assassination

[dawn heath]

im a dh main

i cant read

google is not an option

[balmy condor]

yeah ofc

[undone pollen]

this is what im thinking after i was done being dumb

[balmy condor]

if you don't have a 639

why not

[rotund oak]

yup thats what i thought

ty babe

[balmy condor]

no one's forcing you to go ascension on your dagger

you are the master of your own fate

[undone pollen]

recraft uses the same spark previously used though right?

[balmy condor]

yes

[undone pollen]

so new crafts just no embellishment i guess then

[balmy condor]

why not just recraft the embellishment off

[undone pollen]

well isnt depths the same dps basically as a dawnthread

[balmy condor]

ascension

but yes

[undone pollen]

er yea

[balmy condor]

roughly the same

[waxen oyster]

one has ramp

one doesnt

i saw a guy with symbiosis on his wep

the other day

[balmy condor]

ascension is also very weird in m+ between pulls

symbiosis isn't the worst thing either

[spark juniper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

it's like not really worth crafting over the other options but if you're a hipster sure fuck it

[waxen oyster]

I think he mained sub but it should be

[balmy condor]

not like any embellishment is really good

[waxen oyster]

more consistent flat vers?

Than double dusk

be a hipster and play vivacity on your wep

jk cant be doubled

[balmy condor]

embellishments are like would you like this 1% bonus with a condition that averages out better or this 0.8% bonus that just does damage idk or this 0.8% thing with a different condition

and people are losing their marbles that they're not playing the most giga bis

[waxen oyster]

People lose their marbles over race sims

so not surprised

[sinful elk]

Crafted my 619 belt, forgot I had 2 embellishments (606 bracer, 619 weapon)

[balmy condor]

yeh

[balmy condor]

delete rogue restart

[undone pollen]

yea in the end im simming 1.034m i think, not sure what like 625

[sinful elk]

So recrafted bracer 619 no embellishments

[undone pollen]

625s are simming but

[waxen oyster]

my bracers are 610 pvp

[balmy condor]

honestly though what's zerocool doing

int dagger is kinda brick

[waxen oyster]

socket so likely wont replace for awhile

[balmy condor]

is he making a new rogue

[waxen oyster]

just get 2 of bloodbound

[balmy condor]

now that he doesn't need to show up for raid times

[sinful elk]

@balmy condor appreciate the work you put in, it's been wildly fun getting up to speed with retail rogue from the slow pace of classic !

[waxen oyster]

I feel like the gilded crests are the big loss

not the spark

[agile willow]

How?

[blazing pumice]

word is you can recraft

and it counts as 2 weaps

[waxen oyster]

I am under nda

[pliant coral]

can you dodge/evasion throw flesh in necrotic wake

[agile willow]

Gotcha, deleted

[fleet pagoda]

I think so

[pliant coral]

😮 imma try that next time

i got absolutely REKT by it even using feint w/ the talent and whatnot lol

[fleet pagoda]

evasion is a trap on fixates in NW though, Severed Flesh can't be immuned with it and it whallops

[waxen oyster]

you cant cloak the ice on miniboss before second boss in nw

because reasons

[fleet pagoda]

i discovered you also can't cloak the frontal on the first boss in brh

it was a joint investigation conducted with an arms warrior who was maximizing the space his circles were occupying

[waxen oyster]

lmfao

i call all my dumb cheat procs

[burnt yacht]

at what point is too much haste as a secondary stat over mast/crit?

[waxen oyster]

investigations

[fleet pagoda]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[burnt yacht]

thank you

[rotund oak]

hi

[zinc frost]

“Just wanted to test if cloak worked”

[vale lantern]

Would y’all rather upgrade 1 belt to 637 with 90 crest (my second created dagger is already 637) or 3 main set/trinkets to 626 for the same amount of crest i can’t decide like one. I get higher crafted item would be nice to have but also it’s just belt slot im undecided

[torn dome]

Belt

[rotund oak]

whatever the sims say but prolly waist,coz its something u wont be changing soon

626 ilvl can just change from a vault

[balmy condor]

Myth track is always a safe choice yeah

[vale lantern]

Yeah that’s fair I didn’t think about that I could also craft a third piece right at 636 instead as well I havnt used my third spark yet

[balmy condor]

636 max but that’s 90 crests

[vale lantern]

Problem is my only things below 619 are wrist back and trinket

Err yeah 636 not 637

[rotund oak]

those are the ones u should prio on ur vault then

[vale lantern]

I guess we wait for Tuesday then see what happens with vault currently my sim says I only have 2 upgrades left in m+ at hero track and they are just upgrade of ring and trinket

[rotund oak]

personally im waiting for my vault to see if there is a wpn there,if there is one im going for a ring craft

other than that idk,maybe a back craft

everything else is kinda settled

[coral jasper]

Dont we want back and ring from raid?

[rotund oak]

yeah i wont rly raid this tier

but normally ye

[coral jasper]

Oh, its fine then

[vale lantern]

The ring from raid it’s prob unlikely for me the way we’ve been handing out loot in my guild

[coral jasper]

Pug itt

[vale lantern]

It’ll prob go to our paladin or dh 🤷🏻‍♀️

[coral jasper]

Im puging from day 1

[rotund oak]

last time there was a loot distribution like that,i was ganking my guildies on my horde rogue

[sudden brook]

how am I playing a build like this? I'm making sure to spam envenoms while being under 150 energy, and then what am I doing with vanish with MA? @spice spire @balmy condor

[vale lantern]

My guild ones are afraid to turn on war mode 😦 but it’s like iv gotten 2 upgrades and were still giving loot to the 619 dh whose gotten 8 pieces and im out dpsing and parsing when I was 612 ilvl doesn’t make sense to me

[coral jasper]

With all due respect to se guilds

Guilds are trash sometimes

[balmy condor]

You vanish for imp gar and ignore ma

[rotund oak]

u know what kind of ppl u are dealing with 😉

fear speaks alone

[sudden brook]

U dont play around MA at all

Its just bonus crit on vanish basically

[rotund oak]

ma is basicly irrelevant

could replace with something else

[vale lantern]

True maybe next tier

[rotund oak]

also idk,i dont like this build,the imp gar one

whats the purpose

[near vale]

am i stupid how do i get raidbots to use skardyns it just uses mads on pull and doesnt touch skardyns for like 5 min ive tried it in both slots

[sudden brook]

also I'm aware its correct but it just sounds wrong

the whole stay under 150 outside of cooldowns when ur going sanguine blades

[balmy condor]

Yes

[fleet pagoda]

envenom does so much damage right now is the justification for it i think

[balmy condor]

Yes

Deathstalker is a funny thing

And bleeds suck

:3

[sudden brook]

then why even go the talent at all

[vale lantern]

Buff bleeds nerf caustic

[sudden brook]

is a lil extra damage in CDS that op

[balmy condor]

No, but it’s better than any alternative

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

That’s kinda why we’re dropping imp gar/sang/shrouded in some builds

Cause it’s just all shit

Like Ma, sang, imp poison, twist the knife

They’re all useless bags of shit in single target

But depending on the setup, some are more or less useless

Imp gar/shrouded makes the bleed damage in cooldowns just high enough to make sanguine also good enough

[rotund oak]

Is there a target threshold that scent becomes relevant in raid?

like 2+

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor what talents should i drop for 2nd vanish for the t2 Zekvir fight, cba with branns shity ai that never dispells lol

ER and...?

[balmy condor]

If you’re playing sang, you send

If you aren’t, you would hold

[sudden brook]

that pisses me off

[balmy condor]

Yah well

Make bleeds better

Blizzard spent all of 10.2 reworking energy and aoe and making us viable in m+ but then put all the damage into kingsbane instead

And then 11.0 rolls around and kingsbane gets nerfed and we go yippie bleed damage

[royal lantern]

nope envenom

[balmy condor]

But the hero talents just replaced the kingsbane damage with more envenom damage

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

So bleeds still suck

[runic hinge]

Tails damage

[sudden brook]

dude DN Does mega giga damage tho

4m envenoms

[fleet pagoda]

[stark kraken]

big envenom, big happy

[balmy condor]

Yeh lowkey pisses me off

We went from cosplaying outlaw rogues with caustic spatter

[royal lantern]

tbh, im in camp "i would play sub if i want that"

so not really a fan of it

[balmy condor]

To cosplaying outlaw rogues with spatter and also cosplaying sub rogues with big instant damage finisher

Like just make bleeds good man what the fuck blizzard

[twilit bluff]

Do you think its worth to get a amber gem for the increased crit thing gem?

[runic hinge]

They made ct good.

[fleet pagoda]

doesn't sub's rupture do damage?

[sudden brook]

ct is also active bleeds not a snapshot right

[runic hinge]

Snapshots when it hits

[sudden brook]

Oh really

[rotund oak]

u need 1 of each diff colour gems for max profit from blasphemite ye

[runic hinge]

So if it hits 5 it’s max damage even if 3 die

[sudden brook]

Wow

[royal lantern]

Poopstalker buffing envenom dmg is allright, the problem is that envenom is allready giga dominant in dmg, so poopstalker sends it into Overdrive

[balmy condor]

“How do we fix assa aoe?”
Idk give them blade flurry
“Okay what about hero talents”
Idk give them sectec

POGGING GOOD SPEC IDENTITY WRAP IT UP CALL IT AN EXPANSION WOOOOO BABY

[twilit bluff]

even though its stamina on it still worth it?

[sudden brook]

No

Do not use amber gems

[rotund oak]

we normally aim for mastery and crit,even in hybrid gems

if u cant find anything else sure why not

[twilit bluff]

i mean ill sim it but just wanted to see if anyone else have done it

[balmy condor]

Blasphemies are barely worth it with gems that do damage

Like on some peoples characters it’s not even an upgrade

[vale lantern]

When is our assassin rework again part 2

[balmy condor]

The 0.15% is awful

[rotund oak]

the base stat..

[royal lantern]

give sub love First

[spice spire]

Give outlaw love first

[royal lantern]

sub is down bad for ages now

[balmy condor]

Idk if you noticed but agi isn’t like THAT much better than any given secondary

They’re very close

[royal lantern]

@spice spire give the sink demon love first, we have pics again

[rotund oak]

yeah man,maybe im just lower ilvl thats why agil wins still

[balmy condor]

We just say agi >>>>>>>>> secondary so all the fucking idiots actually take ilvl upgrades instead of drooling every time crit mast drops

[rotund oak]

yup yup

i just sim everything for now

thats all

i see ilvl i equip

[fleet pagoda]

i drool regardless

[spice spire]

I saw

[icy girder]

Crit/mast Coomers

[balmy condor]

People equipping crit/mast blindly over ilvl and ignoring vers because “worst stat” and then going “guys is rogue squishy???”

[lavish brook]

Is there a way to macro tricks of the trade to my tank while targeting a mob?

[icy girder]

Feint is a thing

[balmy condor]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[icy girder]

Imagine if trickster still had to use feint as a offensive cd

[rotund oak]

THE thing

its mayo for sandwich

[lavish brook]

Thanks!

[balmy condor]

Ngl, with it being off gcd I think sub burst would go bananas if it were lmao

[royal lantern]

tbf, im just doing ilvl and the universe decided that this means 2% vers rn

[magic gale]

!shiv

[vale lantern]

I ignored vers because me taking damage is a healer mechanic

[balmy condor]

T R U E

[vale lantern]

Also the sims told me too

[dawn heath]

what would u guys do in my scenario i see everyone crafting a dagger in 636 even though they already have a 639

[echo tartan]

hi cuties

[dawn heath]

all top rogues in rio

do i ditch the daggers since my main focus will be to play m+ and not to raid

and play 2x dawn?

[runic hinge]

Probably already made a 636 with crests the first week and vaulted/got a 639 from raid

[dawn heath]

yeh probably

but still they're all commiting to ascendence dagger

but i assume thats cause they raid mythic

also

[runic hinge]

You can make a crafted dagger without embellish and then double dawnthread

Yeah probably

[icy girder]

I have done the 636 dagger and double dawn

But I’m not a giga chad

[dawn heath]

what should i go for first?

i was thinking of crafting boots

in 636

[icy girder]

Well wep is biggest dmg increase

[dawn heath]

well its a offhand

[icy girder]

Offhand no

Mainland is the dmg

[dawn heath]

im saying i have 639 dagger

so it would be a offhand dagger

[icy girder]

The go wrist/belt

Wait

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[icy girder]

There u go

Read that

[dawn heath]

why not boots?

i have socketed hero track belt

but my boots kinda stink

[icy girder]

Cuz we can get crit mast boots

Farm then

U have alot of gear to farm anyways

The guide is made for endgame anyways meaning mythic gear so realistically if ur not playing at that lvl u can do what u want

[dim tapir]

Hey guys how do you keep up garrote on mob groups after opener? Feels impossible without imp garrote with the 6 sec cd am i missing something?

[coral ibex]

use a weakaura to track garrote cd and mouseover cast it

its more important to have ruptures out tho

[vale lantern]

How does the smart cast tricks macro work does it just always do the top most tank?

[orchid pewter]

you dont want to craft big stat slots, because crafted gear is lower ilvl compared to myth track, thats why you craft shit like wrists or cloak

or belt

wrists usually being the go to

[normal mist]

Actually it can be boots

It all depends on the other slots you already have

[chilly mist]

is oil of deep toxins any good? just realized it exists

[normal mist]

This is the right answer for people who can definitely get big pieces on myth track

[orchid pewter]

yea, ofc

[cinder grove]

Am I crazy or Caustic Splatter is bugged ? As in it doesn't activate at all anymore ?

[orchid pewter]

you are crazy

[normal mist]

Which is a low % of the playerbase, that's why crafting boots or belt is not a problem

[normal mist]

Clip it

[balmy condor]

If “is X bugged”
-> logs

Otherwise you’re crazy

No logs no believe

[cinder grove]

I did, limited with file size though

Oh

Forget it

i'm stupid

My WA reminder for poison wasnt working, so I didn't have them on....

[balmy condor]

[jaunty dew]

!bug

[normal mist]

Can't edit a command

[jaunty dew]

!bug

still doesnt work

xD

spreadsheet?

[normal mist]

weird

!fuu

yeah monroes sleeping

[jaunty dew]

sleep well sweet prince

[woven torrent]

i only see ppl with 4 set is there something wrong with "5" set.. meaning wearing all the set pieces

[jaunty dew]

Just min maxing stats

[normal mist]

there is no problem at all

[jaunty dew]

Once you get the 4p you can play around with the 5th to get the stats you sorta want more of

[normal mist]

but if you already have 4, rather give the 5th piece to another player if you play in a guild

[jaunty dew]

That too

[woven torrent]

i mean i already have 4 piece and im trying to look for the bis pieces and was wondering if full set is actually bis

[normal mist]

there is no BiS pieces (other than trinkets)

you wan't to SIM your gear when you get new pieces

[woven torrent]

i see ty

[dry nova]

is offhand upgrade important?

[chilly mist]

likely not

sim

[woven torrent]

is there a mastery cap?

[chilly mist]

Not really, its significantly more desired in aoe though

Once you get most of the "bis" items going, single target stats are very very similar in value

[woven torrent]

if i for example have 60% mastery the dmg increase i still linear ?

[chilly mist]

my "bis" chest piece currently is just a straight downgrade with my current setup

[chilly mist]

Not sure, can only say that I pretty much have full mastery on every piece and more mastery is still dmg increase in aoe scenarios for me

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simulate-gif-8199108223823847654

[icy girder]

Isn’t that what I said lad?

I said do whatever u want if you are not playing at mythic gear lvl

[dawn heath]

how does every rogue on rio have ritual knife isn't there like 40 items in the delve loot pool?

and dont u need to get it from a map (610 base) for it to be good?

[dim yacht]

what kind of dps are you guys seeing in higher keys overall

[quartz cloak]

@dawn heath From map or vault is preferred

[dim yacht]

idk if im doing something wrong or what

[quartz cloak]

I got it 2 times for example

[dawn heath]

kinda depends on key

wtf

so i guess i should do 8 delves then

i dont have any keys though

[dim yacht]

just feels like i tend to be quite a bit behind most of the time

[quartz cloak]

Y you get hc Track from 8 delves vault

[dim yacht]

or maybe its just that im like...the only high key sin rogue playing fatebound

[quartz cloak]

Y play deathstalker

[dim yacht]

i hate deathstalker so much

just feels clunky as fuck to me

[sterile violet]

then u will never be nummber 1

this is the issue

fatbound sucks

i dont even use it on raids

[uncut knot]

Hey guys, i've seen a lot of assa running mastery in main stat over crit, (like 16K mastery for 8-9K crit, i currently have the exact opposit (16K crit and 9 mastery, is it still supposed to be even overall ? (Crit = mastery) ?

[dim yacht]

depends what you doing

[fiery ore]

fatebound is griefing

[dim yacht]

i pref mastery for m+

[uncut knot]

Im only running MM+

No raids at all

[dim yacht]

you think?

[sterile violet]

u should be owning them both

[dim yacht]

so bare in mind im just a noob who hasnt really simmed, but mastery is feeling a lot better for me in m+ for the burst

[sterile violet]

number 1 easy the shamman chain lightning cant even keep up wiith ur speed as a rogue

switch to death

[fiery ore]

hard yes

[dawn heath]

so is the ritual knife our s1 bis trinket for m+ or is it just temporary cause we cant get our hands on myth track something else?

[dim yacht]

do you think cold blood deathstalker build is gonna be better than fatebound? i cant fucking stand echoing reprimand

at all

[quartz cloak]

I can see darkest night envenoms with cold blood ain’t too bad

[dim yacht]

i think ill be a lot more interested with .5 changes

[fiery ore]

probably but er will give best performance

[quartz cloak]

Y ER is best, but if he doesn’t want to play it I still think deathstalker is better than fatebound

[normal mist]

why cold blood tho

[dim yacht]

yeah already 100% crit for darkest night lol

so thats a little redundant

[quartz cloak]

Oh true

[normal mist]

._.

[dim yacht]

i just wish deathstalker wasnt so clunky

[quartz cloak]

Well then just play double vanish lol

[dim yacht]

lol i did that at first

[quartz cloak]

How is deathstalker clunky?

[normal mist]

Yeah just play the bad talents

[dim yacht]

but i am absolutely 100% convinced that deathstalker w/ double vanish is way way worse than fatebound cb

[normal mist]

double vanish

[dim yacht]

double vanish playstyle was nice, but yeah the damage is just

[quartz cloak]

Double vanish is useless, you get one more vanish during a dungeon than without it

[dim yacht]

i feel it adds up to more than one in practice, but it def isnt a good talent

no disagreeing with that

[quartz cloak]

If 2 rogues press vanish on CD during a 20 min dungeon, and one is using vanish talent, he get 11 while the other get 10

[dim yacht]

i understand that, i said in practice because there are times when it just doesnt make sense to vanish

like if a pack is literally about to die, and your vanish just comes up, its not worth pressing it

thats why i say in practice. im not saying its a good talent lol

its not

[normal mist]

In practise, in a 30 min run you can get like MAYBE 1-3 extra vanishes

[quartz cloak]

Sure, but both wouldn’t press it then. And usually you would press it on deathmark

[dim yacht]

diff there is that the one with 2 charges is still getting his cd back

the other isnt

[quartz cloak]

However, I still don’t get how playing deathstalker is clunky for you

[normal mist]

having to focus on a target, then losing in in the middle of big packs

i can see how

[dim yacht]

and caustic splatter doesnt work for bleeds, so i dont really see how deathmark with vanish is that important

not a fan yeah, and i just cant get used to the ambush opener, even if its just once (sometimes twice) in a run

it feels weird to me to 5 cp envenom, but 7 cp after every 3 finishers

most of the time i can deathmark on pull with stealthed garrotes to begin with

[normal mist]

ER helps with that

[dim yacht]

and use the vanish for empowered garrotes later into a pack or to silence

[quartz cloak]

You know all the answers so what are you asking for? Prob there is no rogue performing better than you on fatebound currently cause everyone is adapting to ER and deathstalker 👀

[dim yacht]

mmm i could see that

not at all, thats why i came here to see what other peoples thoughts were

i never said double vanish is good, its not

i know its trash and i dont use it

[quartz cloak]

Play ER and deathstalker is fun

[dim yacht]

maybe i just need to give it another try

i will enjoy it a lot more with .5 changes i think

[normal mist]

ER blue cps count towards mark and DN

keep that in mind

[dim yacht]

yeah will keep it all mind, ty for thoughts

appreciate

[spiral coyote]

Did anyone find any good WAs or trackers for number of Garrotes and Ruptures on targets? 🙂

[mint valve]

!fuu

[sterile violet]

jeez people really love dropping F bombs randomly huh

[hybrid wedge]

Oh my god this guy is everywhere

[sterile violet]

jeeez

[inner mica]

anyone got a makro for opener with deathmark, kingsbane, thistle tea and so on?

[sterile violet]

u stalking me fr

[hybrid wedge]

I ain’t doing nothing, u just everywhere

I look left u there

[chilly mist]

dont think u ever wanna macro tea into anyway

anything*

[hybrid wedge]

I look right u there

[sterile violet]

🥷

sin main

[royal lantern]

im under your bed :3

[sterile violet]

u still playing lost ark ?

[hybrid wedge]

Oh hell na

That game wanted ur life

[sterile violet]

why thaemine too much ? xd

[hybrid wedge]

Nah but not enjoyable

That game wanted ur 24/7 attention

[sterile violet]

i'll carry u dw

[hybrid wedge]

Carry deez

[sterile violet]

lmaaaaaaaaaaao

come right now

lets go do thaemine

[hybrid wedge]

Deleted it long time ago

[sterile violet]

i'll 1 shot him with my breaker / reaper

i mean same lowkey miss it tho

i miss the pressure

[hybrid wedge]

But why

It’s a massive headache

[sterile violet]

i like 700000 mechs 30000 wipe mechs every 2 sec

[hybrid wedge]

Lost ark ≠ fun

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[hybrid wedge]

Trueeeee and then it’s already night and I didn’t accomplish anything

That’s the type of grind I love

[sterile violet]

1 fail kick

[pliant terrace]

still no trinket 🙂

[smoky sonnet]

Vicious Venoms talent – how good is it really?

[hybrid wedge]

[sterile violet]

might go back i dropped alot of money ...

[hybrid wedge]

No way, on what?

[sterile violet]

WYM

[hybrid wedge]

U ain’t f2p?!

[sterile violet]

my rooster alone costed me thousands

[hybrid wedge]

Whales these days…

[sterile violet]

hahahaahah

[hybrid wedge]

[sterile violet]

these hones aint for free

[normal mist]

in ST its really good

[hybrid wedge]

Just to get gatekept

It’s like paying to get in prison

But willingly

[sterile violet]

not mee tho i dont get gatekept unless its a LOS ting

and i have full los so ...

[royal lantern]

34runs and nothing

stay strong brother, we suffer togheter

[hybrid wedge]

U don’t have full LOS?

[sterile violet]

yes i do

[hybrid wedge]

I see then u good

[smoky sonnet]

Ty for the answer.
On a cleave fight, like Broodtwister would it be ok choice to swap these two talents with Thrown Presicion and Crimson Tempest, you think?

[sterile violet]

stop stalking me tho jeez

[hybrid wedge]

I ain’t stalking u, u just spawn wherever I look at

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-looking-up-cat-look-up-kitten-look-up-gif-13486805289139588631

[normal mist]

So far all i did was replacing into caustic spatter and im good

[sterile violet]

😂

[hybrid wedge]

It’s like u drive to one server after another with that car of urs on ur pic

[smoky sonnet]

That's what I've been doing so far too, but want to experiment a bit

[hybrid wedge]

That why u on the wheel

Constantly moving

[pliant terrace]

Probably not. Caustic Spatter is usually enough to fill your cleave niche in raid. You sacrifice too much ST for the bleed talents.

[sterile violet]

lmaaao u play rogue now ?

[tight stone]

Hey, quick question! How do you guys sim for M+?

[sterile violet]

why u here

[hybrid wedge]

Yeah started yesterday

[smoky sonnet]

Alright, thanks for answering @pliant terrace

[hybrid wedge]

Best class

[pliant terrace]

np

[sterile violet]

i'll coach u

np

[normal mist]

If your team doesnt have enough AoE you could spec out of VV i guess and get more AoE

[normal mist]

Dungeonslice

[hybrid wedge]

Thanks

[tight stone]

Ty mate 🙂

[sterile violet]

come to my twitch

[hybrid wedge]

Im trying to learn assassin for mythic +

[sterile violet]

i'll go live for u

[normal mist]

you 2 get a room

[sterile violet]

show you the roation

[normal mist]

jesus

[sterile violet]

she stalking me man ...

[normal mist]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[normal mist]

Check wowhead guide

[sterile violet]

i know she doesnt like rogue

[indigo totem]

Maybe take the build that gets the kill and go from there once it's on farm?

[sterile violet]

🤦‍♂️

[hybrid wedge]

Thanks! I was looking for it

[hybrid wedge]

Lmao

[sterile violet]

😂 i knew it

[normal mist]

Pretty much everything is in the guide, anything else that you might not understand, let us know

[hybrid wedge]

Alright thanks a lot! Ima look into it now

[hybrid wedge]

[hybrid wedge]

Go live

[balmy condor]

on mythic I think CT is basically an instant take, the single target is incredibly close but you get a ton of extra spider damage that your raid otherwise wouldn't

[sterile violet]

ayt ayt come

[balmy condor]

it lets everyone else go more single target if they're not specifically the fury/frost people blowing up parasites

[hybrid wedge]

What’s the name?

[languid frigate]

Are there any work arounds for the bubbling wax bug yet?

[balmy condor]

but I think the community ain't ready for that convo cause caustic is so damn strong everyone just goes hurr durr caustic :3

depends which bug

[sterile violet]

same one from back then

[languid frigate]

The not being able to use them bug lol

[balmy condor]

that's not a bug lol

at this point that's just a feature

seems they were just intended as an open world leveling thing

so if you have decent daggers you're just out of luck

[hybrid wedge]

Ahhh alr got u

[sterile violet]

oh wait i changed it type Vndcta

Vndicta

[hybrid wedge]

Thanks! Ima tune in

[chilly mist]

Did the wax get changed or were we never able to apply them to higher ilvl stuff?

[balmy condor]

changed

[chilly mist]

and we just realized it when crafting and hc/mythic weps

ah

i demand 10g per wax for the waste of time blizzard

[languid frigate]

Do we have any official confirmation yet? I can't seem to find a tooltip about the ilvl capping or patch notes.

[echo tartan]

after 2 hourd and 10 minuted im lvl 40 on my rogue yall thinking im making it to 70 in under 3?

[balmy condor]

no, but adding an ilvl cap is not something that just randomly bugs

[strange python]

What's the addon for copying your gear to sim?

[balmy condor]

simulationcraft

!simguide

[prisma monolith]

Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

[strange python]

Ta

[languid frigate]

Ah that's a shame, the alternatives are all quite expensive

[balmy condor]

are they?

[cunning basin]

Buzzing runes are pretty cheap

:3

[balmy condor]

last I checked the oils were like 17g a piece

[cunning basin]

Rip wax tho, was cool that we had something unique for like a week

[balmy condor]

yeh okay 50g a piece

[languid frigate]

Ah do you recommend those over the whetstones?

[cunning basin]

That third one there though

[balmy condor]

fuck no

but if you don't got money using something is better than using nothing

[cunning basin]

750 kinda wildin ngl why tf everything so expensive. Who did it

[balmy condor]

why would you buy rank 3 of those

[cunning basin]

I'm gonna pay for the expensive rocks but I'm gonna complain the whole time

That's a good q

[balmy condor]

like either you spend money and get whetstones

or you cheap out and get cheap stuff

pick a lane lmao

[cunning basin]

I'm curious to know if there are actually people paying that much or if someone is just being really, really hopeful with that pricing lmao

[balmy condor]

I'm sure someone is buying them

[short flint]

!macros

[cunning basin]

That poor soul

[languid frigate]

Which of the oils do we want to be running, if we want to be cheap lol

[strange python]

go outside man

[balmy condor]

the cheap ones

no like actually

you're trying to be cheap

what does it matter if it's 0.6% or 0.5%

just buy the cheap ones

[cunning basin]

Whatever the cheapest one is, or use dragon flight runes, that's what a bunch of my guildies are doing

[languid frigate]

Do the oils work for both MH and OF?

[balmy condor]

ofc

[cunning basin]

Like they're all pretty minor so 🤷 like he said something is better than nothing

[strange maple]

if ur oh is under 610 ilvl u can still use bubbling wax

[torn dome]

Is BW > algari

[balmy condor]

if ur oh is under 610 ilvl you probably don't do content where you're gonna want to spend money on weapon oils either to be fair

[balmy condor]

whetstones > mana oil > deep toxins

[dim yacht]

not worth using an amber for the 0.15% crit effect right?

[balmy condor]

not even remotely

[torn dome]

Gg

[dim yacht]

figured

[balmy condor]

it's barely worth using the 0.15% crit gem at all

like fully optimized it's within margin of error for a bunch of people

[cunning basin]

Better whip out them wallets

[dim yacht]

really? figured its worth for the main stat at least

[torn dome]

XD

[balmy condor]

nah

the main stat is whatever

[neon thunder]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[cerulean monolith]

Anyone swap from sub to sin and have thoughts? I'm considering sin but hearing mixed reviews about the spec overal.

[arctic tusk]

has anyone farmed Mythic bop's

[cunning basin]

Sub has bigger burst, good in raid with uptime, sin more chill, less stressful in keys imo

[arctic tusk]

curious how long it took before getting one piece

[cunning basin]

Idk both are fun, neither are super APM intensive but sub requires a little more thought than sin if you're new to both

Rogue kinda solidly middling, choose your play style kinda class rn

[cerulean monolith]

Came back to the game after only doing mythics in early DF. Love sub but it's feeling stressful to manage the amount of CDs. I'm not pushing crazy high keys or mythic raiding so I was wondering if Sin is more chil for a mid tier player like myself.

Like my eyes are starting to hurt (im gettin old) lol

[short flint]

!macro

[cerulean monolith]

And the trade off for putting so much thought into sub doesnt seem to pay off as much

[short flint]

is there a command for macro list? that tricks one is useful wonder if there are more

[cunning basin]

Sin is definitely more chill, especially in keys imo since CD placement is pretty massive for sub in keys but sin you can get by just kinda sending shit whenever

Or at least I have idk I'm stupid so I just press buttons

[languid frigate]

Yeah it looks like the dragonflight runes still work on our daggers. And 310 crit strike still. Is there any reason not to? They seem to be better than Algari mana oil without the haste?

[balmy condor]

no

we don't have macros on assa

it's just generic potion+racial+deathmark

and tricks if you have the weakaura

[short flint]

cool. thx for reply!

[balmy condor]

and then like mouseovers if you're sweaty

normal stuff

[arctic tusk]

i would imagine mouseovers can get bad fast in giant packs

[analog valley]

i use macro to TOT focus which is the tank

[quartz cloak]

I just copy tanks name into tricks macro

Got a shadowmeld stealth macro since I play NE

Kick focus macro is handy

[timid marsh]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[torn dome]

Good Q

[languid frigate]

Thanks, would be great to know if there is any reason not to. They seem to be a fraction of the cost right now.

[subtle cipher]

Thx god you are not pushing high keys with sub

[torn dome]

Love to know too

[subtle cipher]

Sim it and tell us :3

[smoky sonnet]

Thanks for the solid takes! I am just pugging on HC atm, but it's allways a fun thing to experiment and try to fill in the gaps of the raid. (just killed brood on hc, quite stoked!)

[autumn silo]

does haste matter for assa rogue?

have 2% haste rn

[regal kiln]

Guys im a noob and my mates always flame me for not interrupting but i find it so hard to interupt the right mob especially ina big pack, how do you guys do ?

(im a noob)

[subtle tundra]

you get used to playing

and can do it

[smoky sonnet]

I got nameplates on, and I tab around til I target the right add that is channeling a spell, then I press my interrupt button

[subtle cipher]

Plater may help you out

Finding nameplate that you are comfortable with

[regal kiln]

mmh

interupt in mouseover is good or no ?

[subtle cipher]

I don't like it

[smoky sonnet]

Make sure that it's not a channeling spell with a shield (those can sometimes be stunned/gouged/blinded instead however, unless immune)

[balmy condor]

haste is a good stat but it's not anything good

like you don't want 10%

assa like item level

and if your item level has haste

[regal kiln]

i'll try it thanks

[balmy condor]

that's cool

and if it doesn't

that's cool too

[autumn silo]

alright ty very much

[subtle tundra]

ah so 10% is the cap

[strange maple]

is my haste too high ?

[smoky sonnet]

What are your guyses opinions on ilvl on necks/rings that dont have agi on them? I know we allways are supposed to sim our characters, but as a general rule of thumb

[autumn silo]

bombaclat bro

[subtle cipher]

Wtf

[subtle tundra]

upgrading agility pieces gives little secondary stats
upgrading necks/rings gives a lot of secondary stats

[vale lantern]

I think What he’s saying is you don’t wanna go for a break point just go for the higher ilvl piece and if it has haste on it even better!

[subtle tundra]

a lot of specs want secondary stats a lot more so they want it high ilvl

[subtle tundra]

frfr?? woah i could have never guessed

[keen glade]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[vale lantern]

Sorry sarcasm isn’t expressed well thru messages and if u say something like that others might take your word for it

Especially if they are coming from a spec like outlaw where they do state haste break points in their pins

[icy girder]

Let’s be honest we are all outlaw chads coming to assa for a tier cuz it’s better

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/theoffice-showdown-mexican-stand-off-gif-5640741

the spec channels

^

[smoky sonnet]

I lost a 99 roll for the queen ring to an outlaw rogue with half my dps. Was LFR only, but I'm still crying about it

[vale lantern]

Nah I was an assassin/sub play outlaw gives me a headake

[smoky sonnet]

He also rolled 99, and 3rd guy also rolled 99

[meager crystal]

Hey guys any one got a nice WA to track posions ? i use Zmok WA and it shows me to much

[oak tangle]

what you mean track poisons

why you need to track them

[icy girder]

Yea outlaw hard bro and give ur hand aches it’s ok

[meager crystal]

just make sure you got every thing up

[vale lantern]

Yah the Carpal tunnel is real

[oak tangle]

they'll either be there or they won't, can't see a time when you'd go out of your way to press an ability to get them up

[icy girder]

When blizzard gives a to back we will leave

Acro*

[meager crystal]

and bleeds i mean

sorry

[balmy condor]

I didn't look at the image at all

looks great

keep it up

[vale lantern]

I just use a plater to show the debuffs above mobs head

[icy girder]

I will say I’m deffs getting better logs on assa then I ever did as outlaw

[oak tangle]

i use plater to put a big border on the bars where i ddon't have rupture

[meager crystal]

yea oaky

i will look into it

[keen glade]

how to disable poisons from plater profile?

it keeps tracking amplifying poison

[vale lantern]

In the profile you can select which debuffs you want to track and ignore under debuffs section I believe

[languid frigate]

Okay run some sims. FYI, my gear is not BIS lol. Dungeon slice. 1: No weapon oils. 2: Oil of Deep Toxins. 3: Buzzing Runes. 4: Algari Mana Oil. It's looking like Buzzing runes are coming in second, just behind mana oils. These are all applied to both weapons. There might be better combinations of OF and MH, but that's a lot more work lol.

Hope that helps, so if you're feeling cheap. It's looking like Buzzing Runes might be the go to 🙂

[oak tangle]

what are whetstones

[normal mist]

weapon consumables

[left tendon]

how is our 4set bonus?

[normal mist]

bad

[pallid solstice]

hey guys, how important is restealthing between packs in m+

[normal mist]

good if you do

not bad if you dont

depends on the tank

If the tank moves to the next pack with 1 mob alive at 3%, you complain

[brisk forge]

More inportant is how tank is pulling

[normal mist]

if the tank moves to the next pack with like 3 mobs at 30% and they all have rupture for the scent of blood stacks, is good

[brisk forge]

You need a good tank to do really good dmg

[pallid solstice]

ty guys

for info

[novel star]

if the tank does this i just force restealth anyway

[teal lark]

guys how good is assa rogue compared to sub/out on raid? is the ST dps bad?

[timid bobcat]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[rotund oak]

kinda looks better but there are fights sub is very powerful

sub has stronger burst

[subtle tundra]

rogue on pure ST fight

so yea it dont matter much

sub is much better on hc cause its short fight

outlaw is doing worse on hc cause of the same reason

[strange python]

You don’t know my avg pug groups

[subtle tundra]

i thonk

[teal lark]

I saw high tier raiders playing sub and heard assa is rather weak on ST

[subtle tundra]

well yea

[strange python]

Longer fight than mythic bosses fr

[subtle tundra]

i will never know

pug groups

[novel star]

why does sin have such a

low low

[strange python]

Which spec is being played at high tiers is determined more by fight design

[subtle tundra]

if i have to pug a raid, it means i have to stop paying for subscription

[strange python]

Nuh idk I do it on alts

It’s fun

[subtle tundra]

yea we have different types of fun

[rotund oak]

outlaw=/=raid

[strange python]

How would you know if you never have to do it

[rotund oak]

there is a severe discontinuity man

those things cant go in the same sentence

[strange python]

One day there will be a 5 target patchwerk fight

One day

Just you wait

[rotund oak]

😅

idk man,its the burst profiles that are better for raids

[strange python]

Ye always

[rotund oak]

outlaw is a flatline

[strange python]

It’s what shamans have been fighting for a long time

[teal lark]

I enjoy assa the most but saw sub being a little bit better on raid and thought about dual specing but I guess its bad idea and Ill just stay with assa

[novel star]

and on that day sin will still be better

[strange python]

I don’t think so if there’s no downtime and no amps

Outlaw would even be king rn if there was a patchwerk st fight

But that’s just irrelevant

And never exists

[novel star]

[subtle tundra]

but at the same time, kyveza mythic is pure st and rogue is shit pure st

and it was x2 in one of the teams comps

i believe

and i was told id play kyveza

👎

[strange python]

Rogue isn’t shit pure st I’d say it’s mediocre

Somewhere around there

[novel star]

we are pretty shit based on sims and logs

[strange python]

But ye rogue defensive value on that fight is prob good

[subtle tundra]

it is shit
assa hides it behind spatter
other specs have to sacrifice ST to do aoe in raid, not us

[strange python]

In raw st logs? Sub is somewhere towards the middle no?

We were talking st

[subtle tundra]

literally what i linked earlier

[strange python]

Spatter doesn’t count

[novel star]

all 3 are underperforming no?

[subtle tundra]

.

thats pure st

[strange python]

Idk this is

Week 2

Data is so small

[subtle tundra]

not really

bud

[novel star]

it’s not gonna get any better

[subtle tundra]

even my grandmothers guild killed that boss

[crude sequoia]

sometimes good sometimes bad

[strange python]

Doesn’t change the fact that data is still small compared to what it’s going to be „bud“

[novel star]

go watch liquid kyveza kill and look where exile is with his evil double on use tech

still getting obliterated by other specs licking the keyboard

[subtle tundra]

assa has almost 1k parses on that boss

942

[crude sequoia]

i did heroic princess last night, game crashed on 20%

i loaded back up

still alive

lmfao

[subtle tundra]

for week 2 thats a fucking load of parses

[zinc frost]

Nerf spatter, buff bleeds

[subtle tundra]

nerf spatter and aura buff

[novel star]

uhh

if bleeds includes CT then no

lmao

but other than that yeah

ct and caustic are both broken

[rotund oak]

based

[subtle tundra]

but yea i dont expect assa to get any tuning

too much mid to get touched

[rotund oak]

buff tier set as well

[novel star]

we are stuck as m+ meta and piss in raid

for the whole tier

[royal lantern]

m+ meta?

lol

[subtle tundra]

yea lol

its just the beta hype rn

[royal lantern]

rogue is good in dungeons yeha, but not meta

[novel star]

maybe not meta but dumb good

[subtle tundra]

theres specs that dumpster us

[royal lantern]

like, against the REAL meta classea/specs, you look weak cus they do high dmg everywhere

[subtle tundra]

the meta will always be the aoe AND st monsters

there always is

[royal lantern]

assa just pumps aoe with cds and then falls flat on bosses

[novel star]

yea tru

[subtle tundra]

bet its gonna be fire magus again...

and with a sprinkle of shadow priest

[mystic osprey]

When the ilvl gets up I saw decent st but not nearly as good as other classes

[subtle tundra]

PEE AYYYYYYYYY the fire

[zinc frost]

Any pure ST boss in dungeons feels so bad

[novel star]

[subtle tundra]

everyone gets ST with ilvl not like only rogue does

[mystic osprey]

Play cleave build like a chad 🐐

[royal lantern]

our mage tried fire the heroic clear and just said "yeha, 1-2 more Buffs cus they are crying and its SSSS+ everywhere again"

[novel star]

go cleave build and your st is still fucking garbage

but now your aoe is too

awesome build man

[mystic osprey]

Haha

[novel star]

[zinc frost]

Playing necrolord in SL keys was fun, let’s go back to that

[rotund oak]

cleave build doesnt rly have ST yo

[subtle tundra]

tbh bleed build is kinda the best st in m+ for high-ish keys

[rotund oak]

thats not being chad,more like actively trolling

[subtle tundra]

playing zoldyck with ~3 min fights means your 2nd deathmark is in execute

and its the best st out of the 3 talent builds

if fights are 2 minutes then its dogass

[rotund oak]

for higher keys sure

yeah

[subtle tundra]

but also requires starting the fight with cds

which isnt always true

[rotund oak]

yup

thats why i like hybrid tbh

balanced memes all over the place

[subtle tundra]

i wonder how .5 will change our dmg

[rotund oak]

for the better i hope

[subtle tundra]

probably still dogshit st

cause we will play double vanish

[rotund oak]

ER gone passive

[subtle tundra]

idk

i loved er

[rotund oak]

same

huge fan

[subtle tundra]

made for some satisfying sequences

they removed ER and made tea auto use cause people complained about keybind

but i dont see it

its not like assa has 2 billion keys

[rotund oak]

yeah,they just try to ''hear'' the bloating yapping

so they remove stuff

[subtle tundra]

they should try some actual classes

like druid

i get anxiety on that class

[rotund oak]

only pvp makes me anxious and not thatmuch anymore

[subtle tundra]

my pala doesnt have lay on hands and bop keybound

take that as you will

[novel star]

[carmine moth]

Any ideas about what a good 3rd craft would be?

[novel star]

dagger wrist belt

smile

[subtle tundra]

crafter belt and got mythic belt...

[novel star]

cope

just be less lucky next time

[carmine moth]

I have Ascendance on weap in 636, and bonus embellishment on feet in 619

Dunno if to craft a 2nd 636 weapon

[novel star]

don’t

off hand sucks

[subtle tundra]

you want to get a mythic weapon now

to upgrade to 639

and use that one off hand

[novel star]

craft in some other bad ilvl armor slot

[carmine moth]

Have cleared bloodbound this week with no dagger drop. Not gonna kill Nexus this week, and 2nd weapon simmed more

Why I thought to craft that

[novel star]

but it could drop next week

and then you don’t have a full spark for another week

after that

all rng at da end of da day

[carmine moth]

True, but that is the same with another craft you know

Exactly

[subtle tundra]

but its bad in the longer run

[novel star]

id prolly just hold the spark for now

since ur gonna be crafting something without an embellishment and have replacement risk regardless of what u choose

or send it

up to u

it’s your life goat

[drifting light]

does anybody possibly know why does this mechanic go through cloak?

[novel star]

game sucks

[proper hare]

based

[novel star]

just feint evasion it

[drifting light]

yea i mean, i was convinced that Nature damage is considered magic damage, but apparently this nature damage isnt, so fuck me

[limber lion]

I could have sworn cloak works, but then again it's such a simple mechanic to dodge anyways so never had issues with it

[subtle tundra]

i think he means the targeted ability

[novel star]

ya

retch is the

[subtle tundra]

and you need to use cloak in the last 1 second

[novel star]

random target frontal onetap

[subtle tundra]

for it to work

[limber lion]

ah

well anyways

[drifting light]

wdym, how does that make sense lol

[novel star]

[subtle tundra]

cause spaghetti coding

[limber lion]

never had issues with the boss

[subtle tundra]

its only TRUE immunity

for last 1 sec

first*

[drifting light]

i used 0,9sec before the death

[subtle tundra]

and you can evasion is aswell pretty sure

[novel star]

i think evasion just straight works yea

outside of that it’s feint and cope

[rotund oak]

can confirm evasion works

[subtle tundra]

do you have longer cloak? maybe that fucks with it

[drifting light]

nah

[novel star]

unlucky try 0.8 next time buddy!

[limber lion]

Wait

[novel star]

[limber lion]

What are you talking about

Heaving Retch is the big aoe frontal

[novel star]

yes

[limber lion]

What targeted ability

[novel star]

the frontal that targets a random player

?

[limber lion]

Ah that's what you mean

[subtle tundra]

it is targeted

[limber lion]

lol

[novel star]

like wha

[subtle tundra]

are you ok cev?

[novel star]

[limber lion]

No

[novel star]

you ran nw twice ever in your life

or

[limber lion]

Maybe closer to a hundred

[novel star]

smoking good asf

[subtle tundra]

i did it 3 times this season and i think it really likes targeting healers

[limber lion]

Just never had issues with it ever

[subtle tundra]

jb was getting blaaasted

[limber lion]

Tank it without any defensives up

And never take like any dam

[novel star]

[subtle tundra]

i used to push necrotic wake and it was a straight 1 shot back in SL 🙂

[drifting light]

me too man, me too

only cloak up, my bad

[novel star]

that shit cranks

[subtle tundra]

very possible cev didnt do key high enough 🙂

[subtle tundra]

could also be the boss has affix stacks XD!

fucking

hate that

shit affix

[novel star]

you seen that affix on

[limber lion]

Def did

[novel star]

arakara 2nd boss

pretty cool

how you cant do anything about it

[subtle tundra]

yea impossible to get if it spawns during phase

[novel star]

LOL

[subtle tundra]

gg blizzdong

[novel star]

it’s actually just

untested

man

fuck

it’s so bad

[limber lion]

Also looking at vods

It's targeting healer

every time

[subtle tundra]

yea thats what i was sayin

was very weird

[limber lion]

Let's look at shadowlands vods now

let's see if it's changed

[novel star]

prolly most often but i have had it target me with all 5 up

[subtle tundra]

it did change

[novel star]

like yesterday

maybe hotfix today cooked it?

idk

[subtle tundra]

i remember necrotic wake like the palm of my hand

if thats a saying

i remember having a big fight with my team during NW

[limber lion]

Idk maybe I'm used to evasioning it automatically if it ever happened to me

no clue

[subtle tundra]

cause of the first pull

[limber lion]

In Shadowlands you never used evasion for anything

but in DF it suddenly started to be a good defensive

[novel star]

[limber lion]

Well whatever

Just evasion and go next

[fathom cove]

what exactly does Caustic Spatter trigger from? Its not just Deadly Poison, is it also Amplifying Poison?

[novel star]

gets targeted twice in a row like a boss

[novel star]

all nature damage rogue spells

[limber lion]

It triggers from Mutilate

[novel star]

including hero talent damage

or what do you mean

like applying it?

mutilate

[limber lion]

Deadly Poison or Amp Poison yes

Rupture + Deadly/Amp

Then Mutilate

[novel star]

that bitch just in the tooltip isn’t it