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Like the big tree's in beginning of mists have 150 mill ~~ on 11, and 200 mill on 12. But you don't get any affix buff either.
Ye
It's like everything melts on 11, but in 12 things just doesnt die
Sounds like an average 8 pug 
I need to farm some GB for trinket
I feel very bad
when i do Tank dps on ST fight
but without big cds
it can be like that
(and when you fucked your Deathmark up :)))))))) )
You get accepted? I wait with five ques pending and time out or decline
yes, i've got around 2550 rating now so it's not a problem anymore
@spice spire Btw are you proud of me, i open with garrote, have no Deathstalker mark waiting for vanish to come up and instant garroting and gain no Deathstalker mark

Im a good sinner boi
double timed several GB 8, would be cool with a triple ๐ฎ
I love having no Deathstalker mark for several Minutes because im dumb 
GB feels like it needs some timer love
my group can wipe twice in ara and still time a 10
but one wipe and u've failed GB
What do you mean, it comes up every 2 minutes no matter what you do

I think you should read your statement above
Ye im dum dum 
Fix it with WA, big icon with ambush in the middle of screen that triggers on vanish if deathmark is missing and you have no darkest night
I have a feeling you still don't get what I'm being meme pedantic about
And yeh, this
I made one for myself in like 2 minutes
thats why i play imp.garrote
Maybe
Solve all rotational issues you keep having with WA's ๐
You meant Deathstalker's Mark, not Deathmark 
But muscle memory
oh
fixed
i mean
who thought Deathstalker Mark and Deathmark
is a great naming
kek yeh
Sac brood better than spyglass at max?
the same guy that thought it beeing applied trought ambush in stealth is a good idea
or forced Max CP is a good idea
or that all the other talents are a good idea

ok easy
Ye idk deathstalker is kinda meh
congrats
maybe i swap to fatebound
and fatebound has a 0,5% usage rate 
guys, what AoE opener is better?
Bush -> Gar -> Rup -> Rup -> Gar -> CT -> Mut
or
Bush -> Gar -> Rup -> Rup -> Gar -> Mut -> CT
?
how the hell did you do that as assass?
2nd bc first would have you using ct on 3 cp
it's quite competitive tbh, I played it a bunch
main problem is aoe, the extra crit on fan is unmatched, deal fate ain't as good for aoe
Isnt the one made by Whispyr on wowhead the best opener, if there's enough targets
i think sin is more a case of have a goal in mind and react to context to achieve it, not a hard scripted opener kinda spec
yea, that is why I am asking, because seond one feels better
situations like having cps from last pack can change the opener to rup > rup or gar > rup or gar > gar
same thing with number of enemies

I decided to kick the spittles I had nothing for and let him heal instead, it's only 10% hp
fight takes longer but becomes doable
Im just build different, playing Deathstalker wihtout PLAYING the Deathstalker
do we do CT on 5+ or 6+?
How good is it on tww to still focus in versa for survivability?
your damage will suffer
11/12s are wrecking me
vers won't fix that
^
My question is - My first raid as sin is tomorrow. How do we AOE in raid? Caustic spatter? Multi-dot if they live long enough?
with black jack talent if someone breaks blind that limited dmg taken 30% already kicking in ?
Damn
sounds more like a kick/cc issue
vers is very low returns for the amount of stat it eats up
avoidance isnt doing anything at all
in terms of dr
the best thing is to play hero class without hero class abilities yes.
Like stitchflesh and forgetting to ambush when he comes down ๐ ๐
Taking out Cheat is a good thing
for the choice node
im talking specifically about bosses, if im able to survive just a single tick more from boralus that would be enough
which name i forgot
Elusiveness

heavily depends on how much aoe your raid has. I basically stopped going CT in all fights and Caustic Spatter in most because I get close to zero value out of them
yes, you need more ilvl and stam
Elu is big
genuinely trying to push keys atm is a massive waste of time
the overlap in viq'goth with slam and choking waters is so nasty
you're no where near what the ilvl will be in 4 weeks time
!whispyr
We have no where near the actual gear requirement of doing 12 and up
some people like the challenge
I also try to preemptively cloak if i see that the dot is coming at me
Ye
!Whispyr
not only i like the challenge, i also pug groups, so its best to stay ahead to get invited
change to dwarf every boralus
solved.
the forbidden gif
Will indiscriminate carnage target adds without bleeds when spreading them? Like is it "Smart"
Just feint it?
we got feint for that
cloak works on 2nd boss ricochet btw
U can evade the ricochet if ur lucky
Someone posted the command
and i acted as bot for a moment
the other 2 bleeds are, the first will hit your current target
shadowstepping?
I think ive hit evasion for it
But I can spam the main target and it'll spread?
Ye i know that we have feint for the slam
yes, but not as efficiently
I assume so with this line.
But i would love some niche interactions with evasion
evasion is off gcd
and no energy
because one is being lost to the main target if they already have the bleed
on a 4 or 5 pack pull it doesn't matter
I already tested it for you in NW add before 2nd boss
don't evasion that swing
cloak doesnt work yea
Just meld
does that work?
Im alway melting when i see yo
A bunch of targeted abilities will either cancel or redirect to another player if you vanish/meld
i have a night elf waiting for me at home ๐ ๐
forgot to mention this:
this talent works on the poison debuff, so if you ever get it it lasts shorter. you can survive it with smart usage of brann potions and / or healing pots
guys what is the item name to make sockets on neck?
oooh that makes a lot of sense
but for real, have you guys found any evasion interactions like the one with whirling blades in CoS for example?
search for setting
!evasion
Magni something. Just open the AH and type magni
When you vanish/Meld with the brown circle
it just disappears
you dont drop it or smth
it just disappears
you can use evasion on the first boss in necrotic wake frontal
BUT
WHAT
Yeah
in keys you play elusivness anyway, which is flat 20%
The things a player learns from testing stuff
and deathstalker gives another 20% magic dr on evasion
thx mate.
oh
@balmy condor would be lit to have an !evasion in the disc with all the tricks for the raid/dungeons
Evasion gives 20% magic DR
you should be pressing evasion regardless 
If you like to step in shit, you dont play elusivness
Well
In EU they are like 11k each ATM(?)
bait&switch mate lol
i should have read the Hero talents
the vomit?

you're trying to kill me arent you
when he targets you
you will have to pry my cheat death from my cold, dead hands. that i don't have cause I live on 3% hp
until i run something higher than a 10
for some reason, you can ddoge it with evasion
I love the consistency
WW monks are basically 100% immune to that because of their slowly stacking dodge chance
what about the vermins he spawns, is that cloak or evasion
Someone would need to maintain it
and document it
!atro
Like this
thats "you kill them or CC before they hit anyone"
Is there a command for list of commands?
so weird because cloak works as well
actually a command for a list of commands is a pretty good idea
yeah i wouldnt have asked half of my questions if there was
guys for broodtwister, prog we do want more crit than haste right? i dont know which secondaries to farm
There are people reading the commands, and then asking anyway... So idk
We still tea last 6 secs of kb ye?
You want ilvl
No
im aware of that, im optimizing
Then you want to sim
Then when tea 
how do i sim brood, like haste value still up with millions of adds?
@ebon notch do you wanna garrote 1 2 3 or somethging else
Only "empowered" cloak, aka the first second of it works iirc
wont make much of a difference, I've tried several setups for talents and trinkets, depends on your comp...if you lack damage on boss then crit/queen's mandate
So if you cloak like 3 seconds before it wont work 
u only tea with shiv
Tea during shiv windows when it gives you 100 energy so you can spam more
Also applies to sikran aoe 
my group completely destroys the parasites with 2 frost 2 fury, so i dont even bother
I didnt know that, but it doesnt surprise me at all
You could run over them
It should be smh
shiv exsang the deathmark
for the first seconds
All i remember is explaining that it worked on odyn runes
Only with the first second thing
okay thanks
ive been looking everywhere for this info
can someone confirm that evasion works on fiery ricochet?
Your stats optimization won't make a difference. Maybe your talents will depending if you need AoE or not
but i dunno rogue resources are kinda ba
I'll start a spreadsheet for me and share it
nah cloak gets weaker
OH
Its the same for last boss grim batol
if you cloak right before the debuffs
you dont get it
Some things I think I should be able to cloak and I can I wanna scream
but if cloak is already on for few seconds
Like fear in SoB
you get it
no
Oh, another interaction for you guys
this time, i can feel it
SKARDYNSGRACE AAAA
if you cloak molten spark on GB you dont drop a pool on the ground
I pressed cloak to clear tentacles and "got" the debuff and it just wasnt there
so i preimmuned
you can cloak when you have the debuff
Yeye
and it gets removed

But only
the empowered thingy prevents the debuff to apply
just need to time it properly
i guess
Skill issue Tira
Do u have macros for stealth and echoing reprimant to reduce the buttons pressed?
Not really
No...
my only macro is pot and skardyn on deathmark
We have the same trinkets, so close are we bestie
love my tryan 
holy mother of sacs
amazing trinket
Sacbrood not even 639 
tell that to his skardyns 
I literally wasted 90 crests as well
I have a 636 crafted sword
RIP BOZO ME

Atleast its not an int dagger 
I crafted my Dagger
Do people just bind the trinket to deathmark?
Ye
Huh
Feel free to take potion out of there depending on the fight
Is the trinket fairly rare?
if you recraft it, can you upgrade your offhand for free? 
LF gilded crests cap 
6 attempts it took me?
and recrafted for prog to ascenssion
and that counts as "two" 636 daggers
same for ring

so i can "freely" upgrade my other weapons

Its legit a bug you can use by accident !?
I'm sending this to the blizzard police

why didnt you tell me that last week?
thanks for the tip
i will accidentally recraft my weapon
cause its so huge if true
Its true
im on it
it didnt cost me gilded crest to upgrade my myth fist weapon
and i only had this one 636 dagger
BUT
i wouldtn expect them to fix this bug
with a hotfix not
i think when this will be fixed is a stealth fix
Does clear the witnesses proc when you spend max cps for longest night?
Since you're reapplying marks
Yep
And even in ST that's chill to use (without vic. venoms). Cool.
!tricks
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
Painful sums it up for us as well
probably nerfs inc next week(?)
So with a single shiv charge like most M+ builds use, do you pop it before or for the last 8 seconds of KB?
after
so you dont lose a gcd
i wish i had a ring as well to accidentaly embellish it
@quiet oar did you have a noticeable difference with ascension in prog?
Nah not really
I think the base rng
Is higher than the difference between embelishments
So cant really Tell
But it Sims better so 
ty youre goated now i need a hc/mythic dagger to drop
then im bing chilling
If I parse 99 and my team doesn't have a warrior nor a monk, does it mean I would parse 100 with their class buffs/debuffs? Heheheh
kinda depends
(yeah my raid team does not cover all the class buffs)
Yeah it was a joke question honestly, not expecting to get 100 ever LOL
100 means being the very best
if only they had some sort of scroll which could give you the buffs, perhaps at a slightly lesser degree... that would be so cool
On Bloodbound Horror when attackign the ads in down phase, can we cleave off of the boss or do we need to hard swap to ads?
on hc no
on mythic yes
yes to hard swapping?
I got a 79 parse on mythic fight and a 11 parse on boss damage
yes its worse for dps to swap
better to just hit the stacked adds for parse
not really
unless you can giga pad
with spatter
youre better off just hitting boss
(for parse)
my guild is progging so we're holding cds for adds- I assume this is why my boss dam parse is such shit
but i dont care about parsing. if we wipe on that boss cause we didnt kill adds and i was tunneling boss i just wasted my guilds time
I'm looking at logs and I'm trying to figure out why people use Caustic on some bosses and internal on others. Like Rashanan is almost all internal and some of the ST bosses use caustic.
thats way more important than better parse
Is this because of movement?
Like a true chad
I grey parsed our bloodbound kill ๐
rashanan hc -> adds die instantly
Some People just forgot to swap talents
@subtle tundra VAR check on the dagger thing. Is it true
uh not denying nor confirming
most of the top logs have 15-25% total damage done to adds guess they are just hitting boss 
lets just say i need a mythic dagger asap
Which makes sense, but on some other fights without adds, I see top parsers using caustic.
Just trying to suss out why.

yea to explain this
some people forget to swap
and just play caustic all the way
tfw 51% of damage done to adds on my mythic bloodbound parse 
and yes you can top parse without playing internal bleeding
On fights like bloodbound, you're rupturing all the adds right?
eh
even on our first kill, the 2 stacked adds died so fast
that building up cp to rupture both feelt like a waste
But you're still using FoK to gen I assume?
hey, it all comes down to killing the boss at the moment, you'll get your parses later
I haven't raided Sin since legion. I assume that's the same.
im more than happy with a 79 parse with my guilds setup, we're a progging guild. I more would like to improve my gameplay with the boss so I can better support the guild ya know
depends on how quickly they're dying on your comp
if im missing a critical interaction I need to know hahah
at the moment our critical interaction is not to miss the atrophic poison button in the rotation

is this good? or should i trade it?

Trade it to me bro
i disenchanted mine
!guides
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
i like it very much
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
one of the best trinkets against bosses
does anyone have a ToT focus macro?
!tricks
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
what does this do? put it on the tanks?
thanks, srry didnt know that had a command.
you set your tank as focus and then use this macro and it will tricks to them.
U dont put anyone as focus
Just import wa
And make a macro with this command
And just press it
anyone have a good kingsbane timer weakaura? trying to practice timings
!wa
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Iโm also built different (worse)
So, is assassination just insanely good in dungeons? I've just hit max level and pulling some insane numbers for my IL in dungeons and on dummies
I thought it was messed up scaling while levelling but it's still pretty crazy
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Assa is really good in dungeons yes
Yeah its very good
if you not pulling top dps you doing something wrong
Well, I haven't lost yet...
Just do what casualaddict was doing, swap to sub for the situations where assa is bad
Mythic?
kek
your warriors afk then
I WAS
HAHAAHAH
Its like an insurmountable wave
You dominate them on first burst rotation then they slowly creep up on you
then you dominate again then slowly creep up again
well yeah furyโs st is not good
its like cancer
theyโre there to burst adds
yup
our fury doesnt have gear either and was still top 4
we are at like 38.5%
soon ansurek will die
potentially stupid question - im struggling with single target. I'm thinking its mostly because I'm not hitting kingsbane correctly. When looking at spell breakdown, what should be my top abilities in details on a single target pull (m+ bleed build)?
well, if its m+ then most of the time it will look like this
i mean, not 100% like this, as the % goes, but more or less :-]
say on a boss though - kingsbane im guessing is a lot higher than that?
and this for example was a boss fight
ah thank u!
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
yea, m+ build tho but single target boss fight
bleed has less poison talents
Bleed build does poopoo st damage
which in turn means smaller kbs
im not doing high keys on assassination yet so I haven't been running hybrid
Hybrid gets a bit better on the single target end
depends on key level
Guys
is there anything else i can drop besides shiv for iw
feels so fucking uncomfortable to play 1 shiv
also 1 shiv u pop it at last 8 secs of kingsbane right?
I was looking at mythic broodtwister logs why do most of em do a 4cp rupture in the opener instead of mutilating (They aren't specced into shrouded suffocation)
its just not comfortable idk im so used to 2 shivs but iw is masive
u gotta apply rupture regardless
To ramp up faster
i think
rupture ticks grant energy, energy in the opener is good right?
dmg per tick doesnt change per combo point
oh also hello twin long time no see

Makes sense ty
im in here a lot lol
I'm not in here a lot
Is quicksim in raid bots based off of a dungeon slice?
its based off what you put in
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!sims
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
Man itโs my first time really playing rogue and Iโm having a blast
Okay, why does vicious venoms feel so bad to play
It doesnโt
I am probably just washed or misunderstanding something
would we play twist the knife in the .5 patch?
Just get less washed
Probably? Hard to tell currently because its not fully working on the ptr (so its not working in simc either)
It just costs a little more. Thatโs all 
Probably check back closer to when the patch is released for more accurate info
sadge, appreciate the update ๐
would be sick to have those giga KB ramp
windows
what would we drop for it, though?
Canโt say that since we donโt know yet
i'd like you to try at least
The talent left of the tree towards the middle bottom
dropping kingsbane 
any1 got advice for ST with m+ build? I try to maintain evenom buff as much as I can but i struggle when i have to refresh my bleeds + maintain evenom
I feel like my ST is a bit lacking
Yep thats how it is
Theres probably things you could improve on, but in the end assa ST isnt great
ye im just tryna improve as much as possible so that i aint a liability
Well I am within 40k of an unbuffed 5 min target dummy sim so maybe im not completely washed
Can anyone link their breakdown from a key, sm1 who plays a good rogue? ;D
ah darn im out
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
eh, probs the ussual "you can drop it" stuff
imp. poison/1x vicious venoms etc....
If we land on animacharged after one mutilate do we chill and cast envenom during pandemic or mutilate again
what are people crafting with their third spark?
I thought bracers but idk if thats worth
What ever your character needs
Still short on Gilded
Havent crafted shit
Should be able to do both shortly after reset
we got Thrall navigation before we got GTA6
Can someone check a log of mine and tell me on what i could improve?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/yunetsumago
Did they patch bubbling wax on weapons?
super sick change
Here's a +10 NW 1.7m overall
I made belt/bracers dawnthread and dagger no embellishment all @636
No luck on dagger from mythic or vault so I just said fuck it
!wax
Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:
- If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
- If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
lol i just checked mine for first time
!sheet
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
are u guys swapping any talents on fortified/tyrannical weeks?
hahahahaha
Comp?
What you got
How do you open
@lusty bane
Ambush on prio
Garrot garrot garrot on +9 enemys double rapture
ER ,Muti, fan, envenom , mark, shiv tea kb
Fan ct ?
Prot paladin, enh sham, frost dk, sin rogue, resto sham
Shit would still die to fast
!wax
Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:
- If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
- If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
step in, garrote 1-2 times depending on cps, double rupture, garrote until all no targets left or 6s expired. Muti for spatter and send cds
Wym
How is your brood damage so low
You ainโt go no wars etc
Because my guild is not really pulling mobs together
I dont know
Sometimes i even have to swap targets and use sprint and step ...
I guess I dont understand what these parses tell us
My raid logs dont show up
Go on ranking
Its okay
i mean im only like 606
Itโs mythic
You wonโt parse good on mythic until you get it on farm
Are your heroic parses 95+?
Okay
Ye
I will try to get in one tonight
You think they let 606 in?
I thought you need 610 for heroic
LOL

You were like
Ignore everything I said
is this bad lol
warcraft logs made me feel bad about myself
Honestly I never log any of my m+ runs if youโre over like 1.2m probably fine
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how do i conistently end M+ 1bill+ overall damage nobody near me but i am shit
Idk if m+ logs matter
probably not
m+ logs is based off of pts gained, not dps
gotcha
so if you do a +7 or wtv
ty for explaining sir
These are my crappy m+ logs
that would be why my highest % is ara kara
@normal mist
Rogue friends saved my ego
Assume kills logged is number of keys timed?
Kill it before food is a thing
get lucky with spatter padding on intermission
congrats
so do you just need to beat ansurek
and that one ups you
my guild is at 38.5%
M+ logs ass
Raid logs okay
Whatโs okay

Thatโs impossible
THE RACE TO TOP HEROIC LOGS
How come
apparently mythic + dungeon logs % dont have to do with you being good or not
(class wise)
Just related to the difficulty of dungeon
Yeah it has to do with key level
And time and shit
Yeah
I thought me scoring 30% meant I couldnt play my class
Na man you're a fucking beast
thanks dad
Jesus
its possible
u also need to get a 2nd deathmark window
i think
my guild doesnt pump so i get one
It is if you group is slow dps
without spatter
If only i didnt have terrorists on princess
Wdym
You have step
and sprint
Like itโs nothing
Weโre pooling so much anyway
Getting any mechanic in this raid feels like a RIP Parse
True
Yeah but that sick auto attack dps
just confirming does cloak not work on last boss grim batol tentacles
our best hero talent is auto attack

Auto damage does go hard
It definitely works on tendies
since you can't cloak out of them but if you pre-cloak you can soak?
Yes
You can cloak to clear them
shitshow fight ngl
I had a fight on Princess were i had like 980k dps and then i had portals fml
If you pop it then run into tentacle it will clear them, but you canโt cloak if you get hit by one
Then wiped byebye
id rather cloak to clear circle
Why not both
but i guess i can do tendies
here is my competition

Circles?
the abyssal corruption during shadow gale
I WILL DEFEAT THEM
Yeah like the circles during gale
We posting parses out here?
Bro outting the guild homie
Heroic parses 
and three demon hunters
Jesus
nah 1 mech and it joever
dude
you just dont get it
Thanks for making me feel bad
The other rogue in my guild was defeated so i feel that!
Parse up
RUH ROH
My heroic parses are dog water right now lol
Parse better bro
my hc parses look great
Shit rogue
Looks at my parsesโฆdecides to let the trash panda play my toon
that lil week 1 sub parse in there
Private log hc 
all of our guild logs are set to private
Itโs stealthi they might
REVEL IN MY MIDOCRITY
Should parse well tomorrow
Suuuuuure
But heroic dont matter anyway
Yeah it does
does it? wut
Ye it matters
heroic parses matter cuz how else am i gonna stroke my ego
hc parses are just speed kills no?
Heroic parse is a joke what
To you it does lmao
if you get dopamine sure, but idk no one i talk to cares about anything other than mythic
imma fix that for you. "all parses are a joke" there you go
Imma play a fire mage in mythic
Thaanks, My Caustic Spatter is waaay to low then.. Cheers
So I can parse high
Who let em cook 
nah nah bros, normal parse is where the true talent lies
im losing the will to continue
lfr parses
it just won't drop
is the real shit
i don't need to test it, I know it's shit xd
also for some reason my guild hasent logged any heroic runs we have done since week 1 of HC
we got those
LMAO
issue is logs make people play suboptimally

u logged normal??
if people play to parse they will greed / play mechanics like clowns
Our kill times are botched anyway
I live log everything
if it doesent say 100 at the top, are you even trying?
Guess not 
This tier I've given no fucks about parses tbh
After Swift and Fyraak i just want bosses dead
to just move on with my life
Swift really killed my mental
I got bad news for you dieslow
actually maybe for you the aura will just hard carry
Just say mental Illinois buddy
and then it happens when it happens
Whats the range on Indiscriminate Carnage? It doesnt seem to work all the time when enemies are right beside each other
Yeah and so am I bud
8y from target iirc
by the time we get to Brood it should be much easier
I dont see any of these fights being as hard as Swift was imo
hmmm ok
Thatโs why it kinda sucks on rashanan

Queen looks v easy
this raid is horrible compared to older raids
Queen looks pretty wild but it'll calm down by the time we get to her
last 3 are pretty close to what tindral was
(after the first set of nerfs to him)
i loved nighthold
Ovinax + yeah
court might farm lower wr guilds
So last 4
its just top10 make it look "easy"
First 3 fights were pretty easy tho
First 4 are easy
kyveza hopefully gets nerfed again in the next 8h
You going princess, princess?
ky veza is such a cool fight tho
Going out of town this week so i'll miss first 2 boss reclears and third boss kill ๐ฆ
yeah so cool to play 1 tank and limited amount of melee and you get executed on 10%
do we have a list what funnel back via singular focus and what doesnt?
well obviously it was not intended to 1 tank the fight 
iirc it was buffed from 3 to 5% because some damage sources got blacklisted?
i just like the rift succs
i should call her...
damn quake was typing that one
Nah I was actually banging ur pops for that one
Does anyone know how close arterial and tiny toxic blade is?
Without simming no lol
my Ansurek average 
not getting pulled off is hard 
yup i just got the heroic neck,its kinda waste not to socket it since odds are i wont raid at all this tier
also most of my keys ended up in complete tragedy
most tanks just randomly pull anything,overcap and die or kill the group
today was total facepalm ngl
how in the fuck do you only have a 42 parse on ovinax?
i am so confused
If your guild does a lot of aoe, you deal less aoe damage
all i see is 8 dead bosses 
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
@normal mist i miss already being a human ๐ฆ
a reminder t2 remake will come out soon
you'll miss even more
race changing for dps will never be something i'll do. Looking good is forever, numbers are irrelevant
I fucking love this bro
My brother in Christ, you and me both
Parses are fleeting, mogs are forever
i jsut wanted a change idk,but ye,i whore'd for some dps as well
whorezilla

My girlfriend plays Dev and bombardment damage counting as mine pisses her off to no end.
if you changed to Mgnome, you saw nothing but numbers ๐
To what did u change though?
I wanted to ask if anyone had any tips on two things in particular:
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How to easily tell what target has deathstalker when there are a giant grouping of mobs and I am trying to efficiently spread dots, how can I easily swap to the one that currently has it or be aware enough to see?
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How to not let auto attacks break my deathstalker application. The worst case scenario of this is in City of Threads first boss. I know I can carry over from a previous pull, but what about after a wipe? Sometimes I'll miss it the first time around (whether I accidentally garrote first instead of ambush), or I will vanish mid combat, but an auto attack will seem to land first and I am screwed.
Any tips would be appreciated
False!!! i like the ponytails man ๐ฆ
(and the xtra agility that comes with them)

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good plater setup
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shouldnt happen, can add a stop attack line to your vanish macro tho
but again, shouldnt happen either way
You could use a player profile that changes the color of the name plate or adds a fancy border to the nameplate that has your mark on it. Iirc, one of the plater profiles thatโs spread around in here does something similar with your main cdโs
Sick
is that the head thats datamined?
I had to add about a thousand debuffs to my plater blacklist to stop them from being 2 rows thick
My cow mogs are the best
No
Ill look into fixing or editing my plater for that if that will fix one. Can you elaborate on 2? Am I messing it up somewhere or do I need to sheath first?
good idea on editing it this way, Ill look into trying to fix that
What head is this?
its not in the trading post of next month or is it?
not yet afaik
FOR THE OGs
I wanna drop my sick male dwarf for a stacked human. Screw Stoneform.
you can use whispyrs in the !wa command, its really good.
no the 2nd naturally shouldnt happen, you usually dont automatically auto attack unless you rightclick your target or smth
!pooling
Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom
- For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
my rogue like the last 6 years ;D
those daggers arent part of the OG setup
the duskblade model is

there is no theme
duskblade naturally fits too well
Just like me fr
Nightblade tho
if they do
nah you cute af
they spent a good chunk of gold
False bestie
bcs they are still super expensive
Anyone know of an addon that lets me filter debuffs n shit on enemy nameplates but keeping the blizzard ui?
Plater is cancer
oh really? how much are they?
i dont even know how much I paid back then
but it was quite something
they now have different ilvls so its hard to track but, the cheapest ive found is 175k
I think thats less than I played back then
hello, is there a way to change platers deathmark to vendetta icon?
Yo. Do you guys spread your bleeds on more than 5-6 targets in huge packs? ๐
thanks for pointing me in the right direction, im unsure what i am doing to cause it but i will try to figure it out. sitting at a striking dummy i see that isnt AA, so not sure what I am clicking. but good to know its me hitting a click or button somewhere
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