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quiet oar
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one has to be said

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FUCK THESE XALATATHS ORBS

round nexus
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Like the big tree's in beginning of mists have 150 mill ~~ on 11, and 200 mill on 12. But you don't get any affix buff either.

quiet oar
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Ye

round nexus
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It's like everything melts on 11, but in 12 things just doesnt die

spice spire
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Sounds like an average 8 pug SmileDog

quiet oar
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God

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i hate this weeks affix

round nexus
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I need to farm some GB for trinket

quiet oar
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its so bad

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they literally just didnt care at all

nova aspen
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idk how some of these pugs even time 8s and 9s doing less damage than the tank

quiet oar
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I feel very bad

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when i do Tank dps on ST fight

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but without big cds

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it can be like that

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(and when you fucked your Deathmark up :)))))))) )

nova aspen
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this is why i dont like to tank

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because half the groups im the top dps

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as a tank

round nexus
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that's frustrating

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I feel like i can hard carry most 8 keys at this point

spring moat
round nexus
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yes, i've got around 2550 rating now so it's not a problem anymore

quiet oar
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@spice spire Btw are you proud of me, i open with garrote, have no Deathstalker mark waiting for vanish to come up and instant garroting and gain no Deathstalker mark

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Im a good sinner boi

round nexus
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double timed several GB 8, would be cool with a triple ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

quiet oar
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I love having no Deathstalker mark for several Minutes because im dumb Classic

nova aspen
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GB feels like it needs some timer love

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my group can wipe twice in ara and still time a 10

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but one wipe and u've failed GB

pliant remnant
quiet oar
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Read my statement above

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my monke brain

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uses vanish into garrote

pliant remnant
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I think you should read your statement above

quiet oar
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Ye im dum dum Classic

round nexus
quiet oar
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Ill just play Fatebound

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i cant fuck up fatebound Okay

pliant remnant
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I have a feeling you still don't get what I'm being meme pedantic about

pliant remnant
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I made one for myself in like 2 minutes

royal lantern
round nexus
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Solve all rotational issues you keep having with WA's ๐Ÿ˜„

quiet oar
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I have a weakaura

pliant remnant
quiet oar
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But muscle memory

quiet oar
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fixed

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i mean

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who thought Deathstalker Mark and Deathmark

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is a great naming

pliant remnant
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kek yeh

placid rivet
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Sac brood better than spyglass at max?

royal lantern
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or forced Max CP is a good idea

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or that all the other talents are a good idea

gentle gyro
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ok easy

quiet oar
vestal wren
quiet oar
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maybe i swap to fatebound

royal lantern
quiet oar
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gonna sim it later

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how much difference it makes

brisk path
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guys, what AoE opener is better?

Bush -> Gar -> Rup -> Rup -> Gar -> CT -> Mut

or

Bush -> Gar -> Rup -> Rup -> Gar -> Mut -> CT
?

latent crown
static glacier
static glacier
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main problem is aoe, the extra crit on fan is unmatched, deal fate ain't as good for aoe

round nexus
static glacier
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i think sin is more a case of have a goal in mind and react to context to achieve it, not a hard scripted opener kinda spec

brisk path
static glacier
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situations like having cps from last pack can change the opener to rup > rup or gar > rup or gar > gar

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same thing with number of enemies

gentle gyro
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fight takes longer but becomes doable

quiet oar
brisk path
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do we do CT on 5+ or 6+?

calm grail
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2+

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I heard

young dust
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How good is it on tww to still focus in versa for survivability?

gentle gyro
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your damage will suffer

young dust
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11/12s are wrecking me

blazing pumice
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vers won't fix that

gentle gyro
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^

calm grail
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My question is - My first raid as sin is tomorrow. How do we AOE in raid? Caustic spatter? Multi-dot if they live long enough?

left loom
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with black jack talent if someone breaks blind that limited dmg taken 30% already kicking in ?

young dust
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Damn

gentle gyro
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sounds more like a kick/cc issue

blazing pumice
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vers is very low returns for the amount of stat it eats up

young dust
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avoidance isnt doing anything at all

blazing pumice
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in terms of dr

round nexus
quiet oar
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for the choice node

young dust
quiet oar
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which name i forgot

pliant remnant
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Elusiveness

quiet oar
gentle gyro
quiet oar
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ye

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elusiveness

blazing pumice
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yes, you need more ilvl and stam

pliant remnant
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Elu is big

blazing pumice
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genuinely trying to push keys atm is a massive waste of time

young dust
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the overlap in viq'goth with slam and choking waters is so nasty

blazing pumice
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you're no where near what the ilvl will be in 4 weeks time

quiet oar
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how often does this happen

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the overlap

whole mason
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!whispyr

round nexus
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We have no where near the actual gear requirement of doing 12 and up

gentle gyro
young dust
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I also try to preemptively cloak if i see that the dot is coming at me

quiet oar
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Ye

whole mason
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!Whispyr

quiet oar
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precloak prolly a play

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im still mad

young dust
round nexus
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solved.

quiet oar
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im still mad

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that evasion cant dodge the slam

calm grail
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Will indiscriminate carnage target adds without bleeds when spreading them? Like is it "Smart"

deep gyro
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Just feint it?

gentle gyro
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we got feint for that

young dust
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cloak works on 2nd boss ricochet btw

deep gyro
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U can evade the ricochet if ur lucky

quiet oar
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and i acted as bot for a moment

blazing pumice
young dust
deep gyro
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I think ive hit evasion for it

calm grail
quiet oar
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Ye i know that we have feint for the slam

blazing pumice
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yes, but not as efficiently

calm grail
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I assume so with this line.

quiet oar
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But i would love some niche interactions with evasion

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evasion is off gcd

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and no energy

blazing pumice
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because one is being lost to the main target if they already have the bleed

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on a 4 or 5 pack pull it doesn't matter

young dust
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don't evasion that swing

quiet oar
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that is magic

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can clearly see it

young dust
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its physical

round nexus
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cloak doesnt work yea

young dust
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nothing works

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just run

quiet oar
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WHAT IF

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Its Phsyical

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plus magic

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and you need to use both

normal mist
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Just meld

round nexus
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does that work?

quiet oar
normal mist
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A bunch of targeted abilities will either cancel or redirect to another player if you vanish/meld

round nexus
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i have a night elf waiting for me at home ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

gentle gyro
arctic venture
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guys what is the item name to make sockets on neck?

quiet oar
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BTW

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Guys

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Grim batol first boss

latent crown
young dust
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but for real, have you guys found any evasion interactions like the one with whirling blades in CoS for example?

round nexus
young dust
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!evasion

normal mist
quiet oar
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When you vanish/Meld with the brown circle

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it just disappears

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you dont drop it or smth

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it just disappears

royal lantern
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BUT

gentle gyro
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WHAT

royal lantern
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on deathstalker, evasion is a bigtime deffenssive anyway

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cus like

normal mist
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Yeah

royal lantern
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in keys you play elusivness anyway, which is flat 20%

normal mist
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The things a player learns from testing stuff

royal lantern
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and deathstalker gives another 20% magic dr on evasion

arctic venture
quiet oar
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oh

young dust
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@balmy condor would be lit to have an !evasion in the disc with all the tricks for the raid/dungeons

quiet oar
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Evasion gives 20% magic DR

royal lantern
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you should be pressing evasion regardless dracthyr_kek

round nexus
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If you like to step in shit, you dont play elusivness

quiet oar
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Well

normal mist
royal lantern
quiet oar
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i should have read the Hero talents

young dust
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the vomit?

quiet oar
royal lantern
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yes

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the vomit

young dust
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you're trying to kill me arent you

royal lantern
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when he targets you

gentle gyro
royal lantern
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for some reason, you can ddoge it with evasion

round nexus
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I love the consistency

royal lantern
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WW monks are basically 100% immune to that because of their slowly stacking dodge chance

young dust
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what about the vermins he spawns, is that cloak or evasion

quiet oar
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and document it

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!atro

prisma monolithBOT
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Atrophic poison in Raid: link

quiet oar
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Like this

royal lantern
quiet oar
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as example

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someone needs to maintain it

round nexus
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Is there a command for list of commands?

quiet oar
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.!help

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i thin

young dust
nova aspen
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actually a command for a list of commands is a pretty good idea

young dust
spring linden
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guys for broodtwister, prog we do want more crit than haste right? i dont know which secondaries to farm

normal mist
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There are people reading the commands, and then asking anyway... So idk

viral spire
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We still tea last 6 secs of kb ye?

normal mist
spring linden
normal mist
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Then you want to sim

viral spire
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Then when tea Shrug

spring linden
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how do i sim brood, like haste value still up with millions of adds?

trail locust
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@ebon notch do you wanna garrote 1 2 3 or somethging else

spice surge
young dust
spice surge
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So if you cloak like 3 seconds before it wont work Surebud

nova aspen
quiet oar
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Oh man

normal mist
quiet oar
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Explaining that cloak isn full immunity the whole duration

spice surge
young dust
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my group completely destroys the parasites with 2 frost 2 fury, so i dont even bother

quiet oar
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Also applied for sarkareth holes

spice surge
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I didnt know that, but it doesnt surprise me at all

quiet oar
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You could run over them

bitter trout
ebon notch
quiet oar
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for the first seconds

spice surge
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All i remember is explaining that it worked on odyn runes

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Only with the first second thing

trail locust
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ive been looking everywhere for this info

young dust
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can someone confirm that evasion works on fiery ricochet?

normal mist
trail locust
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but i dunno rogue resources are kinda ba

young dust
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I'll start a spreadsheet for me and share it

quiet oar
quiet oar
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Its the same for last boss grim batol

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if you cloak right before the debuffs

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you dont get it

bitter trout
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Some things I think I should be able to cloak and I can I wanna scream

quiet oar
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but if cloak is already on for few seconds

bitter trout
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Like fear in SoB

quiet oar
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you get it

bitter trout
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cus it's physical

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rip

spice surge
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Does it target other targets with the debuff in GB

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If youre immune

quiet oar
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no

royal lantern
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@quiet oar kekman

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run #39 incomming

young dust
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Oh, another interaction for you guys

royal lantern
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this time, i can feel it

viral spire
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SKARDYNSGRACE AAAA

young dust
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if you cloak molten spark on GB you dont drop a pool on the ground

quiet oar
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I pressed cloak to clear tentacles and "got" the debuff and it just wasnt there

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so i preimmuned

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you can cloak when you have the debuff

spice surge
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Yeye

quiet oar
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and it gets removed

bitter trout
quiet oar
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But only

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the empowered thingy prevents the debuff to apply

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just need to time it properly

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i guess

bitter trout
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Skill issue Tira

keen viper
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Do u have macros for stealth and echoing reprimant to reduce the buttons pressed?

young dust
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my only macro is pot and skardyn on deathmark

quiet oar
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love my tryan feelsloveman

young dust
quiet oar
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?

bitter trout
young dust
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amazing trinket

quiet oar
young dust
quiet oar
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Ill just get skardyn in my vault

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npnp

bitter trout
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I have a 636 crafted sword

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RIP BOZO ME

spice surge
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Atleast its not an int dagger kek

quiet oar
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I crafted my Dagger

calm grail
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Do people just bind the trinket to deathmark?

quiet oar
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and recrafted it

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and saved 90 gilded crest

spice surge
bitter trout
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Feel free to take potion out of there depending on the fight

calm grail
spice surge
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if you recraft it, can you upgrade your offhand for free? Hmm

young dust
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LF gilded crests cap pepehands

quiet oar
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Its a bug eleem

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I crafted my dagger without embelishment

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because i already had two

bitter trout
quiet oar
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and recrafted for prog to ascenssion

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and that counts as "two" 636 daggers

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same for ring

spice surge
bitter trout
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TIRA BUG ABUSING

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REPORT HIM

quiet oar
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so i can "freely" upgrade my other weapons

bitter trout
quiet oar
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Its legit a bug you can use by accident !?

bitter trout
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I'm sending this to the blizzard police

quiet oar
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Also

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It cost me

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thousands of golds

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to recraft

bitter trout
young dust
bitter trout
subtle tundra
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i will accidentally recraft my weapon

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cause its so huge if true

quiet oar
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Its true

subtle tundra
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im on it

quiet oar
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it didnt cost me gilded crest to upgrade my myth fist weapon

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and i only had this one 636 dagger

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BUT

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i wouldtn expect them to fix this bug

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with a hotfix not

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i think when this will be fixed is a stealth fix

calm grail
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Does clear the witnesses proc when you spend max cps for longest night?

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Since you're reapplying marks

spice surge
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Yep

calm grail
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And even in ST that's chill to use (without vic. venoms). Cool.

quiet oar
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Eleem how is your ovinax prog

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or did you kill it

spice surge
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Painful & No

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Surely we kill tonight

sage shoal
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!tricks

prisma monolithBOT
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Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
quiet oar
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Surely right?

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What could go wrong ?

young dust
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probably nerfs inc next week(?)

calm grail
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So with a single shiv charge like most M+ builds use, do you pop it before or for the last 8 seconds of KB?

young dust
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@quiet oar did you have a noticeable difference with ascension in prog?

quiet oar
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Nah not really

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I think the base rng

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Is higher than the difference between embelishments

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So cant really Tell

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But it Sims better so kekdog

subtle tundra
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then im bing chilling

normal mist
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If I parse 99 and my team doesn't have a warrior nor a monk, does it mean I would parse 100 with their class buffs/debuffs? Heheheh

subtle tundra
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kinda depends

normal mist
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(yeah my raid team does not cover all the class buffs)

subtle tundra
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99 -> 100 can be 300k dps even

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esp if theres a lot of logs

normal mist
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Yeah it was a joke question honestly, not expecting to get 100 ever LOL

subtle tundra
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100 means being the very best

tepid lichen
hushed elbow
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On Bloodbound Horror when attackign the ads in down phase, can we cleave off of the boss or do we need to hard swap to ads?

subtle tundra
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on hc no
on mythic yes

hushed elbow
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yes to hard swapping?

subtle tundra
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yes

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you hard swap, you cant cleave

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spatter doesnt hit

hushed elbow
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I got a 79 parse on mythic fight and a 11 parse on boss damage

subtle tundra
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yes its worse for dps to swap

tepid lichen
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better to just hit the stacked adds for parse

subtle tundra
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not really

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unless you can giga pad

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with spatter

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youre better off just hitting boss

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(for parse)

hushed elbow
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my guild is progging so we're holding cds for adds- I assume this is why my boss dam parse is such shit

subtle tundra
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but i dont care about parsing. if we wipe on that boss cause we didnt kill adds and i was tunneling boss i just wasted my guilds time

calm grail
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I'm looking at logs and I'm trying to figure out why people use Caustic on some bosses and internal on others. Like Rashanan is almost all internal and some of the ST bosses use caustic.

subtle tundra
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thats way more important than better parse

calm grail
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Is this because of movement?

thorn fjord
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I grey parsed our bloodbound kill ๐Ÿ˜›

subtle tundra
sonic schooner
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Some People just forgot to swap talents

spice surge
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@subtle tundra VAR check on the dagger thing. Is it true

subtle tundra
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uh not denying nor confirming

tepid lichen
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most of the top logs have 15-25% total damage done to adds guess they are just hitting boss madmancryinglaugh

subtle tundra
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lets just say i need a mythic dagger asap

calm grail
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Just trying to suss out why.

spice surge
subtle tundra
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some people forget to swap

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and just play caustic all the way

tepid lichen
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tfw 51% of damage done to adds on my mythic bloodbound parse MONKERS

subtle tundra
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and yes you can top parse without playing internal bleeding

subtle tundra
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fyi

calm grail
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On fights like bloodbound, you're rupturing all the adds right?

royal lantern
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eh

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even on our first kill, the 2 stacked adds died so fast

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that building up cp to rupture both feelt like a waste

calm grail
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But you're still using FoK to gen I assume?

young dust
calm grail
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I haven't raided Sin since legion. I assume that's the same.

hushed elbow
young dust
hushed elbow
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if im missing a critical interaction I need to know hahah

young dust
tall jay
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is this good? or should i trade it?

thorn fjord
stray fox
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Trade it to me bro

hushed elbow
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i disenchanted mine

spring briar
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!guides

young dust
indigo elk
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!craft

prisma monolithBOT
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Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

somber sparrow
dusk fox
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does anyone have a ToT focus macro?

normal mist
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!tricks

prisma monolithBOT
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Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
hushed elbow
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what does this do? put it on the tanks?

dusk fox
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thanks, srry didnt know that had a command.

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you set your tank as focus and then use this macro and it will tricks to them.

pastel onyx
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U dont put anyone as focus

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Just import wa

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And make a macro with this command

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And just press it

late kestrel
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anyone have a good kingsbane timer weakaura? trying to practice timings

thorn fjord
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
thorn fjord
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LE has a good one

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Check out his collection

ashen rover
spice spire
stone pumice
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So, is assassination just insanely good in dungeons? I've just hit max level and pulling some insane numbers for my IL in dungeons and on dummies

I thought it was messed up scaling while levelling but it's still pretty crazy

real ivy
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
spice surge
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Assa is really good in dungeons yes

stark scroll
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if you not pulling top dps you doing something wrong

stone pumice
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Well, I haven't lost yet...

subtle tundra
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Just do what casualaddict was doing, swap to sub for the situations where assa is bad

stark scroll
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We'd win.

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Yeah I swapped sub for raid last night

subtle tundra
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L

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Stay bad

stark scroll
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top DPS on ansurek

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first time sub ever

subtle tundra
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Mythic?

stark scroll
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kek

waxen oyster
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your warriors afk then

stark scroll
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I was fighting for my life

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We did 31 pulls I beat the warriors once

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which means

stark scroll
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HAHAAHAH

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Its like an insurmountable wave

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You dominate them on first burst rotation then they slowly creep up on you

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then you dominate again then slowly creep up again

waxen oyster
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well yeah furyโ€™s st is not good

stark scroll
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its like cancer

waxen oyster
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theyโ€™re there to burst adds

stark scroll
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We have one arms warrior and one fury

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arms was top dps

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but he is cracked

waxen oyster
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yeah i meant fury

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fury st is terrible

stark scroll
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yup

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our fury doesnt have gear either and was still top 4

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we are at like 38.5%

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soon ansurek will die

late kestrel
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potentially stupid question - im struggling with single target. I'm thinking its mostly because I'm not hitting kingsbane correctly. When looking at spell breakdown, what should be my top abilities in details on a single target pull (m+ bleed build)?

drifting light
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well, if its m+ then most of the time it will look like this

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i mean, not 100% like this, as the % goes, but more or less :-]

late kestrel
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say on a boss though - kingsbane im guessing is a lot higher than that?

drifting light
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and this for example was a boss fight

late kestrel
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ah thank u!

twin plume
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!craft

prisma monolithBOT
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Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

waxen oyster
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thatโ€™s also hybrid

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bleed build doesnt do as much with kb

drifting light
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yea, m+ build tho but single target boss fight

waxen oyster
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bleed has less poison talents

orchid pewter
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Bleed build does poopoo st damage

waxen oyster
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which in turn means smaller kbs

late kestrel
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im not doing high keys on assassination yet so I haven't been running hybrid

orchid pewter
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Hybrid gets a bit better on the single target end

late kestrel
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that makes sense

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might try hybrid out

waxen oyster
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depends on key level

potent raven
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Guys

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is there anything else i can drop besides shiv for iw

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feels so fucking uncomfortable to play 1 shiv

late kestrel
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also 1 shiv u pop it at last 8 secs of kingsbane right?

potent raven
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yeah

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ofc

willow wren
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I was looking at mythic broodtwister logs why do most of em do a 4cp rupture in the opener instead of mutilating (They aren't specced into shrouded suffocation)

potent raven
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its just not comfortable idk im so used to 2 shivs but iw is masive

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u gotta apply rupture regardless

potent raven
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i think

willow wren
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but isnt the entire opening deathmark

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gonna have a pissbaby rupture then

coral ibex
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rupture ticks grant energy, energy in the opener is good right?

vast loom
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dmg per tick doesnt change per combo point

willow wren
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oh also hello twin long time no see

vast loom
willow wren
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Makes sense ty

vast loom
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im in here a lot lol

willow wren
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I'm not in here a lot

potent raven
#

nah bro playing 1 shiv

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so fckign bad gosh

royal lantern
#

mate, you overthink its like crazy lol

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you just slam it on cd

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thats it

potent raven
#

koldera told me i overthink it too LOL

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i just hate it idk hy

zenith prairie
#

Is quicksim in raid bots based off of a dungeon slice?

royal lantern
#

its based off what you put in

arctic socket
#

Must been nice to sim

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dusty skiff
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
lucid horizon
#

!sims

prisma monolithBOT
minor finch
#

Man itโ€™s my first time really playing rogue and Iโ€™m having a blast

slim pebble
#

Okay, why does vicious venoms feel so bad to play

arctic socket
#

It doesnโ€™t

slim pebble
#

I am probably just washed or misunderstanding something

dapper cradle
#

would we play twist the knife in the .5 patch?

arctic socket
spice surge
shy pecan
spice surge
#

Probably check back closer to when the patch is released for more accurate info

dapper cradle
#

would be sick to have those giga KB ramp

#

windows

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what would we drop for it, though?

arctic socket
#

Canโ€™t say that since we donโ€™t know yet

dapper cradle
#

i'd like you to try at least

arctic socket
#

The talent left of the tree towards the middle bottom

dapper cradle
#

dropping kingsbane HOLY

south prawn
#

any1 got advice for ST with m+ build? I try to maintain evenom buff as much as I can but i struggle when i have to refresh my bleeds + maintain evenom

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I feel like my ST is a bit lacking

spice surge
#

Theres probably things you could improve on, but in the end assa ST isnt great

south prawn
#

ye im just tryna improve as much as possible so that i aint a liability

slim pebble
#

Well I am within 40k of an unbuffed 5 min target dummy sim so maybe im not completely washed

noble jackal
#

Can anyone link their breakdown from a key, sm1 who plays a good rogue? ;D

chilly canopy
#

ah darn im out

south prawn
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

crude anvil
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
slim pebble
#

If we land on animacharged after one mutilate do we chill and cast envenom during pandemic or mutilate again

crude anvil
#

what are people crafting with their third spark?

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I thought bracers but idk if thats worth

arctic socket
#

What ever your character needs

thorn fjord
#

Still short on Gilded

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Havent crafted shit

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Should be able to do both shortly after reset

#

we got Thrall navigation before we got GTA6

stark scroll
#

lol

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wtf

woven shore
cinder parrot
#

Did they patch bubbling wax on weapons?

dapper cradle
#

super sick change

onyx linden
lunar pond
#

No luck on dagger from mythic or vault so I just said fuck it

stark scroll
prisma monolithBOT
#

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

  • If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
  • If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
stark scroll
bronze rain
#

!sheet

prisma monolithBOT
stark scroll
#

I am apparently fucking awful at the game

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lmfao

still steeple
#

are u guys swapping any talents on fortified/tyrannical weeks?

stark scroll
#

hahahahaha

lunar pond
woven shore
woven shore
stark scroll
#

leave me alone

woven shore
#

@lusty bane
Ambush on prio
Garrot garrot garrot on +9 enemys double rapture
ER ,Muti, fan, envenom , mark, shiv tea kb
Fan ct ?

onyx linden
median flicker
#

Shit would still die to fast

cinder parrot
#

!wax

prisma monolithBOT
#

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

  • If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
  • If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
onyx linden
# woven shore How do you open

step in, garrote 1-2 times depending on cps, double rupture, garrote until all no targets left or 6s expired. Muti for spatter and send cds

woven shore
arctic socket
#

You ainโ€™t go no wars etc

woven shore
#

Because my guild is not really pulling mobs together

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I dont know

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Sometimes i even have to swap targets and use sprint and step ...

stark scroll
#

My raid logs dont show up

woven shore
#

Go on ranking

stark scroll
#

my mythic + logs are all 50-60%

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is that bad lol

woven shore
#

Its okay

stark scroll
#

i mean im only like 606

arctic socket
#

Itโ€™s mythic

#

You wonโ€™t parse good on mythic until you get it on farm

#

Are your heroic parses 95+?

stark scroll
#

Never done heroic

#

i assume you mean raid

arctic socket
stark scroll
#

I will try to get in one tonight

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You think they let 606 in?

#

I thought you need 610 for heroic

arctic socket
#

You have mythic logs

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Oh nvm

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M+

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Iโ€™m cooked

stark scroll
#

LOL

arctic socket
stark scroll
#

You were like

arctic socket
#

Ignore everything I said

stark scroll
#

lol

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lets restart then

stark scroll
#

warcraft logs made me feel bad about myself

arctic socket
#

Honestly I never log any of my m+ runs if youโ€™re over like 1.2m probably fine

steep gust
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
stark scroll
#

how do i conistently end M+ 1bill+ overall damage nobody near me but i am shit

arctic socket
#

Idk if m+ logs matter

stark scroll
#

probably not

onyx linden
stark scroll
#

gotcha

onyx linden
#

so if you do a +7 or wtv

stark scroll
#

ty for explaining sir

arctic socket
#

These are my crappy m+ logs

stark scroll
#

that would be why my highest % is ara kara

stark scroll
#

Rogue friends saved my ego

lunar pond
#

Assume kills logged is number of keys timed?

arctic socket
#

Someone one up my heroic logs

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And explain to me how to parse first boss

woven shore
#

What the fuck

#

โ˜ ๏ธ

lunar pond
nova aspen
stark scroll
woven shore
#

I really have a problem playing with splatter

#

Shit dies WAY too fast

stark scroll
#

and that one ups you

#

my guild is at 38.5%

arctic socket
#

I have the kill on it

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Just didnโ€™t log it

woven shore
#

M+ logs ass
Raid logs okay

arctic socket
#

Whatโ€™s okay

woven shore
arctic socket
woven shore
#

My heroic logs

stark scroll
#

THE RACE TO TOP HEROIC LOGS

normal mist
arctic socket
#

Trying to aoe pad with warriors

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And paladin

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Donโ€™t work

stark scroll
#

(class wise)

#

Just related to the difficulty of dungeon

normal mist
#

Yeah it has to do with key level

stark scroll
#

And time and shit

normal mist
#

Yeah

stark scroll
#

I thought me scoring 30% meant I couldnt play my class

normal mist
#

Na man you're a fucking beast

stark scroll
arctic socket
#

Log in

nova aspen
woven shore
#

Jesus

nova aspen
#

its possible

#

u also need to get a 2nd deathmark window

#

i think

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my guild doesnt pump so i get one

arctic socket
#

Yeah you saw our kill log

#

Our timer is 3:45

onyx linden
#

Nah spatter isn't even worth running on first boss heroic

arctic socket
#

It is if you group is slow dps

onyx linden
#

without spatter

nova aspen
#

it probably isnt worth it yea

#

internal on 1st 4 bosses

deep gyro
#

If only i didnt have terrorists on princess

arctic socket
#

Fuck princess

#

If you get a beam or a portal on you

#

Rip parse

spice spire
#

Wdym

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You have step

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and sprint

#

Like itโ€™s nothing

#

Weโ€™re pooling so much anyway

thorn fjord
#

Getting any mechanic in this raid feels like a RIP Parse

woven shore
#

True

onyx linden
#

Yeah but that sick auto attack dps

static glacier
#

just confirming does cloak not work on last boss grim batol tentacles

onyx linden
#

our best hero talent is auto attack

earnest remnant
arctic socket
#

Auto damage does go hard

spice spire
static glacier
#

since you can't cloak out of them but if you pre-cloak you can soak?

spice spire
#

Yes

thorn fjord
#

You can cloak to clear them

static glacier
#

shitshow fight ngl

woven shore
#

I had a fight on Princess were i had like 980k dps and then i had portals fml

arctic socket
woven shore
#

Then wiped byebye

static glacier
#

id rather cloak to clear circle

spice spire
#

Why not both

static glacier
#

but i guess i can do tendies

stark scroll
#

here is my competition

spice spire
arctic socket
#

Circles?

static glacier
#

the abyssal corruption during shadow gale

stark scroll
#

I WILL DEFEAT THEM

spice spire
#

Yeah like the circles during gale

solid venture
#

We posting parses out here?

arctic socket
#

Bro outting the guild homie

thorn fjord
#

Heroic parses OMEGAKEKW

stark scroll
#

and three demon hunters

woven shore
earnest remnant
#

dude

#

you just dont get it

woven shore
#

Thanks for making me feel bad

deep gyro
#

The other rogue in my guild was defeated so i feel that!

arctic socket
spice spire
arctic socket
#

Parse up

thorn fjord
thorn fjord
arctic socket
earnest remnant
#

my hc parses look great

arctic socket
#

Shit rogue

jaunty warren
#

Looks at my parsesโ€ฆdecides to let the trash panda play my toon

earnest remnant
#

that lil week 1 sub parse in there

arctic socket
#

Whereโ€™s you parses at

#

All locked in hidden

solid venture
#

Private log hc kekw

earnest remnant
#

all of our guild logs are set to private

arctic socket
#

Itโ€™s stealthi they might

thorn fjord
#

REVEL IN MY MIDOCRITY

arctic socket
#

wtf is that

#

Bro reroll

#

That brood parse

#

Makes me depressed

thorn fjord
#

Should parse well tomorrow

arctic socket
#

Suuuuuure

thorn fjord
#

But heroic dont matter anyway

arctic socket
#

Yeah it does

static glacier
arctic socket
#

Ye it matters

vast loom
#

heroic parses matter cuz how else am i gonna stroke my ego

static glacier
#

hc parses are just speed kills no?

placid rivet
#

Heroic parse is a joke what

arctic socket
#

Naw it matters

#

Get all them pinks up

placid rivet
#

To you it does lmao

static glacier
#

if you get dopamine sure, but idk no one i talk to cares about anything other than mythic

stark scroll
#

this rogue isnt even in our discord

#

toxic

earnest remnant
arctic socket
#

Imma play a fire mage in mythic

noble jackal
arctic socket
#

So I can parse high

thorn fjord
#

Play Feral

#

๐Ÿ˜›

placid rivet
nova aspen
#

nah nah bros, normal parse is where the true talent lies

static glacier
#

im losing the will to continue

earnest remnant
#

lfr parses

static glacier
#

it just won't drop

earnest remnant
#

is the real shit

nova aspen
#

ye ye

#

those are all target dummy parses

#

a true test of your rotation

static glacier
#

i don't need to test it, I know it's shit xd

earnest remnant
#

also for some reason my guild hasent logged any heroic runs we have done since week 1 of HC

thorn fjord
#

LMAO

static glacier
#

issue is logs make people play suboptimally

nova aspen
spice spire
nova aspen
#

u logged normal??

static glacier
#

if people play to parse they will greed / play mechanics like clowns

thorn fjord
#

Our kill times are botched anyway

thorn fjord
earnest remnant
thorn fjord
#

Guess not Sadga

#

This tier I've given no fucks about parses tbh

#

After Swift and Fyraak i just want bosses dead

#

to just move on with my life

nova aspen
#

im in a casual aotc guild, i just want the gear

#

to slam keys

#

ima key gamer

thorn fjord
#

Swift really killed my mental

drifting cloud
#

I got bad news for you dieslow

earnest remnant
#

ive never really given to much thought into parsing

#

i just play

drifting cloud
#

actually maybe for you the aura will just hard carry

spice spire
earnest remnant
#

and then it happens when it happens

drifting cloud
#

but rn this raid harder than amirdrassil kekdog

#

other than v1.0 tindral

shut oak
#

Whats the range on Indiscriminate Carnage? It doesnt seem to work all the time when enemies are right beside each other

thorn fjord
#

I dont see any of these fights being as hard as Swift was imo

shut oak
spice spire
#

Thatโ€™s why it kinda sucks on rashanan

spice spire
#

Queen looks v easy

nova aspen
#

this raid is horrible compared to older raids

thorn fjord
#

Queen looks pretty wild but it'll calm down by the time we get to her

earnest remnant
#

last 3 are pretty close to what tindral was

#

(after the first set of nerfs to him)

nova aspen
#

i loved nighthold

spice spire
#

Ovinax + yeah

drifting cloud
#

court might farm lower wr guilds

spice spire
#

So last 4

drifting cloud
#

its just top10 make it look "easy"

thorn fjord
#

First 3 fights were pretty easy tho

earnest remnant
#

ovinax is not hard

#

boss just has too much health

spice spire
#

First 4 are easy

drifting cloud
#

kyveza hopefully gets nerfed again in the next 8h

spice spire
#

You going princess, princess?

nova aspen
#

ky veza is such a cool fight tho

thorn fjord
#

Going out of town this week so i'll miss first 2 boss reclears and third boss kill ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

drifting cloud
#

yeah so cool to play 1 tank and limited amount of melee and you get executed on 10%

steel ridge
#

do we have a list what funnel back via singular focus and what doesnt?

nova aspen
#

well obviously it was not intended to 1 tank the fight kek

steel ridge
#

iirc it was buffed from 3 to 5% because some damage sources got blacklisted?

nova aspen
#

i just like the rift succs

tired gull
drifting cloud
#

damn quake was typing that one

spice spire
slim pebble
#

Does anyone know how close arterial and tiny toxic blade is?

spice spire
#

Without simming no lol

woeful meteor
#

not getting pulled off is hard smile

rotund oak
#

yup i just got the heroic neck,its kinda waste not to socket it since odds are i wont raid at all this tier

#

also most of my keys ended up in complete tragedy

#

most tanks just randomly pull anything,overcap and die or kill the group

#

today was total facepalm ngl

haughty lantern
#

i am so confused

sudden brook
#

If your guild does a lot of aoe, you deal less aoe damage

keen spruce
languid pier
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
rotund oak
#

@normal mist i miss already being a human ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

normal mist
#

you'll miss even more

rotund oak
#

i will fight this season tooth 'n' nail

#

idc

normal mist
#

race changing for dps will never be something i'll do. Looking good is forever, numbers are irrelevant

fallen arch
normal mist
fallen arch
rotund oak
#

whorezilla

calm grail
normal mist
fallen arch
#

To what did u change though?

glacial scroll
#

I wanted to ask if anyone had any tips on two things in particular:

  1. How to easily tell what target has deathstalker when there are a giant grouping of mobs and I am trying to efficiently spread dots, how can I easily swap to the one that currently has it or be aware enough to see?

  2. How to not let auto attacks break my deathstalker application. The worst case scenario of this is in City of Threads first boss. I know I can carry over from a previous pull, but what about after a wipe? Sometimes I'll miss it the first time around (whether I accidentally garrote first instead of ambush), or I will vanish mid combat, but an auto attack will seem to land first and I am screwed.

Any tips would be appreciated

rotund oak
#

(and the xtra agility that comes with them)

grim jay
thorn fjord
grim jay
#

but again, shouldnt happen either way

normal mist
#

but now

keen elk
normal mist
#

can your mechawhateverthatis, look this cool:

rotund oak
#

no

#

dont torture me man

fallen arch
grim jay
calm grail
#

I had to add about a thousand debuffs to my plater blacklist to stop them from being 2 rows thick

thorn fjord
#

My cow mogs are the best

fallen arch
normal mist
glacial scroll
glacial scroll
fallen arch
#

What head is this?

grim jay
normal mist
#

FOR THE OGs

calm grail
#

I wanna drop my sick male dwarf for a stacked human. Screw Stoneform.

grim jay
indigo mulch
#

!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
#

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

  • For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
  • For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

bright surge
grim jay
#

the duskblade model is

normal mist
#

:C

grim jay
#

idk I think they are ugly

#

and dont fit the same

normal mist
#

there is no theme

grim jay
#

duskblade naturally fits too well

normal mist
#

that was what every 2005 rogue wanted to look like

#

perdiction + bloodfang

grim jay
#

poor 2005 rogues

#

those are ugly beyond salvation

spice spire
normal mist
#

Nightblade tho

grim jay
#

nightblade are hands down the best daggers

#

even if everyone has them by now

normal mist
#

if they do

grim jay
calm grail
#

i miss my fucking clown suit from BC

#

Ahhh old WoW.

normal mist
#

they spent a good chunk of gold

spice spire
normal mist
#

bcs they are still super expensive

sour mist
#

Anyone know of an addon that lets me filter debuffs n shit on enemy nameplates but keeping the blizzard ui?

#

Plater is cancer

grim jay
#

i dont even know how much I paid back then

#

but it was quite something

normal mist
grim jay
#

I think thats less than I played back then

tawny bloom
#

hello, is there a way to change platers deathmark to vendetta icon?

grim jay
#

which means its way less bcs inflation

dire slate
#

Yo. Do you guys spread your bleeds on more than 5-6 targets in huge packs? ๐Ÿ™‚

glacial scroll
hearty reef
#

chat i saw it