

troll for sure

balmy condor
#

he's something

limber lion
#

He probably clicked his profile

vestal wren
#

so, is the meta now 2x vanish?

limber lion
#

And saw his banner

#

And is now fiending away

runic hinge
limber lion
runic hinge
#

we iron wire for days, improved garrote only cast

arctic socket
balmy condor
arctic socket
vestal wren
keen spruce
cobalt sphinx
#

stealth bad vanish bad fatebound good

runic hinge
sonic zinc
#

iron wire so strong, they gonna make it DR 🙂

runic hinge
#

I'll make sure of it

limber lion
runic hinge
prisma laurel
vestal wren
#

what did he do?

arctic socket
#

Drop the lore

limber lion
#

Anyways

keen spruce
#

can we just get rid of cuzzo

limber lion
#

What do

balmy condor
keen spruce
#

bad troll

limber lion
#

I'm tired but I wanna game but I'm also bored so idk what to game

#

What a dilemma

#

Do I send the energy drink and slave away in Grim Batol

arctic socket
#

No

limber lion
#

fuck

arctic socket
#

Just grind transmitter n mad at herbs

#

Queens

vestal wren
grim jay
balmy condor
#

more grim batol cev

runic basin
#

Guys, are you asking your tank before a key if he be so kind to let you stealth between pulls?

balmy condor
#

no

prisma laurel
limber lion
#

I'm a casual andy nowadays